Nov 05, 2020 City Council Meeting - 11/05/2020

WE HAVE ABOUT 40 SOME ITEMS ON CONSENT.

CHAIRMAN COUNCIL COMES THE NEXT ON OUR AGENDA.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

WE HAVE A COUPLE ON ACTIONS.

I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS TO READ, UM, BUT BEFORE I READ THESE COUNCIL MEMBER WRONG, JUAN, DID YOU STILL WANT TO, UM, UH, TAKE ITEM NUMBER TWO AND PUT IT ON ACTION? YES.

I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON TO NUMBER TWO.

ACTION.

SO WE'LL DEFER ANY CONVERSATION AROUND ITEM NUMBER TWO TO ACTION AND, UH, DISCUSS THAT AT THAT TIME.

UH, CONSTANTLY ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS FOR THAT BEFORE I READ THESE COMMENTS.

AND SHE SUPPORTS ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

SO, UM, THIS IS IN REGARD TO, OKAY.

I HAVE, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE A COUPLE OF SPEAKER CARDS THAT ARE IN RELATION TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

SO I'LL JUST CALL THESE IN THE ORDER THAT I RECEIVED THESE AND, UH, THIS, THE FIRST ONE IS MELINDA ANDERSON

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UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK, OR YOU JUST A STATEMENT OF SUPPORT? YOU'RE FINE.

EITHER WAY.

IT'S YOUR REPORT.

SO JUST MAKE A STATEMENT OF SUPPORT.

THIS IS MELINDA ANDERSON OF 2038 EAST LINDA LANE, GILBERT, ARIZONA.

WELL, I SHOULDN'T HAVE READ YOUR ADDRESS.

SO I LIVED IN THAT HOUSE FOR 55 YEARS.

SO CLERK, WE'VE GOT HER ADDRESS.

I JUST READ THAT MY NAME IS MELINDA ENGLAND ANDERSON, AND, UM, IT WAS MY FAMILY HOME.

AND I WANT TO SAY THAT I'M VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT, UH, SUPPORT OF THE BUILDINGS.

THEY ARE VERY NICE.

THEY'RE NOT TWO STORY.

LIKE THE TRIBE, THE TRIBE PLEXES THAT ARE NEXT TO US, THEY WILL ENCROACH ON ANYBODY.

AND, UM, MY MOTHER IS 87 YEARS OLD, JUST RECENTLY WAS OUT OF THE HOSPITAL FOR HEART FAILURE.

AND SO THERE IS NOT ANY OPTION FOR US AT THIS POINT.

SHE'S ALREADY BOUGHT ANOTHER HOME AND WE ARE IN NO POSITION TO HAVE ANYBODY OF WHICH WE'VE NEVER MET IN THE 55 YEARS.

WE WERE THERE TO COME IN AND TELL US THAT WE CAN'T DO IT.

NEXT CARD IS FROM BRITTANY IRWIN.

WHO WOULD REGARDING ITEM NUMBER FOUR AND FIVE, UH, BRITTANY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, UM, COME UP WITH PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND THEN YOU HAVE, UH, WHEN THAT TURNS YELLOW, YOU SHOULD WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS.

SO MY NAME IS BRITTNEY IRWIN.

I LIVE AT 29 51 WEST MARBLE DRIVE IN CHANDLER, ARIZONA.

I AM SPEAKING TO YOU GUYS TODAY BECAUSE I OPPOSE THE DEVELOPMENT AT TWO 28 45 NORTH PRICE ROAD IN CHANDLER.

AND APPARENTLY I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE BECAUSE I HAVE OVER, I HAVE OVER 200 SIGNATURES OF PEOPLE WHO OPPOSE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WANT THAT, BUT I HAVE, I WENT AND DID DOOR TO DOOR AND I DID AN ONLINE PETITION AND I DID ABOUT 200.

I GOT ABOUT 200 SIGNATURES OF PEOPLE WHO OPPOSE IT.

AND WE, AND THE MAIN REASON WHY I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS.

FOUR, DID YOU GUYS DO A TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THAT AREA? I'M I'M, I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE IF SO, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT WERE THE RESULTS, BECAUSE I CALLED THE, THE STATE, BECAUSE SINCE IT'S ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD, THE STATE WOULD HAVE TO DO THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY RESULTS BACK FROM THEM YET.

THEY SAID THEY'RE LOOKING INTO IT.

SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF, IF A TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE.

AND THEN I WAS ALSO WONDERING IF AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY WAS DONE AND WHAT WERE THE RESULTS, BECAUSE IF YOU PUT THAT MANY HOUSES, I, IT WILL BE TRAFFIC.

THE MAIN REASON WHY I'M OPPOSED OF IT IS THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.

SO YOU PUT 40 HOUSES ON 3.8, FIVE ACRES, AND IT WILL BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD AND THE FRONT, IF IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR THERE'S A ROAD CLOSURE OR WHATEVER, THERE'LL BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC.

AND JUST IN, IN AND OUT OF, THERE WOULD BE HARD FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS MARLBORO STATES, UM, TO THE FURNITURE.

SO, AND SO THEY SAID THAT THEY'LL PUT 40 HOUSES ON THERE, WHICH IN EACH HOUSE CAN HAVE UP TO THREE CARS, RIGHT? SO 40 HOUSES, TIMES THREE IS 120, AND THEN THEY SAID, YOU CAN HAVE ADDITIONAL PARKING OF 14 VISITORS.

SO IMAGINE IF YOU HAVE ALL THOSE PEOPLE TRYING TO GET OUT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AT ONE SINGLE TIME, THAT WILL BE DIFFICULT BECAUSE IT'S ONLY ONE WAY IN AND OUT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO BASICALLY I HAVE, I GOTTA WRAP IT UP.

SO BASICALLY I'M JUST SUPPOSED BECAUSE OF ALL THE TRAFFIC.

SO THANKS FOR LISTENING TO ME TODAY.

BE READY WITH THAT, PLEASE TO NEXT SPEAKER CARD IS FROM WENDY JAEGER ALSO IS OPPOSED TO THIS, WENDY, WOULD YOU, IF YOU'VE GOT JUST THE SAME THING TO SAY, PLEASE JUST SAY THAT.

AND WE'LL HAVE THE, UH, UH, I WILL GIVE THE DEVELOPER TIME AND, AND AS WELL AS STAFF AFTERWARDS, AFTER ALL OF THE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN READ TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE, THE QUESTIONS RELATED TO ENVIRONMENTAL AND TRAFFIC.

SO IF WE CAN

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I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO, UH, UM, IF YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING NEW, PLEASE BRING THAT.

I WILL.

UM, I WON'T REPEAT WHAT BRITTANY SAID BECAUSE, UM, I THINK SHE DID A GOOD JOB OF THAT.

OH, AND MY NAME IS WENDY EGGER.

MY ADDRESS IS TWO NINE FOUR SEVEN WEST MARLBORO DRIVE IN CHANDLER.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THIS.

I REALLY RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR HOUSING, AND I REALLY APPLAUD THOSE AT WORKING TOWARDS GETTING THAT FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED THE HOUSING AND HOUSING, OR I JUST REALLY FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T FIT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, THE JEW ZONING HAS BEEN CHANGED FROM AGRICULTURAL TO, UM, RESIDENTIAL.

SO THERE IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT.

I THINK THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT'S GOING TO BE BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE IN, IN ZONING.

UM, MY HOPE AND DESIRE THOUGH, IS THAT IT JUST ISN'T THIS PARTICULAR PLAN THAT IS BEING PROPOSED.

SO, UM, I GUESS THIS IS A REPEAT THAT IT IS A SMALL ACREAGE OF THE THREE POINT, UM, EIGHT ACRES AND THEY'RE PROPOSING 600 OR 640 HOUSES.

SO WITH MY UNDERSTANDING IS I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE APPROXIMATELY, UM, SIX HUNDREDS OR 14 OR 16, 600 FOOT HOUSES, 900 FOOT HOUSES AND 1200 FOOT HOUSES, JUST A SMALL AMOUNT OF THE SMALLER AMOUNT.

THEY'RE ALL CONNECTED WITH SINGLE CAR GARAGES.

PLUS, AS BRITTANY SAID, WITH ALL THE CARS AND, UM, A PLAY PARK AND A DOG PARK ALL IN THIS LITTLE PIECE OF LAND.

SO THE PURPORTED HOMES OR THEIR INDIVIDUAL HOMES IS WHAT THEY, HOW THEY ARE, UM, ADVERTISED, BUT THEY ARE ALL CONNECTED.

SO IT'S SORT OF LIKE JUST SINGLE-STORY ROW HOUSES.

SO I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE MISGUIDANCE THERE IN HOW THE PROPOSAL IS.

SO THE HOMES, WHEN I FIRST SAW THE PICTURES OF THEM, SOME OF THEM WERE OKAY, THE SMALLER HOMES ARE VERY SMALL BUNGALOW, LIKE YOU WOULD SEE AT THE BEACH OR, OR SOME SUCH, UM, AND THE, UH, THE FACADES ON THE OTHER ONES WEREN'T SO BAD.

SO I WAS ENCOURAGED THOUGH BY THE NEW VILLAGE ATTORNEY, UM, I TAYLOR, UM, TO VISIT A SIMILAR COMMUNITY THAT'S AROUND GILBERT AND, UM, MCQUEEN.

SO, UM, IN ALL FAIRNESS, I DID THAT AND I WENT TO THAT COMMUNITY AND DROVE THROUGH IT.

SO TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE, THE COLORS WERE NICE.

THE, THE FACADES ON THE BIGGER HOUSES WERE NICE.

IT WAS A MUCH LARGER PROPERTY THAN A MINE OR THIS PROPOSED WHEN, UM, BUT STILL KIND OF REALLY CROWDED.

SO I'M GOING TO SKIP THAT.

SO THE PROPERTY IN, UM, QUESTION THERE'S, UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE WORRIED ABOUT, NUMBER ONE IS DEVALUATION FROM THE RENTAL PROPERTIES.

THE RENTER SAYS THAT THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE RENTALS AND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP UP MAINTENANCE.

WE HAVE NO GUARANTEE OF WHAT THAT MAINTENANCE IS GOING TO BE.

I AGREE THAT THE OTHER PLACE LOOKED PRETTY GOOD.

UM, OR IF THEY'RE EVER GOING TO SELL AND THEN WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH VARIOUS PROPERTIES, IF YOU COULD PLEASE WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS.

OH, OKAY.

I JUST HAVE, UM, ONE MORE.

UM, WELL, I DID HAVE IT ANOTHER, I GUESS I'LL SKIP IT SINCE I HAVE TO WRAP UP, BUT, UM, I JUST WANT TO REALLY ASK YOU TO TAKE ALL OF THESE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION AND IF SOMETHING IS GOING TO BE BUILT THERE TO JUST NOT HAVE IT BE SO BIG AND SO CROWDED, THAT WOULD BE THANK YOU.

I'LL SUM IT UP WITH THAT.

NEXT CARD IS, UM, FROM GARY ANDERSON, JERRY, WOULD YOU ALSO LIKE TO SPEAK, OKAY, AGAIN, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS GARY ANDERSON, TWO ZERO THREE EIGHT EAST LINDA LANE.

MY WIFE SPOKE TO YOU EARLIER.

UM, I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE FAMILY FOR OVER 40 YEARS.

BEEN MARRIED ALMOST 42 AND, UM, YEARS AGO IT WAS ALL FIVE ACRE PARCELS, RIGHT ALONG PRICE ROAD.

UH, THE STATE CAME IN, PUT THE HIGHWAY IN, BUT THE FRONTAGE ROAD DID OBVIOUSLY THINGS CHANGE.

UM, MARLBORO WENT IN, WE HAD A SECOND STORY HOMES COME IN, SO THINGS CHANGE.

AND THEN TO THE SOUTH, THE TRIPLEX CONDOS CAME IN, UH, AGAIN, TWO STORY THINGS CHANGE.

SO THESE ARE ALL SINGLE STORY HOMES.

UM, I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE PROFESSIONALLY DESIGNED AND PLANNED OUT WHERE THE CITY OF CHANDLER TO,

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UH, DO THE INFILL.

SO I'M HERE JUST TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

AND OUR LAST CARD IS ACTUALLY THE DEVELOPER TAYLOR EARL.

AND, UM, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS RELATED TO TRAFFIC STUDY, ENVIRONMENTAL, IF YOU'RE IN A POSITION TO ADDRESS THOSE, I'D APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL.

THANK YOU, MAYOR FOR YOUR RECORD.

TAYLOR EARL ADDRESS, 31 OH ONE NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE.

UH, SO AS IT RELATES TO TRAFFIC, UM, THERE WAS NO OFFICIAL STUDY PREPARED OTHER THAN WE DID WORK WITH STAFF, UH, AND THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT WITHIN, WITHIN STAFF WHO HAS LOOKED AT THIS PROJECT, UM, AND THEY, THEY ARE IN SUPPORT, UM, OF THE PROJECT.

UM, THIS, THIS PROJECT ONLY PRODUCES 25, UH, PEAK TRIP, UH, PEAK HOUR TRIPS.

SO IS RELATIVELY LOW TRAFFIC GENERATOR.

UM, ALTHOUGH IT DOES HAVE 40 HOMES, THEY ARE SMALLER.

AND SO THE AMOUNT OF CARS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN IF YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT FIVE BEDROOM HOMES WITH TEENAGE DRIVERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UM, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF CAPACITY OFF OF PRICE ROAD.

UM, I COULD CERTAINLY PULL UP EXHIBITS AND SHOW YOU, BUT THE REALITY IS THAT OUR PROJECT, AND THEN ONLY THE TUBE SOUTH OF IT ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT ACCESS PRICED ROAD SOUTH OF THAT SUBDIVISION.

THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ONTO THIS SECTION, RIGHT? SO BELOW FROM WARNER ROAD UP, UH, PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE ACCESSING, THIS WOULD BE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THIS SECTION.

IF YOU ARE SOUTH OF WARREN, YOU JUST GET ON THE FREEWAY.

UH, AND SO IT'S REALLY ONLY A, JUST A FEW PROJECTS AND THEN THEIR COMMUNITY HAS A RIGHT OUT ONLY.

SO IN TERMS OF QUITE A BIT OF CAPACITY ON THE TWO LANES, IT'S ONE DIRECTION.

TYPICALLY WE TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC CONCERNS.

WE'RE THINKING ABOUT, UH, INFILL ALL, WE CAN'T MAKE THE LEFT TURN, OR I CAN'T DO THIS MOVEMENT HERE.

EVERYBODY'S GETTING OUT AND TURNING, RIGHT? SO IT'S, IT'S QUITE, UM, QUITE CAPABLE OF MAKING THAT IN TERMS OF ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY.

I THINK WE USE THAT TERM AS SOIL SAMPLING AND THING LIKE THAT.

I THINK SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL IN TERMS OF THE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.

AND AGAIN, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT STAFF HAS LOOKED AT.

IN FACT, THE COUNCIL LOOKED AT IT BROADER IN TERMS OF THE GENERAL PLAN.

UH, THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN, UM, AS IT'S UP AGAINST THE FREEWAY CORRIDOR, THOSE TYPES OF AREAS ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN SOME AREAS, UH, IN THE CITY.

AND THAT'S WHAT A GENERAL PLAN IS CALLED FOR.

SO, BECAUSE WE'RE CONSISTENT WITH THAT AND STAFF IS IN SUPPORT.

HAVING LOOKED AT THAT CAREFUL ANALYSIS OF WHAT THE IMPACT IS, WHICH I THINK IS WHAT THE, UH, WHAT SHE WAS MENTIONING IN TERMS OF KNOW ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.

SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.

UM, COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPER MAYOR? YOU JUST HAVE TO REMEMBER ORLANDO, JUST QUESTIONS FOR THEIR STAFF WHEN I RIGHT CLICK, UM, SO NO QUESTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPER OR RIGHT.

IF WE COULD HAVE A CORPORATE STAFF PERSON COME UP A GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL HARDLY NO HORN JUNIOR PLANNER COUNCIL MEMBER.

SO HARLEY, DO WE NORMALLY REQUIRE A TRAFFIC STUDY? OKAY.

UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, UH, I'M NOT AWARE OF THE SPECIFICS, UH, WHICH CASE IT WOULD BE TRIGGERED.

I NOTICED SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE PREPS, THE NUMBER OF UNITS.

UM, BUT I, I, I KNOW THAT ONE WAS NOT REQUIRED IN THIS CASE.

DO WE? OKAY.

I NEED A, I NEED A MORE DEFINITIVE ANSWER.

THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU.

HARLEY OF COURSE IS A VERY, VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

DO WE NORMALLY REQUIRE TRAFFIC STUDIES WHEN WE DO THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT MAYOR IN ORLANDO? UH, HARLEY IS CORRECT IN THAT THERE'S A THRESHOLD, A MINIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS.

UH, AND IT'S, I WANT TO SAY NORTH OF 200, BEFORE WE ACTUALLY THEN TRIGGER A TRAFFIC STUDY, THAT'S BEING 40.

UH, IT DID NOT.

HOWEVER, ANECDOTALLY, WHEN WE HAVE OUR PRE-TEST, UH, REVIEW OF A PROJECT, UH, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER IS PART OF THAT REVIEW PROCESS.

AND SO EVEN IF IT'S NOT TRIGGERED, IT'S STILL KIND OF VIEWED UNDER THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER'S EYES.

AND, UH, IT IS LOOKED AT THE PROPOSAL AND THEN ALSO THE ROADWAY NETWORK THAT IT'S ATTACHING TO.

UM, AND, UH, THE APPLICANT IS, UH, IS CORRECT THAT, THAT SECTION OF THE PRICE ROAD FRONTAGE WHILE THERE'S TRAFFIC ON IT, IT IS FAR BELOW ITS CAPACITY.

IT'S IN THAT 20, 30% RANGE IS WHAT'S CURRENTLY OPERATING IT.

AND THIS DOESN'T EVEN ADD 1% TO THAT, TO THAT TRAFFIC VOLUME.

SO BASED ON THAT, UH, THOSE, THE ANECDOTAL REVIEW AND KIND OF THE TECHNICAL REVIEW OF IT IS THERE.

START AT THE GENERAL PLAN AND THEN ALL THE WAY THROUGH OUR DESIGN STANDARDS AND EVERYTHING, UH, ONCE IT GETS TO ULTIMATELY HOW THE SITE IS BUILT, UH, THAT'S A FUNCTION IN KIND OF REGULATED BY THE BUILDING CODE AND ALL REVIEW IT AT THE TIME THAT THE APPLICANTS AND ITS BUILDING PERMITS.

AND THEN, UH, THANK YOU.

AND I, I, I SHOWED A LITTLE MORE DETAIL FOR THE RECORD.

THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING.

SO THE ORDINANCE WE HAVE IN PLACE ALREADY REQUIRED, THESE TWO AREN'T UNITS ARE ABOUT AYE, THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT'S IN MY HEAD, BUT I, I COULD BE WRONG.

WELL, WE DO HAVE, WE DO HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN YOUR QUALITY, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY.

WHAT KIND OF ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY WOULD WE DO IF WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY, UH, NOT IN THE SENSE OF SAY KIND OF HOW CALIFORNIA REQUIRES THOSE TYPES OF ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES.

UH, THE APPLICANT IS ALSO CORRECT.

AND THAT FROM AN ENVIRONMENT, UH, IN THAT MEANS THAT THE PHYSICAL BUILT ENVIRONMENT, THAT ALSO MEANS KIND OF AN EMISSION STANDPOINT.

UM, THE PHYSICAL BUILT ENVIRONMENT IS THE EVALUATION THAT'S DONE THROUGH

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SO HARLEY ARE YOU, DID, DID THE APPLICANT, HAVE WE HAVE ANY OTHER, UH, WE HAVE OTHER USES FOR THIS PROPERTY IN THE PAST? OR WHAT, WHAT HAVE WE SEEN ON THIS PROPERTY IN THE LAST FEW YEARS THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO? UH, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, IT HAS ONLY BEEN A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, CULTURAL PROPERTY.

AND THEY HAD THE ONE RESIDENT ON THE LEFT.

WE TALKED ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT, RIGHT.

AT ONE TIME THIS COUNCIL MEMBER.

UM, AND THEN JUST LOOKING AT THE MAP HERE, I SEE THE MARBELLA STATES OBVIOUSLY TO THE NORTH OF THIS, UH, VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROJECT.

AND THEN WHAT DO WE HAVE TO THE EAST OF IT? UH, THERE'S ANOTHER, IS THAT COUNTY PROPERTY THERE OR IS THAT JUST, IS THAT THE CITY OR THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO THAT IS UNINCORPORATED LARGE LOTS SINGLE FAMILY, RIGHT ON INCORPORATE THAT RIGHT? YES.

THANK YOU AND HARLEY, THANK YOU FOR FOLLOWING UP ON SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS ON MONDAY NIGHT.

I APPRECIATE IT.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU, MARIN COUNCIL COUNCIL.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? NOT, UM, I BELIEVE A MOTION WOULD BE IN ORDER UNLESS THERE'S SOME OTHER ITEMS. IF VICE MAYOR.

YES, MA'AM.

UH, I SAW A MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL.

WE'LL HAVE OUR CONSENT AGENDA FOR THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 5TH ITEMS ONE THROUGH 45 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF NUMBER ITEM NUMBER TWO, AND THEN 43 AND 44 ALSO ON THERE.

TWO 43 44.

UM, CORRECTION SECOND.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND CONSTANTLY.

ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, OTHERWISE, PLEASE VOTE.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

[43. INTRODUCTION OF ORDINANCE NO. 4946, ANX20-0001, approving annexation and initial City zoning, located north of the northeast corner of Arizona Avenue and Germann Road.]

ON OUR AGENDA.

I KNOW THAT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER WONG, UH, HAS MOVED, UH, ITEM NUMBER TWO, BUT I'M GOING TO TAKE AN ORDER IN WHICH THEY APPEARED.

SO WE'LL NOW PROCEED WITH THE ITEM NUMBER 43 AND 44.

AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A STAFF REPORT AND THEN WE'LL CALL UP THE APPLICANT MAYOR COUNCIL.

THANK YOU, UH, ITEMS. UH, THESE ITEMS ARE ALL PERTAINING TO THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, EVERGREEN CHANDLER, WHICH IS A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT PERTAIN TO THIS REQUEST.

FIRST, YOU HAD AN X 20 ZERO ZERO ZERO ONE.

