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[CALL TO ORDER]

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WELL, GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO OH SEPTEMBER 14TH, 2020.

WE'RE

[1.Presentation and discussion of the community needs assessment as part of the Park StrategicMaster Plan.]

LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF THINGS TONIGHT CONCERNING OUR PART'S STRATEGIC MASTER PLAN AND PRESENTATIONS.

THIS WILL BE FOR DISCUSSION ONLY, UH, PLEASE CALL THE, UH, CALL THE STARTER HERE.

YEAH, THAT'S A MEMBER.

STEWART IS ON HIS WAY.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, FINANCE COUNCIL MEMBER LONG.

THAT'S A MEMBER ROW THAT'S MEMBER ORLANDO.

YOU HAVE A FORUM.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, CITY CLERK AT THIS POINT, LET ME TURN THIS OVER TO A PRETTY GOOD MR. COUNCIL MEMBER STORY, CARRYING THIS OVER TO YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, AS A REMINDER, AS MAYOR SAID, UM, COUNCIL DID APPROVE A CONTRACT FOR CONSULTING FIRM PROS CONSULTING HERE A FEW MONTHS AGO FOR THE UPDATE TO THE CITY'S, UH, PARKS MASTER PLAN.

UM, AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, UM, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS MASTER PLAN DURING THESE LAST FEW MONTHS, UH, TONIGHT, UH, ANDY BASS AND ALONG WITH OUR CONSULTANT TEAM IS GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU, UH, THE RESULTS OF A LOT OF THE PUBLIC INPUT.

JUST KEEPING IN MIND THAT THIS IS ONE DATA POINT AND WE STILL HAVE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS AND EVERYTHING THAT BE COMING BACK TO YOU LATER, BUT DEFINITELY WANTED TO GET THIS IN FRONT OF COUNCIL PRIOR TO YOU.

UM, SOME MORE DISCUSSION THAT I BELIEVE WILL BE RELEASED TOMORROW.

SO WITH THAT, WE'LL GIVE IT OVER TO ANDY BASS, OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UH, THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER, UM, AS WAS NOTED, OUR GOAL TONIGHT IS TO PRESENT THE RESULTS OF THE COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT WAS PERFORMED IN CONNECTION WITH OUR PARK'S STRATEGIC MASTER PLAN.

UH, THIS INFO IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

UM, NOT ONLY IS IT A SCIENTIFICALLY VALID SURVEY, UM, BUT IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST REPRESENTATIVE SURVEY, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RESIDENTS OF CHANDLER AND ALTHOUGH WE DID RECEIVE A LARGE, UH, PARTICIPATION RATE AND A LOT OF INFORMATION, UM, OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS WAS VERY ROBUST AND THIS IS ONLY ONE OF MANY OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE HAD.

UM, AND THOSE INCLUDE, WE DO HAVE A PROJECT WEBSITE THAT HAS BEEN UP FROM THE START OF THIS PROJECT.

UH, IT'S A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO AND GET UPDATES ON THE PROJECT, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THEY CAN ALSO PROVIDE COMMENTS.

AND, UH, TODAY I THINK WE RECEIVED OVER 200 COMMENTS, UH, THROUGH THIS WEBSITE.

SO IT'S BEEN A VERY EFFECTIVE TOOL AS WELL.

WE ALSO HELD AN INTERNAL FOCUS GROUP WITH, UH, CITY STAFF AND CITY LEADERSHIP.

WE'VE MET WITH OUR PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD, AND WE HAD A SPECIAL MEETING WITH OUR, UH, OUR ATHLETIC SPORT LEAGUE PROVIDERS.

UH, THOSE WHO DO OUR YOUTH SPORTS AS WELL AS ADULT SPORTS, BASICALLY ANYONE WHO RESERVES THE FIELD, UH, HERE IN CHANDLER WAS INVITED TO THIS MEETING AND WE HAD A GREAT DISCUSSION AND HEARD WHAT THEIR CURRENT NEEDS ARE AND WHAT THEY SEE AS THEIR FUTURE NEEDS OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS, UM, EVEN WITHOUT, AND THEN ALSO WE HAD A VIRTUAL, UM, COMMUNITY MEETING, UM, WHICH WAS GREAT.

IT WAS A GREAT TURNOUT, EVEN THOUGH THIS COVID, WE FOUND WAYS TO TRY TO REACH PEOPLE.

WE HAD OVER 60 PEOPLE ATTEND OUR FIRST VIRTUAL MEETING BACK IN JUNE, AND WE HAVE OUR SECOND FOLLOWUP VIRTUAL MEETING TOMORROW, WHICH HAS OVER 60 PEOPLE AGAIN, ARE REGISTERED TO PARTICIPATE.

SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND EXCITEMENT OVER THIS PROJECT.

SO WHILE TONIGHT'S RESULTS, THAT WILL BE, THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO YOU ARE SPECIFIC TO THE SURVEY.

IT'S JUST VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE PARK'S STRATEGIC MASTER PLAN WILL INCLUDE ALL OF THESE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, UM, EVERYTHING WE'VE HEARD, UM, AND EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE LEARNED AS WELL AS OUR PARK ASSESSMENTS THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING PERFORMED ON EACH ONE OF OUR PARKS.

SO WHEN THIS IS ALL WRAPPED UP, WE WILL HAVE OUR PUBLIC INPUT AS WELL AS KIND OF A SURVEY OF OUR EXISTING NEED OR EXISTING SITUATION IN OUR PARK.

AND IT WILL COME FORTH AS A RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT.

UM, AND WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN OVER TO MIKE SPENCE, WHO IS WITH PROS CONSULTING, WHO IS ONE OF OUR CONSULTANTS WORKING ON THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU, ANDY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL CITY MANAGER, APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN UPDATE.

UH, IT, I THINK THAT'S IN ESSENCE WHERE WE'RE AT, UM, THE, THE BEST WAY TO SAY THIS IS, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, PARKS IN PARTICULAR ARE MEANT TO BE USED BY THE PUBLIC.

AND SO IT IS EXCEPTIONALLY IMPORTANT TO FIND OUT THE NEEDS OF YOUR COMMUNITY, BOTH, UM, NEEDS THAT ARE BEING MET AS WELL AS UNMET NEEDS.

UM, THIS KIND OF CULMINATES WHAT WE WOULD CALL PHASE.

ONE OF THE PROJECT PHASE TWO IS GOING TO BE A MUCH MORE TECHNICAL PHASE AND

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I'LL BRIEF YOU ON THAT AT THE END.

UM, BUT REALLY, UH, TONIGHT IS JUST ABOUT PROVIDING YOU INFORMATION ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS TO DATE, UH, THE KEY FINDINGS, UM, AND THEN OUR NEXT STEPS.

SO, UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A SYSTEM WIDE PLAN, BUT WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT IT IN FOUR DIFFERENT AREAS.

UM, THERE ARE FOUR PARK PLANNING AREAS ASSOCIATED WITH, UM, CHANDLER.

AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO, TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS IN EACH OF THESE COMMUNITY AREAS AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THERE'S ALSO POTENTIALLY DIFFERENT NEEDS.

AND SO THOUGH WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS AS A SYSTEM WIDE PLAN, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE MAKING VERY SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH EACH OF THESE PARK PLANNING AREAS.

SO OUR PUBLIC INPUT IS EXCEPTIONALLY COLLABORATIVE, BUT IT'S ALSO BAD TO BE, UM, VERY CREATIVE DURING COVID BECAUSE, UH, WE REALLY, UM, KICK THIS PROJECT OFF RIGHT AT ABOUT THE TIME THAT THAT COVID STARTED AT LEAST THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SIDE OF THE EQUATION.

SO AT THE CENTER OF ANY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESSES, OBVIOUSLY YOUR RESIDENTS, UM, WE'VE DONE A, A VERY GOOD JOB OF CREATING CURIOSITY ABOUT THE PLAN.

UH, AS MR. BASS HAD MENTIONED, UH, WE'VE HAD, UH, OVER 200 INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS, UH, COME IN VIA THE PROJECT WEBSITE.

WE ALSO NEED TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THIS PLAN IS, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT THE PLAN IS NOT.

UM, THIS IS NOT ABOUT DOING A SITE SPECIFIC PARK MASTER PLAN AT A CERTAIN PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S ABOUT TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AND CREATE EQUITY AND BALANCE FOR YOUR SYSTEM.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT IN OUR COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE PUBLIC.

UM, WE NEED TO CREATE CONFIDENCE, UH, AND THIS IS NOT JUST CONFIDENCE THAT FOLKS, UH, REALIZE THAT THEIR VOICE HAS BEEN HEARD, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO REALIZE THAT, UM, WE NEED TO CREATE CONFIDENCE THAT NOT JUST THAT THEIR VOICE HAS BEEN HEARD, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE ACTED UPON, UM, THIS IS PART OF BUILDING ADVOCACY FOR THE PLAN, UM, AT THE BEGINNING IN THE MIDDLE.

YEAH, WELL, AND AT THE END AND THAT, AS I MENTIONED, WE'VE HAD TO BE VERY CREATIVE.

SO SOME OF OUR CREATIVE ENGAGEMENT PROCESSES HAVE BEEN A REALLY, UM, A COMBINATION OF IN-PERSON PRIOR TO BASICALLY THE MIDDLE OF MARCH AND THEN REALLY RELYING ON TECHNOLOGY IN A, IN A VERY TECHNOLOGY DRIVEN COMMUNITY, UM, WHETHER IT BE THROUGH PROJECT WEBSITE AND OR THE VIRTUAL COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

SO, UM, THE PROJECT WEBSITE IS AVAILABLE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROJECT.

I WANT IT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT THOUGH WE ARE, UM, KIND OF ACCOMMODATING PHASE ONE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN THIS PROJECT DOES NOT STOP.

