May 18, 2026 City Council Study Session 05/18/2026

WHEREVER YOU TELL ME I NEED. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE CHANDLER CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION.

[ Call to Order]

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MAYOR HARTKE HERE, VICE MAYOR ENCINAS HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER POSTON HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS IS ABSENT. EXCUSED. COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS HERE. AND COUNCIL MEMBER HOPKINS HERE.

WE HAVE A QUORUM HERE AGAIN. NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS SCHEDULED PUBLIC APPEARANCES.

I'D LIKE TO INVITE COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS TO JOIN ME IN FRONT.

ALL RIGHT. OUR FIRST SCHEDULED PUBLIC APPEARANCE IS A PROCLAMATION FOR PUBLIC WORKS WEEK.

[1. Proclamation: Public Works Week]

MAYOR. LIKEWISE. ALL RIGHT, LET ME READ THIS PROCLAMATION.

WE'LL LINE YOU UP FOR A PHOTO LATER. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT YET, BUT YOU GUYS ARE SO GOOD.

YOU'RE ALREADY LINING UP. PREEMPTIVE STRIKES HERE.

THAT'S RIGHT. YOU KNOW HOW TO LINE THINGS UP IN PUBLIC WORKS.

WHEREAS PUBLIC WORK PROFESSIONALS SUPPORT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITIES AND SERVICES THAT ARE VITAL TO BUILDING, SUSTAINING AND SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT COMMUNITIES, AND TO PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH, QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE WELL-BEING OF THE PEOPLE OF CHANDLER. AND WHEREAS THESE SYSTEMS AND SERVICES ARE MADE POSSIBLE BY THE DEDICATED EFFORT OF PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS WHO HELP BUILD, MAINTAIN AND PROTECT OUR CITY'S TRANSPORTATION NETWORK, WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEMS, SOLID WASTE SERVICES, PUBLIC BUILDINGS, AND OTHER ESSENTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND WHEREAS IT'S IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST FOR RESIDENTS, CIVIC LEADERS, AND ORGANIZATIONS IN CHANDLER TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF PUBLIC WORKS AND THE ROLE THESE PROGRAMS PLAY IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND WHEREAS THE YEAR 2026 MARKS THE 66TH YEAR OF NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK, TWEAK NOW.

THEREFORE, I, KEVIN HARTKE, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF CHANDLER, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 17TH THROUGH 23 AS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK.

WHO. ARE YOU SPEAKING OR SOMEBODY ELSE? THANK YOU.

MAYOR. SO FIRST OF ALL, I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR SUPPORTING THE PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.

CAN'T DO THE THINGS WE DO WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE TEAM THAT THAT SHOW WAS ABLE TO SHOW UP AND SHOW THEIR SUPPORT AND THE ALL THE OTHER INDIVIDUALS.

I AM SO PROUD TO HAVE SUCH A COMPASSIONATE AND PASSIONATE DEPARTMENT OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WORK BEHIND THE SCENES TO SUPPORT KEEPING OUR TRAFFIC AND STREETS SAFE, OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEMS OPERATING, AND AS WELL AS ADDRESSING OUR SOLID WASTE.

SO THIS IS FOR THEM. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. STEPHANIE. WE'RE READY FOR A PHOTO.

CAN YOU IMPROVE ON WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY DONE? ALL RIGHT. YEAH.

OKAY. THERE WE GO. SORRY.

ONE MORE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT IS RECOGNITION JUST AWARDS. IF IF LINDA FINLINSON CHANDLER AREA JUST SERVED

[2. Recognition: JustServe Awards]

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ROBIN. I THOUGHT MAYBE YOU HAD A SISTER THAT WAS HERE.

IS THERE A MICROPHONE HERE? JUST TALK. WOW. THAT'S COOL.

HIGH TECH MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND EVERYONE ELSE UP THERE.

IN 2026, AMERICA IS CELEBRATING 250 YEARS SINCE THE SIGNING OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE.

AND JUST SERVE IS COLLABORATING WITH AMERICA GIVES AN INITIATIVE OF AMERICA.

250 WHAT'S THE MAIN GOAL? TO HAVE MORE VOLUNTEERISM THAN EVER IN AMERICAN HISTORY? JUST SERVE IS ALSO PRESENTING THE HEART OF SERVICE AWARD TO SOME OUTSTANDING VOLUNTEERS AND COMMUNITY LEADERS THROUGHOUT THE NATION WHO ACTIVELY PROMOTE AND EXPAND VOLUNTEERISM. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THEM. THIS EVENING, I'M THRILLED TO PRESENT A MEDALLION AND CERTIFICATE TO THREE COMMUNITY LEADERS IN CHANDLER WHO HAVE AN EXCEPTIONAL HEART FOR SERVING OTHERS.

WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THE AWARD, THE FIRST PERSON I THOUGHT OF WAS MAYOR KEVIN HARTKE.

FOR WELL OVER A DECADE, IN ONE ROLE OR ANOTHER, MAYOR HARTKE HAS HELPED TO CREATE SERVICE OPPORTUNITIES AND CONNECT AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE TO THEM. HE BRINGS PEOPLE OF DIFFERENT FAITHS, POLITICAL VIEWS AND EVERY OTHER WAY THAT PEOPLE CAN BE DIFFERENT TOGETHER IN FRIENDSHIP AND LOVE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR ONE ANOTHER.

THROUGH SERVING TOGETHER THE MOST VULNERABLE AMONG US, HE LEADS CHANDLER AND WAY BEYOND BY HIS EXAMPLE OF SERVICE.

HE TAKES TIME TO PERSONALLY KNOW AND COMPASSIONATELY SERVE MANY INDIVIDUALS STRUGGLING TO GET OUT OF HOMELESSNESS.

HIS OWN HANDS VOLUNTARILY WHEELED, FOR EXAMPLE, A PAINTBRUSH TO BEAUTIFY A NEIGHBORHOOD OR A SCHOOL BACKPACK FILLED WITH SUPPLIES SO HE CAN GIVE IT TO A CHILD. MAYOR. PLEASE ACCEPT THIS AWARD AS YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN GIVEN.

NEXT UP IS CAROL PAULSON. AND NOW CAROL PAULSON, I'M GOING TO READ TO YOU WHAT AMY BAILEY, ANOTHER GESTURE OF SPECIALISTS LIKE ME SAID OF HER QUOTE, CAROL PAULSON HAS A REMARKABLE ABILITY TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER, BUILDING MEANINGFUL CONNECTIONS THAT STRENGTHEN BOTH NONPROFITS AND THE INDIVIDUALS THEY SERVE. AS DIRECTOR OF THE CHANDLER BUSINESS ALLIANCE FOUNDATION AND THROUGH HER INVOLVEMENT WITH THE CHANDLER BUSINESS ALLIANCE.

NOW GET THIS. CAROL SUPPORTS AND STAYS CONNECTED WITH A NETWORK OF MORE THAN 90 NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THROUGH HELPING THEM COLLABORATE, SHARE RESOURCES, AND EXPAND THEIR COLLECTIVE IMPACT.

SHE CONSISTENTLY CHAMPIONS A CULTURE OF GIVING, ENCOURAGING OTHERS TO CONTRIBUTE THEIR TIME, TALENTS, AND RESOURCES TO SUPPORT THE GREATER GOOD.

KNOWN FOR HER KINDNESS, RELIABILITY, AND WILLINGNESS TO STEP IN WHEREVER IS NEEDED, CAROL LEADS BY EXAMPLE.

HER STEADY, BEHIND THE SCENES EFFORTS CONTINUE TO STRENGTHEN THE NONPROFIT COMMUNITY AND UPLIFT THOSE AROUND HER.

END QUOTE. AND NOW YOU GET YOUR AWARD. AND THERE'S NICOLE EARL. I'LL QUOTE ONE MORE GESTURE OF SPECIALIST ANGELA JONES RIGHT BEHIND ME, WHO SAID, QUOTE, IN 2016, NICOLE EARL CO-FOUNDED GATHERING HUMANITY, A 100% VOLUNTEER RUN ORGANIZATION.

AFTER SEEING THE NEED TO SUPPORT VULNERABLE REFUGEES DURING RESETTLEMENT.

SINCE THEN, SHE HAS DEVOTED HERSELF TO SERVING NOT ONLY REFUGEES, BUT ALSO INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES THROUGHOUT CHANDLER AND ACROSS ARIZONA.

NICOLE WORKS CLOSELY WITH OVER 30 AGENCIES THAT HELP PEOPLE ESCAPING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, IMPOVERISHED SENIOR CITIZENS, YOUTH AGING OUT OF THE FOSTER SYSTEM, AND PEOPLE COMING OUT OF HOMELESSNESS.

NICOLE INSPIRES OTHERS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WITHIN HER FAITH TO STEP FORWARD AND SERVE HER COMPASSION, LEADERSHIP AND COMMITMENT TO HELPING OTHERS MAKES HER TRULY DESERVING OF THIS RECOGNITION.

