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WELL, GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO OUR STUDY SESSIONS, UH, WHICH IS PRECEDING OR OUR REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
WE'RE RATIFYING A VOTE IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IS THAT, THAT IS ON A, ALRIGHT, LET ME LOOK AT MY NOTES AGAIN.
SO WELCOME TO THE, UM, PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY COMMISSION MEETING OF AUGUST 24TH CLERK.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL CHAIRMAN HARTKE HERE.
MR. LOPEZ COMMISSIONER DEARMAN IS ABSENT COMMISSIONER STEWART, MR. MCCLYMONDS COMMISSIONER WONG, COMMISSIONER ROW COMMISSIONER ORLANDO.
DO WE HAVE ANY UNSCHEDULED PUBLIC APPEARANCES OR OUR PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY COMMISSION? ALL RIGHT.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
OUR CONSENT AGENDA OR TWO ITEMS MINUTES AND A RESOLUTION.AND I BELIEVE WITH THE RESOLUTION, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION AND THAT WOULD BE, IS THAT WITH LEAH? YES, LEAH PAL, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD RESOURCES DIRECTOR AND AMY JACOBSON, HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT MANAGER.
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE HEC MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
UM, WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT FORWARD TO YOU OUR FIVE YEAR PLAN, INCLUDING OUR ANNUAL PLAN, OUR CAPITAL FUND.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE DO ON A REGULAR BASIS, BUT THERE'S SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT SPECIAL ABOUT THIS ONE.
AND THIS IS WHERE WE'RE CONTINUING OUR CONVERSATION TO REDEVELOP OUR PUBLIC HOUSING.
SO AT THIS POINT, I'D LIKE TO BRING UP AMY JACOBSON WHO WILL GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION THIS EVENING.
I'M GOING TO TAKE OFF MY MASK SO YOU CAN HEAR ME A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
EVERY FIVE YEARS, HUD REQUIRES PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITIES TO SUBMIT A NEW FIVE YEAR PLAN, AS WELL AS A YEARLY ANNUAL PLAN FOR HOUSING PROGRAMS FOR PUBLIC HOUSING.
IN OUR HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER PROGRAMS, WE ARE VERY PROUD TO BE A HIGH PERFORMING PHA DESIGNATED BY HUD, WHICH MEANS WE EFFECTIVELY OPERATE AT A HIGH STANDARD IN MANAGEMENT OF HOUSING PROGRAMS, BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WITH OUR FEDERAL DOLLARS, AS WELL AS HIGH SCORING AND OUR PHYSICAL INSPECTIONS AND DISTRIBUTION OF OUR CAPITAL FUNDS.
OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WE WILL CONTINUE THESE HIGH STANDARDS.
THE PHA PLAN THAT'S PRESENTED THIS EVENING INCORPORATES THESE DOCUMENTS.
THE FIVE YEAR PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES OUR FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN, OUR ANNUAL PLAN FOR 2020, THE ADMINISTRATIVE PLAN FOR OUR HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER PROGRAM AND OUR COP, WHICH IS OUR ADMISSIONS AND CONTINUED OCCUPANCY POLICIES FOR OUR PUBLIC HOUSING PROGRAM THIS YEAR, BECAUSE WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC, HUD RELEASED OUR COVID STATUTORY AND REGULATORY WAIVERS.
ONE OF THE WAIVERS ALLOWS A PHA TO EXTEND THE DEADLINE FROM OUR USUAL SUBMISSION OF THIS PHA PLAN, WHICH IS APRIL 17TH TO OCTOBER 18TH.
THERE ARE ADDITIONAL SOME ADMINISTRATIVE WAIVERS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THIS ANNUAL PLAN.
WE STARTED REVIEWING OUR POLICIES IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR AND WE UPDATED OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH IS OUR NEXT FIVE YEARS.
WE CONDUCTED OUR REQUIRED PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, WHICH WENT FROM JANUARY 27TH TO MARCH 12TH AND HAD A PUBLIC HEARING ON FEBRUARY 12TH.
WE HAD RESIDENT ADVISORY BOARD MEETINGS, WHICH WERE FOUR FROM NOVEMBER TO MARCH.
THIS SLIDE IS JUST A SUMMARY OF OUR POLICY CHANGES.
WE UPDATED OUR UTILITY ALLOWANCE, WHICH WE HAVE TO DO EVERY YEAR.
WE ALSO LOOKED AT OUR PLACEMENT ON OUR WAITLIST NOTIFICATION.
WE CURRENTLY HAD 30 DAYS IN ORDER TO GIVE STAFF ADDITIONAL TIME TO NOTIFY RESIDENTS THAT ARE PLACED ON OUR PROJECT OR A WAIT LIST.
UM, WE WENT UP TO 90 DAYS AND OUR GOAL IS TO NOTIFY APPLICANT'S AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
BUT, UM, WE DID ALLOW FOR UP TO 90 DAYS, THE NEXT IS OUR OVER INCOME TENANT EVALUATION.
HUD'S THIS IS A REGULATORY REQUIREMENT.
UM, HOUSING, UM, INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE LIVING IN PUBLIC HOUSING CAN STAY IN HOUSING IF THEY'RE OVER INCOME.
