Mar 23, 2026 City Council Study Session 03/23/2026

MEETING.

MEETING.

UH,

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[ Call to Order]

WELCOME TO THE FEBRUARY 23RD CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION.

CLERK.

I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AGAIN.

PLEASE TAKE THE ROLE.

MAYOR HARTKE HERE.

VICE MAYOR ENCINAS.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER POSTON.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER HAWKINS.

HERE.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO WE HAVE A FEW ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN CALLED IN COUNCIL.

THE FIRST IS BY

[4. Resolution No. 5987, Supporting the Naming of a United States Naval Vessel the USS Chandler Move City Council pass and adopt Resolution No. 5987, supporting the naming of a United States Naval vessel the USS Chandler; and authorizing the Mayor and/or the City Manager to take all action necessary or appropriate to carry out the purposes of this resolution. Council Focus Area(s):]

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, AND SO THIS ITEM, UH, ABOUT THE NAMING OF A MILIT OF A NAVAL, UH, VESSEL.

REALLY THIS ITEM IS, UH, ABOUT GARNERING THE SUPPORT FROM OUR CITY COUNCIL AND OUR CITY LEADERSHIP FOR OUR MILITARY AND VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMISSION TO PURSUE THIS VENTURE.

THERE REALLY IS NO CLEAR CUT PATH, UH, TO PURSUING THIS AS A, AS A, UM, OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY.

BUT THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT AND VERY FORMAL STEP IN THE PROCESS.

WE STARTED WITH A UNANIMOUS VOTE WITH OUR MILITARY AND VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMISSION, OF WHICH I HAVE OUR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR HERE TODAY.

UH, AND THEN THIS IS KIND OF STEP NUMBER TWO, AND GARNERING, UH, OFFICIAL SUPPORT FROM CITY LEADERSHIP FOR OUR COMMISSION, ALONG WITH STAFF TO PUT TOGETHER A PACKAGE, A LETTER TO PRESENT TO THE SECRETARY OF THE NAVY, TO, UH, BASICALLY GET IT ON THE DESK SO THAT WHEN A SHIP IS BEING CONSTRUCTED, THE CITY OF CHANDLER OR THE USS CITY OF CHANDLER WILL BE CONSIDERED THERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO.

UH, GREAT IDEA TO THE COMMITTEE.

GREAT JOB GUYS.

EVEN THOUGH I'M AN AIR FORCE GUY, IT'S .

I'LL VOTE YES FOR THIS.

ALL RIGHT.

'CAUSE I LOVE OUR NAVY GUYS AND GALS.

UM, THE OTHER THING I WOULD ASK US TO DO IS, OBVIOUSLY, CAN YOU GET WHAT OUR GOVERNOR AFFAIRS AND MAKE SURE THEY GET A LETTER TO ALL OF OUR DELEGATION, UH, TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.

ANYONE THAT WE FEEL COULD CHAMPION THIS ON OUR PART.

UM, THAT WAS THE ONLY MISSING THING I DIDN'T SEE IN HERE, BUT I'M ASSUMING YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO DO THAT.

SO, YEAH, WE, WE, UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCILMAN ORLANDO, THAT'S A, A BIG PART OF THIS IS GARNERING SUPPORT LOCALLY AS WELL THROUGH, UM, OUR BUSINESSES THAT ARE HERE LOCALLY.

UM, BUT THIS IS KIND OF STEP NUMBER TWO IN OUR PROCESS, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

GO NAVY, .

ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.

SEEING NONE.

THANK YOU, COREY.

AMAZING.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT ITEM.

UH, CALLED

[12. Purchase of Signage for Uptown Chandler Employment Corridor Move City Council approve the purchase of signage for Uptown Chandler, from YESCO, LLC, utilizing the City of Peoria Contract No. ACON35025, in the amount of $254,393. Council Focus Area(s):]

BY COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO.

ITEM NUMBER 12, PURCHASE OF SIGNAGE FOR UPTOWN CHANDLER EMPLOYMENT CORRIDOR.

MICAH.

MIRANDA, I JUST, MIKE, I JUST, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

OKAY.

UM, DON'T WE ALREADY HAVE SIGNS FOR UPTOWN CHANDLER? ARE THIS REPLACING THEM OR ENHANCING THOSE THROUGH THE MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO.

WE DID HAVE, UM, POLE MOUNTED SIGNS IN THE UPTOWN CORRIDOR.

WE HAVE SINCE REMOVED THAT SIGNAGE IN OUR OKAY.

LOOKING TO REPLACE THAT.

UH, WE LEFT THE HARDWARE UP THERE, BUT THOSE SIGNS WERE BECOMING AGED AND FADED.

AND THIS WAS THE NEXT STEP IN THE MATURITY OF THE EMPLOYMENT CORRIDOR.

SO THESE WILL BE MORE, UH, ROBUST SIGNS THAT LAST LONGER.

YES.

THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER.

THESE ARE GONNA BE VERY, UM, SIMILAR TO THE ONES THAT WE'VE PLACED IN THE AIR PARK AREA WEST.

OH, ACTUALLY MONUMENTS? YES.

OKAY.

WEST CHANDLER EMPLOYMENT COURT.

JUST WATCH THE LINE OF SIGHT .

YES, THEY MOVE THE ONE AT THE AIRPORT A COUPLE TIMES NOW, BUT THAT'S, WE'RE GOOD.

ALRIGHT.

THAT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.

THIS WAS FOR ACTUALLY THE MONUMENTS.

COOL.

CORRECT? YES, SIR.

GREAT.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE.

THANK YOU, MICAH.

OKAY, NEXT ONE.

ITEM

[24. Resolution No. 5971, Pertaining to the Acceptance of a Grant From the State of Arizona through its Department of Public Safety (DPS) in the Amount of $302,598.86 Move City Council pass and adopt Resolution No. 5971, pertaining to the acceptance of funds from the State of Arizona through its Department of Public Safety in the amount of $302,598.86 to support drug trafficking enforcement initiatives and forensic laboratory equipment; and authorize the Chief of Police, as designated by the City Manager, to conduct all negotiations and to execute and submit all documents necessary in connection with such grant. Council Focus Area(s):]

UH, CALLING UP, UH, JASON SAYS, WHISKEY, UH, TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

NOPE.

WHO'S COMING UP? CHIEF GOT THE WRONG NAME IN HERE.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS RESOLUTION IS TO ACCEPT THE AWARD OF A GRANT OF 302,000 FROM THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, FOCUSED ON, UH, THE PURCHASE OF FORENSIC LABORATORY EQUIPMENT AND OUR DRUG TRAFFICKING EFFORTS.

UM, THIS IS GOOD TIMING FOR THE CITY.

UM, WE ARE CONSTRUCTING OR ABOUT TO CONSTRUCT A NEW FORENSIC FACILITY, WHICH IS IN NEED OF UPDATED EQUIPMENT.

WITH THIS GRANT, WE'RE ABLE TO PAY FOR $227,000 WORTH OF NEW EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD'VE INEVITABLY COME THROUGH THE COUNCIL FOR A BUDGET DECISION.

SO, UH, TIMELY FOR US TO BUY A NEW MASS SPECTROMETER.

UM, UH, ANOTHER, UH, TOOL USED TO IDENTIFY ILLICIT DRUGS

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$75,000 OF THIS BUDGET WILL BE USED FOR APPROXIMATELY 800 HOURS OF OVERTIME FOR OUR NARCOTICS DETECTIVES IN THEIR, UH, EFFORTS IN COMBATING DRUGS ON THE STREET.

