Dec 08, 2025 City Council Study Session 12/08/2025

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WELCOME

[ Call to Order]

AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AND CLERK, PLEASE TAKE THE ROLE.

MAYOR HARTKE.

HERE, VICE MAYOR ELLIS.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ENCINA.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER POSTED HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER HAWKINS.

COUNCIL HERE.

HAVE A QUORUM.

GREAT.

[ Consent Agenda Items listed on the Consent Agenda may be enacted by one motion and one vote. If a discussion is required by members of the governing body, the item will be removed from the Consent Agenda for discussion and determination will be made if the item will be considered separately.]

FIRST IS ITEM NUMBER ONE BROUGHT FORTH BY VICE MAYOR CHRISTINE ELLIS,

[1. Resolution No. 5958, Authorizing Airport Improvement Grant with FAA for Airfield Electrical Upgrades Move City Council pass and adopt Resolution No. 5958 authorizing the City to enter into an agreement with the Federal Aviation Administration to accept an Airport Improvement Program grant in a total amount not to exceed $1,600,000 for the design and installation of airfield electrical system improvements at the Chandler Municipal Airport. Council Focus Area(s):]

UH, STEVEN TURNER.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UH, EXCITED TO BE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

UH, REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION TO ACCEPT GRANTS, UH, FROM THE FAA AND FROM ADOT TO FUND LED, UH, UH, REPLACEMENTS FOR OUR RUNWAY AND TAXIWAYS, UH, TAXIWAY, UH, ALPHA.

AND THEN ALSO OUR, UH, FOUR LEFT, UH, TWO, TWO RIGHT, UH, RUNWAY.

OUR NORTH RUNWAY.

UM, THE CURRENT LIGHTING IS, IS THE OLD INCANDESCENT LIGHTING AND THERE ARE NO CURRENT MANUFACTURERS TO REPLACE THIS LIGHTING.

SO WE ARE REPLACING WITH LEDS, WHICH WILL LAST APPROXIMATELY 30 PLUS YEARS.

UM, SO THE GRANTS WE'RE RECEIVING FROM THE FA IS 95% OF THE PROJECT, AND ANOTHER TWO AND A HALF PERCENT IS FROM ADOT, MEANING WE, UH, THE CITY'S, UM, ONLY GOING, ONLY NEED ONLY GOING TO BE, NEED TO, NEED TO PAY ABOUT $40,000 TOWARDS THIS PROJECT FOR THE TOTAL OF ABOUT A $1.63 MILLION PROJECT.

WITH THAT.

VERY GOOD.

THANKS, MAYOR.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

MR. TURNER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, YOU GUYS ARE DOING AN AMAZING JOB OVER AT THE AIRPORT, AND I WANTED THE PEOPLE OF CHANDLER TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING OVER THERE, RECEIVING THIS GRANT, HOW IT WAS GOING TO PUT OUR AIRPORT, NOT ONLY IN THE, UH, LIGHT FOR THINGS TO COME, BUT CAN YOU EXPLAIN AT THIS TIME, I KNOW THAT WE ARE FLYING LOTS OF AIRPLANES RIGHT NOW.

WE ARE ONE OF THE BUSIEST AIRPORT.

UH, CAN YOU EXPLAIN ON THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHY WE NEED THIS GRANT AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO FOR US, FOR ECONOMICALLY SPEAKING AND ALSO HELPING US MOVING PEOPLE BACK AND FORTH? YEAH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH.

VICE MAYOR ELLIS, UH, YES.

OUR, OUR, WE DO HAVE A VERY BUSY AIRPORT AND WE DO MOVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF CHANDLER THROUGH OUR, OUR AIRPORT.

AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EFFORT TO MAINTAIN THE SAFETY LEVEL, UH, FOR OUR AIRPORT.

WE HAVE A VERY SAFE AIRPORT, UH, AND THIS IS A, A CONTINUED WAY TO, UM, INVEST MONEY WISELY INTO THE AIRPORT THROUGH THESE GRANTS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME GREAT LETTING AT OUR AIRPORT FOR, FOR THE PILOTS FLYING IN AND OUT OF, UM, CHANDLER AND BEING, AND CONTINUE TO BE AN ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR THE CITY OF CHANDLER.