UM, IT IS A CONTINUAL CONFLICT CONSISTENT, UM, OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO ENGAGE FOR US TO RECEIVE THEIR FEEDBACK AND FOR US TO CONSIDER IT AS WE GO FORWARD.

BUT WE DID HAVE INTERNAL FOCUS GROUP MEETINGS WITH CITY STAFF IN FEBRUARY, THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD, UH, WHICH WE'LL BE MEETING AGAIN WITH, UM, IN MARCH OR I'M SORRY, IN OCTOBER, UM, THAT SPORTS GROUP STAKEHOLDER MEETING THE STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY AND THAT VIRTUAL COMMUNITY MEETING THAT WAS HELD IN JUNE.

SO THIS IS JUST A SNAPSHOT OF THE PROJECT WEBSITE, UH, THE, UM, THE WEB LINK.

IT BASICALLY, IF YOU GOOGLE IT OR YOU'RE BEING IT OR WHATEVER SEARCH ENGINE YOU CHOOSE, IF YOU WERE TO JUST TYPE IN CHA, UH, PLAN CHANDLER, UM, THIS WAS THE FIRST ONE THAT, THAT POPS UP.

SO, UM, AS, UH, MR. BASS HAD MENTIONED, WE HAVE RECEIVED OVER 200 INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS THROUGH THAT WEBSITE.

WE DID A VIRTUAL COMMUNITY MEETING ON JUNE 23RD.

UM, AND, UM, HOW DID LET PEOPLE KNOW? I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, TO, TO LET PEOPLE KNOW, BUT, UH, WE HAD DIRECT EMAIL, UM, INVITES TO THE, FROM THE DEPARTMENTS CUSTOMER DATABASE.

UM, AT THAT TIME WE HAD 191 INDIVIDUALS PARTICIPATE AND THEY RECEIVED AN INDIVIDUAL EMAIL, UM, UH, FROM INVITE TO, TO PARTICIPATE IN THE VIRTUAL COMMUNITY MEETING.

AND THEN OF COURSE THERE WERE CITY PRESS RELEASES, UH, POSTINGS ON THE PROJECT WEBSITE, THE CITY WEBSITE, AND OF COURSE, SOCIAL MEDIA.

SO, UM, WE DID ACTUALLY END UP WITH 116 PARTICIPANTS IN THAT MEETING.

AND I THOUGHT IT WAS ACTUALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO RECOGNIZE WHERE THOSE FOLKS CAME FROM ASSOCIATED WITH THE PARK PLANNING AREAS.

AND IT WAS FAIRLY WELL BALANCED, UM, A LITTLE LESS IN THE SOUTHWEST PART OF YOUR COMMUNITY.

UM, BUT ALSO, UM, VERY WELL BALANCED WEST, NORTH AND SOUTHEAST.

SO THE STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY, UM, IS AN EXCEPTIONALLY DEFENSIBLE MECHANISM, AND I KNOW YOU ALL ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS.

UM,

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BUT WE ISSUED THIS IN OVER THE SUMMER.

UM, LONG STORY SHORT, UH, WE, OUR GOAL WAS TO, UM, ACHIEVE 500.

UM, AND, UH, INITIALLY WE WERE LOOKING TO ACHIEVE 500, UM, FROM OUT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

WE DID END UP WITH SIX 52, BUT AS PART OF THAT 652 IN KEEPING WITH, UH, CREATING BALANCE AND UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU HAVE FOUR PARK PLANNING AREAS, WE'VE ALSO CREATED SOME ANALYSIS ASSOCIATED WITH EACH OF THOSE FAR FOUR PARK PLANNING AREAS, BUT THE 652 SURVEYS BASICALLY MEANS THAT IF YOU DID THIS SURVEY 95, A HUNDRED TIMES, YOU WOULD GET THE SAME RESULTS, 95 OUT OF A HUNDRED WITH THAT PLUS OR MINUS OF ABOUT 3.8%, UM, IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE SURVEY NEEDED TO BE DEMOGRAPHICALLY AND GEOGRAPHICALLY BALANCED.

UH, THIS IS A SCATTER PLOT MAP OF ALL OF THE DOTS THAT REPRESENT WHERE, UM, SURVEY RESPONSES CAME FROM.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT AS A VERY WELL BALANCED IN, IN ALL OF YOUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS, UM, THROUGHOUT THE, UM, THROUGHOUT YOUR CITY.

SO ADVOCACY IS THE VERY FIRST SET OF INFORMATION WE WANT TO REVIEW, UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, ASKING FOLKS, UH, IF THEY, UM, HOW IMPORTANT HIGH QUALITY PARK EXPERIENCES ARE TO QUALITY OF LIFE.

I'M SORRY.

WE'VE GOT A QUESTION.

OH, YES, SIR.

SORRY, MIKE.

RIGHT.

MICHAEL STRAUS STRAUS, I'M SORRY, MR. GUS, UM, BEFORE WE GET STARTED ON THE SURVEY, HOW DID YOU INCORPORATE THE OTHER SEVERAL HUNDRED, 300 SOMETHING INPUTS YOU GOT ON THIS MASTER PLAN? HOW, I'M SORRY, ONE MORE TIME.

INCORPORATE THOSE COMMENTS INTO THE MASTER PLAN.

SO HOW WE WILL INCORPORATE THAT IS IT'S THE METHODOLOGY BETWEEN TAKING QUALITATIVE AND QUANTITATIVE DATA.

UM, AND SO THE IDEA BEHIND THE QUALITATIVE DATA, THE, THE NARRATIVE THAT WE RECEIVED FROM FOLKS, WHETHER IT BE THROUGH FOCUS GROUPS OR WEBSITES, IS TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT THE KEY THEMES ARE AND OR WHAT THE, UM, AND HOW THEY ALIGN THEN WITH THE STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY.

UM, WE HAVE HAD, UH, VERY SPECIFIC COMMENTS TO HAVING A DRAINAGE BASIN, UM, IN, IN THE ORANGE, UH, ORANGE WOOD NEIGHBORHOOD AREA, UH, CONVERTED TO A PARK TO SOMETHING VERY GENERAL ABOUT NEEDING MORE SPLASH PADS OR SHADE OR TREES.

SO THE IDEA IS, IS TO UNDERSTAND THE, THE RELATIONSHIP AND THE CONSISTENCY THAT WE'RE SEEING BETWEEN THE STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY AND THE WEBSITE COMMENTS.

I CAN SAY WITH CONFIDENCE THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED A LOT OF SYNERGY BETWEEN BOTH, UM, THE, THE COMMENTS OF THE COMMUNITY HAS MADE, UH, AS WELL AS THESE STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY RESULTS.

SO AGAIN, HOW DO YOU INCORPORATE THAT? I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE, FROM A METHODOLOGY PERSPECTIVE, YOU HAVE STATISTICAL ANALYSIS.

DID THEY ANSWER THE SAME QUESTION? THAT'S THE STATISTICAL ANALYSIS INDIVIDUALS, OR THEY JUST GAVE YOU THOSE OPEN ENDED COMMENTS.

THEY ARE JUST PROVIDING OPEN-ENDED COMMENTS THAT HELP TO FRAME KIND OF WHAT SOME OF THE VERY KEY THEMES ARE ASSOCIATED WITH WHERE THE PARK AND RECREATION THE PARK SYSTEM NEEDS TO GO TO MEET THEIR NEEDS.

HEY, SO, SO THE, THE METHODOLOGY IS THAT WE CREATE A WAITING SYSTEM OF 65% ON THIS STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY AND 35% BASED ON THE QUALITATIVE OPEN-ENDED RESPONSES THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE COMMUNITY.

SO THEN HOW IS THAT INCORPORATED INTO THE DATA YOU'RE ABOUT TO SHOW US NOW, OR IS IT, IT IS, IT WILL BE INCORPORATED AS WE GO FORWARD.

AS I SAID, WE WANTED TO GET FEEDBACK, UM, TOMORROW NIGHT AS WELL, UM, THROUGH THE, UH, THROUGH THE VIRTUAL COMMUNITY MEETING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, UM, BUT IT WILL BASICALLY BE INTERFACED AND, AND WE'RE GOING, GONNA ALIGN, UM, WHAT WE WOULD CALL KIND OF THE KEY THEMES THAT COME OUT OF THIS STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY WITH THE KEY THEMES THAT COME OUT OF THE QUALITATIVE INPUT THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM A CITY AS A WHOLE.

BUT THEN ALSO WE WILL TAKE THAT VERY SPECIFIC INFORMATION IF IT RELATES TO WEST CHANDLER, UM, OR SOUTHEAST CHANDLER OR A VERY SPECIFIC LOCATION, OR A VERY SPECIFIC REQUEST, AND START TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS WITH ALL OF THE OTHER TECHNICAL INFORMATION THAT WE STILL HAVE TO COMPLETE, WHICH IS COMPLETING THE INVENTORY AND ASSESSMENT WORK.

SO HOW DOES, HOW DOES THE COMMUNITY'S ENGAGEMENT AND THEIR NEEDS AND THEIR RESPONSES, BOTH QUALITATIVE AND QUANTITATIVE, HOW DOES IT IMPACT A, AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN FOR YOUR EXISTING SYSTEM? NUMBER ONE, BUT THEN NUMBER TWO, GIVEN THE FACT THAT YOUR COMMUNITY IS GOING TO GROW, THEN HOW DOES,

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HOW DOES THAT SYSTEM NEED TO GROW SPECIFICALLY? UM, AND I CERTAINLY WILL, WE'LL TOUCH ON THAT AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW ALL THIS WORKS.

SO MAYOR RUN FOLLOW UP.

SO WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS POTENTIALLY SOME OF THESE NUMBERS MAY CHANGE.