END QUOTE. AND THERE YOU GO, NICOLE. I'LL STEP IN FOR A PHOTO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

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ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE AND INVITE UP MISS CHANDLER.

[3. Recognition: Miss Chandler Victoria Vredevoogd]

AND WHERE DO YOU HOPE THIS WILL LEAD YOU? AND INVITING COUNCIL MEMBER POSTON TO JOIN US.

AND SHE HAD RECOMMENDED THIS. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU.

WELL, MY NAME IS VICTORIA RADIVOJ. I HAVE THE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE OF BEING MISS CHANDLER, AND I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN THE CITY, SO IT HAS BEEN AN ABSOLUTE HONOR TO REPRESENT MY HOMETOWN THIS YEAR AND THE CITY OF CHANDLER.

THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE BEEN SO SUPPORTIVE OF ME, NOT ONLY WITH MY COMMUNITY SERVICE INITIATIVE, THE GENDER VIOLENCE PROJECT, WHERE I ADVOCATE FOR SURVIVORS OF GENDER VIOLENCE TO GET THE JUSTICE THAT THEY DESERVE.

BUT ALSO THROUGH MY JOURNEY WITH LAW SCHOOL AND MISS ARIZONA.

AND I COULDN'T BE MORE THANKFUL. SO THANK YOU.

WELL, I JUST I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR COMING IN TODAY.

WE DO HAVE THE CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION. JUST WHEN I FIRST READ ABOUT VICTORIA AND ALL THE WORK THAT YOU WERE DOING, I JUST THOUGHT YOU WERE SUCH A WONDERFUL REPRESENTATIVE OF CHANDLER AND ESPECIALLY THE GENDER VIOLENCE PROJECT.

IT'S IT'S VERY UNIQUE. IT'S ONLY ONE OF THREE IN THE COUNTRY.

I ACTUALLY JUST INTERVIEWED HER ON MY SHOW WOMEN RISE.

AND SO IF YOU WANT TO LEARN ABOUT THAT AND WAYS TO SUPPORT HER, NOT ONLY AS MISS CHANDLER, BUT ALSO FOR THE GENDER VIOLENCE PROJECT AND WHAT SHE'S DOING TO HELP WOMEN AND PEOPLE AT THE UNIVERSITY OR ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY.

YOU CAN WATCH THAT OR REACH OUT TO HER. OTHER THAN THAT, BUT THE BIG THING IS YOU HAVE A SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM COMING UP IN JUNE.

SO WE DEFINITELY, HOPEFULLY WITH MAYOR'S PERMISSION, WE'RE GOING TO INVITE HER BACK AFTER SHE BECOMES MISS ARIZONA AND GOES ON TO REPRESENT US THERE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE APPRECIATED GETTING TO KNOW YOU A LITTLE BIT.

LET ME GIVE YOU THIS, AND WE WISH YOU ALL THE BEST OF LUCK.

WHEN THAT PROGRAM COMES UP IN JUNE AND WE ARE ALL BEHIND YOU.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO A PHOTO. ALL RIGHT.

LET'S GET OVER THIS WAY A LITTLE BIT MORE. THERE YOU GO.

THIS IS MOM.

THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN AN HONOR. ALL RIGHT. AND OUR LAST

[4. Recognition: Chandler Student & Valley Metro Contest Winner - Ruqayyah Gumpal]

SO. RUKIYA. GUMBA. SO I BET RUKIYA. WHEN I WAS THE KEYNOTE SPEAKER AT PARAGON GRADUATION CEREMONY JUST LAST WEEK, AND SHE'S GRADUATING.

AND HOW EXCITING. AND BUT YOU'VE GOTTA THIS IS FOR A SPECIFIC AWARD.

AND LET ME LET COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS TALK ABOUT THAT.

YEAH. SO HERE THERE WAS AN ART CONTEST AMONG THE REGION WHERE ONE STUDENT WILL BE ABLE TO BE PICKED TO SHOW THEIR ART ON A VALLEY METRO BUS THAT WOULD TRAVEL THROUGHOUT THE REGION.

THAT WINNER WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR ART DISPLAYED ON THE BUS, AS WELL AS THEIR NAME AND THEIR SCHOOL THAT THEY REPRESENT.

AND SO KYLE CAME NUMBER WAS THE NUMBER ONE PICK FOR THE ART CONTEST, AND WE ARE SO PROUD OF HER.

SHE'S A CHANDLER HIGH SCHOOL AND WE'RE GLAD THAT SHE'S HERE AS A CHANDLER RESIDENT AS WELL.

SO LET'S GIVE IT UP FOR KYLE. I'M JUST VERY HONORED AND VERY HAPPY THAT I WON. AND THIS WAS AN AMAZING OPPORTUNITY. I WAS ABLE TO GET A RECOMMENDATION LETTER FROM MISS JENNIFER ADAMS FROM TEMPE, AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING TO TAKE MY CAREER.

THIS IS JUST ONE OF MANY THAT'S TO COME. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. LET'S DO A PHOTO.

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MOM.

SHE'LL GIVE IT BACK. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. CONGRATULATIONS.

CONGRATULATIONS. ALL RIGHT. THAT CONCLUDES OUR SCHEDULED PUBLIC APPEARANCES THIS MORNING. THIS EVENING? THAT'S ONLY ONE ITEM. WAS CALLED IN FOR A QUESTION THAT WAS ON ITEM NUMBER 13, THE THE BIRD ORDINANCE.

[ Consent Agenda Items listed on the Consent Agenda may be enacted by one motion and one vote. If a discussion is required by members of the governing body, the item will be removed from the Consent Agenda for discussion and determination will be made if the item will be considered separately.]

[13. Introduction and Tentative Adoption of Ordinance No. 5154, Establishing Criteria for the Keeping or Feeding of Non-Domesticated Birds Move City Council introduce and tentatively adopt Ordinance No. 5154, amending Chapter 30-20 of the Chandler City Code by adding subsection O Prohibited Nuisance – Bird Keeping or Feeding establishing specific criteria under which the keeping or feeding of non-domesticated birds constitutes a prohibited nuisance. Council Focus Area(s):]

BUT I JUST HAD A REALLY QUICK QUESTION IS. SO THE UNDERSTANDING OF THIS IS BASICALLY, PEOPLE CAN CONTINUE TO FEED BIRDS IN THEIR BACKYARD BECAUSE OUR CODE DOES NOT GO INTO PEOPLE'S PRIVATE PLACES.

BUT IF SOMEONE IS SCATTERING BIRD SEED IN PUBLIC SPACES OR, OR OTHER PLACES THAT CREATE A PUBLIC NUISANCE, THIS WOULD THIS WOULD NOT JUST DISCOURAGE THIS, BUT ACCORDING TO THE SERGEANT'S.

MAKE IT ILLEGAL. CORRECT. THROUGH THE MAYOR. YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THOUGHTS ON THIS COUNCIL.

ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL AGAIN, THAT WAS THE ONLY ITEM CALLED IN HERE ON THURSDAY.

WE WILL BE VOTING ON ALL THESE AND DO WANT TO DO? VERY CITY MANAGER. GO AHEAD. MAYOR. I MAY HAVE CREATED SOME CONFUSION TODAY.

I DID NOT REALIZE UNTIL THIS MEETING KICKED OFF THAT WE HAD THAT ONE ITEM HAD BEEN CALLED BACK.

AND SO I THINK I HAVE TOLD AT LEAST ONE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE PULLED IN TODAY, AND THEY DIDN'T NEED TO TAKE IT OFF. SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE, WE CAN HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THAT TOPIC TONIGHT, OR I CAN PUSH IT TILL THURSDAY. BUT THEY ARE HERE AND READY TO PRESENT AND I DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE IT.

I DIDN'T WANT TO DO THIS WITHOUT BEING VERY TRANSPARENT THAT I HAD THOUGHT IT WAS CALLED IN UNTIL WE ACTUALLY SAT DOWN.

SO ON THURSDAY, THERE WILL PROBABLY ALSO BE A DISCUSSION RELATED TO THIS ITEM.

DO YOU THINK, OR IS THERE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT I THINK THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL WANTED TO KNOW IF POLICE AND OR OUR VENDOR COULD ANSWER. AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAN BE HERE ON THURSDAY NIGHT, BUT THEY ARE HERE TONIGHT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I DIDN'T WITH THIS CONFUSION, I DIDN'T LEAVE COUNCIL WITHOUT THE INFORMATION THEY HAD REQUESTED.

ALL RIGHT. SO LET ME TAKE MAYOR'S PREROGATIVE THEN, AND AND LET'S HAVE THEM MAKE A PRESENTATION ON THIS TONIGHT.

SO GREAT. THANK YOU MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. WHO'S UP FOR THE CAMERAS?

[14. Renewal of Fixed Camera Automated License Plate Reader (ALPR) Solution Move City Council approve the renewal of fixed camera automated license plate reader (ALPR) solutions, from Flock Group, Inc., utilizing the City of Tempe Contract No. T21-119-01, in an amount not to exceed $153,400. Council Focus Area(s):]

LET'S SEE IF WE HAVE OUR PRESENTATION UP HERE.