HOWEVER, WE ARE TO LOOK AT THEIR INCOME ONE YEAR AFTER THEIR INCOME CHANGES.
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WAIVERS.UM, AGAIN, HUD HAS ALLOWED REGULATORY WAIVERS.
UM, THESE ARE TEMPORARY ONLY UNTIL DECEMBER 31ST AND THEY MOSTLY DEAL WITH OUR OPERATION ISSUES, UH, BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC.
AND EXAMPLE OF THIS WOULD BE, WE ARE NO LONGER DOING ANNUAL INSPECTIONS ARE HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER PROGRAM UNTIL IT'S SAFE TO ENTER THE NEXT, UM, MORE IMPORTANT ONE IS OUR FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN COMMISSIONER RO.
CHAIRMAN AMY, A QUESTION FOR YOU ON THE OVER, UM, UH, OVER INCOME ON THAT, ON THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE.
I THINK THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT ALLOWING PEOPLE TO STAY IN PUBLIC HOUSING FOR WHAT 24 MONTHS.
AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS CURRENTLY CORRECT.
AND THEN, AND WE HAVE AN OPTION OF EXTENDING IT OR NOT EXTENDING IT.
SO I'M CHAIRMAN HARKIN COMMISSION COMMISSION MEMBER WROTE.
SO HOW DO ALLOWS FOR PUBLIC HOUSING RESIDENTS TO STAY IN HOUSING? SO IF THEY INCREASE THEIR INCOME OVER THE INCOME, UM, CAPS, WE DON'T JUST KICK THEM OUT.
WE ALLOW THEM TO STAY AND REEVALUATE WHERE THEIR INCOME OVER THAT NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE THERE COULD BE INCOME CHANGES, WHICH THEN WOULD ALLOW THEM TO STAY LONGER IF THEY HAVE A DECREASE OF INCOME.
SO HOW DOES YOUR SAYING, KEEP THEM IN HOUSING AT LEAST FOR ANOTHER YEAR, AND THEN THEREAFTER YOU AS THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR INCOME, UH, TO SEE WHERE THEY'RE AT, THEY WILL CONTINUE TO PAY WHAT WE CALL FLAT RENT, UM, WHICH IS MAJORITY OF THEIR INCOME, WHICH IS 30% OF THEIR INCOME TO HOUSING AND THAT'S THAT FLAT RENT, BUT WE DO EVALUATE THE INCOME, UM, AFTER THAT YEAR, IF THEY ARE OVER INCOME AND THAT'S A HUD REQUIREMENT.
SO I STILL DON'T EVALUATE IS A GOOD WORD.
HOWEVER, LET'S SAY SOMEBODY EXCEEDS THE OVER INCOME AND THEY DO IT FOR WHAT 24 MONTHS IS THAT THE, IS THAT THE PERIOD IT'S ACTUALLY ONE YEAR? SO IT'S 12 MONTHS, WE HAVE TO EVALUATE THEIR INCOME.
AT WHAT POINT ARE WE GOING TO MAKE A DECISION TO SAY, LOOK, WE, THE CITY, THE COMMUNITY HAS, HAS BEEN HELPFUL AND NOW YOU NEED TO GO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
WHEN DO WE DO THAT? UM, CHAIRMAN HARTKE COMMISSION MEMBER ROSE.
SO WE WILL LOOK AT THEIR INCOME.
SO SAY FOR INSTANCE, IF THEIR INCOME IS STILL THE OVER INCOME, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THAT FAMILY TO PROVIDE OTHER ADDITIONAL HOUSING OPTIONS TO ALLOW FOR THOSE THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON OUR PUBLIC HOUSING, WAIT LIST TO GO INTO HOUSING, UM, WHICH WILL FREE UP THAT UNIT FOR ANOTHER LOW INCOME FAMILY.
SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM.
HOWEVER, HUD IS SAYING THAT WE CAN'T NECESSARILY EVICT THEM ONLY BECAUSE THEY ARE OVER INCOME WITHIN THAT YEAR.
SO FOR WHAT AREAS FOR HOW LONG WE'LL CONTINUE TO EVALUATE THEM UP TO 20 A YEAR, YEAR AFTER YEAR.
SO WITHIN THAT NEXT YEAR, IF THEY ARE STILL OVER INCOME, THEN WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM.
UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HUD IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE US ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE AS A HOUSING AUTHORITY.
UM, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED IN OUR, IN OUR PLAN CURRENTLY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, UM, AGAIN, DON'T EVICT FAMILIES, JUST BECAUSE THEY MAY BE A THOUSAND OR 2000 OVER THE INCOME.
SO LET ME, I THINK WHAT I HEAR COMMISSIONER ROSE ASKING IS WHAT, AT WHAT POINT DO WE TELL FAMILIES THAT, HEY, WE'VE HELPED YOU.
WE DO WANT TO MAKE THIS, THIS SPACE AVAILABLE FOR ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL, OUR FAMILY WHAT'S THE CRITERIA THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY ASSIST THEM IN MOVING OUT OF THE CHANDLER PROVIDED PUBLIC HOUSING.