UM, THE NUMBERS FOR THE STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY WILL NOT CHANGE BECAUSE WE ARE ONLY ISSUING THAT ONCE.

HOWEVER, THE PRIORITIZATION THAT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU, UM, MAY CHANGE, UM, TOWARDS THE MIDDLE PART OR END OF THE PROJECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

PLEASE CONTINUE.

SO ADVOCACY, UM, VERY QUICKLY.

HI, HOW IMPORTANT ARE HIGH QUALITY PARKS AND TRAILS TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE? UM, WE ASKED FOLKS FROM VERY IMPORTANT ALL THE WAY TO NOT ALL, ALL THAT IMPORTANT, UM, 61%, VERY IMPORTANT, 34% IMPORTANCE.

SO 95% OF YOUR COMMUNITY RESPONDED THAT IT'S, UH, EITHER VERY IMPORTANT OR IMPORTANT TO THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE IN TERMS OF LEVEL OF SATISFACTION WITH THE OVERALL VALUE THAT THEY RECEIVE FROM THE SYSTEM.

UM, 24%, VERY SATISFIED, 57% SATISFIED.

SO THAT'S 81% OF YOUR COMMUNITY ARE VERY, UH, VERY SATISFIED OR SATISFIED WITH THE SYSTEM AS IT IS TODAY.

UH, THE NATIONAL BENCHMARK, UM, THROUGH ALL OF THE SURVEYS THAT ETC INSTITUTE DOES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, UH, IS 24%.

SO YOU'RE RIGHT ON THE MARK WITH REGARDS TO THE NATIONAL BENCHMARK FOR VERY SATISFIED PARK AND FACILITY VISITATION AND CONDITION IS THE NEXT SET OF INFORMATION.

UM, WE ASKED FOLKS WHETHER OR NOT THEY USE YOUR PARK SYSTEM AND 88% OF FOLKS HAVE VISITED YOUR PARK SYSTEM IN THE LAST, UM, YEAR, UH, TRAILS, UH, WAS 49%.

AND THEN MULTIPURPOSE FIELDS AND DIAMOND FIELDS ARE FAR LESS THAN THAT 19 AND 14%, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARILY REFLECTIVE OF YOUR COMMUNITY.

DOESN'T LIKE SPORTS.

IT'S JUST SIMPLY THE FACT THAT THERE'S A SPECIFIC SKILL AND A VERY SPECIFIC AGE GROUP THAT USES YOUR ATHLETIC FIELD.

SO, UM, I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT, UM, THOSE NUMBERS WOULD BE, UH, ANDY, IT SHOULD BE EXPECTED TO BE LOWER THAN GENERAL PARKS AND TRAILS AS A WHOLE, AS FAR AS RATING THE QUALITY OF YOUR FACILITIES.

UM, EXCELLENT.

UH, GOOD FAIR, POOR, UM, 31% AND 32% FOR A GENERAL PARKS AND TRAILS, AND THEN A LITTLE BIT LOWER, UM, WITH REGARDS TO MULTIPURPOSE FIELDS AND DIAMOND FIELDS.

BUT AGAIN, WHEN YOU START ADDING IN THOSE THAT GOOD COLUMN AS WELL, IT'S NOT AS, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SYSTEM THAT'S NOT IN GOOD SHAPE.

I MEAN, THE LOWEST NUMBER, THERE IS A COMBINATION OF EXCELLENT AND GOOD IS 69%.

SO ALMOST SEVEN OUT OF EVERY 10 PEOPLE RATE YOUR DIAMOND FIELDS, UM, BEING, UH, EITHER AN EXCELLENT OR GOOD CONDITION.

THE NATIONAL BENCHMARK FOR EXCELLENT AGAIN IS 29%.

SO YOU DO EXCEED THAT FOR GENERAL PARKS AND TRAILS.

UM, BUT YOU ARE A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN THAT FOR MULTIPURPOSE FIELDS AND DIAMOND FIELDS.

REAL QUICK QUESTION.

THANK YOU.

SO YOU HAVE A CAVEAT IN HERE SAYS DOESN'T COUNT THAT DON'T KNOWS.

I'M SORRY.

YOU HAVE A CAVEAT ON HERE.

DON'T THESE, THESE, THIS NUMBER DOESN'T COUNT, THE DON'T KNOWS OR RESPOND TO, I DON'T KNOW, CORRECT.

THERE WERE NOT VERY MANY DON'T KNOWS.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT BASED ON THE, UM, UH, THE FOLKS THAT HEAR IT, IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR EVERYTHING.

UH, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, UM, GIVEN THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE THIS KIND OF USAGE ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR GENERAL PARKS AND TRAILS, UM, MULTIPURPOSE FIELDS AND, UH, DIAMOND ATHLETIC FIELDS ARE A LITTLE BIT LESS.

SO IF YOU'RE NOT USING, THEN YOU CAN'T RATE THE CONDITION.

SO THE GENERAL PARKS IS RATED BASED ON THE 88% OF FOLKS THAT HAVE USED IT WITHIN THE LAST YEAR.

THE TRAILS IS BASED ON THE 49% OF FOLKS THAT HAVE USED IT IN THE LAST YEAR.

AND THEN THE SAME THING FOR DIAMOND AND ATHLETIC, AS FAR AS THE OVERALL SATISFACTION OF THE PHYSICAL CONDITION.

I'M VERY SATISFIED WAS THAT 22 SATISFIED WAS THAT 58.

SO THAT IS 80% OF YOUR COMMUNITY IS, UM, IS PRETTY HAPPY WITH THE PHYSICAL CONDITION.

IN OTHER WORDS, HOW THINGS ARE CONTINUING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF AND, UH, HOW YOU'RE REINVESTING IN THE SYSTEM IN TERMS OF AWARENESS AND MARKETING.

AND I THINK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE, UM, THERE IS A LOT OF WAYS IN WHICH PEOPLE CAN NOW LEARN ABOUT PARK

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SYSTEMS, UM, THAN THEY DID PREVIOUSLY.

UM, BUT IN TERMS OF, UM, HOW, UH, WHY THEY HAVE NOT VISITED PARKS, UM, ONLY 13% OF FOLKS INDICATED THAT THEY WERE NOT AWARE OF PARKS, TRAILS OR LOCATIONS.

ANOTHER WAY TO SAY THAT IS SIMPLY THE FACT THAT THEY EITHER CHOOSE TO USE THEM, OR THEY CHOOSE NOT TO USE THEM.

NOT EVERYBODY IS INTERESTED IN USING PARKS, NOT EVERYBODY IS INTERESTED IN USING TRAILS, BUT THE FACT THAT 87% OF YOUR COMMUNITY IS AWARE OF YOUR PARK AND TRAIL SYSTEM MEANS THAT YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB IN TERMS OF CREATING AWARENESS.

UM, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE DO NOT FEEL SAFE, UH, WHICH IS ABOUT HALFWAY DOWN.

THE PAGE IS ONLY 3%.

THE NATIONAL BENCHMARK FOR DO NOT FEEL SAFE IS REALLY CLOSER TO 13 OR 14%.

SO, UM, THAT IS A REALLY GOOD INDICATION AND STATEMENT ON THE SAFETY OF YOUR COMMUNITY AND THE WORK THAT NOT ONLY PARKS PUTS IN.

UM, BUT ALSO YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY DOES AS WELL IN TERMS OF HOW PEOPLE LEARN ABOUT PARKS AND TRAILS.

THE NUMBER ONE WAY, UM, IS FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS.

NOW, IF WE WERE TALKING RECREATION PROGRAMS, I WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE CONCERNED BECAUSE RECREATION PROGRAMS COME AND GO AND THEY CHANGE.

AND MANY TIMES PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCES ABOUT A RECREATION PROGRAM AFTER IT HAS HAPPENED.

WHEREAS A PARK AND TRAIL SYSTEM IS FIXED.

IN OTHER WORDS, YOU CAN CHOOSE TO GO AND LOOK, SEE THAT, UM, OR PARTICIPATE IN IT OR VISIT OR USE IT ANYTIME YOU WANT.

THE ONLY THING THAT, UM, THE FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS, UH, WOULD GIVE YOU A LITTLE CAUSE FOR A LITTLE CAUSE FOR PAUSE FOR IS SIMPLY THE FACT THAT A FRIEND AND OR NEIGHBOR MAY ONLY BE TELLING YOU ABOUT A VERY SPECIFIC PARK OR A VERY SPECIFIC EXPERIENCE IN A VERY SPECIFIC PARK.

AND SO THEY DON'T NECESSARILY COMMUNICATE EVERYTHING ABOUT YOUR PARK SYSTEM.

UM, BUT THE SECOND HIGHEST WAY OF PEOPLE LEARNING IS THE CITY WEBSITE AND THEN THE ACTIVITY GUIDE.

BUT WE ALSO WANTED TO ASK PEOPLE NOT JUST HOW THEY LEARN, BUT WHAT THEIR PREFERENCES.

SO THE FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS DROPS ALMOST ALL THE WAY DOWN TO TWO THIRDS, UM, DOWN THE LIST.

UM, AND, UH, INSTEAD OF IT BEING, THEY LEARNING ABOUT IT, 60%, 60% THROUGH FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS, THEY ACTUALLY ONLY PREFER TO LEARN ABOUT IT FROM FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS AT 14%.

THE KEY HERE IS THAT THE TOP FOUR ARE ALL OF THE, WITHIN YOUR CONTROL.

YOU CONTROL THE MESSAGING ON THE CITY WEBSITE, YOU CONTROL THE MESSAGING ASSOCIATED WITH EMAILS, THE ACTIVITY GUIDE AND YOUR FACEBOOK ACCOUNT.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT YOU HAVE COMPLETE CONTROL, UH, OF HOW YOU WANT TO INFORM YOUR COMMUNITY.