AND THIS GRANT, DID WE OPT, OBTAIN THAT THROUGH OUR GRANT DEPARTMENT OR IS THAT SOMETHING THE AIRPORT ITSELF, UH, LOOKED OUT FOR AND, AND WENT AND GET? YES.

VICE MAYOR ELLIS, THIS IS AN ONGOING CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE WITH THE FAA AND WITH ADOT EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

AND WE HAVE CERTAIN ENTITLEMENT FUNDS THAT WE, UM, ARE AUTHORIZED TO USE AND IT'S, IT'S ABOUT OUR CONTINUED RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FA AND WITH ADOT AND WE LIKE TO THANK THEM AS PARTNERS, UH, WITH OUR AIRPORT AS WE CONTINUE TO MAIN MAINTAIN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE AIRPORT.

WELL, APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. TURNER FOR ALL THE GOOD WORK THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING THERE.

THANK YOU.

JUST MOST OF THE WORK GOES TO RYAN REEVES, OUR AIRPORT.

YES.

HE'S LUCKY YOU TODAY RECOVERING FROM SURGERY.

I'M JUST A STAND IN AND, UH, BUT RYAN JUST DEFINITELY LOVES THE AIRPORT AND HIS PASSION IS, IS VERY EVIDENT.

WE WISH HIM THE BEST.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS RELATED TO THIS? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. TURNER.

SECOND ITEM,

[9. Resolution No. 5964, Introduction and Tentative Adoption of Ordinance No. 5144, Area Plan Amendment, Rezoning, Preliminary Development Plan, and Preliminary Plat, PLH25-0016 / PLH25-0017 / PLT25-0006 Havenwood Manor, Located South of the Southwest Corner of Ocotillo Road and Basha Road Area Plan Amendment Move City Council pass and adopt Resolution No. 5964 Ocotillo Master Plan Amendment from Existing Basha's Facility to Single-Family uses, approving PLH25-0017 Havenwood Manor as recommended by Planning and Zoning Commission. Rezoning Move City Council introduce and tentatively adopt Ordinance No. 5144 approving PLH25-0016 Havenwood Manor, Rezoning from AG-1 to PAD for single-family residential, subject to the conditions as recommended by Planning and Zoning Commission. Preliminary Development Plan Move City Council approve Preliminary Development Plan PLH25-0016 Havenwood Manor for subdivision layout for 107 homes and housing product, subject to the conditions as recommended by Planning and Zoning Commission. Preliminary Plat Move City Council approve Preliminary Plat PLT25-0006 Havenwood Manor, subject to the condition recommended by Planning and Zoning Commission. Council Focus Area(s):]

AND COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS AND COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO CALLED IN FOR QUESTIONS.

UH, DARCY SMITH IS GOING TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.

UH, THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UM, WE DID SPEAK TO COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS EARLIER TODAY AND, UM, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD, A PRESENTATION WASN'T NECESSARY ANYMORE, BUT I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.

ALRIGHT.

COUNCIL MEMBER LANDER, WOULD YOU WANT ANYTHING MORE THAT OR JUST A QUESTION? NO, JUST REAL QUICK, COUPLE THINGS.

UM, WELL LET'S GO WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

I'M SORRY, YOU SAID QUESTIONS? UM, WELL I WAS GONNA CALL THE, UM, THE APPLICANT LAWYER UP 'CAUSE I ONLY HAD A QUESTION.

I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR HIM, SO IF YOU WANT, HOWEVER YOU WANNA DO IT 'CAUSE I WAS GONNA CALL, UM, RE OKAY.

UM, SO DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR DARCY FIRST? OKAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO.

HI DARCY.

HI.

HEY.

UM, AT THE P AND Z MEETING, I THINK THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY.

DID THEY CONDUCT A TRAFFIC STUDY? YEAH, THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, A TRAFFIC STUDY WAS NOT DONE, A TRAFFIC STATEMENT WAS DONE.

UM, I DO HAVE SOMEONE FROM OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERING TEAM TODAY IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK HER ANY MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON THAT.

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COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, THEY DID A TRAFFIC STATEMENT.