IS THAT GOOD? THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
I WOULD THINK AT SOME POINT, UM, PEOPLE WOULD MOVE TOWARD A MARKET RATE AND WHETHER THAT WAS INCREMENTALLY OVER TIME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT WOULD SEEM LIKE THERE'D BE A PROCEDURE AND A PROCESS WORK WITH THEM IS A LITTLE VAGUE.
IS THE, IS THE, IS THE, DO WE HAVE A POINT WHERE THEY EVENTUALLY BECOME A WHERE THEY'RE PAYING MARKET SO WE CAN EXTEND THE HAND TO SOMEONE ELSE? GREAT.
UM, CHAIRMAN HARTKE AND COMMISSIONER MEMBER ROW.
I UNDERSTAND, UM, THE QUESTION AND I THINK THE, THE ISSUE IS IN REGARDS TO THE TIMEFRAME AND HUD JUST PROVIDED US GUIDANCE RELATED JUST TO THE EVALUATION OF THEIR INCOME.
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AGAIN, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THAT FAMILY TO PROVIDE THEM OTHER AFFORDABLE HOUSING RESOURCES OR UNITS, WHETHER THEY BE, YOU KNOW, LOCATED IN CHANDLER OR ELSEWHERE TO CONTINUE THAT STABILIZATION FOR THAT FAMILY, ULTIMATELY THAT'S THEIR GOAL IS TO REACH SELF-SUFFICIENCY SO THAT THEY'RE NOT UTILIZING, UM, OUR PUBLIC HOUSING UNIT, IF THEY ARE OVER INCOME, BUT IT'S A RESPONSIBILITY AS A HOUSING AUTHORITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DOCUMENT THAT FILE YEAR OVER YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT HOUSING OR THAT FAMILY, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE, LIKE I MENTIONED, THERE COULD BE A LOT OF CHANGES THAT WERE HAPPENING WITH THAT FAMILY.YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY MAY LOSE A JOB, ET CETERA, ESPECIALLY DURING THIS TIME, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT NOT ONLY ARE WE WORKING WITH THE FAMILIES TO PROVIDE THEM ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AND UNITS, BUT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THEIR INCOME AND WE DOCUMENT THAT.
AND AGAIN, HUD HASN'T BEEN COMPLETELY CLEAR YET WE'RE STILL WAITING ON GUIDANCE.
UM, RELATED TO THAT PIH NOTICE 2000, 19 DASH 11.
AND WE CAN COME BACK WITH FURTHER INFORMATION, UM, TO THE, TO THE BOARD ONCE WE HAVE THAT FINAL, UM, DETERMINATION.
BUT AGAIN, WHAT IS CLEAR IN THAT NOTICE IS THAT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO A WORK WITH THAT FAMILY AND B LOOK AT THEIR INCOME, EVEN IF THEY'RE OVER INCOME, OKAY, THAT'S FINE.
I MIGHT NOT BE THE RIGHT TIME TO DISCUSS IT OR WHATEVER, BUT IT WOULD SEEM TO BE LIKE WHEN, IF SOMEONE IS EXCEEDING AND EXCEEDING AND EXCEEDING GOOD FOR THEM.
AND, UH, AND I WOULD SAY WE SHOULD HAVE A VERY CLEAR PATH TOWARDS, UH, HELPING THEM MOVE ON AND JUST BECOME A REGULAR PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND, UH, SO EVALUATION, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE FROM ONE GENERATION TO THE NEXT TO THE NEXT YEAR, YOUR CHILDREN OR WHATEVER.
IT'S LIKE AT SOME POINT, THANK YOU.
WE HOPE YOU'LL GO OFF AND DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
OTHER PEOPLE NEED THE HOUSING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
IS THAT POSSIBLE CHAIRMAN HARKEY COMMISSION MEMBER WROTE? ABSOLUTELY.
UM, AS I MENTIONED THAT THE LAST COMMISSION OR COMMISSIONING MEETING, WE DO HAVE OUR SELF SUFFICIENCY PROGRAM.
AND, UM, MY HOPE IS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THAT FAMILY UNDER THAT PROGRAM THAT THEY WILL HAVE, UH, ADDITIONAL SELF-SUFFICIENCY LATER.
UM, BUT AGAIN, UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS A REGULATORY REQUIREMENT.
UM, THEY'RE STILL ALLOWED TO STAY IN PUBLIC HOUSING.
WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT THEIR INCOME EVERY YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOCUMENTING, WE'RE PROVIDING THOSE RESOURCES AND SERVICES TO THAT FAMILY SO THEY CAN TRANSITION OUT OF PUBLIC HOUSING.
I JUST DON'T THINK WE'RE HEARING EACH OTHER, BUT THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LOPEZ.
DO YOU HAVE ANY FAMILIES CURRENTLY LIVING IN BUILDINGS THAT ARE OVER INCOME OR MORE THAN, THAN A YEAR? UM, UM, CHAIRMAN HERKY COMMISSION MEMBER, UH, LOPEZ.
I WOULD HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU.
I DON'T KNOW THAT SPECIFIC NUMBER.
JUST WONDERING IF WE EVEN HAVE THIS ISSUE.