BUT THE OTHER THING THAT THIS DOES IS IT GIVES YOU AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE YOU SPEND MARKETING RESOURCES AND DOLLARS WHEN IT COMES TO LETTING PEOPLE KNOW AND CREATING AWARENESS ABOUT YOUR PARK AND TRAIL SYSTEM.

SO PROGRAM AND SERVICE NEEDS, AND THIS IS REALLY ABOUT THE EXPERIENCES THAT FOLKS WANT OUT OF THEIR PARK AND TRAIL SYSTEM.

THERE IS A, UH, IN TERMS OF IMPORTANCE.

SO WHAT PEOPLE FEEL IS IMPORTANT, THERE'S A CLEAR CUT.

TOP THREE, WALKING, JOGGING, BIKING, HIKING WAS NUMBER ONE CLOSELY FOLLOWED BY JUST GENERALLY VISITING AND USING PARKS.

AND THEN THIRD IS SOMEHOW SOME WAY GETTING FITNESS AND WELLNESS OUT OF YOUR PARK AND TRAIL SYSTEM, WHETHER THAT BE INFORMALLY OR FORMALLY.

AND IT DROPS WAY OFF TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SWIMMING, SOCIALIZING WITH DOGS OR DOG PARKS, FISHING AND NATURE PROGRAMS, KIND OF MAKEUP THAT I, I WOULD LOVE TO SAY IT'S A SECOND TIER, BUT IT'S WAY OFF A SECOND TIER.

SO YOU HAVE A VERY CLEAR CUT TOP THREE IN TERMS OF IMPORTANCE, BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS IMPORTANT AND NEEDED, THAT WE NEED TO CREATE A SYSTEM THAT MEETS UNMET NEEDS.

SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHERE FOLKS HAVE A NEED FOR PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT ARE BEING MET AT 50% OR LESS, UM, FITNESS AND WELLNESS, OUTDOOR ADVENTURE PROGRAMS, NATURE PROGRAMS, WALKING, JOGGING, HIKING, BIKING.

SO TWO OF YOUR TOP FOUR THAT ARE MOST IMPORTANT ARE ALSO TWO OF THE, UM, PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT FOLKS HAVE AN UNMET NEED FOR.

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UM, AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT YOUR COMMUNITY WANTS TO GET OUT.

YES.

SO JUST THE QUESTION ON THIS, UM, ESTIMATED NUMBERS, IS THIS BASED UPON JUST THE GEOGRAPHY, ARE THERE THE RESPONSES AND THEN EXTRAPOLATING FROM, OR HOW DO WE COME TO THAT? CORRECT? IT IS IT'S BASED ON, UM, EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

YEAH.

THAT'S A MEMBER OF LANDO.

THANK YOU, SIR.

SO LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THIS CHART HERE, AND I GUESS I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, UM, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING HERE, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT, UH, SOFTBALL OR BASEBALL AND I TAKE THAT AS A DIAMOND SPORT, CORRECT.

VERSUS TENNIS, WHICH IS A COURT, WHICH IS A, YOU KNOW, A COURT FOR, UM, SAND VOLLEYBALL, THERE'S, THERE'S THERE'S AMENITIES THAT HANDLE A SPORT CORRECTLY.

SO WHEN I PUT THESE NUMBERS TOGETHER, LIKE YOUTH SOCCER AND ADULT SOCCER, UH, I COME UP WITH OVER 10,000 CLOSE TO 11,000 HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE LOOKING AT THAT, WHETHER IT'S AN ADULT OR A YOUTH ARE LOOKING FOR SOCCER FIELDS.

AND I LOOKED AT BASEBALL, SOFTBALL, BOTH YOUTH AND ADULT, I'M LOOKING AT OVERALL CLOSE TO 15,000, WHICH MAKES BOTH OF THOSE JUMP UP INTO THE TOP 10.

SO HOW DO WE ADJUDICATE FOR THAT? I MEAN, WE SPLIT THAT UP.

WE DIDN'T SPLIT UP BASKETBALL OR TENNIS BALL OR PICK A BALL, SOME OF THESE OTHER SPORTS.

SO WHEN I LOOK AT PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE, I'M LOOKING AT DIAMONDS NEEDED WHETHER IT'S ADULTS OR YOUTH, AND THEY'RE MULTIPLE BOTH TO PLAY ON THOSE FIELDS AT DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE DAY.

CORRECT.

SO HOW DOES THAT EQUATE TO THE PICTURE WHERE I HAVE A SAID TOP 10 TO THOSE SPORTS IN CHANDLER AND THEY'RE GROWING SPORTS BY THE WAY.

SO HOW DO WE ADJUDICATE THAT? SO THE CITY MANAGER SAID IT BEST IN, IN HER PREAMBLE, UM, THAT THIS IS ONE DATA POINT.

UM, AND IT DOES IT COMMUNITY NEED DOES NOT TRUMP ALL.

UM, AND I THINK THE BEST WAY TO EXPLAIN THIS IS THAT WE HAVE TO NOT JUST RECOGNIZE WHAT YOU HAVE IN TERMS OF NEED OR UNMET NEED IN YOUR COMMUNITY, BUT WE HAVE TO USE OTHER FACTORS SUCH AS FACILITY LOCATION.

UM, A NUMBER OF FACILITIES.

WHAT WE TALK ABOUT IS LEVEL OF SERVICE.

AND, AND SO RECOGNIZING EVEN IF YOU FEEL AS IF RIGHT NOW THAT YOU HAVE YOUR MEETING NEEDS, YOUR COMMUNITY IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW IN THESE SPORTS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW.

AND SO IT'S ABOUT TAKING THIS INFORMATION AND INTERFACING IT WITH A LOT MORE TECHNICAL DATA THAT WE ARE GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU LATER ON EITHER THIS YEAR OR EARLY NEXT YEAR, UM, THAT TALKS ABOUT LEVEL OF SERVICE.

HOW MANY FIELDS DO YOU NEED FOR EVERY 5,000 PEOPLE IN YOUR COMMUNITY? UM, WHERE ARE THOSE FIELDS LOCATED? UM, SO THAT THERE'S EQUITABLE ACCESS TO THEM THROUGHOUT YOUR COMMUNITY.

SO THAT FOLKS DON'T HAVE TO FEEL AS IF THEY NEED TO DRIVE FROM THE VERY, YOU KNOW, WESTERN EDGE OF CHANDLER TO GET TO, UM, FIELDS IN, YOU KNOW, NORTH CHAMPER FORESTS.

YEAH.

I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE DRIVING AT, BUT MY, MY, MY MAIN POINT HERE IS IT'S A LITTLE BIT, UM, IF I'M GOING TO BASE THIS ON DATA, IT'S A LITTLE, WE HAVE TO TWEAK IT A LITTLE BIT HERE, BECAUSE AGAIN, THESE, BOTH OF THESE DROP INTO THE TOP 10, SIX, AND SEVENTH RESPECTIVELY, IF I'M LOOKING AT WHAT THE CHANDLER RESIDENTS WANT.

SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I STILL DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE GIVING THEM THE CREDIT DUE OF THE FACT THAT WE NEED THERE'S NEEDS FOR DIAMOND FACILITIES OUT THERE.

NOW, WHETHER THERE'S A NEED OR MAINTAINING, OR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE WAY THEY ARE.

THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.

IT'S STILL, I'M GOING TO BASE IT ON DATA.

I HAVE TO BE TRUE TO MYSELF AND SAY, THERE'S A LOT OF NUMBERS OUT HERE THAT ARE JUST NOT BEING CORRELATED TO THIS TOP TWO, TOP 10.

AND I GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS CHART WHERE YOU LOOK AT MOST IMPORTANT THAT A HOUSEHOLD.

AGAIN, IF I ADD THOSE TWO UP, THEY BOTH, BOTH OF THOSE NINE AND 10, GO BACK INTO THE TOP 10 ABOVE BASKETBALL AND SPECIAL EVENTS.

SO AGAIN, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO I TAKE THOSE? YOU KNOW, YOU DIVIDED THOSE UP, WHICH I GET THAT BECAUSE THERE SPECIFIC SPORTS, BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, WE STILL HAVE TO TAKE THEM AS A SPORT OF MEETING FACILITIES WHERE THERE'S ENOUGH, THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BASE OUR DATA ON THIS.

I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE NOT BASING ON TRULY WHAT WE NEED, WHAT IS ASKING BY THE RESIDENTS.

SO I, I THINK THE ONE POINT OF CLARITY THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IS THAT AN ADULT SOFTBALL FIELD IS DIFFERENT THAN A YOUTH BASEBALL FIELD IN TERMS

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OF SIZE, UM, IN TERMS OF OUTFIELD FENCES.

UM, AND SO WHEN I SPEAK ABOUT DOING LEVEL OF SERVICE, WE'RE NOT JUST GOING TO DO IT BASED ON A DIAMOND FIELD BLANKET.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT JUST BASED ON A RECTANGULAR FIELD BLANKET.

WE'RE GOING TO BASE IT ON THE TYPE OF FIELD THAT IS NECESSARY TO, TO CARRY THAT VERY SPECIFIC ACTIVITY AND OR SPORT.

AND SO, AGAIN, IT'S NOT TO SAY WE FULLY, I THINK THE ONE THING THAT NEEDS TO BE STATED IS THAT WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE FITNESS AND WELLNESS PROGRAMS, AND YOU START TALKING ABOUT WALKING, JOGGING, HIKING, BIKING, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND TYPICALLY ACCESSIBLE TO THE COMMUNITY.

AS A WHOLE.

WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT VERY SPECIFIC SPORTS, IT BECOMES ABOUT A VERY SPECIFIC AGE IN A VERY SPECIFIC SKILLSET.