IN THIS CASE, SINCE WE HAD A PREVIOUS USE HERE, THEY BASICALLY COMPARED THE PREVIOUS USE TO THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GENERATED BY THE PROPOSED USE.

SO WE COULD SEE WHAT THAT DIFFERENCE IS.

SO, UM, AND THAT'S IN LIEU OF A TRAFFIC STUDY.

I MEAN, I THINK THE SPECIFIC REQUEST WAS FROM P AND ZA TRAFFIC STUDY.

UM, AND FROM WHAT I HEARD, I WASN'T AT PNZ, BUT FROM WHAT I HEARD THEY WERE INTERESTED IN SOME TRAFFIC.

UM, THEY WERE CONCERNED I GUESS, ABOUT SPEEDING AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO AT THE CITY.

THAT'S NOT, NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DO NECESSARILY WITH A PROJECT, BUT WE COULD DO THAT JUST AS A REGULAR CITY SERVICE.

CAN WE GET A COPY OF WHATEVER YOU'RE SIGNING OFF ON BEFORE THURSDAY NIGHT OF THE TRAFFIC? 'CAUSE I, THAT WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES THE RESIDENTS HAD AND I THINK THEY WANTED TO FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE SOME LEVEL OF, UM, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.

THE STATEMENT DOES SPEAK TO THE NUMBER OF TRIPS THAT ARE GOING TO BE, OR THAT ARE EXPECTED FROM THIS, THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY THERE AS THE WAREHOUSE DOES THAT COMPARISON.

AND WE'VE LOOKED AT IT AND IT'S ABOUT, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 180, I'M SORRY, 850 TRIPS PER DAY, WHICH IS ABOUT 7% OF THE CAPACITY OF, OF BASHER ROAD.

SO IN GENERAL IT'S PRETTY MINOR AND SOMETHING NOT THAT ROADWAY HAS THE CAPACITY TO HANDLE.

SO WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

OKAY.

THEY MAY COME UP ON THURSDAY NIGHT.

I KNOW ONE OF THE RESIDENTS CALLED ME TODAY AND THEY ASKED ABOUT IT AS WELL.

SO JUST BE PREPARED TO WHATEVER DATA YOU NEED TO PRESENT.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

IT'S A HEADS UP.

UM, THE, UH, TOWER FOR THE TOWER WAS BEING USED FOR FIRE TRAINING AND I BELIEVE THE FIRE CHIEF SAID IT'S NO LONGER NECESSARY OR SOMETHING.

YEAH, THROUGH THE MERIT COUNCIL OF ORLANDO, IT IS NO LONGER BEING USED, UM, FOR ANY FIRE TRAINING PURPOSES.

UM, IT IS NOT SAFE TO USE, NOT FOR THIS USE.

UH, IT'S NOT SAFE TO USE ANYMORE.

OKAY.

AND I THINK, UH, HE ALREADY HAS A REPLACEMENT FOR THAT OR SOMETHING INDICATED? UH, I BELIEVE SO.

I'M, I'M NOT SURE.

YEAH.

OH, HE'S NODDING HIS HEAD.

OKAY.

SO WE DON'T NEED THAT ANYMORE.

ALRIGHT.

AND FINALLY, UM, MAYBE YOU CAN'T ANSWER THIS QUESTION.

I'LL WAIT FOR THE APPLICANT TO COME UP.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANKS.

YOU DON'T GO ANYWHERE.

WE'RE NOT DONE YET.

SO, UH, YOU HAD MENTIONED THE TRAFFIC STUDY AS A COMPARISON.

HOW DO THESE COMPARE, UM, FROM WHAT WAS THERE AND WHAT IS PROJECTED TO BEING THERE? CAN I BRING THIS UP? MM-HMM .

OKAY.

HOPEFULLY YOU CAN.

SORRY.

HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, THE ORIGINAL USE HAD ABOUT 250 TRIPS.

THE PROPOSED LAND USE, WHICH I BELIEVE IS 700, I'M SORRY, 107 HOMES, HAS JUST UNDER 1100 TRIP DAILY TRIPS FOR DIFFERENCE OF ABOUT 830 TRIPS A DAY.

AND LIKE I SAID, THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 7% OF THE CAPACITY OF, OF BASHER ROAD.