MATT, CAN YOU HELP HER? OKAY. HERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT, SO A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE FLOCK LICENSE PLATE READER CONTRACT.

IN MARCH OF 2023, COUNCIL APPROVED A CONTRACT WITH FLOCK FOR 14 LICENSE PLATE READERS.

WE SAW A LOT OF SUCCESS IN THOSE INITIAL 14. WE CAME BACK IN MAY OF 2025 AND REQUESTED 26 ADDITIONAL CAMERAS.

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WE CHOSE SOME OF THOSE LOCATIONS BASED ON THE INGRESS AND EGRESS TO OUR CITY.

WE FOCUSED ON SOME OF THE HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS.

SO MAJOR THOROUGHFARES LIKE ARIZONA AVENUE, COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS, MAYBE DOWN IN FRONT OF THE MALL ON CHANDLER BOULEVARD.

BUT WE FOCUSED ON SOME OF THE HIGH TRAFFIC WHERE WE SEE THE MOST PEOPLE MOVING WITHIN OUR CITY.

SO THERE'S NO CAMERAS IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.

WE HAVE NONE PLACED TO TARGET ANY SPECIFIC DEMOGRAPHICS OR ANY DIFFERENT COMMUNITY GROUPS WITHIN OUR CITY? IN THE, ON THE SCREEN, THAT IS A PICTURE OF THE CAMERA.

SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S A SMALL CAMERA ON A POLE.

YOU'LL SEE THEM OVER BY SIDEWALKS AND THEY HAVE A SOLAR PANEL ON THEM.

IN THIS PICTURE, YOU CAN SEE WHAT AN ALERT LOOKS LIKE.

SO WHEN WE RECEIVE A NOTIFICATION IN THE REAL TIME OPERATIONS CENTER ABOUT AN ALERT, YOU'LL SEE A PICTURE OF THE VEHICLE.

IT'S A STILL SHOT AND IT HAS A LICENSE PLATE.

AND WE CAN LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE KEY CHARACTERISTICS.

WE WILL SEE ALERTS ON STOLEN VEHICLES, STOLEN LICENSE PLATES, MISSING ENDANGERED WANTED PERSONS, WANTED PERSONS CAN BE THINGS LIKE A SUSPECT ON AN ACTIVE INVESTIGATION OR IT CAN BE A WARRANT FOR AN ARREST, BUT THE SYSTEM CAPTURES DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS.

SO IF IT'S A MAYBE A LICENSE PLATE WITH SOMETHING COVERING IT, WE CAN SEARCH FOR THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE CAN SEARCH FOR BUMPER STICKERS THAT ARE PREDOMINANT.

AND ANY OTHER IDENTIFIABLE IDENTIFIABLE MARKINGS OF FISCAL.

YEAR TO DATE, WE'VE HAD OVER 7600 DIFFERENT ALERTS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH THE SYSTEM JUST FOR CHANDLER.

WHAT WE DO WITH THOSE ALERTS WHEN THEY COME THROUGH IS WE VET THE INFORMATION, SO WE'LL LOOK TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SYSTEM IS GIVING US WHAT WE SEE IN THE PICTURE.

SO WE MAKE SURE A FIVE IS A FIVE AND NOT AN S, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE SOME OF THE LICENSE PLATE STATES ARE CORRECT.

SO SOME OF THOSE LICENSE PLATES LOOK VERY SIMILAR.

SO WE'LL VET THAT THE SYSTEM INFORMATION THAT IT'S COMING THROUGH.

AND THEN THE SECOND PIECE WE DO IS WE VALIDATE THAT THE INFORMATION IS STILL VALID.

SO IF THERE'S A WANTED PERSON, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE STILL WANTED.

SO ALL OF THOSE STEPS ARE TAKEN BEFORE WE TAKE ANY KIND OF ACTION AT ALL.

SO I WANTED TO GIVE A COUPLE OF RECENT EXAMPLES THAT REALLY HIGHLIGHT THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM.

WE RECEIVED A 911 CALL ABOUT A MISSING ELDERLY FEMALE WITH EARLY ONSET DEMENTIA.

THE DAUGHTER REPORTED THAT SHE COULDN'T FIND HER MOM. MOM WAS OUT DRIVING A VEHICLE AND SHE HAD NO WAY TO CALL 911.

SO THE DAUGHTER HAD A GENERAL IDEA OF WHERE SHE MIGHT BE. GAVE US THE VEHICLE DESCRIPTION. WE WERE ABLE TO GO INTO THE FLOCK SYSTEM AND LOCATE MOM. WE DIRECTED OFFICERS TO HER AND SHE WAS FOUND AND REUNITED WITH HER MOM SAFELY.

ON ANOTHER OCCASION, THE REAL TIME OPERATIONS CENTER RECEIVED A FLOCK ALERT OF A WANTED PERSON, AND THEY WERE FROM ANOTHER STATE. THE WARRANT ON THIS PERSON WAS FOR CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN.

THE INFORMATION WAS VERIFIED AS ACCURATE. IT WAS STILL VALID.

WE VERIFIED IT WITH THE OTHER STATE AND THE SUSPECT WAS THEN LOCATED AND ARRESTED.

SO NOTABLE WITH THIS ONE WAS THIS WAS A CHILD PREDATOR THAT CAME FROM OUT OF STATE AND CAME TO OUR COMMUNITY.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO KNOW THIS INFORMATION. THE ONLY REASON WE KNEW THIS INFORMATION WAS BECAUSE OF THIS LICENSE.

LICENSE PLATE READER PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE. SO THOSE ARE TWO EXAMPLES.

BOTH OF THOSE EXAMPLES HAPPENED JUST LAST MONTH, AND THEY WERE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE USE OF THIS TECHNOLOGY.

SO WE ALSO HAVE FLOCK HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO DATA PRIVACY, ANY KIND OF SECURITY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SURE.

I KNOW, I KNOW A QUESTION OUT IN THE COMMUNITY IS WHAT HAPPENS TO THE DATA? HOW SECURE IS IT? WHO OWNS IT? SOMEONE WANT TO ADDRESS THOSE KIND OF CONCERNING QUESTIONS THAT SOMEONE MIGHT WONDER IS THIS IS THIS PUT OUR COMMUNITY AT RISK? OR DOES THERE SOMEONE ELSE, A BAD ACTOR OR, OR ANOTHER GOVERNMENT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO TAKE THIS DATA AND HAVE IT STORE IT OR DO ANYTHING ELSE WITH IT? TELL US ABOUT THAT PROCESS. YEAH, DEFINITELY. MAYOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US TODAY.

BEFORE SHE BEGAN, CAN YOU MARY, CAN YOU BEFORE THEY BEGIN? I'M, I'M TRYING TO KEEP TRACK OF THE PRESENTATION, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR NAME IS OR WHAT THEIR ROLE IS.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER HARRIS. FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS KATIE DAUPHINAIS AND I'M HERE WITH FLOCK SAFETY.

I'M ON THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS TEAM. AND I REPRESENT ARIZONA.

SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.

MAYOR TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. THE CITY OF CHANDLER OWNS 100% OF THEIR DATA, AND THAT STATED VERY CLEARLY IN THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CITY.

WE DON'T MAKE ANY DECISIONS WITH YOUR DATA. WE DON'T SELL YOUR DATA. YOU GUYS OWN 100% OF THE DATA.

THE DATA IS VERY SECURE. IT'S ONE THAT WE ARE JUST COMPLIANT, WHICH IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST STANDARDS TO OWN AGENCY DATA, ESPECIALLY FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT, AS WELL AS SOC2 AND A LITANY OF OTHER COMPLIANCES THAT WE HAVE.

SO WE ARE VERY SECURE IN OUR DATA SECURITY. IS THERE ANY CONCERN? HAVE THERE BEEN ANY BREACHES IN DATA IN WHICH INADVERTENTLY DATA'S GONE WHERE IT SHOULDN'T GO?

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AND IT'S A THREAT WE TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY. JUST KNOWING THIS DAY AND AGE HACKS CAN HAPPEN AT ANY POINT.

AND SO WE TAKE THAT THREAT VERY SERIOUSLY. WE HAVE WORKED WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

THERE'S BEEN SOME CLAIMS ON SOCIAL MEDIA SAYING THAT FLOCK HAS BEEN HACKED. WE'VE PARTNERED WITH THE MIAMI DADE ELECTRONIC CRIMES TASK FORCE, WHICH IS A GOLD STANDARD IN ELECTRIC CRIMES. TO DEBUNK THESE CLAIMS, THEY POSTED TESTIMONY ONLINE SAYING THAT CLAIMS ONLINE THAT FLOCK HAS BEEN HACKED ARE ABSOLUTELY FALSE. IN ADDITION TO BE AHEAD OF POTENTIAL HACKS, WE PARTNERED WITH BISHOP FOX, A CONSULTING FIRM, AND THEY DO PENETRATIVE TESTING ON OUR SYSTEMS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AHEAD AND HAVE THE MOST SECURE SYSTEM POSSIBLE.