AND SO IT'S EXPECTED THAT SPORT FIELDS IN A COMPLETE, IN A CITY WIDE PARKS SYSTEM WOULD BE AT A LOWER RATING THAN SAY A TRAIL SYSTEM, BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS AND POTENTIALLY CAN USE A TRAIL SYSTEM WHERE A LOT OF FOLKS, QUITE HONESTLY, 90% OF YOUR COMMUNITY IS NOT INTERESTED IN PLAYING ON A BASEBALL FIELD OR A SOCCER FIELD.

BUT THOSE FOLKS, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT 10% OF YOUR COMMUNITY AND DOING SO, AND YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR POPULATION, WE'RE TALKING 25, 28,000 PEOPLE.

AND SO WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

AGAIN, THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE THE END ALL BE ALL.

IT'S JUST PRESENTING INFORMATION THAT IN TURN HELPS US LATER ON TO RECOGNIZE WHERE YOU'RE AT IN TERMS OF LEVEL OF SERVICE AND WHERE YOUR SYSTEM NEEDS TO GO IN THE FUTURE.

SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I GET IT.

TRUST ME.

I'M NOT TRYING TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE, BUT MY POINT TO YOU THOUGH, IS WE COULD BE VERY SUCCESSFUL AS CREATING ADULT BASEBALL, SOFTBALL FIELDS AND WOULD OFFEND SUPPORTABLE THINGS, TURN THOSE INTO YOUTH SOFTBALL FIELDS.

AND WE'VE HAD YOUTH FIELDS FOR, FOR THE LONGEST TIME I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 1977, THAT WE'VE HAD YOUTH STILL USE ADULT FIELDS.

SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO DISCUSSION ABOUT, ARE WE GOING TO MAKE UP A LITTLE LEAGUE FIELD OR A BASEBALL FIELD OR 15 OF THESE $12? MY POINT IS WE COULD BE.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT A SOCCER THAT EASILY COULD BE A MULTI-USE FIELD FOR FOOTBALL LIKE FOOTBALL.

SO AGAIN, I JUST, I DON'T WANT TO SEND A MESSAGE HERE THAT WE'RE NOT THAT BASEBALL OR SOFTBALL OR SOCCER OR FLAG FOOTBALL OR WHATEVER LACROSSE ARE NOT IMPORTANT.

THEY ARE IMPORTANT.

THEY'RE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO HAVE GREAT COMMUNITY.

I GET THESE CALLS EVERY DAY ABOUT THE LACK OF FACILITIES IN THAT AREA.

SO AGAIN, I'LL LET YOU MOVE ON HERE, BUT I JUST WANT TO BE AWARE THAT THE DATA HERE TO ME, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, THIS, TAKE IT PIECE BY PIECE.

IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU A BIT, YOU NEED TO PIECE IT ALL TOGETHER, GET A BIGGER PICTURE IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SUGGEST.

ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

WE ARE ON 100%, SAME PAGE.

AND I WOULD ADD TO THAT, THAT, UM, I, I AGREE SOMEWHAT WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO WHEN THIS IS GOOD INFORMATION TO BREAK IT UP.

BUT WHEN IT ACTUALLY THEN COMES TO PLANNING FACILITIES, THAT'S WHERE THAT THE AGGREGATE LOOK OF THE, THE SIX SPORTS LISTED HERE, SO THAT CAN USE A MULTIPURPOSE FIELD.

THEN, THEN I WOULD AGGREGATE THEM AND SAY, AS WE PLAN THESE AS, BUT I, I, SO I UNDERSTAND, I THINK THEY'RE BOTH VALUABLE POINTS, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BECOME IN THE LATER DATA THAT YOU MENTIONED AT A FUTURE TIME.

SO I'M GLAD THEY'RE BROKEN UP.

BUT I ALSO, IN MY MIND, I WAS ALSO ADDING THESE UP TO SAY, WELL, YEAH, I COULD SEE DIAMOND FIELDS OR MULTI-USE FIELDS, AND THEN HAVING A GREATER PERCENTAGE.

AND THAT'S JUST SOMETHING FOR US TO KEEP IN MIND WHEN MORE DATA COMES TO US AND WE'RE, WE'RE ACTUALLY DIGESTING THE ENTIRE REPORT.

SO I AGREE.

I AGREE.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, PLEASE CONTINUE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M NOT SEEING ANY FROM MY SON.

OKAY.

OH, COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART.

I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER WAY.

OR LOOK AT THIS.

WHEN I LOOK AT THE 17 DIFFERENT SPORTS THAT ARE ON THAT PARTICULAR SLIDE, WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT WHEN YOU BREAK OUT ALL THE DIFFERENT SPORTS.

YEAH.

UH, IF, IF MY FAMILY OR MY NEIGHBOR'S FAMILY DOESN'T PLAY LACROSSE, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A NEED FOR THE CROSS, BUT WHEN YOU ADD IT TO LACROSSE, TO SOCCER, TO FOOTBALL, THOSE ARE MULTI-PURPOSE FIELDS AND YOU COULD KIND OF COMBINE ALL THOSE.

SO MAYBE THAT'S A METHODOLOGY WE CAN LOOK AT ON ANOTHER OPEN, ANOTHER MEETING LATER TODAY WHERE WE CAN KIND OF COMBINE THESE SO WE CAN LOOK AT OKAY, WHAT CAN BE PLAYED ON THOSE SPORTS? SO WE

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CAN THEN LOOK AT THE AGGREGATE OF THAT DATA SO WE CAN MAKE A BETTER DECISION BECAUSE I THINK, AND WE CAN DO IT MANUALLY RIGHT HERE ON MY KNEE.

BUT, UM, I THINK THE BIGGER QUESTION I HAD HERE IS THE ESTIMATED NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLD WHOSE NEEDS FOR PROGRAMS ARE MET 50% OR LESS.

CAN YOU GO INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE? BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT FITNESS AND WELLNESS, I JUST THINK, OKAY, WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING, IF YOU COULD RIDE A BIKE, YOU COULD, UH, W YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PLAY WHATEVER, AND YOU'RE DOING FITNESS AND WELLNESS.

IS THIS THING SAYING THAT 75% OF CHANDLER RESIDENTS ARE COMFORTABLE WITH OUR FITNESS AND WELLNESS BASED ON THAT TOP LINE.

AND THEN WHEN YOU GO DOWN, SOME OF THESE, LIKE SAY PICKLEBALL THAT WERE UNDER UTILIZED WERE UNDERSERVED.

WELL, I, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY SAFE TO SAY, UM, ANECDOTALLY CONCRETE THAT WE'RE NOT THERE YET IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO RESPOND TO THAT, TO THAT VERY SPECIFIC QUESTION.

THIS IS JUST AS, AS THE CITY MANAGER SAID A SPECIFIC PIECE OF DATA THAT WILL HELP US INFORM OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COME OUT OF HAVING TO DO A FACILITY, INVENTORY AND ASSESSMENT, UM, EQUITY MAPPING, TO UNDERSTAND HOW WELL YOUR CITY IS COVERED AND SERVED.

I THINK WE FULLY RECOGNIZE WITHOUT EVEN DOING MAPPING THAT AIR LIKELY LACKING ATHLETIC FIELDS IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF YOUR COMMUNITY, FOR EXAMPLE.

AND SO IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC INFORMATION, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER DATA YET TO BE HAD, UM, THAT WILL HELP TO INFORM THE STRATEGIC, THE STRATEGIC NESS OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COME FROM I'M WITH YOU.

AND YOU, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT, AND I LOVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LIKE THESE, THIS, THIS IS JUST A DATA POINT.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE DATA POINT IS.

I'M LOOKING AT THE BAR GRAPH, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE, SO LIKE ON FITNESS AND WELLNESS, THIS MEANS THAT PEOPLE ARE PRETTY HAPPY WITH OUR FITNESS AND WELLNESS.

YES.

OKAY.

BASED ON 700 RESPONDENTS, LIKE, WAS IT 800 RESPONDENTS WHEN YOU ADD IN PEOPLE THAT SORT OF WENT THROUGH THE SURVEY ONLINE AND THEN THE PEOPLE THAT YOU CALLED OR EMAILED DIRECTLY FROM THE DATABASE FROM OUR ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT? CORRECT.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

LAST MARRIAGE.

I WANT TO MAKE IT MAYBE A CORRECTNESS.

THEY WOULD JUST MAKE YOU UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE THIS, THE QUESTION WAS ON WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO THEM.

NOT NECESSARILY IF THEY'RE SATISFIED WITH IT, RIGHT.

THAT THEY'RE SETTING THEIR PRIORITY AGAIN, OUT OF THE RESPONDENTS, THE TOP THREE HERE, AND A MAJORITY OF THEM AS FIRST, SECOND, THIRD CHOICE SAID, THESE ARE, THESE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT TO THEM.

NOT NECESSARILY THEY'RE SATISFIED OR NOT WHETHER WE HAVE ENOUGH OR NOT, BUT THIS IS THE IMPORTANCE LEVEL, CORRECT? WELL, THIS IS THE, WHERE THEY HAVE UNMET NEEDS.

THE IMPORTANCE LEVEL IS HERE.

AM I ON THE WRONG SIDE? WHICH LATER YOU WANT THE IMPORTANCE LEVEL WAS THE SLIDE BEFORE THAT? OH, I'M ON THE WRONG SIDE.

SORRY.

YEAH, I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE NEXT SLIDE.

UM, VICE MAYOR.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO NOW I'M ON THE RIGHT TO LIKE CONTINUE, SORRY.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT WHEN WE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS INFORMATION, THE INFORMATION THAT THE, THE DATA THAT WE'RE GETTING BACK, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE THINGS THAT TYPICALLY RISE TO THE TOP ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, REGARDLESS OF, UM, REGARDLESS OF SKILLSET AND REGARDLESS OF AGE.