AND RIGHT NOW, THE LAST TIME WE DID COUNTS ON BASHER ROAD WAS 2024 AND THE CAP OR THE ACTUAL CAPACITY THAT WAS BEING UTILIZED WAS UNDER 30%.

SO THERE'S PLENTY OF CAPACITY TO BE UTILIZED IN THAT AREA.

OKAY.

AND RELATED TO THIS, I KNOW, UM, AT LEAST ONE RESIDENT HAD ASKED ABOUT THE LIGHT, IS THERE ANY, UM, UH, CHANGES AVAILABLE WITH THIS INCREASED TRAFFIC, UM, FOR LEFT HAND TURNS AT THE GOING ON TO EO OR ARE LEFT END SOUTH ON BASH? IS THERE ANY PLAN OR DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, UH, ANY TWEAKS TO THAT LIGHT? MAYOR, WE WILL CERTAINLY KEEP OUR EYE ON THAT AS NEW DEVELOPMENTS COME IN OR AS REDEVELOPMENTS OCCUR.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE LOOK AT AND LOOK AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY TRAFFIC RETIMING THAT WE NEED TO DO IN THAT AREA, WHETHER THAT'S AT OR AS IT COMES OUT ON THE SOUTH.

AND WE WILL KEEP OUR EYES ON THAT.

OKAY.

AND UM, I JUST HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION.

IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY, UM, ON THESE SNEER COMPLEX SITE, AT LEAST DURING HEAVY USE ON SATURDAYS FOR, UM, FOR THIS PARTICULAR SPORTS FIELD TO CONNECT AND EXIT OFF OF THE OTHER, UM, IS THERE ACCESS, UH, CROSSWAYS SOUTH OF OCOTILLO FOR ON SPORTS DAYS FOR, UM, PEOPLE TO ENTER EXIT TO THE, THE EAST SIDE OF SENNIGER SOCCER FIELDS? IS, IS THAT ROAD O OFTEN OPEN OR IS IT JUST FOR, UM, INTERNAL USE? I HAVE TO CHECK WITH PARKS ON THAT ONE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT THAT GETS OPENED DOWN THERE OR NOT ON THE PARK SIDE.

OKAY, I'D APPRECIATE THAT.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW.

YEAH, WHAT'S THAT? OH, MR. SEPTON, GOOD

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SNEER HAS TWO PARKING LOTS, ONE FROM BASIA AND THE OTHER FROM ALMA SCHOOL AND THERE THEY DO NOT CONNECT.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITIES FOR CONNECTIONS IF, UH, IF YOU WARRANTED OR IS THAT JUST NOT, NOT A, ANY FUTURE PROJECTION AT THIS POINT? IT WOULD REQUIRE A STUDY AND, AND PERHAPS SOME REDEVELOPMENT OF THE PARK ITSELF AND, UH, WE HAVEN'T BEGUN TO EVEN THINK ALONG THOSE LINES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YOU BET.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR DARCY OR OTHERS QUESTION REGARD IN THE LETTER, BUT I'LL ASK THE OFFICER.

ALRIGHT, WHY DON'T WE CALL UP THE APPLICANT? MR. RAY, STARTING WITH YOU, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

UM, PROBABLY GOT MORE QUESTIONS THAN WHAT I WANT, BUT I, MY MAIN QUESTION TO YOU IS, UM, UM, SINCE THE SITE, SINCE YOU GUYS HAVE STARTED DEVELOPERS, UM, IF THE SITE BRINGS ANY, UM, TRAFFIC CONCERNS WITH THIS PROPOSAL.

SO IS THERE, HAS IT BEEN THE MAIN ISSUE, TRAFFIC CONCERNS HAVE BEEN THE MAIN ISSUE WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL? AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION, BUT WOULD BE, UH, IF SO, WHAT, UM, HAVE YOU DONE TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO MITIGATE THOSE, UH, CONCERNS? IS MY TWO QUESTIONS.

I HAVE, UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, BRENNAN RAY, 2325 EAST CAMO BACK ROAD HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, LET ME APOLOGIZE FOR MY ATTIRE.