THIS IS THE ANNEXATION AND INITIAL CITY ZONING OF A SMALL PARCEL LOCATED IN THE SOUTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

IT IS ABOUT A QUARTER ACRE AND AREA AND UPON A ANNEXATION AND INITIAL CITY REZONING, IT WOULD BE ZONE TWO AG ONE, WHICH IS MOST COMPARABLE WITH ITS EXISTING COUNTY SETTING.

NEXT, IT WOULD BE AN AREA PLAN AMENDMENT TO THE CHANDLER AIR PARK AREA PLAN.

AND THAT'S PLA 20 ZERO ZERO SEVEN.

AND YOU'LL SEE HERE THAT THAT WILL, UH, THAT IS REQUESTED FOR THE ENTIRE SUBJECT SITE, INCLUDING THE ANNEX PROPERTY.

AND THE SAME GOES FOR PLH 20 ZERO ZERO ZERO SIX, THE REQUESTED REZONING AND PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

SO DIVING IN A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THE SITE, UH, IT IS SHOWN HERE IN RED.

IT IS A LITTLE BIT OVER 16 ACRES IN AREA AND LOCATED TO THE EAST OF ARIZONA AVENUE, UH, JUST TO THE NORTH OF THE INTERSECTION WITH JERMAINE ROAD.

UH, THIS EXHIBIT SHOWS THE EXISTING LAND USES SURROUNDING IT, AS WELL AS ON THE SITE, THE SITE HAS MOST RECENTLY BEEN USED FOR LANDSCAPE SUPPLY STORAGE, UH, AND ALSO WHEN WE LOOK MORE CLOSELY HERE, UH, THE C3 PARCEL VACANT OFFICES AS WELL, UH, SURROUNDING THE SITE, UH, WEST OF ARIZONA AVENUE, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF EXISTING MOBILE HOME UNITS.

AND THEN JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THAT FUTURE BY RIGHT MULTIFAMILY, UH, APPEARS TO BE DEVELOPING TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE.

YOU HAVE SELF STORAGE, A NURSERY LANDSCAPE SUPPLIES, AND THEN ADDITIONAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL LAND USES, UH, TO THE NORTHEAST AS WELL.

UH,

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IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE SITE IS THE RAILROAD, UH, AND THEN FURTHER MATERIAL SUPPLIES, SHIPPING, UH, SCRAP MATERIAL YARD, UH, EAST OF THAT AS WELL, UH, DOWN ON YOUR MAIN ROAD, WE HAVE COUNTY AND, UH, CIRCLE K FUELING STATION.

SO HERE, AGAIN, LOOKING MORE CLOSELY AT THE ZONING OF THE CURRENT SITE, UH, IN GREEN, WE HAVE A PORTION OF THE SITE IS CURRENTLY AGRICULTURAL, AND THAT IS INCLUDING THE PARCEL THAT WOULD BE ANNEXED IN TO THE WEST OF THAT.

THE SMALL SITE THAT IS C3 FOR COMMERCIAL AND THE PURPLE AREA WAS MOST RECENTLY IN 2000, 2008, REZONE TO PAD OR COMMERCIAL OFFICE BUSINESS PARKLAND USES, UH, APPROXIMATELY 108,000 SQUARE FEET OF THAT USE.

SO BEING THAT NONE OF THOSE, UH, NONE OF THESE ZONING DISTRICTS PERMIT RESIDENTIAL LAND USES THE APPLICANT IS OF COURSE, REQUESTING THE REZONING.

THE REZONING TO PAD WOULD ACCOMMODATE 396 MULTI-FAMILY DWELLING UNITS.

ONE SPREAD ACROSS THIS SITE.

IT EQUATES TO 23.8 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

UH, HERE, THE FIRST EXHIBIT ON TOP, YOU CAN SEE THE SITE LAYOUT, UH, HERE BEING ACCESSED FROM ARIZONA AVENUE, UH, THE RENDERING ON THE BOTTOM, SHOWING THAT ENTRANCE, THERE ARE 10 PROPOSED THREE-STORY BUILDINGS LOCATED IN THE CENTER OF THE SITE.

NINE TWO STORY BUILDINGS LOCATED ALONG THE PERIMETER.

THEY'RE PROPOSING A BUILDING HEIGHT UP TO 37 FEET TO ACCOMMODATE THE THREE STORIES HERE ON THE BOTTOM.

YOU SEE THE PROPOSED TWO STORY CLUBHOUSE THAT'S LOCATED, UH, IMMEDIATELY UPON THE ENTRANCE.

THE PRIMARY BUILDING MATERIAL IS STUCCO.

THERE IS ALSO SOME SCORED CMU, AND YOU WILL PRIMARILY SEE A FLAT PARAPET ROOF LINE, UH, ALSO WITH THE INVERTED AND ANGLED ROOF LINE NEAR THE ENTRANCE.

UH, THESE ELEVATIONS ARE THE THREE-STORY UNITS OR THREE-STORY BUILDINGS AGAIN, LOCATED TOWARDS THE CENTER OF THE SITE, UH, ON TOP HERE, A THREE-STORY BUILDING LOCATED NEAR THE STREET AND ON THE BOTTOM, THESE TWO-STORY UNITS WOULD BE LOCATED ALONG THE PERIMETER, JUST 10 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.

SO NOW MOVING ON FROM THE PROPOSED REZONING, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE GUIDANCE OF OUR GENERAL PLAN, THE BLACK STAR HERE.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT'S THE LOCATION OF THE SITE? IT'S OKAY.

DIDN'T AREA RECOMMENDED FOR EMPLOYMENT.

FUTURE LAND USES AS SHOWN IN THE PURPLE, THE BLUE OUTLINE YOU SEE SURROUNDING NUMBER THREE, IDENTIFY AS A CHANDLER AIR PARK GROWTH AREA AND NOT SHOWN ON THE SIDE, BUT HERE IN RED IS A FURTHER REFINEMENT OF THE EMPLOYMENT, UH, FUTURE LAND USE THE TRANSITIONAL EMPLOYMENT CORRIDOR, AND ALSO A HIGH CAPACITY TRANSIT CORRIDOR, UH, ALIGNS CLOSELY WITH THAT RED AREA.

THE GENERAL PLAN, THE GUIDANCE OF THE EMPLOYMENT AREA AND HIGH CAPACITY TRANSIT CORRIDOR, UH, WHILE EMPLOYMENT IS OBVIOUSLY TO SUPPORT THE ECONOMY, A CHANDLER AND PER, UH, SUPPORT LAND USES THAT CREATE JOBS.

IT DOES ALLOW FOR RESIDENTIAL TO BE CONSIDERED.

UH, IT ASKS THAT IT'D BE AN INTEGRAL COMPONENT OF AN EMPLOYMENT AREA OR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, UH, FURTHER THE TRANSITIONAL EMPLOYMENT CORRIDOR THAT KIND OF SUBSECTION WITHIN THE EMPLOYMENT FUTURE LAND USE.

IT RECOGNIZE THAT EXISTING ALONG ARIZONA AVENUE IS ALREADY A VARIETY OF LAND USES, AND IT DID NOT WANT TO APPLY ONE FUTURE LAND USE.

SO IT ALLOWS COUNCIL, UH, TO FURTHER CONSIDER A VARIETY OF LAND USES.

BUT THE TRUE INTENT OF IT WAS REALLY TO ACCOMMODATE THAT EXISTING VARIETY AND FIND AN APPROPRIATE SET OF MATCHING, UH, SURROUNDING LAND USES.

UH, WHEN WE APPLY THAT GUIDANCE OF THE GENERAL PLAN, UH, IN STAFF'S OPINION, IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THE PROPOSAL IS TRULY AN INTEGRAL PART OF MIXED USE OR, OR FUTURE POTENTIAL MIXED USE, UH, EMPLOYMENT SIDE OF LAND USES HERE ON THIS SITE.

IT APPEARS TO BIFURCATE THIS SITE INSTEAD OF, UH, HOPEFULLY WORKING MORE WITH IT IN AN INTEGRAL FASHION BY MAYBE SHARING, UH, ACCESS OR CIRCULATION PARKING, UH, OR EVEN A DESIGN AESTHETIC, UH, AS AN EXAMPLE ON THE RIGHT, UH, WE BELIEVE THIS IS A MORE INTEGRATED, UH, APPLICATION OF RESIDENTIAL, ALTHOUGH YOU DON'T HAVE ANY SURROUNDING EMPLOYMENT LAND USES, IT'S LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION, AND IT HAS RETAINED A LARGE AREA THAT COULD STILL ATTRACT BUSINESSES AND EMPLOYMENT LAND USES LOOKING BACK TO THE, UH, TRANSITIONAL EMPLOYMENT CORRIDOR FURTHER.

I, IT REALLY SPOKE AGAIN TO THAT EXISTING VARIETY OF LAND USES AND JUST TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.

UH, WHEREAS HERE STAFF REALLY SEES THAT WE HAVE RATHER A CONSISTENT SET OF EXISTING LAND USES AS WELL AS

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RECOMMENDED LAND USES.

AND SO THAT INJECTION OF RESIDENTIAL, AGAIN, MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE.

UH, HERE AGAIN, OUR EXHIBITS SHOWING THOSE EXISTING SURROUNDING LAND USES.

UH, AND AGAIN, THEY JUST DO NOT APPEAR TO BE APPROPRIATE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE GUIDING PLAN, UH, FURTHER THE GUIDING PLAN REFERENCES, A CHANDLER AIR PARK AREA PLAN FOR THIS GROWTH AREA.

THE STAR AGAIN, SHOWS WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED.

THIS IS CALLED OUT AS COMMERCIAL OFFICE BUSINESS PARKLAND USES AND ALSO LIGHT RAIL CORRIDOR OVERLAY, WHICH SPEAKS TO, UH, MIXED USES, UH, OR RESIDENTIAL AS WELL TO BE CONSIDERED, UH, HERE MORE CLOSELY.

YOU SEE THE SITE OUTLINED IN WHITE, AND THIS IS SHOWING I'M SORRY, UH, FOR THIS AREA, UH, IT IS RECOMMENDED FOR COMMERCIAL OFFICE BUSINESS PARK TO THE EAST.

YOU SEE THE RAILROAD AND THEN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND OTHER INDUSTRIAL USES ROUNDING IT, UH, WHICH ARE FURTHER RECOMMENDED.

THE CHANDLER AIR PARK AREA PLAN RECOMMENDS THAT WE, AGAIN, ENSURE LAND USE COMPATIBILITY, PROTECT EMPLOYMENT, LAND USES, PROTECT THE AIRPORT MORE SPECIFICALLY, UH, AND PRESERVE AND GROW EXISTING BUSINESSES AND FULLY DEVELOP HIGH QUALITY EMPLOYMENT CENTERS, UH, SPECIFICALLY IN THE COMMERCIAL OFFICE BUSINESS PARK RECOMMENDED LAND USE AREAS.

SO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WOULD CHANGE THAT COMMERCIAL OFFICE BUSINESS PARK AREA, UH, INTO A RECOMMENDATION FOR HIGH DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL AS SHOWN HERE.

AND AGAIN, WHEN STAFF APPLIES THESE GUIDING PLANS, UH, IT SEEMS THAT INSTEAD OF ENSURING A COMPATIBILITY OF LAND USES, THIS MAY REDUCE IT BY INJECTING RESIDENTIAL, WHERE THERE CURRENTLY IS RATHER CONSISTENT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL USES.

WE BELIEVE THAT IT MAY REDUCE EMPLOYMENT, UH, AS EXPLAINED IN YOUR MEMO, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAS TAKEN A LOOK AT, UH, THE OVERALL SITE, UH, HERE, AND IF IT WERE HELD OFF ON BEING DEVELOPED AS MULTIFAMILY AND INSTEAD DEVELOPED WITH AN EMPLOYMENT LAND USE, IT MAY GENERATE UP TO 230 JOBS OR EXISTING CHANDLER RESIDENCES.

INSTEAD OF SUPPORTING THE OPERATION OF THE AIRPORT.

THE CHANDLER AIRPORT COMMISSION HAS DETERMINED THAT THIS CONSTITUTES A CONFLICT WITH THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED OPERATION OF THE AIR PARK.

AND THEY CAME TO THIS DETERMINATION BASED ON THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS THAT ARE PROPOSED AND AN EVEN GREATER NUMBER OF RESIDENTS, APPROXIMATELY 800, UH, BEING EXPOSED TO AIRCRAFT NOISE ON A DAILY BASIS INSTEAD OF SUPPORTING EXISTING OR FUTURE BUSINESSES.

UH, AGAIN, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAS SUPPORTED THAT THIS MAY DIMINISH THE POTENTIAL OF EXISTING BUSINESSES BY ENCOURAGING OTHER MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS TO COME FORWARD TO COUNCIL.

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, INSTEAD OF FULLY DEVELOPING A HIGH QUALITY EMPLOYMENT CENTER, IT IS REMOVING ONE THAT IS ALREADY ZONED FOR ON THIS SITE, UH, AS WELL AS THE ADDITIONAL PARCELS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED.

SO OUR FINDINGS, UH, TO RECAP IS THAT THIS PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT INCONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN, AS WELL AS THE CHAMPION AIR PARK AREA PLAN, UH, UPON BEING PRESENTED TO THE CHANDLER AIR PARK AIRPORT COMMISSION, IT WAS DETERMINED TO BE A CONFLICT WITH THE OPERATION OF THE AIRPORT.

AND AS EXPLAINED IN THE MEMO, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAS ALSO WEIGHED IN AND ADVISES AGAINST THE REZONING.

AND FOR THAT REASON, WE ARE RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF THIS REQUEST.

SO AT PLANNING AND ZONING, WAS IT, UH, WHAT WAS THE VOTE ON THE DENIAL IN THIS PLACE? IT WAS A VOTE OF FIVE TO TWO, FIVE TO TWO.

COUNSEL, WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE FOR STAFF BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE APPLICANT COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO? SO THANK YOU MAYOR.

WHEN YOU SAY CONFLICT WITH THE AIRPORT OPERATIONS, YOU DON'T MEAN FLYING OPERATIONS.

YOU MEAN BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT? AYE.

CAUSE IT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

I WOULD DEFER MORE SO TO THE, UH, AIR PARK ADMINISTRATOR TO MORE PRECISELY ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BUT, UH, NOT WITH THE, IT DID NOT APPEAR THAT THE CONFLICT WAS WITH THE ACTUAL FLYING AIRCRAFT, BUT MORE SO WITH THE ABILITY TO SUSTAIN THE AIRPORT, TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES THAT RELATE TO THE AIRPORT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M WANTING TO BE VERY CLEAR.

WE SAY OPERATIONS, YOU KNOW, I THINK IN BEING AN OLD MILITARY AIR FORCE GUY, I'M THINKING FLIGHTS.

SO JUST, I WANT TO CLARIFY MY OWN MIND.

WE'RE GOOD ON THAT.

UM, IS ARIZONA AVENUE CONSIDERED A HIGH-CAPACITY CORRIDOR, UH, THROUGH THE MERIT COUNCIL MAN YESTERDAY.

SO WHY WOULD WE, WE, WE HAVE A CASE THAT WAS JUST PULLED AS ITEM TWO THAT STAFF TALKED ABOUT ON MONDAY NIGHT, INDICATING THAT THE REASON WHY WE WANT THE HIGHER DENSITY THERE IS BECAUSE OF HIGH CAPACITY CORRIDOR.

AND, UM,

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IT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS AND WE'RE TAKING EMPLOYMENT THERE.

I MEAN, WE HAVE ALREADY TWO BUILDINGS THERE THAT RIGHT NOW THAT ARE EMPLOYMENT, WE'RE RECONFIGURING THAT TO MULTIFAMILY.

UM, YET WE'RE TAKING THIS ONE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY EMPLOYMENT, OR IT COULD BE EMPLOYMENT AND WE DON'T WANT MULTIFAMILY.

SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE HERE? WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO DO HERE? WHAT ARE WE SAYING TO THE DEVELOPER COMMUNITY OUT THERE? I DID AMERICA, COUNCILMAN, EACH DEVELOPMENT PROJECT IS DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE IN EACH WAY.

UH, THAT ITEM FOR EXAMPLE, IS ADJACENT TO AN EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER TO THE EAST THAT COULD USE SOME RESIDENTS INJECTED THERE TO HELP SUPPORT IT AND SUSTAIN IT.

UH, WE'VE HEARD FROM APPLICANTS COMING IN THAT THE OFFICE ENVIRONMENT HAS REALLY CHANGED OVER YEARS OR DECADES AND THAT THE EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT SITE AREN'T AS MARKETABLE AS THEY USED TO BE.

SO THERE, UH, I BELIEVE IN, WE COULD DEFER TO THAT PLANNER FOR FURTHER DETAILS, UH, BUT IT BELIEVES THE BENEFIT THERE IS REALLY TO SUPPORT THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL END USERS TO THE EAST.

AND AGAIN, I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY, JUST REITERATE, WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS EACH SITE IS DIFFERENT.

EACH SITE IS INDEPENDENT AND WE HAVE TO EVALUATE THAT UNTIL WE SHOULD BE EVALUATING THAT ON THE MERITS OF EACH SITE IS WHAT YOU DO WITH PNC DOES, OF COURSE, WITH THIS COUNCIL DOES.

CAUSE THE ONES, AND THAT WAS MY POINT.

SO JUST COULD BE RIGHT.

MY POINT A MAYOR, I HOLD OFF ON SOME OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

THAT'S ONLY BECAUSE OF HER MCLENDON.

SO, UM, IF, IF THE PERFECT PROJECT WALKED ALONG, WHAT WOULD IT BE RIGHT THERE THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCILMEN, UH, THE PERFECT PROJECT AND AN EMPLOYMENT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING NOT, UH, APPROVING THIS.

AND SO WHAT WOULD YOU PREFER? OKAY.

I MEAN, I WOULD ASK MARK MIRANDA TO COME UP AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

ABSOLUTELY.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ASK IF YOU'RE WELCOME THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER CLIMATES, UM, IN TODAY'S CLIMATE, UH, THE APPROPRIATE USE WOULD OBVIOUSLY FOLLOW WHAT THE GENERAL PLAN CALLS FOR.

THAT'S KIND OF WHAT STAFF'S GUIDING DIRECTION WOULD BE AS TO FOLLOW THE GUIDING DOCUMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN HANDED.

THIS AREA CALLS FOR EMPLOYMENT.

AS WE DRILL DOWN INTO SPECIFIC BUILDING TYPES AND USES, I THINK WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF ACTIVITY IN AND AROUND THE AIRPORT THAT SUPPORTS AND GIVES DIRECTION AS TO WHAT THAT PREFERRED USE WOULD BE, UM, FROM AN INDUSTRIAL PERSPECTIVE, MUCH LESS THAN THE OFFICE PERSPECTIVE.

SO, I MEAN, CLASS A INDUSTRIAL, I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT KIND OF OFFICE SPACE DO YOU, UM, WHAT KIND OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDING? I MEAN, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING THERE, UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCILOR CLIMATES, I THINK WHAT WE WOULD, BUT THE NEXT LOGICAL, UH, USE WOULD BE, WOULD BE INDUSTRIAL FLAGS, 30 FOOT CEILING, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY LOOKING AT A FAR WE'VE GOT 33% ONSITE, VERY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE SEEN ELSEWHERE IN THE AIR PARK AREA.

THANK YOU, SIR.

SO GIVEN THIS, THIS PLOT, UH, THAT'S BEEN ASSEMBLED BY THE OWNER.

UM, I GUESS ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT, THE OTHER USES THAT ARE AROUND THERE, UM, CAN'T REALLY CROSSOVER AND I MEAN, I DON'T FORESEE ANYTHING ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE WHERE THE BUSINESS WOULD CROSS OVER THE RAILROADS BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF A HARD STOP, BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME COUNTY NORTH AGAIN, AND THE NURSERY SOUTH IS, IS IT YOUR OPINION OR WOULD YOU FORESEE THAT IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT KIND OF FLEX DEVELOPMENT, THAT IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD REQUIRE TO, AGAIN, ASSEMBLE MORE PROPERTIES TO MAKE THAT FEASIBLE OR IS THAT TRULY FEASIBLE AS IT, IT STANDS AS JUST THIS 30 ACRES? I DON'T REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS THREE 80 ACRES, 16, SORRY.

OTHER ADJACENT PROPERTIES IN TERMS OF ASSEMBLAGE.

THROUGH THE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, LOOKING AT THAT, THE PLOT SIZE AND KIND OF THE DIMENSIONS OF INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTS WE SEE, COME IN, WE SEE, YOU KNOW, SOME OPPORTUNITIES.

UM, YOU LOOK TO THE NORTH THERE'S PROPERTIES THAT LOOK VERY SIMILAR TO IT IN TERMS OF GEOMETRY AND LAYOUT THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE THE SITE, UM, DEPENDING ON ORIENTATION, REALLY LOOKING MORE EAST AND WEST TYPE OF APPROACH, AS OPPOSED TO A NORTH AND SOUTH.

SO, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE

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I DON'T LIKE GOING DOWN THOSE ROADS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO, BUT, UM, EVEN WITHOUT ASSEMBLAGE, I THINK IT DEFINITELY HAS OPPORTUNITIES FROM AN INDUSTRIAL PERSPECTIVE.

SO NO LOOKING FOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE MET TWICE AND TALKED ABOUT, UM, MULTI-HOUSING AND JOBS AND, UH, THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN, UM, PRETTY BULLISH ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

UM, I KNOW YOU'VE GIVEN US A NUMBER IN THE PAST OF JOBS PER HOUSEHOLDS IN CHANDLER ABOUT 1.161.

WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THAT, UH, MAYOR RIGHT NOW, WE JUST, THIS PAST YEAR, WE WENT FROM A 1.16 TO A 1.24.

SO, UM, THE POLICIES THAT WE'VE BEEN LAYING OUT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN INCREASING OUR JOBS TO HOUSING RATIO.

AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT SEVERAL MORE RESIDENCES THAT ARE, OR SINCE WE'RE IN THE AIRPORT AREA THAT ARE KIND OF, UH, LINING UP IN THE QUEUE TO LAND, BUT WITH OUR, OUR CLOSER APPROACH TO BUILD OUT AGAIN, IT REALLY DOES REQUIRE EVERY PARCEL TO BE EXAMINED.

