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I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THAT MEETING TO ORDER.
AND ONCE AGAIN, CLERK, PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL.
[ Consent Agenda Items listed on the Consent Agenda may be enacted by one motion and one vote. If a discussion is required by members of the governing body, the item will be removed from the Consent Agenda for discussion and determination will be made if the item will be considered separately.]
COUNCIL, WE HAVE QUITE A FEW ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN CALLED IN HERE FOR TONIGHT.I'VE GOTTEN THEM OUT OF ORDER.
[3. Resolution No. 6042 - Chandler Flex Grant Agreement Move City Council adopt Resolution No. 6042, authorizing a Grant Agreement with the City of Phoenix for a $1 million Congressionally Directed Spending Grant for Chandler Flex. Council Focus Area(s):]
THE FIRST IS ITEM NUMBER THREE, RESOLUTION NUMBER 6042, CHANDLER FLEX GRANT AGREEMENT, UH, HAS BEEN CALLED UP FOR, UH, PRESENTATION BY JASON CRAMPTON.COMMENT FROM COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS.
I HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION FOR YOU.
TONIGHT, WE'RE EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE A $1 MILLION GRANT TO HELP ASSIST WITH THE, UH, OPERATIONS AND EXPANSION OF CHANDLER FLEX.
CHANDLER FLEX IS THE CITY'S ON-DEMAND MICROTRANSIT SERVICE.
THE RESIDENTS CAN REQUEST A RIDE USING THE CHANDLER FLEX APP OR WITH THIS PHONE NUMBER, AND OUR FLEET OF MINIVANS WILL TAKE RESIDENTS ANYWHERE THEY WOULD LIKE WITHIN THE SERVICE AREA.
UH, I DO WANNA POINT OUT THE AREAS SHOWN IN YELLOW ON THIS MAP ARE AREAS THAT WE EXPANDED INTO IN 2024, AND THE GRANT WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT GREATLY FACILITATED THIS EXPANSION.
A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE GRANT.
UH, CONGRESSMAN GREG STANTON, UH, CHAMPIONED THIS, UH, THE EFFORTS IN OBTAINING THIS $1 MILLION GRANT.
UH, FUNDS WILL BE APPLIED TO EXPENSES THAT WE INCURRED LAST FISCAL YEAR, AS WELL AS THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
THERE IS A 50% LOCAL MATCH REQUIRED, UM, WHICH MEANS THAT THE CITY WILL HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE AT LEAST AS MANY DOLLARS AS WE UTILIZE IN FEDERAL FUNDING EACH FISCAL YEAR, WHICH IS NOT A, UH, PROBLEM BECAUSE WE HAVE BUDGETED AND DO PLAN FOR, UH, MORE THAN THAT IN LOCAL EXPENSES ALREADY.
SO THERE ARE NO NEW LOCAL DOLLARS REQUIRED BY ACCEPTING THIS GRANT.
UM, JUST A FEW KEY STATS ABOUT CHANDLER FLEX.
WE'VE COMPLETED NEARLY 200,000 RIDES SINCE SERVICE BEGAN IN 2022 TO 6,300 DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS, UM, WHO PROVIDE A RIDE RATING OF 4.9 STARS OUT OF FIVE.
AND WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
I WANTED TO CALL THIS IN SO THAT, UH, THE COMMUNITY WILL KNOW WHAT EFFORTS THAT YOUR TEAM, YOU'RE PUTTING BEHIND THE FLEX.
WE SEE THOSE VANS ALL OVER THE PLACE.
THEY'RE MOVING THE STUDENTS TO SCHOOL.
THEY'RE MOVING THE ELDERLY PEOPLE.
THERE'S NOT A TIME THAT SOMEONE IN THE COMMUNITY, THEY DON'T STOP ME AND SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH BECAUSE FLEX TAKES ME TO MY DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT.
SO I WANTED TO THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE CONSTITUENTS FOR THIS EFFORT.
I KNOW WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS AND WE WANTED IT TO BE JUST A PILOT AND LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
THE ONLY THING PEOPLE ARE ASKING IS HOW MUCH MORE CAN WE ENLARGE OUR BORDERS AND MORE, MORE TERRITORIES SO PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY ENJOY IT MORE? THE QUESTION ALSO THAT I HAVE, YOU PROBABLY JUST ANSWERED IT.
WHEN WE RECEIVED THAT GRANT, UH, FROM, UH, CONGRESSMAN STANTON, AND BY THE WAY, THANK YOU TO CONGRESSMAN STANTON.
THERE'S NOT A TIME MAYOR AND COUNCIL HAVE ENGAGED HIM IN WASHINGTON DC CONCERNING CHANDLER WHETHER IT'S WATER, WHETHER NOW IT'S TRANSPORTATION.
HE ALLOWS US TO DO WHAT WE DO BEST HERE IN CHANDLER WITH THE FEDERAL DOLLARS.
THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO, NOT WHAT THEY WANT US TO DO.
WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR CONSTITUENT IS WHAT WE PUT THAT MONEY TOWARD.
SO YOU EXPLAIN, UH, THE FACT THAT THAT GRANT IS A MATCH AND THEN THE TAXPAYER'S MONEY THAT FROM THE CITY OF CHANDLER IS GOING TO LINE UP WITH IT.
CAN YOU GO MORE, A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DETAIL? I KNOW YOU HIGH LEVEL IT A LITTLE BIT.
UH, COUNCILOR ELLIS, APPRECIATE THAT.
SO, UH, YEAH, WE, WE RECEIVED $1 MILLION WITH THIS GRANT AND, AND WE CAN SPREAD IT OVER LAST FISCAL YEAR AND THIS FISCAL YEAR.
SO ALL THE EXPENSES THAT THE CITY INCURRED LAST FISCAL YEAR, WE'LL BE ABLE TO RECOUP, UM, NEARLY, NEARLY $500,000 OF THOSE EXPENSES.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, I MENTIONED THAT WE WERE ABLE TO EXPAND SERVICE IN 2024, THANKS IN LARGE PART TO THIS GRANT.
WE WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO DO THAT A LITTLE BIT EARLY, UH, BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO LEVERAGE SOME ONE-TIME REGIONAL FUNDING THAT COVERED US, THAT CARRIED US THROUGH A COUPLE OF YEARS UNTIL THIS GRANT IS IN PLACE.
UH, BUT THIS GRANT REALLY GOT US STARTED ON THOSE INITIATIVES TO, TO DO THAT EXPANSION.
SO, SO YEAH, IT'LL REIMBURSE LAST FISCAL YEAR AND THEN IT'LL, IT'LL REIMBURSE ABOUT $500,000 WORTH OF EXPENSES IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR TOO.
SO SAVING THE CITY, UH, A MILLION DOLLARS TOTAL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU GUYS DO.
PLEASE LET YOUR TEAM KNOW THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
AND THEN TO CONGRESSMAN STANTON, WE MIGHT NEED ANOTHER MILLION.
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COUNCIL MEMBER LINDO, YOU HAD A QUESTION? HI, JASON.
UM, HEY, I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU.
IN THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN PHOENIX AND CHANDLER, IT SAYS $250,000 MATCH.
IS THAT PER YEAR? IS THAT WHERE YOU GET THE HA - THE HALF MILLION DOLLARS? UH, YES.
UH, COUNCILMEMBER, THROUGH MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBER ORLANDO, UM, THE, THE $250,000 MATCH IS, IS THE, THE MINIMUM, BUT SINCE THIS IS A, UH, RETROACTIVE GRANT, WE'RE, WE'RE SEEKING REIMBURSEMENT FROM PRIOR YEARS.
THE WAY THAT WE HAD SET IT UP LAST FISCAL YEAR WAS A, UH, A 50% LOCAL MATCH.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL CONTINUE THAT THIS FISCAL YEAR.
UH, IF, IF FOR SOME REASON WE REDUCE CHANDLER FLECKS AND DON'T END UP SPENDING AS MUCH A- AS, UH, AS PLANNED AS THAT 509,000 FOR 2627, WE, WE CAN ADJUST AND, AND UTILIZE THAT LOWER RATE OF A LOCAL MATCH IF NEED BE.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE DISCONNECT WAS IN 495 VERSUS 250 IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
[5. Resolution No. 6041 - Authorizing the City to accept Land and Water Conservation Fund Grant Fund for Pima Park Playground Improvements Move City Council adopt Resolution No. 6041, authorizing the city to accept Land and Water Conservation Fund Grant funds in an amount not to exceed $750,000 for Pima Park Playground Improvements; and authorizing the city to execute the agreement and take action necessary or appropriate to implement the grant. Council Focus Area(s):]
NEXT UP, UH, CALLED IN IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE, RESOLUTION NUMBER 6041, AUTHORIZING THE CITY TO ACCEPT LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND GRANT FUND FOR PIMA PARK PLAYGROUND.THIS HAS BEEN CALLED IN BY VICE MAYOR ENCINAS.
THANK YOU, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
WHILE IT'S NOT THE MILLION DOLLARS THAT JASON BROUGHT, IT'S $750,000 TO, TOWARDS THE PIMA PARK PLAYGROUND.
NOW, SINCE PICTURE'S WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS, I GOT A LITTLE VIDEO FOR YOU.
SO REALLY FUN FACT, UH, THIS IS GONNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE LOOK AROUND.
IT'S ALL A VIDEO, UH, MAKEUP HERE, IF YOU WILL.
UH, MIRACLE PLAYGROUND HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB.
IT WAS ABOUT LAST SUMMER, END OF JUNE, THAT WE ACTUALLY WERE ABLE TO HEL - HOLD A DESIGN CHARRETTE WITH THE MEMBERS OF OUR CAMP CHALLENGE.
THAT IS OUR SPECIAL NEEDS CAMP THAT WE HAVE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
THEY HELPED US DESIGN WHAT WOULD BE A WONDERFUL PLAYGROUND.
UH, MIRACLE PLAYGROUNDS HAS BEEN ON THE FOREFRONT OF DESIGNING AND DEVELOPING AND IMPLEMENTING ADAPTIVE AND ACCESSIBLE PLAYGROUNDS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
WE'RE HONORED TO, UH, PARTNER WITH THEM ON THIS PROJECT.
AND, UH, AGAIN, LITTLE BIT OF A VISIONARY HERE.
UH, THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ELEMENTS, A LOT ON THE GROUND, WHICH WOULD BE FULLY ACCESSIBLE.
A LOT OF THE RAMPS ARE FULLY, UH, WHEELCHAIR OR OTHER U - OTHER USE, OTHER ADAPTIVE USE, UH, ACCESSIBLE.
THE SWING SETS HAVE HIGH BACK AS WELL AS THE FRONT FACING, UH, TO WHERE A, A, A PARTNER OR A CARETAKER CAN SWING WITH THEM.
YOU SAW THE SPINNER, UH, AS A WAY THAT MOLDS.
SO THOSE THAT WITH, MIGHT NOT HAVE CORE STRENGTH, UH, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE AREAS.
UH, LITTLE SQUARE DOWN THERE, THE BRIGHT ONE, YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE, THAT IS ACTUALLY A COMMUNICATIONS BOARD.
AND A COMMUNICATIONS BOARD CAN HELP US FOR THO - WITH THOSE THAT HAVE, UH, MAY NOT BE VERBAL.
SO THE DESIGN AND THE INTENT IS REALLY TO PUT A FOCUS ON OUR PIMA PARK, UH, AND THIS, UH, MATCH, THE $750,000.
WE HAVE, UM, APPROVAL THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS AND OUR CIP PROGRAM, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THE FUNDING ASPECTS.
INTERESTING FACT THAT THE LAND WATER CONSERVATION FUND ACTUALLY HELPED US BUY PIMA PARK.
I HAVE A LETTER FROM 1976, FEBRUARY, UH, THAT WE RECEIVED, UH, A WHOPPING $25,000, UH, SO WE COULD BUY PARKS BACK THEN FOR $25,000, BUT THINGS ARE, ARE WAY MORE EXPENSIVE.
BUT WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, I JUST REALLY WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS PROJECT.
I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GRANTS, WHICH IS, UH, AMAZING THAT WE'RE GETTING SOME HELP WITH THAT FUNDING THERE, BUT I DID WANT TO, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS, UH, VISUAL SO WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE THIS PARK IMPROVEMENT.
UM, I KNOW THIS PARK IS, IT'S BEEN A LONG OVERDUE, AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE AND HIGHLIGHT THE, THE NEW LOOK OF WHAT'S GONNA BE COMING HERE.
I KNOW THAT OUR STAFF, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT IMPROVEMENTS, WE'RE LOOKING TO INCREASE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS HERE.
AND WITH CHANDLER BEING ONE OF OUR CERTIFIED AUTISM CENTERS HERE, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THOSE ELEMENTS INCORPORATED, BUT I SAW THE COMMUNICATION BOARDS, I SAW THE SENSORY SPACES, AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT I HEAR FROM PARENTS ALL THE TIME AND RESIDENTS IS THEY'RE LOOKING FOR GATED PARKS.
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THERE, WHICH IS GREAT SO EVERYONE CAN FEEL SAFER THERE.SO, UM, I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS, BUT YOU ANSWERED EVERYTHING IN, IN YOUR PRESENTATION HERE TONIGHT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS LOOK FORWARD TO PIMA PARK.
AGAIN, WHEN IS IT GONNA BE POTENTIALLY READY TO GO? ARE WE LOOKING SPRING OR? EXCELLENT QUESTION, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO, AS SOON AS WE GET THE APPROVAL FOR THIS, WE TI- TIDY UP THE BUTTONS, IF YOU WILL, FOR THE, UH, BUDGET PROCESS, AND THEN WE'LL BE BEFORE YOU AGAIN WITH A CONTRACT FOR THE INSTALLATION.
SO WE MIGHT BE A COUPLE OF MONTHS FOR THAT, BUT OUR GOAL IS TO KICK IT OFF AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, MAYBE BY FALL NEXT YEAR, UH, OR SOONER IF WE CAN GET ALL THE GEARS GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
I CERTAINLY WANNA RECOGNIZE KURT HOFFMAN AND CORY POVAR FOR THEIR EXCELLENT WORK IN NAVIGATING THE GRANT PROCESS, WHICH IS FEDERAL.
UH, THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE FOLKS, I'LL HAVE TO DO THIS APPROVAL THAT ACTUALLY BUILT IN SOME EXTRA TIME FOR US, BUT, UH, DEFINITELY IS A NEED, UH, DEFINITELY BEEN PART OF THE VISIONARY PROCESS FROM OUR, OUR PARKS MASTER PLAN, AND, UH, THIS IS GONNA BE AN EXCITING PROJECT, AND IT'LL BE A LOT MORE TO COME AND A LOT MORE PUBLIC EXPOSURE FOR IT.
WE'RE EXCITED AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO IT.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK AND YOUR DEPARTMENT'S WORK.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR JOHN ON THIS ONE? SEEING NONE.
[6. Professional Services Agreement with Kimley-Horn and Associates, Inc., for the Folley Park and Pool Renovation Master Plan Design Services Move City Council award Professional Services Agreement No. PR2602.201 with Kimley-Horn and Associates, Inc., for the Folley Park and Pool Renovation Master Plan Design Services, in an amount not to exceed $159,140. Council Focus Area(s):]
ONE CALLED IN WAS FOR ME.ITEM NUMBER SIX, PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH KIMLEY-HORN & ASSOCIATES, INC.
FOR THE FOLEY PARK AND POOL RENOVATION MASTER PLAN DESIGN SERVICES.
SO LOVE TO SEE KIND OF BRIEFLY WHAT WILL THIS DO, THE ELEMENTS, AND THEN GIVE US A TIMELINE.
UH, THIS IS A, A REALLY THE KICKOFF.
SO YOU SEE THE SMALL NUMBER OF $159,000.
THIS IS JUST TO DESIGN THE MASTER PLAN.
UH, THIS REALLY HELPS US SET THE VISION.
THIS HAS HAD BEEN A LONGTIME VISIONARY PROJECT FROM OUR PARKS MASTER PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL BACK IN 2021.