SO ANY, LET ME, LET ME TRY TO GET HERE IS, COULD YOU GIVE US THE CRITERIA FOR RESIDENTS STAYING IN AND THE CRITERIA FOR THEM MOVING OUT? SO THESE ARE THE STEPS THAT ARE TAKING, I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT COMMISSIONER ROWE IS ASKING IS WHAT DOES EVALUATE MEAN? AND WHAT'S THE CRITERIA THAT MOVES THEM OUT OTHER THAN CHECKING THEIR INCOME.
WHAT ARE THE, WHAT ARE THE STEPS AND HOW DO WE DO THAT FROM A TO B THAT'S? I DON'T, I THINK YOU'VE TRIED TO ANSWER THAT, BUT IF YOU COULD GET THAT TO US, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
LET ME SAY, SHE'S GOING TO ANSWER.
SO IN TERMS OF PUBLIC HOUSING, THAT IS, UH, PROPERTIES THAT THE CITY OF CHANDLER PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY OWN AND OPERATE.
SO, UM, DURING THE, UM, OPENING OF A WAITLIST, WE DO PRE-SCREENING, WE SCREEN, WE DO BACKGROUND CHECKS.
WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY NEGATIVE, UM, CREDIT CHECKS, UM, AS WELL AS, UM, OTHER BACKGROUNDS THAT WOULD FLAG THEM TO BE NOT ALLOWED TO LIVE IN PUBLIC HOUSING, INCLUDING DEBTS OWED FROM OTHER PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITIES.
UM, ONCE THAT'S COMPLETED, THEY ARE PUT, UM, PLACED ON OUR WAITING LIST.
ONCE THAT, UM, FAMILY IS, UM, CALLED UP AND WE HAVE AN AVAILABLE UNIT IN PUBLIC HOUSING, THEN THAT, UM, FAMILY, UH, SIGNS ELISE WORKS WITH OUR STAFF AND CONTINUES, UM, LIVING IN PUBLIC HOUSING FOR AS LONG AS THEY MAY NEED TO.
UM, WE DO HAVE THE FAMILY SELF-SUFFICIENCY PROGRAM.
WE TRY TO CAPTURE AS MANY FAMILIES AS POSSIBLE.
HOWEVER, WE ONLY HAVE 60 SLOTS AND THAT, BUT OUR HOUSING SPECIALISTS WORK WITH OUR PUBLIC HOUSING FAMILIES ON
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VERY, AT LEAST A YEARLY BASIS.AND ANY INCOME CHANGES DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH RENT THEY PAY.
SO IN PUBLIC HOUSING, THEY PAID 30% OF THEIR INCOME TO RENT.
UM, AND THE DIFFERENCE IS SUBSIDIZED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
THE RENT IS PAID TO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.
SO IN THE INSTANCE OF, UH, HIGH, UH, YOU KNOW, FAMILIES THAT HAVE HIGHER INCOME, WE THEN RECEIVE HIGHER RENTAL PAYMENTS THEN FOR, FROM THOSE FAMILIES, UM, FOR INCOMES THAT ARE HIGHER ABOVE WHAT THE CAP IS FOR, UM, LOW INCOME FAMILIES, UM, THEY PAY A FLAT RENT AND THAT FLAT RENT, UM, THEY WILL CONTINUE TO PAY AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO, LIKE I SAID, TO EVALUATE WHAT THAT INCOME IS, CAUSE THERE COULD BE A CHANGE.
AND HOW DOES JUST SAYING THAT WE DON'T ALLOW THOSE FOLKS TO BE EVICTED JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE A HIGHER INCOME, WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THAT FAMILY YEAR OVER YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT FAMILY CAN EXIT OUT OF PUBLIC HOUSING INTO ANOTHER AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNIT OR MARKET UNIT, UM, AND HAVE THAT SINCE, YOU KNOW, STABILITY FOR THEIR FAMILY.
UM, AND SO GENERALLY THAT'S WHAT THE PUBLIC HOUSING PROGRAM DOES AND HOW WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ELEVATE OUR HOUSING, YOU KNOW, UP TO THAT LEVEL.
SO FAMILIES DO BECOME SELF SUFFICIENT.
ALTHOUGH ULTIMATELY, AS WE TURN OVER UNITS, THAT MEANS THE MORE PEOPLE WE CAN HOUSE ON OUR CURRENT HOUSING LIST, WE HAVE OVER A THOUSAND FAMILIES CURRENTLY ON OUR WAIT LIST.
OUR WAITING LIST IS NOW CLOSED BECAUSE WE HAVE A LONG WAITING LIST TO SERVE THOSE FAMILIES.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE PROVIDE.
WE ONLY HAVE 303 PUBLIC HOUSING UNITS.
WE WISH WE HAD MORE, BUT OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON A WAIT LIST, THE AMOUNT OF AVAILABLE HOUSING RIGHT NOW LEASE FEE FOR PUBLIC HOUSING IS JUST THE 303 HERE IN CHANDLER.
UM, COMMISSIONER ORLANDO, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO DRIVE THAT YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE GETTING, I THINK I HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR TO GETTING CONFLICTING GUIDELINES.