AND YOU SAID 7700 CASES OR 7700 CASES IN CHANDLER, THAT OF THE TYPE THAT YOU MENTIONED.

DO WE EVER WORK WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES ON THIS? SO AS DATA SHARED THAT WAY, IF WE HEAR OF SOMETHING GOING ON IN TEMPE, HOW WOULD, HOW WOULD OUR, OUR SYSTEM INTERFACE OR HOW WOULD WE COOPERATE WITH ANOTHER COMMUNITY THROUGH THE MAYOR? YES. WE SHARE OUR DATA WITH OTHER STATE AGENCIES, OTHER LOCAL COUNTY AGENCIES WITHIN THE STATE.

THEY OPT IN AND THEY REQUEST ACCESS OF OUR SYSTEM AND WE HAVE AN APPROVAL PROCESS FOR THAT.

NOW, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN CONCERNING THEN THAT WE OWN THE DATA, BUT WE OTHERS STOP OPT IN AND VICE VERSA? TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT. THE MAYOR. SO WE CAN SEARCH IN A DATABASE FOR ANYONE THAT WE HAVE, ANY AGENCY THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE SYSTEM. BUT WE AS A AS THE CITY OF CHANDLER, WE OWN CHANDLER DATA.

AND SO IT WON'T BE RELEASED. I SHOULDN'T SAY IT WOULDN'T BE RELEASED.

WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RELEASE OF OUR INFORMATION.

SO TELL ME HOW THAT WORKS. PHOENIX. IN AHWATUKEE IS REQUESTING THAT THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON AND THEY REQUEST.

DO WE GIVE THEM ACCESS TO DATA OR DO WE GIVE THEM SPECIFIC POINT INFORMATION ON A PERSON OR DRIVER'S LICENSE THEY REQUEST? BECAUSE AGAIN, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND PUTTING THOSE TWO STATEMENTS TOGETHER? SURE. THROUGH THE MAYOR, WE WILL WE WILL CHOOSE SPECIFICALLY WHAT THEY HAVE, WHAT THEY CAN ACCESS.

SO OFTENTIMES IT WILL BE RELATED TO A CASE. IF WE HAVE A SUSPECT OR A POINT OF INTEREST OR PERSON OF INTEREST, WE CAN CHOOSE TO SHARE THAT WITH ANOTHER AGENCY OR WE CAN CHOOSE NOT TO.

SO IT'S A CASE BY CASE BASIS. THEY WILL STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE SAME DATABASES THAT THEY HAVE NATIONALLY.

SO THE NATIONAL CRIME DATABASES THAT'S ALREADY IN FLOCK.

SO THEY WILL STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION.

IT'S INFORMATION THEY WOULD HAVE ALREADY. SO I THINK I'M UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

SO THEY DON'T HAVE JUST ACCESS TO OUR INFORMATION.

BUT THEY CAN MAKE A REQUEST ON A LICENSE PLATE.

AND WE COULD TRIGGER THAT AS SIMILAR TO OTHER REQUESTS OF THAT 7700.

AND WE WOULD HELP THEM FIND THEM, BUT THEY WOULD ONLY HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

YES. THROUGH THE MAYOR, WE CAN CHOOSE SPECIFICALLY WHAT INFORMATION THAT THEY CAN GIVE.

DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ACCESS CONTROLS AND HOW THAT IS MANAGED IN IN HOUSE? YEAH. LIKE WE LIKE WE SAID, THE CITY OF CHANDLER OWNS 100% OF THEIR DATA.

AND THE SHARING REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY HAVE ARE BASED ON YOUR CITY VALUES.

AND SO WHEN WE ENTER INTO A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY, YOU DECIDE WE WANT TO DO 1 TO 1 SHARING BETWEEN CHANDLER AND TEMPE, OR WE WANT TO DO REGIONAL SHARING IN MARICOPA COUNTY, OR WE WANT TO BE ON THE NATIONAL NETWORK TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE NATIONAL DATABASE.

IT'S TRULY BASED ON THE THE SHARING REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU AS A CITY WANT TO HAVE IN OUR GUARDRAILS ARE IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT THAT'S NOT THERE'S NO BACKDOOR ACCESS FROM ANOTHER STATE THAT YOU DON'T AGREE WITH OR THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A SHARING AGREEMENT WITH TO DO THAT. OKAY.

I THINK I'M ASKING QUESTION FOR OTHERS, BUT I'M GOING TO KEEP ASKING.

SO WITH THAT, AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE A SPECIFIC REQUEST, NOT ACCESS TO OUR DATA TO GO THROUGH BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A NEEDLE IN A HAYSTACK.

WE WOULD HAND THEM, THEY WOULD HAND US THE NEEDLE AND WE WOULD SEARCH AND SEE.

WE WOULDN'T JUST GIVE THEM A HAYSTACK VERSUS INFORMATION.

IS THAT CORRECT? THROUGH THE MAYOR, THEY HAVE GENERAL ACCESS.

SO IT'S LIKE A TIER ONE OF ACCESS TO OUR SYSTEM.

ANYTHING THAT IS DEEPER THAN THAT FIRST TIER, THEY WOULD HAVE TO ASK US SPECIFICALLY FOR OUR INFORMATION.

YEAH. WHAT IS TIER ONE? I'M USING TIER ONE AS A GENERAL STATEMENT.

SO THE BASIC INFORMATION THAT WE SHARE WITH OTHER AGENCIES WITHIN THE STATE WOULD BE THE SAME THINGS THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEARCH IN THE NATIONAL DATABASE. STOLEN VEHICLES, STOLEN LICENSE PLATES, WARRANTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

IF IT'S A SPECIFIC INVESTIGATIONS, MAYBE ONE OF OUR DETECTIVES IS LOOKING AT A A SUSPECT IN SOME KIND OF CASE THAT WOULD BE A HIGHER LEVEL THAT WE

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OKAY. SO AGAIN, THEY WOULD HAVE ACCESS. IF IF A LICENSE PLATE IS TRIGGERED.

THEY WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THAT PHOTO OR INFORMATION, BUT NOT ACCESS TO OUR DATA TO LOOK FOR THAT, TELL ME WHAT I'M SEEING. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M ASKING? THROUGH THE MAYOR'S, THE SPECIFIC DATA OF THE VEHICLE THEY WOULD ALREADY HAVE AS PART OF THE NATIONAL DATABASE.

SO IF YOU IF YOU SEE AN OFFICER THAT HAS MADE A TRAFFIC STOP, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SEARCH THAT SAME CRITERIA ON A TRAFFIC STOP.

THE FLOCK COMPONENT OF THAT IS A PICTURE OF ITS LOCATION.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL. OTHER QUESTIONS, VICE MAYOR.

YES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. FOR OUR DEPARTMENT, WHAT AGENCIES CURRENTLY HAVE ACCESS TO OUR DATA OR TO THOSE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF TIERS THAT YOU SAY? SURE. THROUGH THE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND CNAS.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE SHARING WITH AGENCIES WITHIN THE STATE.

SO LOCAL CITY AGENCIES, WE HAVE COUNTY AGENCIES.

THE CAMPUS POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND STATE AGENCIES.

WE DON'T SHARE OUTSIDE OF THE STATE. OKAY, SO NO FEDERAL AGENCIES OR ANYTHING FBI OR HAS THERE BEEN REQUESTS WE SHARE WITH THE I'M SORRY, THROUGH THE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND SENIORS WE SHARE WITH THE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, BUT WE ARE PART OF A TASK FORCE FOR FUGITIVES ON THAT.

GOT YOU. AND WITH THAT HAS THERE BEEN. DO WE HAVE ANY INTERNAL AUDITS OF THAT DATA ACCESS OR HOW DO WE MONITOR THAT.

MAKING SURE THAT THERE IS NO MISUSE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT GOING ON THERE.

SURE. THROUGH THE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND SENIORS, WE DO 30 DAY AUDITS.

AND WE ALSO HAVE A BUILT IN FLAGGING SYSTEM THAT WILL LET US KNOW CERTAIN CRITERIA.

SO IF A IF A LICENSE PLATE IS QUERIED ONE TOO MANY TIMES FOR DIFFERENT CASES, IT WILL LET US KNOW.

BUT WE DO AUDITS ON THAT AND WE HAVE STRONG POLICY AS WELL.

OKAY, GREAT. GREAT. I THINK THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT HERE.

OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER, ORLANDO AND COUNCIL MEMBER AND COUNCIL MEMBER TEAMS. I MEAN COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS. SO WHAT RELATIONSHIP DO WE HAVE WITH THE MARSHALS OFFICE? THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER, ORLANDO, WE PARTICIPATE IN A TASK FORCE WITH THE MARSHAL'S OFFICE.

AND SO BECAUSE WE WORK WITH THEM DAILY, WE ARE WILLING TO SHARE OUR INFORMATION WITH THEM AS PART OF AN OPERATIONAL DAY TO DAY NEED.