UH, WE'VE NOW GOT THE DOLLARS AND CENTS PUT TOGETHER FOR US TO TAKE THIS PROJECT TO THE NEXT LEVEL, AND WE FEEL IT VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE TAKE THE STEPS TO CHECK BACK WITH THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BUILDING AND DESIGNING THE RIGHT THINGS.
UH, WE KNOW THAT IN OUR DOWNTOWN AREA, WE'VE HAD APPROXIMATELY 1,200 NEW DEVELOPMENT UNITS IN OUR DOWNTOWN.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF MULTI-FAMILY THAT ARE, ARE IN PLACE, BOTH BEING BUILT UNDERWAY, UNDER ENTITLEMENT OR IN THE WORKS.
THIS IS, THIS PROJECT WILL HELP US EXPAND AND MEET THE NEEDS FOR OUR, FOR THE AQUATIC, UH, PROGRAMMING AS WELL AS FINAL ENHANCEMENTS FOR OUR FOLEY PARK.
SO WE ENVISION A, AT THIS POINT, UH, AND CERTAINLY WANNA DO A CHECK-IN, BUT WE ENVISION A COMPETITIVE POOL, A POOL FOR LAP SWIMMERS, UH, EVERYTHING FROM, UH, MASTER SWIMMING TO OUR SWIM TEAMS. WE HAVE SUCH AN IMPACTED DEMAND FOR THE LANES, FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL SWIMMERS, AS WELL AS THE, UH, RECREATIONAL SWIM TEAMS THAT ARE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE GOOD POOLS NOW, BUT THEY'RE SIMPLY, THE DEMAND IS SO MUCH GREATER.
WE KNOW THAT BY ADDING ALL OF THESE RESIDENTIAL, UH, IN RESIDENCES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE ADDITIONAL DEMAND AS WELL.
SO THAT, AS WELL AS THE PLAY AREA, THAT PLACES, THAT PLACE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO, UH, OFFER SWIM LESSONS, TO OFFER THAT EXPOSURE TO THE KIDS.
UH, WE PARTNER EXTREMELY WELL WITH ICAN.
WE PARTNER WITH THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB.
WE PARTNER WITH OUR PARTNERS OVER IN, IN HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENTS WHERE THEY CAN WORK WITH THEIR, UH, CONSTITUENTS TO, UH, UTILIZE OUR SWIMMING POOL.
FOLEY IS THE SMALLEST OF OUR POOLS.
WE'VE GOT, IT'S A 25 YARD WITH A, UH, THREE, A COUPLE OF DIVING BOARDS, AND WE OPERATE IT FOR SIX WEEKS DURING THE SUMMER FOR PUBLIC SWIM, AND WE PUT THROUGH STILL ABOUT 1900 VISITORS THIS PAST SUMMER, UH, AND A NUMBER OF SWIM LESSONS AS WELL, SO WE'VE MAXIMIZED THAT USE.
BUT THIS VISIONING IS REALLY TO TOUCH BASE WITH THE COMMUNITY.
UH, KIMLEY-HORN, UH, ARE, ARE FABULOUS PARTNERS ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WE'VE HAD THROUGHOUT THE PARKS AND RECREATION, BUT ALSO THE CITY.
THEY KNOW US, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE THEM AS THE LEAD DESIGNERS ON THIS PROJECT.
AND JOHN, WILL IT BE THE BASIC FOOTPRINT OR IS THAT TO BE DECIDED? YOU MENTIONED I, I'VE DONE A LOT OF LAPS THERE IN THE PAST.
IS IT STILL GONNA BE THAT SIZE OR IS THAT PART OF THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION? AS LONG AS MY VISION IS NOT EXCEEDING OF THE BUDGET, SIR, I WANT A 50 METER POOL
LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S THE LAPS, AND I THINK ABOUT THIS BEING OUR DOWNTOWN POOL.
UH, THE, THE LAP POOL, THE SWIM, THE, THE, THE RECREATIONAL SWIM TEAM THAT WE HAVE LAUNCHED OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF, OF SUMMERS HAS JUST GONE THROUGH THE ROOF.
THEY REALLY ENJOY THE COMPETITIVE NATURE ON THE RECREATIONAL SIDE, UH, BUT WE ENVISION THAT AS WELL AS THE PLAY POOL.
SO LET'S THINK ABOUT SOME, LIKE AN ARROWHEAD, UH, WITH THAT LENGTH OF A POOL, UH, REALLY GIVES US THE CAPACITY.
AND THEN ALSO OVER AT, UH, MESQUITE GROVES, THE PLAY POOL, UH, THAT TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT TO WHERE
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WE HAVE THE SLIDES AND THE SHALLOW, SHALLOW ENTRY AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PLAY FEATURES WITHIN THAT POOL AREA WILL REALLY CHANGE THE DYNAMIC.AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS CHANGING AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MEET THAT DEMAND AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING EXACTLY WHAT OUR RESIDENTS CARE FOR.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR HIM? ALL RIGHT.
[10. Introduction and Tentative Adoption of Ordinance No. 5179 - Rezone, Rezamp Office #2 and #3 Move City Council introduce and tentatively adopt Ordinance No. 5179 approving PLH25-0001 Rezamp Office #2 and #3, Rezoning amendment to include Adult Daycare as a permitted use within an SF-8.5/Planned Area Development (PAD) for professional offices, located at 456 & 484 W Chandler Boulevard, generally located 1/2 mile west of the north-west corner of Chandler Boulevard and Arizona Avenue, subject to the conditions as recommended by Planning and Zoning Commission. Council Focus Area(s):]
NEXT ITEM CALLED IN IS ITEM NUMBER 10, INTRODUCTION AND TENTATIVE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 5179, REZONED REZAMP OFFICE NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER THREE.HI, HOW ARE YOU TODAY? I'M DOING WELL.
WE SPOKE EARLIER TODAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
UM, JUST THE, UH, COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS.
AGAIN, I'M, I'M FOR THIS PROJECT.
WE NEED MORE OF THESE PROJECTS.
UM, THE CAPACITY ISSUE WAS SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, THE PERMIT PROCESS AND THE COMPLIANCE.
SO WHO DOES THAT? WHO ENSURES THAT HAPPENING? THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO.
UM, THE COMPLIANCE IS THROUGH THE DIVISION OF DEVELOP- DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES WITH THE ARISTO - ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.
AND ARE THEY RE- RESPONS - AND WHAT IS THE CAPACITY? I THINK IT WAS NINE, YOU SAID? YES.
SO THERE WILL BE NINE CLIENTS AT THIS SITE MAXIMUM.
AND THEN SIX? AND, AND SIX EMPLOYEES.
AND THEN THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN ANNUAL PROCESS WITH THE STATE TO GET THEIR PERMIT AND LICENSING, THAT TYPE OF STUFF, RIGHT? CORRECT.
THANK YOU FOR FOLLOWING UP WITH ME.
I KNOW YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE ANSWERS TODAY, OTHERWISE I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN IT EARLIER, BUT THANK YOU.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? YES, MA'AM REAL QUICK.
CAN YOU RECAP ON THE POPULATION, PLEASE? THE, THE AGE GROUP OF THE POPULATION AND THE LICENSE HOLDER, WHAT KIND OF LICENSE THEY WILL BE HAVING? THEY WILL BE, UM, THE POPULATION IS FROM KIDS TO ADULTS AND IT COVERS, UM, ANYONE WITH A D- DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITY.
UM, SO THEY ARE UNDER A DDD LICENSE, WHICH IS THAT DEVELOPMENTALLY DISABLED CONTROL.
ONCE DDD IS INVOLVED, WE KNOW IT'S A GOOD THING.
SEEING NO ADDITIONAL, THANK YOU AGAIN.
[15. Preliminary Development Plan, Desert Palms Move City Council approve Preliminary Development Plan PLH25-0018 Desert Palms to allow additional retail pad buildings at an existing shopping center, subject to the conditions as recommended by Planning and Zoning Commission. Council Focus Area(s):]
ITEM CALLED IN, UH, ITEM NUMBER 15, PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, DESERT PALMS. COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO AND ALICIA PETERSON.GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UM, I CAN RUN, GIVE YOU A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION OF, UH, THE REQUEST.
SO THE CASE BEFORE YOU IS PLH250018 DESERT PALMS. UM, THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST IS FOR A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL FOR SITE LAYOUT AND BUILDING ARCHITECTURE.
UM, THIS IS APPROVAL FOR NEW PAD BUILDINGS AT AN EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER COMPRISED OF THREE QUICK SERVE, UM, RESTAURANTS OR DRIVE-THROUGHS AND A SHOP'S BUILDING ON THREE PARCELS.
UM, A LITTLE RELEVANT, UH, SITE HISTORY.
UM, THIS IS A, A SHOPPING CENTER WITH KIND OF A LONG, UH, HISTORY.
IN 1983, THE ORIGINAL ZONING WAS AMENDED TO ALLOW THE VILLAGE SHOPS.
YOU CAN SEE THOSE FRONTING ONTO WARNER ROAD, UM, KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED AS, AS THE FIVE BROWN BUILDINGS AT THAT LOCATION.
AND FOLLOWING THAT IN 1987, THE SITE WAS AMENDED, OR THE ZONING WAS AMENDED TO ALLOW, UH, GENERAL COMMERCIAL ACROSS THE CENTER, THOSE BEING THE SHOPS HIGHLIGHTED YELLOW AND BLUE.
UH, YOU CAN SEE HERE, UH, AN AERIAL SITE IMAGE FROM 2013 SHOWS THAT VILLAGE SHOPS, UH, DEVELOPMENT RIGHT THERE ALONG WARNER ROAD, AND THEN, UH, AN AERIAL FROM 2025 SHOWING WHAT THAT CENTER HAS LOOKED LIKE FOR THOSE MANY YEARS, UH, AFTER THE VILLAGE SHOPS WAS DEMOLISHED.
SO THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, AGAIN, IS PROPOSING THOSE THREE, UM, QUICK SERVE, UH, RESTAURANTS AND DRIVE-THROUGHS OUT RIGHT ALONG THE FRONT, UH, FRONTAGE, UH, FACING OUT ONTO WARNER AND, AND ON THE SCHOOL ROAD, UM, BECAUSE THAT USE WAS ALREADY, THAT WAS, UH, USE THAT HAD BEEN APPROVED PREVIOUSLY, BUT THAT PROPOSED USE IS ALLOWED BY WRIGHT.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
YEAH, I APRE - I'M SORRY, MAYOR.
YEAH, AGAIN, THIS GREAT PROJECT.
THERE'S A GREAT INVESTMENT IN THAT AREA.
THAT'S THE TYPE OF STUFF WE WANNA SEE - YES.
UH, TO REVIVE SOME OF THESE, UH, CORNERS.
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UM, THE, UM, I KNOW THERE'S DISCUSSION ABOUT TWO PAD LIMITATION.AND I THINK THERE'S EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES WHY WE REALLY DON'T NEED TO ADHERE TO THAT, PARTICULARLY IT LOOKS LIKE LESS FOOTAGE THAN IT WAS BEFORE.
THROUGH THE MAYOR, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, UM, THE PREVIOUS APPROVAL WAS FOR THOSE FIVE PAD BUILDINGS, UM, BECAUSE THIS WAS LESS THAN FIVE, UH, FOUR PROPOSED PAD BUILDINGS, IT WAS CONSIDERABLE.
AND WE'RE OKAY WITH THE EGRESS AND, UH, EGRESS AND, UH, TRAFFICKING IN THAT AREA? UH, YES, THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO.
UM, WE WORKED WITH OUR TRAFFIC DIVISION TO MAKE SURE, UM, WE DID RECEIVE A TRAFFIC STUDY, UM, AND IT HAS BEEN APPROVED, UM, BY OUR, UH, TRAFFIC DIVISION.
SO THAT'S BEEN LOOKED AT, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WILL BE NO CONFLICTS BACKING OUT ONTO THOSE ARTERIALS.
ONE FINAL COMMENT, MAYOR COUNCIL, THIS IS ANOTHER PROJECT WHERE, UM, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE MULTIFAMILY.
WE COULD LOOK AT THESE PROJECTS, MAKE THEM WORK, UH, GOOD, GOOD CLIENTELE IN THERE, PLUS IT'D BE RESTAURANTS AND OTHER AREAS TO REVITALIZE THAT, THAT CORNER.
NOT THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH FAM - MULTIFAMILY OR EVEN LIVING, BUT AGAIN, WE COULD DO OTHER THINGS WITH THESE CORNERS, SO LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE OF THESE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I, I HAVE A QUESTION.
JUST WANTED, NOW THAT WE ESTABLISHED THAT THIS IS GOOD FOR THIS AREA AND EVERYTHING, I JUST WANTED, BECAUSE I HAD A LITTLE TALK WITH MICAH THAT MORNING AFTER I TOOK A LOOK AT THE PROJECT, THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THIS WITH THE RETAIL AND EVERYTHING.
MICAH, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS, UH, QUICK SERVICE DRIVE-THROUGHS HAVE BECOME AN INCREASINGLY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR ECONOMY.
CHANGING CONSUMER SPENDING HABITS ARE REALLY DRIVING, NO PUN INTENDED, PEOPLE TO STAY IN THEIR CARS.
AND SO PROVIDING THESE ADDITIONAL OPTIONS, EACH ONE OF THESE, UM, QUICK SERVICE PADS GENERATES PRETTY SIGNIFICANT SALES TAX COLLECTION ON PEOPLE GOING TO WORK, COMING HOME FROM WORK, AND JUST GENERALLY SHOPPING IN THE AREA.
SO WITHOUT KNOWING THE, THE SPECIFIC USERS AT THE END OF THEM, THEY, THEY WILL HAVE A POSITIVE SALES TAX REVENUE FOR ONGOING IN ADDITION TO THE ONE-TIME CONSTRUCTION SALES TAX SPENDING.
UH, THANK YOU, MR. BULL, FOR BRINGING THIS PROJECT FOR YOUR CLIENTS AS WELL.
NEXT ITEM UP IS, UM, ITEM NUMBER 28.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, I THINK, WHAT WAS YOUR PLAN INTENTION FOR THIS? YEAH, I JUST WANNA MOVE IT TO ACTION FOR THURSDAY.
SO THURSDAY, WE WILL NOT HAVE A DISCUSSION THEN TONIGHT.
THURSDAY, ITEM NUMBER 28 WILL BE ON ACTION.
[34. Construction Manager at Risk (CMAR) Construction Services Agreement for the Water Reclamation Facility Improvements Phase 3 Move City Council award CMAR Construction Services Agreement No. WW2401.401, to McCarthy Building Companies, Inc., for the Water Reclamation Facility Improvements Phase 3, in an amount not to exceed $50,800,000. Council Focus Area(s):]
[35. Professional Services Agreement for the Water Reclamation Facility Improvements Phase 3 Move City Council award Professional Services Agreement No. WW2401.452, to Wilson Engineers, LLC, for the Water Reclamation Facility Improvements Phase 3 Construction Management Services, for an amount not to exceed $4,960,271.21. Council Focus Area(s):]
OKAY.ITEM NUMBER 34 AND 35, CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK, SEYMOUR, CONSTRUCTION SERVICE AGREEMENTS FOR THE WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS, PHASE THREE.
THIS HAS BEEN, QUESTION HAS BEEN BROUGHT IN FOR A REQUEST FOR PRESENTATION BY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAWKINS, ELLIS, AND ORLANDO.
COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS, UM, APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT TO US, AND THAT IS THE IMPROVEMENTS TO TWO OF OUR WATER RECLAMATION FACILITIES.
SO IN GENERAL, THIS IS A, UH, CONSIDERABLE INVESTMENT.
UM, THESE PROJECTS, UH, SUPPORT AND, AND POINT OUT THE NEED FOR UTILITY RATE INCREASES.
UH, THIS PROJECT IS, IS GOING TO FOCUS ON OUR AIRPORT WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY AS WELL AS OUR OCTIO WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY.
PRIMARILY OUR, OUR AIRPORT WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY, UH, IS, IS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE INVESTMENT IS BEING MADE.