THERE'S NOTHING WE COULD DO HERE BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING CONFLICTING GUIDELINES.
SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE WANTED TO CHANGE ABOUT THAT, WE NEED TO GO LOBBY OUR LEGISLATIVE ACTIVITY TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE GUIDELINES MORE CLEAR.
SO, I MEAN, I THINK YOU'RE WORKING, THAT'S WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY FIVE TIMES, RIGHT? YES.
COMMISSION MEMBER, HEART KEY COUNCIL OR COMMISSION MEMBER ORLANDO.
AND WE LOOK AT WHEN WE DO A PUBLIC HOUSING PLAN, REGULATORY CHANGES AND ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES, AND UNFORTUNATELY THIS WAS A REGULATORY CHANGE THAT WE HAD TO.
SO IF WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, IT NEEDS TO BE DONE FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL TO MAKE, GIVE YOU MORE GUIDANCE.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WONG, UM, NORMAL IN REGULAR REGULARLY, UH, HOW MANY, UH, OPENING EVERY YEARS, HOW MANY HOUSING AVAILABLE EVERY YEAR, CHAIRMAN HEART KEY COMMISSION MEMBER LONG.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONLY 303 PUBLIC HOUSING UNITS AND WE HAVE 486 HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHERS, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS SECTION EIGHT, IN ADDITION TO 11 AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, UNITS THAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, UH, OWNS AND OPERATES.
UM, AND THAT IS, UH, ALL THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CURRENT INVENTORY.
MY QUESTION IS, UM, EVERY YEAR, HOW MANY NEW TENANTS CAN MOVE IN, UM, COMMISSION MEMBER WONG? IT DEPENDS.
SO DEPENDING ON HOW MANY PEOPLE MOVE OUT OF PUBLIC HOUSING AS ONE NUMBER IS HOWEVER MANY PEOPLE WE CAN SERVE.
I WOULD SAY AN AVERAGE WE HAVE ABOUT ONE TURNOVER EVERY MONTH, ONE, 10, OR SO LOTS ABOUT 12 PEOPLE, TOTAL HOUSES PER HOUSEHOLD PER YEAR.
THE NEXT IS THE UPDATED FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN OF WHICH IS THE 20, 2025.
AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THAT IS THAT OUR STRATEGIC PLAN INTRODUCES SOME NEW ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING REDEVELOPMENT OF PUBLIC HOUSING.
AND WE'RE REALLY POISED TO TRANSITION FROM A PROVIDER OF DECENT, SAFE SANITARY HOUSING TO THE PROVIDER OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT REALLY MEETS A HIGHER COMMUNITY VISION.
UM, OUR UPDATED GOALS AND OBJECTIVES.
UM, WE'VE HISTORICALLY SERVED THE HOUSING NEEDS OF PERSONS WITH LOW INCOME AND VERY LOW INCOME HERE IN CHANDLER.
AND WE'LL, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT, BUT TRANSITION INTO A REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY LOOKS LIKE LEVERAGING PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, BRINGING IN ADDITIONAL RESOURCES.
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UM, WE'VE AGAIN, I'VE MENTIONED HAVE OWNED AND OPERATE PUBLIC HOUSING SINCE 1972.THESE BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN IN THE SAME CONDITION, UM, IN THAT 1972 DESIGN, UM, WE'VE DONE MAJOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE YEARS, SO THEY ARE VERY WELL MAINTAINED.
UM, HENCE MY FIRST, UM, INTRODUCTION THAT WE ARE A HIGH PERFORMING, UM, HOUSING AUTHORITY.
OUR LAST SCORE WAS 96 OUT OF A HUNDRED.
SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO MAINTAIN THESE UNITS, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE OLD.
UM, OUR UPDATED VISION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, REALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE NEEDS AND THE COMMUNITY NEEDS.
UH, WE HAVE AT LEAST 9,400 AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS THAT WE NEED TO SEE HERE IN CHANDLER.
AND THE NEXT 10 YEARS, AND HUD HAS ALLOWED HOUSING AUTHORITIES TO UTILIZE REPOSITIONING TOOLS.
AND ONE OF THE TOOLS IS A RENTAL ASSISTANCE DEMONSTRATION PROGRAM.
AND WITH YOUR APPROVAL, WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, WE ENVISION APPLYING FOR RAD TO REPOSITION OUR PUBLIC HOUSING PORTFOLIO TO REALLY BETTER SERVE THE NEEDS AND THE MORE MODERN FUNCTIONS THAT OUR FAMILIES NEED.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THE STRENGTH AND THE FINANCIAL VIABILITY OF OUR PHA.
AND WE'RE LOOKING ALWAYS FOR INNOVATIVE WAYS TO DELIVER AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND PARTNERSHIPS EITHER WITH CURRENT EXISTING OR NEW PROGRAMS. SO WHY REPOSITIONING FEDERAL FUNDING HAS NOT KEPT UP WITH THE CAPITAL NEEDS? AS I MENTIONED, UH, WE DO GET, UH, AN ALLOCATION OF FUNDS EVERY YEAR FOR CAPITAL FUNDS.