THEN FOR COUNCIL TO DECIDE, DO WE WANT TO BE A PLACE WITH JOBS OR ARE AGAIN ALLOWING, UM, JUST MORE S MORE OF A SUBURB NATION WITH MORE HOUSINGS, BUT IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS IS BASICALLY BECAUSE OF ZONING.

I KNOW WE'VE GOT A LONG STANDING POSITION.

IT USED TO BE THAT THE EAST SIDE OF ARIZONA ON AVENUE WAS, WAS MORE LINED FOR COMMERCIAL AND JOBS CLOSE BETWEEN THERE AND THE TRACKS AND BEYOND THE, THE WEST SIDE TRADITIONALLY HAD A, HAD A MORE FAVORABLE LOOK FOR HOUSING.

IS THAT STILL THE OVERALL LOOK THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE APPROACHING ON THESE, UM, THROUGH THE MAYOR AGAIN? UH, YES.

AND IT'S REALLY THE, THE APPROACH THAT TAKES IS REALLY FOLLOWING THOSE GUIDING DOCUMENTS, THE GENERAL PLAN, THE AIR PARK AREA PLAN TO REALLY FLESH OUT, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, BASED UPON WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED, UH, BY THE CITIZENS AND IN COUNCILS.

COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MICAH MIRANDA MAYOR YET FOLLOW UP COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, FOLLOW UP THE COUNCIL MEMBER.

MCCLENDON'S QUESTION.

UM, WHAT HAVE WE SEEN COME IN THAT AREA? WHO'S CONTACTED US AND SAY, I WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING OUT THERE THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL, ORLANDO, THERE IS ACTUALLY BEEN VERY ATTRACTIVE FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT.

UM, JUST TO THE EAST, WE HAVE THE VIA WEST DEVELOPMENT, UM, FURTHER EAST ALONG THE PRICE CORE, OR EXCUSE ME IN THE AIR PARK HERE.

WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF, UH, INDUSTRIAL AND INFLUX PROJECTS COME THROUGH.

SO ACTIVITY WITHIN THAT INDUSTRIAL FLEX SPACE HAS BEEN VERY STRONG AND YOU JUST DRIVE THROUGH THE AIR PARK AREA QUARTER.

YOU CAN REALLY SEE THE, UH, UM, DESIRE FOR IT.

SO LET ME BE MORE SPECIFIC QUESTION.

HOW ABOUT FOR THIS SPECIFIC PIECE OF PROPERTY? HAVE YOU SEEN ANY ACTIVITY FOR THIS SPECIFIC PIECE OF PROPERTY THROUGH THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL ORLANDO FOR THIS SPECIFIC PROPERTY? NOTHING OTHER THAN WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED AND APPROVED ALREADY.

SO, UM, ARE WE, UH, I'LL GET, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THE APPLICANT ON THAT.

CAUSE THEY MIGHT HAVE, YOU KNOW, MIGHT MAYBE BE MORE CLEAR ON WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON IN THAT AREA.

AND YOU JUST WANT CLARITY BECAUSE THE NORTHERN PARCEL WAS TALKED ABOUT IS THAT, THAT ALREADY.

SO THERE WAS AN APPLICANT THAT CAME IN A WHILE AGO TO GET THAT REZONE FOR, UM, COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL PARK.

IT WAS COMMERCIAL ON THE, ON THE, ON THE ROAD OUT.

SO I GUESS WE'RE BACK TO BACK TO PLANNING.

SORRY.

SO WITH THIS, I'M DONE, I'M DONE WITH MY GET I'M SORRY.

YOU'RE THE MAYOR COUNCILMAN.

IN 2008.

UM, IF IT COMES UP BACK ONTO YOUR SCREEN, THE PURPLE AREA THAT WAS REZONED TO PID DID ACCOMMODATE OVER 108,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL OFFICE BUSINESS PARKLAND USES.

AND THEN ON THE, JUST ALPHA THREE C THREE.

SO THAT, THAT WAS ALSO THE ZONE FOR A COMMERCIAL ALREADY FOR TWO, CORRECT? YES.

YEP.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR STEPH? SEE NONE, UH, LIKE TO INVITE THE APPLICANT TO COME UP, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.

MR. MAYOR CHARLES HUMANA PO BOX ONE EIGHT THREE THREE, TEMPE, ARIZONA FOR THE RECORD.

THESE ARE STILL STAFF PRESENTATION TO THE OWNER.

PERFECT.

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SO HERE, WITHOUT THE RECOMMENDATION OF, UM, SUPPORT FROM STAFF, THAT'S UNUSUAL, WE DON'T NORMALLY DO THAT.

IN FACT, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE LAST TIME THAT THAT'S HAPPENED, BUT THIS IS 2020.

AND SO I'D ASK YOU TO GIVE ME A LITTLE LEEWAY TO EXPLAIN WHY WE HAVE A DIFFERENT VISION FOR THE CASE.

NORMALLY YOU SEE A LOT OF THE SAME SLIDE.

DO YOU SEE A LOT OF THE SAME INTERPRETATIONS BECAUSE WE'VE WORKED WITH STAFF AND IN THIS CASE WE HAVE FOR ALMOST A YEAR TO TRY TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT.

BUT THE SIMPLE FACT IS WE, WE DON'T AGREE.

WE DON'T AGREE IN, ON SORT OF FLIP THE REALITY OF THE PROPERTY IS I'D LIKE TO SPEND SOME TIME TALKING TO YOU ABOUT HOW WE GOT HERE AND WHY WE SEE THE WORLD, THE WAY THAT WE DO.

GUESS IT WAS ANOTHER CHAMBER AT THE TIME.

ROSE THE PLOT, THE PROJECT HERE.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THAT NOT ONLY REALLY HAS THERE BEEN NO COMMENT ABOUT THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT? WE DID WORK WITH STAFF AND CHANGED THE PROJECT QUITE A BIT TO COME UP WITH THE DESIGN THAT WE THOUGHT THEY COULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF.

UH, BUT THE, YOU WON'T FIND ANY NEIGHBORHOOD OPPOSITION TO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

HOWEVER, THERE IS OPPOSITION TO WHAT THE STAFF IS PROPOSING, NOT ONLY FROM US, BUT FROM OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS.

THIS SITE HAS BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME.

I'M GOING TO ASK BILL TO SPEAK.

UH, DURING PART OF THIS BILL HAS SPENT HALF HIS LIFE OVER HALF HIS LIFE, 40 YEARS ASSEMBLING THIS PIECE.

AND WE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT HERE IN 15 OR 20 MINUTES.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A REALLY EASY THING TO COMBINE AND ASSEMBLE.

AND THAT'S JUST NOT THE CASE.

IT'S NOT BEEN EASY TO DO.

IT'S BEEN A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID THIS EVENING, THAT SORT OF REFLECT WHAT THIS COUNCIL HAS TO DO, NOT IN JUSTICE CASE IN EVERY CASE, BUT THESE ARE THE CASES WHERE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, WHICH IS THE SEVEN OF YOU HAVE TO DECIDE THE CASE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE DON'T AGREE WITH STAFF.

THIS SITE HAS LOOKED PRETTY SIMILAR TO THIS FOR AN AWFULLY LONG TIME.

UM, BEFORE THAT IT LOOKED CONSIDERABLY WORSE.

AND YOU'LL HEAR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT FROM BILL, BUT THIS IS WHAT ARIZONA AVENUE LOOKS LIKE TODAY AND HAS FOR SOME TIME AND PROBABLY WOULD OTHERWISE WHERE SOMETIME, AND THIS IS AGAIN, ARIZONA AVENUE GATEWAY FROM THE FREEWAY TO LOTS OF OTHER THINGS.

IT'S A CHALLENGING PIECE FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.

AND YOU'VE HEARD THAT FROM STAFF AND WE DON'T DISAGREE.

IT IS CHALLENGING, AND IT IS IN SOME WAYS A BIT UNSIGHTLY.

WE SEE THAT AS A BIT OF AN ADVANTAGE.

AND I'LL EXPLAIN WHY ASIDE AS YOU'VE HEARD IS NOT TOO FAR FROM THE FREEWAY.

IT'S A CHALLENGING PIECE, REALLY SURROUNDED IN MANY WAYS.

OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND.

SO THE WEST ARIZONA AVENUE CREATES THAT BORDER, THE RAILROAD TO THE, EXCUSE ME, THE WEST, THERE WAS AN AVENUE TO THE EAST.

THE RAILROAD PROVIDES A PRETTY HARD CORRIDOR AS WELL AS SRP HAS AN EASEMENT THAT HE'S BEEN IT'S PRETTY RELEVANT AS WELL BECAUSE IT PROVIDES WATER.

THAT WATER IS WHY MOON VALLEY IS THERE.

AND NOT ANY NUMBER OF OTHER PLACES, BOTH CENTRAL STORAGE AND MOON VALLEY HAVE BEEN PRETTY CLEAR.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CHANDLER REQUIRES IS A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.

AND WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND DID THAT.

AND UNLIKE MOST CASES WHERE YOU GET FOLKS WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, WE HAD FOLKS FROM THREE OF THE SIDES COME TO US AND SAY, I HOPE THAT YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO MAKE US DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH OUR LAND BECAUSE WE HAVE NO INTEREST IN DOING THAT.

AND THAT CREATES FOR US A BIT OF A PROBLEM.

IT'S WONDERFUL TO TALK ABOUT ASSEMBLING A LARGER PROJECT.

AND THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION IN PREVIOUS HEARINGS SORT OF CHANGED SOME OVER TIME, BUT HAVING 75 ACRES AND DEVELOPING THAT INTO CLASS I OFFICE SPACE.

AND WE DON'T THINK THAT'S VERY REALISTIC FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS WHICH I'LL GET INTO.

IT'S ALSO WORTH POINTING OUT THAT THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN IN THE MARKET FOR SOME TIME, EVEN WITH THE EXISTING ZONING IN PLACE FOR EXACTLY THE THING THAT YOU'RE BEING TOLD WOULD BE MOST EFFECTIVE HERE.

UH, THE SIMPLE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IT HASN'T BEEN EFFECTIVE.

IT IS NOT A GOOD USE FOR THAT.

AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO EXPLAIN WHY THIS SITE DOES SOME SO NATURAL CHALLENGES.

UH, ONE OF THEM IS THE MOBILE HOME PARK, UH, IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST OF US AT ONE POINT IN CHANDLER'S HISTORY.

AND THEN I THINK THAT'S TRUE THROUGHOUT THE VALLEY MOBILE HOME COMMUNITIES, RV PARKS FOR TEMPORARY USES.

THERE WERE SOMETHING YOU COULD DO WITH PROPERTY UNTIL YOU COULD FIND A BETTER USE.

AND THAT'S JUST NOT TRUE ANYMORE.

THE VALUE OF MOBILE HOME COMMUNITIES HAS SKYROCKETED.

IT IS NOT REASONABLY FEASIBLE TO THINK THAT SOMEONE'S GOING TO PAY THE PRICES THEY PAY FOR THESE PARKS AND TO COME IN AND DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

AND FRANKLY, YOU'RE NOT LIKELY TO FIND GREAT BUSINESS USES THAT ARE ANXIOUS TO GO ACROSS THE STREET FROM A MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY, BUT IT DOESN'T END THERE.

AND IT'S, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF USES THAT ARE REALLY UNLIKELY TO EVER CHANGE.

ONE OF THEM IS THE REFUSE TRANSFER STATION.

AND THERE WAS A, I WAS HERE IN THIS, I

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BUT I REMEMBER WHEN THIS WENT THROUGH AND IT WAS A HIGHLY CONTESTED ISSUE.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS PEOPLE WERE SAYING AT THE TIME IS IF YOU PUT A REFUSED TRANSPORTATION HERE, IT'S NEVER GOING AWAY.

AND THAT'S PROBABLY TRUE.

SO WE HAVE A PIECE OF LAND HERE THAT WILL LIKELY FOREVER BE SORT OF BOUND BY MOBILE HOME COMMUNITIES AND A TRANSFER STATION.

AND STAFF HAS MADE THE ARGUMENT, WHICH I AGREE IS NOT PARTICULARLY SIGHTLY.

IT DOES BOX US IN AND IT BOXES US IN BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSES TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH OF US.

AND THOSE THINGS AREN'T LIKELY TO CHANGE.

IN FACT, THEY HAVE TOLD US TO NO UNCERTAIN TERMS THAT THEY HAVE NO DESIRE TO CHANGE THEIR USE.

THEY HAVE NO DESIRE TO ASSEMBLE.

IT TALKS ABOUT ASSEMBLAGE QUITE A BIT WITH THE CITY AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND I THINK IT'S WORTH POINTING OUT THAT THE PERSON WHO IS MOST INCENTIVIZED TO ASSEMBLE THIS LAND IS IN FACT, THE OWNER, IF HE COULD HAVE ASSEMBLED MORE PROPERTY OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS, HE ABSOLUTELY WOULD HAVE DONE IT.

IT WOULD HAVE PUT HIM IN A BETTER POSITION.

IT SIMPLY ISN'T POSSIBLE.

THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE OWNED THE LAND HAVE THEIR OWN BUSINESSES AND THEIR OWN PLANS.

AND THAT'S GENERALLY HOW IT WORKS.

IF YOU HAVE PROPERTY, YOU GENERALLY GET TO DO WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE UNLESS THE CITY COMES IN EMINENT DOMAIN AND SAID, WE'VE ASKED THIS THE CITY HAVE AN INTENTION TO COME AND EMINENT DOMAIN ADDITIONAL LANDS.

AND I GUESS THAT IS A QUESTION FOR YOU.

IF, IF THE CITY INTENDS TO TAKE ADDITIONAL PIECES AND DO IT THROUGH EMINENT DOMAIN, I GUESS THAT WOULD CHANGE THINGS.

AND YOU WOULD HAVE LARGER SWATHS OF LAND TO DO THINGS, BUT YOU'D STILL BE STUCK WITH THE SAME BOUNDARIES, THE SAME ISSUES OF A MOBILE HOME PARK ACROSS THE STREET AND A TRANSFER FACILITY AND OTHER PRETTY TIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES NEXT TO IT.

WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT GENERAL PLAN AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

UM, WE CERTAINLY HAVE, UH, FOCUSED ON THE GENERAL PLAN.

DO THAT A LITTLE MORE.

UM, I THINK IT'S WORTH TALKING ABOUT NEARBY HOUSING OPTIONS.

DON'T WANT TO SPEND A FEW MINUTES TALKING ABOUT THE IDEA THAT CHANDLER HAS, WHICH HAS BEEN, I THINK MICAH WAS QUITE RIGHT.

HE'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.

HE'S BEEN YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR SOME TIME, AND I THINK HE'S DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB BRINGING GREAT JOBS TO CHANDLER HE'S TO BE COMMENDED FOR IT.

IT DOESN'T MEAN I AGREE WITH THEM ALL THE TIME AND I DON'T AGREE WITH HIM IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE.

AND I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY, NOT JUST THE OVERARCHING GENERAL PHILOSOPHY, GENERALLY SPEAKING, IT'S GOOD TO USE PIECES TO BRING, UH, THE GREAT JOBS THAT INTEL IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT IS SYNONYMOUS, AT LEAST IN THE WEST WITH JANET BROUGHT GREAT JOBS TO CHANDLER.

AND I THINK THAT THEY HAVE BEEN PARKED AND RESPONSIBLE FOR SOME OF THE HIGH QUALITY OF LIVING WE HAVE IN CHANDLER.

UH, AND, AND ALL OF YOU, UH, FRANKLY, IT SHOULD BE COMMENDED AS WELL FOR, FOR HAVING THAT VISION.

BUT AGAIN, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT EVERY PROPERTY IS LOOKED AT EQUALLY AND CAN BE USED FOR THE SAME THING HERE.

WE'RE SAYING NOT ONLY IS THIS PIECE, NOT THAT KIND OF PIECE, BUT THERE ARE OTHER NEEDS AS WELL THAT SUPPORT IT.

AND I THINK FROM THE OTHER THINGS WE HEARD FROM, FROM YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR IS THAT THE, THE OFFICE ENVIRONMENT HAS CHANGED.

AND THE THINGS THAT BRING PEOPLE TO OFFICE HAVE CHANGED AS WELL.

IT SEEMS THAT ROUGHLY 20 TO 30% OF THE PEOPLE AT SOME OF THE COMPANIES, WE'RE VERY PROUD OF ACTUALLY LIVE IN CHAIRMAN.

AND, UH, IT'S FRANKLY, A TOUGH THING TO FIND A PLACE TO LIVE IN SHANNON.

THE TOP PART OF TOWN IN PARTICULAR AND CHANDLER IN PARTICULAR, THE RENTAL RATES ARE 3% THEY CAN SEE, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE ARE ALMOST NO APARTMENTS TO RENT.

IF YOU WANT TO RENT, YOU'RE LUCKY TO FIND A PLACE.

IF YOU WANT TO BUY A HOME IN CHANDLER, GOOD LUCK.

THERE AREN'T MANY FOR SALE.

AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE STATISTIC I HEARD MOST RECENTLY IS THAT IF THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 200 HOMES FOR SALE AND, AND, UH, LOOKING AT ONES THAT ARE UNDER 300,000, THAT NUMBER DROPS TO ABOUT 20 TO 30, DEPENDING ON THE DAY.

AND WE KEEP BRINGING IN JOBS AND THOSE JOBS WOULD LIKE TO BE HOUSED NEAR THEIR JOBS.

AND SOME OF THEM ARE TEMPORARY JOBS.

WE'VE HOSPITALS ARE COMING TO TOWN AND THEY, FOR EXAMPLE, HAVE BEEN PRETTY CLEAR THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DO IS HIRE TRAVELING NURSES AND THERE AREN'T PLACES FOR THOSE PEOPLE TO LIVE IN CHANDLER AND NEAR THE MEDICAL FACILITIES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO OPERATE AS WE LOOK MORE INTO THE GENERAL PLAN.

AND I THINK, UH, I THINK IT WAS COUNCILMAN ORLANDO THAT I MENTIONED, OR MAYBE IT WAS SOMEBODY ELSE, IS THIS A HIGH TRAFFIC, HIGH CAPACITY TRANSIT CORRIDOR? IT CERTAINLY IS.

AND THAT CERTAINLY GIVES YOU A REASON AS YOU HEARD IN THE OTHER CASE.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU POINTING OUT.

WE CERTAINLY HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE OF LISTENING TO, UM, THE OTHER CASE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TIMES, AND THAT'S SORT OF HOW IT WORKS.

WE FOLLOW THE SAME PATH.

AND SO WE'VE LISTED IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WE'VE LISTENED TO THEM, UH, HERE IN THIS CHAMBER.

AND WE CERTAINLY WONDER THE SAME THING.

W HOW IS IT THAT THE SAME PHILOSOPHY WORKS AGAINST US AND FOR US ON DIFFERENT CASES.

AND, AND FRANKLY, YOU'LL HEAR FROM BILL AND FRANKLY, IT DOESN'T SEEM FAIR TO BILL WHO'S ON THE PROPERTY FOR 40 YEARS, BUT WE'LL GET MORE

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INTO THAT AS THIS MOVES ON, BUT THE HIGH-CAPACITY TRANSIT QUARTERS ARE APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT, HIGH INTENSITY MIXED USE FIXED LAND USES SUCH DEVELOPMENTS WOULD CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR LIVING WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE FOR SCHOOL STORES AND RESTAURANTS.

IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT THIS AREA HAS A BUNCH OF RESTAURANTS.

ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HEARD ABOUT THE OTHER LOCATION IS IT MIGHT HELP SUPPORT RETAIL.

WELL, IT'S CERTAINLY WORTH NOTING THAT THIS LOCATION IS, UH, JUST ABOUT A MILE SOUTH OF THE DOWNTOWN COVID IN PARTICULAR HAS BEEN HARD ON RESTAURANTS, BUT AT ANY POINT IN TIME, RESTAURANTS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE RESIDENTS WHO COULD SPEND THEIR DISCRETIONARY INCOME, I GUESS, IN TWO WAYS, THAT GETS TO MY NEXT POINT.

WHY WOULD WE THINK THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT I ACKNOWLEDGE HAS WORKED? I ACKNOWLEDGE IT IS NOT THE MOST ATTRACTIVE PIECE OF LAND.

WHY, WHY WOULD THAT MAKE SENSE TO US? WELL, WE DON'T THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO CLASS I OFFICE USER, BECAUSE FRANKLY IT'S UNSIGHTLY.

AND IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE STORY, YOU CERTAINLY DO NOT WANT TO BE TRYING TO LEASE SPACE, LOOKING OVER A REFUSE TRANSFER FACILITY, BUT FOR US, WE SEE IT DIFFERENTLY.

UM, WE THINK THERE IS A NEED, UH, THIS COUNCIL AND OTHERS.

IN FACT, THERE ARE SOME ARTICLES RECENTLY IN NEWSPAPER, UH, REFERRING SPECIFICALLY TO CHANNEL AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE.

THERE'S ANOTHER DISCUSSION TO BE HAD ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND THERE ARE SOME OF THE MOST AMAZING HOUSES IN CHANDLER THAT ANYWHERE IN THE VALLEY, UH, BUT THERE'S ALSO A BUNCH IN BETWEEN.

AND WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING IS WORKFORCE HOUSING.

AND I THINK THAT WE ALL HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW OF WHAT THAT MEANS TODAY.

I THINK BEFORE MARCH, WE ALL THOUGHT DIFFERENTLY ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE SERVING US ON A REGULAR BASIS, THE ESSENTIAL WORKERS, AND THEY NEED PLACES TO LIVE TOO.

AND THE PEOPLE WHO WORK DOWNTOWN NEED PLACES TO LIVE, AND THE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE HOSPITALS NEED PLACES TO LIVE.

AND WE THINK THAT NO ONE IS GOING TO END UP IN OUR APARTMENT BY ACCIDENT.

THEY'RE RENTING, THEY'RE ON PURPOSE.

THEY'RE RENTING THERE BECAUSE THEY CAN AFFORD THE RENTING THERE BECAUSE THEY LIKED THE QUALITY OF THE UNITS.

AND BECAUSE OF THE, THE LOCATION IS A LITTLE LESS DESIRABLE.

AND BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE STRUCTURE PARKING, WE CAN DO IT AT A DIFFERENT RATE.

WE CAN DO IT IN A MORE AFFORDABLE WAY SO WE CAN PROVIDE THAT WORKFORCE HOUSING, BUT THEY'RE DOING IT KNOWING THEY WANT TO BE IN CHANDLER.