PRIOR PHASES ONE AND TWO WERE FOCUSED ON AWARF, BUT THESE PLANTS ARE AGING AND AWARF IS, WAS BUILT IN 1998, SO IT'S APPROACHING 30 YEARS OF AGE.
AND IN TODAY'S DOLLARS, IF WE WERE TO, SAY, BUILD THIS PLANT FROM SCRATCH, IT WOULD EXCEED OVER A BILLION DOLLARS TO BUILD IT FROM NEW.
SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON WITH THIS REHAB PROJECT THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS A, UH, REPLACEMENT OF OUR DIFFUSER SYSTEM.
AND SO IF YOU CAN PAINT THE PICTURE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WATER RECLAMATION PROCESS IS VERY BIOLOGICALLY DRIVEN.
AND SO THESE DIFFUSERS ARE THE PIPES AND, AND COMPONENTS THAT PUSH AIR INTO THE TREATMENT PLANT THAT OXYGENATE AND, AND PROVIDE OXYGEN TO THE BUGS THAT, THAT DO ALL THE WORK FOR US.
SO THAT PROCESS IS BEING, UH, UH, REHAB, AS WELL AS HEADWORKS IMPROVEMENTS.
WE'RE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR ODOR SCRUBBER.
UH, WE'RE ADDING ANOTHER FILTRATION,
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A DISC FILTER.THERE ARE CURRENTLY FIVE WITHIN THE ENTIRE TREATMENT PLANT.
THAT FILTER WAS ALWAYS PLANNED.
WE'RE JUST ADDING ALL THE COMPONENTS, THE INTERNAL GUTS, IF YOU WILL, OF THAT FILTER TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN MEET OUR APP PERMIT AND, AND, AND PROVIDE HIGH PLUS, A-PLUS, UH, QUALITY RECLAIMED WATER.
SO AGAIN, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE COMPONENTS ARE, ARE VERY IMPORTANT IN THE TREATMENT PROCESS, UH, OF OUR WASTEWATER AND, AND THEY'RE AGING.
THIS PROJECT ACTUALLY SPANS OVER THREE YEARS.
SO IT, IT'S A VERY LONG PROJECT AND WE ARE WORKING ON APPROXIMATELY HALF OF THE PLANT.
SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO, AND WE'RE DOING THIS STRATEGICALLY.
IT ALLOWS US TO TAKE PORTIONS OFFLINE WHILE WE REHAB THOSE DURING LOW FLOW PERIODS, SEASONAL PERIODS OF TIME, UH, BEFORE THEY ACTUAL, BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY FAIL.
SO IN SUMMARY, THAT, THAT COVERS, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION PIECE.
UH, THE COMPANION COMPONENT, ITEM NUMBER 35, IS A CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT, WHICH IS JUST SHY OF FIVE MILLION OR, OR, UH, LIKE NINE AND THREE QUARTERS PERCENT OF THE TOTAL CONSTRUCTION COST.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S A LARGE CONTRACT VALUE, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS A 50 MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND THAT REQUIRES A, A HUGE TEAM OF, OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, INSPECTORS, AND STAFF TO HELP US MANAGE ALL THIS WORK OVER THAT THREE YEAR PERIOD OF TIME.
JUST AGAIN, TO KIND OF GIVE IT IN PERSPECTIVE, UH, THIS $5 MILLION CONTRACT, UM, ALLOWS A TEAM OF, UH, UH, OF UP TO ABOUT 34 PROFESSIONALS OVER THAT PERIOD HELP US OVERSEE THIS WORK.
AND, AND OUR CIP DIVISION ALONE IS ONLY 24 TOTAL TEAM MEMBERS.
SO THIS IS A VERY LARGE TEAM WE'RE BRINGING IN TO HELP US MANAGE ALL THIS WORK.
AND AGAIN, COMPLEXITY AND SCALE IS, IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
UH, THE, THE, THE PLAN SET, AND I, I BROUGHT SOME JUST EXHIBITS, YOU KNOW, FOR EVERY PUMP AND MOTOR AND PIECE OF PIPE THAT, THAT GOES INTO THE GROUND, WE HAVE TO REVIEW SUBMITTALS AND ENSURE THAT THEY MEET THE TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS OF THAT DESIGN.
AGAIN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE, THE GOAL IS TO ENSURE THAT THE END PRODUCT IS WHAT WE DESIGNED AND WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR, AND THAT IT MEETS THE, UH, REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS OF OUR APP TO ENSURE WE CAN STILL SEND OUT AND PROVIDE THAT RECLAIMED WATER TO ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS A THREE-YEAR PROJECT.
UM, IT'S A LARGE INVESTMENT, UH, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO CHANDLER.
WE CAN'T, UH, OPERATE ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO TREAT THIS WASTEWATER.
SO THAT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
COUNCIL MEMBER HAWKINS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, JEREMY, FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I MOSTLY JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE WITH THE LARGE DOLLAR TAG, UH, WHAT THAT MEANS, RIGHT? UM, PEOPLE SEE THE PASS THROUGH COSTS THAT COME DOWN TO THEM EVENTUALLY, BUT I FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT TO SHARE, UM, THE REASONS WHY, RIGHT? THE INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, THE CHEMICALS, EVERYTHING BOILS DOWN TO IT'S JUST THE INFLATION THAT'S HITTING EVERYBODY.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SHARED THAT MESSAGE THAT, UM, WE KEEP THE TRANSPARENCY THERE, THE COMMUNICATION OPEN, AND IF PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THINGS, THAT THEY CAN COME TO US.
THE REASON WHY I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS IS THE FIVE MILLION THAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR CONSULTANT TO THE TEAM THAT WE HIRE ACTUALLY TO DO THE WORK.
UH, MY CONCERN IS THAT, IS THERE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE ARE PAYING THEM 50 MILLION AND THEN WE'RE PAYING THEM ANOTHER FIVE MILLION.
THEY HIRED THAT TEAM TO OVERSEE THEIR OWN WORK.
UH, WHAT IS IT THAT YOU HAVE IN THERE OR YOUR TEAM, YOU JUST DON'T...
I, UH, YOU JUST TOLD ME, YOU DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO MANAGE THAT COMPANY WHILE THEY BUILD THIS THING, AND YOU WANT IT TO BE DONE FROM THE GROUND UP.
WE DON'T WANNA WAIT UNTIL SOMETHING HAPPENED IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, AND THEN THAT'S WHEN WE'RE GONNA GRAPPLE BACK.
SO HAVING A CONSULTANT GROUP ON BOARD, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT MY CONCERN IS HAVING THE SAME COMPANY PROVIDE US THAT COVERING OR THAT OVERSIGHT THAT WE NEED FOR THEM TO DO A GOOD JOB, NUMBER ONE.
I'LL JUST GIVE THEM TO YOU ALL AT ONCE AND YOU CAN ANSWER THEM.
AND THE OTHER ONE, IF NORA WAS HERE, HE WOULD BE SO HAPPY TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE GONNA CLEAN THAT SMELL BECAUSE HE'S IN HERE CONSTANTLY TELLING US, "GET THE SMELL OUT OF CHANDLER, AND THIS WILL DO IT." SO FOR THAT MATTER, I, I THINK IT'S A WORTHY CAUSE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS PROJECT.
WE'VE BEEN GETTING WATER OUT OF THIS THING EVERY SINGLE DAY.
THERE'S NOT A DAY THAT I OPENED MY FAUCET.
I DIDN'T HAVE GOOD WATER COMING OUT OF IT.
AND, AND SO THEREFORE, I WANNA COMMEND YOU FOR THAT, FOR STICKING WITH THE
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CIP, I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS ON THE, UM, PUBLIC WORKS GROUP FOR US TO GO FOR THE BOND FOR THIS, UH, TIME FOR US TO HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THIS PROJECT.UH, WE WERE THINKING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ACTUALLY HOLD IT FOR A WHILE, BUT NOW WE CAN'T BECAUSE OF THE TIMEFRAME.
SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR STICKING WITH IT.
AND WE WANNA PUSH IT THROUGH, BUT GIVE ME A PRETTY GOOD UNDERSTANDING WHY WE LETTING THIS COMPANY HIRE THEIR OWN TEAM TO OVERSIGHT THEM.
THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS.
SO, SO FOR CLARIFICATION, THE CONSTRUCTION AWARD, THE 50.8 MILLION TO MCCARTHY, THAT IS TO OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK.
THEY ARE THE COMPANY THAT'S GOING TO FACILITATE THE REHAB AND THE CONSTRUCTION WORK.
UH, THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER 35 - YEAH.
THAT, THAT, THAT CONTRACT AWARD IS TO WILSON ENGINEERS - I SEE.
WHO IS OUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TEAM.
THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND WE, WE HIRE AND SELECT BOTH OF THOSE INDIVIDUALLY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH BECAUSE SOMEHOW, SOMEWHERE THERE WAS A, A, A, UM, OVERLAP UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WAS THE SAME COMPANY WHO'S GONNA HIRE THESE PEOPLE TO OVERSEE THEIR WORK.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE PUBLICLY WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT THAT WAS NOT THE CASE.
I THINK, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS AND HAWKINS EMPHASIZE WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
UM, WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IF WE DON'T DO THIS.
WHAT HAPPENS? THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO.
IF, IF, IF WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF OUR FACILITIES AND WE DON'T MAKE THESE REPAIRS AND THESE REPLACEMENTS, THE EQUIPMENT EVENTUALLY OVER TIME WILL FAIL TO THE EXTENT THAT, THAT THE PLANT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TREAT THAT WATER.
WE'LL HAVE, UH, GRAND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS.
UH, WE WON'T MEET OUR APP, OUR AQUIFER PROTECTION PERMIT, WATER QUALITY STANDARDS.
WE WON'T BE ABLE TO RECHARGE THAT WATER INTO THE AQUIFER.
WE WON'T BE ABLE TO SEND THAT TO OUR CUSTOMERS.
SO, SO THE, THE, THE IMPACT OF NOT DOING ANYTHING, THAT PLANT WILL CONTINUE TO AGE.
THOSE COMPONENTS WILL, WILL EVENTUALLY FAIL, AND WE WON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO TREAT AND PROVIDE THAT, THAT WATER.
AND THAT WAS AN OBVIOUS QUESTION, OBVIOUSLY, FOR BOTH OF US AND FOR THE AUDIENCE WATCHING, BUT THE REALITY IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WATER RATES, UH, LATER ON THIS WEEK.
UM, THIS IS THE REASON WHY THAT WE TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THESE ISSUES, PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE, ENHANCEMENTS.
I MEAN, YOU HAVE OTHER ISSUES ON HERE TOO ABOUT JUST BUYING MATERIALS.
UM, ACTIVATED CHARCOAL, $420,000.
UM, THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE DEFENDABLE AS COUNCIL MEMBER HAWKINS INDICATED.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO, OTHERWISE WE CAN'T BE A SAFE AND HEALTHY COMMUNITY.
SO UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S COSTING A LOT OF MONEY FOR VARIOUS REASONS, MATERIAL, INFLATION, OBVIOUSLY.
BUT IF WE GET IT DONE TODAY, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO, UH, MITIGATE POTENTIAL ISSUES DOWN THE ROAD.
WITH PLANNED REHABILITATION AND REPLACEMENT, IT'S FAR CHEAPER THAN WAITING TILL IT COMPLETELY FAILS.
AND THEN WE'RE ACTING, WE'RE REACTING IN, IN AN EMERGENCY STATE.
AND I THINK THE MAYOR SAYS THIS ALL THE TIME.
IT'S A PRUDENT THING WE HAVE TO KEEP LOOKING AT.
I DON'T KNOW IF I SAY IT LIKE THAT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE I SHOULD.
SOMETHING LIKE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, MAYOR.
I'M GIVING YOU CREDIT FOR SOMETHING HERE.
I, I GUESS MY CONCERN WAS JUST KIND OF SPECIFICALLY TAGGING ON TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS SAID, A $5 MILLION SUPERVISOR ROLE FOR A $50 MILLION PROJECT.
UM, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF HOW I SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND I THINK IT'S KIND OF STICKER SHOCK TO KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA SPEND ANOTHER FIVE MILLION TO, UM, TO OVERSEE A COMPANY THAT WE'RE PAYING $50 MILLION TO, TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE DOING THE WORK.
UM, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE FIVE MILLION, WHAT TYPE OF SKILL SETS ARE WE LOOKING AT, UM, AS IT PERTAINS TO THAT? 'CAUSE THIS HAS GOTTA BE A VERY SPECIALTY TYPE LOOK OVERSEAS.
SO WHAT, TALK, TALK US THROUGH THAT PROCESS IN TERMS OF THE TYPE OF SKILL SETS THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE, THAT PROCESS OVER THERE ON THE $5 MILLION SIDE.
THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, UM, YEAH, TO, TO KIND OF ELABORATE MORE ON THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT SERVICES, UH, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS IS A TEAM OF 34 INDIVIDUALS THAT, THAT HAVE VARIOUS RESPONSIBILITIES OVER THIS PERIOD OF TIME.
WE HAVE STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS, WE HAVE ELECTRICAL ENGINEERS, WE HAVE CIVIL ENGINEERS ON THAT TEAM INVOLVED IN VARIOUS COMPONENTS.
WE, WE'VE GOT STRUCTURAL REHAB, UH, OF OUR CLARIFIERS IN OUR BASINS WHERE WE'RE REMOVING CONCRETE AND REBUILDING SOME OF THESE, THESE CONCRETE STRUCTURES.
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AND IN THE PROCESS, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF, UH, STRUCTURAL STEEL.SO WE, WITHIN OUR, OUR CLARIFIERS, WE HAVE ROTATING BRIDGES.
THESE ARE LARGE STEEL BRIDGES THAT, THAT, THAT ROTATE TWENTY FOUR SEVEN.
A LOT OF THAT, UH, WORK IS BEING REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH NEW STEEL.
AND SO HENCE THE, THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER REQUIREMENT TO OVERSEE TO MAKE SURE THAT, YES, WHAT WE'RE PAYING TO GET BUILT, BUT THEN WHAT IS ACTUALLY, UH, BUILT ON SITE MEETS THAT SPECIFICATION.
UH, ANY CHANGES THROUGHOUT THAT THREE-YEAR PERIOD, UH, TO THE ORIGINAL DESIGN HAS TO BE DOCUMENTED.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, UH, THE ENGINEERS HAVE TO DOCUMENT, STAMP, SEAL, SIGN OFF ON THOSE PLANS, SAY, "THIS IS HOW THAT FACILITY WAS BUILT," AND RESUBMIT TO THE STATE TO GET WHAT'S CALLED AN APPROVAL OF CONSTRUCTION TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE UNDER OUR PERMIT.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
AND THAT PERCENTAGE IS, IS NOT UNUSUAL.
IT'S FAIRLY STANDARD, RIGHT? MAYOR, YES.
ACTUALLY, UH, I WOULD SAY IN, IN RELATION TO THIS PROJECT IS, IT'S A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN, THAN THE AVERAGE.
AVERAGE IS, DEPENDING ON THE PROJECT SCOPE AND, AND SCALE, IS 12 TO 15% FOR CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT SERVICES.
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NUMBER 18, AGREEMENT FOR YOUNG FAMILY AND PROFESSIONAL ATTRACTION CAMPAIGN REQUESTED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO.ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT MANAGER.
THOUGHT IT WAS OFF THE HOOK FOR A SECOND, BUT I'M SO EXCITED TO BE HERE TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT THIS, UM, CAMPAIGN THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
I HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION OR WE CAN WALK THROUGH IT.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBER LANDO, WHATEVER.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
THIS CAMPAIGN IS A MULTI-CHANNEL MARKETING EFFORT AIMED AT ATTRACTING YOUNG FAMILIES AND PROFESSIONALS TO THE CITY OF CHANDLER.
WE'RE LAUNCHING THIS TO PROACTIVELY ADDRESS THE DEMOGRAPHIC TRENDS OUR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN FACING THAT ARE AFFECTING OUR LABOR FORCE, OUR CONSUMER SPENDING, MUNICIPAL REVENUES, AS WELL AS SCHOOL ENROLLMENT.