AND, UM, FOR PERSPECTIVE, IN 2022, OUR NARCOTICS UNIT SEIZED 1.7 MILLION FENTANYL PILLS.

AND 2023, IT WAS 1.8 MILLION PILLS.

2024, WE SEIZED 2.4 MILLION FENTANYL PILLS.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE SEIZED, UM, OVER 40 POUNDS OF COCAINE, OVER A THOUSAND POUNDS OF METH, AND A BUNCH OF OTHER NARCOTICS OFF THE STREETS OF CHANDLER.

SO THIS, UH, IN ADDITION TO 33 FIREARMS FROM THAT TEAM, THIS, UM, GRANT WILL EXPIRE ON JUNE 30TH, 2027.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THAT WAS MY, I'M SORRY, MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

APOLOGIZE.

MAYOR.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED FIRST.

SO THAT WAS MY ORIGINAL QUESTION, IS, UH, DO WE HAVE TO SPEND THIS MONEY IN THAT TIMEFRAME? OKAY.

OTHERWISE IT GOES BACK OR, WELL, I'M SURE WE'LL, WE'LL SPEND IN A TIMEFRAME RIGHT THROUGH THE MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO.

YES.

WE WILL HAVE NO PROBLEM, SHALL WE SAY, BURNING THROUGH THIS IN, UH, IN A YEAR'S TIME.

IT'LL COME OPEN ON JULY 1ST.

IT'S THE FIRST TIME WE'VE APPLIED FOR THE GRANT.

FIRST TIME WE'VE BEEN ACCEPTED.

SO WE'LL JUST, UH, CHECK SIX MONTHS IN AND WAS BY STATUS.

THAT WAS, THANK YOU.

THAT WAS MY SECOND QUESTION.

I BELIEVE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN FROM THIS ORGANIZATION AND AT LEAST WHY I'VE BEEN HERE.

SO CONGRATULATIONS ON YOU AND THE TEAM FOR, UM, BEING CREATIVE AND LOOKING FOR, UH, OTHER WAYS OF, UH, SUBSIDIZING WHAT WE'RE DOING OUT HERE TO THE MAYOR.

THANKS, CHIEF COUNCIL MEMBER.

THANK YOU.

THANKS, COUNCIL.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS? JUST ONE QUESTION.

I MEAN, THEY MENTIONED THAT, UM, UH, CHIEF, JUST, JUST WANT TO KNOW, LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT THE DRUGS AND FENTANYL.

WHERE DOES THAT, WHERE DO YOU THINK THAT'S ALL COMING FROM? UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

UH, THE MAJORITY OF THAT COMES THROUGH MEXICO OVER THE BORDER.

UM, I'M, I, I'M PROBABLY GONNA IMPROPERLY QUOTE THE DEA, UM, BUT IT WAS AL MORE THAN 50% OF ALL FENTANYL SEIZED IN THE UNITED STATES LAST YEAR WAS SEIZED IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA.

SO THERE'S A CORRELATION THERE THROUGH WHAT IS COMING ACROSS THE BORDER.

AND OUR, OUR TEAMS ARE, ARE HELPING IN RIDDING THE STREETS OF THOSE PILLS.

OKAY.

AND WE'RE ABOUT, WHAT, THREE HOURS AWAY FROM THE BORDER, BUT IS LAND IS SOMEHOW HAVE CIRCULATED IN OUR JURISDICTION.

OKAY.

THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

UM, WELL, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO CONTINUE TO KEEP WORKING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING DRUGS OFF THE STREET, SO THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

I GUESS FOR OUR NEXT FEW QUESTIONS, WE HAVE THE ASSISTANT CHIEFS COMING UP.

YEAH.

ASSISTANT CHIEF DENDA FOR THE FIRST ONE, AND THEN ASSISTANT CHIEF SIKOWSKI FOR THE NEXT.

ALRIGHT, SO OUR NEXT ONE

[25. Resolution No. 5989, Pertaining to the agreement between City of Chandler and the State of Arizona regarding Technical Operations Task Force Move City Council pass and adopt Resolution No. 5989, pertaining to the agreement between the City of Chandler and the State of Arizona through the Department of Public Safety to enhance law enforcement services and investigations through the use of electronic surveillance equipment through the cooperative efforts of the parties to this agreement. Council Focus Area(s):]

DEANDRA.

.

GOOD AFTERNOON OR GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UH, SO TONIGHT WE ARE SEEKING COUNCIL APPROVAL FOR AN IGA, UH, FOR A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE CHANDLER POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR A TECHNICAL OPERATIONS TASK FORCE.

SO THE, UH, TECHNICAL OPERATIONS TASK FORCE IS A REGIONAL COLLABORATION, UH, DESIGNED TO PROVIDE SPECIALIZED TECHNICAL INVESTIGATIVE SUPPORT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.

UH, THIS TASK FORCE IS LED BY DP S'S MAJOR CRIMES UNIT, AND IT CURRENTLY INCLUDES DPS AND GILBERT PD, UH, WITH THE PLANNED EXPANSION INTO OTHER EAST VALLEY AGENCIES.

UM, CURRENTLY THE TASK FORCE WILL PROVIDE TECHNICAL SUPPORT FOR ANY HIGH PROFILE OR SENSITIVE INVESTIGATIONS, UH, CRITICAL INCIDENTS THAT RE UH, THAT REQUIRE SOME TYPE OF A TECHNICAL, UH, RESPONSE AND ASSISTING LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES WITH JOINT OPERATIONS.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, ANY TASK FORCE, UH, DETECTIVES ASSIGNED TO THE TEAM WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ADVANCED TRAINING CERTIFICATIONS AND ACCESS TO TECHNICAL EQUIPMENT.

AND ALL OF THAT COMES AT NO COST TO THE CITY OF CHANDLER.

UM, AND THIS ALL OBVIOUSLY ENSURES THAT OUR DETECTIVES REMAIN CURRENT WITH TRAINING AND BEST PRACTICES, ESPECIALLY WITH EVOLVING TECHNOLOGY.

I JUST WANNA PROVIDE YOU JUST WITH A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, BACKGROUND ON OUR CURRENT TEAM.

UH, SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONLY TWO TECHNICAL SURVEILLANCE DETECTIVES THAT SUPPORT OUR ENTIRE DEPARTMENT.

THEY ASSIST WITH ALL CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS REQUIRING ANY TYPE OF TECHNICAL SUPPORT, UH, THAT INCLUDES SUPPORTING ANY SPECIAL EVENTS, LARGE SCALE OPERATIONS, OR RESPONDING TO CRITICAL INCIDENTS.

SO THE DEMAND FOR THEIR SERVICES CONTINUES TO GROW.

SO PARTNERING WITH THE DPS TASK FORCE WOULD DEFINITELY BE A BENEFIT TO CHANDLER, AND I'LL BE WILLING TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

COUNCILOR ORLANDO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, GEE, THIS IS GOOD.

ANOTHER GOOD, GOOD STORY.

HOW DID THIS ORIGINATE? I MEAN, THESE JUST TWO CITIES.

UH,

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UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, UH, WE OFTEN PARTNER WITH DPS ON ANY LARGE SCALE OPERATIONS.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE COLLECTIVELY BEEN WORKING FOR.

AND IT'S BEEN ABOUT TWO YEARS IN THE MAKING.