UH, NORMALLY I APPEAR FOR YOU, I'M NOT DRESSED WITH A SHIRT UNTUCKED AND WEARING JORDANS , ALTHOUGH THOSE ARE CERTAINLY APPROPRIATE, UH, SHOE WEAR, BUT I APOLOGIZE FIRST AND FOREMOST FOR THAT DRESS.

UM, IT'S NOT, I HAD NO ANTICIPATION.

I REMEMBER MIKE CURLEY YEARS AGO MADE THE SIMILAR APOLOGY, UM, NOT ANTICIPATING THAT HE WAS GONNA GET CALLED UP.

UM, WITH RESPECT TO TRAFFIC, AS YOU HEARD, UM, TALKING WITH, UM, WHAT DANA ALVEDA MENTIONED, WE, UM, THE, THE SITE AS YOU LOOK AT IT HISTORICALLY WAS USED AS THE B'S CORPORATE OFFICE.

THAT CORPORATE OFFICE INCLUDED UPWARDS OF 200 EMPLOYEES AT A GIVEN TIME.

THOSE EMPLOYEES WERE SPLIT BETWEEN, UH, THE OFFICE COMPONENT OF THAT, UH, CORPORATE CAMPUS, UH, AND THEN THE WAREHOUSING SIDE BECAUSE THIS WAS THEIR DISTRIBUTION FACILITY BEFORE THEY BUILT THE ONE OUT IN WEST CHANDLER.

AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT AND COMPARE THE USES, WE HAVE DONE THAT, WE HAVE COMPLIED WITH THE REQUIREMENTS AS FAR AS WHAT HAS BEEN ASKED OF US FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT TO STUDY AND TO LOOK AT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES THIS SITE UNIQUE IS THAT THERE IS A HISTORIC OVERLAY THAT RUNS DOWN THE WEST SIDE, UH, OF BACHER ROAD.

THAT HISTORIC OVERLAY WAS SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE THE COUNCIL APPROVED, UH, I'M NOT SURE HOW LONG AGO, BUT IT KEEPS IN PLACE THE PALM TREES AND THE UM, UH, OPEN CANAL, IF YOU WILL, RECOGNIZING THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT BECAUSE OF THAT HISTORIC OVERLAY, UH, IT IMPACTS WHAT I CAN AND CAN'T DO WITH RESPECT TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE.

UH, AND SO IN WORKING CLOSELY WITH STAFF, UM, WE'VE PROVIDED THEM THE NECESSARY INFO AS DANA INDICATED AND YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN HERE, COMPARING THE PRIOR USE TO THIS ONE AND DANA ACCURATELY SUMMARIZED, UH, WHAT WAS, UH, WHAT, UH, THEIR POSITION WAS IN LOOKING AT IT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE AS WE GO THROUGH THIS TRAFFIC STATEMENT PROCESS, IF STAFF FEELS THAT THERE ARE ADDITIONAL CONCERNS, UH, RELATIVE TO THE SITE TRAFFIC THAT WE WILL BE GENERATING, THEN WE ARE ASKED TO MITIGATE THOSE CONCERNS.

AS WE'VE TALKED WITH STAFF, THERE HASN'T, UM, THE LEVEL OF TRAFFIC THAT THIS SITE WILL GENERATE DOESN'T WARRANT ANY ADDITIONAL MITIGATION RELATIVE TO THE SITE.

AND PARTICULARLY WHAT THAT MEANS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MITIGATION WOULD BE DECELERATION LANES INTO THE SITE.

UH, AND SO AGAIN, I'VE GOT THE HISTORIC OVERLAY, I'VE GOT THE HISTORIC USE.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE USES OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, UM, AND LOOK AT IT FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT, UM, AS DANA INDICATED, THERE IS MORE THAN SUFFICIENT CAPACITY WITHIN BAHER ROAD TO ACCOMMODATE THIS SITE TRAFFIC.

MAYOR CONTINUE.

YEAH, AND, AND JUST IN TERMS OF PERSPECTIVE, BASED ON WHAT THE CURRENT LAND USE WAS AND BASED ON RESIDENTIAL, UH, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT JUST A SLIGHT INCREASE 'CAUSE IT'S FAMILY? OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE WE'RE COMPARING TRAFFIC NUMBERS TO TRAFFIC NUMBERS WITHOUT A LARGE INCREASE? SO THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, UM, LEMME SEE IF I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

YEAH.