THIS CAMPAIGN IS REALLY GONNA BE FOCUSING ON ALL OF THE GREAT QUALITIES AND AMENITIES FOR LIVING HERE IN CHANDLER, THINKING OF IT AS JOB GROWTH, COMMUNITY SAFETY, FAMILY AMENITIES, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY REALLY HONING IN ON OUR HIGH ACHIEVING SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH THE FOUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT SERVICE OUR COMMUNITY TO INITIATE THIS CAMPAIGN, WHICH INCLUDE THE CHANDLER UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT, KYRINE ELEMENTARY, MESA PUBLIC SCHOOLS, AND TEMPE UNION HIGH SCHOOL DISTRICT, ALL OF WHOM HAVE CONTRIBUTED $10,000 TO INITIATE THIS MARKETING CAMPAIGN.
ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE GONE TO THE CHANDLER INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY AND RECEIVED A $150,000 GRANT TO INITIATE THIS CAMPAIGN FOR THE FIRST YEAR.
ALL OF THIS FUNDING AT THIS TIME IS A ONE-TIME ASK.
OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT STAKEHOLDERS HAVE BEEN REALLY INVOLVED IN THIS INITIATIVE FROM THE GET-GO.
UM, I BELIEVE YOU'VE ALL RECEIVED STATEMENTS OF SUPPORT, WHICH UP HERE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE CALL-OUTS FROM THAT.
THEY HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN US GETTING THIS OFF THE GROUND AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE A PART OF THIS THROUGH LAUNCH AND ACTUALLY THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT AND LAUNCH OF THIS CAMPAIGN.
TONIGHT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH EDDIE ALEXANDER, WHICH WAS A, UM, MARKETING AGENCY THAT WE FOUND THROUGH A COMPETITIVE RFP PROCESS.
WE LAUNCHED THIS RFP IN JANUARY, WHICH RECEIVED OVER, OR I GUESS 17 RFP PROPOSALS.
OUR KEY STAKEHOLDERS, WHICH ARE THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND THE CITY, RE- REVIEWED ALL THESE PROPOSALS, NARROWED IT DOWN TO THREE, INTERVIEWED THE AGENCIES AND LANDED ON EDDIE ALEXANDER.
SO TONIGHT, THE AGREEMENT IN FRONT OF YOU IS FOR A ONE-YEAR CONTRACT TERM WITH THIS AGENCY WITH THE OPTION TO RENEW FOR FOUR ONE-YEAR RENEWAL OPTIONS.
UM, UPON APPROVAL, THIS CAMPAIGN WILL LAUNCH IN NOVEMBER WITH A 10-WEEK DISCOVERY AND STRATEGY PERIOD, WHICH WILL INCLUDE STAKEHOLDER WORKSHOPS, INTERVIEWS WITH OUR KEY STAKEHOLDERS AND THEIR LEADERSHIP TEAMS, COMPETITOR BENCHMARKETING, AND THEN JUST A REGIONAL BRAND AUDIT.
THAT FOLLOWING THIS 10 WEEK, WE WILL GET A STAKEHOLDER'S INSIGHT REPORT WILL REALLY HELP US DRIVE THE CAMPAIGN METRICS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ACHIEVE WITH THIS CAMPAIGN IN THAT FIRST INITIAL YEAR.
THE PR - CAMPAIGN WILL BE TRACKED THROUGH OBVIOUSLY WEBSITE ANALYTICS IN THE BEGINNING, ADVERTISING, CONVERSIONS, INTERACTIONS WITH OUR VIDEO ENGAGEMENT, AND THEN ULTIMATELY SCHOOL DISTRICT REFERRAL DATA.
AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, WE CAN'T ADDRESS THE DEMOGRAPHIC TREND IN ONE YEAR, SO WE FORESEE THIS BEING A MULTI-YEAR CAMPAIGN, AND THAT WILL FOLD INTO OVERA - OVER-WIDE CITY COMMUNICATION STRATEGIES.
AND BECAUSE OUR CONTRIBUTIONS FROM OUR PARTNERS WERE JUST A ONE-TIME FUNDING, WE ANTICIPATE COMING BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND REQUESTING ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO CONTINUE THIS CAMPAIGN THROUGH THE CITY'S BUDGET PROCESS.
WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO GET- GETTING THIS CAMPAIGN OFF THE GROUND AND TELLING EVERYBODY WHY CHOOSE CHANDLER AND CONTINUE TO LIVE HERE AND HELP ADDRESS OUR DEMOGRAPHIC TRENDS.
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I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.I KNOW THIS IS, UH, UM, JUST STARTING OUT THE EARLY PROCESS HERE.
UM, I GUESS ONE OF THE THINGS, THE PROCESS I'M LOOKING AT IS WHAT'S THE MEASURABLE GOALS? YES.
UM, MAYORS, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, WE WILL BE IDENTIFYING THOSE MEASURABLE GOALS THROUGHOUT THAT 10 WEEK INITIAL PHASE WITH THE AGENCY.
THE AGENCY HAS NOT BEEN ENGAGED IN ANY OF THE DATA DEMOGRAPHIC TRENDINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN RESEARCHING, AND SO IT'S REALLY INSTRUMENTAL TO IDENTIFY WHAT THOSE WILL BE IN THAT 10 WEEK PHASE, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO COME BACK AND REPORT THAT AND KEEP COUNCIL INFORMED ON KIND OF WHAT WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PRIOR TO LAUNCH.
SO THE 190K YOU HAVE, THAT'S FOR THE FIVE YEARS? NO, THAT'S FOR THE FIRST INITIAL YEAR.
SO THOSE WERE JUST GRANT TIME FUNDING.
SO WE ANTICIPATE BASED OFF OF, UM, GENERAL CAMPAIGNS, MARKETING CAMPAIGNS, COMMUNITY ATTRACTION CAMPAIGNS, THE ASK MAY BE SIMILAR IN YEAR TWO AND THREE.
THIS FIRST INITIAL YEAR WILL BE DEVELOPING THOSE ASSETS TO HELP US PROMOTE WITH YEAR TWO REALLY AMPLIFYING THAT THROUGH MEDIA BUYS AND YEAR THREE LOOKING AT MAINTAINING THIS CAMPAIGN.
AND YOU'RE GONNA SET UP A COMMITTEE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO WORK TOWARDS WHATEVER THESE GOALS ARE, THE CAMPAIGNS, ET CETERA, RIGHT? CORRECT.
YEAH, WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN WORKING WITH THEM FROM DAY ONE.
SO WE'VE HAD A COMMITTEE, ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS WERE A PART OF THE RFP PROCESS, THEIR VALUED, UM, INSIGHT ON THE AGREEMENT WITH EDDIE ALEXANDER WAS AMAZING.
SO WE'RE ALL REALLY EXCITED TO GET THIS OFFICIALLY OFF THE GROUND.
CHELSEA, UM, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT CAMPAIGN TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK TOWARDS OUR FUTURE AND I, I LOVE THE COLLABORATION THAT WE HAVE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
UM, WELL, VARIOUS SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
IS THERE ANY COMPONENT OF THIS CAMPAIGN OR ANY PORTION OF THIS, UM, ANY DATA OR INVOLVEMENT THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE THROUGH OUR REAL ESTATE ASSOCIATIONS, THROUGH WE SERVE, GETTING THAT DATA? OBVIOUSLY, THE GOAL IS TO, YOU KNOW, ATTRACT PEOPLE TO COME AND LIVE HERE IN CHANDLER.
IS THERE ANYTHING ON THE PLANS FOR THAT OR IS THAT DOWN THE LINE OR...
UM, MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBER, VICE MAYOR ENCINAS, WE DO PLAN ON LEADING ON OUR REAL ESTATE STAKEHOLDERS AS KEY AMBASSADORS FOR THIS CAMPAIGN.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE SELECTED EDDIE ALEXANDER IS THEY REALLY CALLED THAT OUT IN THEIR RFP.
SO AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, WHEN PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO MOVE AND RELOCATE, THEIR FIRST PERSON THAT THEY'RE COMMUNICATING WITH IS THEIR REALTOR.
AND SO WE DO PLAN ON DOING SOME ROADSHOW, UM, PRE- PRESENTATIONS, GETTING THEM ENGAGED AND INVOLVED, AND THAT WAY THEY CAN HAVE THE INFORMATION AND HELP US INITIATE THIS CAMPAIGN AND TELL WHY THEY SHOULD CHOOSE THE CITY OF CHANDLER.
COUNCIL MEMBER POSTON, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS.
UH, I WAS KIND OF CURIOUS, DO YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC DEMOGRAPHIC THAT YOU'RE GOING AFTER OR IS THIS COMPANY GONNA HELP DEVELOP A PERSONA OR IS IT A COMBINATION OF BOTH? UM, MAYOR, THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER POSTON, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME ACTUALLY, SO BEAR WITH ME.
UH, YES, THAT IS THE INITIAL PLAN.
SO OBVIOUSLY, YOUNG PROFESSIONALS, WE'RE TARGETING PEOPLE TO COME AND FILL THE JOBS OF OUR, UM, EMPLOYMENT CORRIDORS AS WELL, BUT WE PLAN ON I - REALLY IDENTIFYING AND NARROWING OUR TARGET AUDIENCE THROUGH THAT FIRST INITIAL 10 WEEK PHASE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE AGENCY.
THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AGAIN, THIS CAMPAIGN IS REALLY TO HELP AMPLIFY WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE ALREADY DOING TO ADDRESS THEIR SCHOOL'S ENROLLMENTS.
UM, AND SO AGAIN, THIS IS REALLY PLANNING ON AMPLIFYING THOSE EFFORTS.
SO WE PLAN ON, I GUESS, FORMING THAT TOGETHER.
MS. ELSIE, I JUST DON'T WANNA LEAVE THE HEALTHCARE COMMUNITY OUT OF THIS BECAUSE I REALIZED THAT M - SO MANY YOUNG FAMILIES THAT WOULD LIKE TO MOVE HERE BECAUSE THE H - WE HAVE HOSPITALS.
YOU HAVE CHANDLER HOSPITAL, THE DIGNITY HEALTH - YEAH.
AND THEN YOU HAVE GILBERT COMMUNITY, UH, HOSPITAL RIGHT NEXT DOOR, AND PLUS ALL THESE OTHER, UH, SUB-HOSPITALS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN, IN CHANDLER.
SO IT'S THE PLAN TO ADD THEM, UH, NEXT YEAR INTO THE EQUATION AS FAR AS PARTNERS AND THINGS, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY IN THE HEALTHCARE RIGHT NOW, AND THOSE HOSPITALS, THEY ARE LOOKING FOR THESE NURSES TO COME TO WORK HERE.
THEY ARE LOOKING FOR DOCTORS TO COME HERE TO WORK.
SO IF WE PARTNER WITH THEM IN THE FUTURE, I COULD SEE WHERE THEY CAN BRING DOLLARS ALSO TO THE TABLE TO HELP US ACCOMPLISH THIS GREAT IN PARTNERSHIP, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS GREAT CAMPAIGN.
YEAH, THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS, THAT'S A GREAT, UM, POINT.
I THINK WE'LL BE LOOKING AT ANY AND ALL OPTIONS TO PARTNER WITH INDUSTRY PARTNERS, OUR KEY INDUSTRY PARTNERS TO HELP AMPLIFY THIS CAMPAIGN.
LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A MULTI-YEAR CAMPAIGN.
I FORESEE THIS REALLY CRAWLING WITH DIFFERENT LEGS SO WE CAN ATTACK DIFFERENT ISSUES AS A COMMUNITY, AND ULTIMATELY OUR COMMUNITY WILL JUST MARRY THIS MESSAGING BEYOND THAT.
I WILL SAY SO MANY, UH, STUDENTS COME HERE TO GO TO NURSING SCHOOL.
AND, AND ALSO TO OTHER HEALTHCARE SCHOOLS THAT WE HAVE HERE.
AND THEY MIGHT NOT WANNA GO BACK, AND THEY MIGHT WANNA LEAVE HERE.
AND WE NEED TO TRULY COLLABORATE WITH THOSE SCHOOLS, UNIVERSITIES, AND THEN ALSO THE HOSPITALS THEMSELVES.
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FOUNDATION.IF YOU NEED ANY HELP, I'LL CONNECT YOU.
APPRECIATE ALL THE INFORMATION.
I LOVE WHERE THIS PROGRAM IS GOING.
UM, I WAS JUST A LITTLE CURIOUS ON LANDING ON THE VENDOR.
WHAT WAS THE CRITERIA AS FAR AS, UM, WHEN CHOOSING THAT SPECIFIC VENDOR? YEAH.
THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ELL - OR HAWKINS.
UM, WE, DURING THE COMPETITIVE RFP PROCESS, WE HAD A VERY DETAILED, UM, REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS.
IT WAS A COMBINATION OF THE ACTUAL BUDGET THAT WE HAVE TO EXECUTE THIS CAMPAIGN, AS WELL AS THE QUALITY OF ADS AND THEIR HISTORY WITH WORKING WITH LIKE-MINDED ENTITIES.
UM, I THINK THE PROPOSAL THAT WE LANDED ON REALLY EXCITED ALL OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS, NOT ONLY FROM A CREATIVE PERSPECTIVE, BUT ALSO SOMEONE THAT'S NEW TO MARKET THAT COULD HELP US KIND OF CUT THROUGH WHAT'S ALREADY BEING DONE, PROPOSED NEW IDEAS.
UM, AND SO LOOKING AT ALL OF THE RFPS REALLY BUDGET BEING THE DRIVING FORCE, THIS REALLY ROSE TO THE TOP.
AND EVEN FOLLOWING OUR IN-PERSON INTERVIEWS THAT WE HAD WITH THREE OF OUR FINALIST A- AGENCIES, IT REALLY SEEMED LIKE A GREAT MATCH, AND IT'S PROVING SO.
AND I ACTUALLY EVEN HAVE, HAVEN'T EVEN HAD MY FIRST MEETING WITH THEM, BUT IT'S BEEN AWESOME SO FAR.
UM, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS KIND OF ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, LIKE, WHO ELSE ARE WE PARTNERING WITH? UM, I THINK TO THEIR POINTS, LIKE, THE MORE THAT WE CAN BRING INTO THIS CONVERSATION, THE BETTER OFF WE'LL BE.
I LOVE THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE MEASURABLES IN PLACE.
AND THEN MY ONLY OTHER REQUEST IS JUST KEEP US UPDATED - ABSOLUTELY.
SO WE CAN SEE HOW WE'RE PIVOTING AND, AND MOVING THE NEEDLE.
THE LAST ITEM CALLED IN FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ITEM
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NUMBER 39.SIR, JEREMY, YOU NEED TO COME BACK UP HERE.
UH, THIS IS FOR THE HUNT HIGHWAY WELL CALLED IN FROM COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO.
MAYOR, I GOT MY ANSWER ON THIS ONE, JEREMY.
THIS IS JUST A PART OF THE WHOLE THING WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER ABOUT, UH, OUR RATES, WHAT'S, WHAT'S, UM, DRIVING OUR RATES.
THAT WAS AN EXAMPLE I FORGOT TO TELL ABOUT, BUT WE DID TALK ABOUT THIS.
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AGENDA IS WE HAVE THREE ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION, AND TO OUR COUNCIL AND AUDIENCE, WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY DECISION HERE TONIGHT.THE QUESTION BEFORE US OF THE, AS, AS DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE REQUESTED SOMETHING IS IF...
I'M GONNA ASK THE COUNCIL MEMBER TO EXPLAIN WHAT THEY WANNA DO.
IF INDEED THEY, ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER JOINS THEM ON THIS REQUEST, WE THEN WILL REFER THIS TO STAFF TO COME BACK TO US AT A FUTURE TIME, UH, EITHER FOR AN ORDINANCE OR OTHER TYPES OF CONSIDERATIONS.
SO, UM, AND IF I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE WILL RUN IT TO OUR CITY MANAGER, TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY.