WHAT SPECIFIC THINGS NORMALLY IS A MARSHAL OFFICE ASK FOR? THROUGH THE MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER, ORLANDO, THE FUGITIVES IS PRIMARILY WHAT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY IS.

FUGITIVE. IF THERE'S ANYTHING OUTSIDE THAT THAT PERIMETER, YOU SHARE THE DATA WITH THEM THROUGH THE MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBER. ORLANDO. I AM NOT AWARE THAT WE'VE HAD ANY OF THAT COME UP IN THE PAST, BUT I CAN ASK SOME MORE QUESTIONS AND GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT.

I APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION. SO HOW DO YOU BUILD YOUR FIREWALLS? I CAN HAVE OUR IT TEAM REACH OUT TO YOU DIRECTLY TO GET INTO THE NITTY GRITTY.

BUT WE DO HAVE A LITANY OF ENGINEERS THAT ARE ON THE PROCESS OF BUILDING THE FIREWALLS AND MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, AN AGENCY CAN'T BE SEARCHED WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH.

BUT I CAN GET BACK TO YOU ABOUT MORE SPECIFICS ON HOW THE SPECIFICALLY BUILT. SO YOU ALSO HAVE OBVIOUSLY SECURE FACILITY WEBSITE, THINGS LIKE THAT TO ACCESS INFORMATION. DO YOU HAVE SECURITY LEVELS OF SECURITY ACCESS INFORMATION? SO NO ONE'S PROBING THAT INFORMATION TO GET THE INFORMATION THROUGH THE MAYOR. COUNCILMAN. CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. SO THE THIS CAME UP LAST WEEK AND I DON'T KNOW WHO COULD ACTUALLY ANSWER THIS QUESTION, BUT THE STATE LAW IS CHANGING NEXT YEAR ON USING FLOC.

IS THAT WHAT I HEARD LAST TIME? THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCILMAN ORLANDO.

I KNOW THAT THEY'RE STILL IN SESSION AT THE LEGISLATURE, AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE HAS BEEN NO ALPR BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED OR SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR, BUT WE ARE MONITORING THE SITUATION AS THE LEGISLATURE IS STILL UNDER CONSIDERATION. WHAT IS THAT STATE LAW, YOU KNOW? I KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE BILLS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH. I'M NOT A MEMBER OF THE STATE LEGISLATURE TEAM, BUT I CAN ALSO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CONNECT WITH YOU TO GIVE YOU THE DOWNLOAD ON THAT. WELL YEAH, WHAT I HEARD THAT THE STATE WAS GOING TO CONTROL OR HAD THE LAWS.

I GUESS MY BIG QUESTION HERE IS THIS. I'D RATHER KEEP LOCAL CONTROL THAN HAVE ONE BLANKET OF STATE.

IF THAT'S MY DRUTHERS. SO LET'S GET LET'S GET SOME MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT THOSE STATE LAWS ARE OR THOSE POTENTIAL PROPOSALS ARE AND WHAT WE COULD DO.

I STILL WANT MORE INFORMATION ON THIS, ON THIS MARSHALL STUFF.

AND THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS HOW LONG DO YOU KEEP THIS DATA THROUGH THE MAYOR?

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SO IF THIS IS REAL TIME DATA, WHY DO I NEED TO KEEP IT FOR 30 DAYS THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO.

THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE HAVE INVESTIGATIONS WHERE A DETECTIVE IS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING.

THE REAL TIME OPERATIONS CENTER MAY NOT BE OPEN, OR WE MAY NOT BE AWARE OF A LICENSE PLATE OR A VEHICLE THAT'S INVOLVED IN THE ORIGINAL CASE. AND SO WHEN A DETECTIVE IS ASSIGNED THE CASE, PERHAPS A WEEK LATER OR TWO WEEKS LATER, AND THEY START GATHERING MORE INFORMATION ON THE CASE, THEY MAY GET ADDITIONAL VEHICLE INFORMATION.

AND THAT WOULD BE A TIME WHEN THEY WOULD WANT TO COME BACK AND QUERY THE DATABASE.

THEN WHAT HAPPENS THEN ONCE THE 30 DAYS ARE UP THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, IT IS PURGED. IT'S WHAT PURGED PURGED AUTOMATICALLY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER. POSTON.

THANK YOU. I GOT A COUPLE OF MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED. COULD YOU JUST.

THE ONE QUESTION I DO HAVE FOR YOU IS COULD YOU EXPOUND A LITTLE BIT ON THE PLACEMENT OF THESE CAMERAS AND KIND OF HOW YOU DETERMINE THE, THE NEED OF WHERE YOU'RE PLACING THEM THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER POST.

AND OUR PRIMARY INTEREST WAS IN THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES AND COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS.

WE WORKED WITH OTHER UNITS WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO SEE WHERE OUR CRIME WAS MOST LIKELY TO OCCUR, AND WHERE THE MOST LIKELY THAT WE COULD APPREHEND A CRIMINAL BECAUSE OF VEHICLE SPECIFIC FOLLOW UP INFORMATION THAT WE COULD TRACK DOWN.

SO LIKE I SAID, THE ARIZONA AVENUE IS A HUGE THOROUGHFARE, SO THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC THAT GOES UP AND DOWN THAT ROADS, YOU KNOW, THE ONE MILE INCREMENTS THAT GO ACROSS OUR CITY HIGH TRAFFIC INTERSECTIONS, HIGH COLLISION INTERSECTIONS.

THAT WOULD BE THE HIGH TRAFFIC AND THEN COMMERCIAL. ANYTIME YOU HAVE A COMMERCIAL, YOU HAVE A LOT OF DRAW TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.

AND SO THAT WAS THE REASON WHY WE CHOSE SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS.

THANK YOU. AND THEN DOES OUR DOES I KNOW IN TERMS OF THE CONTRACT YOU SAID AND I APOLOGIZE.

COULD YOU REMIND ME OF YOUR NAME, PLEASE? KATIE. KATIE.

THANK YOU. KATIE. I KNOW THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THE DATA IS CHANDLER'S.

WE HAVE FULL CONTROL OVER THAT. DOES THE CONTRACT INCLUDE A PROVISION THAT THAT DATA CAN'T BE SOLD? YES. IN THE CONTRACT, IT IS STATED THAT THE DATA WILL NOT BE SOLD BY FLOC.

OKAY. AND THEN I'M GOING TO REPEAT A QUESTION BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO BASICALLY JUST UNDERSTAND YOUR ANSWER A LITTLE BIT BETTER IN TERMS OF THAT PRIVACY AND SECURITY.

AND HAVE THERE BEEN ANY BREACHES? AND YOU HAD SAID YOU HAD NEVER BEEN HACKED BEFORE.

WERE THERE ANY OTHER KINDS OF BREACHES? SOME CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD TO ME WERE MORE IN TERMS OF EMPLOYEES AS OPPOSED TO THE FLOC EMPLOYEES, AS OPPOSED TO MAYBE HACKING SPECIFICALLY THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCILWOMAN.

THERE HAVE BEEN NO INSTANCES WHERE FLOC EMPLOYEES CAN ACCESS, FOR EXAMPLE, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ACCESS CHANDLER'S LICENSE PLATE DATA.

IT REQUIRES A VERY HIGH SECURITY CLEARANCE INTERNALLY AND OUR TEAM TO ACCESS VERY SPECIFIC INFORMATION, AND THAT'S PURELY FOR IMPROVING OUR SYSTEMS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT TO SAY, OKAY, WE NOTICED THIS IS HAPPENING. THIS HIGH SECURITY PERSON CAN HELP SOLVE THOSE ISSUES.

BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO, THERE'S NEVER BEEN A FLOCK EMPLOYEE THAT HAS MISUSED THE DATA.

OKAY. AND THEN THIS, THIS, I'M SORRY FOR BOUNCING BACK AND FORTH A LITTLE BIT TOO.

IF THERE WERE A BREACH OF THIS CONTRACT, IF WE WERE TO FIND THAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE TOLD TODAY THAT THERE HAD BECOME A VIOLATION, COULD THAT CONTRACT, WHAT WOULD BE THE REPERCUSSIONS OF THAT? COULD THAT CONTRACT BE CANCELED? WOULD IT CONTINUE ON? DO WE HAVE ANYTHING IN THE CONTRACT THAT SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? AND I IF I MAY INTERJECT ON THIS ONE, I CAN SAY WE HAVE REVIEWED THE CONTRACT AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO TERMINATE AS WELL AS RECOVER DAMAGES AS WELL AS INSURANCE PROTECTIONS AS WELL AS INDEMNIFICATION FROM FLOCK.

SO I CAN ASSURE YOU THE CONTRACT CONTAINS THOSE PROVISIONS TO PROVIDE PROTECTIONS TO THE CITY.

IN THE EVENT WE HAD SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPEN.

OKAY. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. THANKS, COUNCILMEMBER HARRIS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. I THINK. I THINK THE ISSUE I THINK THE ISSUE MORE IMPORTANTLY, I'LL JUST SAY TO THE COMMUNITY, SINCE THEY'RE LISTENING AND WATCHING, I THINK IT'S A PUBLIC TRUST ISSUE.