UM, WHEN COMPARING IT, THERE ARE THREE, UM, CATEGORIES, IF YOU WILL, THAT TRAFFIC IS LOOKED AT.

UM, THE FIRST CATEGORY IS, IS DAILY, UM, TRIPS, UH,

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IT DOES NOT REPRESENT A VEHICLE ITSELF.

AND SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE TRAFFIC STATEMENT IS THAT WE COMPARE THE OVERALL TRIPS WITHIN A 24 HOUR PERIOD AND THEN WE BREAK IT DOWN EVEN FURTHER AND LOOK AT IT AT THE AM AND PM PEAK HOURS.

AND IT'S REALLY IN THE AM AND PM PEAK HOURS THAT THERE REALLY IS A HEAVY AMOUNT OF SCRUTINY BECAUSE AS YOU WOULD EXPECT DURING THE AM HOURS, WHICH ARE TYPICALLY SEVEN TO 9:00 AM WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO AND FROM SCHOOL, GOING TO AND FROM WORK, THAT'S WHEN THE CAPACITY OR THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC ON A ROAD IS GOING TO INCREASE.

SAME WITH PM GENERALLY FOUR TO 6:00 PM THREE TO FIVE, KIND OF THAT WINDOW IN THERE.

WHEN WE LOOK AT IT AT PM AND I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, I TRY TO PULL IT UP QUICKLY.

UM, BUT MY RECOLLECTION IS, UM, AND YOU CAN, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS CORRECT, BUT I THINK AS YOU LOOK AT IT, THERE IS NOT MORE, UM, THIS DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT GENERATE MORE TRAFFIC IN THE AM IN PEAK HOURS AND WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY, UM, PROPOSED.

UM, AND WE'RE, I NEED TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION WITH, WITH DANA ABOUT IT.

UM, BUT I DO KNOW THAT AT LEAST AS WE'VE LOOKED AT IT, WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE AMOUNT IN THE CRITICAL HOURS OF THE DAY.

MAYOR, LAST QUESTION.

UM, HAVE YOU, HAVE YOUR TEAM WORKED WITH THE RESIDENTS THAT'S IN THAT AREA TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THIS WAS GOING? WHAT HAS, WHAT HAS BEEN YOUR COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA AS IT PERTAINS TO THIS PARTICULAR, UH, SITE? YEAH, THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, I'VE HAD A DISCUSSION, UH, A COUPLE OF DISCUSSIONS WITH ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE IN THERE IN ADDITION TO HAVING TWO NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS.

OKAY.

AND THEN WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME OF THAT, THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS? WAS THERE OPPOSED? WAS THERE AGAINST, WHAT WAS THE, THE, UM, THE OVERALL FEEL OF THAT? SO THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, THE TWO CONCERNS THAT CAME UP, OR TRAFFIC AS WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING TONIGHT, THE OTHER ONE, UH, WAS A CONCERN ABOUT THE DENSITY, UH, OF THE, OF KHO IAN'S PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

OKAY.

UM, JUST LAST QUESTION ABOUT THE DENSITY.

WHAT, WHAT WAS YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT, TO THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT WAS THEIR REACTION TO YOUR RESPONSE TO THE DENSITY? YEAH, SO THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, AS WE'VE LOOKED AT DENSITY AND HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND UNDERSTANDING THE DENSITY THAT EXISTS IN THE AREA, WE KIND OF FALL RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.

UM, IS THIS THE PRESENTATION FROM COUNCIL OR FROM COMMISSION? THE PRACTICAL? YES.

SHE KNOWS HER PRESENTATION BETTER THAN I, SO IN LOOKING AT THE DENSITY, THE PROPOSED DENSITY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, WE ARE, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THERE, 107 LOTS WITH THE DENSITY OF 5.7 THAT FALLS KIND OF WITHIN THE MIDDLE OF WHAT EXISTS IN THE AREA TODAY.

NORTH OF THE SITE, YOU HAVE THE ECHELON TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT WITH THE DENSITY OF APPROXIMATELY 8.7 SOUTHEAST OF THE SITE.

YOU HAVE PARK, I'M GONNA FORGET THE SECOND NAME OF THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED AND THEY'RE 5.3.