THEY WANT TO BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

THEY WANT TO BE DOWNTOWN HAVING DRINKS AND MAYBE TAKING UBER HOME OR, OR RIDING A BIKE HOME, HAVING DINNER, GOING FOR A JOG ON A SATURDAY MORNING AND, AND USING THE AMENITIES OF DOWNTOWN.

AND SO WE THINK THAT THESE RESIDENTS BECOME NOT ONLY INTEGRAL PARTS OF THE DOWNTOWN, BUT ALSO THAT VERY BUSINESS COMMUNITY THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT.

I AGREE WITH MICAH, THAT AS YOU GET CLOSER TO THE AIRPORT, YOU CAN FIND SOME GREAT LOCATIONS FOR COMPANIES TO DO GREAT BUSINESSES.

AND MIKE HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING YOU THOSE BUSINESSES, IN FACT, SO SUCCESSFUL THAT IT, IT STRIKES ME AS A LITTLE BIT ODD THAT FOR NEARLY 15 YEARS, THIS SITE HAS BEEN OPEN AVAILABLE IN ZONE AND NOT UTILIZED IN ANY WAY FOR THE, FOR THE VERY USE THAT YOUR STAFF HOPES IT WILL BE.

AND I WILL TELL YOU, AND BILL WILL TELL YOU THAT THEY HAD A PROJECT.

THE PROJECT THAT WAS ZONED SPENT NEARLY $2 MILLION ON THE PROJECT BEFORE THEY REALIZED IT JUST WASN'T FEASIBLE.

IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT A GREAT SITE FOR WHAT WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE.

AND JUST THAT'S THE WAY THINGS WORK SOMETIMES IN LIFE.

THE TRANSITIONAL EMPLOYMENT CORRIDOR IS ALSO PART OF THE PLAN.

AND THIS IS LOCATED BETWEEN ARIZONA AVENUE AND THE UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD, THIS SITE SPECIFICALLY.

AND I WANT TO READ THIS PART BECAUSE I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THIS AREA, AND THIS IS A DIRECT FROM THE CODE OR FROM THE GENERAL PLAN.

THIS AREA IS UNIQUE IN THE EMPLOYMENT DESIGNATION, BECAUSE IT IS CHARACTERIZED BY A MIX OF LAND USES, INCLUDING INDUSTRIAL INSTITUTIONAL RECREATIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN A RANGE OF RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES EVERETT.

THE EVERGREEN SITE HERE IS OBVIOUSLY A MIX OF USES.

YOU'VE HEARD THAT BEFORE A COMPATIBLE MIX OF LAND USE IS MAKING TENUE TO BE CONSIDERED.

WE READ THAT AGAIN, COMPATIBLE MIX OF LAND USE HAS MAY CONTINUE TO BE CONSIDERED WITHIN THE CORRIDORS EMPLOYMENT DESIGNATION.

THE APPROPRIATE LAND USE MIX WILL CONSIDER CONDITIONS SUCH AS ADJACENT USES PARCEL SIZE AND TRANSITIONING TECHNIQUES AS PRESENTED IN ANY PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT REQUEST TO BE DETERMINED, TO DETERMINE COMPATIBILITY.

WELL, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING THIS COUNCIL TO DO.

IT'S, IT'S LITERALLY THE THING THAT IS IN THE GENERAL PLAN THAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO.

WE ARE ASKING YOU TO TAKE A LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT THIS CHALLENGING PIECE OF LAND.

THIS PIECE OF LAND THAT WE THINK HAS NO OTHER REASONABLE USE AND TO ALLOW RESIDENTIAL.

AND WE KNOW THAT THE MINI STORAGE PEOPLE DON'T CARE.

IN FACT, THEY, NOBODY HAS AN OBJECTION TO IT, OR YOU'D SEE THEM HERE IN THE CHAMBERS, BUT THE MINI STORAGE PEOPLE ACTUALLY SEE US AS A GREAT USER BECAUSE FRANKLY, SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS WILL PROBABLY BE THEIR CLIENTS.

THE NURSERY, LIKEWISE DOESN'T WANT TO LEAVE.

IT WOULD BE ECONOMICALLY FOOLISH

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FOR THEM TO DO SO.

AND THEY'RE QUITE CLEAR ABOUT THAT, BUT FOR US, HAVING A NURSERY IS SORT OF A UNIQUE, NOVEL, GREAT USE IT'S NEXT TO US.

AGAIN, PEOPLE KNOW WHERE THEY'RE MOVING, BUT IT'S, IT'S CERTAINLY NOT IN CONFLICT TO LIVE NEXT TO TREES.

IT'S ACTUALLY CONSIDERED A WONDERFUL THING.

AND YOU'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE AIRPORT.

UM, I DON'T WANT TO SPEND TOO MUCH TIME IN THIS.

AND OF COURSE, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE TO US.

WE'RE HAPPY TO GO BACK AND ANSWER QUESTIONS AT ANY OF THE THINGS.

IF YOU THINK WE'VE LOST OVER SOMETHING, BUT WE DID GO TO THE AIRPORT COMMISSION.

AND I GUESS THE FIRST THING THAT WE THOUGHT WAS, WELL, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AWFULLY FAR AWAY AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WHY AND A HALF AWAY YOU MIGHT A QUARTER AWAY AS THE CROW FLIES MUCH FURTHER BY, UM, BY STREET.

AND I THINK, UM, COUNCILMAN YOUR QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS A BUSINESS ISSUE OR A SAFETY ISSUE, AN AIRPORT OPERATIONS ISSUE WAS A GOOD ONE, BECAUSE WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THE AIRPORT WAS A NUMBER OF THINGS.

FIRST OF ALL, THERE ARE AN AWFUL LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT ARE WAY CLOSER TO US THAT ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED IN THIS.

AND SO YOU'VE SORT OF HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TEST OUT WHETHER IT'S A PROBLEM.

AND WE HEARD FROM THE AIRPORT DIRECTOR WHO OBVIOUSLY WAS NOT FAVORABLE TO THE PROJECT, BUT IT ANSWERED A QUESTION.

HE MENTIONED THAT HE'D NEVER HEARD A COMPLAINT FROM A MULTIFAMILY USER.

NEVERTHELESS, THERE ARE CONDITIONS DRAFTED.

AND IF YOU WERE TO ACCEPT THOSE CONDITIONS, THEY REQUIRE US TO NOTIFY USERS.

AND WE WOULD CERTAINLY DO THAT SO THAT EVERYONE WOULD KNOW THAT THEY WERE IN AN AIRPORT AREA.

WE OF COURSE THINK THEY WOULD KNOW THAT ANYWAY, BUT WE HAVE NO PROBLEM NOTIFYING PEOPLE.

IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT PRETTY FAR OUT THE PATH OF SOUND.

WE'RE REALLY NOT IN THE AIRPORT CORE.

AND WE MAY BE IN THE PLAN, BUT AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, WE'RE PRETTY FAR OUTSIDE OF IT.

AGAIN, YOU'VE HEARD NO CONCERN FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THIS AND YOU HAVEN'T ALSO HEARD CONCERN FROM ANY OF THE DEPARTMENTS OR, UH, ANY OF THEM THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT IN FOR SOME TIME THAT ARE MUCH CLOSER.

I DO WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT SORT OF WHERE WE FALL IN LIFE IN TERMS OF RENT.

AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS CONCEPT OF WORKFORCE HOUSING, AND I KNOW THAT EVERY ONE OF YOU IS FAMILIAR WITH IT.

I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE TO GRASP GRAPPLE WITH ON A REGULAR BASIS IS HOW DO YOU BALANCE THAT? HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE THERE ARE PLACES FOR EVERYONE? WELL, I THINK I'VE TOLD YOU SOME OF THE REASONS WHY IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO LESS DESIRABLE LOCATION IN TERMS OF OUR SURROUNDINGS.

WE THINK THAT MAKES IT PRETTY UNINVITING FOR MOST USES, BUT NOT FOR US BECAUSE IT GIVES US A PRICE ADVANTAGE.

I THINK YOU'VE HEARD THAT OUR CONSTRUCTION TYPE IS DIFFERENT.

WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE STORY BUILDING.

WE HAVE A THREE STORY BUILDING, WHICH WE THINK ACTUALLY FITS WELL WITH EXISTING USES.

AND WE DON'T HAVE A PARKING STRUCTURE WHICH HAD A LOT OF COSTS TO A BUILDING.

AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS, AND AGAIN, THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT UNFAMILIAR WITH.

UH, THERE HAVE BEEN ARTICLES FOR SOME TIME IN THE PAPER DISCUSSING EXACTLY THIS ISSUE.

IT DOESN'T FACE JUST CHANDLER.

IT FACES THE ENTIRE VALLEY, BUT OBVIOUSLY CHANDLER HAS BEEN SORT OF THE CENTER OF THAT DISCUSSION FROM TIME TO TIME.

WORKFORCE HOUSING, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, IS ROUGHLY BETWEEN 80 AND 120% OF AMI AND OUR RENTS ARE FORECASTED TO BE IN THAT RANGE.

IT'S NOT BY ACCIDENT ON PURPOSE.

WE THINK THAT'S A NICHE THAT FRANKLY IS NOT SERVED IN ANYWHERE NEAR THE DOWNTOWN.

THERE, THERE ISN'T PRODUCT THAT DOES WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING TO DO IN OUR OPINION NOW.

YUP.

WE'RE BUSINESS PEOPLE.

IF WE DIDN'T THINK THIS WAS SUCCESSFUL, WE WOULDN'T PROPOSE IT AGAIN.

YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR RENTS CLEARLY FALL WITHIN THAT 80 TO 120% OF AMI.

AND AGAIN, THAT ISN'T AN ACCIDENT IT'S ON PURPOSE.

WHAT THAT MEANS IN REAL TERMS IS THAT WE, WE ARE LESS EXPENSIVE THAN THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE DOWNTOWN, OR WE'RE NOT TRYING TO COMPETE WITH THEM.

NOW, HAVING SAID THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS NICE IN A VERY DIFFERENT WAY, DESPITE THE LOCATION AND THE LACK OF STRUCTURED PARKING, WE DO HAVE SOME GARAGES.

WE HAVE A GATED FACILITY, UH, THE INTERIOR, THE UNITS, AND THE AMENITIES ARE THE SAME.

AS YOU MIGHT FIND, WE HAVE POOLS AND OTHER AMENITIES.

WE HAVE SOLID SURFACE COUNTERTOPS.

SO THE INSIDE OF THE UNIT, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY WHERE OUR RESIDENTS WILL LIVE IS SIMILAR TO THE OUTSIDE OF THE UNIT.

LOCATION IS LESS DESIRABLE.

THAT MEANS THAT NECESSARILY IT'S A REDUCED PRICE.

AND AGAIN, WE THINK THAT THE COMPANIES THAT CHANDLER SO COVETS AND RIGHTFULLY SO NEED, THEY HAVE EMPLOYEES WHO NEED HOUSING, AND WE THINK WE CAN HELP FILL THAT NICHE.

PARTICULARLY WITH THE HOSPITALS COMING ONLINE SHORTLY, THEY HAVE SIGNIFICANT NEED FOR EMPLOYEES AND SIGNIFICANT NEED FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES TO LIVE SOMEWHERE.

I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LANDSCAPING BECAUSE THAT'S COME UP FROM TIME TO TIME AS WELL.

NOT PARTICULARLY ON THIS CASE, BUT I CERTAINLY HAVE HEARD IT ON OTHER CASES IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS.

AND SO I WANT TO POINT OUT OUR DENSITY IS

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22 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN SOME OF THE CASES YOU'VE HEARD.

AGAIN, THAT'S A DIFFERENCE IN THE CONSTRUCTION TYPE, BUT WE'VE MADE SURE THAT WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT LANDSCAPING IN PART, BECAUSE WE'RE NEXT TO A NURSERY AND THAT WE'RE TYING IN AGAIN, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER THE SURROUNDINGS.

AND SO SHOULD WE.

AND SO WE HAVE ADDED A DETACHED SIDEWALK WITH ANOTHER ROW OF TREES AND THEN ANOTHER ROW OF LANDSCAPING.

AND WE THINK THAT MAKES FOR, YOU KNOW, VERY, UM, INVITING ENVIRONMENT ALONG ARIZONA AVENUE AND COMPARE THAT TO WHAT EXISTS TODAY.

AND I'M SURE IF I HADN'T SHOWN YOU THE SLIDE, EVERY ONE OF YOU WOULD KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY.

AND I AM SURE THAT WHEN YOU DRIVE BY THAT, THAT IS NOT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKE YOU PROUD OF CHANNELING, BUT IT COULD BE.

AND SO WE HAVE PROVIDED LANDSCAPING THAT WOULD, WE THINK BE REALLY IMPACTFUL.

NOW I'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND WHY IT MAKES SENSE.

I HAVE A FEW POINTS I WANT TO TIE BACK IN, BUT BECAUSE WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ASSEMBLY TODAY AND BECAUSE STAFF HAS BEEN PUSHING US TO ASSEMBLE MORE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HEAR FROM BILL, BILL.

I WANT YOU TO COME UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF, AND I WANT YOU TO TALK ABOUT YOUR HISTORY, NOT ONLY HERE IN CHANDLER, BUT AS IT RELATES TO THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, BECAUSE YOU'RE THE OWNER.

THANK YOU, MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

I APPRECIATE BEING HERE FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

I EXCUSE ME, THEN YOU STATE YOUR NAME, JUST PLEASE.

MY NAME IS WILLIAM VALENTIC AND I LIVE IN CHANDLER AND EDEN THE STAGE OFF OF, UH, ALMA SCHOOL ROAD.

I'VE, UH, BEEN A RESIDENT IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA FOR ABOUT 12 YEARS NOW, UH, WAS RAISED AT THE CORNER OF RAY AND PRICE ROAD.

GOING BACK TO WHERE I WAS THREE YEARS OF AGE, I'VE SEEN THIS ENTIRE AREA GROW.

UH, I'VE SPENT MOST OF MY LIFE HERE, WHICH I JUST TURNED 75.

UM, I, ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS WHAT I FIND IS INTERESTING.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATED THE COMMENT THAT YOU MADE ABOUT CONSIDERING THE PIECE OF PROPERTY.

ONE SET OF RULES DOESN'T FIT EVERY SITUATION.

THIS PROPERTY IS UNIQUE FOR SOME OF THE REASONS ALREADY POINTED OUT BECAUSE OF THE NEIGHBORS WHERE IT IS, BUT IN 1980 OR 81, MY SISTERS AND I PURCHASED THE FIRST PIECE OF PROPERTY THINKING THAT WOULD BE A GREAT INVESTMENT BECAUSE IT WAS SO NARROW AND LONG, NOT HARDLY ANYTHING COULD BE DONE WITH IT DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH OF IT.

THERE WERE TWO PARCELS.

THERE ARE A TOTAL OF SEVEN THAT COMPRISES PEACE.

THE GENTLEMAN THAT HAD THAT A YOUNG MAN BY THE NAME OF WINFREY WAS KILLED IN AN AUTOMOBILE ACCIDENT.

HE WAS TRYING TO BUILD A NURSERY THERE.

IT WAS IN FORECLOSURE.

I THOUGHT, WELL, WE NEED MORE WIDTH.

I'LL BUY IT.

SUBSEQUENT TO THAT.

MY SISTER ACQUIRED FIVE ACRES, EXACTLY.

EAST OF THE LAST TWO PIECES THAT I HAD PURCHASED, WHICH GAVE US KIND OF A SQUARE PARCEL IN 2017, THE PARCEL DIRECTLY TO MY SOUTH, UH, WHICH IS NEXT TO, UH, MOON VALLEY.

UH, THE GENTLEMAN THAT OWNED THAT MR. PEDERSEN, UH, HAD CANCER.

YEAH, I THINK HE'S, HE'S PASSED AWAY SINCE THEN, BUT HAD IT, I WAS AFRAID THAT SOMEONE WOULD COME IN AND BUY THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY AND PUT IT TO SOME USE THAT WOULD DIMINISH THE ATTRACTIVENESS OF THE PARCEL, WHICH I I HAD AT THE TIME.

UH, AND, AND SO I DIDN'T WANT THAT VALUE DIMINISHED BECAUSE OF THAT.

BUT MY TIES TO THE ASSEMBLAGE OF THIS PROPERTY GOES BACK 40 YEARS.

UH, THE DIFFERENT PARCELS THAT WE ACQUIRE, THE INSIGHTFULNESS OF THEM, UH, THREE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS, STRUCTURES HAD BEEN REMOVED.

COUPLE OF SHEDS, A GREAT DEAL OF CLEANUP HAS TAKEN PLACE TO THIS TO MAKE IT THE PARCEL THAT IS TODAY.

NOW IN CONSIDERING THE COMMENT ABOUT CONSIDERING EACH PARCEL AS IT EXISTS, THE QUESTION IS, IT'S NOT LIKE THIS PROPERTY JUST CAME ON THE MARKET AND EVERGREEN IS THE FIRST INDIVIDUAL OR THE FIRST ENTITY THAT CAME DOWN AND THOUGHT, HEY, WE'D LIKE TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT.

IT'S BEEN AVAILABLE SINCE I'VE OWNED.

IT, IT'S BEEN AVAILABLE FOR 40 YEARS.

UH, STAFF PRESENTED A DIAGRAM OF THE USE THAT, UH, UH, A REZONING APPLICATION BACK IN 2008, WE WENT INTO ESCROW IN 2006 WITH ADOBE LAND.

AGAIN, AFTER INVESTING APPROXIMATELY $2 MILLION IN THE PROJECT, THEY PULLED THE PLUG ON IT.

IT'S NOT FEASIBLE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.

SO HOW LONG DO WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR A GOOD USE OF THIS PROPERTY TO BECOME, UH, AVAILABLE? WELL, MY CONCERN AND MY INTERESTS WITH EVERGREEN, THEY HAVE A NICE PROJECT FOR THIS PROPERTY.

AND IT'S NOT LIKE BY UTILIZING THE PROPERTY FOR THEIR PROJECT, THAT IT'S GOING TO KNOCK

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OUT.

UH, OTHER USES THAT ARE WAITING IN LINE FOR IT.

THERE ARE NO OTHERS AT THIS TIME.

AND IT'S BEEN THAT MANY YEARS, 40 YEARS TO GET THIS THING TO A SHAPE WHERE PERHAPS SOMEBODY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT.

THEY HAVE A NICE PROJECT, ANOTHER POINT THAT I WOULD MAKE WHILE I'M HERE.

IF I CAN, ORIGINALLY THE TAX BILLS CAME OUT ON THIS, THERE ARE SEVEN DIFFERENT PARCELS, $24,000 OVER 24,000 A YEAR, PROPERTY TAXES ON IT.

WE'VE BEEN PAYING THESE TYPES OF TAXES ON IT FOR 40 YEARS.

HOW MANY MORE YEARS UNTIL SOMETHING CAN BE DONE WITH THE PROPERTY? UH, MY FEELING IS THAT THE HIGHEST AND THE BEST USE OF THE PROPERTY IS BEING REPRESENTED HERE TODAY.

THERE'S A USER THAT CAN DO SOMETHING WITH IT THAT WILL BUILD A PROJECT THAT CHANDLER CAN BE PROUD OF.

IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE COMING IN.

AND BY UTILIZING THIS PROPERTY, WE ARE CONTAMINATING.

IF YOU WILL, THE POTENTIAL USES FOR THE OTHER SURROUNDING PROPERTY, THERE ARE NO OTHER USES FOR THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY EXCEPT WHAT IT'S BEING USED FOR TODAY.

THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT.

CHANDLER WOULD BE PROUD OF IT.

AND CERTAINLY TO SUPPORT, WE TALK ABOUT, UH, CREATING JOBS.

WHAT ABOUT SUPPORTING THE JOBS THAT ALREADY EXIST IN THOSE COMMERCIAL CENTERS? THEY'RE ON THE CORNER OF, OF WILLIS ROAD AND ARIZONA AVENUE.

GOING BACK TO THE FREEWAY, WE HAVE WINNCO UH, KOHL'S I THINK I REFERRED TO IT ONE TIME AS TARGET.

I THINK THE NAME CHANGE YOU GO ACROSS THE STREET SAM'S CLUB CLOSED UP BECAUSE OF LACK OF PARTICIPATION FROM, UH, DIFFERENT, UH, UH, INDIVIDUALS THAT COULD, COULD UTILIZE THAT FACILITY.

WE HAVE EXISTING BUSINESSES THERE.

NOW THAT NEEDS SUPPORT.

THIS IS A GREAT AREA FOR THAT.

AND AGAIN, IT'S A PROJECT THAT THE CITY OF CHANDLER WILL BE PROUD OF IF PERMITTED TO BE BUILT.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTION FOR ME, WHICH I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.

LET ME THINK.

I THINK THE HISTORY OF THE BILL PRESENTS IS, IS IMPORTANT.

I THINK IT HELPS TELL THE STORY ABOUT HOW WE GOT HERE, BUT I ALSO THINK IT HELPS TELL THE STORY ABOUT WHERE WE GO.

WE CAN, WE CAN TALK THEORETICALLY ABOUT WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN AND WHETHER THIS MIGHT BE A CLASS, A OFFICE SPACE, OR WHETHER SOMEBODY MIGHT COME AND RE ENVISION A PIECE OF INDUSTRIAL LAND THAT WAS THERE.

BUT BILL'S BEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR 40 YEARS ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, TRYING TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN.

AND THAT'S A REAL QUESTION FOR YOU.

AS WE ASK YOU TO MAKE DECISIONS, WE REALIZE THIS IS A TOUGH DECISION TO MAKE, BUT PART OF THE DISCUSSION IS W WHAT IS IT THAT BILL DOES IF HE CAN'T DO THIS? BECAUSE FOR 40 YEARS, MORE THAN HALF HIS LIFE, HE HAS WORKED TO MAKE THIS PROPERTY.

SOMETHING IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

NOW YOU, YOU HAVE RESPONSIBILITY TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A GOOD DECISION, BUT OUR ARGUMENT IS THAT THIS LAND HAS NOT BEEN GOOD FOR OTHER USES.

IF IT HAD BEEN IT'S ALREADY ZONED, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN USED.

AS BILL SAID, WE DON'T TAKE AWAY THE ABILITY FOR YOU TO DO OTHER THINGS, BUT WE ALSO DON'T REQUIRE YOU TO TAKE AWAY THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE THAT ARE SUCCESSFUL, PARTICULARLY MOON VALLEY, TO MAKE SOMETHING BIGGER AND BETTER OF IT.