UH, SO LAST YEAR, UH, OR I'M SORRY, EARLIER THIS YEAR, GILBERT WAS ABLE TO JOIN THE TASK FORCE, AND THAT IS WHEN THEY STARTED REACHING OUT TO US AND TEMPE PD UM, FOR A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT.

THEY SEE THAT, UH, WE BECOME A FORCE MULTIPLIER WHEN WE HAVE, UH, THE, THE AVAILABILITY TO HAVE MULTIPLE AGENCIES INVOLVED IN ONE TASK FORCE.

UM, AND THAT INCLUDES, LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE TRAINING AND THE RESOURCES AND THE SUPPORT THAT WE NEED TO, UM, SUPPORT PUBLIC SAFETY IN EAST VALLEY.

SO YOU, THIS WILL BE HOUSED IN THE TECH CENTER OR SOMETHING, OR WHAT? YES.

IT, THEY, DPS HAS AN OFFSITE FACILITY WHERE THEY WOULD BE HOUSED.

SO IT'LL BE HERE IN CHANDLER.

IT WOULD NOT BE IN CHANDLER.

OH, IT WOULD BE IN THE EAST VALLEY.

IT'D BE EAST VALLEY.

BUT IT'S A, UM, COLLABORATIVE EFFORT.

IT'S OUTSIDE, CORRECT.

GOT, YES.

OKAY.

YEAH.

WELL, IT SOUNDS EXCITING.

ANYTIME WE COULD DO FORCE MULTIPLIER, IT'S ALWAYS BENEFIT TO THE RESIDENTS.

SO THAT'S GREAT NEWS.

AGREED.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

AND NO COST AND NO COST TO US.

NO COST.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S TWO.

EVEN BETTER.

YOU GUYS ARE TWO FOR TWO .

THANKS.

THANK YOU.

ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YEAH.

COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS.

UM, CHIEF, IF A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY ASK ME, WILL THIS COLLABORATION BRING ANY TYPE OF COLLABORATION WITH ICE AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS LIKE THAT? BECAUSE I KNOW WE DO SHARE INFORMATION WITH DIFFERENT GROUPS OF, UH, NATIONAL DEPARTMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WHAT ANSWERS SHOULD I GIVE THEM? YEAH, THE, UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS, UM, THIS SPECIFIC UNIT AND TASK FORCE HAS NO AFFILIATION WITH ICE WHATSOEVER.

THIS IS JUST TO SUPPORT ONGOING INVESTIGATIONS, UH, WHETHER IT'S FOR SPECIAL OPERATIONS OR SPECIAL EVENTS THAT WE HAVE IN LIKE DOWNTOWN CHANDLER OR OTHER, THE OTHER CITY SEES, UH, ANY TYPE OF SENSITIVE INVESTIGATIONS THAT MAYBE OUR UNDERCOVER OPERATIONS ARE WORKING FOR.

THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF, UH, INVESTIGATIONS THAT THIS UNIT PARTICULARLY SUPPORTS.

UH, THIS DOES, THEY DO NOT PARTNER WITH ANY OTHER FEDERAL AGENCIES SPECIFICALLY ICE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING THAT VERY CLEAR FOR US.

APPRECIATE IT.

OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS? UM, YES, JUST WHEN I'M READING THE MEMO, UH, SPECIALIZED RESOURCES SUCH AS CAMERAS AND COMMUNICATION EQUIPMENT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE, UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS? SO, UH, OFTENTIMES I'LL PROVIDE AN EXAMPLE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF SPECIAL EVENTS THAT HAPPEN IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

WE DEPLOY CAMERAS, UM, UH, THEY'RE, WE CALL THEM EVENT CAMERAS IN THOSE AREAS.

AND THIS IS THE TEAM THAT DOES THAT.

THEY'RE BASICALLY THERE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY PURPOSES AS WELL TO KEEP OUR, KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.

SO WE WOULD DEPLOY, THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE WE MIGHT DEPLOY A CAMERA.

UM, FOR THE, THE COMMUNICATION SIDE OF IT, UH, WE HAVE, UH, UNDERCOVER INVESTIGATIVE UNITS THAT UTILIZE UNDERCOVER.

UM, UH, IT'S LIKE A COMMUNICATION KEY THAT THEY MAY USE THAT UNIT ASSISTS WITH EQUIPPING THAT TEAM IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THEM.

YEAH.

UM, JUST, JUST KIND OF LOOKING MORE CLOSELY AT IT, JUST, UM, COMMUNITY MEMBERS CONCERNED ABOUT FACIAL DETECTION SOFTWARE AND LISTEN LARGE RANGE LISTENING DEVICES INTO PEOPLE'S CONVERSATIONS.

UM, CAN YOU, THEY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT WITH THIS, WITH THIS? SO CAN YOU DISCUSS WHAT THAT'S WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IF IT HAS THAT CAPABILITY? OR WILL YOU BE USING THAT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, UM, THESE ARE VERY SPECIFIC INVESTIGATIONS THAT THEY ARE BEING, THEY WOULD BE USED FOR.

UM, THEY ARE NOT LISTENING DEVICES WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO CAPTURE OTHER PEOPLE'S CONVERSATIONS.

IT IS BETWEEN LIKE AN UNDERCOVER OFFICER AND THE TARGET OR THE SUSPECT OF THAT INVESTIGATION.

THAT IS THE, UH, CONVERSATION THAT IS BEING CAPTURED FOR EVIDENTIARY PURPOSES.

AND THEN AS FAR AS THE CAMERAS THAT YOU, UM, THAT YOU SPOKE OF, UM, WE ARE NOT USING THAT CAMERA FOOTAGE FOR A FR UH, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE LOOKING, THAT WE'RE LOOK USING IT FOR.

IT IS MORE FOR EVENT SAFETY OR TO CAPTURE, LET'S SAY WE HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, HIGH CRIME AREA RIGHT NOW WITH OUR, UH, BACKFLOW VALVE THEFTS.

IF WE'RE SEEING IT IN A VERY SPECIFIC AREA, WE CAN DEPLOY THESE CAMERAS IN ORDER TO HOPEFULLY CAPTURE A VEHICLE OR A PERSON LEAVING THAT AREA THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY AS A PERSON OF INTEREST OR A SUSPECT IN THOSE INVESTIGATIONS.

AND JUST, JUST THINKING ABOUT PUBLIC PRIVACY, UM, BECAUSE THE CONCERN WAS ALSO THE, AROUND THE NATURE OF THEM BEING SPY DETECTIVE TYPE CAMERAS TO LIKE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, NEIGHBORS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

YEAH.

THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, UM, THESE CAMERAS ARE ONLY DEPLOYED FOR SPECIFIC INVESTIGATIONS OR FOR OPERATIONAL EVENTS.

THEY ARE NOT BEING DEPLOYED TO SPY ON ANY OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WHATSOEVER.

UM, WE HAVE POLICIES AND REGULATIONS THAT, UH, PREVENT US FROM DOING THAT.

UM, THESE CAMERAS ARE DEPLOYED OR ANYTHING THAT WE'RE USING FROM THIS UNIT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR AN INVESTIGATION WHERE SUSPECTS ARE POTENTIALLY BEING IDENTIFIED OR HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED OR UTILIZING

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OKAY.