SO WE HAD A CAPITAL NEEDS ASSESSMENT DONE ON ALL OF OUR PUBLIC HOUSING.
AND OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS, WE NEED ABOUT $22 MILLION.
UM, AND WE ONLY GET ABOUT $600,000 A YEAR.
IT'S COSTLY TO MAINTAIN OUR OLDER BUILDINGS.
WE'RE CONTINUING TO SEE OUR BUILDING SYSTEMS NEED FULL REPAIR, AND WE'RE WANTING TO LEVERAGE THE PROPERTY'S VALUE AND HAVE ADDITIONAL HOUSING AS WELL AS A NEW DESIGNED HOUSING.
HOW DO WE MEET OUR OBJECTIVES? WELL, WE CAN REPOSITION OUR PUBLIC HOUSING INTO A SECTION EIGHT PLATFORM OR THE PROJECT, UH, SUBSIDY IS IN THE, IN THE PROJECT.
UM, THE FACILITIES, UM, FOR REHAB OR DEMOLITION, WE COULD DO NEW CONSTRUCTION.
UM, WE CAN FORM PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.
WE CAN BRING ON A CO-DEVELOPER TO ASSIST WITH US IN OUR, UM, UPDATING OF OUR PUBLIC HOUSING, AS WELL AS LIKE I MENTIONED, LEVERAGE PRIVATE FINANCING AND REDUCE OUR RELIANCE ON FEDERAL FUNDING.
WHAT WE'VE DONE TO DATE, WE'VE RETAINED A NEW CONSULTANT.
UM, WE'VE DONE SITE FEASIBILITY AND DEVELOPMENT STRUCTURE.
WE'VE DEVELOPED OUR FIVE YEAR PLAN.
THAT'S WHY, UH, THIS, UM, UM, WE'RE TALKING TONIGHT BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO REDEVELOP OUR PUBLIC HOUSING.
WE'VE ALSO HAD RESIDENT MEETINGS AND WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF THEM.
ONE WAS JUST THIS LAST THURSDAY.
UM, OUR NEXT STEPS INCLUDE SUBMITTING OUR PUBLIC, UH, PHA PLAN TO HUD, INCLUDING OUR RAD APPLICATION.
UM, AND THEN ALSO LOOKING TO ISSUE AN RFQ OR AN RFP FOR A CO-DEVELOPER, UM, TO REPOSITION OUR PUBLIC HOUSING AND THEN CONTINUE A RESIDENT, UM, MEETINGS IN OUR FEEDBACK.
UM, OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE IN OCTOBER AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR RESIDENTS TO HELP US POTENTIALLY WITH THE DESIGN, UM, AND OTHER FACTORS.
AND SO WE WILL BEGINNING TO START THAT HOPEFULLY WITH YOUR APPROVAL THIS EVENING, UM, TO CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
ONE THING THAT STRUCK ME WAS THE, UH, YOU'VE GOT A $21,400,000 DELTA.
THAT BASED ON WHAT YOU SAID THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS ARE AND THE FEDERAL, GOVERNMENT'S NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THAT.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE SORT OF DEVELOPING THIS FIVE YEAR PLAN SO THAT WE CAN FIND PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS TO COVER THAT DELTA, OR WILL IT BE SOME TAXPAYER CITY TAX PAY TAXES PAID TOWARDS THAT.
AND IS THAT WHAT THE REST OF THIS PRESENTATION WILL BE, OR WHERE YOU LOOKING FOR DIRECTION? THE CHAIRMAN HARKEY COMMISSION MEMBER STEWART, WE ARE LOOKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL TO SUBMIT A RENTAL ASSISTANCE DEMONSTRATION PROD, UH, APPLICATION TO HUD, WHICH INCLUDES, UM, UH, MULTIPLE LAYERS OF DIFFERENT FINANCING.
MAJORITY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING CREATED NATIONALLY IS WITH THE LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROGRAM.
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ALSO USE BOND ALLOCATION, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL SOFT MONEY, BUT THE GOAL IS TO REDUCE THE, THE DEBT.SO YOUR, YOUR EQUITIES HIGHER.
AND ONE OF THE WAYS TO DO THAT IS THROUGH THE APPLYING THROUGH RAD.
SO THAT BASICALLY TAKES YOU OUT OF PUBLIC HOUSING, INTO A SECTION EIGHT CONTRACT, AND THEN ALLOWS FOR THAT PROPERTY TO BE REPOSITIONED WITH OTHER FINANCING OPTIONS.
SO, UM, LYTEC IS LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS THE MOST, UM, I GUESS, KNOWN ONE TO USE WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, BUT ADDITIONAL DEBT POTENTIALLY COULD BE, BUT IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU STRUCTURE YOUR PROJECT.
UM, COMMISSIONER ORLANDO, THEN COMMISSIONER.
WELL, THANK YOU, MISS JAYDEN HAS REALLY GOOD REPORT.