THIS PIECE OF LAND WILL ALWAYS HAVE CHALLENGES.

IT'S WHY THE CODE ITSELF ALLOWS YOU TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS.

IT'S WHY THE GENERAL PLAN ITSELF ALLOWS YOU TO CONSIDER THE ADDITIONAL USE OF SURROUNDING IT.

IT'S WHY IT EVEN TALKS ABOUT RESIDENTIAL USES ARE OUR ASK OF YOU IS TO ACCEPT THAT THIS PIECE OF LAND WORKS AS RESIDENTIAL AND THAT BILL DOESN'T HAVE TO SPEND THE REST OF HIS LIFE, HOPING THAT SOMEBODY WILL COME ALONG AND PUT SOMETHING IN THAT PIECE THAT FRANKLY DOESN'T FIT.

BECAUSE THE OTHER USES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE DON'T FIT, OR THEY WOULDN'T, IT WOULD HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED.

AND SO WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE QUESTIONS.

I KNOW THEY ARE.

YOU'VE SAID, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY QUESTIONS.

LET ME START WITH A QUESTION.

UM, YOU'VE MENTIONED YOUR, YOUR 40 YEAR INVESTMENT OR CHARLES.

I THINK YOU CAN ANSWER THIS RATHER THAN, UH, HOW LONG HAS THIS, THIS ACREAGE BEN ASSEMBLED YOUR 40 YEARS STARTED THIS PROCESS, BUT HOW LONG WAS THE LAST PIECE? UH, SO I THINK, I THINK BILL ANSWERED THAT AND I'LL KIND OF GO BACK OVER IT AND I THINK I CAN FIND A SLIDE THAT SPEAKS TO IT.

IT HAS BEEN IN DIFFERENT STAGES AS HE HAS TRIED TO FIND USES.

UM, SPECIFICALLY, SO SPECIFICALLY THIS EIGHTH GRADE JAZZ, THE RECTANGLE THAT IT IS, HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN ASSEMBLED? WILLIAM, MAYBE YOU COULD.

SO THIS, THIS PIECE ON THE BOTTOM, UH, IS YOU CAN SEE ONE SECOND AND I'LL BRING YOU UP THE C3.

AND THE AG PIECE IS A PIECE THAT HAS, HAS MORE RECENTLY COME IN.

THAT'S HOW MANY YEARS? 2017.

THAT SIMPLE QUESTION.

SO I WANTED TO KNOW, THANK YOU, COUNSEL, WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE FOR THE APPLICANT COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART.

THE, THE PAD ITSELF IS, UM, WHAT'S THAT ZONED? IS IT ALL THE PAD ITSELF? THE NORTHERN PORTION IS IN FACT A PAD.

THANK YOU, MR. HUMANA.

I APPRECIATE IT, BILL.

AND THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

UM,

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THAT'S WHAT IT SOUND.

EVERYBODY LOVES ARIZONA AVENUE.

AND SO IT'S GOT AN INDUSTRIAL USE ON IT.

THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, ALMOST 15 YEARS.

WE'VE BEEN UNABLE TO FIND ANYBODY WHO WILL DO ANYTHING WITH IT.

I THINK ONE OF THE POINTS THAT PHIL HAS MADE SEVERAL TIMES, I DON'T THINK HE'S MADE IT TONIGHT IS THAT HE HAS HAD PEOPLE COME AND ASK HIM TO DO SOMETHING WITH A VERY NARROW PIECE ALONG ARIZONA AVENUE.

WE DO TWO PROBLEM WITH THIS PIECE IS WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE REST OF IT? IT'S A VERY THIN, LONG PIECE, AND YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET ACCESS ON THE EAST SIDE OF IT.

SO YOUR ACCESS WILL ALWAYS BE ON ARIZONA AVENUE.

AND THE ONLY REAL INTERESTS HE'S EVER GOTTEN ARE JUST THE PIECES ALONG ARIZONA AVENUE, BUT THEN IT DESTROYS YOUR ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE BULK OF THE PROPERTY.

IS THAT, IS THAT FAIR? OKAY.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT DOES IT JUST, YOU KNOW, I GET IT, LIKE, IT WOULD BE CHALLENGING TO PAY 40 YEARS OF PROPERTY TAXES FOR, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PAYING INTO SOMETHING YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY GETTING SERVICES FOR OTHER THAN, UM, YOU'RE SITTING ON THE LAND, IT'S AN INVESTMENT, BUT I'M JUST INTERESTED IN, I'M JUST CURIOUS AND IT'S PROBABLY FOR A CONVERSATION ANOTHER TIME, WHY THERE'S NEVER BEEN THE ATTEMPT TO REZONE IT TO AG, BUT KEEPING THE AREA PLAN AND THE, AND THE GENERAL PLAN IN PLACE, UM, THAT WOULD SAVE THE APPLICANT, UH, THOSE TAXES.

BUT, UM, THAT'S PROBABLY, I THINK IT'S HIS STRONG HOPE FOR CHANDLER AND BELIEFS THAT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING SOONER.

I DON'T THINK THAT WHEN HE STARTED THIS 40 YEARS AGO, I KNOW BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS THAT HE THOUGHT IT WOULD TAKE 40 YEARS.

I MEAN, IT'S INTERESTING.

WE TALKED ABOUT A FORMER MAYOR WAS HERE.

IT WAS GOOD TO SEE HIM, UH, TODAY AND TALKING ABOUT THE BOND ELECTION AND ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED AND KIND OF THINKING ABOUT THAT THE NEW CITY HALL AND I'LL DO THE THINGS, BUT KNOW, 40 YEARS AGO, THERE WASN'T A FREEWAY THERE.

IN FACT, WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THERE WOULD BE A FREEWAY THERE.

SO WHEN BILL STARTED THIS PROCESS, IT WAS BEFORE THERE WAS A FREEWAY.

I WOULD ARGUE.

HE IS CERTAINLY ONE OF THE EARLY BELIEVERS IN DOWNTOWN CHANDLER ON THE AIRPORT AREA.

AND, UM, HE'S CERTAINLY SEEN IT ALL GROW.

AND I, IF, IF I GAVE HIM AN HOUR HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT, I GUARANTEE YOU YOU'D TELL YOU SOME STORIES.

YOU'D LOVE, CANCEL ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

BUT FRANKLY PROBABLY CAN'T AFFORD TO, UH, HAVE WE DONE IT BEFORE? YES.

NUMBER ORLANDO.

AND THANK YOU MIRROR.

SO, UM, I BELIEVE AND CORRECT ME, I'M WRONG, YOU AND OTHER, UH, UM, BUSINESS LEADERS OR, YOU KNOW, REPRESENT CLIENTS AND BEEN INVOLVED WITH SEVERAL ARBOR DISCUSSIONS OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF ON PLANNING, ZONING, AND OUR THOUGHT PROCESS ON WHERE WE WANT TO GO WITH THIS COMMUNITY.

I THINK YOU WERE HERE THE LAST TIME WE CHATTED ABOUT THIS.

I KNOW A COUPLE WORK, AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, OUR DESIRE WHERE WE WANT TO GO AS A COMMUNITY.

AND I KNOW STAFF IS WORKING ON THE ELEMENTS TO MAKE THIS VISION A REALITY.

SO YOU YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF THE DISCUSSIONS AND ONE OF DISCUSSION, AT LEAST I HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING, AND I KNOW OTHERS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT LEAST TWO OR THREE TIMES IS WORKFORCE HOUSING, UH, DOWNSIZE HOUSING, UM, NEW, NEW, NEW HOUSING FOR PEOPLE JUST GETTING STARTED.

IT'S NOT JUST A CITY OF CHANDLER ISSUE.

IT'S VALLEY WIDE QUICK IS NATIONWIDE.

SO I WANT TO DRILL DOWN A LITTLE BIT ON THIS, THIS BUSINESS MODEL, UM, WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE RE THESE RENTS ARE, ARE, ARE THAT'S YOUR BUSINESS MODEL, WHICH IS GOOD.

IF YOU FOUND THE NICHE.

I, I LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT OTHER DEVELOPMENTS YOU'VE PUT IN PLACE.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, YOU AND I KNOW EACH OTHER MANY, MANY YEARS, UM, HOW DO I KNOW IF I APPROVE THIS BASED UPON THE FACT THAT WE ARE PROVIDING WORKFORCE HOUSING THAT THIS THING TWO YEARS FROM NOW IS GOING TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, RENTS ARE GOING TO RISE AND IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, YOU KNOW, ISSUE IN THE FUTURE.

I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION, UM, TO TAKE A STAB AT IT.

I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REASONS, YOU KNOW, FIRST LET ME SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, CHRISTINE AND KEVIN HAVE WORKED ON THIS CASE FOR A LONG TIME TOO.

AND WHILE I DISAGREE WITH THEM ABOUT THE YOUTH, IT'S JUST A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION.

THERE'S NO MALICE INVOLVED ON EITHER SIDE.

WE JUST, WE JUST DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT THE SHOULD BE.

WE THINK IT SHOULD BE RESIDENTIAL.

AND WE THINK THAT IT SERVES THAT EXACT WORKFORCE POPULATION THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WE DESIGNED THE PROJECT TO BE THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SHOEHORN IT IN AND MAKE IT SOMETHING LATER THAT IT'S NOT, WE KNEW THAT WAS THE DEMAND.

WE KNOW, FRANKLY, THAT WE HAVE A SITE THAT'S LESS SEXY.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S LESS EXCITING.

IT'S, IT'S NOT ACROSS THE STREET FROM CITY HALL.

IT'S A MILE AWAY FROM CITY HALL.

YOU GOTTA GO UNDER A FREEWAY AND BUY A MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY AND LOOK OUT ONTO SOME INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES, INCLUDES A TRANSFER STATION AND TWO FUELING FACILITIES TO GET THERE.

UM, SO, SO OUR RESIDENTS KNOW THAT THEY'RE GETTING SOMETHING THAT'S A DEAL AND THEY KNOW WHY THEY'RE GETTING THE DEAL.

WE'RE NOT HIDING THE FACT THAT THAT'S THE CASE.

IN FACT, WE'RE OFFERING IT UP.

WE THINK THEY WANT TO LIVE THERE DOWNTOWN,

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I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT EXAMPLES OF IT.

AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHY.

UM, WE HAVE, WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT FACILITIES THAT WE'VE BUILT ALREADY IN TOWN, IN THE PHOENIX METROPOLITAN AREA, OR YOU'RE NOT IN CHANDLER.

AND THOSE RENTS HAVE STAYED IN PLACE FOR YEARS NOW.

AND IN FACT, IN SOME CASES THEY EVEN DROPPED.

SO, UM, LOOK AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS HERE.

AND IN FACT, ONE THING I MIGHT DO, UH, IS IN ADDITION TO TALKING ABOUT MYSELF, I THINK I'M GOING TO INVITE, UH, MATT EVANS WHO RUNS THE MULTIFAMILY DIVISION FOR EVERGREEN AND HAVE HIM TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT AS WELL, BECAUSE IT'S ONE THING TO HEAR FROM ME, BUT IT'S ANOTHER TO HEAR FROM MATT HIMSELF ABOUT WHY IT IS REALLY OUR INTENT TO SERVE THESE MARKETS.

SO, SO MATT, LET'S JUST CUT THE JASON, RIGHT? I KNOW IT'S BEEN A, UH, A GREAT PRESENTATION.

GOOD, GOOD DIALOGUE.

YOU'VE BUILT THIS BEFORE.

CHECK GOT THAT.

UM, YOU OR YOUR BUSINESS MODEL ALLOWS YOU TO KEEP RENTS AT A, WITHIN VERY GOOD WORKFORCE HOUSING RATES, MUCH LOWER THAN WE'RE SEEING IT EVEN DOWNTOWN CHANDLER BY, I DON'T KNOW, FOUR, SIX, $800 A MONTH, PROBABLY A THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH, SOME OF RUNS TODAY.

BUT AGAIN, I GOT TO ASK THAT QUESTION TO YOU.

WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR HISTORY ON BASICALLY KEEPING THESE RENTS, UH, AT, AT A REASONABLE RATE? UH, IT'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY THE MARKET.

IT'S WHERE IT'S WHERE THE, UH, RENT START.

EXCUSE ME.

INSTEAD OF GOING INTO THE HIGH-PROFILE AREAS, WE GO INTO A LITTLE BIT OFF THE BEATEN PATH.

IT COMMANDS A LITTLE BIT LOWER RENT.

WE GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER PRICE ON THE LAND.

WE GO WITH LOWER DENSITY, PRODUCT, LOWER CONSTRUCTION COSTS.

SO WE CAN START THE RENTS AT A LOWER LEVEL.

TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, 10 TO 15% LOWER THAN THE HIGH DENSITY PROJECTS IN THE HIGH PROFILE AREAS.

WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL WITH THAT.

AND MIDTOWN PHOENIX, SOUTH MOUNTAIN CORRIDOR, UH, NORTH CENTRAL PHOENIX, 12TH STREET AND BELL AREA IT'S AREAS THAT REALLY OTHER PEOPLE OVERLOOK THOSE STATES AND THE REST OF STATE.

SO WE LOOKED AT THEM THE OTHER DAY.

UH, ONE PROPERTY HAS STAYED FLAT SINCE WE'VE SOLD IT.

UH, ANOTHER PROPERTY WHERE IT WAS THE ONLY NEW PROPERTY IN PROBABLY 20 YEARS AT 12TH STREET AND BELL, BECAUSE WE DID A REDEVELOPMENT AND TO FEEL REDEVELOPMENT AND BROUGHT NEW HOUSING, THAT ONE HAS RISEN 4% PER YEAR.

UH, WE DID ANOTHER ONE.

HOW MUCH IS THAT ADULTS? WHATEVER 30 BUCKS.

OH, ABOUT, ABOUT $115 A MONTH.

WE DID ANOTHER ONE AT 28TH STREET AND INDIAN SCHOOL, WHICH WAS A REDEVELOPMENT OF A FAILED DEVELOPMENT, UH, CLEANED UP THAT AREA AGAIN.

DID IT SURFACE PARK, NO STRUCTURED PARKING.

THAT ONE WE LOOKED AT, WE SOLD THAT THREE YEARS AGO, MAYBE THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO.

THAT ONE, THE RENTS OF RE RISEN 3%.

SO THE RENTS HAVE BEEN SINGLE DIGIT VERSUS SOME OF THE DOUBLE DIGIT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, CORRECT? SURE.

THE DOUBLE DIGIT RENTS, WHEN YOU SEE THOSE IN THE, IN THE, IN THE NEWS OR WHAT HAVE YOU, THOSE ARE TYPICALLY REHAB PROJECTS WHERE THEY COME IN, DO A BIG REVEAL.

AND I GET YOUR BUSINESS MOM.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WAS INTERESTED MORE IN DISCUSSING IS WHAT, WHAT THE FINAL OUTCOME WILL BE.

I, I AGREE.

UH, THERE'S NO, NO ISSUES WITH THE LANDSCAPING.

UH, NO P AND Z THRILLED, JOHN, THAT ONE, I GO STAB DRILLED YOU ON THAT ONE.

I KNOW WHAT THE AMENITIES ARE THERE.

YOU STILL HAVE THE POOLS, THE GYM, ALL THOSE AMENITIES.

UM, BUT AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE LEVERAGING OF THE PROPERTY, THE AREA, THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU COULD STILL, UH, DO A GOOD PROJECT AND STILL MAKE A, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAY, MAKE IT A VERY GOOD PROJECT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO LIVE THERE.

OTHERWISE THEY WOULDN'T WANT TO LIVE THERE, THEIR AMENITIES WEREN'T THERE, BUT YOU'RE NOT COMPETING WITH THE HIGH END.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

WE HAVE TO ATTRACT RESIDENTS.

AND PART OF, PART OF THE WAY WE DO IT IS BY BUILDING A QUALITY PROJECT.

IT'S A LESSER LOCATION.

IT'S, DOESN'T HAVE STRUCTURED PARKING, BUT WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO CONTINUE TO BRING RESIDENTS IN.

AND I'M SURE STAY UP TO SPEED ON THAT STUFF AS WELL THAT YOU HAVE A VERY DILIGENT STAFF AND THEY CERTAINLY WORK HARD TO ME.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

SO COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR STEPH

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BEFORE WE LOOK AT THE MOTIONS ON THIS CONTENT MEMBER? WELL, WELL, I DON'T HAVE FURTHER QUESTION.

I JUST LIED TO MY SON COMMAND AS IN, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCAMMON, MEGA BARRY COOK, UH, AS A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

THAT'S SO WHAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE PROJECT FOR THIS LAND? UM, SO I'LL TRY TO PUT MYSELF INTO A DEVELOPER'S SHOES AND POSITION.

SO I'M THINKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL PRAZA OFFICE PO THING, INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURER, OR ANY OF SHOPPING PROCESS OR ANYTHING? UM, I JUST HUNG OUT, WELL, MAYBE A HOUSING PROJECT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS LAND.

OH, WELL THE DEVELOPER, THE THEN OWNER WOULD PROBABLY ALREADY DOING SOMETHING ELSE ALREADY, SO, WELL, DON'T GET ME WRONG.

I STILL DON'T LIKE, UH, CHARISSE EVACUATE ANY OPPORTUNITY.

I'M STILL GOING TO GIVE YOU A HARD TIME.

I DON'T, I STILL DON'T LIKE THE LG ONE.

BUT WE ARE, I, I THINK, I THINK YOU MAY HAVE VERY GOOD ARGUMENT AND MAY HAVE VERY STRONG CASE THAT THIS IS A POPE WHO YET, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY IT'S THE BEST PROJECT, BUT I THINK THIS IS APPROPRIATE FOR LA LAND AND IT'S 24 ACRES AND IT'S 16 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IT IS A LITTLE BIT HIGH, BUT IT'S A SET OF BALLS TO ME.

AND I WOULD HAVE TO DO A COMMENCE OF, UH, AN APPROVAL FOR THE PROJECT.

OH, WE DON'T WANT TO BE ANNEXED.

SO CONSOLE, LET ME AGAIN, GO BACK.

IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR STEP BEFORE WE DELIBERATE THIS COUNCIL MEMBER ROOM? UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR, UH, FOR MICAH VERANDA, OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GURU, FIRST OF ALL, UH, BILL CONGRATULATIONS FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

AND, UH, AND I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT 40 YEARS, VERY DETERMINED.

UH, AND, AND THIS IS WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT TO TRY AND SORT THAT OUT.

MICAH TALKED TO ME JUST A MINUTE ABOUT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

WHAT KIND OF VACANCIES DO WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF CHANDLER? UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER RO UH, OUR VACANCY RATES RIGHT NOW ACROSS THE INDUSTRIAL PRODUCT.

UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S HIGHER THAN OUR AVERAGE TREND RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT.

AND IT GOES BACK TO THAT OLD SAME PRODUCT WINS PROJECT FOR US.

SO WE'VE HAD PRODUCT COME ONLINE TO DRIVE, UM, THAT VACANCY HIGHER.

SO I THINK CITYWIDE WE'RE LIKE 11% RIGHT NOW, UM, WHICH IS, WHICH IS STILL PRETTY LOW.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE IN THAT HEALTHY, HEALTHY RANGE RIGHT NOW.

UH, THAT'S EVEN CONSIDERING THE, UH, LEASES WE HAVE, UH, THAT STILL HAVEN'T HIT, UH, THE MARKET IN TERMS OF THAT VACANCY RATE NUMBER.

SO WORRIED ABOUT THAT 10% RANGE RIGHT NOW.

SO, OKAY.

SO ANOTHER QUESTION HERE, LET'S SAY SOMEBODY WANTED TO LEASE OR PURCHASE OR RENT OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.

INDUSTRIAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL HERE IN CHANDLER.

WOULD THEY PAY LESS IN MESA IN SOME AREAS, OR ARE WE VERY COMPETITIVE? IS THERE SOME, ARE WE LOOKING FOR PROPERTIES THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER DEAL FOR SOMEBODY TRYING TO LOCATE AND CHANDLER WHEN IT COMES TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER? ABSOLUTELY.

PRICE IS ALWAYS A CONSIDERATION.

I THINK SEE UROP CITY WIDE RIGHT NOW.

UM, REALLY SPECIFICALLY WHEN THEY'RE PARKED, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $8 AND 12 SET TRIPLE NET, UH, FROM EAST RATES.

SO, UH, IT'S COMPETITIVE.

IT'S, IT'S A GOOD MARKETPLACE RIGHT NOW FOR THAT INITIAL SPACE, JUST BECAUSE OF THE INTEREST IN THAT MARKET.

IF, IF THIS PROPERTY, AGAIN, IT'S BILL'S PROPERTY AND EVERGREEN DOES COMMERCIAL AND THEY DO RESIDENTIAL AND APARTMENTS.

BUT IF THIS PROPERTY, IF, IF SOMEONE CAME TO THE CITY OR DEVELOPERS AND SAID, WE WANT SWEETS OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WOULD THAT BE IT, WOULD YOU PERCEIVE THAT AS A GOOD FIT THROUGH THE MAYOR? UH, COUNSELOR RO UH, THAT REQUEST WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH A GENERAL PLAN IN THE AIR PARK AREA EMPLOYMENT PLAN.

SO IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT STAFF WOULD DO FAVORABLY.

RIGHT? THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR.

SO ANY, ANY OTHER OVER HERE FIRST? OKAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER.

I GOT A, UH, PROCEDURAL QUESTION HERE FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY AND OBVIOUSLY WITH YOUR DILIGENCE, UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS PROPERTY IS STILL IN THE COUNTY.

IF IT'S BROUGHT INTO THE CITY, THERE MAY BE TAX REPERCUSSIONS.

SO, OR MAYBE YOU COULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

I DON'T WANT TO, I GUESS MY POINT IS, SHOULD WE TRY TO WORK ON RESOLUTION 44 BEFORE WE DO 43? BECAUSE IF WE APPROVE 43 AND JUST HYPOTHETICALLY DENY 44, THIS GENTLEMAN HERE MAY BE, UH, MAY NOT WANT THIS, UM, ORDINANCE.

HE MAY WANT NOT WANT TO COME TO THE CITY.

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IF, IF WE CAN'T DO SOMETHING WITH THE PROPERTY TO THE EARLIER QUESTION, THERE'S BEEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INDUSTRIAL FOR SOME TIME.