SO I THINK THAT IS WHY WE HAVE TO DO THAT AND THAT FURTHER DIGGING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THINGS ARE AT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT ATHLETIC FIELDS OR THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE SAME KIND OF INFORMATION WHEN WE, WHEN I GO THROUGH THE PARK AND FACILITY, UM, AMENITY THE NEEDS.

AND SO THIS IS THE FACILITY.

SO THIS IS THE ACTUAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT PEOPLE WANT IN YOUR SYSTEM.

UM, PAVED AND WALKING, BIKING TRAILS WAS NUMBER ONE, COVERED PICNIC AREAS.

RAMADA IS, WAS NUMBER TWO.

AND THEN YOU, YOU HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH THERE THAT ARE KIND OF BUNCHED UP IN YOUR TOP SIX, UM, SOFT SURFACE TRAILS, UM, OPEN SPACE, CONSERVATION AREA TRAILS, LARGE COMMUNITY PARKS, SMALL COMMUNITY PARKS.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THOUGH, TO, UM, TO, TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK OFF OF COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO'S COMMENTS.

IF YOU WERE TO COMBINE ALL THOSE TRAILS, YOU START TO RECOGNIZE THAT TRAILS IS EXCEPTIONALLY IMPORTANT TO YOUR COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT BE PAVED, WHETHER IT BE SOFT SURFACE, WHETHER IT BE TRAILS IN AN OPEN SPACE CONSERVATION AREA.

SO, UM, AGAIN, THIS IS NOT SURPRISING BECAUSE TRAILS ACROSS THE ENTIRE COUNTRY IS ALWAYS THE MOST

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IMPORTANT THING, BUT IT'S BECAUSE OF YOU THINK ABOUT FOLKS CAN GO OUT AND WALK.

THEY CAN TEACH THEIR KID TO RIDE A BIKE, THEY CAN PUSH A STROLLER, UM, THEY CAN RUN, UM, THEY CAN HIKE.

AND SO, UM, THE, THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK I WANTED TO ADD IS THAT THE NUMBER ONE ACTIVITY IN THIS COUNTRY BY FAR OFF THE CHART IS WALKING FOR EXERCISE, ALMOST ONE OUT OF EVERY THREE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY, WALK FOR EXERCISE, EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T GET THE FANFARE THAT ALL THE SPORTS DOES.

UH, IT IS ALSO THEN WHY TRAILS IS ALWAYS SO IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF UNMET NEEDS.

INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, COMMUNITY GARDENS JUMPS TO THE TOP.

UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR TRAILS AND ADVENTURE AREA.

SOMETHING LIKE ROPES COURSES, ZIP LINES, CERTAINLY NOT SOMETHING THAT TYPICALLY A CITY DIRECTLY PROVIDES.

UM, BUT IT DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO PARTNER WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO DO THAT.

UM, AND THEN TRAILS AND TRAILS AND SPLASH PADS.

SO AGAIN, THE THINGS THAT ARE MOST AVAILABLE AND WHAT THE GENERAL COMMUNITY WANTS, OR WHAT TYPICALLY RISES TO THE TOP.

AND THEN WHEN YOU START BREAKING THINGS DOWN BY SPECIFIC SKILL SET AND SPECIFIC AGE, YOU START TO GET, UM, LOWER RESPONSES.

IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT WE'RE IN A POSITION AT THIS POINT OF SAYING YOU DON'T NEED ANY MORE ATHLETIC FIELDS.

THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

UH, I'M A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED ABOUT QUESTION 12, PAUL GRAHAM, MOST IMPORTANT TO HOUSEHOLD ABOUT THE LAW PERCENTAGE OF USE OF BART, UH, TO MY PUSTULES SPIRITS.

YEAH.

IT LOOKS LIKE A SOPHOMORE VERY POPULAR TO ENGENDER.

UM, I THINK IT'S JUST SOFTBALL ACTUALLY, UM, HAS STARTED TO BE ON A DECLINE.

AND IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, UM, SOFTBALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY AS KIND OF BEEN IN A STATE OF DECLINE OVER THE LAST DECADE OR SO, UM, IT HAS EBBED AND FLOWED.

THERE ARE CERTAIN PARTS OF THIS COUNTRY IN WHICH IT'S BEEN EXCEPTIONALLY POPULAR AND REMAINS EXCEPTIONALLY POPULAR.

UM, I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY OWN VERY SPECIFIC INTERESTS, WHEN I WAS A PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR IN VIRGINIA, WE HAD OVER 150 ADULT SOFTBALL TEAMS IN THE EARLY TO MID TWO THOUSANDS.

I ASKED THEM TODAY, HOW MANY SOFTBALL TEAMS THEY HAVE? THEY'RE LUCKY TO HAVE 50 EVERY SEASON.

IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT HAS EBBED AND FLOWED.

IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT YOUR DEMAND FOR SOFTBALL, ADULT SOFTBALL IN YOUR COMMUNITY TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER, ORLANDO'S POINT IS DO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THAT FIELD FOR EXAMPLE, AND CONVERT IT OR RENOVATED IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT ALMOST BECOMES A MULTIPURPOSE AT DIAMOND ATHLETIC FIELD? IN MANY CASES, WE HAVE LONG BEEN JUST BUILDING DIAMOND ATHLETIC FIELDS THAT ARE VERY SPECIFIC TO AGE AND OR USE, BUT WITH THE PORTABLE FENCING, UM, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A MULTIPURPOSE USE OUT OF IT, SIMILARLY TO WHAT WE DO WITH RECTANGULAR FIELDS.

SO YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT.

UM, AND I UNDERSTAND PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY.

I GREW UP BACK EAST, AND I REMEMBER THE DAYS WE HAD MEN'S SOFTBALL, FAST PITCH SOFTBALL.

THEY DON'T HAVE IT ANYMORE.

JUST NOT THERE MANY CORPORATIONS SPONSORED MEN'S TEAMS AND WOMEN'S TEAMS. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE ARIZONA, CALIFORNIA, NEVADA, NEW MEXICO MARKET, SO WELL, HUGE.

IN FACT, IN THIS CITY ALONE, YOU PROBABLY HAVE FOUR OF THE TOP 10 TO 12 SOFTBALL HIGH SCHOOLS, OKAY.

IN THE STATE, YOU'VE HAD ONE HIGH SCHOOL HERE, THAT'S WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP, LIKE THE LAST FOUR OUT OF FIVE YEARS, YOU HAVE ONE OF THE PINNACLE, THE WEST SIDE.

SO HOW DO WE, I GUESS MY QUESTION TO YOU IS I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING NATIONWIDE.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT THERE ARE UNIQUE SITUATIONS.

IN FACT, SO ARIZONA WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL SOFTBALL ENTITIES IN THE UNITED STATES.

THERE WAS CHAMPIONSHIP TEAMS AT ARIZONA, THE 19 HUNDREDS.

SO I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT CLUBS, CLUB, SOFTBALL CLUB SOCCER ARE HUGE OUT HERE.

UH, EVERY WEEKEND WE COULD PROBABLY PUT A TOURNAMENT EVERY WEEKEND.

ROSEMONT OFFERED SOME, THE OTHER FACILITIES IN THIS TOWN, BASEBALL HUGE.

SO I CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, SOME PARTS OF THE NATION, BUT AGAIN, THERE HAS TO BE SOME WEIGHTED MEASURE ON THIS TO TAKE AN ACCOUNT THAT THOSE ACTIVITIES ARE VERY POPULAR IN THIS AREA.

THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT TO A VERY SPECIFIC

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PART OF THE POPULATION.

ABSOLUTELY.

UM, AND I THINK THE ONE THING THAT WE WILL HAVE START TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON VERY SPECIFICALLY AROUND ATHLETIC FIELDS IN THE FUTURE IS, ARE WE PROVIDING ATHLETIC FIELDS FOR THE PURPOSES OF MEETING LOCAL NEED, OR WE POTENTIALLY IN THE BUSINESS OF TRYING TO PROVIDE ATHLETIC FIELDS THAT DRAW SPORTS TOURISM, FOR EXAMPLE, CLUBS, SOCCER, UM, HAS A TENDENCY TO BE VERY PAROCHIAL.

UM, THEY HAVE A TENDENCY TO PLAY IN A VERY SMALL GEOGRAPHIC AREA.

YES, THEY'LL TRAVEL TO CALIFORNIA FOR THAT WEEKEND TOURNAMENT OCCASIONALLY, BUT MOST OF THEIR GAMES HAPPEN A LITTLE BIT MORE LOCALLY GIRLS, FAST PITCH SOFTBALL, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT NEARLY THE NUMBER OF GIRLS, FAST PITCH SOFTBALL PLAYERS, AS THERE ARE SAY, CLUB, YOU'LL USE SOCCER, HAVE A TENDENCY TO HAVE TO TRAVEL A LOT MORE JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE DEMAND AT SUCH A HYPER LOCAL LEVEL, UM, THAT YOU DO FOR SUCH THINGS AS SOCCER.

UM, SO I DO THINK THAT IT WILL BE A VERY WORTHWHILE CONVERSATION TO HAVE.

UM, I ALSO THINK THAT WE HAVE TO INFORM OUR RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON OTHER THINGS THAT MAY BE OCCURRING IN THE CITY OF MESA, UM, THROUGH THE PRIVATE SECTOR AS WELL.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, OUR, I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO FULLY TAKE INTO ACCOUNT IS THAT ANYTHING YOU BUILD NOT JUST COMES WITH THE COST TO BUILD IT, BUT IT COMES WITH A COST TO MAINTAIN IT.

AND IT ALSO COMES WITH A COST TO LIFECYCLE REPLACE IT BECAUSE NOTHING THAT YOU BUILD LASTS FOREVER.