THANK THANKS, MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, CHIEF DEANDRE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND LASTLY,

[27. Photo Enforcement Move City Council approve Agreement No. PD5-961-3521, Amendment No. 2, with American Traffic Solutions, Inc., dba Verra Mobility, for photo enforcement, in a total amount not to exceed $1,500,000, for the period of three years, beginning April 1, 2026, through March 31, 2029. Council Focus Area(s):]

MATT, CAN YOU WE'RE GOOD TO GO.

OKAY.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT TO PRESENT ON OUR PHOTO ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS HERE WITHIN THE CITY OF CHANDLER.

AND OUR CONTRACT WITH VERA MOBILITY.

CHANDLER'S PHOTO ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM, UH, BEGAN A CONTINUOUS OPERATION SINCE FEBRUARY OF 2007, WHICH GIVES US NEARLY TWO DECADES OF DATA AND COMMUNITY SAFETY RESULTS.

THE CURRENT AGREEMENT WITH VERA MOBILITY, FORMERLY KNOWN AS AMERICAN TRAFFIC SOLUTIONS, WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER OF 2015 FOR A FIVE YEAR TERM WITH ONE FIVE YEAR EXTENSION.

I APOLOGIZE, I THINK THIS IS A ONE YEAR EXTENSION ON THERE.

UM, BOTH TERMS HAVE BEEN FULLY EXERCISED AT THIS POINT, WHICH IS HOW WE LEAD TO MARCH OF 2026.

TONIGHT'S ACTION REQUIRES OR REQUEST A THREE-YEAR EXTENSION, WHICH IS A MEASURED BRIDGE TO ALLOW ARIZONA'S PHOTO ENFORCEMENT LEGISLATIVE LANDSCAPE TO SETTLE, UM, BEFORE WE MAKE ANY LONG-TERM DECISIONS IN OUR CITY.

THE PROGRAM CURRENTLY COVERS 12 INTERSECTIONS THAT ARE MONITORED BY 17 CAMERAS, UM, ALL ENFORCING BOTH SPEED AND RED LIGHT VIOLATIONS.

UM, IN CHANDLER'S PHILOSOPHY, UM, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN SAFETY OVER PROFIT.

WE AIM TO KEEP THIS PROGRAM AS REVENUE NEUTRAL AS POSSIBLE WITH ANY SURPLUS FUNDS BEING REINVESTED INTO OUR TRAFFIC SAFETY EFFORTS.

HERE'S A MAP, UM, ALONG WITH LOCATIONS OF WHERE THOSE 12 INTERSECTIONS ARE, AS WELL AS THE DIRECTIONS OF THE CAMERAS THAT MONITOR BOTH SPEED AND RED LIGHT WITHIN OUR CITY FOR YOUR REVIEW.

THIS CAN ALSO BE FOUND ON OUR PUBLIC WEBSITE WITHIN THE CITY AND ALSO ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT GOVERNING POLICIES AND FRAMEWORK.

UM, THE PROGRAM OPERATES UNDER ARIZONA REVISED STATUTES AND CHANDLER CITY, UH, REC CITY OF CHANDLER TRAFFIC CODE.

UM, ALL CITATIONS THAT ARE ISSUED ARE CIVIL IN NATURE, AND WE DON'T ISSUE CRIMINAL TRAFFIC CITATIONS THROUGH THE USE OF PHOTO ENFORCEMENT.

AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO IN THE CURRENT CONTRACT INCLUDES A NEW PROVISION UNDER SECTION SEVEN THAT ALLOWS THE VIOLATION FORM TO BE MODIFIED TO COMPLY WITH ANY ARIZONA SUPREME COURT DIRECTIVE THAT MAY ARISE DURING THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

UM, THIS ENSURES OUR PROGRAM ADAPTS QUICKLY AND STAYS NIMBLE TO ANY REGULATORY CHANGES WITHOUT HAVING TO RENEGOTIATE THE CURRENT CONTRACT EXTENSION THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT.

ANY INSTALLATION, RELOCATION, OR REMOVAL OF CAMERAS WILL REQUIRE A WRITTEN MUTUAL AGREEMENT BY BOTH THE CITY AND VERA MOBILITY.

UM, NOT ALLOWING ONE PARTY TO ALTER THIS AGREEMENT AT ANY TIME WITHOUT MUTUAL, UH, I GUESS A MUTUAL AGREEMENT.

UM, AND THEN EXPERT WITNESS TESTIMONY FOR ALL CONTESTED CITATIONS IS PROVIDED BY VERA MOBILITY AT NO ADDITIONAL COST TO THE CITY.

THIS COVERS THINGS SUCH AS ACCURACY, CALIBRATION OF MACHINES, MAINTENANCE AND TECHNICAL OPERATIONS OF THEIR SYSTEM.

DATA OWNERSHIP AND HUMAN REVIEW.

UM, EVERY CITATION IS HUMAN REVIEWED BEFORE IT'S ISSUED BY A TRAINED CHANDLER PD EMPLOYEE.

THESE ARE NOT SWORN OFFICERS, BUT THESE ARE PROFESSIONAL STAFF THAT HAVE BEEN TRAINED BY BOTH OUR VEHICULAR CRIMES UNIT, WHICH PREVIOUSLY DID THIS, DID THIS ROLE, AND ALSO THROUGH VERA MOBILITY TO ENSURE THAT THEY KNOW HOW TO OPERATE THE SYSTEM APPROPRIATELY.

IMAGES AND VIDEO THAT ARE CAPTURED, UM, ARE USED SOLELY FOR TRAFFIC VIOLATION DOCUMENTATION.

AND THE DATA IS PROCESSED BY VERA MOBILITY UNDER STRICT CONTRACTUAL CONTROLS AND IS NOT SHARED WITH ANY THIRD PARTY FOR NON-LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES.

THE PHOTO ENFORCEMENT SYSTEM UNDERGOES A REGULAR CALIBRATION AND PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE AND CORRECTIVE MAINTENANCE.

THESE RECORDS ARE AVAILABLE TO BOTH THE CITY AND USED AS EVIDENCE OF SYSTEM ACCURACY IN ANY CONTESTED CASES, AND THAT RECIPIENTS OF A CITATION HAVE THE RIGHT TO CONTEST THE VIOLATION, AS WITH ANY TRAFFIC CITATION IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA.

AND THE PROGRAM DOES NOT BOOT VEHICLES OR ISSUE ANY WARRANTS.

AGAIN, THIS IS STRICTLY A CIVIL PROCESS.

I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SAFETY OUTCOMES AND PROGRAM EFFECTIVENESS.

UM, SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THIS PROGRAM, WE LOOKED AT A FIVE YEAR, UH, A FIVE YEAR PERIOD FOR THIS PRESENTATION HERE.

AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS THAT IN OUR CAMERA TO INTERSECTIONS IN INTERSECTIONS IN THOSE 12, WITH THOSE 17 CAMERAS, WE'VE DRIVEN DOWN INJURY COLLISIONS BY 37.6% AS COMPARED TO OTHER INTERSECTIONS WITHIN THE CITY.

UH, NON-INJURY COLLISIONS ARE DOWN 9.5%.

AND THEN WHEN YOU COMBINE TRAFFIC ENFORCED RULES WITH OUR OTHER ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS, ON A HOLISTIC LEVEL, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS A FIVE YEAR REDUCTION OF ABOUT 4.2% ACROSS CITYWIDE INTERSECTIONS.

SO WHILE THESE DO TARGET SINGULAR INTERSECTIONS, THERE IS A, A, I GUESS A SPREAD OUT TO THE REST OF THE CITY, WHICH IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT AND IT'S GOOD TO NOTE THAT THAT IS OUR BIGGEST COMPLAINT WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

MOVING ON TO A LITTLE BIT OF FISCAL ACCOUNTABILITY, UM, IN FISCAL YEAR 24 25, WE AIM TO

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AND WE DID GAIN A NET POSITIVE OF ROUGHLY $23,000, UM, WHICH AGAIN IS REINVESTED INTO TRAFFIC SAFETY INITIATIVES.

THESE INCLUDE SIGN BOARDS, THE, UM, RADAR SIGNS THAT LEAD UP TO THOSE INTERSECTIONS, AS WELL AS ENHANCED POLES, SAFETY, OTHER SAFETY MEASURES THAT TRANSLATE INTO BETTER ROADWAY SAFETY.

AND THEN MOVING INTO THE FISCAL IMPACT AND CONTRACT TERMS. THE TOTAL CONTRACT CEILING FOR THIS THREE YEAR EXTENSION IS 1.5 MILLION OVER THREE YEARS, OR 500,000 PER YEAR.

AND THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH OUR PRIOR CONTRACT RATE.

UM, AND THIS IS FUNDED THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND.

IF THE CONTRACT IS TERMINATED FOR CONVENIENCE.

UM, THE CITY COMPENSATES VERA MOBILITY ONLY FOR THE NON AMORTIZED INSTALLATION COSTS, AND WE DO NOT INCUR ANY PUNITIVE TERMINATION FEE.

THE THREE-YEAR TERM, UM, NOT A LONGER EXTENSION WAS DONE INTENTIONALLY.

UM, THIS PROVIDES PROGRAM CONTINUITY WITHOUT LOCKING THE CITY IN.

WHILE ARIZONA'S FOR PHOTO ENFORCEMENT LEGISLATIVE ENVIRONMENT CONTINUES TO EVOLVE.

UM, ALL THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT REMAIN UNCHANGED AND AGAIN, AMENDMENT TWO CONTROLS, UM, IN THE EVENT OF ANY CONFLICT WITH AN ORIGINAL AGREEMENT.

AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL OR CERTAIN MAYOR.

THANK YOU CHIEF.

UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

UM, WHY WE DIDN'T GO OUT AND DID, WHY, WHY ARE WE NOT GOING OUT TO SEE IF THERE'S OTHER COMPETITIVE BID WITH THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT? THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, UH, WE DID.

THERE WAS TWO COMPANIES THAT SUBMITTED.

UM, ONE WAS OUT OF STATE AND WAS NOT, IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ADVANTAGEOUS FOR US.

VERA MOBILITY PROVIDED A MUCH BETTER LEVEL OF CUSTOMER SERVICE AND RESPONSIVENESS AS WELL AS COST FOR THIS CONTRACT, UH, MOVING FORWARD WITH THEM.

BASED ON THE TURBULENT NATURE OF THE LEGISLATURE RIGHT NOW, AS IN, IN REGARDS TO PHOTO ENFORCEMENT, WE FELT IT WAS BETTER TO SIMPLY ASK FOR A CONTRACT EXTENSION OF WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, UM, TO KEEP THAT MOVING FORWARD AND JUST KEEP IT STATUS QUO UNTIL WE CAN GET SOME SORT OF A CONCRETE ANSWER FROM THE STATE AS FAR AS WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THE ABILITY TO LEVERAGE THESE PHOTO ENFORCEMENT TOOLS.

AND WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS OUR ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM AS IT PERTAINS TO THE CONTRACT.

IF IT'S EVER DATA BREACHED BY ANY CHANCE WHERE RESIDENTS INFORMATION ACCIDENTALLY EXPOSED THROUGH A DATA BREACH, UH, I WOULD ACTUALLY, I WOULD LEAN ON, UH, CITY ATTORNEY FOR A GREATER EXPLANATION OF THAT.

HOWEVER, LOOKING AT THE CONTRACT, UM, IT BASICALLY OUTLINES THAT THEY HAVE TO NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY OF ANY BREACH OF DATA.

AND I WOULD LOOK TO CITY ATTORNEY FOR MAYBE FURTHER ON THAT ONE, IF I MAY.

MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, UM, YES, WE HAVE PROVISIONS IN PLACE FOR THAT, INCLUDING INSURANCE COVERAGE, UM, SO THAT IF THERE'S ANY, UM, BREACH THAT RESULTS IN DAMAGES, THEY HAVE TO INDEMNIFY, THEY HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

THEY HAVE TO PAY.

THERE ARE ALSO A NUMBER OF PROTOCOLS THEY HAVE TO FILE FOLLOW THROUGH THE ARIZONA SUPREME COURT TO ENSURE TO THE BEST POSSIBLE EXTENT THEY CAN, THAT THERE WILL BE NO DATA BREACH.

SO WITH THOSE TWO THINGS, PROVIDING PROTECTION, I THINK THE CITY IS AS COVERED AS WE POSSIBLY CAN BE WITH THIS OR ANY OF THE, OF OUR OTHER CONTRACTS THAT DEAL WITH PEOPLE'S PERSONAL DATA.

OKAY.

UM, MY OTHER CONCERNS, BECAUSE A LOT OF RESIDENTS REACH OUT TO ME ABOUT THIS BIG BROTHER ELEMENT THAT'S, THAT HAPPENS WHERE THERE'S CONSTANT BIG BROTHER IN PEOPLE'S BUSINESS.

DOES THESE, DOES THESE DEVICES DO RECORDING OR DO THESE DEVICES, UM, WHEN PEOPLE ARE WALKING, DO THEY PICK UP THAT TYPE OF DATA? DO THEY DO, ARE WE, ARE WE TAKING THAT TYPE OF DATA FROM OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, THESE DEVICES DO VIDEO RECORD.

YOU GET A VIDEO OF THE VIOLATION IF SOMEONE TRIGGERS THE CAMERA.

SO IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE IN THE FRAME AT THAT MOMENT, YES, IT WILL RECORD YOU.

HOWEVER, THEY'RE NOT USED FOR AS, UH, CHIEF DENDA SAID A FR OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.

THESE ARE STRICTLY FOR THE VEHICLE VIOLATION THAT'S BEING OBSERVED.

SO EITHER THE RED LIGHT VIOLATION OR THE SPEED ON GREEN OF 11 MILES PER HOUR OR GREATER THAN THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT.

AND THEN, UM, IN TERMS OF, THIS IS NO QUOTA BASED 'CAUSE I, I NOTICED THAT IT WAS A NET PROFIT 23,000, BUT THIS AIN'T A QUOTA BASED TYPE SYSTEM WHERE RESIDENTS ARE BEING, UM, YOU KNOW, EXERCISE WHERE THERE'S REVENUE BEING PAID TO KEEP THIS THING GOING.

IS IT THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS? NO, SIR, THAT'S NOT TRUE.

UM, THIS IS NOT A QUOTA BASED SYSTEM.

THIS SIMPLY LOOKS AT VIOLATIONS OBSERVED, UM, SUCH AS SPEEDING THROUGH THE INTERSECTION OR VIOLATING THE RED LIGHT.

AND AGAIN, WE AIM TO MAKE IT AS REVENUE NEUTRAL AS POSSIBLE.

UM, THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE CITY'S PHILOSOPHY.

AND IN FACT, WE POST THAT ON OUR WEBSITE JUST TO ENSURE THAT THAT IS THE, THAT IS THE STANDARD THAT WE HOLD.

SO, SO IF SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN, IT'S JUST A COST, IT IS A, IF THEY ARE IN VIOLATION OF THEIR TICKET, THEN IT'S JUST PAYING THE COST OF WHATEVER THAT WOULD'VE BEEN THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS? THAT'S CORRECT.

AS ANY OTHER TRAFFIC CITATION,

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HAVE THIS COMPANY EVER BEEN BREACHED BEFORE THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS? I DO NOT KNOW THAT.

CAN WE FIND OUT THAT INFORMATION? UM, UM, ALSO, I'M KIND OF, I'M LEERY, UM, PROBABLY ON MULTIPLE THINGS.

UM, PROBABLY NOT ALL READY TO TALK ABOUT RIGHT NOW IN THE DIETS IN TERMS OF THIS PARTICULAR COMPANY, US CONTINUING ON WITH THIS PARTICULAR COMPANY.

UM, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE, WE NEED TO, I WANT TO ADDRESS MORE POLICY ISSUES AS IT PERTAINS TO PRIVACY WITH OUR RESIDENTS WITHIN THE CONTRACT.

UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO, UM, LOOK AT THE CONTRACT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSELY CONSIDERING THAT IT IS BEEN IN ACTIVE USE.

BUT NOW I WANT TO SEE, UM, WHAT OTHER COMPANIES THAT WAS OUT THERE FOR US TO BID ON TO POTENTIALLY LOOK AT.

AND THEN ALSO, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE CALIBRATION OF THESE MACHINES, HOW OFTEN ARE THEY BEING CALIBRATED? UM, HOW OFTEN ARE THEY BEING CALIBRATED FOR SPEED THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL REHEARSE? I DON'T KNOW THAT INFORMATION OFF HAND.

WE CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE THAT.

OKAY.

'CAUSE I, I PROBABLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S THE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE ON THE ACTUAL, ON THE ACTUAL 37 SITES AND WHAT TYPE OF MAINTENANCE THEY PROVIDE.

WHAT TYPE OF UPDATES DO THEY GIVE TO YOU GUYS ABOUT WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING? UH, I JUST KIND OF WERE LIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO NOT PUT THIS FORWARD BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE NEED MORE INFORMATION.

I WANNA LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE COMPANY.

UH, I WANNA, I WANNA LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW OUR RESIDENTS PRIVACY IS BEING PROTECTED AND WHAT ARE THE CURRENT PRACTICES SINCE IT'S AN OLD CONTRACT WITH AN EXTENSION.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT PRACTICES ARE, SO IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

UM, LISTEN, I'M ALL FOR GIVING MY LAW ENFORCEMENT TOOLS THAT THEY NEED TO SUCCEED, BUT I'M ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TOOLS I'M GIVING THEM ALIGNS WITH WHAT I FEEL IS GOOD IN SAFETY FOR ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

UM, AND WITH US NOT KNOWING HOW MANY TIMES HAVE THIS COUNTRY BEEN, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE THIS COMPANY BEEN BREACHED? HOW MANY TIMES HAVE THEIR CAMERAS BEEN CALIBRATED OR WHAT'S THEIR MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE ON IT? UM, AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? 'CAUSE LAUREN KNOWS IF, IF, IF THE MACHINE IS NOT CALIBRATED, WE KNOW THAT A A BAD CALIBRATED MACHINE CREATES A BAD READ, WHICH CREATES ANOTHER ISSUE FOR RESIDENTS THAT ARE TRYING TO FIGHT THROUGH AND NAVIGATE, UH, A TICKET.

WHEN THEY'RE SAYING THAT IT, IT DID IT, YOU KNOW, THEY RAN THE LIGHT OR WHATEVER IT MAY HAVE BEEN, BUT THE MACHINE IS NOT CALIBRATED, NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE GIVING TICKETS TO RESIDENTS THAT SHOULDN'T GET A TICKET 'CAUSE THE MACHINE HAD NOT BEEN CALIBRATED.

'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE IS AND ALL THE OTHER DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COMES ALONG WITH IT.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO BRING THAT FORWARD.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THESE QUESTIONS ANSWERED BEFORE WE CONTINUE ON WITH THIS COMPANY.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE IN TERMS OF WHAT IS THE EXIT LANGUAGE FROM THE COMPANY, IF IT THERE IS EXIT LANGUAGE AND WHAT ARE THE PENALTIES FOR THE EXIT LANGUAGE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS AS WELL.

UM, I THINK WE'RE IN A PRETTY INTERESTING TIME AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I'M DOING MY JOB AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING OVER EVERYTHING.

I MEAN, THIS COULD BE THE RIGHT COMPANY.

I JUST DON'T, I JUST DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT WAS VOTED IN A WHILE AGO.

AND WITH THE EXTENSIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, COUNCIL HAS NOT REVISITED THIS CONVERSATION.

WE HAVEN'T REVISITED THE TERMS OF THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT.

UM, WE HAVEN'T REVISITED THE PRIVACY MECHANISMS, THE PROTECTIONS THAT WE HAVE.

I MEAN, PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, I'M, I'M, I, I DON'T WANT OUR COMMUNITY BEING BOGGED DOWN WITH SO MANY DIFFERENT ENFORCEMENT, ENFORCEMENT, THIS, THAT, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, THIS, THIS CAMERA, THIS .

YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS THAT'S GOING ON.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, THAT IS THAT THEIR PRIVACY IS BEING PROTECTED AND IT SAFE.

AND I THINK THAT'S MY MAIN, THAT'S MY MAIN CONCERN.

SO I JUST KIND OF WANT TO GET SOME MORE BACKGROUND, SOME MORE INFORMATION, UM, MORE ABOUT THIS COMPANY, MORE ABOUT THE CONTRACT, MORE ABOUT THOSE THINGS.

AND IF I CAN GET SOME OF THOSE THINGS ANSWERED, I'LL PROBABLY BE IN A BETTER PLACE MAYBE ON THURSDAY.

BUT IF I CANNOT GET THERE, THEN I'M GONNA READDRESS THOSE ISSUES AGAIN AND MAKING SURE THAT WE, WE GET THERE.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE DOING A TERRIBLE JOB NOW.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M CONCLUDING.

WHAT I'M CONCLUDING IS THAT I WANT 'EM TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION, UM, ABOUT THE DETAILS.

THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS.

I WANNA MAKE SURE

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SO, UM, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

I DON'T KNOW, CITY MANAGER IF YOU WANTED TO CHIME IN A LITTLE BIT THERE.

OH, ACTUALLY I WAS BEFORE THE CITY MANAGER.

OH, WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, MAYOR, IF YOU ALL RIGHT.

UM, I MAY BE RECOGNIZED.

HANG ON.

I'M NOT SURE HE IS DONE YET.

ALRIGHT.

DID YOU HAVE ANY WELL, I JUST QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY MANAGER.

YEAH, WELL I JUST KIND OF WANTED HIM TO BE ABLE TO GIMME SOME DIRECTION ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS AND WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE GAME PLAN FOR THIS? FOR WHAT I, JUST FOR MY CONCERNS, I JUST MENTIONED MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS FIRST, UH, I WILL REITERATE THAT THIS CONTRACT WE CAN TERMINATE FOR CONVENIENCE AND WE WOULD ONLY PAY THE UNAMORTIZED AMOUNT.

SO THERE IS NO PENALTY FOR TERMINATING THIS CONTRACT, THIS CONTRACT.

WE COULD, UM, TERMINATE.

I WOULD SAY THAT WE CAN GET YOU, UH, WHATEVER THE, SO WHATEVER THIS INFORMATION WE CAN GET BY THURSDAY, WE WILL GET IT FOR YOU.

UH, IN MY PREVIOUS CAREER I WORKED DIRECTLY WITH THIS COMPANY FOR 19 YEARS.

I DO NOT RECALL EVER ONCE SEEING A DATA BREACH IN THE LAST, SO THAT WOULD MAKE 22 YEARS, UH, BECAUSE THAT WOULD'VE DIRECTLY COME TO ME.

SO I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE HAS BEEN A DATA BREACH, BUT WE CAN ASK THEM OF THAT.

THIS IS A LOCAL COMPANY.

THEY, THEY, THEY'RE, THEY RESIDE IN ARIZONA.

UM, AND THEY HAVE BEEN COMMITTED TO MAKING THE STREETS SAFE DURING THAT TIMEFRAME.

SO WE WILL GET YOU ALL THE INFORMATION WE CAN TO MAKE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS ON THURSDAY.

AND IT WAS, AND ALSO THE, THE PRIVACY ASPECT OF THE COMPANY IS THE PRIVACY OF HOW WE PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS.

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN THAT SWEEPING 'CAUSE? THEY'RE, 'CAUSE THE INFORMATION THAT THEY'RE GETTING FROM THE INFORMATION THAT'S HAPPENED WHEN YOU GO PAST THIS, THIS PHOTO CAM, THERE'S A THIRD PARTY COLLECTING MY RESIDENCE INFORMATION, WHICH IS BEING FILTERED TO ANOTHER THIRD PARTY, WHICH IS THE POLICE STATION, WHICH IS COMING BACK.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT OUR, THE INFORMATION IS GOING BACK OUT TO A DIFFERENT COMPANY AND THEN IT'S COMING BACK IN FILTERED.

AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT INFORMATION THAT'S GOING OUT.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS ALREADY IN-HOUSE.

IT'D BE DIFFERENT IF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT WHAT'S DOING IT IN-HOUSE.

IT'S A THIRD PARTY DOING IT OUTSIDE AND THEN IT'S COMING BACK IN.

SO I'M CONCERNED THAT MY DATA, MY RESIDENT'S INFORMATION IS BEING ARBITRARILY, UH, COLLECTED WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION.

IT'S MINE WHERE I'M TRYING TO GO WITH THIS.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? MAYOR, THAT'S THAT PRIVACY AREA THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

MAYOR COUNCILMAN HARRIS, WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THE ONLY DATA BEING COLLECTED BY THEM AND FORWARDED TO THE CITY IS ON THE PERSON WHO'S ACTUALLY IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW.

WHILE THAT A VIDEO RECORDER IS GOING, THEY DO NOT PROVIDE OR SECURE ANY DATA ABOUT THE OTHER CARS IN THE PICTURE.

THEY ONLY GO WITH THE PICTURE OF THE DRIVER AND THE LICENSE PLATE BEHIND THEM.

THE TWO CAMERAS FOCUS ON ONE'S IN THE FRONT OF THE CAR, ONE IS ON THE BACK OF THE CAR.

YOU MAY SEE IN THE VIDEO, OTHER CARS GOING THROUGH.

BUT THOSE FREEZE FRAMES ONLY COME THROUGH FOR THE ONES THAT WERE DEEMED TO BE A VIOLATION.

OKAY.

WELL, UM, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MY RESIDENTS FEEL SAFE AND THEY FEEL SECURE.

I KNOW THAT WHEN YOU GO OUT INTO THE PUBLIC, THERE'S A REASONABLE OF, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION THAT YOU GIVE UP WHEN YOU GO OUT INTO THE PUBLIC.

I JUST DON'T WANT, UM, I JUST DON'T WANT OUR SYSTEMS THAT WE PAY COLLECTING THEIR INFORMATION ARBITRARILY THROUGH A THIRD PARTY WILL, LIKE A PHOTO CAM OR SOMETHING ELSE.

THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M, AND I WANNA LOOK AT THAT PRIVACY AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE 100% PROTECTED, THAT THIS PARTNERSHIP IS PROTECTED, THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE PROTECTED FROM ANY BAD BEHAVIOR.

AND WE KNOW AI IS A BIG THING NOW.

SO I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THOSE THINGS.

OKAY, THANKS COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU HAD MENTIONED 37, IT'S 12 INTERSECTIONS WITH 17 CAMERAS TOTALLY ON THOSE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU HAD THE, YOU CAUGHT THE RIGHT INFO THERE.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS, THANK YOU, UH, IN LINE OF, UH, WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

MY, MY QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE TO YOU CHIEF ABOUT THIS IS THE SAME COMPANY WE'VE BEEN DOING BUSINESS WITH FOR HOW LONG NOW? 10 YEARS.

YOU'RE THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS, SINCE FEBRUARY OF 2007? CORRECT.

AND SO THROUGH THAT WHOLE PROCESS, WHEN YOU SAID YOU DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY BREACH, MEANING THAT THERE HAS NOT BECAUSE IF THERE WAS, WE WOULD'VE FIND OUT RIGHT THROUGH THE MERIT THERE WERE ANY, WE WOULD'VE FIND OUT.

UM, SECOND IS THE IDEA OF, UH, UNDERSTANDING THIS, THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT IN QUESTION.

THIS IS A CONTRACT THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING THE, THE FIVE YEARS.

SO NOW WE JUST ASKING A PROLONGATION OF IT.

WE ARE NOT STARTING A NEW CONTRACT WITH THIS COMPANY.

WE ARE JUST ADDING ANOTHER THREE YEARS TO IT.

CORRECT.

THROUGH THE MERIT COUNCIL MEMBER ELSE? THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO THIS CONTRACT THEN HAS BEEN WRITTEN, WE VALIDATED THAT CONTRACT ALREADY.

AND THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATION RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE NOT TOLD US THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF CHANGES THAT WERE MADE IN THIS

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IT WAS PRETTY MUCH THE EXISTING CONTRACT.

CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

SO WE ARE LOOKING AT A CONTRACT THAT WE ALREADY HAD FOR FIVE YEARS.

NOW YOU ARE ASKING US TO JUST PUSH ANOTHER THREE YEARS BECAUSE OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE WHOLE THING WITH LEGISLATURE AND ALL THESE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THE CAMERAS THROUGH THE COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS? THAT'S CORRECT.

WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD THIS CONTRACT FOR 10 YEARS.

WE HAD THE FIVE YEAR WITH THE FIVE YEAR EXTENSION.

CORRECT.

AND THIS ADDS ANOTHER THREE YEARS TO IT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

WHICH MEANT THAT WE HAVE SEEN THIS CONTRACT NUMEROUS TIME, UH, IN THE BEGINNING AND THEN ALONG THE WAY.

SO IF I MAY ASK, CHIEF, DO WE, HAVE WE EVER HAD ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS WHO DID NOT HAVE A TICKET WHO WAS NOT IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW CALLING AND SAID THAT THEY TOOK THEIR INFORMATION THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS? UH, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF, NO.

AND IN FACT, IN 2025, UM, WE HAD, IT LOOKS LIKE 11,190, UM, NOTICES OF VIOLATION LEGISLATION MOVED MY NAME FROM THAT LIST BECAUSE I THINK I, THEY GOT, THEY CAUGHT ME ON, UH, MARK QUEEN AND QUEEN CREEK.

.

.

REMOVE MY NAME FROM THAT ONE.

THANKS FOR LETTING US KNOW .

SO GO AHEAD.

THOSE NOTICES OF VIOLATION, UM, THOSE ARE FOR VEHICLES THAT MAYBE AREN'T BEING DRIVEN BY THE REGISTERED OWNER.

OKAY.

SO OUR STAFF VERIFY THEY LOOK AT WHO'S DRIVING THAT VEHICLE AND IF IT DOESN'T MATCH WHO OR DOESN'T MATCH WHO OWNS THAT VEHICLE, THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEND WHAT THEY CALL A NOTICE OF VIOLATION, WHICH IS BASICALLY A WRITTEN WARNING, HEY, YOUR VEHICLE WAS OBSERVED SPEEDING OR RUNNING THE RED LIGHT.

UM, WE DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS YOU DRIVING.

WE JUST WANNA MAKE YOU AWARE OF IT.

THERE'S NO ACTION NEEDED AT THIS TIME, BUT IT'S JUST HOW WE ENSURE THAT WE'RE ISSUING CITATIONS TO THE APPROPRIATE INDIVIDUALS.

CORRECT.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THAT THAT MAKES IT REALLY CLEAR FOR ME WHETHER WHERE IT, THE CONTRACT ORIGINATED, HOW LONG WE'VE BEEN WITHIN THE CONTRACT, AND WHAT THE CONTRACT IS GONNA CONTINUE TO DO FOR US HERE IN THE CITY.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER POSTON THEN COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR THIS.

UM, I HAD A QUESTION.

IS THERE, COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT HAPPENS AND MAYBE THE PRICE OF A TICKET, THE COST OF A TICKET IF THEY GET IT THROUGH THE RED LIGHT CAMERA VERSUS IF THEY WERE, IF A RESIDENT WERE PULLED OVER BY AN OFFICER FOR THE SAME VIOLATION, IS THE COST OF THE TICKET THE SAME AND MAYBE ALSO IS THE PROCESS TO GO THROUGH AND ADDRESS THAT TICKET THE SAME AS WELL THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER POST IT? I WOULD LOOK TO JUDGE SCEN FOR MAYBE FURTHER ON THAT.

MM-HMM .

I DO BELIEVE THE FINE SCHEDULE IS THE SAME.

OKAY.

UM, BUT SHE COULD SPEAK MORE TO THE COURT PROCESS ONCE IT, ONCE IT LEAVES THE PHOTO CITATION AND GETS INTO THE ACTUAL COURT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

TO THE MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER POSTON, THE FINES ARE EXACTLY THE SAME.

IN FACT, I WANTED TO REITERATE TO COUNSEL THAT THE FINES WILL NOT BE CHANGING FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

UH, THE FINES HAVE REMAINED THE SAME FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS.

AND SO WHETHER YOU GET A TICKET IN PERSON BY AN OFFICER PULLING YOU OVER OR THROUGH THE PHOTO ENFORCEMENT SYSTEM, THEY'RE EXACTLY THE SAME.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN LANDER? UM, YES.

SO YOU'VE ANSWERED A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

UH, COUNCILMAN ELLIS.

UM, THE OTHER QUESTION, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BACK IN 2007, UM, WAS THE AMOUNT OF OFFICERS IT WOULD TAKE FOR US TO DO THE SAME TYPE OF CONTROL WITH OUR CITY EXPANDING SO MUCH SIT THEN I WOULD HATE TO, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO VENTURE ON HOW MANY OFFICERS WE WOULD NEED TO ADDITIONAL OFFICERS JUST TO DO TRAFFIC CONTROL, TO BE ABLE TO WHAT, WHAT UTILIZING THIS TECHNOLOGY, UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, PROBABLY IN THE HUNDREDS OF NEW OFFICERS, UM, THESE PHOTOS HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF CAPTURING REPEATED, REPEATED VIOLATIONS AT AN INTERSECTION.

WHEREAS ONE OFFICER MAY PULL A CAR OVER THAT'S A FIVE MINUTE THAT THEY'RE OFF THE ROAD TO STOP THE CAR, ISSUE THE CITATION, PRINT IT OUT, REISSUE IT TO THE DRIVER, GET THE DRIVER SAFELY BACK ON THE ROAD, AND THEN CONTINUE ON WITH THEIR DAY.

UH, THESE CAN CONTINUALLY PHOTOGRAPH THE INTERSECTION IF THERE'S MULTIPLE VIOLATIONS OCCURRING BACK TO BACK.

UM, THAT'S WHERE THESE BECOME EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL.

SO EVEN IF WE CUT THAT IN HALF, I WOULD STILL BE, IF I WAS GONNA HIRE OFFICERS TODAY, I WOULD LOVE THEM TO BE LOOKING AT CYBER CRIME.

UM, YOU KNOW, UH, CRIMES AGAINST OUR SOCIETY, UM, YOU KNOW, SEXUAL ASSAULT, RAPE, ALL THE OTHER ASSAULT TYPE OF ACTIVITIES.

THEN TO BE LOOKING AT TRAFFIC CONTROL, IT'S IMPORTANT.

OBVIOUSLY TRAFFIC CONTROL, IT'S IMPORTANT.

WE ANSWERED THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT SEC UH, SECURITY AND UM, BREACH OF, BREACH OF INFORMATION AND IT WAS IMPORTANT.

UM, BUT AGAIN, I ALSO LOOK AT THIS TECHNOLOGY IS WHAT WE'RE, AS A CITY HAS BEEN KNOWN FOR INNOVATION AND FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND SAY, NEED 50 OFFICERS OR A HUNDRED OFFICERS IN YOUR MIND, UM, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

THIS IS A GOOD TOOL TO BE USING AND AS YOU, IT WORKS, THERE'S SAFETY.

WE, WE'VE SEEN THE NUMBERS GO DOWN AND LET'S BE HONEST, THE INSURANCE

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AND SO THE LESS ACCIDENTS YOU HAVE, OBVIOUSLY IN THE REGION OR STOLEN VEHICLES, THAT TYPE OF STUFF, WHICH WE NEED OFFICERS TO INVESTIGATE, UM, THAT DRIVES YOUR INSURANCE COSTS UP.

SO IF WE'RE SHOWING IN A SAFE COMMUNITY, POTENTIALLY OUR INSURANCE RATES SHOULD NOT BE A CHANGE AS MUCH AS, AND MAYBE ANOTHER COMMUNITY THAT HAS LESS TRAFFIC CONTROL.

SO THOSE, THOSE ARE THINGS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT AS A FACTOR AS WELL.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

MAYOR.

MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

YEAH, I JUST WANNA MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

UM, I'M, I'M ADDRESSING, I APPRECIATE WHAT MY COLLEAGUES IS SAYING, BUT I'M ADDRESSING TERMS IN A CONTRACT.

I'M ADDRESSING LANGUAGE IN A CONTRACT AND I'M ADDRESSING PRIVACY AND PROTECTION THAT'S IN A CONTRACT, NOT DELIVERY OF SERVICE, NOT WHAT IT DOES.

UM, AND NOT WHAT IT OVERALL PROVIDE, WHICH IS ALLOWING LAW ENFORCEMENT THIS GIVEN A LAW ENFORCEMENT ANOTHER TOOL SO THAT WAY THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, TRACKING PEOPLE DOWN, SEEING WHO'S SPEEDING, WHO'S NOT, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.