I THINK THAT'S CLEARLY WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.

WE KNOW THAT THIS IS A TOOL THAT IS USED TO HELP SUPPORT LAW ENFORCEMENT IN REAL TIME CRIME.

WE'VE SEEN THE TOOL HAPPEN IN REAL TIME. WE'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, IT GIVES OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT COVER WHEN THEY GET THERE.

BUT WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS SPECIFICALLY WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT LIKE THE US MARSHALS, THE US MARSHALS ACTUALLY WORKS WITH ICE.

AND SO THAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE.

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US MARSHAL WORKS WITH ICE TO HELP DO ENFORCEMENT TO PUSH BACK AGAINST ISIS CONSISTENTLY HAPPENING.

AND THE PUSHBACK IS JUST THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A PUSHBACK.

WE SEE THE REAL TOOLS THAT'S HAPPENING THAT CAN HAPPEN AND BE A PART.

BUT ALSO U.S. MARSHALS WORK WITH ICE TO DO ENFORCEMENT.

AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME RULES THAT GOVERNS THAT.

BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS AT A DISARRAY, AND IT HAS TO DO WITH PUBLIC TRUST AND LAW ENFORCEMENT.

THAT TRUST HAS TO BE EARNED EVERY DAY. AND I THINK WHAT WE WANT TO HEAR IS, WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO THAT PROTECTION OF OUR RESIDENTS? BECAUSE ICE IS OUT THERE, THEY WORK WITH U.S.

MARSHALS. SO THEY, THEY FIND A NEW WAY TO WORK AROUND THE SYSTEM.

AND YET WE'RE HERE. SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.

ALTHOUGH THE DATA AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS ARE IMPORTANT.

BUT I THINK WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT HOW ARE WE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PROTECTING OUR RESIDENTS FROM ICE, EVEN FOR RESIDENTS. THEY ARE NERVOUS ABOUT ICE AND THEIR RESIDENTS AND CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT TODAY. SO IF YOU CAN GIVE US SOME CLARITY AND SOME COLOR AROUND THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS THE MARSHALS TASK FORCE IS GUIDED TO LOOK FOR VIOLENT OFFENDERS AND FUGITIVES. THAT'S IT. MUCH LIKE THEY ARE PART OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

SO IS THE FBI. SO IS THE CIA. SO IS ICE, AND SO IS BORDER PATROL.

ALTHOUGH I KNOW IT CAN SOUND CONFUSING BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL GOVERNMENT ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.

THEY OPERATE IN SILOS. THE MARSHALS CANNOT QUERY FOR ICE.

THEY CAN ONLY QUERY BASED ON WHAT OUR DETECTIVES ARE WORKING TOWARDS FOR VIOLENT OFFENDERS.

THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE FUGITIVES FROM JUSTICE FOR CRIMINAL COURTS.

THESE ARE NOT ICE DETAINERS. THESE ARE NOT BORDER PATROL CIVIL DETAINERS.

THESE ARE VIOLENT FELONS ALREADY IN THE SYSTEM THAT HAVE WARRANTS FOR THEIR ARREST.

TO THE EXTENT THAT ICE WOULD EVER ASK AND TO BE CLEAR, THEY NEVER HAVE.

AND WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE CITY MANAGER THAT IF ICE WERE EVER TO ASK FOR INFO ON THIS, THIS WOULD BE THE CONVERSATION WE'D HAVE TO HAVE WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY.

AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE A ONE OFF IN THE YEARS THAT WE'VE HAD IT.

I KNOW OF NOT ONE REQUEST. I'M SENSITIVE, CERTAINLY TO THE COMMUNITY FEELING THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER SURVEILLANCE TOOL THAT WE SHARE BROADLY WITH ANYBODY.

I LIKE TO REMIND THE ENTIRE COUNCIL THAT THE CONFIDENTIALITY AROUND LAW ENFORCEMENT SYSTEMS GOES BACK DECADES.

OUR CJIS COMPLIANCE AND AUDITS THAT WE HAVE FOR THAT, WE DO RANDOM AUDITS.

AND NOT ONLY DO THOSE AUDITS VERIFY THAT THOSE CONFIDENTIALITY IS NOT BEING BREACHED, BUT WE ALSO HAVE INQUIRIES THROUGH SUPERVISORS AND ANOTHER A NUMBER OF WAYS. SO WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE, THE CONFUSION OR THE INTERCONNECTIVITY WITH THOSE FEDERAL AGENCIES.

IT'S NOT SHARING WITH ICE. AND IT'S, I WOULD SAY, MISINFORMATION TO BE CONSTRUING THAT THAT INFORMATION IS BEING SHARED WITH ICE AND THEY ARE TAKING ACTION ON IT WHATSOEVER. WELL, AND I THINK THANK YOU, CHIEF, BECAUSE I THINK AND I'M JUST I JUST WANT TO KEEP IT 100%.

I DON'T WANT TO SUGARCOAT ANYTHING. I JUST WANT TO KEEP IT STRAIGHT.

I THINK THE IDEAL THAT ICE HAS AN ABILITY WHERE ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT OR ANYONE WITH THE PROPER INFORMATION CAN GO TO THE WEBSITE AND PUT THE INFORMATION IN.

IT CAN BE AS SIMPLE AS SITTING AT THE JOB, AT THE FLOCK CAMERA JOB, AND THEY'RE SEEING THIS INFORMATION HAPPEN AND THEY'RE ABLE TO ACTUALLY GO INTO THE SYSTEM AND PUT THESE PEOPLE'S INFORMATION THERE. I THINK THAT THAT THAT ALERTS THE COMMUNITY IN A DIFFERENT WAY, WHERE NOW SOMEONE CAN, SOMEONE WHO IS A BAD ACTOR CAN ACTUALLY GO IN AND DO MULTIPLE REPORTING BECAUSE ICE HAS AN OPEN SYSTEM IN WHICH THEY CAN REPORT OR DO INQUIRIES. AND I THINK THAT'S A THAT'S A BIG CONCERN THAT RESIDENTS HAVE WITH HOW NOT NECESSARILY US, BUT THERE COULD BE CONCERN ABOUT FLOCK STAFFING COULD ALSO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

AND I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE THAT'S BEING BROUGHT TO ME THAT PROBABLY, IF WE CAN ADDRESS THAT, THAT WILL HELP OUR COMMUNITY TO HELP US LIKE, HEY, THEY'RE NOT BEING BAD CHARACTERS.

BUT THEN THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IF THEY DO? AND HOW DO WE PROTECT THE RESIDENTS THAT WAY TOO? THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR PERSPECTIVE.

I'D ALSO TELL YOU THAT YOU CANNOT JUST BLINDLY SEARCH IN THE FLOCK SYSTEM.

IT HAS TO BE FOR A LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSE. THAT'S PART OF THE AUDIT TRAIL.

WHEN ANY AGENCY, OUR OWN LOOKS INSIDE THE FLOCK SYSTEM AND SPECIFICALLY LOOKS FOR VEHICLES AND DISTINCTION IMPORTANT HERE, THEY LOOK FOR VEHICLES, NOT PEOPLE. THOSE, THOSE FLOCK CAMERAS ARE TAKING PICTURES OF VEHICLES, NOT PEOPLE. I ALSO LIKE TO JUST, FOR ALL COUNCIL'S AWARENESS KNOW FACIAL RECOGNITION OCCURS.

THIS IS ANOTHER MYTH THAT IS OUT THERE. FLOCK CAMERAS DO NOT RUN FACIAL RECOGNITION ON THESE CAMERAS BECAUSE THEY'RE FOCUSED ON VEHICLES.

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THE AUDITS THAT YOU HEAR ABOUT WHEN THE SAME CAMERA OR THE SAME LICENSE PLATES GET RUNS FOUR OR 5 OR 20 TIMES IN A MONTH, THOSE SET OFF INTERNAL AUDITS ALREADY. THAT'S THAT'S TOO MUCH.

AND THAT'S AN INDICATION THAT EITHER IT'S BEING WORKED BY MULTIPLE DETECTIVES OR IN A WORST CASE SCENARIO, SOMEONE IS USING IT TO TRY AND GET INFORMATION.

I'VE NEVER SEEN EVIDENCE OF THAT YET, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY TELL YOU THAT HISTORICALLY IN THIS PROFESSION, PEOPLE HAVE ABUSED CONFIDENTIALITY. AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THEY'RE TERMINATED.

THEY'RE NO LONGER ALLOWED TO BE A PEACE OFFICER IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA.

THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT REPERCUSSIONS FOR IT. SO WE TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY.

WE UNDERSTAND THE PUBLIC TRUST IS EARNED EVERY SINGLE DAY.

IF THERE'S AN ABUSE, WE WILL ACT SWIFTLY TO TAKE CARE OF IT AND WE WON'T TOLERATE IT HERE.

AND I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE WITHIN INTERNAL WITHIN FLOC, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW FLOC OPERATES THEIR TEAM AND THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO KNOW HOW DO THEY OPERATE TO KEEP EMPLOYEES SAFE, BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE LOOKING AT SENSITIVE INFORMATION.