SO WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS CREATE FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY FOR YOU AS WELL, COUNCIL MEMBER WALL.

OH, SO YOU WILL SURVEY ALSO THAT STATISTICS WAS BASICALLY DONE BETWEEN MARCH TO JUNE, RIGHT? IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

MY HYPOTHESIS IS I THINK COVID-19 CHANGE A LOT OF THINGS.

YES.

AND PROBABLY AFFECT US DEBATE, UH, TO MY KNOWLEDGE DO I KNOW IT'S VERY POPULAR ABOUT WALKING, BIKING, JOCKEY AND RIGHT NOW, AND FOR ALL THIS KIND OF DECREASING OR, UH, EVEN HOUR OF THE GAME.

UM, I STILL LIKE TO SAY TO MY EXPERIENCE SOFTBALL USE, SO IT'S PRETTY POPULAR HERE AND ALSO BASE BASEBALL.

I ALSO VERY POPULAR IN GENDER OR WAYS, UH, I ZONE AREA.

AND, BUT YOUR SURVEYS IN THE INDICATES THE OPPOSITE AND MY, MY THOUGHT WOULD BE, THIS COULD BE AFFECT COVID-19, IT'S A LITTLE BIT SEASONED ABOUT SITUATION, BUT IT'S JUST MY HYPOTHESIS.

YES.

IT IS VERY POSSIBLE THAT THAT COVID AND THE TIME IN WHICH THE SURVEY WAS PUT OUT DID HAVE SOME, SOME DIRECT INFLUENCE, WHICH IS WHY I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER DATA POINTS THAT NEED TO FEED INTO THIS LAST QUESTION, FOLLOWING UP WITH COUNCIL MEMBER LONGER, MAYBE NOT THE LAST QUESTION.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU'RE USING THE PHRASE STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY, IS THAT GENERALLY SOMETHING THAT IS ACCEPTED BEYOND THE EXTRAORDINARY CONDITIONS OF A, OF A PANDEMIC THAT CHANGES PEOPLE'S LIVES, OR, I MEAN, JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING WITH THAT, WITH THAT, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD DO THE SURVEY IN SIX MONTHS FROM NOW? WOULD YOU GENERALLY SAY THAT THE 3.8 DEVIATION WOULD BE TRUE OR IS THAT, WOULD THAT ALSO BE IMPACTED BY THE TIMING? NO, I, I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY, UM, I WISH I HAD A DIRECT DAME.

UH, I WISH SOMEBODY COULD TELL ME HOW PANT THE PANDEMIC HAS IMPACTED EVERYTHING, BUT I CAN TELL YOU BY LOOKING AT THE SURVEY RESULTS AND COMPARING THEM TO, UM, THE SURVEY THAT WE DID IN SCOTTSDALE FIVE YEARS AGO, UM, OR SURVEYS THAT WE'VE DONE, UM, IN OTHER PARTS OF ARIZONA, SPECIFICALLY, JUST WITHIN THE LAST YEAR BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, THAT THESE RESULTS ARE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU WOULD SEE AND HA, AND HERE'S SIMPLY WHY THE SIMPLE PART OF THIS IS THAT WHEN YOU ASK THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, WHAT THEY FIND IMPORTANT AND WHAT THEY FIND UNMET NEEDS, THE GREATER NUMBERS ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE SHOWN WITH THE FOLKS THAT CAN ENGAGE IN THINGS LIKE GENERAL PARK, VISITATION, OR TRAILS.

THE LESSER

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NUMBERS ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE SHOWN IN THE MORE AGE, SPECIFIC SKILL SPECIFIC AREAS.

UM, I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT STAT TO RECOGNIZE THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ATHLETICS, WE TALK ABOUT TEAM ATHLETICS, 85% OF KIDS DROP OUT OF SPORTS TEAM SPORTS.

BY THE TIME THEY'RE 13.

IT NOT MEAN THAT WE DON'T, WE DON'T CONTINUE TO PROVIDE ATHLETIC FIELDS, BUT WE JUST KNOW THAT KIDS MOVE ON BECAUSE THEIR SKILLS DON'T ADVANCE TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE HAVING FUN.

IT STARTS TO GET COMPETITIVE, AND THEY'RE JUST NOT, UM, THEY'RE JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH OR THEY FIND OTHER THINGS TO DO.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT IS GOING TO GO INTO THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THIS IS JUST THE STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY.

A LOT OF OTHER DATA POINTS WILL, WILL RESONATE.

WOULD IT ALSO PROBABLY BE SAFE TO SAY, I'M GONNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT HERE THOUGH, BUT IF THEY'RE A SOFTBALL FAN, A FAMILY THAT'S INVOLVED IN YOUTH SOCCER, THE PANDEMIC ISN'T GOING TO STOP THAT IMPORTANCE.

I WOULD, I WOULD THINK THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO THEM BEFORE IT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM DURING IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT AFTER MAYBE THEY'RE ON THAT CUSP OF 12 TO 13 YEAR OLDS AND DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO CONTINUE.

YES.

BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, SPORTS HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR, I MEAN, WHY IS SOCCER? I THINK THE FOURTH MOST PARTICIPATED IN ACTIVITY IN THE, IN THE COUNTRY.

UM, IT'S BECAUSE IT HAS CREATED OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS, A REALLY NATIONWIDE SPORTS.

SO THAT REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU GO, IT'S EXPECTED THAT YOU HAVE SOCCER, JUST LIKE IT'S EXPECTED THAT YOU HAVE BASEBALL, UM, OR TO A LESSER EXTENT PROBABLY NOW FOOTBALL.

SO, UM, WE DID SPECIFICALLY ABOUT ATHLETIC FIELDS.

WE WANTED TO ASK ARE THEY EASILY ACCESSIBLE BASED ON THEIR CURRENT LOCATIONS.

UM, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT, UH, WE ASKED SOME VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT ATHLETIC FIELDS BECAUSE WE KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE A TOPIC.

IT RESONATED IN THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THROUGH THE WEBSITE, WHY WE DID A FOCUS GROUP WITH SPORTS FIELD GROUPS.

UM, BUT 86% OF FOLKS ARE PRETTY HAPPY WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ATHLETIC FIELDS AT THEIR CURRENTLY CURRENT LOCATIONS IN TERMS OF BEING ACCESSIBLE AGAIN, THAT DOES NOT PRECLUDE THE CONDITION RATING ASSESSMENT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW ACCESSIBLE THEY ARE.

WE WILL DO ADDITIONAL MAPPING AND INVENTORY TO, UM, TRY TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE GROWTH AND DENSITY OF YOUR COMMUNITY IS GOING TO IMPACT THIS ANSWER FIVE, 10, 15 YEARS FROM NOW.

SO PUBLIC SUPPORT, AND THIS IS WHERE THE RUBBER STARTS TO MEET THE ROAD.

UM, SO WE ASKED A SERIES OF QUESTIONS, UM, OR NOT A SERIES OF QUESTIONS, BUT GAVE PEOPLE A SERIES OF CHOICES AS TO WHERE THEY HAD SUPPORT FOR ANY ONE OF THESE SPECIFIC ACTIONS, UM, GENERAL REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE OF PARKS, CONTINUING TO DO THAT WAS BY FAR NUMBER ONE, IMPROVE YOUR EXISTING TRAIL SYSTEM WAS BY FAR NUMBER TRUE.

UM, WELL IT WAS NUMBER TWO AND THEN ADDING WALKING LOOP TRAILS AND EXISTING PARKS BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T NECESSARILY, ALWAYS WANT A LONG LINEAR SYSTEM.

THEY JUST WANT A PLACE TO GO WALK.

UM, AND THEN NUMBER THREE WAS IMPROVE, UM, RESTROOM FACILITIES, UM, AND THEN FOUR WAS GENERALLY DEVELOPED PARKS THAT HAVE THE HIGHEST NEED.

SO I HAVE THE TOP FIVE THERE, THREE OF THEM FOLKS ARE MOST INTERESTED IN YOU INVESTING IN YOUR EXISTING SYSTEM OR REINVESTING IN YOUR EXISTING SYSTEM.

THAT'S THE BIG TAKEAWAY.

UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPING NEW TRAILS CAME IN NUMBER SIX.

SO WE ASKED A LOT OF FOLKS, AGAIN, THIS IS THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

UM, AND YOU START TO LOOK AT, UM, WELL, LET'S, LET'S LOOK AT WHERE IMPROVE EXISTING ATHLETIC FIELDS.

UM, IT'S YOUR TOP 10, UM, AND THIS COULD BE REPURPOSING EXISTING ATHLETIC FIELDS.

IT COULD BE IMPROVING THEM.

IT COULD BE CREATING MULTIPURPOSE, ATHLETIC FIELDS OUT OF, UM, OUT OF, UH, THINGS THAT ARE VERY FIXED RIGHT NOW.

UM, IT COULD BE THAT WE NEED TO UPGRADE THE MAINTENANCE ON THOSE.

UH, SO IT IS ON THE FIRST PAGE WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPING NEW SPORTS FACILITIES, IT DOES LEAK OUT OF KIND OF THE FIRST PAGE HERE, UH, BUT IS AT THE TOP OF THE SECOND PAGE.

UM, AND SO I THINK THE THING THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE WHEN, EVEN ON THIS VERY FIRST PAGE,

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WHAT PEOPLE SUPPORT, WHETHER IT'S VERY SUPPORTIVE OR SOMEWHAT SUPPORTIVE AT A MINIMUM, 60% OF FOLKS ARE EITHER VERY SUPPORTIVE OR SOMEWHAT SUPPORTIVE OF DEVELOPING A NEW AREA FOR COMMUNITY EVENTS.

AND THAT WAS DURING COVID.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT PEOPLE STILL FEEL LIKE COMMUNITY EVENTS ARE IMPORTANT TO YOUR COMMUNITY.