BUT THIS IS REALLY THE GOAL IS IF, IS THERE, IS THERE ENOUGH DESIRE ON COUNCIL TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE SUPPORT THIS IN ORDER TO HAVE STAFF DO FURTHER RESEARCH AND BRING US BACK AN ORDINANCE OR, OR SOMETHING ELSE AT THAT POINT? SO LET ME...
UH, I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S PRESENTATIONS INVOLVED WITH THIS SINCE WE'VE ALL BEEN PRIVY TO THAT, BUT HANG ON AND LET ME SEE.
THE FIRST IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE DIRECTION REGARDING AMENDMENT OPTIONS FOR CHANDLER MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER EIGHT THROUGH 10, THE EXTENSION OF RUNWAY, PHYSICAL LIMITATIONS.
LET ME TURN THIS SINCE, AGAIN, UH, WE'VE ALL HAD OPPORTUNITY, I THINK, TO HAVE AN EXTENSIVE PRESENTATION, ALMOST ALL.
UM, BUT COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS, UH, TELL US YOUR INTENTION, YOUR DESIRE, WHERE DO YOU WANNA GO WITH THIS? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
THANK YOU, MR. RYAN, FOR BEING HERE WITH US THIS EVENING.
MAYOR, WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD, WHERE WE WERE IN THE ROOM AND THE PRESENTATION WAS MADE, AND BASICALLY WE HAD, WE WERE AT A, AT THE DRAW WHERE THREE OF US WANTED TO GIVE DIRECTION, AND THREE OF US PRETTY MUCH WERE LOOKING AT NOT GIVING DIRECTION.
SO WE, WE DIDN'T HAVE, UH, A FOURTH PERSON TO KIND OF BREAK THE TIE.
IN THE PROCE - IN THE UNDERSTANDING SINCE THEN THAT I HAVE SPOKEN WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS AND THE REST OF, UH, THE COUNCIL WHO WOULD LIKE TO GIVE DIRECTION, AND I'M STILL GETTING A YES.
SO TONIGHT I WANTED TO BRING MR. RAVES HERE SO TO PUBLICLY...
I KNOW WE HAD AN OPEN PUBLIC MEETING AND PEOPLE COULD HAVE BEEN THERE.
SO I - COUNCIL MEMBER, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE COMPLETE PRESENTATION.
I'M NOT ASKING FOR A COMPLETE TERM PRESENTATION, MAYOR.
IF YOU WAITED FOR ME, YOU COULD'VE HEARD ME SAY.
THAT'S WHAT I TELL THE KIDS ALL THE TIME, WAIT UNTIL I'M FINISHED AND YOU WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO ASK YOU.
SO WHAT I'M SAYING TONIGHT IS THE FACT THAT I JUST WANTED YOU TO REVISIT WITH US THE TWO OPTIONS THAT WE HAD IN THE ROOM WHEN WE HAD TO GIVE THE DIRECTIONS.
AND QUICKLY, IF YOU MAY ADD, WHAT ARE THE
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BENEFITS FOR US TO ACTUALLY USE EITHER ONE OF THOSE AND WHAT IS THE NEGATIVE BEHIND NOT DOING? VERY QUICKLY, DO THAT AS A WHOLE FOR US SO THAT THE PUBLIC, UH, IF THEY WANNA GO BACK AND REVISIT THAT, THEY'LL HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.SO RYAN, COULD YOU DO THIS IN ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE MINUTES? THE GOAL AGAIN IS TO, IS THERE ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WILL AGREE WITH YOU THAT WE WILL FURTHER STUDY AND BRING BACK TO US IN THE FUTURE? AND AT THIS POINT, I THINK I HAVE FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE AGREED WITH ME.
THEN IF ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER IS IN AGREEMENT, WE CAN GIVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION AND THEN THIS WILL COME UP AS A FUTURE CONSIDERATION, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS, AT YOUR REQUEST, WE'LL GIVE A VERY BRIEF HIGH LEVEL REVISIT OF THE PRESENTATION FROM SEPTEMBER 17TH.
UM, THE TONIGHT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ONE OF TWO OPTIONS THAT THE COMMUNITY IMPACT STUDY, UH, RESULTED IN RECOMMENDING FOR THE RUNWAY EXTENSION.
ONE WAS KEEP THE ORDINANCE, NAMELY 388, UM, AND AS WRITTEN AND MOVE TOWARDS A BOND ELECTION.
OPTION TWO WAS AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO REMOVE THE BOND ELECTION REQUIREMENT, BUT KEEP PROTECTIONS THAT RESIDENTS VALUED.
UM, NOW, WHAT THE RUNWAY EXTENSION MEANS REQUIRES A LITTLE CONTEXT FOR THOSE WHO WEREN'T THERE AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE ROOM.
A RUNWAY EXTENSION AT THE AIRPORT REQUIRES ZERO, UH, PROPERTY B, UH, ACQUIRED.
WE DON'T CHANGE THE TYPE OF AIRCRAFT THAT CAN OPERATE AT THE AIRPORT.
90 PLUS PERCENT OF THE PROJECT'S COST WILL BE COVERED BY THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION AS WELL AS SHARE OF VALUES, UH, WITH ADOT GRANTS.
UM, AND THE ONLY THING STOPPING US FROM PRO - FROM PROGRESSING TOWARDS RUNWAY EXTENSION IS, UH, ORDINANCE 388, WHICH WE'RE ASKING FOR DIRECTION ON THIS EVENING.
THE EXTENSION, UM, CANNOT BE LONGER THAN 680 FEET.
THAT WILL TAKE US TO A TOTAL LENGTH ON THE SOUTH RUNWAY ONLY OF 5,550 FEET.
UM, THE REASON FOR THAT IS THE AIR IN SUMMER IS WARM.
WE NEED THAT FOR, UM, THE USERS THAT ARE ALREADY AT OUR AIRPORT SO THAT THEY MAY USE THE AIRPORT YEAR ROUND RATHER THAN SKIPPING USING ITS, UH, THE BENEFITS OF THE AIRPORT THE FOUR MONTHS OF THE SUMMER.
NOW, WHAT THE EXTENSION DOES AND DOES NOT DO, IT ALLOWS AIRCRAFT, AGAIN, THAT ARE CURRENTLY HERE TO USE US YEAR ROUND.
UM, IT KEEPS BUSINESSES AND TENANTS, AND I WOULD ARGUE THE AIRPORT COMPETITIVE, UH, IN THE CURRENT AVIATION MARKET.
UM, IT DOES SHIFT THE RUNWAY PROTECTION ZONE A BIT TO THE NORTHEAST, UM, ON AIRPORT PROPERTY.
WHAT IT DOES NOT DO IS BRING LARGE AIRLINES, PASSENGER TERMINALS, UM, FIREFIGHTING REQUIREMENTS TO BE ON AIRPORT.
UM, IT DOES NOT ALLOW HEAVIER AIRCRAFT TO LAND HERE, UM, AND IT DOESN'T ADD FLIGHT PATHS OR INTRODUCE NEW FLIGHT PATTERNS OVER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE THEM.
UM, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT DOES NOT CHANGE OUR ROLE.
NOW, THE NOISE CONTOURS DO CHANGE A BIT.
AS YOU'LL SEE, THE TOP, UH, NOISE CONTOUR, THE OUTSIDE OF THE RED CONTOURS, THE 65 DECIBEL LINE, WHICH THE AIR - THE FAA TERMS AS SIGNIFICANT NOISE IMPACT.
UH, THAT'S OUR CURRENT CONFIGURATION ON EXISTING.
THE EXTENDED SHOWS THAT WE DO EXTEND INTO THE INDUSTRIAL SPACE TO OUR NORTHEAST, BUT WE ALSO SEE THAT NOISE LINE RECEDE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL ALONG QUEEN CREEK A BIT.
UM, 95% OF THE COST IS FOOTED BY THE FAA AND ADOT AERONAUTICS.
UM, THE PO - TOTAL PROJECT COST IS JUST OVER $7.1 MILLION.
OUR SHARE WOULD ONLY BE 4.47% OF THAT.
WHAT THE AIRPORT CONTRIBUTES TODAY IS ROUGHLY THIS, $150 MILLION OF ECONOMIC IMPACT.
A GROWTH SCENARIO, NOT A PROJECTION, IS THAT WITH THE EXTENSION, WE COULD SEE AS MUCH AS $220 MILLION OF ECONOMIC IMPACT.
IT DOES MAKE US MORE COMPETITIVE IN THE MARKET FOR DEVELOPMENT AND OPERATIONS AND REVENUE GENERATION.
WHAT WAITING COSTS US IS THE SUMMER STABILITY, UH, CONTINUES TO BE AN ISSUE AT THE AIRPORT.
AGAIN, THE HOT TEMPERATURES HERE FOUR MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR, WE HAVE A LOT OF BASE BUSINESSES THAT ARE CURRENTLY AT THE AIRPORT AND A LOT OF BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO BE AT THE AIRPORT THAT ARE CURRENTLY LIMITED BECAUSE OF THE RUNWAY LENGTH.
AND OF COURSE, CONSTRUCTION ESCALATION, THE LONGER WE WAIT TO PURSUE A PROJECT SUCH AS THIS, WE'RE SEEING ROUGHLY 3.6%, UM, ESCALATION COSTS ANNUALLY.
UM, WHAT ORDINANCE 3888 PROTECTS IS THE RUNWAY EXTENSION REQUIRES PUBLIC INPUT.
UM, IT CAPS THE RUNWAY AT 5,700 FEET AND IT SETS MAXIMUM WEIGHT FOR THE AIR - FOR THE AIRPORT.
UM, WHAT IT RESTRICTS US FROM DOING IS PURSUING FAA FUNDING FOR SUCH CAPITAL EXPANSION AS A RUNWAY EXTENSION, UM, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A BOND ELECTION.
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THESE PROJECTS.UM, WE ARE THE ONLY CITY IN THE STATE, UH, WITH SUCH A REQUIREMENT.
THE NORMAL PROCESS IS TO HAVE IT APPROVED THROUGH CITY COUNCIL AND CAPITAL PROJECTS AND THEN PURSUE FAA, UH, APPROVALS AND STUDIES.
UM, I WILL SAY THAT THE BASELINE COST RIGHT NOW, OUR SHARE IS $319,000 OF THE PROJECT.
IF WE PURSUE A BOND ELECTION, THE BOND ELECTION, I AM TOLD CAN COST THE CITY AS MUCH AS $500,000, AND THEN ESCALATION OF COST WITH INFLATION ENSUES AND EVERY YEAR WE WAIT.
NOW, THE TWO OPTIONS SIDE BY SIDE ARE THIS, UM, KEEP THE ORDINANCE AS WRITTEN AND MOVE TO A BOND ELECTION, AND EVERYTHING STAYS THE SAME, AND EVERY CURRENT ORDINANCE LIMIT STAYS IN PLACE IN A BALLOT MEASURE, PLUS THE FEDERAL PROCESS, PROCESS FOLLOWS.
OPTION TWO IS TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE, BUT COUNCIL MAY PUT OTHER PROTECTIONS IN THAT SUCH AS A LENGTH CAP, WHICH, AGAIN, WE'RE ONLY ASKING FOR 5,550 FEET, NOT 5,700 AS THE CURRENT ORDINANCE READS.
UM, WE CAN PUT A FOOTPRINT LIMIT ON THE AIRPORT, I.E.
THE AIRPORT CANNOT EXPAND BEYOND ITS CURRENT PROPERTY LINES, UM, AND ALL AIRCRAFT WEIGHT AND WINGSPAN LIMITS STAY THE SAME.
UM, WHAT I WILL EMPHASIZE HERE TONIGHT, AS I EMPHASIZED WITH YOU LAST MONTH, THIS IS A FOUR TO FIVE YEAR PROCESS, UM, WITH EITHER DIRECTION WE GO.
SO EACH, UM, YEAR YOU SEE ON THIS TIMELINE IS REQUIRED AND MANDATED BY THE FAA TO EXTEND A RUNWAY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OUR ORDINANCE ACTION.
AND AT EVERY STAGE OF THIS, OUTSIDE OF CONSTRUCTION, THERE IS REQUIRED FEDERALLY MANDATED PUBLIC INPUT.
UM, WITH THAT, I'LL TRY AND KEEP IT AS SHORT AS I CAN, MAYOR.
UM, THE OPTIONS BEFORE US THAT WE'RE REQUESTING DIRECTION ON ARE KEEP THE ORDINANCE AS WRITTEN AND MOVE TOWARDS A BOND ELECTION OR ENHANCE AND AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO MOVE TOWARDS RUNWAY CONSTRUCTION, AND WE AWAIT COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
SO IS THERE SOMEONE THAT WOULD JOIN COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS IN EXPLORING THESE OPTIONS AND BRINGING SOMETHING BACK TO US? MAYOR? LET ME ASK A QUESTION FIRST, UM, YES, SIR.
WELL, I'LL, I'LL JOIN IT, BUT THEN WE'LL...
SO WE HAVE TWO, BUT WHAT IS IT? COUNCIL MEMBER - YEAH.
SO, UM, THE BOND ELECTION, TO GO BACK IN HISTORY, WAS JUST A MECHANISM TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT.
AS WE SPOKE ABOUT LAST WEEK, COUNCIL COULD OPTION THREE, IT MIGHT BE MORE, BUT OPTION THREE WAS I'M, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, WAS TO REMOVE THE BOND ELECTION AND JUST GO TO A PUBLIC VOTE.
'CAUSE AGAIN, THIS WAS ALL BASED UPON A PUBLIC VOTE.
UM, SO LOOKING AT THIS, AND IN MY MIND, I'D RATHER GO DOWN THAT PATH VERSUS JUST CHANGING AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.
WE COULD STILL GET A ELECTION, WE COULD STILL GET THE VOTES, THE COMMITMENT THAT WE HAD TO THE VOTERS, UM...
I MEAN, LET'S BE, LET'S GO BACK A STEP.
THE REASON WHY WE HAD THESE ORDINANCES IN PLACE WAS BASED UPON A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE.
IN 1989, THE 2000 AND WHATEVER THE OTHER THREE WERE, YOU, YOU CROSSED THEM.
SO IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF EXTENDING THE RUNWAY.
I, EVEN THE EMAILS I RECEIVED, ALL OF US RECEIVED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS AND DISCUSSION POINTS, FOLKS ARE NOT AGAINST THE EXTENSION RUNWAY.
THEY FEEL LIKE THE COUNCIL WOULD BE USURPING, ACCORDING TO THEIR MEMOS, USURPING OUR AUTHORITY.
SO I DON'T WANNA LIMIT OURSELVES TO JUST ONE OR TWO.
I WANNA ADD MORE VALUE TO THIS BY SAYING, "LET'S GO TO THE VOTERS AND LET'S GO, UH, LET'S REMOVE THE BOND A- ASPECT OF THIS." MAYOR.
SO I ALREADY ASKED THAT, BUT GO AHEAD.
I ALREADY DID ASK THAT WE SEND THIS TO STAFF TO EXPLORE AND WHAT OTHER OPTIONS THAT CAN COME BACK THAT WE CAN VOTE ON.
SO, SO IT MAY BE VERY CLEAR, UH, WHAT MY INTENT WAS TONIGHT, UH, WHEN I ASKED FOR THIS TO COME BACK AND THEN FOR US TO LOOK MORE CLOSELY AT, UH, UH, OPTION TWO, WHICH IS WHERE I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY NOT ONLY G - BE MORE EFFICIENT, BUT LESS COSTLY, ESPECIALLY VERY TRANSPARENT.
THIS WILL NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WE WILL BE DOING IN THE BACK, BEHIND THE BACKGROUND SECRECY, A- AND ALSO RESPECT THE RESIDENTS AND THE TAXPAYERS' MONEY, VERY MUCH SO WITH THIS OPTION.
THE, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A FOUR YEAR...
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UH, WITH THE FAA, OVERSEEING THIS WHOLE PROCESS, ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY, MAKING SURE THAT THOSE WHO ARE EITHER FOR OR AGAINST HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO THE TABLE AND LET US KNOW.OH, IT'S STRICTLY, LITERALLY TYING COUNCIL'S HAND IN A WAY, LETTING US KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT MAKING THIS DECISION TO USURP THE PEOPLE'S VOTE.