IT'S JUST, HASN'T BEEN A REALITY.

AND, AND THE CITIES, FRANKLY, NEVER SENT ANYBODY TO US INDICATING THAT WOULD BE THE CASE.

IF WE CAN'T DO THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, WE DON'T WISH TO IT.

SO THEN I'M LOOKING AT A PROCEDURE QUESTIONNAIRE.

WE SHOULD DO 44 FIRST.

WE CAN SEE IF THAT PASSES OR, OR DENIED, AND THEN WE'RE DONE.

IF IT'S DENIED, WE'RE DONE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY I JUST HEARD YOU SAY YOU DON'T WANT TO BE AN ANNEXED.

SO MAYOR WITH THAT INTRODUCTION OF ORDINANCE FOUR, NINE, NUMBER FOUR, NINE FOUR SEVEN, RESOLUTION NUMBER FIVE, FOUR ONE SEVEN AREA PLAN AMENDMENT P L H 200 DASH ZERO ZERO SEVEN, EVERGREEN CHANDLER RECOMMEND APPROVAL RESOLUTION NUMBER FIVE, FOUR ONE SEVEN, AN AREA PLAN AMENDMENT TO CHANNEL THE AIR AREA FROM THE COMMERCIAL SLASH OFFICE SLASH BUSINESS PARK TO A HIGH DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL PLANT AREA DEVELOPMENT, PA D P L H 20 DASH ZERO ZERO SIX, EVERGREEN CHANDLER APPROVING ORDINANCE NUMBER FOUR NINE FOUR SEVEN.

THE REZONING FROM PLANNED AREA DEVELOPMENT PAD TO PA D AMENDMENT FOR MULTIFAMILY.

COOL BREATH HERE, PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT, PDP APPROVAL PDP FOR SITE LAYOUT AND BILLING DESIGN LOCATED NORTH OF NORTHEAST CORNER OF ARIZONA AVENUE IN GERMANE ROAD.

SO THERE'S A MOTION TO NOT GO WITH WHAT IS WRITTEN HERE, BUT TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT.

IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT? SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

SO COUNCIL, UM, AGAIN, BEFORE WE, WE VOTE ON THIS, THE VOTE NOW IS TO APPROVE THIS WHERE BEFORE, UH, YES.

WOULD HAVE BEEN TO DENY THIS COMMENTS, COUNCIL MEMBER AND VOLUNTEER VICE MAYOR.

MA'AM THIS IS, IT SAYS A DIFFICULT ONE, UH, AS YOU THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATION, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF EXPLANATION.

UM, THIS IS, THIS IS SO MANY ITEMS TO WEIGH, UH, PROPERTY RIGHTS, SOMEBODY THAT'S ASSEMBLED PROPERTY WILLING TO DO OR WANTING TO HAVE IT DEVELOPED, UM, AND HIS RIGHT TO DO SO, UH, WEIGHING THAT AGAINST OUR GENERAL PLAN, FITTING IN WITH THE AIR PARK AREA PLAN.

UM, BUT TO ME IN THE END, AND IT'S A VERY COMPELLING STORY YOU'VE TOLD.

UM, AND LET ME MAKE ONE COMMENT TOO, ON EVERGREEN, THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF, SORRY, TAKING DEEP BREATHS AND I CAN BARELY READ, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF, THE ARCHITECTURE, THE LAYOUT IS PHENOMENAL.

I MEAN, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE LOVE TO SEE YOU CHANDLER AGAIN, WORKING WITH STAFF AND ALTHOUGH, UH, AN AMENITIES YOU'VE ADDED IS A GOOD PROPERTY.

UM, BUT IN THE END, UNFORTUNATELY FOR ME, IT'S JUST THE LOCATION IS, IS JUST REALLY PUTTING ME OFF WITH SOUTH DAKOTA TO LOSING EMPLOYMENT.

UM, I CAN, I CAN APPRECIATE ALL OF EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED.

UH, AND IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO LEAN THAT WAY.

BUT, UM, I, TO ME, IT JUST, IT WASN'T, IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH IN ORDER TO, UH, GET AWAY FROM THAT EMPLOYMENT.

SO I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN MY ROLE BEFORE WE DO THAT.

SO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE CLIMATES.

LIKE ALL OF US UP HERE, WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT WE DO AT OUR COMMUNITY.

SO, UM, FOR ME, THIS EQUALLY VERY DIFFICULT TO, UM, UM, PROPERTY BASED IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.

AND FOR ME, IF, IF, UH, THE GENERAL PLAN ALONE WAS SOLELY EMPLOYMENT, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A HARD, NO FROM THE BEGINNING, BUT THAT THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

THERE IS OTHER POTENTIAL USES WITHOUT A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S APARTMENTS BEING BUILT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET APARTMENTS BEING BUILT, CATTY CORNER TO IT.

UM, I DON'T FORESEE THIS PROPERTY AS A CLASS, A PROPERTY POTENTIALLY LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, BUT NOTHING'S COME ALONG.

UM, BUT I, I DID WANT TO SHARE A PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.

UH, YOU KNOW, I LIVE IN CHANDLER 17 YEARS.

MY DAUGHTER WAS FIRST GRADUATING CLASS AT PERRY HIGH SCHOOL.

THIS YEAR.

SHE GRADUATED WITH HER BACHELOR'S OF NURSING WAS HIRED RIGHT AFTER.

AND, UM, UM, SHE WENT OUT TO LOOK FOR HOUSES AND CHANDLER QUEEN CREEK GILBERT 300,000 OR LESS.

AND I GOTTA TELL YOU, THERE'S NOTHING, YOU KNOW, SINGLE INCOME.

THERE'S NOTHING.

SO, UM, FROM A WORKFORCE POSITION AND YOU DO HEAR THIS IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT IS ONE OF THE DRIVING FORCES THAT MAKES ME INTERESTED IN THIS PROJECT.

IT IS A NICE PROJECT AND IT'S A NICE PROJECT IN A DIFFICULT AREA.

AND, UM, SO I'M INCLINED TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER.

I, UM,

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WE'VE HAD GREAT DISCUSSIONS.

WE ALLUDED EARLIER.

UM, AND I AM CONFLICTED.

I TOLD THIS BOTH TO STAFF AND I TOLD THIS BOLT TO THE APPLICANT.

I'M CONFLICTED HERE, BECAUSE AGAIN, I DO WANT TO MAINTAIN THE EMPLOYMENT.

I DO WANT TO, UH, BUT I ALSO LOOK AT WHAT CAN WE DO TO GET THAT MIDDLE GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE WORKING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND LIKE I INDICATED EARLIER WHEN DURING THIS COVID THING, AND I USE MANY OF THESE COMPANIES, THE ONLY FOLKS THAT WENT TO WORK, EVERYONE ELSE WAS AT HOME AT THEIR, THEIR LAPTOPS AND COMPUTERS WAS THE ASSEMBLY PERSON, WAS THE STOCK ROOM PERSON WAS THE DRIVERS.

AND MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE, THEY WANT TO LIVE HERE TOO, BUT BECAUSE OF THEIR WAGES, SOME OF THEM CAN'T LIVE HERE.

AND I THINK THAT'S UNFAIR.

I, IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, SO I AM CONFLICTED AS SOME OF YOU ARE UP HERE ABOUT EMPLOYMENT VERSUS WORKFORCE HOUSING.

BUT IN THIS CASE HERE, AND YOU HEARD ME, WE HEARD THE APPLICANT SAY, HE'S GOT A HISTORY OF THIS AND THEY'D RENTS.

AREN'T DRIVEN UP THERE PRETTY MUCH STAYING STABLE BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR BUSINESS MODEL.

THEY WANT TO STAY IN THAT MARKET NICHE.

I THINK THIS IS A GOOD USE FOR THIS PROPERTY.

AND I'M HOPING THAT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WERE, AGAIN, WE JUST APPROVED THE PROPERTY, UH, ELLIOTT ROAD RETAIL.

WE'RE TAKING DOWN SOME RETAIL TO PUT APARTMENTS THERE, Y TO DRIVE, TO DRIVE COMMERCE, TO DRIVE BUSINESSES.

WE GOT THE OTHER ONE NEXT COMING IN NEXT, THE SAME ARGUMENTS THEY'RE USING HIGH CAPACITY LINE, UH, OR HIGH CAPACITY AWKWARD.

SEE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TEARING DOWN EMPLOYMENT, RIGHT? BUILDINGS AND PUTTING APARTMENTS.

IT'S THE SAME THING WE'RE DOING HERE.

THIS FITS, IT'S ONLY A MILE AWAY IN DOWNTOWN.

IT WILL HELP THE JERMAINE INTERSECTION, WHICH WE HAVE DO HAVE SOME RETAIL THERE THAT IS SUFFERING.

LET'S BE HONEST.

BEFORE THE PANDEMIC HIT, THESE ARE 400, ALMOST 300 UNITS.

THINK THIS WILL HELP DRIVE SOME ECONOMIC DEVELOP IN THAT AREA.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M IMPROVING.

SO AGAIN, I'M CONFLICTED.

I'M NOT BEING CRITICAL, CRITICAL HERE, BUT AGAIN, I HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, WHAT'S THE BEST USE FOR THIS PROPERTY TODAY? AND I THINK RIGHT NOW WE COULD WAIT 20 MORE YEARS FROM NOW, BUT WHAT MAYBE STILL BE HERE.

I DON'T KNOW, BILL.

GOD BLESS YOU.

MAYBE YOU WILL BE HERE 20 YEARS.

I'M SURE YOU WILL BE.

YOU'RE LOOKING GREAT SHAPE, BUT I SAW YOU HERE WITH THE ADOBE PROJECT.

YOU MUST REMEMBER THAT IN 2006 AND I DIDN'T THINK WE'D GET TO SEE YOU AGAIN, BUT, UM, AGAIN, I'M INTERESTED IN MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PROPERTY.

SO THAT'S WHY MY MOTION.

SO COUNSEL, LET ME ADDRESS THIS IS THAT I, I SEE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, I APPRECIATE YOUR HOLDING ONTO THIS AS YOU HAVE, BUT I SEE THIS ASSEMBLY IS THREE YEARS OLD, NOT 40 YEARS OLD.

AND I SEE THE MARKETING OF THIS, IF THIS HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR PERHAPS A YEAR BEYOND THAT, IN TERMS OF, OF, OF LOOKING AT THIS.

SO I, I STILL SEE THIS AS WE ARE STRUGGLING WITH APARTMENTS, DESIRING TO GO IN MANY, MANY PLACES ACROSS OUR CITY AND MANY GOOD PLACES.

AND EVERYONE IT'S GOING TO BE A GUT RETCHING DECISION OF IS THIS APPROPRIATE AS OPPOSED TO IS THIS FOR JOBS APPROPRIATE AND WITH THE ONES GOING IN ACROSS THE STREETS AND WE'VE APPROVED THAT ARE, THAT ARE BEING BUILT AND WE'VE APPROVED TWO PROJECTS TONIGHT.

AND THERE WAS ONE MORE TO BE LOOKED AT.

I HONESTLY, I THINK THAT I, I'M GOING TO STICK WITH THIS LOOKING AT EMPLOYMENT ON THIS PROPERTY AND NOT ADDITIONAL HOUSING.

I I'VE BEEN STAND OUT ON ARIZONA AVENUE ON THE EAST SIDE FOR AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL.

AND AS MAYOR TO SAY, I THINK THE BETTER USE IS TRANSITION AND, AND INDUSTRIAL ON THAT, ON THAT SPEC.

I THINK WE HAVE WORKED WITH STAFF AND OUR PLANNING AND ZONING TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION AND SAYING, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT.

AND YES, THERE'S FLEXIBILITY, BUT I, I, IF THIS WAS ANY PLACE ELSE, I WOULD BE VERY COMPELLED, BUT IT IS THE LOCATION, THE LOCATION THAT MAKES ME, I'M GOING TO BE VOTING NO ON THIS FOR THE SAME SAKE OF EMPLOYMENT I DO HOLD SACRED.

AND THERE'S BIG ATLANTA NOW.

AND ONE OF MY FORMER COUNCIL MEMBERS AND NORA ELLEN SAID THAT VAN LAND IS, WILL BE DEVELOPED.

AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR PLATE, SIR.

I'M NOT MAKING LIGHT OF THAT.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAVE ASSEMBLED THIS, BUT I, I LIKE THE, THE, WHAT YOU DESIRE TO PUT UP EVERGREEN THERE.

BUT IN TERMS OF THIS LOCATION, I AM GOING TO STICK WITH, UH, WHAT, THE DIRECTION WE'VE GIVEN TO STAFF, THE DIRECTION WE'VE GIVEN THE PLANNING AND IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND TO BE CONSISTENT, I'M GOING TO BE VOTING NO ON THIS PROJECT.

SO CONSO ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS,

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SEEING NONE.

SO TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE VOTING ON AND JUST IN REFERENCE IN TO DEFER, WE'RE VOTING ON ITEM NUMBER 44, WHICH IS TO APPROVE THIS AND AS COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO RED, AND IF THIS PASSES, WE WILL THEN TURN AROUND AND LOOK AT ITEM NUMBER 43 IN TERMS OF THE ZONING CHANGE.

SO THAT'S, SO EVERYONE IS CLEAR ON THAT.

SO WITH ITEM 44, WE'VE HAD A MOTION.

WE HAD A SECOND, UH, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE A CITY ATTORNEY, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS CORRECT MAYOR SINCE IT'S ON THE SAME AGENDA.

IT, WE CAN PROCEED ACCORDINGLY.

COUNSEL, UM, PLEASE VOTE AGAIN.

MEANS WE'RE APPROVING THE APARTMENTS AS OPPOSED TO A DENIAL AND A NO MEANS WE ARE NOT MOTION FAILS BY LACK OF MAJORITY.

AND WITH THAT, UH, WE, UH, WE'LL BE NOT VOTING ON ITEM NUMBER 43.

UH, THANK YOU.

OUR AGENDA, I'M GOING TO DEFER TO A COUNCIL MEMBER WONG.

THE NEXT ITEM ON

[2. INTRODUCTION OF ORDINANCE NO. 4941, PLH20-0013, ALTA CHANDLER AT THE PARK, rezoning from Planned Area Development (PAD) to PAD for multi-family residential with a MidRise Overlay. PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN (PDP), for site layout and building design, located at the southwest corner of Chandler and Parklane boulevards.]

YOU ASKED THAT ITEM NUMBER TWO, BE BROUGHT TO ACTION.

SO, UM, YOU WOULD LIKE THIS.

UH, SO GO AHEAD.

TURN YOUR MIC OFF.

WHY DON'T YOU MAKE YOUR QUESTIONS FOR US? I'M NOT SURE WE NEED A PRESENTATION.

LET ME SEE WHERE IT COMES FROM.

NUMBER ONE WITH WHAT'S YOUR WISHES FIRST YEAR.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TIN LINE, UH, ITEM NUMBER TWO.

UM, TWO DENIED.

SO, WELL, I STILL HAVE MY REASON AND WE, UM, AM I GOING TO TALK RIGHT NOW OR WE ARE COMING FROM THAT REGION CLOSE.

UH, IF I WAS GOING TO LET YOU TALK, I THOUGHT YOU WERE FIRST DISCUSSING A CONTINUANCE, BUT, UH, I THINK WE SHOULD BE DI IF, IF WE, IF EVEN IF WE CONTINUE, THEY MAY, UH, IT DOESN'T LOOK DYED.

THEY DEVELOP A WANT TO CONTINUE IT IT'S IF WE DENY IT, THEN THEY MAY COME BACK WITH ANOTHER PLAN.

SO IS THAT AN OFFICIAL MOTION? YES, THAT'S A, YEP.

SO THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO DENY ITEM NUMBER TWO.

YOU CAN SOUND PLACE.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND MOTION.

SECOND.

SO THERE IS A, A MOTION AND A SECOND.

UM, I'M GOING TO WAIT.

THAT WAS A MEMBER OF THE CLASS BETTER LOOK.

CAUSE I, I ACTUALLY WAS EXPECTING YOU TO ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE PREVIOUSLY GONE TO ME.

WELL, MAYOR, I'M SORRY.

DID YOU, ARE YOU MAYOR? SO GO AHEAD.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE JUST HAVE A CONVERSATION LA I'M IN FAVOR OF A DEVELOPMENT.

AND BY NOW MOST OF THE PROJECT, UH, INFIELD AND THE PREVIOUS ONE NUMBER 44, THAT'S 24 ACRE.

AND THIS ONE IS ONLY 6.5 ACRE AND THEY ARE GOING TO PUT 293 UNITS ON IT.

THAT'S A 45 UNIT PER ACRE.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY TOO EXTREME.

UM, UH, NOT A LOT.

I DON'T LIKE THE PROJECT I SEEN.

THEY DO HAVE PUT DESIGN, UM, UH, VERY GOOD, VERY GOOD PROJECT.

THE LOCATION WAS NOT LIE.

IT'S ON GENDER BOURGEOIS, UM, NEAR A SCHOOL.

UM, THAT'S THE MAJOR CONCERN? 45 UNITS PER ACRE.

IT'S IT'S WE HAVE, UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR WITH DECEIT.

UH, RESIDENT IS SPRAYED OBSIDIAN, UH, OPPOSITION, JUST BECAUSE IT IT'S PEN UNIT PER ACRE.

AND THIS ONE HAS MORE THAN A FOUR TIMES.

AND WE, WE ALSO JUST DESIGNED ANOTHER ONE, UH, 44 IT'S ONLY 20 PER ACRE.

AND NOW IF WE ACCOUNT TO APPROVE 45 UNITS PER ACRE, I THINK I, I DON'T THINK WE SEND A RIGHT MESSAGE TO OUR PUBLIC.

SO THAT WAS MY MAIN REASON FOR THE DESIRE.

I'M ALSO IT'S ENGENDER BODYWASH IT'S .

IF WE DO A TRAVIS STUDY THERE, IT'S PRETTY, PRETTY HEAVY TRAFFIC ALREADY.

SO THAT'S MY MAIN REASON.

THERE IS A MOTION IN THE SECOND CONCEPT MEMBER ORLANDO.

NOTHING GETS PROJECT BEAUTIFUL.

AND MR. BOLTZ GOOD SEEING YOU AGAIN, AN OLD FRIEND OF COURSE, UH, DEALING

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WITH BRENDAN RAY.

I NEED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT LATER ON.

YOUNG MAN, UH, MAYOR.

UM, I HAD A FRANK CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, I BRENDA KNOW BRENDAN MANY YEARS AS MANY OF YOU UP HERE KNOW, UH, I APPRECIATE HIS FRANKNESS.

I APPRECIATE HIS, HIS DILIGENCE.

I APPRECIATE IT.

PROJECT HIS FIRST CLIENT AND THE CLIENT.

YOU'RE GETTING A GREAT, YOU HAVE A GREAT ATTORNEY HERE BY THE WAY.

I THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW THAT ALREADY, BUT SOMETIMES WE JUST AGREE TO DISAGREE ON THIS ONE.

AND YOU HEARD THE CONVERSATION ON MONDAY NIGHT, YOU HEARD A CONVERSATION TONIGHT WHERE MY THOUGHT PROCESS ON THIS, IT'S NOT SO MUCH I'M AGAINST THIS, THE PIECE OF THIS, BECAUSE IT DOES FIT AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLY IN THE LAST PROJECT, BUT IT'S THE INTENSITY.

IT'S THE FOUR STORIES.

IT'S THE SQUARE FOOT D THE HIGH DENSITY, UH, ISSUE OF THIS WHOLE AREA, WHICH I KNOW P AND Z HAD SIMILAR ISSUES.

SO IT WASN'T EXACTLY A SEVEN OLD BOAT EITHER.

SO, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE DO HERE.

WE HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THESE ISSUES.

WE LOOK AT THEM INDIVIDUALLY AND FROM A HOLISTIC APPROACH.

SO THAT'S WHY I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS.

AND LIKE I SAID, A GOOD CONVERSATION WITH STAFF, AS WELL AS, AS BRENNER RAY AND DATE, THEY KNEW MY POSITION ON THIS.

I KNOW P AND Z DID A LOT OF, A LOT OF THE EFFORT TO REDESIGNING IT.

AND, BUT, UH, AGAIN, THE INTENSITY AND THE MASSIVENESS OF THIS PRO THIS, THIS, THIS PROJECT IS SUCH A SMALL AREA.

AND THE 45 UNITS PER ACRE IS JUST A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH OR TOO MUCH OF A STRETCH FOR ME.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M NOT BROKENNESS.

THANK YOU FOR REVOLT.

WE, WE WENT OUT TO DENY THIS PROJECT ON THIS TO MAKE ONE STATEMENT ON THAT.

SO THE, WE GAVE THE OTHER APPLICANT A TON OF TIME AND WE COME UP GUNS BLAZING WITH THE DENIAL TO PRESENT THEIR PROJECT.

THERE WAS OUT OF THE GATE, A, UH, A MOTION ON THIS.

SO YEAH, WE'RE JUST VOTING ON A MOTION.

MAYOR, IF YOU WANT A DISCUSSION, WE COULD HAVE ONE.

I CAN HEAR YOU MADE THE MOTION THAT YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON IT.

HMM.

SO PROCEDURALLY IN, WHEN THERE'S A ACCOUNT CALLED THE QUESTION OF EMOTION, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT BEFORE GOING IN CALL THE QUESTION TO CALL THE QUESTION.

I, I, I WANT TO BE SURE THAT I'M LISTENING, RIGHT? UM, HOW'S A MEMBER OF WONG'S MOTION IS ABOUT THIS ITEM NUMBER TWO, TO DENY IT.

AND IT IS, ISN'T ABOUT A PROCEDURAL THING, RIGHT? IT IS ABOUT THIS ITEM TO APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE WHATEVER OUR VOTE IS.

IT IS ABOUT THIS ITEM.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

PROCEDURALLY, IF THERE IS A NO VOTE, IF THE NOTE, IF THERE'S HIS MOTION DOES NOT PASS ANOTHER MOTION IS IN ORDER, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART.

UH, CAN YOU AND YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT, UH, WE JUST HAD A BIG MEETING ABOUT, UM, SUSTAINABILITY AND ELECTRIC CARS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH IS THE PARKING.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID RECENTLY IS WE CHANGED OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS TO ACCOUNT FOR, IT WAS A COMMON QUESTION, SORRY.

THERE IS A CALL TO QUESTION.