EVEN A LICENSE PLATE CAN CAN CARRY SOME OF THE MOST SENSITIVE INFORMATION THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT.

PEOPLE JUST BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT THEIR INFORMATION, ALTHOUGH THEY ARE.

THERE IS A COMMON THEME THAT WHEN YOU SHOW UP IN PUBLIC OR WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING IN PUBLIC, YOU LOSE YOUR PRIVACY RIGHTS.

BUT ALSO THEY DON'T WANT THEIR PRIVACY RIGHTS BEING USED IN A WAY THAT PUTS THEM INTO AN INVESTIGATION, OR IT ALLOWS THEM TO ALERT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO DO NOTHING ELSE THAN WHAT IT IS.

SO I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD BE, HOW DOES FLOC INTERNALLY WORK THEIR PROCESS AND PROCEDURES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING PROTECTED.

IRREGARDLESS IRREGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY'VE SEEN, HOW HOW INTERNAL INSIDE OF FLOCK, HOW THEY'RE MAKING SURE THEIR STAFF IS BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE. AND THEN DO WE KNOW IF THEIR STAFF IS BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE? SO THAT WAY THERE'S NO PRIVACY BREAKS THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, I'LL LET KATIE TALK ABOUT THAT SPECIFICALLY, BUT I WOULD JUST SAY THIS FLOCK IS A VENDOR FOR THE LICENSE PLATE READER, MUCH LIKE AXON IS A VENDOR FOR OUR BODY WORN CAMERA.

SO WHEN WE CAPTURE STUFF ON OUR BODY WORN CAMERA, IT IS OUR OWN STUFF THAT ACTS AND CANNOT COME IN AND USE.

SIMILARLY, THE DATA THAT WE COLLECT FROM LICENSE PLATE READERS IS OURS.

ONLY FLOCK DOES NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO COME IN AND DO IT.

SO I THROW THAT AS A REFERENCE, JUST AS IT'S TECHNOLOGY AND A VENDOR AND IT'S OUR DATA.

BUT IF KATIE WANTS TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE, PLEASE DO.

THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS REITERATING WHAT THE CHIEF SAID, THE CITY OF CHANDLER DOES OWN 100% OF THEIR DATA AND THEY USE THE TOOL 100%.

FOR EXAMPLE, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO USE FLOCK SYSTEMS TO LOOK AT CITY OF CHANDLER'S DATA.

THAT'S NOT MY SECURITY REQUIREMENT. AND B, BECAUSE FLOCK DOESN'T USE THE TOOL THE WAY THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT USES THE TOOL.

WE DO HAVE PEOPLE, LIKE I MENTIONED, WHO HAVE SECURITY CLEARANCES, SO THEY CAN WORK WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT ON TROUBLESHOOTING. SAY THERE'S LIKE A, YOU KNOW, DATA ERROR OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A BUG IN THE SYSTEM OR SOMETHING.

WE CAN WORK WITH THEM DIRECTLY, BUT EMPLOYEES AT FLOCK DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE LICENSE PLATE DATA.

OKAY. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION, MAYOR YOU MENTIONED SECURITY CLEARANCE, SO I JUST KIND OF WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S YOUR POLICY AND WHAT'S THE LEVELS OF SECURITY CLEARANCE THAT PEOPLE UNDERGO IF THEY'RE STAFF IN HOUSE FLOCK.

YEAH. I CAN SPEAK TO THE GENERAL HIRING PRACTICES.

WE GO THROUGH BACKGROUND CHECKS, WE GO THROUGH OBVIOUSLY INTERVIEW CLASSES, BUT WE DO STATE BACKGROUND CHECKS THAT ARE DONE BEHIND US.

AS IT GETS HIGHER UP IN THE PROCESS, I CAN TALK TO OUR ENGINEERING TEAM. I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, NOT ON THAT TEAM. SO I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE ON THAT DOCKET, BUT I CAN GET BACK TO YOU WITH THOSE. OKAY.

THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS IS A THIS IS A THIS IS A PUBLIC TRUST CONVERSATION.

IT'S NOT ABOUT DOLLARS TO ME. IT'S ABOUT DO OUR COMMUNITY FEEL SAFE WITH FLOCK TODAY? AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ANSWERING TODAY. AND I THINK ANYONE THAT'S WATCHING THIS CURRENTLY, RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE ASKING THEMSELVES, DO I AGREE WITH FLOCK BEING IN THE COMMUNITY, EVEN THOUGH THE REAL BENEFIT. THERE ARE REAL BENEFITS FOR FLOCK TO SUPPORTING OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT.

AND AS YOU HAVE MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME HELPFUL THINGS THAT HAS HAPPENED.

OBVIOUSLY MUST HELP WITH AMBER ALERTS AND ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT IT DOES HELP OUT WITH.

BUT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ABUSE OF POWER AND THE MISUSE OF IT AND THE PUBLIC TRUST.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, IT MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE YOU THAT THIS IS BEING THIS CONVERSATION IS BEING ELEVATED.

IT COULD JUST BE WHAT THE NATIONAL POLITICS ARE THAT'S ELEVATING THIS CONVERSATION.

SO I THINK THAT THE INFORMATION YOU GAVE TODAY WAS HELPFUL.

IT WILL GIVE US SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, BUT I ALSO HAVE TO WEIGH IN WITH THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND SEE WHERE THEY FEEL WITH THAT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT NECESSARILY I SAY, I'M SAYING THAT YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING INCORRECT OR WE'RE DOING SOMETHING INCORRECT,

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SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO I'VE GOT ANOTHER QUESTION OF THIS AGAIN, I REALIZE IT'S ALL OF OUR GOAL TO MAKE OUR CITY AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE, THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS TRUSTED TO CITIES OF THAT 7700 INQUIRIES, OBVIOUSLY, I DOUBT IF ALL 7700 OF THOSE HAVE BEEN RESOLVED.

PERHAPS THEY JUST DROVE THROUGH CHANDLER AND ARE NOT HERE.

BUT YOU GAVE US A COUPLE STORIES OF. HOW. AS PART OF A REAL TIME CRIME CENTER.

TO ME, THIS IS ONE OF THE BACKBONES OF WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO, USING TECHNOLOGY TO KEEP OUR CITY SAFE.

SO. OF THAT 7700, CAN YOU GIVE US ANY IDEA OF THE RESOLUTION OF THOSE OR.

I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SAY THAT ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN RESOLVED. BUT TELL ME ABOUT THAT THROUGH THE MAYOR.

SO OF THOSE THOSE ARE ALL ALERTS THAT COME THROUGH.

SO SOME OF THEM, WHEN WE VERIFY THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT VALID ANYMORE.

AND SO WE CLEAR THOSE. WE HAVE NO ACTION THAT'S TAKEN ON THOSE.

SO WE'RE WE'RE VETTING THOSE. SO THAT WILL PULL SOME OF THAT NUMBER DOWN.

AND THEN WE WILL ALSO SEE LIKE I MENTIONED, LIKE A ZERO AND A AND AN O MAY BE INTERCHANGEABLE OR THE PLATE MAY NOT BE THE SAME STATE AS WHAT ITS REGISTERING AT.

SO THERE'S STILL A SOFTWARE VERSUS HUMAN VETTING PROCESS.

BUT I WILL SAY I CAN GET YOU THE SPECIFIC STATS THAT WE TRACK BECAUSE WE TRACK ALL STOLEN VEHICLES, STOLEN LICENSE PLATE RECOVERIES, MISSING PEOPLE.

I CAN GET YOU THOSE SPECIFIC NUMBERS. YEAH, MAYBE, MAYBE RATHER THAN LOOKING AT THAT AS A RAW PERCENTAGE IS HOW MANY CASES HAVE, HOW MANY RECOVERIES CASES HAS THIS BEEN HELPFUL? YOU KNOW, PER TIME PERIOD, THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER INDICATION FOR US THROUGH THE MAYOR.

I CAN GET YOU THOSE SPECIFIC NUMBERS. OKAY. MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBER. LYNN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TONIGHT.

MAYOR, THANKS FOR TAKING PREROGATIVE, I APPRECIATE IT. IT'S GOOD INFORMATION TONIGHT. I LEARNED A LOT MORE THAN WE DID A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. WE BRUSHED THIS SUBJECT.

CHIEF, JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW I TRUST YOU, AND I TRUST OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

YOU WENT THROUGH A HIGHLY COMPETITIVE PROCESS TO GET THIS FORCE BACK TO WHERE IT SHOULD BE, AND EVERY OFFICER I'VE SPOKEN TO HAVE TOLD ME THAT EVEN THE ONES WE BROUGHT IN FROM OTHER AGENCIES, THAT THEY ARE WORKING OUT VERY WELL. IT WAS A RIGOROUS EXAMINATION.

WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE THE LATE 90S, WORKING WITH OTHER FEDERAL AGENCIES.