WHAT WE ARE SAYING TO THE PEOPLE AT THIS POINT, YOU HAVE TRULY ELECTED US IN THIS YEAR, IN THIS 2026, TO MAKE DECISION THAT'S GOING TO MOVE THIS CITY FORWARD, NOT WAITING UNTIL 1998 FOR US TO CONTINUE TO MAKE DECISION WITH THOSE TIMELINE, BUT IN 2026, REALIZING THE FACT THAT WITH A 2021 MILLION DOLLARS SITTING AT THE AIRPORT TO ENGAGE WITH, 997 JOBS WAITING FOR US TO EMPLOY PEOPLE, I HAVE BUSINESS OWNERS SITTING AT THE AIRPORT, CANNOT PARK THEIR BUSINESS.
EVERY SIX MONTHS, THEY HAVE TO TAKE PEOPLE OFF JOBS, LITERALLY FIRE PEOPLE, AND REHIRE THEM IN SIX MONTHS IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE.
THESE ARE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR BUSINESSES WHO ARE BRINGING TAX MONEY INTO THE CITY FOR US TO MOVE THE CITY FORWARD.
NOW WE ARE TELLING THEM WE DON'T EVEN WANNA START A PROCESS UNTIL WE GET A YES FROM A, A, A $500,000 THAT WE HAVE TO PUT FOR AN ELECTION.
WHETHER IT'S A BOND ELECTION OR NOT, ELECTION COSTS MONEY.
AND SO I'M LOOKING INTO HOW CAN WE DO THIS VERY EFFICIENTLY, STILL KEEP THE PEOPLE VERY INVOLVED BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT ANYTHING THAT THE PEOPLE OF CHANDLER DOES NOT WANT.
BUT AT THIS POINT, I'M GETTING MORE PEOPLE TELLING ME THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PROCESS DONE VERSUS THOSE, A FEW THAT I HAVE SAID.
I ONLY RECEIVED TWO EMAIL THAT WAS AGAINST, TWO EMAILS THAT I RECEIVED AND THEY WERE ADDRESSED PERSONALLY TO ME BECAUSE I WAS THE ONE WHO THEY HEARD WAS GONNA PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
SO WHETHER THEY, WHOEVER WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, TRULY SAY NO TO THIS, THEY COULD HAVE COME HERE TONIGHT AND TELL ME IN FRONT OF ME OR KEEP SENDING ME EMAIL.
BUT THE FACT IS I HAVE TWO PEOPLE TONIGHT WHO WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THIS THING FORWARD AND I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, MAYOR.
I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A DISCUSSION BETWEEN TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SO AGAIN, STEPH, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO COME BACK TO US WITH OPTIONS FOR THIS AND THEN MEET WITH US AND WE WILL, AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING, EITHER AMEND AN A- AMENDMENT.
EITHER WAY, WE'LL HAVE TO AMEND AN AMENDMENT.
MAYOR, WHATEVER THAT IS, I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.
AND NOW I'M GONNA GO ON TO THE NEXT DISCUSSION ITEM.
MAYOR, EXCUSE ME, POINT ORDER HERE.
WE, EXCUSE ME, MAYOR NOT RECOGNIZED THIS RIGHT NOW.
I WOULD ASK YOU TO RECOGNIZE ME BECAUSE THIS IS OUT OF CHARACTER.
WE HAD A MEETING - THIS IS OUT OF CHARACTER.
I'M GONNA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REST OF THE COUNCIL FEELS ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
WHAT MATTERS - ASKING COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO IS TWO PEOPLE AS ALL IS REQUIRED TO HAVE STAFF BRING THIS BACK.
IS THERE ENOUGH OF A WILL TO BRING THIS TO A FUTURE ITEM? NO, THE WAY - AND WE'VE GOT THAT.
NO, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE WAY WE DID THIS LAST TIME.
IN FACT, WE HAD COUNCIL MEMBER POSTON WHO BROUGHT UP AN ISSUE.
WE HAD THREE PEOPLE THAT SAID MOVE FORWARD AND WE DIDN'T MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE YOU ASKED THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.
I'M JUST GOING BY RIGHT THE PRECEDENT SET.
WE ASKED THE REST OF THE COUNCIL AND THERE WAS ENOUGH COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT SAID, "DON'T MOVE FORWARD.
GO WORK WITH STAFF ON THIS." SO WE CHANGED THE, THE MATRIX HERE.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR, UH, MY PERSONAL OPINION, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE TO SAY - SURE.
SO THAT STAFF IS NOT SPENDING DAYS, HOURS AND TIME AND COME BACK AND SAY, "THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANTED." OKAY.
HOPE THAT WE WOULD HO- HOPE TO HAVE THE REST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS BE RECOGNIZED WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE.
COUNCIL MEMBER HAWKINS, WOULD YOU SUPPORT, UH, FURTHER EXPLORATION INTO THIS AND THE CHANGE OF A POSSIBLE ORDINANCE, UM, BASED UPON OUR LAST...
I'M JUST GONNA GO DOWN THE ROW HERE.
WHAT WOULD BE YOUR, YOUR THOUGHTS? SO I COULD SEE BOTH, BOTH SIDES OF THIS.
UM, I COULD SEE BOTH SIDES OF THIS ISSUE.
UM, I COULD SEE GOING EITHER WAY ON THIS RIGHT NOW.
UM, I 100% SUPPORT THE EXTENSION.
HOWEVER, I BELIEVE IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO DO THE VOTE.
HOWEVER, I DO HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT.
UM, FOR CITY ATTORNEY, COULD YOU PLEASE TELL ME WHAT IS THE EARLIEST SPECIAL ELECTION DATE THAT WE
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COULD ANTICIPATE IF IT WAS TO GO THAT WAY? SO IF YOU WERE TO HAVE A, A, A GENERAL ELECTION, THE EARLIEST DATE THAT YOU COULD HAVE A, A GENERAL VOTER ELECTION, NOT A BOND ELECTION, BUT A GENERAL VOTER ELECTION WOULD BE MAY OF 27.YOU, BECAUSE THE, YOU CAN HAVE A GENERAL VOTER ELECTION ON ANY OF THE FOUR ELECTION DATES, UM, BUT YOU'RE TOO LATE TO GET IT ON THE MARCH ELECTION.
THE DEADLINES TO GET IT ON THE MARCH ELECTION HAVE ALREADY PASSED.
SO THE EARLIEST WOULD BE MAY OF 27.
AND THEN THE FIRST ELECTION, IF IT WAS A BOND ELECTION, WOULD BE NOVEMBER BECAUSE YOU CAN ONLY HAVE A BOND ELECTION IN NOVEMBER.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD REQUEST IF THIS WAS TO GO TO A, UH, MAY BALLOT IS WHAT KIND OF WRITTEN PLAN COULD WE EXPECT FROM OUR SIDE? HOW WOULD WE BE GETTING OUR MESSAGING OUT? WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? I KNOW RYAN TOUCHED ON A FEW POINTS THAT THE FAA, UM, HAS SOME MANDATED STUFF.
HOWEVER, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD PROVIDE TO US ON WHAT THE EXPECTATION IS, WHAT'S OUR STANDARDS, AND HOW ARE WE GETTING THIS MESSAGE OUT? SO IF IT WAS A GENERAL VOTER ELECTION AND NOT A BOND ELECTION, UM, IT WOULD JUST BE, UM, YOU WOULD BE PASSING AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE CODE AND IT WOULD JUST BE A GENERAL, THIS, UH, THE QUALIFIED ELECTORS ARE, UM, ASKED TO AMEND THE CODE, UH, PURSUANT TO THIS ORDINANCE.
AND THERE WOULD BE A GENERAL QUESTION PRESENTED TO THE VOTERS OF THIS QUALIFIED ELECTORS OF THE CITY OF CHANDLER, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER CODE AMENDMENT.
UM, IF IT WAS A BOND ELECTION, UM, YOU WOULD PRESENT IT IN THE NORMAL COURSE AS ANY BOND ELECTION QUESTION.
UM, AND I MEAN, IT WOULD RUN THE COURSE OF ANY NORMAL BOND ELECTION.
THERE WOULD BE A PUBLICITY PAMPHLET, THERE WOULD BE PROS, CONS, UM, AND THAT'S HOW THAT WOULD RUN.
AND CITY MANAGER, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS COULD PUT TOGETHER, UM, AS A PLAN OF ACTION THAT WE COULD SEE? MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER HAWKINS, WE COULD PUT WITHIN WHATEVER RECOMMENDED ORDINANCE THAT WE PUT FORWARD TO YOU AND YOU GUYS CHOSEN MANY SAFEGUARDS TO ENSURE THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE GETTING EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE TONIGHT.
AS FAR AS PROMOTING THAT ORDINANCE, I HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.
ONCE IT GOES TO A VOTE, THEN I'M NOT, I'M ALLOWED TO GIVE THE FACTS.
I'M NOT ALLOWED TO SUGGEST HOW THAT VOTE PLAYS OUT.
BUT WE COULD DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT THAT ORDINANCE PROVIDES ALL OF THE ASPECTS OF THE ENHANCED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS THAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING THAT MOST OF COUNCIL WAS SUPPORTIVE.
MAYOR, MAY I PROVIDE INFORMATION ON THAT MAY 18 ELECTION? PLEASE.
BECAUSE THE DEADLINE TO NOTIFY THE COUNTY ABOUT ANY BALLOT MEASURES WOULD BE NOVEMBER 19.
SO THAT COMES UP VERY QUICKLY.
AND THEN THE BALLOT LANGUAGE, UM, IS ALSO DUE TO THEM BY THAT TIME.
AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO PUBLISH THE CALL OF THE ELECTION IN DECEMBER.
SO FOR THE MAY 18, ALL THOSE DEADLINES COME UP VERY QUICKLY.
AND, AND TO BE CLEAR, WHAT I ASK FOR IS FOR THEM TO COME BACK AND EXPLORE A CHANGE OF THIS, BECAUSE ANYTHING WE DO IS GOING TO TAKE A CHANGE OF AN ORDINANCE.
IF WE, IF, OR AN ORDINANCE OF SOME KIND, WHETHER WE GO TO ANY ELECTION, IT'S GONNA TAKE AN ORDINANCE.
IF WE MOVE THIS FROM A BOND TO A GENERAL, THAT IS WHAT I'VE ASKED STAFF TO, OR WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK STAFF TO DO IN THIS CASE.
UM, AND I GOT MY ANSWER, SO I'M GOOD.
I GUESS I DO NOT NEED STAFF TO BRING FORWARD ANYTHING RIGHT NOW.
SO YOU DO NOT NEED STAFF TO BRING ANYTHING FORWARD? NO.
UM, I GUESS HELP ME WORK THROUGH THIS.
IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT THE MAY BALLOT, WE WOULD STILL NEED THEM TO COME BACK THURSDAY WITH INFORMATION.
UM, YES, SO THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST IS TO HAVE THEM MOVE FORWARD WITH INFORMATION.
SO TO EXPLORE AND SEE IS WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING, THE POSSIBILITY OF A GENERAL ELECTION.
AND TO DO THAT WITH HASTE - ABSOLUTELY.
UM, I, UM, I THINK THAT THERE'S SOMETHING I WANNA CLARIFY HERE.
UH, WHEN THE COUNCIL MAKES AN ORDINANCE, THAT'S OUR DECISION.
UM, THAT'S NOT THE WILL OF THE VOTERS.
UM, IT MAY BE INFLUENCED BY THE WILL OF THE VOTERS, BUT IT'S OUR DECISION UP HERE.
SO WE NEVER REALLY, WE NEVER WENT TO A VOTE OUT IN THE PUBLIC TO SAY, "THIS IS THE LAW OF THE LAND." WE, WE NEVER DID THAT.
SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE MAKE ORDINANCES UP HERE, THAT'S
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THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL AND THE PEOPLE ARE THE ADVOCATE OF WHAT THEY HEARD AT THAT TIME.I WASN'T HERE DURING THE TIME THAT THESE THINGS WERE WRITTEN AND, AND TODAY I HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION, UM, TO, UH, TO LOOK AT WHAT TODAY LOOK LIKE.
AND, AND I WOULD LIKE TODAY, I THINK THE AIRPORT HAS A LOT OF, UH, OPPORTUNITY THERE.
I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO LOOK FURTHER INTO WHAT IT CAN BE FOR THE FUTURE, UM, AND BRING BACK INFORMATION, INCLUDING THE, THE, THE BOND INFORMATION, WHATEVER OPTIONS YOU WANNA GIVE US, BRING THAT BACK TO US.
WE SHOULD ALL SIT AND LOOK AT THAT, UM, AND, AND, AND MOVE FORWARD THAT WAY, BECAUSE I DO THINK THERE'S SOME AREAS OF OPPORTUNITY, BUT I DO THINK THERE'S A CRITICAL CONVERSATION THAT PROBABLY NEEDS TO HAVE WITH THE COMMUNITY.
NOT ONE OR TWO PERSONS SHOULD CONTROL THE OUTCOME, NOT FIVE OR 10.
IT SHOULD BE A, A ROBUST CONVERSATION AND WITH A FIVE YEAR PROCESS, UM, THAT C - THAT CREATES A CONVERSATION AND, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF OPTIONS.
SO I WOULD TELL THE COMMUNITY WHETHER YOU ARE, WHETHER YOU ARE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY SEEING WHAT THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY COULD BE FOR THIS, OR WHETHER YOU SEE THIS AS A, A STOPPING POINT.
I THINK AT BEST, THE COUNCIL TODAY OWE YOU ALL THE OPTIONS FIRST.
AND THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GONNA GET ALL THE OPTIONS IS BY GETTING STAFF TO GO OUT AND DO THE WORK.
GO OUT THERE AND DO THE WORK AND BRING BACK ALL THE OPTIONS TO US, UM, FOR ANOTHER DISCUSSION.
SO I DO SUPPORT, UM, I DO SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD WITH STAFF, UM, COMING BACK TO GIVE US OPTIONS.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHERE I'M GONNA LAND MY PLANE AT THERE.
I THOUGH, I THOUGHT YOU, YOUR VOICE WAS HEARD.
I WOULD, UM, ECHO COUNCIL MEMBER HAWKINS' THOUGH PROCESS.
IF THERE'S MOVE FORWARD, UH, TO WORK ON GETTING A, A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE.
UH, AGAIN, THIS WAS THE VOTE OF THE PEOPLE.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE VOTE OF THE PEOPLE IN MY MIND FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS NOW.
UM, THE ORDINANCES WERE CREATED BECAUSE OF THE VOTE.
YEAH, WE SAT UP HERE AND VOTED 7-0, BUT IT WAS THE CUDGEL THAT BROUGHT THAT ORDINANCE TO RESPECT THAT IT WAS THE PEOPLE THAT SAID, "WE WANT YOU TO DO SOMETHING." AND WE PUT THAT SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS, NOT JUST THIS MIND, THE ONES I WAS ON.
UM, THE BOND WAS A CONVENIENCE, BUT IT WASN'T, IT WAS A REQUIREMENT FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF IT BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO PUT IT IN A, A BOND ELECTION, WHICH THEY DID TWICE AND TWICE IT FAILED.
UH, I TRULY BELIEVE THIS WOULD PASS, BUT I ALSO TRULY BELIEVE I DON'T WANNA LOSE THE TRUST OF THE VOTERS.
THEY'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, AND IT'S BEEN MORE THAN, UH, TWO PEOPLE OR 10 PEOPLE OR 15 PEOPLE.
SO I'D RATHER SEE COUNCIL MEMBER HAWKINS' THOUGH PROCESS, UH, WHICH IS WHY WITH MINE IS TO DO A GENERAL ELECTION ON THIS.
IF IT'S THE VALUE OF THE AIRPORT IS $250 MILLION AND YOU WANNA COMPARE 500,000 TO A POTENTIAL UPSWING OF $250,000, COUNT ME IN.
IF WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD, I LIKE TO SEE US MOVE FORWARD WITH THE GENERAL ELECTION.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, I DO APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS TOPIC BACK UP.
IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT, UM, TOPIC THAT, UM, WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
AND SO FOR ME, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ADDITIONAL OPTIONS OF AMENDING OUR COURT, OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE, UM, BUT STILL KEEPING THE, THE VOTE THERE WITH OUR RESIDENTS.
SO SEEING WHAT OPTIONS WE DO HAVE AVAILABLE, WHETHER IT'S A GENERAL ELECTION OR SOONER OR...
THE SOONER THE BETTER, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF LATER WORKS OUT CONSIDERING THE, THE TIMEFRAMES AND THE CONSTRAINTS, BUT I STILL WOULD LIKE TO SEE A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS ITEM.
SO IF WE CAN, UM, SEE WHAT OPTIONS WE HAVE, AMENDING THIS ORDINANCE, DETACHING IT FROM THE REQUIREMENT OF THE BOND, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.
WE'D LIKE TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LOOK INTO THIS.
IT WAS DONE WHERE EVERY BUSINESS OWNER WHO NEEDED TO SAY SOMETHING WAS THERE.
THOSE WHO HAD SENT EMAIL TO US FOR OR AGAINST DIDN'T SHOW UP THAT NIGHT.
AND FRANKLY, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THEM ARE IN THIS ROOM RIGHT NOW.
SO THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, I'M NOT SITTING HERE SAYING THAT I WANT TO TAKE THE TRUST OF THE PEOPLE AND THROW IT BACK IN THEIR FACES.
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IS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US A DECISION TO MAKE, WHICH REQUIRES THAT WE TRULY HAVE THE COURAGE TO MAKE THAT DECISION.THE SAME WAY AT THE TIME, I BELIEVE THAT COUNCIL HAD THE COURAGE TO MAKE THAT DECISION BECAUSE THEY HAD THE PEOPLE OR THEY HAD A FEW PEOPLE THAT THEY THROW AT THE TIME.
AND AT THIS TIME, WHAT WE ARE SAYING OR WHAT I'M TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD HERE IS THIS CITY.
I AM NOT MOVING ANYTHING FORWARD THAT WILL LOOK AT MY OWN INTEREST BECAUSE THE INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE OF CHANDLER, THAT'S WHAT I AM TRYING TO MOVE HERE TONIGHT.
I DO NOT WANT TO TAKE THEM OUT WHEN YOU GO BACK WITH YOUR TEAM.
I DO NOT WANT THE PEOPLE TO BE OUT OF THE PROCESS.
ALL I'M SAYING TONIGHT IS THAT WE HAVE TIED OUR HANDS WITH AN ORDINANCE AND NOW WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNTIE IT AND BRING MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN IT IN 2026 RATHER THAN 1998.
AND THOSE, AND I LIVE IN THAT PATHWAY OF THAT AIRPORT.
I'VE BEEN LIVING THERE, LORD KNOWS FOR HOW LONG.
AND SO THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS I'M ONE OF THEM.
I'M ONE OF THOSE CONSTITUENTS, SO I'M TALKING TO MYSELF ALSO.
I AM NOT ASKING YOU TO GO BACK, MR. RYAN, AND TRY TO REMOVE THE PEOPLE FROM THE PROCESS.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT PUT THE PROS AND THE CON TOGETHER WITH THE FACT THAT DO WE WANT TO GAMBLE WITH THIS CITY, CONTINUE TO GAMBLE WITH THIS AIRPORT THAT IS SITTING RIGHT THERE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS PROGRESSIVE, SOMETHING THAT IS AMAZING, SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO MOVE THE CITY FORWARD.
AND I'M GONNA LEAVE US WITH THIS AND TO ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES, ELECTIONS, THREATS OF ELECTION SHOULD NOT STOP US FROM MAKING DECISION TO MOVE THE CITY FORWARD.
AND THOSE WHO USE THREATS OF ELECTION TO STOP PEOPLE, I HAVE SAT ON THIS DAY SO MANY TIMES AND I'VE SEEN THEM C- CAME FOR ME FOR THIS SEAT BECAUSE I HAVE TAKEN STANDS THAT REQUIRES ME HAVE THE COURAGE TO MAKE A DECISION FOR THE GREATER GOOD.
AND I HAVE DONE THAT WITH EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR THE PEOPLE OF CHANDLER BECAUSE EVERY NIGHT I LEAVE HERE, I'M GONNA GO HOME AND I'M GONNA HAVE A GOOD NIGHT'S SLEEP BECAUSE I'VE DONE IT WELL AND I'VE DONE IT WITH A CLEAN HAND AND A PURE HEART FOR THE PEOPLE OF CHANDLER.
WHILE I'M ASKING YOU THIS ONE QUESTION, I JUST KINDA WANNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE HEADS UP.
IF YOU COULD PULL UP THE SLIDE THAT HAD THAT TIMELINE ON IT.
SOMETHING CAUGHT MY EYE AND I'M GONNA HAVE A SECOND QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
SO, UM, I GUESS MY FIRST, MY FIRST QUESTION THOUGH, UM, ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAD ABOUT THIS WAS THE PUBLIC INPUT.
AND AGAIN, THE VOTERS KINDA SIMILAR TO SOME, WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SPOKEN ABOUT UP HERE.
AND THAT WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE DATA THAT WE RECEIVED, IT WAS FROM AIRPORT DAYS, WHICH WAS KIND OF A, A, A, AN AUDIENCE THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA TYPICALLY LEAN FOR AN AIRPORT ANYHOW, ALONG WITH OUR SCITECH FESTIVAL.
AND I, AND I KNOW WE DID THE OUTREACH THAT WE COULD, BUT I, I JUST REALLY KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO DO MORE.
ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU HAD SAID TO SORT OF SOOTHE THAT CONCERN THAT I HAD HAD WAS THAT THE FAA REQUIRES PUBLIC INPUT.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OCCURRED TO ME AFTER WE HAD THIS MEETING LAST TIME IS ONCE THEY GET THAT INPUT AND WE HAVE STARTED THIS PROCESS, WHOSE DECISION IS IT THEN? WHEN WE'RE GETTING THAT PUBLIC INPUT, DOES IT THEN COME BACK TO THIS COUNCIL? DOES IT, DO THE VOTERS GET TO DECIDE OR ARE WE SEEDING THAT DECISION TO THE FAA BECAUSE AT THAT POINT WE STARTED THE PROCESS? UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER POSTON.
THE FAA MANDATED, UH, PUBLIC INPUT, PARTICULARLY THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS AS WELL AS THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS, THAT IS IN THE FAA'S COURT.
IT IS FOR THEM TO ASSESS, DECIDE, ADJUST.
NOW THAT SAID, WE HAVE SEEN MULTIPLE EXAMPLES, UM, EVEN LOCALLY AND LATELY OF THE FAA HEEDING THAT CALL TO THE PUBLIC AND ADJUSTING NOT ONLY THEIR TIMELINES, BUT QUITE POSSIBLY THEIR ULTIMATE DECISIONS.
THEY GATHER TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PUBLIC INPUT THROUGH PARTICULARLY THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS.
THERE ARE IN-PERSON MEETINGS, VIRTUAL MEETINGS.
TYPICALLY, A, I WOULD SAY A THOROUGH NEPA REVIEW TAKES ANYWHERE FROM 12 TO 18 MONTHS.
AND THAT'S JUST FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE OF THIS.
AND THEN THERE'S TWO DESIGN PHASES ON EACH SIDE OF THAT ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, ALL OF WHICH HAVE PUBLIC INPUT.
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UM - OH, OKAY.I, I THINK THIS ACTUALLY KIND OF LEADS INTO MY NEXT QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE ANSWERED IT.
UM, BUT AT THAT POINT, IT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT TIMELINE THAT YOU SHOWED, YOU'RE GETTING THAT INPUT AT THAT 30% DESIGN AND THE OUTPUT.
SO AT THAT POINT, OUR RESIDENTS ARE DISCUSSING THE DESIGN, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, THE IMPACT AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
OUR RESIDENTS ARE NOT GIVING YOU INPUT ON WHETHER THEY WANT THIS OR NOT THOUGH.
THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT.
SO THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION IN YOUR ANSWER.
UM, UM, JUST TO CLARIFY, IN TERMS OF IF WE ARE ASKING STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD, WE'RE ASKING THEM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ALL THREE POSSIBILITIES, UM, THAT WHETHER IT'S THE POSSIBILITY OF A, OR ANY POSSIBILITY OF NOT MOVING FORWARD, MAYBE EVEN BEING ONE OF THEM, IF THAT'S THE MOST APPROPRIATE, THE VOTE, THE POTENTIAL OF A VOTE AND THE POTENTIAL OF US ADJUSTING THE ORDINANCE SOMEHOW.
THEN, THEN I CAN SUPPORT THAT.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT, RYAN.
CITY MANAGER, DO YOU HAVE A, DO YOU HAVE A, THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE FOG PERHAPS, DO YOU HAVE A PRESCIENT VOICE OF DIRECTION OF WHAT TO INVESTIGATE AND BRING BACK TO US EXPLORING THE POSSIBILITY OF ELECTIONS IF WE SHIFTED FROM A BOND TO A GENERAL, WHAT ORDINANCE WOULD LOOK LIKE, UH, UH, THE, THE TIMELINES THAT ARE POSSIBLY MENTIONED TO BRING THIS BACK TO, UH, FUTURE COUNCIL OR THIS COUNCIL OR FUTURE COUNCIL? MAYOR, I THINK THE DIRECTION IS CLEAR THAT BY THE NO- NOVEMBER 9TH MEETING, WE NEED TO BRING BACK TWO NEW ORDINANCES, ONE THAT WOULD REMOVE THE BOND ELECTION AND PUT A GENERAL ELECTION IN, AND ONE THAT WOULD REMOVE THE ELECTIONS ENTIRELY.
THAT THIRD OPTION IS STAND PACK, AND THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY CHANGES TO THE CURRENT ORDINANCE.
IF WE DO THAT IN NOVEMBER, I THINK THE FIRST MEETING IS NOVEMBER 9TH, THAT STILL GIVES US TIME TO CAMP...
MAYOR, I WAS SPEAKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY.
I THINK WITH THE TIMELINE CHANGING YOUR ORDINANCE, YOU HAVE AN INTRODUCTION AND THEN A SECOND READING AND THEN IT'S EFFECTIVE 30 DAYS AFTER.
SO REALISTICALLY, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT THE JULY 20, 2027 ELECTION.
YES, BECAUSE YOU'D NOTIFY THE COUNTY BY JANUARY 21ST.
SO ALSO PUT IN THERE THE OPTIONS AND, AND EVEN PROS AND CONS OF, UH, IF COUNCIL WANTED TO PROCEED THAT WAY, WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THAT? SO, UH, MOVING BEYOND AN OP - UH, BEYOND A VOTE, LOOKING AT THE, THE BOND OPTION, LOOKING AT A GENERAL, I THINK IS THE, THE QUESTIONS TO GET INPUT AND PRE- PREPARE SOME POSSIBILITIES.
OKAY? WE WILL TAKE THAT INPUT AND GET IT BACK TO COUNCIL AS SOON AS WE CAN.
JUST, UM, BACK, BUT ALSO, UM, SPECIAL MEETINGS TOO CAN, CAN ALSO ALLEVIATE ISSUES AS WELL, SO.
I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.
UM, WE HAVE TWO MORE DISCUSSION POINTS.
UH, TO JUST, UH, CONSIDER REDUCING FULL-TIME HOURS FOR EMPLOYMENT, BENEFIT, ELIGIBILITY.
THIS IS REQUESTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.
UM, MAYOR, I GOT THAT QUESTION ANSWERED.
AND A THIRD, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE DIRECTION TO CONSIDER ROLLING 410 SCHEDULES FOR EMPLOYEES.
YEAH, I WANTED TO, UM, UM, CITY MANAGER, IF YOU CAN HELP ME.
I SPOKE WITH CITY MANAGER ABOUT BRINGING THIS FORWARD, AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO DO WAS LOOK AT POTENTIAL, UM, CHANGING CITY HOURS TO ALLOW OUR COMMUNITY TO HAVE, UM, FOR US TO HAVE LONGER DAYS, UM, OR 10 HOURS, SO THAT WAY COMMUNITY CAN...
THOSE THAT WORK IN THE MORNING TIME CAN STILL COME AND GET THE BENEFIT OF NIGHT HOURS AND MAKING SURE THAT, UM, WE'RE ABLE...
OUR SERVICES ARE REFLECTIVE OF A COMMUNITY THAT WORKS TWENTY FOUR SEVEN.
AND RIGHT NOW, OUR COMMUNITY HOURS ARE ONLY REFLECTIVE OF, UM, OUR BUSINESS HOURS ONLY REFLECTIVE FOR MOST DEPARTMENTS IS ONLY REFLECTIVE OF A COMMUNITY THAT W - DURING, IS, THAT'S WORKING DURING THE DAYTIME.
AND ALSO, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EMPLOYEES HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY BY HAVING LONGER DAYS, THEY CAN ALSO GET MENTAL WELLBEING, THEY CAN GO TO THEIR KIDS' SOCCER GAMES, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY, UH, HAVE TIME AWAY.
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SO I KINDA...JOHN, CAN YOU HELP, CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THIS? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M ASKING, SO WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
SO, UH, AND THEN ALSO STAFF, ALSO FACILITY HOURS, BECAUSE SOME, SOME OF OUR STAFF WORKS ON SUNDAYS AND I, I'M NOT SURE IF I, IF I WANT STAFF TO WORK.
UM, SOME DEPARTMENTS WORK ON SUNDAYS.
UH, OBVIOUSLY, LAW ENFORCEMENT IS PROBABLY TWENTY FOUR SEVEN, BUT THERE ARE, UM, ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY MAKE, UM, IN SOME OF OUR SANITATION DEPARTMENT AS WELL.
THEY WORK ON SUNDAYS, UNSURE IF THAT'S NEEDED OR NOT, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN BETTER SERVE OUR COMMUNITY, BETTER SERVE OUR EMPLOYEES, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE BEING COMPARABLE, AND ALSO LOOK AT WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING SO WE CAN GET UP TO DATE, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 2026, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE.
SO, CITY MANAGER, I WANNA TOSS THAT OUT THERE TO YOU.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UH, RIGHT NOW, WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A FIVE-EIGHT SCHEDULE THAT HAS NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS FOR THE CITY OF CHANDLER.
ALTHOUGH I SAY THAT, OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE MANY EMPLOYEES THAT WORK, UH, ALL SEVEN DAYS OF THE WEEK, NOT INDIVIDUALLY, BUT THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE OPEN SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, TWENTY FOUR SEVEN.
I BELIEVE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WE ALREADY HAVE 25 TO 30% OF OUR CURRENT EMPLOYEES THAT WORK THE FOUR / 10 SCHEDULE.
SO WE HAVE SOME ON FOUR / 10S, WE HAVE SOME ON FIVE / EIGHT, AND THEN THAT DOESN'T BEGIN TO ACCOUNT FOR FIRE, WHICH I'M NOT GONNA TRY TO EXPLAIN THEIR SCHEDULES, OKAY? WITH THAT SAID, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A VERY STRONG SYSTEM AS IT CURRENTLY SITS.
I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM ANY INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS WHETHER WE NEED THE EXTENDED HOURS.
IT IS SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK TO SEE WHAT THE BUSINESS TRENDS ARE.
DO WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE LINED UP IN THE MORNING? DO WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO MISS DEADLINES IN THE AFTERNOON? AND WE CAN LOOK AT THAT ON AN INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT BASIS.
CURRENTLY, WE LOOK AT FOUR 10S ON AN INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT BASIS.
IS THERE A NEED WITHIN YOUR DEPARTMENT FOR THOSE ADDITION...
FOR THOSE TYPES OF HOURS, AND DOES YOUR BUSINESS ALLOW FOR IT? I WAS, UH, IN MESA WHEN WE WENT TO FOUR 10S, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT WAS POPULAR WITH ABOUT 60% OF THE EMPLOYEES, 40% WANTED FIVE EIGHTS.