UM, AND THEN WHEN YOU EVEN GET TO THE TOP OF THE NEXT PAGE, IT ISN'T UNTIL YOU GET DOWN TO ADD MORE DOG PARKS, THAT THE NUMBER OF VERY SUPPORTIVE AND SOMEWHAT SUPPORTIVE FALLS BELOW 50%, BUT THIS IS THE DREAM LIST RIGHT NOW, WHAT ARE THEY MOST WILLING TO FUND? MMM.

AND THIS IS WHERE WE SEE A LOT OF CONSISTENCY.

UM, AND IN FACT, YOUR TOP SIX HERE, MAYBE NOT THE EXACT SAME ORDER IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE WILLING TO FUND, UM, IS, UH, IS BY FAR, UM, CONSISTENT WITH, WITH WHAT THEY HAVE SUPPORT FOR.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY, UM, NONE OF THESE NUMBERS ARE OVER 50%.

SO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT, AND I THINK WHEN YOU ASK THIS QUESTION, PEOPLE, IT AS, UM, THAT THEY, YOU WANT MORE OF THEIR MONEY TO DO THESE THINGS.

I, THE WAY I INTERPRET QUESTION 13 AND QUESTION 14 IS SIMPLY, THEY WANT YOU TO USE THE EXISTING FUNDS IN THIS SPECIFIC WAY.

IF THEY WERE TO ACTUALLY HAVE TO PAY MORE MONEY, UM, ALMOST 50% OF YOUR COMMUNITY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN DOING SO TO REPAIR AND INCREASED MAINTENANCE OF YOUR EXISTING PARK SYSTEM, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE STARTS TO TRAIL OFF.

ALRIGHT, SO AGAIN, COMMUNITY NEEDS, THIS IS JUST AN INITIAL SNAPSHOT.

UM, IT IS NOT MEANT TO IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM BEING THAT THINGS ON THE LOW PRIORITY, UM, THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO INVEST IN AND, OR EXPAND.

THE ONE THING THAT WE HAVE TO FULLY RECOGNIZE IS THAT IF YOU WERE IN A COMMUNITY THAT WASN'T GROWING OR WAS IN SOME CASES LIKE SOME COMMUNITIES THAT WE WORKED IN LOSING POPULATION, AND THEN WE WOULD NOT BE IN A POSITION OF ADDING THINGS THAT WERE ON THE LOW PRIORITY, BUT SIMPLY BECAUSE OF YOUR GROWTH TO MAINTAIN A SPECIFIC LEVEL OF SERVICE, YOUR EXISTING LEVEL OF SERVICE, WHICH WE HAVEN'T DETERMINED WHAT THAT IS.

UM, IT, WE SIMPLY ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO INVEST IN YOUR PARK SYSTEM, UM, ACROSS ALL SPECTRUMS, WHETHER IT BE LOW, MEDIUM, OR HIGH, WE MAY, UM, END UP NOT BEING ABLE TO DO SOME VERY SPECIFIC THINGS BECAUSE GEOGRAPHY PARKLAND DON'T ALLOW YOU TO DO IT.

UM, BUT, UH, IT SIMPLY MEANS THAT YOU, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY OR WILL HAVE A NEED TO INVEST IN EXPERIENCES AS, UM, EXPERIENCES, UM, IN, YOU KNOW, TO, TO HELP SUPPORT THE NEEDS OF YOUR COMMUNITY.

WHEN WE LOOKED AT JUST THE HIGH PRIORITIES AND WE LOOKED AT HOW THEY COMPARED CITYWIDE TO EACH OF THE FOUR PARK PLANNING AREAS, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CONSISTENCY.

UM, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A CLEAR TOP FIVE IN TERMS OF JUST HIGH PRIORITIES.

UM, AS OF RIGHT NOW, CITYWIDE, THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE NORTH FOUR OUT OF THE TOP FIVE IN THE SOUTHEAST, ALL OF THE, UM, TOP FIVE IN THE SOUTHWEST PLUS FISHING.

AND THEN, UM, JUST THREE THINGS ARE MOST IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE THAT CURRENTLY LIVE IN THE WEST CHANDLER, UM, PARK PLANNING AREA, AGAIN, SAME THING, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THE HIGH PRIORITY INVESTMENT IN PARKS, FACILITIES AND AMENITIES, UM, IS MUCH GREATER.

UH, ALMOST, I THINK IT'S A PRETTY MUCH A TOP 10 THERE.

UM, AND IT'S PRETTY CONSISTENT, THE IMPORTANCE AND UNMET NEEDS.

UM, AGAIN, I WILL STATE, UH, YOU ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

IF YOU ARE AT THE VERY LEAST MAINTAIN AN EXISTING LEVEL OF SERVICE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EXPAND YOUR PARK SYSTEM ACROSS THE BOARD HIGH, MEDIUM TO LOW, UM, AGAIN, UH, IN TERMS OF CONSISTENCY, A LOT OF CONSISTENCY.

IN FACT, THIS IS WHERE THE WEST CATCHES UP WITH THE CITY AS A WHOLE, UM, WEST PARK PLANNING AREA IS EXACTLY THE SAME IN TERMS OF YOUR HIGH PRIORITIES AS A CITY, AS A WHOLE.

UM,

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THE NORTH IS REALLY CLOSE, BUT INSTEAD OF LARGE COMMUNITY PARKS, THEY WANT SPLASH CROWDS.

UM, SOUTHEAST IS A LITTLE BIT MORE DIVERSE.

UM, AND THEN THE SOUTHWEST HAS VERY SPECIFIC NEEDS, TRAILS, TRAILS, COMMUNITY GARDENS, AND RAMADA.

OKAY.

SO WHAT THIS HELPS US DO IS IT STARTS TO HELP US FRAME.

WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT HAVING A PARK, WHETHER YOU'RE REDEVELOPING, ANY EXISTING PARK OR YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, BUILDING NEW, IT, IT CREATES A GOOD FOUNDATION ON WHICH TO GET INTO SITE-SPECIFIC MASTER PLANNING.

IS IT THE END ALL BE ALL ABSOLUTELY NOT.

CAN WE PUT ATHLETIC FIELDS IN EVERY PARK? NO, BECAUSE EVERY PARK ISN'T LARGE ENOUGH, EVERY PARK WON'T HAVE THE PARKING, UM, IT WON'T HAVE THE RESTROOMS. IT WON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO MANAGE TRAFFIC.

UM, BUT THESE START TO CREATE THE BASIC FOUNDATION BASIC NEEDS THAT PEOPLE WANT A PARK SYSTEM.

UM, AND THEN AS YOU GO FORWARD, AS WE INTRODUCE ALL OF THOSE OTHER DATA POINTS, WE ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY WILL START TO UNDERSTAND WHERE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU NEED MORE ATHLETIC FIELDS.

SO OUR NEXT STEP, I THINK I'VE COVERED A LOT OF THIS DURING OUR DIALOGUE, BUT WE HAVE THE VIRTUAL COMMUNITY MEETING TOMORROW AS MR. BASS SAID, WE HAVE 60 FOLKS REGISTERED.

AS OF RIGHT NOW.

UM, WE ARE GOING TO GET INTO THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARDS AND GEOGRAPHIC ANALYSIS.

UM, WE WILL HAVE, UM, A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR YOU TO CONSIDER, UM, OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

UM, WE ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY, AS I SAID, WILL, UM, CREATE FUNDING AND REVENUE STRATEGIES.

WE ARE GOING TO ROUTE THIS ENTIRE MASTER PLAN AND WHAT WE CALL TOTAL COST OF OWNERSHIP, CAPITAL INVESTMENT OPERATIONS, AND MAINTENANCE DOLLARS NECESSARY TO MANAGE THAT CAPITAL INVESTMENT.

AND THEN TO BE ABLE TO PLAN FOR LIFECYCLE REPLACEMENT, EVEN IF IT'S A PLAYGROUND, A SPLASH PAD, ATHLETIC FIELD LIGHTING, NONE OF THAT STUFF LASTS FOREVER.

SOME OF IT HAS A MUCH LONGER SHELF LIFE THAN OTHERS.

UM, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GO INTO MAKING DECISIONS, EYES WIDE OPEN REGARDING YOUR COSTS.

UM, ASSET MANAGEMENT PLAN IS REALLY HOW DO YOU TAKE YOUR OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE DOLLARS AND MANAGE EACH, EVERY ASSET IN INFRASTRUCTURE AND YOUR PARK SYSTEM SO THAT IT REACHES ITS LIFECYCLE, BUY A NEW CAR, DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO CHANGE THE OIL.

HOW LONG IS THAT CAR GONNA LAST SAME CONCEPT WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU BUILD ON A PARK SYSTEM? UM, AND THEN OF COURSE THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN AND THE FINAL MASTER PLAN.

SO, UM, THESE ARE KIND OF REALLY OUR NEXT STEPS OVER THE NEXT FIVE MONTHS.

UM, WE HOPE TO HAVE, UH, BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU LATER THIS FALL, UM, AND THEN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE, I THINK, A REALLY MORE ROBUST CONVERSATION THAT INTERFACES THIS SPECIFIC SET OF DATA WITH ALL THE OTHER DATA THAT'S YET TO COME.

THAT'S A MEMBER FLOWN.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND YOUR STUDY AND ANALYSIS.

UM, I HAD BEEN LISTENING TO YOU AND LOOKING OVER YOUR PRESENTATION, I FOUND THERE'S A, SOMETHING THAT WAS MISSING IS LOTS.

OUR MASTER PLAN SHOULD NOT JUST OWN IT BASED ON THE LIST AND OPINION.

OF COURSE, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

SURE.

YEAH, BUT ALSO IT SHOULD BE LINKED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY, FOR EXAMPLE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

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