WAIT A SECOND.

IF THERE WAS SOMEONE THAT'S CALLED THE QUESTION, THEN THE VOTE SHOULD BE TAKEN.

UNLESS THAT PERSON WITHDRAWS THEIR CALL FOR THE QUESTION, CORRECT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO CALL THE QUESTION THAT IS JUST, YOU JUST VOTE ON THE ITEM.

SO YOU JUST IMMEDIATELY DO THAT.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT, YOU DON'T VOTE ON WHETHER YOU SHOULD VOTE ON IT.

YEAH, YEAH.

ANYBODY SECOND.

IT THERE'S.

NO, THERE'S NO SECOND ON IT.

OH, ON THE CORNER THERE, YOU DO NOT VOTE ON THE CALL OF THE QUESTION.

THE CALL FOR THE QUESTION MEANS WE'RE GOING TO, IT IS A REQUEST FOR THE BODY TO VOTE ON THE MOTION BEFORE THEM, WHICH IS TO DENY THE PROJECT.

SO COUNCIL, WHERE WE'RE PLEASE VOTE AGAIN.

A YES.

ON THIS MEANS WE'RE DENYING A NO MEANS THAT WE ARE NOT DENYING US.

NO MOTION FAILS BY LACK OF MAJORITY.

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NOW WE CAN OPEN THE DISCUSSION BACK UP AGAIN.

INCLUDED IN OUR PARKING CALCULATIONS, GOING OVER AND SPILLING OVER TO SAFEWAY AND USING SOME OF THAT OVER THERE THAT THAT USED TO BE THAT APPLEBEE'S, THAT'S NOW A STARBUCKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO NOW IT IS APPROPRIATE TO FURTHER DISCUSSION OR MAKE A MOTION.

SO GO AHEAD.

YOU WANT COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART.

THANK YOU, MARIN.

AND SO WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PARK AND I HAVE A REAL, I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH THE OVERFLOW PARKING OR THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PARKING GOING OUT TO THE STREET.

UH, MY CHALLENGE WITH THIS IS THAT IF THE SAFEWAY PROPERTY, WHEREVER SOLD AND PEOPLE WERE STILL PARKING ON THE STREET OR GUESTS WERE COMING AND PARKING ON THE STREET, WHICH HAPPENS WITH ONE OF OUR LOCAL PROPERTIES HERE DOWNTOWN, UM, THAT COULD CAUSE AN ISSUE FOR BOTH THE OWNERS AND, UM, AND, UM, THE APARTMENT COMPLEX ITSELF.

IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN STEP THAT, THAT THE PARKING HAS TO FIT WITHIN THE CONFINES AND WITHIN THE GATES OF THE COMMUNITY, I THINK IS PROBABLY THE MOST APPROPRIATE THING HERE.

AND THEN I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION WAS ABOUT, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THERE WERE ELECTRIC PORTS FOR, UM, VEHICLES, UH, FOR LIKE TESLAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE'VE, UM, WE'RE THE THIRD HIGHEST PER CAPITA OF ELECTRIC CARS IN THE STATE.

AND THAT'S GOING TO TREND THAT WILL CONTINUE TO GROW.

SO JUST MAKING SURE THAT THIS IS SUSTAINABLE PROJECT FROM THAT REGARD.

UH, SIR, THE MAYOR, UH, COUNCILMAN STEWART, BRENNAN RAY, 700, BEFORE I SAY IT, BEFORE I RESPOND BRENNAN RAY, 1850 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE, NOT SEVEN OH TWO EAST DALLAS, BORN 1850 NORTH CENTRAL HERE ON BEHALF OF WOOD PARTNERS, UM, THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCILMAN STEWART, WITH RESPECT TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT, UH, KIND OF OVERFLOW PARKING.

UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH STAFF ON, AND YOU ARE CORRECT YOU AND I HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF DISCUSSIONS WITH IT AS A, AS WITH OTHERS AS WELL.

AND WHEN WE START TO LOOK AT THE PARKING FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, UM, AND WE LOOK AT THE REDUCTION THAT WE'RE REQUESTING, WE ARE, UM, THERE ARE UNDER NORMAL USING THE CITY'S SUBURBAN, UH, PARKING CRITERIA.

UH, THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD REQUIRE 498 SPACES.

UM, WE ARE PROVIDING 484 AND THAT 484 DOES INCLUDE, UM, SOME THAT ARE ON STREET.

AND THE REASON WE HAVE AN ABILITY TO COUNT THE ON-STREET PARKING BEFORE I EVEN EVER GET OVER TO THE SAFEWAY ON THE, UH, EAST SIDE OF PARK LANE, UM, BEFORE I EVER GET THERE, THESE ARE PRIVATE STREETS, UH, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE, UM, PARK LANE AND COMMONWEALTH ADJACENT TO THIS SIDE ARE PRIVATE STREETS.

AND THAT GOES BACK TO WHEN IN THE EARLY EIGHTIES, THIS WAS PLANNED TO BE A LARGE MALL, A 60 ACRE REGIONAL MALL.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT IN MIND, IN THAT DEVELOPMENT, WHEN THE OFFICE WENT IN, IT WAS ANTICIPATED THAT OFFICE PROCEEDED WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LARGE RETAIL DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, THERE ARE PRIVATE STREETS ADJACENT TO OUR SITE.

AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THOSE, TAKING THOSE OFF SITE PARKING SPACES, AND YOU LOOK AT THE REDUCTION THAT WE ARE REQUESTING, IT AMOUNTS TO ABOUT 2.8%, UM, THAT IS IN LINE AND KEEPING WITH A NUMBER OF MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS APPROVED, UH, INCLUDING ONE TONIGHT, UH, EARLIER ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

BUT AS WE, AS WE LOOK AT IT AND WE SAY, ALL RIGHT, BRENNAN WOULD PARTNERS, WHAT IF WE DON'T COUNT YOUR ONSITE PARKING OR THAT THE OFF STREET PARKING, UM, THEN WE'RE AT A 7.4% REDUCTION, WHICH AGAIN IS WE LOOK AT IT AND WE SUBMITTED THIS TO STAFF IT'S IT'S CONTAINED IN OUR, UH, DEVELOPMENT BOOKLET, UH, WAS CONTAINED IN THE PARKING STUDY THAT WE SUBMITTED TO STAFF AND WAS RE REVIEWED BY STAFF THAT 7.4% REDUCTION IS IN LINE WITH OTHER REDUCTIONS, UH, THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS GRANTED FOR OTHER MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS.

AND WE SPECIFICALLY WENT OUT AND LOOKED AT TWO OF THE OTHER, UM, PARKING DEVELOPMENT.

THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE RECENTLY BEEN, BEEN APPROVED, ONE A STEEL YARD, WHICH YOU'RE ALL VERY FAMILIAR WITH.

THE OTHER ONE IS THE MET OVER BY, UM, OVER BY THE MALL.

AND AS WE LOOKED AT THOSE DEVELOPMENTS AND THOSE HAVE SIMILAR REDUCTIONS, RIGHT AROUND SIX, SEVEN ISH PERCENT RANGE IN TERMS OF REDUCTION.

AND WE WENT OUT AND WE DID A PARKING STUDY AND WE LOOKED AT NIGHT, ALL RIGHT, CAUSE WHAT'S THE QUESTION, UH, WHAT IS THERE ENOUGH PARKING FOR THE RESIDENTS AND FOR THE GUESTS AND ALL OF THAT.

AND WHAT WE FOUND LOOKING AT THOSE TWO OTHER SIMILARLY SITUATED DEVELOPMENTS IN TERMS OF REDUCTION IS ACTUALLY THERE, THERE WAS A PARKING SURPLUS AT NIGHT, UH, THAT THERE WAS ABOUT 14 TO 17% OF SPACES THAT WERE UNOCCUPIED AT NIGHT AT BOTH OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS IS.

SO WHEN WE START TO LOOK AT IT AND COMPARE AT IT, OBVIOUSLY I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, PREDICT FOR THE ONE-TIME EVENT WHERE MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE ARE HAVING 40TH BIRTHDAY PARTIES AND REALLY WANTED TO LIVE IT UP HERE.

UM, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT BASED ON, ON THE PARKING STUDY, BASED ON LOOKING AT EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS BASED ON, YOU KNOW, IF WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, ITE CRITERIA THAT THE REDUCTION CERTAINLY IS APPROPRIATE AND WE KNOW TIME THAT WE PLANNED, I DON'T BELIEVE IN

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WE ARE PLANNING ON CONTAINING IT ONSITE.

AND ALL OF OUR RESIDENT PARKING IS WITHIN THE GATES.

WE ARE PROVIDING A TOTAL OF 52 IF I REMEMBER RIGHT.

UM, GUESTS PARKING SPACES ON OUR SITE.

AND AGAIN, IT'S ONLY IN THOSE RARE INSTANCES WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE AN OVERFLOW THAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING THAT THOSE PARKING SPACES THAT ARE PROVIDED ALONG PARK LANE AND ALONG COMMONWEALTH WILL BE USED WITH RESPECT TO YOUR SECOND QUESTION.

IN TERMS OF CHARGING VEHICLES, WOULD PARTNERS AT MOST OF THEIR DEVELOPMENTS THROUGHOUT THE VALLEY AND HAVE PROVIDED THOSE CHARGING STATIONS.

WE INCLUDED IN THE DEVELOPMENT BOOKLET, WHICH IF APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL TONIGHT AS A CONDITION OF THE ORDINANCE, WE HAVE SAID IN THERE, AND, AND I KNOW STAFF WELL ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE GONNA KEEP US HONEST.

UH, BUT IN THAT, IN THAT DEVELOPMENT BOOKLET, IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT WE ARE GOING TO PROVIDE CHARGING STATIONS.

WE DON'T HAVE THEM DESIGNED, WE DON'T HAVE THEM LOCATED YET.

UH, THAT USUALLY COMES A LITTLE BIT LATER AS WE'RE LAYING OUT THE SITE AND LOOKING AT UTILITIES AND WHERE THOSE GO.

BUT THE PLAN IS TO PROVIDE A MINIMUM OF FOUR OF THOSE CHARGING STATIONS, BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THAT IN THIS EVER EVOLVING TRANSPORTATION WORLD, THAT THOSE ARE CERTAINLY IMPORTANT.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT IT WILL BE IMPORTANT TO, UH, THE FUTURE RESIDENTS AS WELL TO HAVE THAT ABILITY AND ACCESS.

THANK YOU, KEVIN, DO YOU HAVE A SECOND ON THE, UM, ON THE CHARGING STATIONS? IS THAT IN THE, IN THE CURRENT, UH, MR. RAY SAID IT WAS IN THE CURRENT PROGRAM, OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU ADD LATER OR HOW DOES THAT WORK AND THEN HOW DOES THAT WORK IN THE PLAN? LIKE, HOW DO WE CHECK ON THAT AND DO WE ADD LIKE, WHAT'S THE RIGHT NUMBER? CAN WE HELP THEM WITH THAT? AND WHAT, WHAT THE RIGHT NUMBER MIGHT BE? I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FOUR, IF IT'S EIGHT OR IF IT'S TOO, UM, IS IT SOMETHING WE CAN DO THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL? YEAH, IT'S OKAY.

WE COULD ADD IT AS A STEP TO THE PDP FROM A DESIGN STANDPOINT, ULTIMATELY THE NUMBER OF THOSE CHARGING STATIONS WOULD BE PROBABLY A NEGOTIATED NUMBER WITH, WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT IT.

IT'S, IT'S EASY TO ADD THAT AS A STEP TO THE PDP.

AND I HAVE A QUESTION, SUSAN, I DON'T KNOW IF HE'D ANSWER THE SURVEY OR KEVIN WHEN IT COMES TO STAFF.

I'M SORRY, STAFF QUESTION.

UH, THE PARKING AGAIN.

UM, SORRY, BRENDAN.

SORRY.

AND DOWN AND UP, BUT IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THERE ARE IN THE PARKING THAT I DON'T, WE HAVE IT SOMEWHERE IN OUR ORDINANCE.

I THOUGHT THAT IF THEY HAD A DROP OFF PICK UP LOCATION FOR, UM, UH, FOR LYFT, UBER WAYMO, WAYMO IS MY PREFERRED BY THE WAY, BEN.

ANYWAY, UM, IF THEY HAVE ONE OF THOSE ON PREM, IT ALSO IS ALLOWED WITHIN OUR ORDINANCE TOO, THAT THEY CAN NEVER REDUCE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES.

WAS THAT A COUNTER FOR IS, OR AM I MISUNDERSTANDING WHAT WE PASSED ON THE ORDINANCE FOR THAT THROUGH THE MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER LOPEZ.

SO YES, IN THE ORDINANCE THAT IS ALLOWED TO REDUCE THE PARKING ONSITE THROUGH, UM, A LOADING YOUR RIDESHARE SPACE ON THAT, BUT THAT WAS NOT CALCULATED IN THEIR, THEIR PARKING TO REDUCE IT.

SO THEY DO PROVIDE FOR LOADING SPACES, BUT THEY DID NOT UTILIZE THAT.

SO, UH, WE CAN ACCOUNT FOR THAT ADDITIONAL SPACES FOR UBER OR PICKUP.

AND HOW MUCH WAS, UH, HOW MANY RE WITH THE REDUCTION? WAS IT A PERCENTAGE OR WAS IT A NUMBER? I JUST DON'T REMEMBER THE DETAIL ON IT, UH, THROUGH THE MIRROR.

I AM SORRY.

I DON'T REMEMBER IF THERE IS A PERCENTAGE OR NOT OF THAT.

WAS IT IN TERMS OF MAYOR VICE MAYOR LOPEZ IN TERMS OF REDUCTION, WE ARE REQUESTING AGAIN THAT 484 BE PROVIDED, WHICH IS REDUCTION REALLY AT 14 PARKING SPACES IS WHAT IT AMOUNTS TO.

WHEN I'M SAYING, JUST CAUSE I RECALL THAT WE PASS AN ORDINANCE THAT IF YOU HAD A LOADING ON ZONING FOR RIDESHARE, THANK YOU FOR SEEING THE RIGHT SCENARIOS TURN AT THE END.

IF YOU HAD THAT AS PART OF YOUR PROJECT, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, THEN YOU WERE ABLE TO REDUCE YOUR, AND I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS FOR COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL OR IF THAT WAS FOR RESIDENTIAL ALSO.

UM, BUT IF YOU HAVE A, IF YOU HAVE A LOAD, UH, UNLOADING FROM JOAN LOADING, UNLOADING RIDESHARE ZONE, THEN WE DID ALLOW FOR A 10% REDUCTION.

SO THAT WOULD ACTUALLY COUNT FOR 40 SPACES.

SO THEY WOULD PUT THEM UNDER THE ALLOTMENT IMMEDIATELY ANYWAY.

I THINK YOU'VE ANSWERED MY OWN QUESTION.

IF, IF I NEED TO, I WAS GOING TO SAY, I CAN GET THE MAGIC GUY AND THIS GUY TO FLOAT ON MY IPAD HERE.

YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE IT, BUT WE ARE PROVIDING A RIDE SHARING LOCATION.

UM, AGAIN, IT'S ON THE SITE PLAN.

WE'VE IDENTIFIED WHERE THAT LOCATION IS.

IS IT ONE OR TWO? IT'S REALLY AN AREA FOR ROSA.

TO BE CLEAR WITH, UH, WITH COUNCIL, I, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO ADD A STEP THAT THOSE ELECTRONIC CHARGING STATIONS ARE ADDED TO THE, TO THE PD OR THE, TO THE OVERALL PLAN.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, JUST

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AND THEN KEVIN CAN ADD THOSE.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THAT, BUT I'D LIKE TO GET THAT ADDED WHEN WE MAKE A MOTION TO INDICATE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A BOOK.

SO I'LL MAKE A COMMENT AND THEN EMOTION.

UM, SO WE HAD THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION WITH A MULTIFAMILY ON A MAJOR TRANSIT CORRIDOR, YOU KNOW, CHANGING OF ZONING FROM COMMERCIAL TO, TO RESIDENTIAL.

UM, AND THAT WAS A HARD ONE.

THIS ONE, UH, WAS, WAS ALSO DIFFICULT FOR ME.

AGAIN, EMPLOYMENT TO US IS, IS, IS KING, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S WORTH GETTING YOU TO GROW AND BRING IN GREAT EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES.

BUT THIS TO ME IS ONE OF THOSE WHERE IT IS NOT AS DIFFICULT WITH DECISION BECAUSE IT CHECKS A LITTLE BIT MORE BOXES FOR ME PERSONALLY, WHEN IT COMES TO THAT CONVERSION, UM, THERE IS THAT EXISTING RETAIL THAT NET NEEDS THE BUFFER, BUT THE BIG ONE FOR ME TOO, IS IT'S NORTH OF THE TWO OR TWO THAT'S THAT'S.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON OUR, OUR, OUR, UH, SOUTHEAST SOUTHEASTERN, UH, CHANDLER AREA PLAN.

UM, AND THEN IT'S JUST, UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I THINK THIS IS A CASE BY CASE, BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IN THE COUNCIL AND, AND IT'S FURTHER FROM THE AIRPORTS AND OTHER ONES, BUT FOR THE COUNCIL, WE JUST, THAT'S WHY THESE CASES DO COME BEFORE US AND WITH STAFF, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SAFRA, COMMENDATIONS PLANNING, ZONING, STARTING ON THE AIRPORT COMMISSION, UM, WE DO LISTEN TO THEM AND IT DOES PROVIDE US A GOOD BACKGROUND ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT QUESTIONS TO ASK WHAT TO CONSIDER WHEN CONSIDERING THESE, THESE ONE-OFF CASES, UM, AND SPECIFIC CASES.

SO FOR THAT REASON, UM, IT MAY SEEM CONTRADICTORY, BUT AGAIN, THERE ARE, THE LOCATION IS VERY DIFFERENT TO ME AND THE PURPOSE BEHIND THIS LOCATION.

UM, THE DENSITY DOESN'T HONESTLY, IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME.

I THINK THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS NEEDED IN THE AREA TO TRULY HELP A LOT OF THE RETAIL.

UM, SO FOR THAT REASON, I AM GOING TO MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE INTRODUCTION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER FOUR NINE FOUR ONE PLH TWO ZERO DASH ZERO ZERO ONE THREE ALTA CHANDLER AT THE PARK.

WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE STEWARD, ASKED WITH THE ADDITION, UH, THE STIPULATION THAT THERE BE A MINIMUM OF TWO, OR SHOULD WE WANT TO PUT A NUMBER WITH LIKE STAFF TO DO THE STUDY ON WHAT THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNTS MIGHT BE A HALF PERCENT IN THE ENTIRE CITY, BUT JUST, JUST CREATING SOME STANDARDS, THE STIMULATION OPTIONS, HALF OF THE STAFF OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, BUT OF THE STAFF AND THE APPLICANT WORKED TOGETHER ON, UH, ADDING IN SOME CHARGING STATIONS.

SORRY, IS THAT MOTION, UH, SPECIFIC ENOUGH SPECIFIC ENOUGH CITY ATTORNEY? UM, YES, MAYOR, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE BOTH THE ORDINANCE AND THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THE ADDED STIPULATION THAT STAFF WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER DETERMINE AN APPROPRIATE NUMBER OF ELECTRIC CHARGING STATIONS.

SO THERE'S A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND CONCEPT.

NUMBER ONE, WE HAD A QUESTION OR COMMENT.

I WILL NOT AMEND THE MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION.

ANYTHING BESIDES, UH, VICE MAYOR'S MOTION.

I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION LATS TO INCLUDING A CONDITION LAT THAT DEVELOP HER, MAKE IT UNDER CERTI UNITS PER ACRE.

SO THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE AGREED BY THE MOTION MAKER OR THE SECOND.

SO IT WOULD BE BY ME.

UM, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER LONG IS MOVING TO AMEND THE MOTION, OKAY.

TO REDUCE THE DENSITY TO 30 BELOW 30 UNITS PER ACRE.

SO A SECOND WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

AND IF THERE IS A SECOND, THEN YOU'D VOTE ON THAT AMENDMENT THEN THE UPPER FIRST.

I HEARD A SECOND FROM NO, IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT, UH, AMENDMENT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER WALL SEEING NONE MOTION FAIL FAILS.

NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS WE DO HAVE COUNSEL, A PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, CITY MANAGER.

ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS COUNSEL BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS, SEEING NONE COUNCIL, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY MAJORITY.

THANK YOU, COUNSEL.

[PH 1. Public Hearing for Fiscal Year 2019–2020 Chandler Consolidated Annual Performance and Evaluation Report]

YOU WANT TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CALL FOR STAFF

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PRESENTATION? UH, YES.

I WOULD LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING AND CALL FOR STAFF TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.

IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT ALREADY.

MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO SHARE THE PROGRESS WE'VE MADE OVER THE LAST YEAR IN ASSISTING CHANDLER RESIDENTS TO PROVE, IMPROVE THEIR LEVEL OF INDEPENDENCE AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

THROUGH HOUSING, STABILITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION EFFORTS.

EACH YEAR, THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A CAPER OR A CONSOLIDATED ANNUAL PERFORMANCE AND EVALUATION REPORT TO THE U S DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING, URBAN DEVELOPMENT.

THIS REPORT PROVIDES THE OUTCOMES ACHIEVED WITH FEDERAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT AND HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIPS FUNDS.

WHILE THIS IS A REQUIRED REPORT, IT ALSO GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMUNICATE THE VARIETY OF HOUSING AND SUPPORT SERVICES WE OFFER TO CHANDLER RESIDENTS.

IT ALLOWS US TO DEMONSTRATE HOW WE LEVERAGE FEDERAL FUNDS WITH LOCAL GENERAL FUNDS TO INCREASE OUR CAPACITY, TO SERVE CHANDLER RESIDENTS.

IT ALLOWS US TO EVALUATE OUR PROGRESS TOWARDS THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES PROPOSED IN OUR FIVE-YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN.

AND IT ALLOWS US TO SHARE OUR SUCCESSES AND FACILITATING HOUSING STABILITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION.

IN CHANDLER, I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY SHARE A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE REPORT WITH YOU IN THE AREA OF HOUSING STABILITY.

THIS YEAR, WE WERE ABLE TO ASSIST 10 LOW AND MODERATE INCOME INDIVIDUALS STAY IN THEIR HOMES BECAUSE OF EMERGENCY HOME REPAIRS AND MINOR HOUSING REHABILITATION.