WE'RE GETTING WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS THAT, THAT GOAL OF THIS PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
I THINK THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS, THE CONSULTANT INDICATED THAT TO GO BACK TO THE COMMISSIONER STEWARDS QUESTION, THAT THIS IS NORMALLY SELF-FUNDED BY THE ACTUAL DEVELOPER THEMSELVES AND THE CITY'S PARK PARTNERSHIP IS OBVIOUSLY THE LAND, IS THAT CORRECT? UM, CHAIRMAN HARKEY AND COMMISSION MEMBER ORLANDO THAT IS POSSIBLE IN A DEVELOPMENT STRUCTURE.
AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED A COUPLE OF THE POSSIBILITIES JUST NOW, SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GETTING THIS PLAN APPROVED TODAY.
WE GOT THE CONSULTANT ON BOARD.
THEY'LL GIVE US SOME OPTIONS AT A LATER DATE AND WHICH THEN WE COULD TAKE A HARD LOOK AT IT, BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE OPTION, IF I CAN RECALL, WERE PRETTY MUCH FUNDED BY THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENTS AND THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY, CORRECT.
IF, IF YOU'RE, IF THE DEVELOPMENT STRUCTURE WHERE THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OWNS A LAND AND LEASES AT POSSIBLY TO THE DEVELOPER, UM, THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS THE PARTNERSHIP COULD LOOK, BUT, UM, ON THE ONSET, IF YOU JUST TRANSITIONED RIGHT INTO RAD AND YOU JUST WANT MINIMAL, YOU KNOW, FINANCING, UM, THERE'S NOT THERE'S, THERE WOULDN'T BE A LOT OF ADDITIONAL DEBT, I GUESS, TO THE PROJECT, RIGHT? UM, THE DEVELOPER WOULD BRING IN THEIR EXPERIENCE AND SOMETIMES USE THEIR OWN DEVELOPERS FEE THAT WOULD BE DEFERRED FOR SOME YEARS, UM, RELATED TO HOWEVER, THE DEVOTE THE DEALS DONE.
AND I DON'T NEED AN ANSWER TODAY, BUT COULD IDA BONDS BE USED FOR THIS? YOU GOT THE ANSWER.
UH, CHAIRMAN HARTKE AND, UM, COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER MEMBER ORLANDO.
UM, EITHER 4%, WHICH IS BOND ALLOCATION, UM, OR 9%, WHICH IS A COMPETITIVE PROCESS THROUGH THE LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROGRAM, WHICH A DEVELOPER WOULD BRING THAT EXPERTISE IN THE WAYS TO REFINE, YOU KNOW, TO FINANCE, UM, OUT OF PUBLIC HOUSING, INTO A SECTION EIGHT PLATFORM FOR THESE PUBLIC HOUSING UNITS.
SO THE NEEDS ARE RISING AND THE REVENUE STREAM IS DECREASING.
SO WE NEED TO BE CREATIVE HERE.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
LOOKING FORWARD TO FUTURE DISCUSSIONS ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS.
COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER WALL.
WELL, RIGHT NOW THE PAUL GWYNNE IS ANNUALLY RENEW RENEWABLE FOR, FOR ANY AFRICANS.
WHEN THEY AT THE MEDIAN, THEN AS LONG, AS LONG AS LAYER, INCOME, DAVAO AND OTHER QUALIFICATION MEET THE STANDARD, THEY CAN RENEW THE CONTRACT.
WE WISH WE HAD EVERY YEAR, RIGHT.
AND CHAIRMAN HARKEY COMMISSION MEMBER WONG.
I DON'T KNOW IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.
IS IT REGARDS TO RESIDENTS BEING QUALIFIED FOR PUBLIC HOUSING? YES.
THE PENDANTS, THE PERSON WHO QUALIFIED ONCE THEY GET IN, BECAUSE WE HAVE LONG WAITING LISTS, ACCORDING TO YOU, WE HAVE 1000 FAMILY WAITING.
SO FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ALREADY GET AT THE MEET HERE, THEY ARE COME TO WHERE WE RENEW EVERY YEAR, AS LONG AS THEY KEEP QUALIFIED.
SO I UNDERSTAND THOSE LAWS AND REGULATION IS GOVERNED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, BUT FOR THE CITY COMMISSION FOR US, FOR PA COMMISSION HERE IN THE CITY, TOO, WE HAVE THE POWER TO APPLIED.
MAYBE SOME KIND OF PENALTY MEANS A 10 DAY, MEAN CLIMBING IS OKAY.
YOU GET IN AFTER THREE YEARS, SORRY.
REMEDIATION IS THE WORD YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A YES.
PUT IN THE NATION AFTER THREE YEARS, IF YOU STILL ARE ON THIS POLE WHERE WE ALL NEED, YOU NEED, WE ARE PRIDE.
YOU NEED TO JOIN THE WAITING LIST.
WE HAVE THIS POWER TO PRIDE, THESE KIND OF POSITION, A COMMISSION MEMBER WONG.
UM, I WILL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU TO FURTHER INVESTIGATE
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AND RESEARCH, WHETHER THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER THE REGULATORY REQUIREMENT.HUD IS ISSUING ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE RELATED TO THAT.
UM, SO IF YOU WOULD ALLOW ME, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DEFINITELY.
I JUST FEEL IT'S UNFAIR FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN WAITING LATER FOR YEAR AFTER YEAR AND SOMEBODY CAN BE LATER AND STAY LATER FOR YEAR AFTER YEAR.
IF WE CAN BE CONDENSED, THEN WE CAN HAVE NEW PEOPLE COMING IN.
SO I, MY QUESTION IS, LET ME SUMMARIZE MY QUESTION IS, DOES THIS COMMISSION HAVE THIS POWER TO APPLY LOCTITE OR PUBLISHER? YEAH.
I THINK I WOULD HAVE TO GET BACK TO RELATED TO WHETHER OR NOT WE'LL BE ABLE TO TERMINATE A LEASE THAT WE HAVE WITH THE FAMILY.
UM, IF THEY ARE OVER INCOME FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER OF YEARS.
SO I WILL HAVE GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT SECOND QUESTION.
SO MY SECOND QUESTION IS I REMEMBER YOU HAVE A, UH, A PRESENTATION ABOUT, WE HAVE TWO KINDS OF PROPERTY.
ONE IS SCATTERED THE, UH, MINGLE THAT WE S THE COMMUNITY.
ANOTHER ONE IS KIND OF ACROSS THE IT CONCENTRATES ON ONE AREA.
AND DO WE HAVE ANY PLAN TO, UH, TO KEEP UP THE SCATTER, THE OLA TO GO TO ANOTHER, TO GO TO EITHER DIRECTIONS.
SO WE HAVE TWO KINDS OF PROPERTY, ONE KIND OF PROPERTY.
SO WE HAVE HOUSE, UH, INDIVIDUAL HOUSE WITH IN COMMUNITIES, RIGHT? IT'S ONE HERE.
ANOTHER IS, WE HAVE COMES IN TRAYS.
MAYBE IT HAS 10 UNION OR 100 UNION AT ONE PLACE.
SO, UH, I REMEMBER IN YOUR PRESENTATION, UH, WE DO ASK A QUESTION.
ARE WE GOING TO, ARE WE GOING TO CHANGE OUR DIRECTION TO MAKE IT ONLY ONE CAR PROPERTY? ONLY ALL.
ARE WE GOING TO THOUGH THE WAY IT IS NOW IS DOES THE STATE HAVE ANY THE SO FAR CHAIRMAN HARTKE COMMISSION MEMBER WONG, I BELIEVE THROUGH OUR CONSULTANT WILL HELP US DEVISE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WOULD ADDRESS YOUR QUESTIONS.
WHETHER WE CONTINUE TO KEEP OUR 103 SCATTERED SITES, OR WE FOCUS MORE ON OUR MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES, WHICH ARE TOTAL OF FIVE, ONE BEING A SENIOR PROPERTY.
AND I THINK I CAN BETTER ANSWER THAT AS WE FURTHER DEVELOP OUR DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
AND AFTER WE RETAIN A DEVELOPER, CO-DEVELOPER BECAUSE ULTIMATELY FINANCIALLY WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S THE BEST DECISION FOR THE CITY, UM, TO MOVE FORWARD, WHETHER WE EITHER SELL, YOU KNOW, OUR SCATTERED SITES OR WE FOCUS ON OUR MULTIFAMILY SITES.
SO, UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T KNOW IF I KNOW THAT ANSWER THIS EVENING, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH.
UM, AS WE CONTINUE DOWN THIS ROAD, UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY TIMETABLE, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE THIS PRESENTATION TO THE COUNCIL, TO THE COMMISSION? SURE.
UM, OUR GOAL IS WITHIN THE NEXT 60 DAYS TO APPLY FOR THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE DEMONSTRATION, BY JUST APPLYING TO HUD DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE WERE APPROVED.
SO IT WILL TAKE AT LEAST UP TO 90 DAYS FOR HUD TO RESPOND TO A HOUSING AUTHORITY AS TO, UH, WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH YOUR HOUSING INVENTORY.
AND AT THAT POINT IS WHEN WE'LL KNOW WHAT THAT DEVELOPMENT, WHAT THOSE DEVELOPMENT SCENARIOS WILL LOOK LIKE.
NO, MY QUESTION IS WHEN DO YOU EXPECT TO GROW? MAY NOT COUNT RECOMMENDATION ABOUT WHICH DIRECTION WE ARE GOING TO GO.
ARE WE GOING TO PUBLISH EARLY NEXT YEAR OR DO YOU MISS YOU? YEAH.
AND AGAIN, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WILL HAVE A BOTH PACK AND CONSOLE.
WE'LL HAVE SEVERAL DECISION POINTS AS AFTER YOU MEET WITH, UH, UH, WITH, UH, WITH THE DEVELOPER ADVISOR CONCERNING THE, THE PROCESS, THE TIMING AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT, SO COUNCIL, WE, UH, WE HAVE TWO CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ON OUR P HAT.
IS THERE A MOTION OR COMMISSION? CHAIRMAN? COMMISSIONER LOPEZ.
I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY COMMISSION MEETING FOR MONDAY, AUGUST 24TH LINE ITEMS, LINE ITEMS ONE
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AND TWO.IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER? MCCLYMONDS ALL RIGHT, PLEASE PULL THE COMMISSION.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR P HACK UP TODAY.