THEY WANTED THAT ABILITY FOR THE EXPANDED FAMILY TIME.
CHILDCARE IS ALWAYS DIFFICULT TO GET AS THIS COUNCIL KNOWS.
ADDING LONGER DAYS MAKES CHILDCARE VERY DIFFICULT.
SO THERE ARE MANY ASPECTS OF THIS PROBLEM THAT GOES INTO IT.
WHILE WE ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO GO FROM OUR DEPARTMENT TO DEPARTMENT STANDPOINT, UM, I DO NOT THINK, AND I'VE NEVER HEARD FROM THIS COUNCIL, THE DESIRE TO BE OPEN ONLY FOUR DAYS OUT OF THE WEEK.
WE WANNA CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN OUR FIVE-DAY SCHEDULE, AND WE WILL LOOK FOR WAYS TO IMPROVE THAT.
I'M HAPPY IF THIS IS THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL TO BRING BACK A MORE BROAD PLAN TO SHOW YOU WHERE WE USE IT AND WHERE WE DO NOT, OR IF YOU WANT US TO CONSIDER ANY OF THOSE OTHER OPTIONS AS PART OF THIS ACTION, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT, BUT I'M VERY CONFIDENT RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE REALLY BALANCING PRETTY WELL, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF LOOKING AT THE DEPARTMENTS TO FIND OUT IF THERE'S ANYWHERE WHERE ENHANCED HOURS WOULD BE A BENEFIT, APART FROM, LIKE, COMMUNITY SERVICES WHICH ALREADY HAS EXPANDED HOURS BECAUSE THEY OPERATE THE FACILITIES.
I WAS AT MESQUITE, MESQUITE GROVE POOL THIS WEEKEND.
IT'S ACTUALLY REALLY COOL, SO I'M JUST GONNA THROW THAT OUT.
SO, MAYOR, SO MAYOR, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS, UM, HAVE...
I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO LOOK INTO IT, UM, SEE, YOU KNOW, GO SURVEY THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, GO SEE EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE, WHAT WOULD BE BEST SUITED, HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR A LATER DAY FOR A WORK SESSION FOR US TO LOOK AT HOW WE'RE DELIVERING SERVICES.
DO WE NEED EXPANDED HOURS? HAVE WE SURVEYED OUR COMMUNITY TO SEE IF THIS IS GONNA WORK OR NOT? I JUST REALLY WANT STAFF TO GO BACK AND L- LOOK FURTHER INTO IT, AND THEN BRING IT BACK LATER, UM, FOR A WORK SESSION, UM, SOMETHING LATER IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE NOT IN 2026, BUT DEFINITELY 2027.
THAT'S KINDA WHERE I'M AT WITH IT.
WELL, IN THE SPIRIT OF THE PRIOR THING, LET ME START WITH THIS END, WITH COUNCIL MEMBER POSTON, AND WE STARTED THERE AND SHARE YOUR COMMENTS.
IF THERE IS ENOUGH OF A WILL, THEN WE WILL PROCEED.
OTHERWISE, WE, WE CAN ALWAYS ASK CITY MANAGER TO BRING BACK THE MATERIALS, BUT WOULD, UH, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEED WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS'S REQUEST? I WOULD LIKE NOT TO GO FIRST.
UM, ACTUALLY, I, I, UM, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, I NEVER OPPOSED IT LOOKING AT SERVING OUR COMMUNITY BETTER AND OUR RESIDENTS BETTER, BUT I DO FEEL FAIRLY COMFORTABLE WITH THE ANSWER THAT OUR CITY MANAGER GAVE US THAT THEY'RE DOING THAT.
SO, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF, FROM WHAT I'M HEARING FROM HIM, IF THIS NEEDS THE FULL WEIGHT OF A WORK SESSION AND A, AND A DEEPER STUDY.
SO IF I'M MISREADING THAT, I'D BE OPEN TO HAVING FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH YOU ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT, COUNCIL MEMBER.
BUT AT, AT THIS POINT, I'M PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT OUR CITY MANAGER SAID THAT WE'RE DOING THAT, AND MAYBE THERE'S, AS OPPOSED TO A BIG, HUGE SURVEY, MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING MODIFIED HE COULD LOOK INTO THAT WOULD MEET YOUR...
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MAYOR, MAY I, MAY I RESPOND? JUST LOVINGLY.UM, UM, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GIVEN THEM NO DIRECTION, UM, AND THEY HAVEN'T REALLY DID ALL THAT WORK.
I JUST KIND OF WANT THEM TO KIND OF LOOK INTO IT.
I'M NOT SAYING WHAT LEVEL OF EXTENSIVE WORK THEY SHOULD DO, BUT ALSO, UH, JUST GO BACK OUT THERE AND ASK.
YOU KNOW, I, I TRUST THE CITY MANAGER, I TRUST HIS TEAM, BUT I JUST WANT HIM TO GO OUT THERE AND REALLY ASK AND, AND DO THAT TYPE OF WORK.
IT DON'T GOTTA BE, IT DON'T HAVE TO BE EXPANDED WHERE IT'S GONNA COST A LOT OF RESOURCES, BUT JUST GO OUT THERE AND ASK.
UM, I TRUST HIS OPINION, BUT ALSO I WANNA VERIFY WITH THE, WITH OUR DEPARTMENTS, WITH OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL.
I'M GONNA CONTINUE AND LET'S LET EVERYONE GO WITHOUT COMMENT.
WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS DISCUSSED THIS WITH ME, UH, CITY MANAGER, I, THE QUESTIONS, BECAUSE I'M SO USED TO THESE FLEXIBLE HOURS BEING IN THE HEALTHCARE AND KNOWING THAT YOU HAVE TO BE...
THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE ASKED IS THAT WHAT IS THE INTENT BEHIND IT? UH, AND I THINK HIS HEART BEHIND IT, WHAT AS HE EXPLAINED IT TO ME WAS THE FACT THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF EMPLOYEES THAT ARE WORKING FOR US AND THEY HAVE TO TAKE SICK TIME TO GO TO THE DOCTOR.
OR IF THEIR KIDS ARE SICK, THEY DON'T HAVE A DAY WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY SCHEDULE ALL DAY THINGS THAT REQUIRES THAT THEY GO THERE DURING THE DAY BECAUSE THINGS, THEY WORK FROM EIGHT TO FIVE AND THEY WERE FIVE DAYS AND THAT'S IT.
UM, DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT, ALL THOSE THINGS REQUIRE THEM TO LEAVE WORK IN ORDER TO GO.
SO GIVING EMPLOYEES SOME KINDS OF, UH, UH, THE OPTIONS TO BE ABLE TO CHOOSE THOSE HOURS MIGHT HELP THEM TO FACILITATE THEIR DAILY LIVES INTO PLANNING WHEN THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO SEE THEIR DOCTORS AND WHEN THEY WOULD LIKE TO, UH, ACTUALLY HAVE OTHER THINGS DONE DURING THE WEEK THAT REQUIRED IT BETWEEN 8:00 AND 5:00.
SO, UM, I AGREE WITH THAT, UM, THAT I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE CHOICES.
I'M NOT SAYING WE ARE WORKING GREAT AND, AND WE DO HAVE EMPLOYEES RIGHT NOW THAT ARE DOING THAT, BUT IF WE LOOK TO SEE WHERE ELSE CAN WE OFFER IT, MAYBE SOME PEOPLE, OTHER PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO DO IT, BUT THEIR DEPARTMENT DON'T OFFER IT.
BUT IF WE OPEN IT TO A DISCUSSION AND LOOKING INTO IT, THAT MIGHT PUT THEM IN A POSITION WHERE THEY, UM, THEIR DIRECTORS OR EVEN THEIR SUPERVISOR MIGH SAY, "HEY, YOU HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO DO THAT.
CAN YOU DO IT?" AS LONG AS YOU'RE PRODUCTIVE, YOU'RE DOING YOUR WORK, YOU'RE DOING WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, THEN YOU CAN ARRANGE YOUR SCHEDULE THAT WAY.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY I'M SAYING THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT IT.
UM, THIS IS, I, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE VERY WELL RUN CITY ALREADY.
WE KNOW WHAT OUR FOUNDATION IS AND, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S AN EXTENSIVE NEED, UM, BUT I CAN APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS UP FOR THIS, UH, DISCUSSION.
BUT I, I HAVE TO THINK OF THE, UM, THE LIFESTYLE CHANGE, THE CULTURE CHANGE THAT MIGHT POSSIBLY IMPACT.
BUT I'M ALSO AM CURIOUS TO SEE IF THERE'S SOME EFFICIENCIES IN SOME DEPARTMENTS.
IF THERE IS A DEPARTMENT THAT IS BETTER AT 410.
I AM A LITTLE BIT CURIOUS JUST, JUST TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT AT, AT THE SAME TIME, I WILL SAY I'M VERY, UM, SATISFIED IN THE CURRENT OPERATIONS THAT WE ARE RUNNING AS A CITY.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF I MADE MYSELF SUPER CLEAR THERE OR NOT.
THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
FOLLOW UP, CITY MANAGER, WHAT IS THE WORK SCHEDULE NOW FOR MOST OF THE EMPLOYEES, ROUGHLY? I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN SPEAK TO MOST OF THE EMPLOYEES RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WHEN I THINK OF YOUR TWO BIGGEST, UH, EMPLOYERS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, I THINK IT'S PREDOMINANTLY FOR SWORN FOUR TIMES, BUT, AND THEY WORK ALL VARIED SCHEDULES OBVIOUSLY.
NO, LET ME, LET ME REPHRASE THE QUESTION.
IS IT A EIGHT HOUR WORKDAY PLUS AN HOUR LUNCH? SO YOU HEAR NINE HOURS.
RIGHT? IF YOU GO TO - FOR FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, YES.
FOR FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AT A BARE MINIMUM, THAT IS CORRECT.
SO IF I COME IN AT A 10-HOUR WORK WEEK, NOW I'M ACTUALLY HERE 11 HOURS.
UH, GENERALLY THAT IS CORRECT.
SO NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOMEONE COMING IN AT SEVEN O'CLOCK POTENTIALLY, WORKING THE SIX.
NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOMEONE COMING AT 8:00 WORKING THE 7:00.
UM, UM, AGAIN, UM, I KNOW WHEN I WAS IN A NATIONAL GUARD, WE DID A SURVEY OF FOUR 10S WITH OUR GUARDS MEMBERS AND THE SAFETY WENT UP DRAMATICALLY.
ISSUES WITH SAFETY WENT UP DRAMATICALLY.
UH, PARTICULARLY WRENCH TURNERS, FOLKS THAT HANDLE HEAVY EQUIPMENT, FOLKS THAT DRIVE.
THAT EXTRA HOUR, THAT TIMEFRAME, BECAUSE IT'S GETTING DARK, IT'S EARLY, EARLY IN THE MORNING IT'S DARK.
WE EXPONENTIALLY WENT UP AND IT WAS, WE IMMEDIATELY WENT BACK TO OUR ORIGINAL SHIFT.
UM, SO MY CONCERN WOULD BE WITH SAFETY AND LOOKING AT THAT AREA AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT 11 HOUR DAY, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, BEHIND A
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DESK OR TURNING A WRENCH, THAT IS A LONG DAY FOR ANYONE.UM, AND I KNOW THERE'S OTHER MODIFICATIONS EVERY OTHER FRIDAY, BUT NINE HOURS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, WE CAN LOOK AT THESE THINGS, BUT I, I DO TRUST WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND WHAT THE CITY MANAGER'S DOING, THAT WE DO HAVE THE COVERAGE, UH, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, BECAUSE I HATE TO BE THE ONE PERSON THAT NEEDS A PERMIT TO GET THE JOB DONE ON A FOUR O'CLOCK ON A FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND NOW, OH, SORRY, THE DOOR'S CLOSED.
UH, AND AGAIN, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY HOPEFULLY WE COULD DO THAT.
UM, BUT I DON'T WANNA SHUT DOWN CITY HALL.
SO IF THERE'S A, UH, YOU KNOW, WE COULD LOOK AT A LOT OF HOURS, BUT I ALSO AGREE WITH YOUR PHILOSOPHY OF LET THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE THE DISCRETION OF HOW THEY WANNA WORK THEIR SCHEDULE.
UM, AND SOME FOLKS MAY BE HAPPY WITH, UM, REGULAR NINE TO, NINE TO SIX, EIGHT TO FIVE, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS.
BUT 11 HOUR LONG, 11 HOUR DAY IS A REAL LONG DAY.
SO ANYWAY, THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.
UM, I, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WHAT YOU'RE DOING TODAY, ALLOWING THE DEPARTMENTS TO BE FLEXIBLE INSTEAD OF MANDATING ANYTHING FROM A COUNCIL STANDPOINT, WHICH I DON'T KNOW HOW THE DEPARTMENTS ARE RUN.
UM, I'M FINE IF YOU WANNA BRING BACK SOME INFORMATION, JUST HIGH LEVEL OF WHAT THAT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE TODAY.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED A SEPARATE STUDY SESSION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT IF YOU COULD AT LEAST PROVIDE THE INFORMATION THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS IS TALKING ABOUT.
AND I'LL CLOSE, UM, CONVERSATION.
IS IT, I, I'D BE CURIOUS TOO, A LOT OF THE REQUESTS, HOW MUCH ARE WE ABLE TO MEET THOSE WITH, UH, EXPANDING AI? WHAT ARE THE, THE KIND OF REQUESTS? IS THERE A WAY THAT AS WE ARE LOOKING AT MORE AND MORE PROVIDING SERVICES WITHOUT NECESSARILY TALKING TO A PERSON? IS THERE, IS THERE WAYS THAT, HOW ARE WE EXPANDING SERVICES TO MEET OUR COMMUNITY? I THINK IS THE HEART OF COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS'S QUESTION.
AND IS THERE OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN DO THAT WITHOUT, UM, I MEAN, I'M, I'M LIKE VICE MAYOR, NOW I'M A LITTLE CURIOUS WHO DOES WHAT, BUT I DO TRUST YOUR, YOUR READ ON THE CITY, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO EXPLORE, UH, ARE THERE OTHER WAYS OTHER THAN CHANGING HOURS THAT WE CAN, UH, MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY? SO THAT'S WHERE I WOULD LAST.
I, I GUESS WE'RE ASKING YOU TO GIVE US SOME MORE INFORMATION WITH, WITH, UH, NOT A, NOT A COMPLETE BUY-IN ON, ON SAYING THAT, UH, WE WANT TO JUMP INTO A STUDY SESSION OR GO DEEP IN THIS WITHOUT KNOWING MORE.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT I HEARD, SO.
MAYOR COUNCIL, THE, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND MY DEPARTMENTS WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE THIS CHALLENGE UP, NOT ONLY TO LOOK AT WHAT WE CURRENTLY DO, BUT ARE THERE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPAND HOURS WHILE NOT CHANGING MUCH OF WHAT WE DO? FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN HAVE EIGHT HOUR SHIFTS THAT ARE NINE HOURS.
ONE STARTS AT SIX, ONE STARTS AT SEVEN, ONE STARTS AT EIGHT, AND YOU'VE JUST EXPANDED THE HOURS THE CITY HAS AVAILABLE.
AND IT MAY FIT SOMEBODY'S LIFESTYLE BETTER, IT MAY FIT THE, WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR BETTER.
SO WE WILL TALK ACROSS OUR DEPARTMENTS TO MAKE SURE, A, WHAT ARE WE DOING TODAY, AND B, ARE THERE INNOVATIONS OR NEW WAYS OF LOOKING THINGS THAT COULD GIVE PEOPLE BETTER LIFE, HOME LIFE QUALITY AND PROVIDE MORE TO OUR RESIDENTS? WE ARE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
THANK YOU MAYOR AND, THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERING THIS AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT THE CITY MANAGER AND HIS TEAM PUTS TOGETHER.
COUNCIL, THAT CONCLUDES OUR MEETING TONIGHT.
THANK YOU FOR THE ROBUST CONVERSATIONS AND WE'LL SEE YOU ON THURSDAY.