WE WERE ALSO ABLE TO ASSIST FIVE LOW AND MODERATE INCOME INDIVIDUALS BECOME FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS BY PURCHASING HOMES THAT WERE ACQUIRED AND THEN REHABILITATED THROUGH OUR NEW TOWN COMMUNITY LAND TRUST PROGRAM.

AND FINALLY, 40 HOUSEHOLDS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, MOVED INTO HOUSING THROUGH OUR TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

FURTHER, UH, RESIDENTS USE UTILIZING PUBLIC HOUSING AND HOUSING CHOICE OR SECTION EIGHT VOUCHERS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR FAMILY SELF-SUFFICIENCY PROGRAM, WHICH HELPS THEM SAVE MONEY TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF THEIR OWN HOME.

THIS PAST YEAR SIX PARTICIPANTS WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE THEIR OWN HOMES AND 77 ADDITIONAL PARTICIPANTS CONTINUE TO SAVE FOR THAT FUTURE PURCHASE.

CDBG, AS YOU KNOW, ALSO SUPPORTS A VARIETY OF PUBLIC SERVICES, WHICH ARE DIRECTLY ADMINISTERED TO CHANDLER RESIDENTS THROUGH THESE PROGRAMS 367 CHILDREN RESIDING IN OUR PUBLIC HOUSING WERE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN PROGRAMS LIKE READ TO SUCCEED.

10 RESIDENTS RECEIVED FAIR HOUSING EDUCATION, WHICH IS DESIGNED TO PREVENT HOUSING DISCRIMINATION, 171 INDIVIDUALS RECEIVED HOMELESS OUTREACH SERVICES RIGHT HERE IN CHANDLER 94, INDIVIDUALS RECEIVED EMERGENCY SHELTER OR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND 850 INDIVIDUALS RECEIVED HOUSING STABILITY CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES TO HELP THEM MAINTAIN THEIR HOUSING.

I'D LIKE TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR SUCCESS IN SUPPORTING NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION EFFORTS.

LAST FISCAL YEAR, WE CONTINUED TO IMPROVE NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGH CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES IN CDBG ELIGIBLE AREAS.

UH, OUR CDBG FUNDS SUPPORTED 1.5 FULL-TIME POSITIONS, AND THOSE POSITIONS WERE ABLE TO CONDUCT OVER 18,000 PROPERTY INSPECTIONS RESULTING IN OVER A THOUSAND VIOLATIONS AND 747 NOTICES.

AND THROUGH THAT PROCESS, FIVE HOUSEHOLDS WERE ALSO REFERRED TO OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS TO RECEIVE ASSISTANCE.

THAT WAS ALL OBVIOUSLY A VERY BRIEF SUMMARY OF SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF OUR WORK IN THE LAST YEAR, BUT YOU CAN FIND THE FULL CAPER REPORT AS WELL.

AND AS IT, AS WELL AS AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY ONLINE@CHANDLERAC.GOV SLASH PLANS AND REPORTS UNDER THE PAPER SECTION, UM, THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD BEGAN ON OCTOBER 27TH AND IT ENDS ON TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 10TH.

THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE FINAL REPORT THAT WILL COME BEFORE YOU, UM, ON DECEMBER 10TH, UM, ONCE WE OBTAIN APPROVAL, UM, WE WILL BE SUBMITTING THIS REPORT TO HUD THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC.

WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DELAYED DEADLINE OF DECEMBER 27TH.

SO I KNOW THAT WAS QUICK, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.

AND I WOULD ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, COUNSEL, ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS,

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COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

REALLY PROUD OF WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.

SEEING NO ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION FROM CONSOLE.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION FROM OUR AUDIENCE SEEING NONE LIKE THE CLOSE OUR PUBLIC HEARING COUNSEL NEXT? DO WE HAVE NO UNSCHEDULED PUBLIC APPEARANCES TONIGHT? I DO NOT HAVE ANY CARDS.

ALL RIGHT, THANK

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YOU.

NEXT ON OUR AGENDA, THEN COUNCIL IS COMMENTS, WHICH I WAS SCARRING.

EXCELLENT.

GOT THREE THINGS TO JUST BRING BEFORE YOU ALL TONIGHT.

THE FIRST IS OUR, I CHOOSE CHANDLER PPE KITS.

EARLIER THIS WEEK, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO JOIN OUR ECONOMIC TEAM AND THE CHANDLER CHAMBER DID DISTRIBUTE THE FIRST BATCH OF FREE PPE KITS TO APPROVED BUSINESSES AT THE, AT THE CHANDLER FASHION CENTER.

WE DISTRIBUTED KITS TO, UH, UH, MANY, MANY BUSINESSES THROUGHOUT THE DAY, AND IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO CHAT WITH THESE BUSINESSES AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THEIR NEEDS RIGHT NOW, COUNSEL, I CAN SAY THAT, UH, EVERY SINGLE BUSINESS THAT CAME FORTH AND RECEIVED THIS, THIS, UH, PACKAGE OF MATERIAL FROM US WAS EXTREMELY APPRECIATIVE BOTH OF THE CHAMBER AND OF THE CITY AND OUR PARTNERSHIP TO DO THE SAME.

SO WE DO WANT TO SAY THAT IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN YOU QUALIFY FOR A FREE PPE KIT, YOU CAN VISIT THE LINK ON THE SCREENS AND, UH, COUNSEL.

I, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU EACH TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY IF YOUR SCHEDULE PREVAILS TO DO THE SAME, YOU'LL FIND THIS, UH, UH, HEARTWARMING, UH, MORNING TO GO WORK WITH OUR SMALL BUSINESSES AND, UH, HELP THEM IN THIS REGARD.

SECONDLY, I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT A NEW PROGRAM THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORTH, UH, CALLED CIVIC.

I BELIEVE CIVIC ENGAGEMENT IS VITAL TO PROPERLY ADDRESS THE NEEDS AND FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY.

SO MY NEWEST INITIATIVE CIVIC WILL HELP RESIDENTS BETTER ENGAGE WITH OUR CITY.

CIVIC IS AN INTERACTIVE 10 SESSION PROGRAM PROVIDING CHANDLER RESIDENTS WITH BEHIND THE SCENES.

LOOK AT CITY SERVICES.

THIS FREE PROGRAM WILL LAUNCH ON JANUARY, 2021.

AND EACH SESSION PARTICIPANTS WILL MEET WITH CITY LEADERS TOUR FACILITIES THAT KEEP OUR CITY RUNNING, PARTICIPATE IN INTERACTIVE SESSIONS AND LEARN HOW TO STAY ENGAGED WITH THE CITY AND IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND JUST AS WE RECENTLY MOTIVATED 35 PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR BOND ELECTION, THIS WILL FURTHER ENGAGE CITIZENS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND JOSH, RIGHT.

THAT WAS A GREAT PICTURE OF YOU ON THE, UH, THE PIECE THERE THAT BY ITSELF WOULD MAKE THE WANT TO APPLY.

YOU CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT THIS AND APPLY ONLINE.

LASTLY, I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT VOTER TURNOUT AS OF 11 FIVE AT 12:53 AM VOTER TURNOUT.

WAS IT 73.4, 3% WITH 100, 123,796 CHANDLER VOTERS CASTING BALLOTS OUT OF A VOTER POPULATION OF 168,598.

SO A TREMENDOUS RESPONSE FROM OUR COMMUNITY AS WE'RE SEEING AROUND THE STATE AND THE NATION OF PEOPLE BEING ENGAGED IN, IN POLITICS.

AND I, UH, REGARDLESS OF, UH, WHO PEOPLE VOTED FOR APPLAUD PEOPLE'S, UH, TAKING THE TIME AND ENERGY TO EXERCISE THEIR CIVIC, RIGHT? THEIR DUTY.

CURRENTLY, WE ALSO, UH, WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH SOUTHWEST GAS, THE FRANCHISE QUESTION IT'S PASSING, OR THE FRANCHISE 65,095 AND AGAINST THE THOUSAND AGAINST THE FRANCHISE, 34,680.

SO I DON'T KNOW THE NEW RESULTS THAT WERE RELEASED AS OF SEVEN.

SO CLOCK TONIGHT.

SO CERTAINLY THERE'S A NEW BATCH OF RESULTS.

I BELIEVE THAT WERE ALSO RELEASED.

AND FINALLY, I DO WANT TO WISH EVERYONE A HAPPY THANKSGIVING.

THIS IS OUR LAST MEETING BEFORE THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY, WE HAVE SO MUCH TO BE GRATEFUL FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I'M GRATEFUL TO EACH OF YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR YOUR WORK, UH, IN TAKING THIS JOB SERIOUSLY TO OUR CITY STAFF AND TO ALL WHO MAKE CHANDLER AND A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART.

THANK YOU, MARA IS MOVING INTO THE HOLIDAYS.

I CAN'T BELIEVE IT.

AND WE WILL BE, UH, DOING SOME CHRISTMAS SHOPPING SOON, WHICH IS WHY I NEED TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE CHANDLER MUSEUM STORE GRAND OPENING.

CELEBRATE THE CHANDLER MUSEUM STORE OPENING BY SHOPPING WITH US THIS WEEK, YOU'LL FIND ONE OF A KIND GIFT ITEMS, INCLUDING LOCALLY MADE PIECES OF THAT CAPTURE THE CULTURE HISTORY AND THE ART OF OUR WONDERFUL CITY OF CHANDLER.

THERE ARE GIVEAWAYS AND DEALS EACH WEEK THROUGH SATURDAY

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AND ON NOVEMBER 29TH, JUST IN TIME FOR HOLIDAY SHOPPING, WE'RE CELEBRATING MUSEUM STORE SUNDAY.

COULD WE MAKE THAT UP? CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY, THAT'S PRETTY UNIQUE, A WORLDWIDE INITIATIVE TO ENCOURAGE COMMUNITIES TO BE A PATRON OF THEIR LOCAL MUSEUM STORES.

THE MUSEUM STORE IS LOCATED IN THE LOBBY OF THE CHANDLER MUSEUM.

AND YOU CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT ON THE CHANNEL AHEAD.

I WONDER THE LAST I HEARD, I THINK THERE WAS A BIG ELECTION ON TUESDAY.

UM, AND SOME PEOPLE ARE BUZZING AROUND ABOUT IT AND THERE'S SHARPIE GATE.

THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS GOING ON, BUT I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I CALLED UP ONE OF OUR COUNTY SUPERVISORS TODAY.

WE HAD A NICE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH, WITH OUR PARTICULAR ELECTION.

AND I WANTED TO, UH, LIKE MAYBE SETTLE SOME OF MY FEARS AND I THINK MAYBE SOME OTHER FOLKS FEARS AND THAT WE, UM, DID HE, HE SAID THAT THE BALLOT COUNTING PROCESS IS GOING EXACTLY AS PLANNED.

THE CHALLENGE IS, IS THAT, UM, A LOT OF FOLKS WAITED TO LAST MINUTE, TICK THOSE GREEN BALLOTS.

AND THEY TOOK THEM TO THE POLLS, LIKE A LOTS OF PEOPLE.

I WAS OUT AT THE POLLS ON TUESDAY, WE'RE WALKING UP WITH THEIR BALLOTS.

THE THING IS THAT THOSE BALLOTS HAVE TO BE COUNTED, BUT THEY FIRST HAVE TO CHECK THE SIGNATURE.

AND THERE ARE TONS OF BALLOTS A LOT MORE THAN TWO YEARS AGO, UH, TO CHECK.

AND SO THAT'S, WHAT'S PUTTING THEM BEHIND 150, MORE, 150,000 MORE DROP TONIGHT EXPECTING ANOTHER 150,000 TO DROP TOMORROW.

BUT HE SAID THAT THE SHARPIE ISSUE IS NOT AN ISSUE WITH THESE NEW MACHINES ARE ACTUALLY BETTER.

UM, BECAUSE THE, UH, THE GEL INK WAS ACTUALLY SMUDGING A LITTLE BIT.

UH, BUT THE ACTUAL SHARPIES WERE BETTER BECAUSE THEY DRIED FASTER.

SO THEY'RE BRAND NEW MACHINES.

THEY ALL THE COUNTY SUPERVISORS BOUGHT BRAND NEW MACHINE.

SO I GUESS THE TAKEAWAY OR THE BIG TAKEAWAY FROM ALL THIS IS THAT EVERYTHING'S FINE AND IT'S GOING AS PLANNED.

AND THERE'S NOTHING NECESSARILY NEFARIOUS GOING ON WITH SHARPIES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO LET THE PROCESS WORK.

AND IF THERE'S AN OVERCOUNT OR IF THERE'S OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT, THAT WE MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT, WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT LATER, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'LL GET THE BALLOTS THROUGH AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.

COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLYMONDS, YOU'RE LOOKING VERY SHARPIE TONIGHT OVER THE CLOUDS.

UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THERE'S ONLY 57 DAYS LEFT UNTIL 2021.

UH, THE, UH, AND THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

THAT'S VARIED TO LISTEN TO OUR WONDERFUL ANNOUNCEMENTS, BUT YOU HAVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS ONCE AGAIN, COLLECTING TOYS TO HELP BRIGHTEN THE HOLIDAY SEASON FOR CHANDLER CHILDREN WHO MIGHT OTHERWISE GO WITHOUT THIS YEAR.

ANNUAL TOY DRIVE WILL BE HELD AT CHANDLER FASHION CENTER FROM TWO TO 8:00 PM.

SATURDAY, DECEMBER 5TH.

THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE EVENT WILL BE THE ENCHANTED FIRE VILLAGE, A SPECIAL, A HOLIDAY WONDERLAND BUILT BY THE CHAIRMAN FIREFIGHTERS WITH DECORATED FIRETRUCKS.

FOR THOSE WHO CANNOT ATTEND THE DECEMBER 5TH EVENT AT THE MALL TOY OR GIFT CARD DONATIONS MAY BE DROPPED OFF OR MAILED TO THE CHANDLER FIRE HEADQUARTERS STARTING NOVEMBER 9TH THROUGH DECEMBER 11TH, YOU CAN LEARN MORE ON OUR WEBSITE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

ALONG WITH THANKSGIVING COMING THIS MONTH, VETERANS DAY IS ALSO COMING.

SO NEXT WEEK, CHANDLER CITY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED ON WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 11TH.

IN OBSERVATION OF VETERAN'S DAY.

I WANT TO THANK ALL OF OUR VETERANS FOR THEIR SERVICE AND BROTHERS, SISTERS THAT SERVED IN ARMS IN SACRIFICE FOR OUR COUNTRY AND FREEDOMS. IN HONOR OF VETERANS DAY, THE CITY'S DIVERSITY OFFICE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CHANDLER MUSEUM HAS CREATED THE FIRST ANNUAL CHANDLER VETERANS PATH OF HONOR THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO EXPERIENCE.

STARTING FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 6TH, RESIDENTS ARE INVITED TO TAKE A LEISURELY WALK ALONG THE PATH OF HONOR AT VETERANS OASIS PARK, LARGE SIGNS FEATURING NEARLY 20 VETERANS WILL BE ON DISPLAY AND PLACED ALONG THE TRAIL THROUGH THE END OF NOVEMBER.

SO PLEASE COME OUT AND SUPPORT OUR VETERANS AND GIVE THANK YOU TO YOUR FELLOW VETERAN OUT THERE.

YOU CAN GO TO THE WEBSITE, SHOWS UP TO LEARN MORE.

GENDERS ARE VULNERABLE FEMINISTS.

YOU GOT TO WATCH AT THIS TIME THAT'S A MEMBER WALL.

SO I HAVE BEEN KEPT, UH, SAYING THAT WINTER IS COMING.

SO IT FINALLY IS HERE.

UH, SO HAPPY SINCE GIVING, UM, THIS IS HOLIDAY.

UH, WE ARE, WE ARE COME AND GO.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A HOLIDAY SEASON.

GENDER IS NON-PROFIT.

UM, ORGANIZATION HAS A RICH TRADITION OF HOLIDAY GIVING.

SO ANYWHERE COMMUNITY TOY DRIVES AS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MCKENNA'S SAID, UM, HOLIDAY MEALS FOR BANKS AND GIBBS SHARING COVID-19 IN PETS HAVE INCREASED THE NEEDS FOR DONATIONS AND SUPPORT AMOUNT.

SO WE ARE ENCOURAGING RESIDENTS WHO ARE ABLE AND WILLING TO DONATE TIME ITEMS OR DOLLARS TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY

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IN WHATEVER WAY THEY CAN.

SO WE HAVE COMPRESSOR LISTS OF WAYS TO GIVE THIS SEASON ON OUR WEBSITE, PRE CHECK THE SCREEN.

UH, SECOND THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, UH, I HAD BEEN IN THE UNITED STATES FOR MORE THAN 28 YEARS EXPERIENCED SEVEN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

UH, WE HAVE A ROYAL HIGH TO TURN UP, UH, THIS TIME.

UM, ALSO, IT'S ALSO PROBABLY THE MOST UGLY IT ACTION.

UH, I HA I HAD EVER SEEN SO MANY NUMEROUS, SO MANY VIOLENCE, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, PLEASE HAVE A COMBATANTS ON OUR NATION HAVE COMBATANTS ON OUR POLL WORKERS HAVE COMPETENCE ON, UH, THE PEOPLE WHO WORK BEHIND THE THING.

AND I PERIOD, THEY AT THE REGION, THEY ARE DOING THEIR JOB.

SO PLEASE DON'T LISTEN TO ANY NEW AND DON'T LISTEN TO ANYTHING THAT'S UNREASONABLE, USE YOUR GOOD JUDGMENT AND THAT'S COME DOWN AND ENJOY OUR LIFE HERE IN THIS COUNTRY.

ENJOY OUR HARMONY SOCIETY AND START TO LOVE EACH OTHER, EVEN IF YOU SUPPORTING DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

DEFINITELY THANK YOU TO ALL THE WONDERFUL STAFF THAT IS SITTING HERE LATE INTO THE EVENING.

I WILL JUST TRY AND MAKE MY REMARKS SHORT.

I WILL TELL YOU THIS MORNING, I WAS HONORED TO PARTICIPATE IN A GRAND OPENING AT THE NEW ALDI'S SHOP ON QUEEN CREEK AND ALMA SCHOOL ROAD, NORTHWEST CORNER, ALONG WITH THE MAYOR AND SEVERAL OTHER COUNCIL PEOPLE, UH, UM, TERRY KIMBALL AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, UH, WERE THERE AND, UM, HELPED ALDI LAUNCH.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS.

MY WIFE DO WHAT IT WAS.

SHE CALLED ME AND SAID, GET AVOCADOS ARE 25 CENTS A PIECE.

SO, UH, SO ANYWAY, IT'S A VERY NEAT LITTLE NEW RETAIL PLACE, AND I HOPE PEOPLE WILL CHECK THAT OUT.

AND, UM, SO AT THE END OF THE, AND THEN MY SCRIPTED COMMENTS HERE, UM, TALKING ABOUT HOLIDAY GIVING, I WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO TEAM CHANDLER FOR THEIR EFFORTS IN GIVING BACK THIS SEASON SO FAR, AND IT IS THE SEASON.

AND IF YOU'RE NOT READY, YOU BETTER GET READY.

AND, UH, SO IN OCTOBER, NEARLY $500 WAS RAISED AND DONATED TO THE ACTS OF KINDNESS PROGRAM, WHICH SUPPORTS A VARIETY OF HUMAN SERVICE PROGRAMS THAT PROVIDE BASIC NEEDS, SUCH AS FOOD, SHELTER, CLOTHING, MEDICAL SERVICES, TRANSPORTATION, AND UTILITY BILL ASSISTANCE TO LOW INCOME CHANDLER RESIDENTS AND ALSO TEAM CHANDLER PARTICIPATED IN A SENSE DRESS.

THE TURKEY FUND DRIVE, UM, CITY EMPLOYEES DONATED 74 TURKEYS AND, UH, 2000 POUNDS AND COUNTING OF CANNED GOODS AND NON-PERISHABLE ITEMS. THANK YOU TO OUR WONDERFUL EMPLOYEES.

THOSE THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT, THOSE THAT ARE WORKING, UM, THROUGH INCREDIBLE HOURS.

WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU DON'T THINK WE CARE, I CARE, I'M SORRY THAT YOU'RE, UH, HAVING TO WORK ALL NIGHT, BUT THANK YOU FOR HELPING US KEEP THE LIGHTS ON AND TO HAVE A GREAT HOLIDAY AND THANK YOU FOR GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND TO SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY.

HAPPY HOLIDAYS.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

AS, UM, LAST MONDAY, WE APPROVED A RESOLUTION FOR SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY.

UM, ACTUALLY EVERYDAY SHOULD BE SMALL BUSINESS, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, SHOPPING AT LOCAL SMALL BUSINESS.

SO ALTHOUGH WE DO DESIGNATE ONE DAY A YEAR, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THAT.

AND NOT ONLY FOR OBVIOUSLY THE SMALL BUSINESS AND THEIR SURVIVAL, BUT ALSO FOR OUR ECONOMY.

UH, WE TALKED ABOUT POLICE FIRE, ALL THE FOLKS OUT HERE, SOMEONE HAS TO HELP PAY FOR THEIR SALARIES TO MAKE THE CITY IS CONTINUING MAKING THIS COMMUNITY A GREAT COMMUNITY, BUT FOR EVERY HUNDRED DOLLARS SPENT IN A LOCALLY OWNED BUSINESS, AN AVERAGE OF $43 REMAINS IN OUR ECONOMY.

WHEREAS ONLY $13 REMAINS IN OUR ECONOMY WHEN SPENT ON A NON LOCALLY OWNED SMALL BUSINESS.

SO DON'T GO TO MESA, DON'T GO TO GILBERT, STAY IN CHANDLER AND LET'S KEEP THIS CITY THRIVING.

SORRY, GILBERT MAY.

SO I'M SURE THEY'RE SAYING THE SAME THING ABOUT US.

DON'T GO TO CHANDLER.

DON'T GO TO YET, BUT WE'RE GOOD.

THANKS.

I HAVE SEEN GILBERT CITY MANAGER EATING DOWNTOWN CHANDLER QUITE A FEW TIMES.

HE'S A SMART MAN CITY MANAGER, JUST FOR THE RECORD.

YOUR CITY MANAGER NEVER EATS IN GILBERT.

ONLY KIDDING.

I HAVE NOTHING ELSE, MAN.

ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL.