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HELLO, I'D LIKE TO CALL TO HONOR THE MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION, UH, FEBRUARY 23RD, 2026.
WE'VE HAD, UM, A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN CALLED IN, AND IF FOR SOME REASON I, I MISSED THE FACT THAT YOU RECEIVED YOUR INFORMATION, WE'LL JUST MOVE ON.
[16. Purchase of Fire Emergency Medical Supplies Move City Council approve Agreement No. FD4-345-4690, Amendment No. 4, with Bound Tree Medical, LLC, for fire emergency medical supplies, in an amount not to exceed $1,000,000, for a one-year period, April 1, 2026, through March 31, 2027. Council Focus Area(s):]
BUT THE FIRST ONE NOW IN FRONT OF ME IS ITEM NUMBER 16, THE PURCHASE OF FIRE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SUPPLIES.UH, AND, UH, ASSISTANT CHIEF KEITH HARGIS IS GOING TO COME UP.
AND THIS IS FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, US MAYOR COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS, UH, AGENDA ITEM AS WELL AS OUR, UM, AMBULANCE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES, UM, WHICH THIS ITEM IS TIED TO.
SO THIS ITEM THAT'S BEFORE YOU IS A, IS A PURCHASING CONTRACT FOR EMS SUPPLIES.
UM, IT IS LARGER THAN WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST, AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE AMBULANCE TRANSPORTATION SERVICE SYSTEM THAT WE ARE RAMPING UP.
UM, SO THE LARGE, A LARGE PART OF THIS, UM, THIS ITEM INCLUDES FUNDING FOR STOCKING THE AMBULANCES, UM, AS WELL AS ONGOING SUPPLIES TO INITIATE OUR SERVICE FOR THE FIRST SIX MONTHS.
AND SO I KNOW THE FOLLOW UP QUESTION, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS WAS IN REGARDS TO WHERE WE ARE WITH THE AMBULANCE, UH, SERVICE RIGHT NOW.
AND I CAN SAY, UM, BEFORE I BRIEF YOU GUYS, FIRST, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE SUPPORT TAKING ON A PROJECT THIS SIGNIFICANT.
UM, AND STRUCTURALLY, UH, CHANGING THE FACE OF HOW WE DELIVER, UM, EMERGENCY MEDICAL CARE AND OUR COMMUNITY AND REALLY, UH, STABILIZING THAT CARE FOR OUR RESIDENTS IS, UM, INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT, UH, TO MYSELF, TO CHIEF WIGGINS AND OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.
I THINK IT PUTS OUR RESIDENTS IN A GREAT POSITION, UM, AND SECURES THAT ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, AND OF COURSE ALL OF OUR STAFF AND THE DEPARTMENT, UM, HAVE PUT IN A LOT OF WORK.
SO WE ARE, UM, FULL SPEED AHEAD, ALL HANDS ON DECK.
UM, WE ARE TAKING A, A MULTIFACETED APPROACH.
REALLY, IT INVOLVES TRAINING OUR MEMBERS.
UM, ONE THING IS WE'RE UNIQUELY SET UP TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THIS BUSINESS BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN DOING, UH, AMBULANCE OPERATIONS FOR A LONG TIME.
WE'VE NEVER BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BUSINESS.
AND, UH, HOW WE'VE DONE THAT IS WE ARE NOT ONLY TRAINING OUR MEMBERS, BUT WE ALSO HIRED, UM, SOME EXPERTS.
WE HAVE AN AMBULANCE TRANSPORTATION MANAGER NOW FOR THE CITY OF CHANDLER.
UM, WE HAVE A AMBULANCE TRANSPORTATION ANALYST.
BOTH OF THEM, UM, HAVE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE ON THE BUSINESS SIDE OF THIS, WHICH WILL BE EXCELLENT FOR US.
AND, AND WE'VE ALREADY LEARNED MUCH, UM, FROM THESE INDIVIDUALS.
NOW WE HAVE 12 FIREFIGHTERS THAT ARE IN THE FIRE ACADEMY RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT WE ARE ALSO GATHERING RESOURCES.
YOU CAN SEE ON THE AGENDA ITEM AS WELL.
WE HAVE SOME OTHER PURCHASING FOR CARDIAC MONITORS RELATED TO THE AMBULANCE.
WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE RADIOS ON THIS AGENDA ITEM FOR THE AMBULANCE.
YOU'LL SEE IN THE FUTURE, UM, A CONTRACT FOR BILLING SERVICES AS WE LOOK TO ESTABLISH HOW WE'RE GOING TO RUN THAT BUSINESS AND RECEIVE REVENUES.
UM, WE ARE LOOKING AT ADDING EQUIPMENT LIKE OUR AMBULANCES.
FIRST ONE IS, IS SCHEDULED FOR MARCH.
WE HAVE THEM COMING IN BATCHES OF THREE IN MAY OR JUNE, JUNE, JULY, AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER.
SO WE SHOULD HAVE ALL 10 OF OUR AMBULANCES BY SEPTEMBER.
AND, UH, WE WILL BE READY TO, UH, TO DELIVER THIS IMPORTANT SERVICE STARTING IN JANUARY OF 27.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, UM, CHIEF AND THANK YOU CHIEF.
I'M, I'M SO GLAD THAT THIS ITEM IS LIKE REALLY MOVING FORWARD AND COMING FORWARD.
I FEEL LIKE IT WAS IN THE DUNGEON OF GREAT IDEALS AND NOW IT'S OUT IN THE LIGHT WHERE IT CAN REALLY GROW AND PROSPER.
AND I WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE THE RESIDENTS KIND OF AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE THAT WE'RE CREATING THIS AMAZING LIFE SAVING TOOL THAT WE ALREADY KIND OF HAVE, BUT WE USE IT THROUGH A THIRD PARTY.
AND, UM, NOW WE GET TO TAKE IT IN-HOUSE AND GIVE OUR CUSTOMERS, OUR RESIDENTS, BASICALLY, UM, UH, A CLASS A SERVICE THEY ALREADY GET.
BUT I, I'M GONNA CALL IT THE AAA CLASS SERVICE THAT WE GET BECAUSE WE GET TO BRING IT INSIDE HOUSE.
WE GET TO CONTROL THE ENVIRONMENT, AND WE ALSO GET TO BE A PART OF THE LIFESAVING PROCEDURES.
AND, AND I, I KNOW THAT MANY RESIDENTS AND PROBABLY PEOPLE ON COUNCIL HAVE GREAT EXPERIENCES WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE YOU GUYS TRULY ARE COMMITTED TO SAVING PEOPLE'S LIVES AND MAKING SURE THAT, UM, PEOPLE DURING THEIR TIME, YOU GET TO SEE PEOPLE AT THEIR WORST MOMENT.
AND, UM, BUT YOU'RE TRYING TO BE THERE TO BE THEIR HEALER TO HELP SUPPORT THEM THROUGH.
AND, AND I CAN JUST REMEMBER A TIME WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH, UH, COVID AND SO MANY PEOPLE WERE ILL AND SICK AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND, AND THROUGH ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS WHERE IT REALLY DOES MATTER WHEN OUR COMMUNITY
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IS, IS THAT, SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO BRING THIS OUT.SO OUR RESIDENTS, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF, WE HAVE A AGING COMMUNITY TOO.
I KNOW, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS WORKS A LOT IN THAT COMMUNITY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND I KNOW THAT SHE CARES JUST AS MUCH ABOUT THIS AS I DO, BUT, AND ALL THE COUNCIL DOES, UM, MARY AND COUNCIL DOES, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY GOOD JOB.
I CAN'T WAIT TILL WE GET ACROSS THE FINISH LINE TO GET THE, UM, TO GET THE FIRST, TO SEND THE FIRST AMBULANCE OFF, AS THEY SAY, WE'RE SENDING YOU OFF TO THE WORLD.
SO I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.
AND I AM KIND OF GLAD THAT, UM, OUR TRAINING FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE CROSSTRAINED, THEY'RE CROSS TRAINED FIREFIGHTERS AND PARAMEDICS, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, YES.
SO WILL WE BE, UM, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, AND THIS IS WHERE I'M GONNA LAND THE PLANE AT, UM, CAN YOU JUST KIND OF GIVE US SOME OF THE BACKGROUND OF WHAT OUR PARAMEDICS WILL NOW BE TRAINED TO BE ABLE TO DO? YOU DON'T GOTTA GIVE EVERYTHING, BUT JUST GIVE A COUPLE THINGS THAT THEY'RE GONNA DO.
SO, SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AT LEAST TWO PARAMEDICS ON EVERY FIRE TRUCK.
UM, WE ALSO STAFF THE AMBULANCES THAT ARE OPERATING IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW.
UM, THE AMBULANCES ARE OWNED BY A THIRD PARTY, AND WE HAVE A, A PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP WITH THAT VENDOR.
THEY PROVIDE THE AMBULANCE AND THE DRIVER, THE EMT DRIVER.
WE PROVIDE THE FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CARE, THE MEDICATIONS, AND, UH, AND MANAGING THAT PATIENT ALL THE WAY TO DEFINITIVE CARE.
UM, WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE WILL TAKE OVER THE FRONT SEAT PORTION AS WELL, AS WELL AS THE VEHICLE ITSELF.
UM, WE WILL CONTROL ALL THE OPERATIONS.
OUR PARAMEDICS RIGHT NOW ARE TRAINED IN AMBULANCE OPERATIONS, BUT OUR EMTS AREN'T RESPONSIBLE FOR DRIVING AND OPERATING THOSE.
UM, SO WE HAVE SOME TRAINING TO DO THERE.
WE ALSO HAVE SOME RAMP UP TRAINING TO DO WITH DOCUMENTATION, BUT I KNOW WHEN WE'RE DONE.
UM, AND I APPRECIATE THOSE WORDS THAT, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT AND HAVE WORKED ON OUR ENTIRE CAREERS BECAUSE IT'S SO IMPORTANT.
AND HAVING THAT TRANSPORTATION AND ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION WHEN YOU NEED IT, UM, WE CAN'T DO IT IN A FIRETRUCK.
UH, WE NEED THIS, THIS VEHICLE TO DELIVER, UM, PEOPLE FROM WHERE WE FIND THEM TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO, AND WE WANT TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE THE BEST CARE OF THEM THROUGH THE TIME.
AND IT ALLOWS US TO BE NIMBLE.
IT ALLOWS US TO RESPOND TO THE COMMUNITY.
IT ALLOWS US, UM, TO DELIVER THE ABSOLUTE BEST SERVICE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO DO.
AND, UH, AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO DO THIS AS WELL.
I'M GLAD TO BE ABLE TO BE A PARTNER AND SUPPORTING THIS EFFORT.
UM, AND I, I'M GLAD I'M, I'M GLAD ABOUT IT.
UM, JUST TO COMMENT FROM ME OR AN AFFIRMING QUESTION IS THAT WE'RE NOT ONLY OFFERING, UH, UH, A BETTER SERVICE THAT WE CAN BEST TAKE CARE OF OUR RESIDENTS, BUT WITH THE AMBULANCES THAT THIS WILL BE AN ENTERPRISE ZONE, THAT EVEN STARTING WITH THESE EXPENSES, THERE WILL BE WITH THE ADDITIONAL REVENUES THAT WILL COME IN FROM CARRIES THAT WILL, THE INTENTION IS TO BE ABLE TO ALSO COVER THIS ADDITIONAL AMENITY TO OUR COMMUNITY, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, MAYOR.
UH, WE'RE PROJECTING THAT, UH, THIS IS SELF-SUSTAINING ENTERPRISE FUND AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO, TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY WITH GROWTH AS IT GOES.
UM, AND, AND I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A, A GREAT VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY FOR, FOR WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE OFFERING.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR KEVINS THANK YOU.
[18. Purchase of Customer Engagement Portal and Relationship Management Software Move City Council approve Agreement No. 4577, Amendment No. 1, with N. Harris Computer Corporation, for the implementation of Infinity CIS Version 5, to include the customer engagement portal and Solid Waste relationship management software, in an amount not to exceed $1,095,512. Council Focus Area(s):]
UH, I'M SORRY, ITEM NUMBER 18 BY COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, THE PURCHASE OF CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT PORTAL AND RELATIONSHIP MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE.GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M AN AN APPLICATIONS MANAGER WITHIN THE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT HERE AT THE CITY.
I'M HERE TO PRESENT ON THE PURCHASE OF CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT PORTAL AND RELATIONSHIP MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE.
THE CITY'S CURRENT INTERNAL UTILITY BILLING SYSTEM, CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT PORTAL, AND FIELD WORK ORDER SYSTEMS WERE ORIGINALLY IMPLEMENTED IN JULY OF 2014.
IN 2023, STAFF BEGAN EVALUATING AND PLANNING A COMPREHENSIVE UPGRADE OF THESE SYSTEMS, TRANSITIONING FROM ON-PREMISE SOFTWARE TO MODERN CLOUD-BASED SOLUTIONS.
THIS SHIFT IS INTENDED TO IMPROVE SYSTEM RELIABILITY, SECURITY, AND LONG-TERM SCALABILITY.
IN 2025, WE BEGAN CONFIGURING AND TESTING THE UPGRADED INTERNAL UTILITY BILLING SYSTEM TO ENSURE FUNCTIONALITY AND OPERATIONAL READINESS.
IN 2026, STAFF WILL FOCUS ON CONFIGURING AND TESTING THE FIELD WORK, ORDER SYSTEM, AND CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT PORTAL APPLICATIONS.
DURING THIS TIME, WE WILL ALSO DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT A STRUCTURED COMMUNICATIONS PLAN TO ENSURE THE COMMUNITY AND INTERNAL STAFF ARE INFORMED AND PREPARED FOR THE TRANSITION.
PRIOR TO THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 26, 27, ALL THREE CLOUD-BASED APPLICATIONS
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ARE SCHEDULED TO GO LIVE SIMULTANEOUSLY COMPLETING THE MODERNIZATION EFFORT AND PROVIDING A FULLY INTEGRATED CLOUD-BASED PLATFORM TO SUPPORT OUR RESIDENCES AND BUSINESS.OUR CURRENT CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT PORTAL HAS SEVERAL KEY LIMITATIONS.
IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEW CLOUD-BASED UTILITY BILLING SYSTEM, AND IT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR FUTURE ENHANCEMENTS OR EXPANDED FUNCTIONALITY.
IT IS ALSO APPROACHING END OF LIFE, MEANING VENDOR SUPPORT AND FUTURE SYSTEM UPDATES WILL BE DISCONTINUED.
FINALLY, ACCESS TO HISTORICAL UTILITY BILLING INFORMATION ONLINE IS LIMITED, WHICH REDUCES TRANSPARENCY AND SELF-SERVICE CAPABILITIES.
THE EXISTING PORTAL PROVIDES LIMITED DATA WITH NO ACCESS TO DETAILED USAGE TRENDS OR COMPREHENSIVE HISTORICAL INFORMATION.
IT ALSO LACKS EXPORT CAPABILITY, PREVENTING DOWNLOADING, BILLING OR USAGE DATA FOR INDEPENDENT REVIEW.
AS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN, THE SYSTEM IS BASIC IN BOTH DESIGN AND FUNCTIONALITY, AND DOES NOT MEET TODAY'S DIGITAL SERVICE EXPECTATIONS.
THESE LIMITATIONS ARE ONE OF THE DRIVERS FOR THIS MODERNIZATION.
THE NEW CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT PORTAL, OR CEP REPRESENTS A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT IN TRANSPARENCY, ACCESSIBILITY, AND CUSTOMER SELF-SERVICE.
WITH INTEGRATION TO OUR ADVANCED METERING INFRASTRUCTURE OR A MI SYSTEM, DAILY WATER USAGE WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR VIEWING, PROVIDING TIMELY INSIGHT INTO CONSUMPTION PATTERNS AND HELPING IDENTIFY UNUSUAL ACTIVITY MORE QUICKLY.
THE PORTAL FEATURES ENHANCED VISUAL TOOLS, INCLUDING INTUITIVE CONSUMPTION GRAPHS AND CLEAR UTILITY BILLING VISUALS AND DOLLAR AMOUNTS, MAKING IT EASIER TO UNDERSTAND HOW USAGE IMPACTS MONTHLY CHARGES.
UTILITY USAGE AND BILLING HISTORY CAN ALSO BE EXPORTED INTO EXCEL FOR INDEPENDENT REVIEW AND ANALYSIS.
BEYOND IMPROVED DATA VISIBILITY, THE NEW PORTAL ENHANCES OVERALL CUSTOMER CONVENIENCE.
ACCESS WILL BE AVAILABLE THROUGH A DEDICATED MOBILE APP, ALLOWING ACCOUNT MANAGEMENT ANYTIME AND FROM ANY DEVICE.
THE UTILITY SYSTEM EXPANDS ONLINE ACCESS TO BILLING IMAGES AND SIMPLIFIES ENROLLMENT AND PAPERLESS UTILITY BILLING.
THE CUSTOMIZABLE DASHBOARD ALLOWS USERS TO PRIORITIZE THE INFORMATION MOST IMPORTANT TO THEM, AND WE ARE EXPLORING, MOVE IN AND MOVE OUT REQUESTS SUBMISSIONS ONLINE.
TOGETHER, THESE ENHANCEMENTS MODERNIZE THE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE AND ALIGN OUR SERVICES WITH TODAY'S DIGITAL EXPECTATIONS.
ONE OF THE MOST IMPACTFUL ENHANCEMENTS IS THE UPGRADED CONSUMPTION GRAPHING CAPABILITY.
WATER USAGE CAN BE VIEWED IN MULTIPLE VISUAL FORMATS, INCLUDING STANDARD LINE OR BAR GRAPHS, AS WELL AS A HEAT MAP DISPLAY.
THE STANDARD GRAPH PROVIDES A CLEAR VIEW OF WATER USAGE TRENDS OVER TIME, HELPING TRACK INCREASES OR DECREASES IN CONSUMPTION.
THE HEAT MAP OFFERS A COLOR CODED VISUAL REPRESENTATION, MAKING IT EASIER TO QUICKLY IDENTIFY HIGH USAGE DAYS, SEASONAL PATTERNS, OR POTENTIAL ANOMALIES THAT COULD INDICATE A LEAK.
BY OFFERING MULTIPLE VISUALIZATION VISUALIZATION OPTIONS, THE PORTAL IMPROVES UNDERSTANDING AND SUPPORTS MORE INFORMED DECISION MAKING.
IN ADDITION TO THE CONSUMPTION TRACKING, THE PORTAL PROVIDES ENHANCED UTILITY BILLING VISUALS BUILD AMOUNTS CAN BE REVIEWED THROUGH SIMILAR GRAPH FORMATS, ALLOWING CHARGES TO BE TRACKED OVER TIME AND CLEARLY ILLUSTRATING HOW USAGE IMPACTS COSTS.
THE COLOR CODED DISPLAY HIGHLIGHTS HIGHER AND LOWER BILLING PERIODS AT A GLANCE, MAKING SEASONAL FLUCTUATIONS OR UNUSUAL INCREASES EASIER TO IDENTIFY.
RATHER THAN REVIEWING BILLING INFORMATION, LINE BY NINE LINE FINANCIAL DATA CAN BE INTERPRETED VISUALLY IMPROVING CLARITY AND COMPREHENSION.
THESE TOOLS PROMOTE TRANSPARENCY AND SUPPORT BETTER HOUSEHOLD BUDGETING AND PLANNING.
THE NEW PORTAL ENHANCES ACCESS TO PAYMENT AND UTILITY BILLING HISTORY BY PROVIDING A CENTRALIZED, EASY TO NAVIGATE RECORD OF PAST BILLS AND PAYMENT CONFIRMATIONS.
THE IMPROVED LAYOUT SIMPLIFIES ACCOUNT REVIEW AND REDUCES THE NEED FOR STAFF ASSISTANCE WITH HISTORICAL DOCUMENTATION.
ANOTHER KEY FEATURE OF THE NEW PORTAL IS THE ABILITY TO CONFIGURE PERSONALIZED ACCOUNT ALERTS.
NOTIFICATIONS CAN BE SET BASED ON USAGE THRESHOLDS OR UTILITY BILLING AMOUNTS, ALLOWING ALERTS IF CONSUMPTION EXCEEDS A CERTAIN LEVEL OR CHARGES REACH A SPECIFIED AMOUNT.
THIS PROACTIVE APPROACH ALLOWS POTENTIAL ISSUES TO BE ADDRESSED EARLY RATHER THAN DISCOVERING THEM AFTER RECEIVING A HIGHER BILL.
OVERALL, USER CONFIGURED ALERTS INCREASES TRANSPARENCY, ENCOURAGED CONSERVATION, AND PROVIDE GREATER CONTROL OVER UTILITY ACCOUNTS.
TO SUPPORT A SUCCESSFUL ROLLOUT, WE ARE IMPLEMENTING A COORDINATED INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL COMMUNICATION STRATEGY.
INTERNALLY, STAFF WILL RECEIVE TIMELY UPDATES, TRAINING, AND THE RESOURCES NEEDED TO COM CONFIDENTLY ASSIST THE COMMUNITY.
EXTERNALLY, WE WILL PROVIDE ADVANCED NOTICE OF THE LAUNCH, CLEARLY COMMUNICATE THE PORTAL'S BENEFITS, AND OFFER SIMPLE GUIDANCE FOR ACCOUNT SETUP ALONG WITH ACCESSIBLE SUPPORT RESOURCES.
THIS PROACTIVE APPROACH IS INTENDED TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTION, ENCOURAGE ADOPTION, AND ENSURE A SMOOTH IMPLEMENTATION.
IN CLOSING, THE NEW CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT PORTAL REPRESENTS A MEANINGFUL STEP FORWARD IN MODERNIZING OUR UTILITY SERVICES.
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IT IMPROVES TRANSPARENCY THROUGH ENHANCED DATA VISIBILITY, PROVIDES GREATER CONVENIENCE WITH MOBILE ACCESS AND SELF-SERVICE TOOLS AND SUPPORTS PROACTIVE ACCOUNT MANAGEMENT THROUGH ALERTS AND EXPANDED HISTORY ACCESS.IT ALSO PROMOTES OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY WHILE ALIGNING OUR SERVICES WITH CURRENT DIGITAL EXPECTATIONS.
THIS INVESTMENT POSITIONS THE CITY TO BETTER SERVE THE COMMUNITY TODAY, WHILE BUILDING A SCALABLE FOUNDATION FOR FUTURE ENHANCEMENTS.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO A SMOOTH IMPLEMENTATION AND CONTINUED IMPROVEMENTS IN CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DETAILS.
UM, COUNCIL S YOU CALLED THIS IN FIRST, THEN COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
YEAH, LOOK, SHE'S HAD A PROBLEM WITH THE PHONE.
WE'LL, I'LL JUST TAKE IT FROM HERE.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE FIRST SLIDE, THE TITLE ISSUES? MAY I, UH, GO AHEAD.
WHY DON'T YOU LET HER GO? ALRIGHT.
COUNCILMAN ELLIS, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.
I I, I DID SEND YOU A TEXT MAYOR BECAUSE OF THE DELAYED, IT'S HARDER FOR ME TO ASK QUESTIONS, SO I WILL GET TOGETHER WITH THE, UH, CITY MANAGER, WHICH I HAVE ALREADY GIVEN MY COMMENTS TO.
UH, CHRIS, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT FIRST SLIDE FOR THE TIMEFRAME AGAIN? YES.
UM, SO I GUESS THE QUESTION I HAVE HERE, THIS SEEMS LIKE A SHORT TIMELINE.
IS THIS OFF THE SHELF SOFTWARE WE'RE MODIFYING OR IS THIS OUR OWN SOFTWARE? IT'S OFF THE SHELF.
AND THAT'S, I FIGURED AS MUCH WITH THAT TIMEFRAME IN LINE, THE, UM, SO THERE'S NO WORK WE HAVE TO BE DONE AT OUR END TO TAILOR IT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? OR IS THERE SOME WORK THAT DID OUR END? SO THROUGH THE MAYOR, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, YES, THERE IS WORK ON OUR SIDE.
WE HAVEN'T DONE THE DISCOVERY SESSIONS YET TO DETERMINE WHAT REQUIREMENTS WE'RE LOOKING FOR, BUT THERE IS GONNA BE SOME WORK FOR THE CITY IT DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS WORKING WITH THE BUSINESS UNITS TO GET ALL THE INTEGRATIONS COMPLETED.
SO DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY CITIES ARE USING THIS OR TOWNS? UM, LOCALLY HERE, I KNOW OF ONE FOR SURE.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S A COUPLE OTHERS TOO THAT I HAVE.
I DON'T HAVE THE NAMES WITH ME TODAY, BUT YES, THERE ARE A FEW OTHERS.
AND THERE ARE, THEY HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THEIR ROLLOUT OF THIS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? UM, THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER LINDO, AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, THERE IS NO ISSUES, UM, FROM A ROLLOUT PERSPECTIVE.
UM, WE DO HAVE ANOTHER, UM, CITY THAT'S IN A DIFFERENT STATE THAT DID PRETTY MUCH EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHERE WE'RE GOING FROM AN ON-PREMISE SOLUTION TO THE CLOUD-BASED SOLUTION.
UM, SO I DO HAVE HER CONTACT, SHE'S MORE OF AN IT PERSON.
UM, SO I DO HAVE HER CONTACT AND WE'RE, I'VE BEEN MEETING WITH HER REGULARLY.
WELL, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GONNA SAVE A LOT OF ANXIETY.
I KNOW, I, YOU AND I WERE SHARED A STORY EARLIER TODAY WHERE MY WATER BILL WENT OUT IMMEDIATELY ONCE I START REALIZING WHAT WAS GOING ON.
SO, UH, I THINK THIS CAN BE VERY HELPFUL TO, UH, ONE MORE STEP IN ARIZONA'S ABILITY TO, UH, UTILIZE OUR WATER RESOURCES, WHICH OTHER STATES THINK WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GOOD STEWARDS OF THE WATER.
SO I'LL LEAVE THE CLINICAL SIDE.
BUT ANYWAY,
WE USE TECHNOLOGY AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVE THE APP AND SO THEY COULD DO ONSCREEN, LIKE, I GO TO MY COMPUTER OR I GO TO AN APP.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AS WELL? THAT'S CORRECT.
WELL, I'M I'S GREAT, GREAT TECHNOLOGY, GOOD STUFF.
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I KNOW I'VE BEEN, UM, PROMOTING THIS, I THINK A LITTLE OVERLY ZEALOUS, UH, WHEN WE WERE FIRST TALKING ABOUT ROLLING THIS OUT, SAYING THAT PARENTS COULD TELL IF THEIR TEENAGERS WERE TAKING TOO LONG OF SHOWERS.
AND THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LITTLE OVER ZEALOUS OF MY STATEMENT, BUT, UH, WE'RE REALLY PLEASED AS COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO SAID, TO BE ABLE TO BETTER MONITOR, UH, POTENTIAL WATER LOSS AND ABLE TO HANG ON TO OUR VITAL RESOURCES.
BEFORE WE GO ONTO THE NEXT ONE, I, I AM, I AM AWARE THAT WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WERE, UH, INVITED, ASKED TO COME BECAUSE OF, UH, THEY'RE HERE FOR GAMING GRANTS, UH, THAT'S LISTED ITEMS FIVE THROUGH NINE.
AND SO I, I WANNA GIVE YOU A CHANCE, IF YOU WOULD JUST COME UP TO THE MIC STATE WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT, AND, UM, JUST WHAT'S YOUR ORGANIZATION THAT'S RECEIVING GRANT.
DON'T NEED ANY MORE DIALOGUE OTHER THAN THAT.
BUT YOU TOOK THE TIME TO COME HERE, AND WE WANT TO, UH, GIVE A CHANCE TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU.
SO YOU'RE ALL WELCOME TO FORMAL LINE AND STATE WHO YOU ARE.
WHAT'S THE GRANT? AND THEN PLEASE NO MORE COMMENTARY.
MAYOR COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU.
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CULTURAL FOUNDATION IN OUR CONNECTING KIDS PROGRAM, WE HAVE RECEIVED $20,000 TO SUPPORT TITLE ONE STUDENTS COMING INTO OUR THEATER AND OUR FACILITIES TO BE ABLE TO OBTAIN ARTS EDUCATION AS WELL AS SCIENCE EDUCATION THROUGH THE THEATER PROGRAMMING THAT WE PROVIDE.WE ALSO PROVIDE OTHER PROGRAMMING, SUCH AS OUR YOUTH ARTS COUNCIL, WHICH INSTILLS LEADERSHIP, POSITIVE SPEAKING, AND WE HAVE FOUND THAT THESE PROGRAMS ACTUALLY REDUCE DEPRESSION AND ENCOURAGE STUDENTS TO INCREASE THEIR SPEAKING SKILLS AND THEIR SELF-ESTEEM.
LASTLY, WE DO HAVE A PROGRAM ALSO CALLED CAMP KIDS, AND THAT ALLOWS CHILDREN TO COME INTO OUR FACILITIES AND TO SEE THEMSELVES ON THE STAGE AND HAVE THEMSELVES REFLECTED AND HOPEFULLY THINK OF THEMSELVES AS ONE DAY BEING ARTS ADMINISTRATORS, PERFORMERS INSIDE OF OUR SOCIETY, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, INSIDE OF THE COMMUNITY OF THE CITY OF CHANDLER.
SO, WE THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT, AND WE WILL BE APPLYING AGAIN THIS YEAR, AND WE HOPE THAT WE CAN COUNT ON EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT OUR YOUTH AND THEIR EDUCATION HERE IN THE COMMUNITY OF CHANDLER.
I KNEW I WAS SETTING MYSELF UP FOR LONGER THAN WHAT I ASKED WHEN I SAW YOU COMING UP FIRST WITH ALL OF YOUR PASSION.
I'M WITH THE FIRE WHEEL STEM INSTITUTE.
WE RUN A STEM CENTER, UH, IN CHANDLER, AND WE ALSO HAVE A MOBILE STEM CENTER, AND WE'RE PREPARING TO EMBARK ON THE, UH, GAMING GRANT PROCESS.
I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE CHANDLER EDUCATION FOUNDATION, AND WE ARE APPLYING FOR THE, UH, THE GRANT AS WELL.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME UP.
COUNCIL, THIS I AM YOLANDA ROBINSON.
I AM THE FOUNDER AND CEO OF ARIZONA PACKS OF LIFE, AND WE PARTNER WITH, UH, UH, CHANDLER HOUSING TO PROVIDE A SUMMER PROGRAM, UM, IN THE SUMMER.
WE, WE STARTED ACTUALLY IN 2024, AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE ON AND, AND, UH, APPLY FOR THESE FUNDING.
MY NAME'S JENNIFER FRANCISCO AND I'M THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AT MATH CROSSING FOOD BANK, JUST RIGHT DOWN THE STREET HERE IN CHANDLER.
UH, WE'RE APPLYING FOR OUR FUNDING FOR OUR EMERGENCY FOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS, WHICH INCLUDES OUR EMERGENCY FOOD BOXES AND OUR MEALS TO GROW PROGRAM, WHICH IS OUR STUDENT HUNGER RELIEF PROGRAM FOR STUDENTS FROM KINDERGARTEN THROUGH COLLEGE.
I AM WITH ICAN POSITIVE PROGRAMS FOR YOUTH.
WE PROVIDE FREE OUT OF SCHOOL TIME CARE, YET FIVE SITES, INCLUDING THREE IN CHANDLER AND TWO IN MESA.
WE'LL BE APPLYING FOR FUNDING THROUGH THE GILA RIVER INDIAN COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE ACADEMIC ENHANCEMENTS AND SOME FURTHER PARTNER COLLABORATIONS WITH THE GOAL OF BOOSTING MATH SCORES IN READING AND PROFICIENCY SCORES.
I'M THE GRANTS DIRECTOR AT DIGNITY HEALTH FOUNDATION, EAST VALLEY.
AND, UH, WE SUPPORT CHANDLER REGIONAL MEDICAL CENTER.
UH, WE'RE GONNA BE APPLYING FOR TWO GRANTS, ONE FOR ONE FROM GILA RIVER, UH, FOR AN ORAL HEALTH PROGRAM, AND THEN THE OTHER FROM OC CHIN, UM, INDIAN COMMUNITY FOR A NEW, UH, NON-INVASIVE CANCER TREATMENT PROGRAM.
WE HELP PEOPLE STRUGGLING WITH HUNGER, POVERTY, AND HOMELESSNESS.
WE HAVE THREE PROPOSALS BEFORE YOU TO, UM, HELP US FUND OUR FOOD BANK, OUR SENIOR CENTERS IN OUR LITERACY PROGRAMS WITH VEHICLES AND OPERATIONAL COSTS AND FOOD COSTS.
THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THAT.
AND I, I WANNA THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR COMING HERE IN CASE THERE WERE POSSIBLE QUESTIONS AS WELL AS I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE APPRECIATE AS LEADERS OF CHANDLER IS THE JUST SO MANY ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE GET TO PARTNER WITH, COLLABORATE WITH, PROVIDE, UH, INSPIRATION, PROVIDE, UH, UH, VITAL SERVICES IN WAYS THAT IS ECONOMICALLY ENHANCED BY THE PASSIONS THAT YOU AND YOUR ORGANIZATIONS REPRESENT.
SO AS, UH, AS MAYOR AND I THINK SPEAKING FOR ALL OF COUNCIL, WE'RE, WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO, AND WE'RE GLAD THAT THE TRIBES AND GAMING MONEY HAS PROVIDED THIS VEHICLE THAT TO HELP YOU WITH YOUR MISSION, WHICH HELPS US WITH OUR MISSION TO KEEP CHANDLER SAFE, TO KEEP CHANDLER,
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UM, UH, EDUCATED, ENGAGED, AND IN SO MANY OTHER WAYS THAT YOU PROVIDE SERVICES.[25. Agreement for Non-Profit Blueprint Program Move City Council approve Agreement No. 5037, with Chandler Chamber of Commerce, for the Non-Profit Blueprint program, in an amount not to exceed $160,000, for the period of one year, beginning April 1, 2026, through March 31, 2027, with the option of up to four one-year extensions. Council Focus Area(s):]
ALRIGHT, BACK ON THE SCRIPT.OUR NEXT ITEM CALLED IN WAS ITEM NUMBER 25, AGREEMENT FOR NONPROFIT BLUEPRINT PROGRAMS. AND, UH, RYAN BCH.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
LEMME FIND THIS PRESENTATION FOR YOU.
ALL RIGHT, I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE THIS EVENING JUST TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE NONPROFIT BLUEPRINT PROGRAM TO SET THE STAGE QUICKLY, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THAT IN 2024, WE UPDATED, UH, OUR NONPROFIT ALLOCATIONS PROCESS, THE PROCESS THAT WE GIVE, UH, CHANDLER NONPROFITS.
THIS IS A GREAT TRANSITION FOR ME,
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU IDENTIFIED AT THAT TIME THAT YOU WERE INTERESTED IN WAS A WAY TO SUPPORT THOSE SMALLER EMERGING NONPROFITS THAT WEREN'T QUITE READY TO MAYBE, UM, PARTICIPATE IN OUR VERY COMPETITIVE, UH, BROAD FUNDING PROCESS, BUT THAT REALLY WANTED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, GET THEIR FEET WET AND, AND DO SOME GOOD HERE IN CHANDLER.
WHAT I'M PRESENTING TO YOU, UH, THIS EVENING IS THE RESULT OF, OF THAT ASK.
AND SO THE NONPROFIT BLUEPRINT PROGRAM IS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CHANDLER CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND THE CITY OF CHANDLER.
AND THE IDEA IS TO GIVE 15 NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS A YEAR AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD THEIR CAPACITY AND TO GET READY TO APPLY FOR THINGS LIKE OUR ALLOCATIONS.
AND ALSO, LIKE WHAT YOU JUST SAW, UM, THE INDIAN GAMING GRANTS AND OTHER GRANTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
EACH YEAR, 15 AGENCIES WOULD BE SELECTED TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM.
UM, OVER A FOUR MONTH PERIOD, THEY WOULD LEARN EVERYTHING FROM, UM, IMPROVING THEIR SYSTEMS TO GOVERNANCE AND, UM, HOW TO DIVERSIFY THEIR FUNDING BASE.
AND THAT'S AT THE END OF THEIR PARTICIPATION, THEY WOULD EACH RECEIVE A CAPACITY BUILDING A GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF 5,000, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THEY'LL BE PARTICIPATING IN.
SO THERE'S FOUR GROUP SESSIONS THAT REALLY MAKES UP THE CORE OF THIS PROGRAM, BUT THERE'S SO MUCH MORE THAN THAT.
AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE FOUR GROUP SESSIONS, THEY WOULD LEARN EVERYTHING FROM GOVERNANCE TO FUNDRAISING, TO COMMUNICATION STRATEGIES AND SUSTAINABILITY.
AND ASIDE FROM THAT, OUTSIDE OF THAT, THEY'LL ALSO RECEIVE, UM, ONE-ON-ONE COACHING, UM, SESSIONS AFTER THE SESSIONS.
AND THEY WOULD LOOK AT THINGS LIKE POLICY DEVELOPMENT AND WEBSITE, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKE WEBSITE INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOW TO WRITE STRATEGIC PLANS.
EVERYTHING THAT SMALL NONPROFITS NEED TO LEARN.
UM, ONCE THEY COMPLETED THE PROGRAM, THEY WOULD RECEIVE A $5,000 CAPACITY BUILDING GRANT, AND IT COULD GO TOWARDS THINGS LIKE OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS, TECHNOLOGY UPGRADES, MARKETING, WHATEVER THAT PARTICULAR NONPROFIT IS READY TO EMBARK ON.
SO IT'S REALLY AN INDIVIDUALIZED, UM, THING.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY WOULD RECEIVE A BLUEPRINT MEMBERSHIP BENEFITS, AND THAT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE PROFESSIONAL HEADSHOTS, UM, ASSISTANCE WITH BUSINESS AND MARKETING, UM, OPPORTUNITIES FOR NETWORKING, AND OF COURSE, UM, OPPORTUNITIES FOR RECOGNITION BY BOTH THE CHAMBER AND THE CITY.
THIS IS OUR ANTICIPATED, UM, TIMELINE.
SO WE ANTICIPATE IF, IF THIS IS APPROVED TONIGHT, WE WOULD BEGIN TO, WELL, THE CHAMBER WOULD BEGIN TO OPEN THEIR APPLICATION PROCESS IN APRIL.
THAT'S THE TIME WHEN THEY WOULD SELECT THE 15 NONPROFITS.
THIS COINCIDES WITH OUR PROCESS, OUR, OUR BIGGER PROCESS WHERE WE ARE ALLOCATING GENERAL FUNDS.
UM, WE WOULD HAVE NOTIFIED NONPROFITS WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAD RECEIVED THOSE.
SO THIS IS A GREAT TIME BECAUSE THOSE WHO MAY HAVE NOT SUCCEEDED IN THAT PROCESS WILL STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY FOR THIS PROCESS.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IN JUNE THROUGH SEPTEMBER, THEY WOULD GO THROUGH THEIR TRAINING SESSIONS, HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR COACHING AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, AND THEN IN, IN SEPTEMBER THEY WOULD COMPLETE THE PROCESS.
THERE WOULD BE A CEREMONY AND SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR RECOGNITION.
AND WILL, THAT THEY WOULD BE AWARDED THAT $5,000 GRANT.
AND THEN, UM, FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR, UM, THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD WORK WITH US, CONTINUE TO GET TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, UM, HAVE THEIR AWARD, AND AGAIN, MORE, UM, OPPORTUNITIES FOR RECOGNITION, JUST PARTICIPATION.
SO WE THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL PARTNERSHIP.
WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO START IT.
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THIS COMING APRIL, WE HAVE ALREADY, UH, DREAMED UP OUR CURRICULUM AND WE'RE JUST REALLY EXCITED TO PRESENT IT TO YOU TODAY.AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
SO, TED BROUGHT THIS FORTH, UM, NOT A QUESTION, BUT I, I HAVE ALL HAVE BEEN SEEING THE HHSC PROCESS FOR YEARS AND, AND SEEMINGLY THAT THERE ARE A FAIR AMOUNT OF SMALLER ORGANIZATIONS THAT WANT TO GROW, UH, THAT, THAT ARE ALWAYS ASKING ABOUT CITY FUNDS, YET IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, NOT, NOT MANY, NOT ALL HAVE HAD THE CAPACITY TO DO WHAT THEY'RE HOPING TO DO OR HAVEN'T FIT THE CITY VISION.
SO, UM, I'M PLEASED THAT, UH, THAT WE'RE MOVING AHEAD IN THIS AREA.
I REALLY CALLED THIS FORTH 'CAUSE I, I THOUGHT IT'S A GOOD FIRST TIME TO BRING OUT BEFORE OUR COMMUNITY AND, UH, TO, UM, FURTHER ENHANCE THE, THE NONPROFITS AND THE MISSION AND VISION THAT THOSE WHO ARE STARTING THEM, HOW THEY CAN SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.
SO I WANNA THANK YOU AND THANK THE CHAMBER FOR THIS PARTNERSHIP AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO WATCHING THIS FIRST COHORT AND, UM, BEING APPRISED AT, AT AFTER SEPTEMBER OF THEIR PROGRESS WINS, ET CETERA, WHERE WE GO FROM THERE.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, COUNCILMAN ORLANDO? YEAH.
UM, SO THE, I KNOW IT'S MAYBE TOO DEEP HERE, BUT THE SELECTION CRITERIA, YOU LOOKING PREDOMINANTLY FOR CHANDLER BASED RESIDENTS OR CHANDLER BASED BUSINESSES TO START UP, UH, NONPROFITS.
THROUGH THE MAYOR, UH, COUNCILMAN ORLANDO.
WE ARE LOOKING FOR, WAS IT A GOOD QUESTION? IT WAS A GREAT QUESTION.
EXCEPT LAUREN, WHEN SHE'S TALKING THE MAYOR, I HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, LAUREN'S FABULOUS.
I HAVE TO TAKE HER, IT'S GETTING WEIGHT, BUT GO AHEAD.
WE ARE LOOKING FOR ORGANIZATIONS THAT SERVE CHANDLER RESIDENTS.
SO SOME ORGANIZATIONS DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE RIGHT HERE IN CHANDLER, BUT THEY STILL ARE SERVING CHANDLER RESIDENTS AND THAT IS ONE OF THE CRITERIA.
THERE ARE ALSO OTHER ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA BASED ON SIZE AND NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES AND BUDGET AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
YEAH, I'M EXCITED BECAUSE I, I KNOW CHAMBER DOES A GREAT JOB IN A LOT OF AREAS AND WE, WE COULD FORGET ABOUT THEIR EDUCATION, UH, PORTION OF THE, THEY HAD THEIR BUSINESS SIDE AND WHAT THEY DO ON THAT.
BUT, UH, JUST REALIZED, DAWNED ON ME A FEW MINUTES AGO THAT THIS, THE EDUCATION SIDE'S HANDLING THIS, WHICH IS A SEPARATE 5 0 1 C UNDER THE CHAMBER'S, UH, PURVIEW, NOT DIRECTLY TIED TO THE BUSINESS ASPECT OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CHAMBER.
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO? UM, IT'S THE, IT'S THE FOUNDATION SIDE.
AND WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE CHAMBER BECAUSE THEY DO BRING SO MUCH OF THAT KNOWLEDGE.
WELL I'M EXCITED WORKING WITH THE CHAMBER AND WE'VE DONE, THEY'VE DONE GREAT RELATIONSHIPS, SO THANK YOU.
UM, FINALLY, I UNDERSTAND THE CHAMBER IS ALSO, I THINK YOU HAD A, A BULLET ON YOUR SLIDE.
I KNOW COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THIS EARLIER, UM, THAT THEY'RE GONNA ALLOW THESE, THE INDIVIDUALS TO OBVIOUSLY NETWORK AT THESE EVENTS SO THAT THEY COULD 'CAUSE PART OF IT'S EDUCATION, PART OF IT'S MEETING PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY TO BE, AND THEN OF COURSE THE GRANTS COME WITH A LITTLE BIT AT THE END OF IT.
SO THAT'S VERY, UM, YOU GOT THAT TO PUT INTO CONTRACT AS WELL, RIGHT? WE SURE DO.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE THINK THE CHAMBER IS JUST THE PERFECT PARTNER BECAUSE THEY HAVE THAT NETWORK AND THEY CAN REALLY INTRODUCE EMERGING NONPROFITS TO THIS WHOLE NETWORK OF, OF, UM, THE CHANDLER COMMUNITY.
SO THAT'S A REAL, A REAL STRONG POINT FOR US, WHICH IS POTENTIAL RESOURCES OBVIOUSLY, TOO.
ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU MAYOR.
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COUNCIL MEMBER HAWKINS.
UM, JUST ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION ON COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, ORLANDOS, IS IT ASSUMING THAT ONCE THEY'RE THROUGH THIS PROGRAM, IT'S JUST A ONE AND DONE SITUATION, THEY CANNOT REPEAT IN UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE? OR IS THAT APPLICABLE? EXCELLENT QUESTION.
THROUGH THE MAYOR, UM, COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS, THAT WOULD BE OUR INTENT IS THAT IT'S A ONE-TIME THING.
IT'S A CAPACITY BUILDING PROGRAM.
WE HAVE NEVER, BECAUSE THIS IS OUR FIRST TIME, IT'S OUR PILOT YEAR, WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT WHAT IF, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE A NONPROFIT HAD COME BACK.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE TO DISCUSS FURTHER.
BUT THE INTENT WOULD BE TO HAVE, UM, 15 NEW ORGANIZATIONS A YEAR.
I HOPE TO SEE CHANDLER BASED NON-FOR-PROFITS HERE, UM, GETTING THE OPPORTUNITY VERSUS, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE BECAUSE IT IS BEING FUNDED BY THE CHANDLER RESIDENTS.
SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THESE APPLICANTS THAT'S GONNA COME FORWARD AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE CHANDLER BASED APPLICANTS.
[27. Professional Services Agreement, Amendment No. 4, with Nfra, Inc., for the Delaware Street Parking Lot Improvements Design Services Located at 101 N Delaware Street, Chandler, AZ 85225 Move City Council award Professional Services Agreement No. ST2308.201, Amendment No. 4, to Nfra, Inc., for the Delaware Street Parking Lot Improvements Design Services, increasing the agreement amount by $61,767. Council Focus Area(s):]
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IN ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 27 BY COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, A BRIEFING ON, UM, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR THE DELAWARE STREET PARKING.[33. Discussion of Implementing an Ethics Policy and Possible Direction to Staff to Review and Return with Recommendations, as Requested by Councilmember Poston]
NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER 33, DISCUSSION OF IMPLEMENTING AN ETHICS POLICY AND POSSIBLE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO REVIEW AND RETURN WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.COUNCIL MEMBER POSTON, TELL US WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE.
I WROTE SOME NOTES DOWN TONIGHT JUST SO I, I AM VERY CLEAR WITH EVERYONE THAT, UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN IMPORTANT TO ME FOR SOME TIME AND I'M BRINGING THIS FORWARD FOR DISCUSSION TONIGHT SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THIS HOLISTICALLY AS A COUNCIL.
WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS STAFF TIME.
I AM LOOKING FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR STAFF TO INVESTIGATE AND DO A LITTLE RESEARCH ON THIS.
SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE THAN I CAN DO INDIVIDUALLY AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.
AND IT BEING AN ETHICS POLICY THAT WOULD AFFECT THE ENTIRE COUNCIL, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO DO THAT BY MYSELF ANYWAY.
SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO BRING IT FORWARD.
ANOTHER REASON IS THAT I THINK IT'S A FAIRLY STANDARD PROCESS FOR LARGE ORGANIZATIONS TO HAVE AN ETHICS POLICY.
WE EXPECT OUR EMPLOYEES TO ABIDE BY ETHICS POLICIES.
I THINK WE CAN DO SO OURSELVES.
AND THEN FINALLY, THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD FROM THE COMMUNITY IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT FORMATS.
UM, ONE OF OUR LARGEST PARTNERS, THE CHAMBER HAS IT IN THEIR HOW WE STAND DOCUMENT.
UM, THEY'VE, THEY'VE BEEN REQUESTING THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
UM, AND THEN FINALLY IT ALSO CAME FORWARD WITH SOME PRETTY ROBUST DISCUSSION FROM OUR CHARTER COMMITTEE.
THEY HAD ALSO DISCUSSED THAT, AND I KNOW WE DIDN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CHARTER COMMITTEE, AND I WOULD SAY THAT I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THE CHARTER WAS THE RIGHT PLACE FOR IT.
ANYWAY, THERE'S SOME DOCUMENTS THAT I'VE BEEN DOING A LITTLE BIT OF MY OWN RESEARCH TO TRY AND TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
I PROVIDED, UM, THE CITY CLERK PROVIDED SOME DOCUMENTS TO YOUR DESK.
SOME OF THOSE ARE FROM, THERE'S SOME PROS AND CONS.
THOSE ARE FROM THE, UM, CHAMBERS DISCUSSION WHEN THEY HAD THAT, I REACHED OUT TO THEM AND THEY PROVIDED ME SOME INFORMATION.
I KNOW THE CITY OF MESA HAS A PRETTY ROBUST ETHICS POLICY THAT COVERS BOTH THEIR CITY COUNCIL AND THEIR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
SO I THINK THERE'S INFORMATION OUT THERE THAT CITY STAFF COULD TAKE A LOOK AT.
I, WHAT I DIDN'T WANNA DO TONIGHT WAS TO SAY, THIS IS THE ONE AND ONLY IDEA.
I WANTED IT TO BE UP FOR DISCUSSION.
THE WAY THAT THE, UM, THE TWO CITIES THAT THE CHAMBER LOOKED AT, BOTH WERE LOOKING AT A COMMISSION.
I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THAT'S RIGHT FOR CHANDLER, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE MY RECOMMENDATION EITHER.
THE REASON I WANT TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION IS BECAUSE THIS, I, I, I DON'T, I AM NOT.
THIS COULD BE, IT COULD BE A CHARTER AMENDMENT, IT COULD BE A RESOLUTION, IT COULD BE AN ORDINANCE.
IT COULD SIMPLY BE A POLICY OF THE MARRYING COUNCIL, ONE OF OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
SO I'M LOOKING FOR THE DISCUSSION AND THE INFORMATION.
UM, I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S A BAD IDEA TO GET INFORMATION.
I'VE NEVER BEEN AFRAID OF BEING EDUCATED OR INFORMED OR GETTING INFORMATION AND MOVING FORWARD.
SO I GUESS I WILL OPEN IT UP NOW TO MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH HOPES FOR SOME DISCUSSION ON THIS.
BUT AGAIN, WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS NOT FOR YOU TO IMPLEMENT ONE SPECIFIC POLICY, BUT REALLY TO GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF THAT GO AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT A POLICY WOULD LOOK LIKE.
I THINK WE ARE THE EXACT COUNCIL TO DO IT.
I THINK WE HAVE A REPUTATION THAT HAS SERVED US WELL FOR, UM, BEING A COUNCIL THAT CAN HAVE DIFFERENCES OF OPINION WHILE HAVING RESPECTFUL AND PROFESSIONAL DISCUSSIONS.
AND I'M NOT TRYING TO SOLVE A SPECIFIC PROBLEM ON THIS COUNCIL.
I AM TRYING TO PREVENT ONE AND TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE.
SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THIS FORWARD.
I HOPE IT'S A ROBUST DISCUSSION OR, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE SOME OPINIONS ON THIS OR THAT YOU WOULD JOIN ME IN DIRECTING STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
SO I'LL START WITH A QUESTION.
UM, YOUR, YOUR LAST STATEMENT THERE.
I GUESS, I GUESS MY, MY QUESTION I'VE ASKED ALL ALONG WHEN I, WHEN I FIRST SAW THIS, IS WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE? AND YOU SAID YOU DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC, BUT YOU HOPE TO THAT WE DON'T OR SOMETHING.
SO, SO I, I GIMME AN EXAMPLE OF SURE.
I, WELL, THERE COULD BE, THERE COULD BE SOME RULES AND REGULATIONS AROUND, UM, UH, UH, AND IT GOES FROM VERY GRANULAR.
THE, WHAT I'VE SEEN HAS GONE FROM VERY GRANULAR TO VERY BROAD.
THERE COULD BE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICIES, THERE COULD BE POLICIES AROUND, UM, THE ACCEPTANCE OF A MEAL.
I, I'VE, I'VE SEEN IT ALL OVER THE MAP.
UM, BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THE PROBLEM I'M TRYING TO SOLVE IS THAT
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I'M HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE US TO LOOK INTO.AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE BE RESPONSIVE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND TAKE A LOOK AND AT LEAST GIVE THEM THE COURTESY.
WE HAD OUR CHARTER COMMITTEE DO AN EXCELLENT JOB AND TAKE A DEEP LOOK INTO THIS.
I KNOW THAT THE CHAMBER HAS A MONTHS LONG POLICY WHEN THEY BEGIN TO LOOK IN PUTTING TOGETHER THEIR HOW WE STAND DOCUMENT.
AND THIS HAS BEEN ON THEIR, HOW WE STAND AS A CHECKLIST.
SO I THINK IT'S SIMPLY US BEING RESPONSIVE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT'S PUT IN THE WORK.
SO YOU, BUT YOU DIDN'T QUITE ANSWER MY QUESTION IS WHAT'S THE, YOU GAVE SOME EXAMPLES, BUT IS THERE, YOU DOESN'T SOUND LIKE YOU HAVE A SCOPE.
YOU, IT SOUNDS LIKE, FROM WHAT I JUST HEARD YOU SAY, YOU'RE INTERESTED IN PURSUING A PROCESS TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THERE.
'CAUSE YOU MENTIONED, UH, RECEIVING FOOD.
YOU MENTIONED, UH, THE POSS OR YOU MENTIONED, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA.
DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM YOU WANNA SOLVE, I GUESS IS MY QUESTION? OR IS THIS JUST THE BASELINE OF, OF A, OF A SHOTGUN TO SAY THERE MIGHT BE A PROBLEM AND THIS WOULD GIVE, BECAUSE YOU COULD GO OFF IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS MM-HMM
WITH IN WHAT YOU JUST STATED THERE.
WHAT'S, WHAT DO YOU HOPE TO SEE THE PROBLEM SOLVED? I'M, I'M NOT HEARING THAT YET.
OR MAYBE IT'S ME, BUT I'M NOT HEARING YOU
WELL, MAYOR, I, I THINK I'M ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR US TO PUT A PROCESS INTO PLACE BEFORE THERE'S A PROBLEM.
I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM WITH BEING PROACTIVE WITH GETTING INFORMATION AND LOOKING FORWARD AND LOOKING AT THE FUTURE.
AGAIN, WE HAVE OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS ASKING ABOUT THIS.
UM, WE HAVE TWO VERY RESPECTABLE ORGANIZATIONS ASKING US ABOUT THIS.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT, I THINK THE EXACT WRONG TIME TO APPROACH SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS THAT WHEN THERE'S A PROBLEM AND THEN WE'RE JUST REACTIVE.
WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS FOR US TO BE PROACTIVE AS A COUNCIL.
AND YOU BEFORE ONE LAST QUESTION FOR I TURN IT OVER.
SO YOU ALSO WOULDN'T POTENTIALLY HAVE A PROBLEM OF, SINCE THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE DID LOOK AT THIS, IS TO TURN THIS BACK TO THEM AND SAY, RE REIMAGINE, RETHINK THIS AND COME BACK TO US SINCE WE HAVE SOME TIME, UH, BETWEEN NOW AND JUNE, CORRECT? UH, NO, ACTUALLY, I, I DON'T THINK THE CHARTER COMMITTEE IS THE APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR THIS BECAUSE THE CHARTER COMMITTEE'S JOB IS TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT GOES ON THE CHARTER.
AND I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THIS NEEDS TO GO ON THE CHARTER.
LIKE I SAID, I THINK THIS COULD POTENTIALLY BE, IT COULD BE A CHARTER ISSUE, UM, BUT WE'VE ALREADY HAD SOME ROBUST DISCUSSION AROUND THAT.
BUT IT COULD ALSO BE AN ORDINANCE LIKE IS DONE IN SOME CITIES.
IT COULD BE A COMMISSION THAT IS ALSO DONE IN SOME CITIES.
IT COULD BE A RESOLUTION, IT COULD BE SIMPLY A POLICY AND PROCEDURE, OR IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT, IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE JUST, I'M SORRY, I THINK I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.
I THINK THOSE ARE THE FOUR PLACES WHERE I THINK IT, IT COULD LAND, BUT I AM NOT CONVINCED THAT PUTTING IT ON AS A CHARTER AMENDMENT TO HAVE OUR VOTERS VOTE ON IT IS THE RIGHT PLACE OR WHAT SHOULD BE DONE IN SUCH A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.
SO I I IF, IF YOU THINK THAT THAT'S, THAT'S AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION, BUT I THINK WE ALREADY DETERMINED THAT IT WASN'T AN AMENDMENT THAT WE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CHARTER COMMISSION, BUT I DO THINK THE RIGHT PLACE IS OUR CITY STAFF THAT HAS THE RESOURCES AND SORT OF THAT BROAD LOOK ON THAT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF OUR CITY STAFF LOOKED AT THAT DEEPLY.
SO I JUST, MY CONCERN IS APART FROM CHARTER, IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE ANY CHANGES THAT HAVE ANY, ANY STATEMENTS ON, ON POLICY, I, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HAVE, I'M NOT SURE IT WOULD HAVE ANY TEETH AS THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN BECAUSE AN ORDINANCE WITH COUNCIL WOULD, CAN EASILY CHANGE AS, AS COUNCILS CHANGE.
BUT ALSO IF THERE'S, UH, I DON'T THINK IT ORDINANCE WOULD NECESSARILY, IF THIS IS A QUESTION OF, OF OF DISCIPLINE, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD PROVIDE, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING WHAT'S THE INTENT OF THAT? YEAH, AN ORDINANCE OR A RESOLUTION OR, YEAH, IT WOULDN'T DO THAT OR THE DIFFERENT, WELL, UM, I THINK WE ALL AS A COUNCIL HAVE ACTUALLY ALREADY SIGNED AN ANTI-BULLYING, ANTI-HARASSMENT POLICY.
I HAVEN'T SEEN THE TEETH IN THAT EITHER.
SO IF, IF THAT'S WHERE WE WANTED TO START, MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT TEETH THERE.
I'M NOT REALLY RECOMMENDING THAT.
I'D RATHER TAKE A BROADER LOOK AT, UM, AN ETHICS POLICY.
COUNCIL, OTHER THOUGHTS, COMMENTS? QUICK QUESTION.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, THANK YOU.
DO WE HAVE AN ETHICS POLICY FOR
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OUR STAFF? MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO? WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PERSONNEL RULES AND ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS THAT JUST DOES GOVERN A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS FOR STAFF.ARGUABLY ETHICAL ISSUES AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, HOW TO CONDUCT THEMSELVES, SOCIAL MEDIA PARTICIPATION, ELECTIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE WHAT I WOULD CALL AN ETHICS POLICY, BUT IT IS, UM, THROUGHOUT THE VARIOUS PERSONNEL RULES AND UM, AND ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS, I THINK THAT'S, IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO START.
I KNOW THAT'S THE FIRST, I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING WE HAD SOMETHING ON THAT.
I DIDN'T KNOW WE OFFICIALLY HAD SOMETHING ON THAT.
UM, AND I THINK WE'RE, I MEAN, YOU COULD, YOU COULD DO SOMETHING VERY SIM IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO GO DOWN A CHARTER PATH, AND I'M NOT RECOMMENDING THAT OR NOT.
YOU COULD HAVE SOMEBODY VERY SIMPLE AS THE COUNCIL SHALL HAVE THE CITY AND COUNCIL SHALL HAVE AN ETHICS POLICY AND YOU'RE DONE.
AND THEN YOU COULD DECIDE HOW YOU WANNA PUT THAT POLICY.
I THINK WHAT I HEARD TONIGHT, AND IN ALL FAIRNESS, UM, ALL I HEARD TONIGHT WAS LIKE ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER UP HERE WHO HAS ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION DISCUSSION, UH, TO, BECAUSE IT IS A STAFF TIME ELEMENT MORE THAN FOUR HOURS, I'M ASSUMING.
AND LIKE YOU SAID, YOU PUT TOGETHER WHATEVER TIME HERE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS WILL LOOK LIKE.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE A RESOLUTION, A POLICY AND ORDINANCE OR ON THE BACK OF A NAPKIN.
I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS GONNA LOOK LIKE.
BUT IF WE DON'T DO THE DUE DILIGENCE, AT LEAST ANSWER THE QUESTION OF WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE.
I THINK, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE PROBABLY, THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO START IS JUST SAY, OKAY, WE WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
WHAT'S OUT THERE, WHAT'S NOT OUT THERE, WHAT DO WE HAVE ALREADY? AND THEN ONCE WE GET THIS PACKAGE TOGETHER, UM, WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT AS ACCOUNTS OF THE WORK SESSION AND SAY IS SOMETHING WE WANNA GO FORWARD ON.
BUT THAT, I MEAN, I I DON'T THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S REASONABLE.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, UM, HOW MUCH STAFF TIME THIS WILL TAKE.
UM, BUT I THINK IT'S REASONABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
AND THAT'S ALL WE'RE DOING RIGHT TONIGHT.
WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY DECISIONS TO IMPLEMENT SOMETHING OR NO.
SO ANYWAY, I'LL LET IT GO WITH THAT FOR NOW.
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILMAN? MEMBER HAWKINS? THANK YOU MAYOR.
I JUST, I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS OR I GUESS A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS JUST BASED ON SOME OF THE STUFF YOU SAID TONIGHT.
UM, I GUESS IN MY HEAD I SEE IT GOING THROUGH THE CHARTER, UM, MOSTLY BECAUSE THEY'RE THE RESIDENTS ARE WHO HELP GUIDE WHAT WE'RE DOING.
THEY HAVE A SAY SO, AND THEY SHOULD HAVE INPUT ON WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THEY EXPECT FROM US.
SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF LIKE MY THOUGHTS ON IT IN THE GENERAL SENSE OF WHY IT MAKES SENSE TO GO THROUGH THE CHARTER.
AND ALONG WITH, I THINK, UH, MAYOR, MAYBE YOUR COMMENT WAS THAT IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE THE TEETH AND, AND WE COULD PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE, BUT WHAT'S THE POINT OF IT IF IT DOESN'T ALSO GET MARRIED UP WITH SOMETHING THAT HAS IMPACT IS, I GUESS A CONCERN OF MINE.
COUNCILOR MORALES, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YES, MAYOR.
UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW I'M COMING ACROSS AS FAR THAT THE DELAY IS CONCERNED.
IF YOU'RE HEARING ME ON IN TIME OR AM I BEING DELAYED WHEN I'M SPEAKING? YOU'RE GOOD.
UM, WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER
BECAUSE IF WE LEAVE THE PEOPLE OUT OF IT, UH, IT DOES NOT GO TO THE CHARTER.
IT DOES NOT GO TO THE PEOPLE WHO VOTE ON IT WHEN THEY ARE THE ONE WHO ELECTED US.
NOW WE ARE THE ONE WHO, WHO'S GOING TO HAVE TO CALL EACH OTHER IN, INTO THIS.
AND AT THIS TIME, I, I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THAT BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT COULD BE ANYTHING THAT WE DON'T LIKE ABOUT SOMEBODY.
AND THEN IS THERE FOUR OF US WHO DECIDED THAT THIS PERSON HAVE TO GO, OR THIS PERSON CANNOT DO THEIR JOB, OR THEY DID SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T LIKE AND WE RALLY FOR OTHER THREE OTHER PEOPLE WITH US AND THEN WE COME FOR THIS PERSON.
WE'VE SEEN THAT HAPPENING BEFORE, UM, IN OTHER CITIES AND EVERYTHING.
AND THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED IN ALL THE 40 YEARS THAT I'VE LIVED HERE IN CHANDLER HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE.
I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS COUNCIL GO INTO.
FIRST OF ALL, NUMBER TWO IS THE FACT THAT FOR ME PERSONALLY,
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I WILL FIND MYSELF DOUBLE MIND IN WHAT I HAD SAID PRIOR, WHICH WAS WHEN COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ACTING AS COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE CITY OF CHANDLER, WE HAVE ALREADY HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WHEN WE COME IN, THEY SIT DOWN WITH US AND SAY, THESE ARE THE DOS AND THESE ARE THE DOS.BUT WHEN THEY ARE ACTING UPON THEIR OWN RECOGNITION IN THEIR OWN BUSINESSES, DOING THEIR OWN THINGS ON THEIR OWN SOCIAL MEDIA OR ON THEIR OWN DOING OTHER THINGS, THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
THAT'S THEIR PERSONAL BUSINESSES.
I DON'T THINK THAT AS A COUNCIL, A MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE SHOULD INTERFERE INTO THAT.
AND IF I FIND MYSELF SAYING YES TO THIS RIGHT NOW, I WILL THINK THAT I'M BEING A HYPOCRITE BECAUSE I HAVE DEFENDED SO MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS INTO THE SQUARE OVER THESE KINDS OF THINGS ALREADY, WHEN OTHER PEOPLE, UH, WHETHER IN THE COMMUNITY OR OTHER ENTITIES HAVE COME AND SAY, HEY, THIS PERSON NEEDS TO GO BECAUSE THIS HAPPENED TO THEM.
AND I'M ALWAYS ASKED, WHAT IS IT THAT THEY HAVE DONE WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF BEING A COUNCIL MEMBER? IS THIS A PERSONAL THING THAT THEY ARE DEALING WITH? IS THIS A PERSONAL BUSINESS OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE DOING ON THEIR OWN THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH US HERE WITHIN THE SQUARE OF THE CITY? SO I I I, I, THIS IS WHERE I STAND.
I DID HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL MEMBER POSTON, AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I GO ON RECORD SAYING IT AGAIN.
THAT, UH, UH, IF IT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH, IT NEEDS TO GO BACK TO THE CHARTER AND WE NEED TO GIVE THE CHARTER DIRECTION BECAUSE THAT'S, AGAIN, WHETHER THE CHARTER HAD CHOSEN NOT TO LOOK INTO IT BEFORE, BUT NOW AS MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE CAN ACTUALLY GIVE THEM DIRECT DIRECTION AND SAY, TAKE THE TIME TO LOOK INTO THIS AND COME BACK TO US IF, IF, IF THERE'S VALIDITY INTO US TAKING THAT TO THE PEOPLE OF CHANDLER TO MAKE A DECISION ON IT.
I ACTUALLY AM REALLY GLAD THAT WE HAVE SUCH A DIVERSE, UH,
WHEN I STARTED GOING DOWN, THERE WERE SO MANY DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE CHARTER COMMITTEE DOING, YOU KNOW, GOING AND TAKING THIS ON AND DOING THE RESEARCH, UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS THAT MAYBE HAS A DIFFERENT OPINION ABOUT THE DIRECTION THAT IT GO.
MAYBE THE CHARTER COMMITTEE IS THE BEST PLACE.
BUT I THINK THAT THERE ARE OTHER POTENTIAL OPTIONS AND IF THAT'S WHERE OUR CITY STAFF LANDED AND SAID THAT IT NEEDED TO GO BACK AND THAT WAS THEIR RECOMMENDATION, BUT I ALWAYS LIKE STARTING WITH THE EXPERTISE OF CITY STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY DO AND IT'S WHAT THEY'RE PAID FOR AS OPPOSED TO AN AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO FIT THIS INTO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.
IT'S CERTAINLY LIKE WE CAN, WE CAN'T, UH, WE, IT'S NOT LIKE WE CAN NEVER CONVENE THE CHARTER COMMITTEE AGAIN, BUT WE ARE ON A TIMEFRAME.
WE'VE ALREADY BEEN ESCALATED ON OUR VOTE TONIGHT ON HOME RULE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT HAD TO BE ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT AND TO MOVE FORWARD SINCE THAT VOTE HAS MOVED UP.
I DON'T LIKE SQUEEZING THEM INTO THIS TINY LITTLE BOX, UM, WHEN WE'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY SAID, NO, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THAT.
BUT THEN, OH, BY THE WAY, COME BACK.
I WANNA BE RESPONSIVE TO THEM, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEM THE DIRECTION.
I, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO GIVE THEM THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD.
I THINK THAT'S REALLY SOMETHING THAT OUR CITY STAFF COULD LOOK AT.
I THINK THEY SHOULD START WITH THE CHARTER COMMITTEE AND THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND ALSO GO OVER TO THE CHAMBER AND TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
THESE ARE TWO COMMITTEES THAT HAVE A PRETTY STRONG VOICE.
UM, BUT I DON'T SEE ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I'D LIKE LOOKED AT.
I DON'T THINK THE CHARTER COMMITTEE IS THE RIGHT PLACE TO START FOR THOSE REASONS, BUT I, I DO THINK THAT THEY SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE DISCUSSION ABSOLUTELY.
AND THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER IT.
SO I'M TRYING TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THEM, BUT CONVENING THEM AGAIN AND MAKING THIS HAPPEN THAT QUICKLY DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE BEST PROCEDURE.
CITY ATTORNEY, WHAT'S THE MAYOR TIMELINE AGAIN? MAYOR, IF I MAY? YEAH.
CITY, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON, UM, CHARTER, UH, FURTHER THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO PROVE, APPROVE SOMETHING FOR THE NEXT ELECTION? IS IT JUNE? WHAT? IT'S IN JUNE WAS THE DEADLINE FOR BALLOT LANGUAGE TO THE COUNTY.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBER MORALES, GO AHEAD.
UM, IF I MAY ASK COUNCIL MEMBER POST THEN, UH, WE SAID, STATED THAT THERE WERE A FEW ORGANIZATIONS THAT REQUESTED THIS.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M HEARING THAT THE CHAMBER, THE CHAMBER CHAMBER IS, IS ASKING FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE AN ETHIC COMMITTEE.
I HAVE NEVER HEARD ABOUT THAT BEFORE.
THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHAMBER HAS NEVER APPROACHED, UH, ME OR, UH, NEITHER DO I KNOW THAT IF THEY APPROACH OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT THEY, I WAS
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NOT APPROACHED ON THIS SUBJECT ASKING WHAT MY OPINION WAS OR WHETHER I NEEDED AND WHO ELSE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER STEIN IS, UH, ASKING FOR THIS AGAIN.COUNCIL MEMBER S WELL, I, I'M, I'M COMING FROM, THIS WAS A DISCUSSION FROM OUR CHARTER COMMITTEE THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT THEY BROUGHT UP THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED IN THE, IN TAKING A LOOK AT.
AND THIS IS ACTUALLY FROM THE HOW WE STAND DOCUMENT THAT THE CHAM CHANDLER CHAMBER DOES.
UM, I DON'T, I I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR THE PRESIDENT OF THE ORGANIZATION, BUT WHAT I DO KNOW ABOUT THE HOW WE STAND COMMITTEE IS THAT IT'S PUT TOGETHER, UM, THROUGH VARIOUS MEMBERS AND VOLUNTEERS WHERE THEY GO AND APPROACH ISSUES ALL ACROSS, UM, THE BUSINESS RELATED ISSUES, UM, IN A VARIETY.
I ACTUALLY HAVE A COPY OF THE HOW WE STAND DOCUMENT RIGHT HERE.
UM, AND SO THEY HAVE COMMITTEES MADE UP OF CHAMBER MEMBERS.
ACTUALLY, WE AS ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE INVITED TO BE ON THOSE COMMITTEES.
I DID NOT SIT ON THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR, BUT IT COVERS EVERYTHING FROM ECONOMIC, VITALITY, HEALTHCARE AND AFFORDABLE INSURANCE INFRASTRUCTURE, LEGAL AND TAX POLICY.
I WANNA JUST SHOW IT RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THEY TALK, THEY TALK ABOUT LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL ISSUES AND THIS IS ONE OF THE LOCAL ISSUES.
SO HAVING THOSE TWO ORGANIZATIONS YEAH.
I THINK IT'S JUST TRYING TO BE RESPONSIVE.
AND AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO COME UP WITH A SPECIFIC POLICY.
I'M JUST ASKING FOR STAFF TIME TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MORALE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSE.
I HAVE SAT ON, ON THAT, ON THOSE COMMITTEES BEFORE FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
I THINK THIS YEAR WAS THE FIRST TIME I HAD NOT REALLY CONSISTENTLY GO TO EVERY ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS, BUT THE LAST FOUR, UH, FIVE YEARS, I PRETTY MUCH HAVE BEEN TO EVERY ONE OF THOSE.
UM, AND, AND I DON'T THINK ETHIC, UM, HAD ALWAYS BEEN A STRONG STANCE, UH, FOR THOSE COMMITTEES AT THE TIME.
BUT IF WE ARE HAVING AN ISSUE AT THIS TIME, AGAIN, THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT THE MAYOR HAD ASKED.
UH, IS THERE AN ISSUE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO SOLVE? IF THERE WAS AN ISSUE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO SOLVE, UH, WITH THE ETHICS COMMITTEE BEING NOW, UH, PRESENT, UH, FROM THE HOW WE STAND DOCUMENT, AND I, I, I WOULD'VE LOVED TO HAVE AN IDEA, UH, WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE AT THIS POINT.
THE OTHER, UH, THING THAT I HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER PO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR ME OR ANYONE ELSE.
A MEMBER, MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL MIGHT BE ABLE TO OPEN.
ARE WE ALSO LOOKING INTO WHETHER, HOW DO WE RECEIVE DONATIONS FROM ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE COMING IN FRONT OF US? HOW DO, BECAUSE I HEARD YOU MENTION, UH, HOW DO WE RECEIVE A MEAL, HOW DO WE ALSO PRESENT OURSELVES? ARE THOSE THINGS ARE ALSO GOING TO BE PART OF, UH, IF, IF THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THEM, THE CONCERN THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS OR ALSO, UH, IS THERE OTHER THINGS WHETHER, HOW DO WE, UM, CONDUCT OURSELVES WHEN WE GO OUT, UH, WITH PROTOCOLS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT? UH, YES.
COUNCIL MEMBER PLEASE I DUNNO IF I CAN ANSWER.
I DUNNO IF I CAN ANSWER ALL OF THAT QUESTION, I MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER PART OF IT.
AND, AND, AND COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS, WE DO HAVE THE, UH, CHAMBER MEMBERS IN THE ROOM SO THAT THEY CAN CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, BUT I DO BELIEVE THIS HAS BEEN IN THEIR HOW WE STAND DOCUMENT, UM, SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE.
AND, AND, AND THAT WAS PART OF MY QUESTION AS WELL.
WHEN YOU SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I WONDER WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT AND WHAT THEY WERE SEEING AND WHAT DROVE THIS, THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT I'D LIKE ANSWERED AS WELL.
SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND FIND OUT WHAT DID DRIVE THAT.
AND IF I COULD JUST LOOK OVER AND ASK, THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME, IS IT IF, OR PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
UM, IT'S BEEN IN THERE FOR ABOUT PROBABLY ABOUT SEVEN YEARS.
IT'S BEEN IN THERE ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AND THIS IS BROUGHT NUMEROUS BUSINESS MEMBERS, UM, AND AGAIN, WE CHANGE IT AND UPDATE EVERY YEAR.
COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD HEAR THAT, BUT THAT WAS TERRY KIMBLE WHO HAD MENTIONED IT'S BEEN IN THEIR HOW WE STAND DOCUMENT FOR SEVEN YEARS BROUGHT TOGETHER BY VARIOUS BUSINESS MEMBERS.
I, I LIKE YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY, WHY THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT MADE THEM BRING THAT FORWARD? AGAIN THIS YEAR I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT A COUPLE OTHER THINGS IN THE HOW WE STAND DOCUMENT, BUT THEY'RE NOT AS SPECIFICALLY RATED RELATED TO COUNCIL.
SO I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION TO START WITH THE CHAMBER AND ASK AND THOSE BUSINESS MEMBERS AND SEE IF THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIVE AND HELP US FIGURE OUT WHAT EXACTLY THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS SEEING AND INTERESTED IN ALONG WITH OUR CHARTER COMMITTEE, FINDING OUT WHAT THEY ARE INTERESTED IN AND WHY IT WAS IMPORTANT TO THEM AS WELL.
BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS ANY ONE ORGANIZATION
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OR ANOTHER.I THINK THEY'RE, THEY ARE OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND WE SHOULD LISTEN TO THEM, BUT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN TAKING THAT BROAD SORT OF VIEW.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS, YOU BRING UP SOME INTERESTING POINTS.
I HADN'T THOUGHT OF SOME OF THOSE.
I AM OPEN TO LISTENING TO WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO SAY AND I'M, I'M HOPING THAT THAT IS THE KIND OF DIRECTION AND QUESTION THAT YOU WOULD ASK STAFF.
AT THIS TIME, UH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR CITY MANAGER.
I, I WOULD LIKE TO GET A A, A GOOD UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE ARE ASKING YOUR STAFF, OUR STAFF, UH, TO GET VESTED INTO THIS IN THIS TIME AROUND THIS PROCESS WHERE WE, WE HAVE A HOME RULE, WE HAVE ELECTIONS GOING ON, WE HAVE THE PLAN THAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT.
I MEAN, AT THIS POINT OUR ASSISTANT CAN ONLY EVEN ANSWER OUR EMAIL BASICALLY, OR JUST MANAGE OUR CALENDARS.
SO NOW WE ARE ASKING FOR TIME FOR THEM TO GO DEEPER INTO LOOKING, UM, TO BRING US BACK, UH, UH, VERY QUICKLY TURN AROUND, UM, ON THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE ARE, WE, ARE WE, WE HAVE THE CAPA CAPACITY AND THE, WITH BEN AS A MATTER OF FACT TO, TO ATTACH IT AT THIS TIME? OR WHAT IS YOUR OPINION RIGHT NOW FOR US AS A, UM, MAYOR AND COUNCIL WHEN IT COMES TO THIS MAYOR AND COUNCIL? UH, I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET, I CAN TELL YOU ONE OF THE THINGS WE CONSTANTLY TALK ABOUT IS THAT WE DO MORE WITH LESS AND THAT WE ARE LEAN AND MEAN.
AND SO I HAVE STAFF THAT IS, IS VERY BUSY.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHETHER THIS WAS SET TO THE CHARTER COMMISSION COMMITTEE OR WHETHER WE DID IT INDIVIDUALLY, WE STAFFED THE CHARTER COMMITTEE AND WE WOULD BE DOING THE LEGWORK FOR EITHER, EITHER WAY THAT THIS GOES.
AND OBVIOUSLY IF THIS BECOMES A COUNCIL PRIORITY, THEN STAFF WILL MAKE IT A PRIORITY.
SO WE WILL FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT WORK.
UM, I APPRECIATE YOU ACKNOWLEDGING HOW BUSY THEY ARE.
THEY ARE VERY BUSY RIGHT NOW, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THIS MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND WE WILL MAKE, UH, ALL DO EFFORTS TO MEET THE, THE NEEDS AND DESIRES THAT THEY PUT FORTH FOR US.
SO YOU ARE SAYING THAT IF WE SEND THIS BACK TO, TO, UH, THE CHARTER STAFF, WE'LL STILL BE THE ONE DOING THE LEGWORK WITH THE CHARTER? YES.
COUNCIL, MAYOR, AM I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS? YES.
WE STAFF THE CHARTER COMMITTEE.
SO IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT OTHER OPTIONS OUT THERE OR OPTIONS FOR THE CHARTER, WE WOULD BE THE ONES THAT WOULD DO THAT INVESTIGATION AND BRING IT BACK TO THEM.
THEY CAN OBVIOUSLY AS COMMITTEE MEMBERS DO ANY OF THEIR OWN RESEARCH THAT THEY CHOOSE TO DO OR THEY CAN ASK STAFF TO DO IT.
SO ULTIMATELY STAFF WILL BE INVOLVED WHETHER WE, WE SEND IT BACK TO CHARTER OR WHETHER WE TRY TO DO IT INTERNALLY.
SO THAT GIVE ME A COMFORT, NOT RIGHT NOW TO KNOW THAT WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER POSTED IS ASKING OF STAFF IS, CAN STILL BE SATISFIED THROUGH THE CHARTER, UH, IF WE SEND IT BACK TO THE CHARTER.
COUNCIL MEMBER POSTON, THEN VICE MAYOR.
UM, THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS.
I, I DID JUST WANT TO MENTION, AND I THINK I TALKED ABOUT IT BRIEFLY AT THE VERY BEGINNING AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO ASK STAFF TO TAKE I THINK ABOUT FOUR HOURS TO DO THE RESEARCH AND THAT THAT WAS A POSSIBILITY.
UM, I I WILL ADMIT TO BEING A LITTLE SURPRISED AT THE
AND I KNOW MAYOR, YOU AND I HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE AND I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS THAT, UM, IT'S DISAPPOINTING TO HAVE SEEN, UH, POLICIES WEAPONIZED WI AT AT OTHER CITIES.
I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY PART OF WHY I THINK THIS COUNCIL IS THE APPROPRIATE COUNCIL TO TAKE A PROACTIVE LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST RESPECTFUL, UM, AND RESPECTED I THINK COUNCILS THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE VALLEY.
I THINK WERE THE EXACT RIGHT ONES.
SO THAT BEING SAID, I WAS, I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT THAT, JUST TAKING A LOOK AT IT, WHETHER WE MOVE FORWARD OR NOT MOVE FORWARD, UM, IS, IS CREATING THIS.
BUT I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, I, I WAS WILLING TO TAKE A, YOU KNOW, MY STAFF HOURS TO GO AND LOOK AT THAT, BUT I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS THE APPROPRIATE APPROACH.
I WOULD IMAGINE THAT IF YOU FOUND OUT I WAS LOOKING INTO AN ETHICS POLICY ALL BY MYSELF AND I'M DIRECTING CITY STAFF TO DO THAT, THAT THAT WOULD'VE RAISED CONCERNS AS WELL.
I REALLY JUST THOUGHT THIS WAS THE BETTER FORUM TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AND HAVE THAT FEEDBACK BACK FROM MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, ALL OF US UP HERE, WE ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS HERE AND I FEEL THAT
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WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LEADING THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY AND WE HAVE A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY TO THAT AND TO OUR RESIDENTS.AND I FEEL LIKE AT SOME WE'RE HELD TO A CERTAIN STANDARD, UM, TO THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE OUR RESIDENTS.
SO TO ME, I LOOK AT THIS AS A FORM OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY.
SO FOR MYSELF, I AM OPEN TO LEARNING MORE ON WHAT THIS ACTUALLY LOOK LOOKS LIKE.
I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS IN REGARDS AS TO WHAT THIS MECHANISM WOULD ACTUALLY EVEN LOOK LIKE, WHETHER IT'S A POLICY, WHETHER WE TAKE, SEND IT TO THE CHARTER, WHETHER WE DO IT IN NOVEMBER, WHETHER WE DO IT IN A COUPLE YEARS, IT MAY TAKE SOME TIME BEFORE WE ACTUALLY PERFECT SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
BUT I THINK, UM, IT DOES HAVE VALUE IN SEEING WHAT IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE ON THERE.
SO QUESTION JUST, I, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE BOUNDARIES WERE, UM, OR ARE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO COVER ON THERE.
AND THEN LOOKING THROUGH SOME OF THESE, UM, EXAMPLES THAT YOU PROVIDED HERE FROM DIFFERENT CITIES AROUND, WANT TO KNOW KIND OF LIKE WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT IN A A, A CLAIM OR AN INCIDENT.
DOES IT TAKE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF RESIDENTS? DOES IT TAKE, UM, A CERTAIN NUMBER OF COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PUT IN A CLAIM? AND WHAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE THE OUTCOME? WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES IF A LEGITIMATE CLAIM WAS PROCESSED AND VALIDATED, WHAT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE AS WELL? SO I DO HAVE A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT QUESTIONS ON THIS AND, UH, I, AND ALL OF US HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS ON WHERE CAN AND CANNOT GO THERE.
SO I, I AM OPENING TO LEARNING A LITTLE BIT MORE ON SEEING WHAT STAFF CAN CAN COME AND RESEARCH AND BRING BACK TO US ON THIS.
UM, CITY ATTORNEY, TELL US AGAIN THE, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT IT SAYS IN THE LANGUAGE THERE THAT AN INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER CAN HAVE UP TO FOUR HOURS OR STAFF TIME FOR MORE THAN THAT, THE ENTIRE COUNCIL.
UM, THERE HAS TO BE A MAJORITY, I THINK IS, IS THE LANGUAGE THERE.
SO, UH, TELL US THIS IS A MONDAY NIGHT.
UM, I KNOW WE'RE MEETING AGAIN THURSDAY NIGHT.
WHAT WOULD BE A GOOD PATH TO DECIDE, UH, WHETHER THERE WAS INTEREST IN DOING THIS NOW AT THIS POINT? MAYOR, UM, THE RULES AS FAR AS PUTTING SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, AND THIS IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT AFFECTS THE COUNCIL.
UM, SO IT IS REALLY HELPFUL TO GET COUNCIL DIRECTION ON IT.
UM, THE RULES SAY THAT WE PUT DOWN STUDY SESSION, UM, IT CAN COME BACK, UM, THURSDAY FOR MORE DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION IF AN ORDINANCE OR A RESOLUTION NEED TO BE DRAFTED THAT WOULD, WE WOULD GET THAT DIRECTION, UM, ON THURSDAY AND THEN AND PROCEED ACCORDINGLY.
UM, SO REALLY WHAT WE NEED FROM THE COUNCIL IS DIRECTION, UM, BY A MAJORITY SO THAT WE CAN PROCEED WITH THAT DIRECTION.
OBVIOUSLY, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT, BUT WOULD BE WHAT WE NEED FOR STAFF IS JUST DIRECTION FOR MAJOR MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL ON HOW YOU WISH STAFF TO PROCEED.
UM, OBVIOUSLY NOTHING'S GONNA BE READY FOR THURSDAY.
IT WOULD JUST BE MORE DISCUSSION ON THURSDAY AND DIRECTION.
UM, THAT CAN BE DONE TONIGHT OR IT COULD BE DONE ON THURSDAY.
UM, SO THIS IS NOT, UH, YOU HAVEN'T SPOKEN YET.
I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO COVER WHAT WE ALREADY KIND OF HAVE ALREADY AS A COUNCIL, UM, BECAUSE, UM, CITY ATTORNEY, WHEN WE DO THE ONBOARDING, UM, YOU KIND OF LAY US, YOU GIVE US THE RIDE AT, BASICALLY YOU TELL US.
LIKE FOR INSTANCE, LIKE I'M AN, I'M AN ENTREPRENEUR, I'M A BUSINESS OWNER.
SO THERE'S PEOPLE I DO BUSINESS WITH HERE IN THE CITY OF CHANDLER.
AND WHEN WE FIRST START THAT CONVERSATION, I, I BASICALLY TELL YOU WHO I DO BUSINESS WITH, WHO I'VE CON WHO I HAVE CONTRACTS WITH IN THE CITY OF CHANDLER.
RIGHT? AND THEN YOU THEN TELL THEN IF THERE'S A VOTE THAT GIVES A DIRECT INTEREST, YOU BASICALLY PULL ME BY THE COATTAIL, SAY, HEY, THIS IS, I KNOW THIS IS ONE OF YOUR CLIENTS SO YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T VOTE ON THAT.
AND THEN, UM, WELL JUST WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO, JUST KIND OF TELL US, TELL THE PUBLIC WHAT'S THE ONBOARDING PROCESS IN TERMS OF LIKE WHAT DO YOU NORMALLY TELL US? I KNOW YOU TELL US ABOUT OUR BUSINESS, OUR BUSINESS ASSOCIATION.
CAN YOU JUST KIND OF GIVE US THAT SNIPPET OF WHAT YOU ALREADY TELL US THAT WE HAVE TO REPORT TO YOU, UM, AND WHAT YOU TELL US AS ELECTED OFFICIALS WHEN WE FIRST KIND OF COME ON BOARD.
YOU MAY NOT KNOW EVERYTHING 'CAUSE THIS IS AN ON THE SPOT QUESTION, BUT WHAT ARE SOME OF THE MAIN HIGHLIGHTS THAT YOU GIVE US? ARE YOU KIND OF ASKING FOR MAIN POTENTIAL VIOLATIONS? YES.
IF I MAY, MAYOR, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, WHEN EACH OF YOU'RE ONBOARDED, WE DO MEET WITH YOU INDIVIDUALLY AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT AND GO OVER WHAT IS REQUIRED BY THE STATE LAW THROUGH THE OPEN MEETING LAW, HOW TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS SO YOU DON'T VIOLATE THE OPEN MEETING LAW.
UM, HOW, UH, TO BRING THINGS FORWARD
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TO A MEETING, AGAIN TO AVOID VIOLATIONS OF THE OPEN MEETING LAW.WE ALSO TALK ABOUT CONFLICTS OF INTEREST AND THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS, UM, THE LEGAL POTENTIAL, LEGAL PENALTIES IN THE EVENT SOMEONE WERE TO VIOLATE, UM, THEIR OBLIGATIONS RELATING TO CONFLICTS OF INTEREST.
AND OF COURSE THAT GOVERNS THE INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, WHERE YOU HAVE A PECUNIARY INTEREST, WHETHER IT'S WITH A POTENTIAL CLIENT, WHETHER IT'S PROPERTY OWNED, THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA EDUCATE YOU UPFRONT AND THEN KEEP THAT DIALOGUE OPEN WITH YOU THROUGHOUT YOUR TENURE SO THAT IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE ARE CONCERNED POTENTIALLY COULD BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST OR YOUR CONCERN, WE HAVE THAT WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION SO THAT WE CAN EVALUATE THAT UNDER, UH, THE STATE LAW REQUIREMENTS.
UM, OF COURSE WE DO HAVE THE ANTI-BULLYING, ANTI-HARASSMENT, WHICH A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO THE COUNCIL VOTED TO REQUIRE COUNCIL NOT JUST CITY STAFF, BUT COUNCIL AND BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS TO COMPLY WITH.
AND THOSE, ANY VIOLATIONS OF THOSE ARE REPORTED TO OUR OFFICE.
THERE IS A PROCESS FOR INVESTIGATING, UM, UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT OTHER, THEN YOU HAVE YOUR COUNCIL RULES AND PROCEDURES THAT WAS DEVELOPED THROUGH A COUNCIL COMMITTEE.
UM, WE HAD SOME IN PLACE ALREADY AND THEN THAT THOSE WERE REVIEWED, UM, IN GREAT DETAIL AND REVISED AND BROUGHT BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION THAT GOVERNS HOW, UM, STAFF TIME IS USED, UH, HOW THINGS ARE PUT ON THE AGENDA, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
AND, AND YOU HAVE THOSE IN PLACE AS WELL.
THOSE ARE THE MAIN THINGS THAT COME TO MIND.
UM, SO WE HAVE, AND OF COURSE, AND ONE OTHER THING IF I MAY, I'M SORRY, UH, THE CHARTER REQUIREMENTS ON, UM, WHO DIRECT STAFF AND HOW OPERATIONS OCCUR IN THE CITY.
'CAUSE THERE ARE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS IN THE CHARTER THAT THE CITY MANAGER, DIRECT STAFF AND THAT COUNCIL, UM, SHOULD DEAL WITH, UM, THE CITY MANAGER FOR THOSE OPERATIONAL ISSUES AS WELL.
SO I THINK THAT IS, AS MUCH AS I CAN COME TO
NO, I WAS THE ONLY REASON WHY I WAS BRINGING THAT FORTH BECAUSE I KIND OF THAT THAT'S KIND OF HELPING GUIDE ME IN TERMS OF WHAT I KNOW THAT, AND NOW THE CITY MANAGER, UM, YOU HAVE RULES AND POLICIES.
CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT SOME OF THE RULES AND POLICIES THAT YOU HAVE THAT GOVERNS THIS PORTION ETHICS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? I KNOW THE CITY ATTORNEY TOUCHED ON A LITTLE BIT, BUT MAYOR COUNCIL, WE HAVE ADMIN RES AND SOME POLICIES THAT GOVERN KIND OF HOW EMPLOYEES INTERACT WITH THE PUBLIC AND HOW EMPLOYEES INTERACT.
UH, THEY CAN'T TAKE CERTAIN GIFTS.
THEY'VE GOTTA DO, YOU KNOW, WE, I CAN'T GIVE YOU EXACT SPECIFICS, COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT I'M GONNA TELL YOU, WE LOOK, WE LOOK AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT REGULATIONS THAT DON'T CREATE AN ETHICS POLICY, BUT THEY REFER TO ETHICS MM-HMM
SO WE SET OUT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES EXACTLY WHAT THEY EXPECTED THEM TO DO IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO MODIFY THEM OR CREATE NEW ONES WHEN WE FIND NEW SITUATIONS WE HAVEN'T DEALT WITH BEFORE.
SO THE BULLYING BEING A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE.
UH, SEXUAL HARASSMENT, ANY OF THOSE POLICIES THAT WE KIND OF SET OUT KIND OF GUIDE THE MORALS AND ETHICS OF OUR EMPLOYEES WHEN THEY'RE AT WORK.
SO, SO BASICALLY FROM, SO LIKE, SO WE HAVE THE COUNCIL RULES THAT KIND OF HELPS GOVERNS HOW WE MOVE.
AND THEN THERE'S THESE ADDED THINGS THAT YOU ADD ON THERE EVERY TIME.
YOU KNOW, WE ARE ADDING ON ADDITIONAL RULES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE CITY, THE CITY SIDE, WHICH KIND OF LAYS OUT LIKE WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO.
I GUESS THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I AL THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M LEANING IN IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT US TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM BECAUSE LIKE EVEN WITH, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE FOUR HOUR RULE THAT WE HAVE, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND EXTEND, BUT I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH OF THE FOUR HOURS THAT, UM, COUNCILMAN POSTON THAT YOU MAY HAVE USED OR NOT USED.
OR MAYBE YOU JUST SAY HOW I WANT IT BIGGER AND GRANULAR.
'CAUSE I, I KNOW THAT I SEND STAFF, I HAVE I DIRECT STAFF, UH, TO DO CERTAIN THINGS FOR ME.
AND UM, LIKE EVEN IF IT'S JUST GATHERING INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, HEY, I WANNA BRING SOMETHING FORTH TO COUNCIL AND I'VE DIRECTED, UH, CITY ATTORNEY.
I'VE DIRECTED CITY MANAGER TO, TO GET INFORMATION TOGETHER FOR ME.
I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF, IF YOU'VE USED ALL YOUR FOUR HOURS OF STAFF TIME, 'CAUSE I'M HEARING YOU SAYING, HEY, I JUST WANT A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME WITH STAFF TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, BUT THEN I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU ALREADY HAD STARTED USING YOUR FOUR HOURS OF TIME OR IF THERE'S LIKE A HANGUP IN THAT FOUR HOURS OF TIME THAT YOU GET TO DIRECT TO STAFF.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF MY, UM, BIG THINGS THAT I WANTED TO KIND OF, UM, BRING FORWARD.
BUT, UM, IF, IF THE CHARTER, IF STAFF IS BEING USED WITH THE CHARTER, I WOULD PREFER TO GO TO THE CHARTER BECAUSE IF WE'RE GONNA, IF WE CAN ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS, LIKE GRAB YOUR FOUR HOURS OF TIME, GET WHAT YOU WANNA PULL TOGETHER BECAUSE WE'RE,
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THERE IS GONNA HAVE TO BE A DIRECTION THAT YOU, YOU WILL EVENTUALLY HAVE TO GIVE TO, TO THE TEAM.WE WILL HAVE TO BE FINDING A WAY TO, TO SOLVE A PROBLEM.
THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M IN.
LIKE, HOW DOES THAT, WHAT PROBLEM ARE WE SOLVING? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE BRINGING FORTH THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE HEARD FROM THE ELECTEDS? AND THEN LIKE WHEN WE LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? IS THERE SOMETHING HAPPENING ON COUNCIL THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING THAT WE SHOULD BE AWARE OF AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
HAVE THAT BEEN REVIEWED WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE EACH COUNCIL MEMBER IS ALLOWED, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE AN ISSUE, THEY CAN, THEY CAN INVOLVE A CITY ATTORNEY, THEY CAN GET THE CITY ATTORNEY, OR THEY CAN REQUEST THEIR OWN ATTORNEY FOR, FOR THEIR OWN, FOR THE, FOR THE USE OF THE PURPOSE OF DOING SOMETHING WITHIN THE CITY.
SO I GUESS, I GUESS KIND OF WHERE I'M AT IS THAT IF, IF YOU MAXIMIZE YOUR FOUR HOURS AND THEN IT GOES TO THE CHARTER AND THEN THEY GET TO MAXIMIZE WHATEVER DIRECTION YOU'RE GIVING, WHATEVER DIFFERENT THINGS YOU'RE GATHERING, SEND IT OVER TO THE CHARTER CHARTER'S ALREADY GONNA HAVE STAFF CONNECTED TO IT.
AND THEN AS THERE'S ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD, YOU CAN WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND SAY, HEY, ADD THIS TO THE CHARTER CONVERSATION.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD PATHWAY, BUT I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A DIRECTION, LIKE WHAT IS THE FINAL DIRECTION, WHAT IS THE FINAL THING? BECAUSE I DO KIND OF HAVE CONCERNS NOT FROM A, UM, LIKE THE INTERNAL PART, WHICH IS CITY, CITY ALREADY HAS ETHIC POLICIES THAT'S GOVERNED BY, AND THEN COUNCIL HAVE POLICIES THAT WE'RE GOVERNED BY AS WELL.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WHATEVER THE PROBLEM THAT WE ARE SOLVING, THAT WE FIND THAT THING AND WE SOLVE IT.
AND THE QUESTION THEN I WILL HAVE TO ASK TO YOU, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE RESIDENTS NEED TO SOLVE? WHICH, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THE OPTION OF RECALLING COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, THEY HAVE THE OPTIONS OF COMING HERE TO TESTIFY TO REBUKE COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHICH THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
UM, OR THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO, THEY, I MEAN, WE GOT A WHOLE ELECTION COMING UP.
THEY HAVE A WHOLE OPTION THERE TOO.
SO I'M JUST KIND OF MAKING SURE THAT IF WE, IF WE SAY WE WANT SOMETHING, UM, SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S NOT BEING GOVERNED THAT YOU SEE THAT NEEDS TO BE GOVERNED, THEN I WOULD WANT TO SEE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT THING WORKED OUT.
UM, BUT WE'VE ALSO SEEN EXAMPLES OF HOW THESE THINGS GET OUTTA CONTROL AND, UM, HOW BAD CHARACTERS WITH THE WRONG TYPE OF ELECTED LEADERSHIP COULD GET IN PLACE AND CREATE, UM, REALLY NASTY STUFF.
AND I, I WOULD JUST SAY, JUST, JUST THINKING ABOUT LIKE ORDINANCES, ORDINANCES CONTROLLED BY THE COUNCIL, THAT'S A FOUR PERSON VOTE.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S CONTROLLED BY COUNCIL.
IF YOU TALK ABOUT A RESOLUTION THAT'S CONTROLLED BY A VOTE, THAT'S A CITY THAT'S MORE OF A CITY POLICY AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND HOW IT'S GOVERNED.
IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A PROCLAMATION THAT SAYS, HEY, WE PRACTICE ETHICS EVERY SINGLE DAY, THAT'S MORE OF A AWARENESS THAT WE ARE CONSTANTLY ON IT.
BUT OUR CITY ATTORNEY IS ALSO TASKED WITH THAT RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP US IN LINE AND TO BRING, IF THERE ARE ISSUES THAT IS BROUGHT FORTH, SHE'S TASKED TO BRING THAT FORTH.
SO I JUST KIND OF WANNA MAKE SURE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER POSTON THAT IF WE'RE SOLVING A PROBLEM, BOOM, LET'S LET'S FIGURE OUT ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'RE SOLVING.
BUT I DO THINK THAT THE BEST, BUT I, I'M THINKING THAT THE, THE METHOD TO GET THERE IS TO GO THROUGH THE CHARTER.
IF WE'RE GONNA GO DOWN THAT PATH, GO THROUGH THE CHARTER REVIEW TEAM, SINCE WE ALREADY HAVE A COMMITTEE TOGETHER TO, TO DO IT.
SO I'M JUST KIND OF, I I THREW A LOT OUT THERE, BUT I'M JUST KIND OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE GOING BASICALLY.
SO CAN I JUST ASK, I, I DO WANNA ASK A QUESTION OF YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN STARTING WITH THE CHARTER COMMITTEE.
UM, WE HAVE A WHOLE OTHER ORGANIZATION THAT ACTUALLY AND OF BUSINESS PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY ALSO HAD AN OPINION, THEY WERE NOT PART OF THAT CHARTER COMMITTEE, ARE YOU, ARE, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN INCLUDING THEM OR EXCLUDING THEM? BECAUSE IF THIS GOES DIRECTLY TO THE CHARTER COMMITTEE, THEY WERE NOT A PART OF THAT COMMITTEE.
THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY PART OF WHY I THINK IT STARTS WITH STAFF AND TO MOVE DOWN THAT DIRECTION.
I ALSO DO AGREE, I LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO'S, I THINK IT WAS COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO'S IDEA OF STARTING WITH THE POLICIES THAT OUR OWN CITY STAFF HAVE.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN KIND OF A TRIED AND PROVEN PROCESS AND GOING IN THAT DIRECTION.
BUT I THINK WE NEED TO ASK THE QUESTION AT LEAST OF THE MEMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS FOR SEVEN YEARS IN ADDITION TO THE CHARTER COMMITTEE.
SO I, I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE HOW YOU, WHERE YOU STAND ON THAT.
WELL, MAYOR, MAYOR, MAY I RESPOND PLEASE? UM, I GUESS, I GUESS THE THING IS THAT IT IS, UM, IT'S NOT LIKE I, I THINK THAT WHAT I WOULD THINK WE SHOULD START AT WOULD BE YOU UTILIZING YOUR FOUR HOURS OF TIME.
THAT'S WHERE I WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH YOU.
UTILIZE YOUR FOUR HOURS OF TIME, YOUR FOUR HOURS OF
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TIME, YOU KNOW, YOU DIRECT STAFF, YOU TELL STAFF WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.THEY COME BACK WITH YOUR FOUR HOURS OF TIME AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO GATHER DURING YOUR FOUR HOURS OF TIME, DURING YOUR FOUR HOURS OF DIRECTION.
THEN COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND SAY, HEY, I NEED TWO MORE HOURS, THREE MORE HOURS BECAUSE I'M STILL TRYING TO GET THIS THROUGH.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK IF WE'RE GONNA, 'CAUSE I WHAT I, WHAT WHAT ESSENTIALLY WHAT I'M HEARING OR INTERPRETING.
WE JUST WANT TO HAVE A BIG ROBUST CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.
AND WE WANTED IT TO BE AT A MAXIMUM UNLIMITED MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF TIME.
BUT THEN STAFF IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, STAFF ARE, ARE EXPERTS.
SO THEY'RE GONNA GO AND SAY, HEY, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOVE SOMETHING ACROSS THE TOWN OR IF YOU'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING, OUR STAFF IS GONNA GO AND FIND THAT SOLUTION BECAUSE STAFF IS, WE'RE DIRECTING STAFF TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO PROBLEMS. BUT IF YOU DON'T TAKE YOUR FOUR HOURS AND GATHER YOUR INFORMATION THAT YOU WANNA SOLVE AND, AND LIST OUT THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SOLVE, THEN STAFF WOULD JUST BRING BACK A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT MAY NOT BE TO YOUR BENEFIT TO HELP YOU LEAD OR CHAMPION AT IS, IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
THAT, AND I THINK THAT IF YOU DON'T UTILIZE YOUR FOUR HOURS, UH, IF YOU DON'T UTILIZE THAT, THEN COMING TO US AND SAY, HEY, I WANT YOU TO HELP OUT.
MAYBE ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER CAN GIVE YOU TWO OF THEIR HOURS FOR THAT SAME PROJECT AND YOU CAN PARTNER UP AND NOW YOU CAN HAVE SIX HOURS TO WORK TOWARDS IT.
I JUST KIND OF WANT TO MAKE SURE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
KELLY GAVE ME THE WEIRD EYE, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, CAN WE USE THE, I'M JUST SAYING IF YOU USE YOUR FOUR HOURS CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, THEN ONCE YOU, ONCE YOU GET THE RESULTS FROM YOUR FOUR HOURS THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE, THEN COME BACK AND HAVE THAT ROBUST CONVERSATION WITH COUNSEL AND SAY, I NEED SOME DIRECTION.
BUT I THINK THAT IF YOU SAY I'M GOING TO, I'M GONNA JUMP THE GUN AND, AND, AND SAY I NEED COUNCIL BUY-IN FOR IT BEFORE I USE UTILIZE MY FOUR HOURS FOR STAFF TIME, THEN I THINK WE'RE MOVING TOO FAST.
WELL, IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH ALL THE DIRECTION COMING FROM ME, I DON'T THINK
I, I LIKE THAT'S THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
BUT I, I DON'T, I KNOW, I THINK, I THINK WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT OUR FOUR HOURS OF TIME ALLOWS YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO COLLECTIVELY PUT TOGETHER THE PROBLEM THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SOLVE.
IT ALLOWS STAFF TO KIND OF GATHER INFORMATION AND YOU GIVE STAFF DIRECTIONS IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
YOUR FOUR HOURS OF TIME ALLOWS ME TO TELL THE CITY ATTORNEY, I NEED YOU TO DO THIS, THIS, AND THIS.
'CAUSE THEY GET DONE WITH STUFF PRETTY FAST.
I'VE ASKED FOR STUFF AND IT'S CAME BACK WITHIN THAT FOUR HOUR TIME.
SO WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU, WOULD IT BE BEHOOVING FOR BEHOOVE YOU TO USE YOUR FOUR HOURS, GO TALK TO STAFF, GATHER INFORMATION THAT YOU FEEL, AND IF YOU FEEL LIKE IT NEEDS, THERE'S A PROBLEM THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SOLVE, COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND SAY, HEY, I NEED MORE TIME.
UM, BECAUSE JOHN SAYS I'M OUT OF TIME AND NOW HE'S ON THE FIFTH HOUR AND HE SAID, YOU'RE OUT OF TIME.
I NEED MORE TIME TO GATHER MORE INFORMATION IS WHAT I'M SAYING BECAUSE I RIGHT NOW, I FEEL THAT IF WE, IF I SAY YES TO THIS, NOT THAT I DON'T DISAGREE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SOLVE, I HAVE TO SAY YES TO THE PROBLEM YOU'RE TRYING TO SOLVE.
AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALREADY, SINCE YOU'RE GONNA LEAD THIS, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALREADY USE YOUR APPROPRIATE, I'M ASKING NOT TO LEAD THIS.
I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL TO LEAD ON THIS.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S I'LL, I'LL LET, I'LL LET MAYOR QUESTION.
SO YOU COUNCIL OVER HERE, I JUST, WE HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
YOU YOU GOT WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH.
DOES ANYONE NEED ANY MORE CLARIFICATION?
UM, I THINK PART OF THE PROBLEM SHE'S STRUGGLING WITH, NOT SO MUCH SO FAR AS A TIME, IS IMPLEMENTING A POLICY.
WHAT I HEARD HER SAY IS, IMPLEMENTING A POLICY THAT AFFECTS THE COUNCIL.
I THINK SHE FEELS LIKE IT SHOULD BE A COUNCIL, UH, DECISION.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE SHE WAS DRIVING IT EARLIER TODAY.
SO THE TIME ELEMENT'S ONE THING, BUT I THINK IT'S MORE OF APPROPRIATE AT THE TIME ELEMENT.
SO I, THE OTHER THING I WANT TO ASK, UM, WHEN WE DID THE BULLY POLICY, I WAS ON THE COUNCIL, WAS THERE AN ISSUE, IF I MAY, MAYOR, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO? THERE WAS NOT, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY SPECIFIC ISSUE THAT PROMPTED THE EXTENSION OF THAT POLICY TO THE COUNCIL AND THE BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS.
SO IT WAS IT, WHEN WE DID THE NON-DISCLOSURE ORDINANCE, WAS THERE AN ISSUE? THE NON-DISCRIMINATION, I MEAN THE, THE NON-DISCRIMINATION ORDINANCE.
WAS THERE AN ISSUE? AGAIN, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE THAT PROMPTED THAT.
SO THOSE WERE ITEMS THAT WERE EDUCATIONAL.
THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT GAVE US GUIDELINES THAT IF IT DID HAPPEN, BULLYING OR DISCRIMINATION, WE HAVE A DOCUMENT TO GO TO TO SAY THIS IS HOW WE'LL HANDLE IT.
NO, IS COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL, I KNOW, BUT YOUR DIRECT YOUR DIRECTOR, YOUR STATEMENTS TOWARDS ME, COUNCIL MEMBER AND I HAVE NO, I'M JUST, I'M, I WENT THIS WAY.
WELL, NO, YOU, YOU DIRECT YOUR STATEMENT TOWARDS ME.
COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO'S DOING A GOOD JOB OF ARTICULATING WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
BUT YOU DIRECT, BUT YOU DIRECTED YOUR, YOU DIRECTED YOUR COMMENTS TOWARDS ME.
UM, I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH THE IDEA.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT SHE POINT, POINT OF, I HAD IT'S NOT POINT.
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YOU DIRECTED YOUR STATEMENTS TOWARDS ME.HARRIS, YOU'VE GOTTA BE RECOGNIZED FOR ME TO TALK.
MAYOR, YOU STILL HAVE THE FLOOR COUNCIL.
COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU LOOK DIRECTLY AT ME.
ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER, LOOK, I LOVE YOU.
I'D RATHER BE LOOKING AT HER ANYWAY.
SHE'S BETTER LOOKING THAN YOU.
SO I'M NOT LOOKING AT YOU PERSONALLY.
ALL I'M TRYING TO BRING, THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE HERE IS, AND WE HAVE OTHER POLICIES.
WHEN YOU PUT TOGETHER ETHICS POLICY, ALL THESE OTHER POLICIES, THEY'RE NOT POLICIES THAT SAY SOMETHING HAPPENED.
THERE'S SOMETHING TO GIVE US GUIDELINES THAT IF SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN.
SO THAT'S ALL WE'RE SAYING HERE.
THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BULLY POLICY, THE NON-DISCRIMINATION ORDINANCE, THIS POLICY, OR ANY OTHER POLICY WE'VE DONE.
WELL, ANY POLICY WE'VE DONE THAT WE'RE DOING HERE TONIGHT, WE'RE JUST HAVING A COUNCIL MEMBER ASK.
AND FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF OTHER CITIES HAVE IT IN THE CHARTER.
DO THEY HAVE IT IN THE CHARTER? I DON'T KNOW.
SO UNTIL WE ASK THESE QUESTIONS, THEN WE COULD MAYBE FORMULATE A BETTER DECISION LATER ON.
SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM NO MORE THAN THOSE OTHER EXAMPLES I JUST USED.
THERE WAS NO PROBLEM TO SOLVE.
WE WANTED TO BE AVAILABLE, WE WANTED TO BE PROACTIVE LOOKING AT SOMETHING.
IF IT DOES HAPPEN, AT LEAST WE HAVE GUIDANCE VERSUS SOMETHING THAT DOES HAPPEN AND WE HAVE NO GUIDANCE ON IT.
THAT'S ALL WE'RE SAYING HERE TONIGHT.
SO I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION.
UM, I'M HOPING WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND GIVE THE COUNCIL MEMBER THE, UM, THE COUNCIL COULD AT LEAST SAY, LET'S LOOK AT THIS.
LET'S ASK SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS.
COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER HAR, UM, ELLIS HAD GOOD QUESTIONS.
I THINK THEY'RE VERY RELEVANT.
MAYOR, YOU HAD SOME GOOD QUESTIONS.
YOU ASKED SOME WELL HAD GOOD QUESTIONS HERE.
WE HAVE QUESTIONS BUT NO ANSWERS.
SO UNTIL WE GO SEEK THOSE ANSWERS, THEN WE COME BACK WITH SOMETHING TO BE DELIBERATE AND WE MAY DECIDE NOT TO DO IT AT ALL.
OR WE MAY DECIDE TO, TO DO BOTH THE CHARTER COMMITTEE IF I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT A CHARTER WOULD EVEN ADDRESS OTHER THAN HAVE A POLICY.
SO THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING TONIGHT.
SO THAT, THAT'S MY SUGGESTION.
WE JUST MOVE FORWARD, GET SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
I'M SURE YOU GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS YOU'RE DOING THERE.
CITY CLERK, YOU'RE PROBABLY, ALL THESE QUESTIONS ARE YOU'RE TAKING DOWN THAT WE COULD BE ADDRESSING IN THE FUTURE.
MAYOR, CAN I RESPOND? MAYOR? THANK YOU.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, UM, MY PROBLEM IS NOT THE ACTUAL POLICY BRINGING FORTH, WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO AS A SENIOR COUNCIL MEMBER HERE IS TRYING TO HELP PROVIDE WHAT I THINK WILL BE A BETTER SOLUTION TO THE PROCESS, WHICH IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE COUNCIL MEMBER POLSON DO, IS TO TAKE HER FOUR HOURS AND DIRECT STAFF AND GATHER WHAT SHE CAN, THEN COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH SOME POINTED DIRECTION THAT SHE WANTS US TO SOLVE.
I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH THE IDEAL OF THAT AND WE CAN EXPERIENCE IT.
BUT WHAT I WANT COUNCILMAN POSTON, IS TO DO THE WORK THAT I'VE, I'VE PASSED SEVERAL, SEVERAL, I WON'T LOOK AT YOU, BUT I PASSED SEVERAL, SEVERAL POLICIES AND ORDINANCES AND I'VE LED AND CHAMPIONED THEM.
I KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS WITH THE COMMUNITY.
I KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO KIND OF GO THROUGH A, UM, TO UNDERSTAND THE GATHERING OF INFORMATION.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO BE PUSHED BACK ON STAFF, BUT I ALSO HOLD THEM TO THE FIRE AND, AND AT TIMES, UM, AND DIRECT STAFF WILL TELL YOU AT TIME THEY SAY, YOU'RE OUT OF TIME.
I, I'VE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY.
YOU GOTTA GET ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER TO GET ON BOARD WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
WHAT I'M SAYING HERE, IF WE'RE GOING, I AM TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM AND I'M TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT PROBLEM WE'RE GONNA SOLVE AND WHAT DIRECTION WE'RE GONNA GO, WHAT I DON'T WANNA DO IS GIVE A BROAD, A BROAD RANGE OF INFORMATION TO STAFF AND SAY, COME BACK WITH SOMETHING AND THEY CAN BE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS SPECIFICALLY FIND THAT.
AND WHAT I WANT TO DO WITH, UM, GIVING COUNCIL MEMBER POSTON, WHO WANTS TO LEAD THIS, UM, UH, I WANT HER TO LEAD THIS.
I WANT HER TO DO THAT WORK THAT IT'S GONNA TAKE TO GET IT DONE.
AND I WANT HER TO GO WITH HER FOUR HOURS AND DIRECT STAFF AND GET INFORMATION, THEN COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND SAY, HEY, I NEED MORE TIME.
UM, BECAUSE I WASN'T ABLE TO GET THE INFORMATION.
THAT'S WHAT I'M REQUESTING OF COUNCILMAN POSTON.
THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT A FAR REQUEST TO SAY THAT.
IT'S A REQUEST THAT SAYS IF YOU'RE GOING TO LEAD THE ORDINANCE OR A POLICY, YOU GOTTA DO THE WORK.
I DON'T WANT TO BE TIED TO DOING THE WORK.
I WOULD RATHER YOU GO OUT AND GET THE WORK, DO IT, USE YOUR FOUR HOURS, COME BACK AND SAY, I NEED MORE HOURS.
AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF HAVE A ROBUST CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.
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AND THEN YOU COME BACK WITH A SPECIFIC POINTED SOL, A SPECIFIC POINTED POLICY THAT HELPS YOU SOLVE THE PROBLEM THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SOLVE.THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO, BUT I'M NOT INTERESTED IN DOING BROAD STRIPES OF INFORMATION.
IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN I'LL JUST MAKE UP STUFF AND TELL 'EM TO GO OUT AND DO A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF.
STAFF MUST HAVE A POINTED DIRECTION TO GO.
AND RIGHT NOW I FEEL THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE INFORMATION FOR YOU TO GIVE THEM GUIDANCE AND TELL THEM, I WANT YOU TO GO DO THIS WITH YOUR FOUR HOURS, THEN COME BACK TO US AND SAY, I NEED MORE TIME.
THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR YOU TO DO.
I'M NOT SAYING STOP YOUR PROCESS, BUT I AM SAYING LET'S CONSIDER YOUR FIRST FOUR HOURS AND THEN LET'S COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT IT.
THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING, COUNSEL.
I'M NOT SURE WE'RE GETTING ANYWHERE WITH THIS.
WE'RE JUST RESTATING OUR POSITIONS.
I, I WAS LETTING, LEMME GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER POSTON, THEN I'M GONNA GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS.
AND THEN I, I THINK WE WILL, I'LL, I'M GONNA CLOSE CONVERSATIONS AT THAT POINT.
UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, IF, IF I THINK IT'S SO EASY TO SAY WHAT'S THE PROBLEM YOU'RE TRYING TO SOLVE? AND I THINK I'VE ANSWERED THAT QUESTION OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
I THINK I'M TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO US BY OUR RESIDENTS AND BE RESPONSIVE TO THAT.
UM, I LIKE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO SAID, THE, THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IS THAT, UM, I HAVE NEVER BEEN AFRAID TO DO THE WORK EVER.
SO I REALLY DON'T LIKE THE IMPLICATION THAT I AM AND THAT I HAVEN'T DONE THE WORK AND THAT I'M NOT DOING THE WORK.
BUT WHEN I DID THE WORK, I GOT MORE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS, AND I FELT IT WAS MORE APPROPRIATE TO BRING IT HERE TO COUNCIL.
IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT ALL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS DECIDE THAT YOU WANT ME TO TAKE THE LEAD, THEN I, I WILL DO THAT AND I WILL USE MY OWN BEST DISCRETION.
I REALLY FEEL LIKE I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED AT THE PUSHBACK, BUT I REALLY DO FEEL LIKE THAT THIS IS A COUNCIL DECISION.
AS A COUNCIL, AS A BODY, NOT A SPECIFIC COUNCIL MEMBER.
I'M, I'M HAPPY TO GO AND DO THAT, BUT I FIND IT SURPRISING THAT YOU WOULDN'T WANNA BE A PART OF IT.
COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS, THEN I'M GONNA CLOSE THE CONVERSATION AFTER MY COMMENTS.
COUNCIL MEMBER S THANK YOU, MAYOR.
I, I TEND TO REALLY LISTEN SINCE I'M NOT IN THE ROOM.
I'M REALLY LISTENING TO THE WORDS.
AND WHEN, WHEN IT WAS ASKED, WERE THERE A PROBLEM WITH BULLYING? YES, THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH BULLYING BECAUSE, UH, THE SCHOOL, THE STUDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY, EVERYBODY, WE DID HAVE A, AN ORDINANCE OF BULLYING ALREADY CONCERNING THE, THE PUBLIC, THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
AND THEN ON COUNCIL, WHEN I CAME ON COUNCIL AND OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL BEFORE WHO HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SPOKE DOWN TO OR OVERLY SPOKE OVER AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, WE FELT THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE THAT.
THERE MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN A COMPLAINT, SPECIFIC COMPLAINT ABOUT BULLYING AND CONS OF, BUT IT WAS IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND WE WANTED TO ELEVATE IT TO THAT LEVEL THAT IT DID NOT HAPPEN WITH CONS OR CONS.
ALSO BULLYING PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, NOT NECESSARILY UP WITH EACH OTHER, BUT ALSO THE COMMUNITY.
SECOND, WHEN IT COMES TO DISCRIMINATION ORDINANCE, SAME THING.
I REMEMBER CLEARLY PEOPLE WHO WERE RUNNING FOR, FOR COUNCIL AT THE TIME, COMING TO SPEAK TO COUNCIL MEMBERS INTO THE FORM OF THE CHAMBER, LETTING US KNOW THAT THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS IN THE COMMUNITY WITH ALL OTHER THINGS THAT WERE HAPPENING, CONSIDERING THE, THE CASES THAT WERE BEING BROUGHT BEFORE US, STUDENTS FROM THE SCHOOL WHO WERE BEING ALSO DISCRIMINATED AGAINST, WERE COMING TO US ON A DAILY BASIS ASKING FOR THIS.
SO THERE WAS AN ISSUE AND A PROBLEM THAT WE WERE TRYING TO SAY.
THAT BEING SAID, UH, SAID, UH, I, I AGREE TO THE FACT THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FULLTON STATED THAT SHE'S NEVER AFRAID OF DOING THE WORK.
AND, AND I KNOW YOU WHAT YOU SAID CONCERNING THAT I AGREE WITH YOU THAT, UH, I'VE SEEN YOU DO THE WORK.
I'VE SEEN YOU WANT TO, TO GO FORWARD AND, AND MAKE IT HAPPEN.
WELL, MAYBE THIS IS ANOTHER TIME WHERE WE NEED TO FOLLOW THAT, THAT PROCESS AGAIN AND GO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
UM, I AM ALL INTO MAKING SURE THAT STAFF IS INVOLVED IN GETTING THE INFORMATION WE NEED IN ORDER FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, TO SEE IF THIS THING IS GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ALL RALLY AROUND TO MAKE SOMETHING MEANINGFUL HAPPEN OF IT.
BUT RIGHT NOW, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.
UM, THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THESE DOCUMENTS.
AND YOU KNOW, I I WAS THE ONE THAT GOT THIS
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GOING AND I WORKED HARD WITH THE COUNCIL THERE BEFOREHAND, GOT EVERYONE ON BOARD.I WORKED WITH STAFF TO DO THE ANTI-BULLYING THING.
AND I, I'M NOT SENSING A CONSENSUS HERE OF WHAT TO DO, BUT COUNSEL, I'M GONNA SUGGEST THURSDAY WE WILL COME AND GIVE DIRECTION.
I DON'T SENSE THAT THAT IS HERE TONIGHT.
UH, BUT AGAIN, I WAS QUITE CLEAR WHAT I WANTED TO DO.
I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT COUNCIL BULLYING STAFF.
I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT BOARD MEMBERS ACTING OUT IN, IN PROPRIETY WAYS TO STAFF.
AND I HAD A VERY CAREFUL CLOSE MISSION OF WHAT I WANTED TO DO WITH THIS, AND THIS CONTAINED IT.
AND I KNOW FOR ME, I'M, I'M, I NEED TO KNOW, I NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE MISSION IS.
AND I, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND, BUT IT'S NOT RESONATING WITH ME IN TERMS OF EXACTLY WHAT'S THE SCOPE.
IF IT'S, IF IT IS INDEED WE WANT TO DO LIKE A TEMPE, OR IF WE WANNA DO LIKE A MESA, THEN IT IS AN ORDINANCE CHANGE BECAUSE WE'RE A CHARTER CITY, NOT AN ORDINANCE CHANGE.
I'M SORRY, IT'S A CHARTER CHANGE BECAUSE THAT GIVES TEETH THEN TO REMOVE A COUNCIL MEMBER IF IT'S, IF IT'S TO LOOK AT, UH, HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU TAKE? UH, IS $5 DINNER OKAY? SHOULD IT BE THIS? WE'VE GOT A, WE, WE'VE GOT SOME THINGS ON THERE IF YOU WANT TO CODIFY THAT, THAT'S AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT MOVE.
BUT BEFORE, I KNOW I'M INTERESTED IN OPENING UP A ETHICS COMMITTEE.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW, AS I KNEW WHEN I DID THIS, WHAT'S THE SCOPE AND WHERE YOU WANNA GO.
AND COUNCIL ALONG SUGGESTS THURSDAY, THIS HAS BEEN A GOOD DISCUSSION AND I WANNA THANK YOU FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, I I LOVE PASSIONATE COUNCIL.
I I DO, WE DON'T HAVE TO AGREE TO GET THINGS DONE.
SO, UM, I DON'T SENSE A A CLEAR EITHER WAY HERE TONIGHT.
AND, UH, WE'LL SEE WHERE WE ARE ON THURSDAY AND THAT WILL EITHER GIVE DIRECTION TO FURTHER YOUR HOURS, BUT I'D SUGGEST NARROW DOWN EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
AND, UH, WITH THAT, I THINK YOU'VE GOT SOME SUGGESTIONS AND THOUGHTS HERE THAT DIFFERENT HAVE SHARED WITH YOU.
UM, IT ISN'T ANY COUNCIL MEMBER'S JOB TO VOTE ON THIS, BUT IT IS IN ORDER TO, I THINK IT'S OUR JOB TO CONVINCE OTHERS THAT THIS IS WHAT WE WANNA DO.
AND, AND THAT I'M GOING TO LEAVE TO YOU BETWEEN NOW AND THURSDAY TO SEE WHETHER YOU HAVE, UH, THE ABILITY OR THAT IF THERE'S INTEREST IN MM-HMM
OUR MORE CLARITY BEFORE WE GATHER ON THURSDAY TO UNDERSTAND.
THANK NO ONE, THANK YOU FOR THE DISCUSSION.
UM, I THINK THE FACT THAT WE DO HAVE SUCH A DIVERSE VARIETY OF OPINIONS IS EXACTLY WHERE I WAS LANDING AND WHY I WANTED TO BRING IT TO US AS A COUNCIL, AS A BODY.
I STILL BELIEVE THIS IS A DECISION THAT SHOULD BE MADE BY ALL OF COUNCIL.
UM, AND IF ALL OF COUNCIL ISN'T WILLING TO MOVE FORWARD AND GIVE THAT DIRECTION TO STAFF, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL, AND AT LEAST WE'VE HAD THE DISCUSSION AND I BROUGHT IT FORWARD.
AND I AM GETTING IN A VERY PUBLIC FORWARD THAT YOU HAVE A COMFORT LEVEL WITH ME LEADING THIS BY MYSELF WITH, UM, AND, AND BEING THE ONE TO GIVE THAT DIRECTION.
SO I DIDN'T FEEL THAT COMFORT LEVEL BEFORE TO GO OFF BY MYSELF AND USE MY FOUR HOURS TO GO AND DIRECT STAFF ABOUT SOMETHING THAT AFFECTS THIS ENTIRE BODY.
I REALLY THOUGHT THAT THE BEST, THIS WAS THE BEST APPROACH.
SO, UM, JUST THURSDAY, I'LL, I'LL DO A LITTLE HOMEWORK IN THE MEANTIME, BUT WHEN WE COME BACK, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S CLARITY THAT IF WE AREN'T DIRECTING STAFF IN THIS WAY, THAT THERE IS A COMFORT LEVEL WITH ME TAKING THE LEAD ON THIS.
SO THAT'S REALLY THE, THE SORT OF, UM, THE SORT OF OPTIONS THAT I WAS WEIGHING.
I REALLY THOUGHT THIS WAS THE BEST APPROACH.
UH, I STILL THINK IT'S THE BEST APPROACH THAT WE AS A BODY SHOULD BE GIVING DIRECTION ABOUT WHERE WE SHOULD GO AS A COUNCIL.
UM, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THIS DISCUSSION AND DIVERSITY OF OPINION AND, UM, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
YEAH, AND TO BE CLEAR, THIS WILL BE A COUNCIL DECISION, BUT I, I THINK WHAT IS BEING ASKED IF YOU WANT TO USE YOUR HOURS IS TO GET MORE RESEARCH AND DECIDE ULTIMATELY WHAT DO YOU WANT TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL TO FURTHER APPROVE.
SO, AND THAT'S AVAILABLE TO EVERY ONE OF US FOR A VARIETY OF ISSUES.
SO WITH THAT COUNSEL, THANK YOU.