WE HAD THE ROUNDUP, WHICH IS A STAIN IN OUR BACKGROUND.

WE LEARNED A LOT OF LESSONS IN THAT ROUNDUP, AND A LOT OF THOSE LESSONS WERE SHARED WITH OTHER AGENCIES.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT EVEN THOUGH CHANNEL WAS GROUND ZERO IN THE LATE 1990S, WE ARE GROUND ZERO. TO CONTINUE KEEPING THAT PROCESS, MAKE SURE WE USE THE INFORMATION TO GET THE BAD GUYS AND BAD GALS OFF THE STREET.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. CHIEF. THANK YOU. COUNCIL.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? VICE MAYOR. OKAY. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. CHIEF, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS AN IMPACTFUL TOOL THAT OFFICERS USE, AND IT'S BROUGHT GREAT BENEFITS IN KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.

SO FOR ME, IT'S NOT A QUESTION ABOUT HOW OUR DEPARTMENT IS USING THIS.

MY QUESTIONS ARE GOING TO GO MORE TOWARDS KATIE LOCK UP.

KATIE, WHAT CAPABILITIES DO WE HAVE AS A CITY TO ENSURE THAT OUR DATA IS NOT BEING ACCESSED BY ANYONE OUTSIDE OF OF US IN OUR DEPARTMENT? YEAH. YOU CAN DO THE THE DEPARTMENT HAS ACCESS TO AGENCY AUDITS AND THEN AND THEN ORGANIZATIONAL AUDITS.

AND SO AGENCY AUDITS CAN BE EVERY TIME CHANDLER'S DATA IS PULLED FROM A DIFFERENT CITY.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WHY THE SEARCH WAS DONE.

WHAT TYPE OF CASE THE SEARCH WAS DONE FOR OR THE CRIME.

AND SO YOU GET INFORMATION THROUGH THAT. AND WHAT, WHAT OUR AUDITS OR THOSE AUDITS SHOW THAT ONLY CHANDLER USERS WERE ACCESSING THAT. OR WOULD IT SHOW ANY OTHER OUTSIDE USERS THROUGH THE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND IT WOULD SHOW THAT LIKE A DIFFERENT CITY WAS THAT YOU HAVE AN AGENCY SHARING AGREEMENT WITH IT WOULD SAY LIKE, YOU KNOW, CITY OF TEMPE DID A SEARCH ON THE CHANDLER PLATE IN THAT AGENCY AUDIT.

OKAY. AND THEN I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE REPORTS OF HACKERS OTHER USERS AND STUFF, BUT THERE HAS BEEN NATIONWIDE STORIES OF ACTUAL FLOCK

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AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STORIES OUT OF TEXAS OR STORIES OUT OF FLORIDA.

WHAT HAS FLOCK DONE SINCE THEN TO OR LIKE A ROADMAP TO MAKE CHANGES TO MAKE THIS MORE SECURE? WHAT HAVE YOU GUYS DONE THROUGH THE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR? AND WE HAVE TAKEN THOSE REPORTS VERY SERIOUSLY AND SO ENHANCED OUR TOOLS TO ENSURE THAT ANY MISCONDUCT OF THE TOOL AND MISUSE OF THE TOOL IS FLAGGED IMMEDIATELY.

AND SO I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE MISUSE OF THE TOOL AND THE STORIES THAT YOU ARE SEEING ARE FLAGGED BECAUSE OF OUR TRANSPARENT AUDITING SYSTEM.

AND SO WHAT YOU GUYS ALLUDED TO EARLIER ABOUT ANOMALIES IN THE SYSTEM, THE, THE AGENCY ADMINISTRATOR.

THROUGH OUR AUDIT ASSIST TOOL WILL GET FLAGS IF A PLATE IS PULLED FOR, YOU KNOW, SEARCHING FOR REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

ANY SEARCHES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF ANOMALY OF A CASE SYSTEM WILL BE FLAGGED FOR THE OFFICER ADMINISTRATOR AND THEY CAN DISCUSS IT SPECIFICALLY.

THAT OFFICER CAN SEE IF THAT USER WAS TERMINATED, ELIMINATED FROM THAT DEPARTMENT, BUT ENDS UP WORKING IN ANOTHER STATE IN ANOTHER DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT AND AGENCY. HOW ARE YOU GUYS TRACKING IF THAT PERSON HAS ACCESS ONCE AGAIN THROUGH THE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND THAT WOULD BE A SPECIFIC DEPARTMENT REQUIREMENT.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE IF THAT OFFICER IS HIRED AT A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT AND THEY WERE TERMINATED, THAT WOULD, I BELIEVE, SHOW UP IN THEIR EMPLOYMENT HISTORY, AND THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE OTHER AGENCY TO HIRE THEM. I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE OF THAT HAPPENING, THOUGH.

OKAY. SO YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE AN INTERNAL WITHIN FOX SYSTEM TO KIND OF MONITOR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

THEN IT'S JUST BY DEPARTMENTS THROUGH THE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR I CAN DOUBLE CHECK, BUT LIKE WE MENTIONED EARLIER, EVERY AGENCY OWNS THEIR OWN DATA AND HANDLES THEIR OWN AUDITS.

AND SO I WILL DOUBLE CHECK WITH OUR TECHNICAL TEAM AND GET BACK TO YOU.

BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE AGAIN, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'VE EVER SEEN HAPPEN.

GOT YOU. OKAY. KATIE, I DO APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT HERE AND CHATTING WITH US.

THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS, A LOT OF CONCERNS THAT HAVE COME UP FROM OUR COMMUNITIES AND STUFF. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING OUT HERE TO ANSWER ALL THESE QUESTIONS FOR US. AND THANK YOU TO YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME FOR EXPLAINING TO OUR RESIDENTS AS WELL. THANK YOU. THAT'S ENOUGH. ALL RIGHT.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS ANGEL SUMMED IT UP. JUST WANT TO ASK THE CHIEF ONE QUESTION.

WHAT HAPPENS IF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT TEAM. I HEARD FROM FLOCK WHAT HAPPENS IF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT TEAM ACCESSES ACCESSES THE SYSTEM? WHAT HAPPENS IF IT WASN'T FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS LEGITIMATE? WHAT WHAT HAPPENS ON OUR END THROUGH THE MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, ANY BREACH OF CONFIDENTIALITY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE INFORMATION WOULD END UP IN TERMINATION FOR THAT EMPLOYEE.

OKAY. AND THEN MY JUST TO FOLLOW UP, THE. THIS WAS KIND OF CRAZY, BUT IT CAME TO MY DESK.

BOYFRIEND GIRLFRIENDS, FORMER SPOUSES THOSE TYPE OF THINGS ARE OFTEN HAVE BEEN USED IN THE PAST TO SEARCH THE DATABASE TO LOOK FOR INDIVIDUALS LIKE THAT. MAYBE THEY'RE IN A BAD BREAKUP, MAYBE THERE'S A RELATIONSHIP ISSUE GOING ON.

AND IT WAS BROUGHT TO ME THAT SOMETIMES IT'S USED FOR THAT.

I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO KNOW, LIKE, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FROM, FROM US? AND WHAT HAPPENS IF THAT HAPPENS? YEAH. THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER, HARRIS, THAT WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF THE CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE REGARDING THE USE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE INFORMATION, AS I PREVIOUSLY INDICATED, IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN, AND I'VE NOT SEEN THAT HERE, IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN, THOSE EMPLOYEES WOULD BE DEALT WITH UP TO TERMINATION.

TERMINATION WOULD BE SWIFT. SWIFT. THANK YOU.

THANKS, MAYOR. THANK YOU. KATIE. GO AHEAD. THROUGH THE MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBER. HARRIS. WHEN A SEARCH IS CONDUCTED ON A LICENSE PLATE, THERE IS SPECIFIC INFORMATION YOU NEED TO INPUT. YOU CAN'T JUST WILLY NILLY LOOK UP A LICENSE PLATE. YOU HAVE TO PUT THE CASE NUMBER AND OFFENSE TYPE AND OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD INDICATE WHY YOU'RE SEARCHING FOR THAT PLATE.

AND SO I'D IMAGINE IF SOMEONE WAS DOING THAT LOOKING UP AN EX-GIRLFRIEND OR EX-HUSBAND OR WIFE, THEY PROBABLY DO SOME FABRICATION OF THAT AS WELL, WHICH WOULD ALSO LEAD TO A TERMINATION. OKAY.

COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH. HEY, THANK YOU FOR THE COUNCIL GRILL.

YEAH. VERY GOOD. CITY MANAGER, THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED THAT FOR US TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS.

WERE YOU ABLE TO CAPTURE THEM BETWEEN WHAT WAS ASKED TO MAKE SURE WE GET THIS INFORMATION BY THURSDAY? MAYOR. WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THIS INFORMATION IS PROVIDED FROM PD TO YOU GUYS BEFORE THURSDAY.

OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD. ROBUST CONVERSATION. THANK YOU.

WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES OUR MEETING. WE'LL BE VOTING ON THIS EVERYTHING ELSE ON THURSDAY.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.