UM, AND THOSE ARE TWO STORY HOMES AS WELL.

UH, THERE ARE SOME ONE STORY IN THERE, BUT IN TERMS OF DENSITY, AND IF YOU GO OUT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, YOU'RE GONNA SEE HIGHER DENSITY THAN WHAT IS ON THE SCREEN TODAY.

BUT IN TERMS OF DENSITY, WE FALL ROUGHLY IN THE, IN THE MIDDLE OF WHAT EXISTS IN THE AREA.

THANKS, MAYOR.

ALRIGHT.

COUNCILMAN ORLANDO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME OF THIS DEVELOPMENT? UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, UH, IF APPROVED, UH, KHO MANIAN WILL MOVE FORWARD EXPEDITIOUSLY.

UM, THEY WANT TO GET IT, UH, UNDERWAY.

THEY'RE OUT DOING, UH, SOME TESTING.

OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF DEMOLITION THAT WILL NEED TO OCCUR ON THE SITE AND REMEDIATION POTENTIALLY.

AND SO AS SOON AS THEY, UH, ARE ABLE TO DO THAT, THEY WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH, WITH BUILDING THESE HOMES.

WHAT TYPE, WHAT TYPE OF REMEDIATION HAVE DO THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE WITH IT BEING CORPORATE OFFICES FOR A VERY LONG TIME, UM, AND WITH THE AMOUNT OF REPAIRS AND EVERYTHING, UM, SOMEONE'S GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SOIL CLOSELY, UH, AND DO ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT PROBLEMS. WE DON'T INITIALLY BELIEVE THERE ARE.

UM, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S JUST PART OF THE PROCESS OF A NORMAL, UM, PROCESS.

WHEN YOU'RE REDEVELOPING A SITE, YOU LOOK AT EVERYTHING AND, AND THAT ENVIRONMENTAL KIND OF STUFF IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD COME UP, ESPECIALLY GIVEN WHAT'S TRANSPIRED ON THE SITE FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

OKAY.

WILL THIS BE AN HOA THROUGH THE MAYOR? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, THIS IS PLANNED TO BE A FOR SALE COMMUNITY, UM, THAT WE'LL HAVE AN HOA, UM, COMMON AREA TRACKS, COMMON AREA OPEN SPACE,

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OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

MAYOR.

THANKS MAYOR.

TURN YOUR FOOT ON.

THERE YOU GO.

THANK YOU.

MR. RAY, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE HISTORICAL VALUE OF THE LAND AND WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE, AND WE'VE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM, UM, JB INVESTMENT, WHICH IS FROM DAVID B HIMSELF.

AND THE PART THAT I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IS THAT MR. BCIA FEELS THAT HIS FAMILY HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED NUMEROUS WAYS INTO THIS COMMUNITY AND THAT HAVING THE TOWER RIGHT NOW OR PRESERVING THE TOWER IS NOT MERITED AT THIS TIME.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DISCUSSION WITH HIM? ARE YOU WELL AWARE THAT HE HAS SENT US THIS EMAIL AND, UH, THIS LETTER? YEAH, THROUGH THE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR ELLIS, THAT ACTUALLY WAS A EMAIL THAT I HAD FORWARDED TO YOU ALL.

SO I'M VERY MUCH AWARE OF THE LETTER AND OF ITS CONTENTS.

I KNOW THAT WITH RESPECT TO THE BASIA FAMILY, UM, THERE ARE MANY UNTOLD STORIES OF EDDIE NOT WANTING THE LIMELIGHT.

AND BASED ON THAT, AND BASED ON KIND OF THE CONTENTS OF THAT LETTER, WE ARE VERY AWARE OF IT.

NOTWITHSTANDING THAT, UM, IN THE PRESENTATION ON THURSDAY, IF NECESSARY, YOU WILL SEE THAT WHAT WE ARE PROVIDING IS AN INTERPRETIVE SIGN, UM, THAT'S IN HERE.

YEAH.

ANY RATE, I CAN GET YOU THAT INFORMATION.

I KNOW WE'RE SHORT ON TIME, BUT IN TERMS OF THIS SIGN, UM, THERE IS, UH, WE PLAN ON HAVING IT, IT'S NOT THERE.

YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS PICTURE IF IT'S ON YOUR SCREEN KIND OF A THING.

IF YOU LOOK, I CAN GIVE MORE DETAILS, BUT WE DO PLAN ON RECOGNIZING THE FACT THAT IT WAS THE HOME OF THE BASHES CORPORATE.

UH, AND WITH THAT INTERPRETIVE SIGN, UH, THERE WILL BE A STEEL PLAQUE.

YOU CAN KIND OF SEE A STEEL AND A SILVER THING SQUARE IN THE MIDDLE.

THAT WILL BE A STEEL PLAQUE THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE SITE AND THE HISTORY OF IT.

IN ADDITION, THROUGH WORKING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY WANTED US TO INCLUDE A SILHOUETTE OF THE WATER TOWER ON THIS VERY SAME ELEMENT, AND THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL, UM, PDP STIPULATION.

AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE IT, UH, IN A WAY THAT'S APPROPRIATE.

THIS WILL BE LOCATED, UM, PROXIMATE TO THE SIDEWALK SO THAT, UM, PEOPLE AS THEY WALK BY WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE AND, AND SEE THIS SIGN, UH, AND UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY.

APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS? AM I RIGHT? COUNCIL MEMBER? CLOSE.

HI, BRENNAN.

UM, I THINK WE DISCUSSED THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT SOME OF THOSE HOMES ON THE MOST SOUTHERN END OF THE PROPERTY, BACK RIGHT UP TO A VERY BUSY BALLPARK WITH LIGHTING AND OUR DOG, ONE OF OUR OLDER DOG PARKS.

CAN YOU JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU'LL BE DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE AWARE BEFORE THEY BUY THEIR HOME THERE? YEAH.

THROUGH THE MAYOR, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER POSTON, UM, THERE IS, UH, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL STIPULATION THAT WAS ADDED TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

UH, THAT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT WE WERE ABSOLUTELY OKAY WITH THAT WOULD REQUIRE US TO PROVIDE A SEPARATE DISCLOSURE, UM, TO THE RESIDENTS NOTIFYING OF THE CITY'S FACILITIES OF THE DOG PARK BEING NEXT TO THEM.

UM, IT WILL GO IN THE CCNRS.

UH, AND SO THERE ARE MULTIPLE WAYS.

IT'S KIND OF THE, UM, CITY'S BOILERPLATE STIPULATION, UH, WHEN WE'RE NOTIFYING OF THINGS ADJACENT THAT MIGHT CAUSE SOME PEOPLE TO RAISE AN EYEBROW OR TWO.

UM, THE OTHER THING THAT, AND IT'S TOUGH TO SEE ON THE SCALE OF THE SITE PLAN, BUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE WHERE LOT 37 IS, IF YOU CAN SEE ON IT, THAT IS NORTH OF THE, THE DOG PARK, AS WE WORK WITH STAFF, UM, UNDERSTOOD, WE WANNA PUSH 'EM AS FAR AWAY FROM THE DOG PARK AS WE CAN, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY IMMEDIATELY BACKING UP TO IT, WHICH WE'VE DONE, UH, IN THIS, IN THIS INSTANCE.

THANK YOU.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER HAWKINS? YEAH, ACTUALLY MINE WAS QUITE IN LINE WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER POSTON.

I JUST WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE LIGHTING FROM SENATOR AND I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, I JUST ASSUME THAT THERE ARE THE LARGE LIGHTS THERE FOR THE BALL FIELDS.

IS THERE ANY CONCERN, UM, THAT, THAT WOULD IMPACT THOSE NEIGHBORS BEHIND? I SEE THE SETBACK HAS QUITE A BIT, BUT I GUESS IS THERE ANYTHING THERE, UM, TO BE AWARE OF OR TO BE CONCERNED OF? YEAH, THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER HAWKINS? NOT, NOT THAT I'M, I'M AWARE OF, AGAIN, THERE IS THAT STIPULATION.

UH, IT IS STIPULATION NUMBER SEVEN IN THE REZONE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED TO ADD SOME OTHER WORDS IN IT ABOUT LIGHTING OR ANYTHING, I KNOW THAT THAT STIPULATION SEVEN SPECIFICALLY SAYS LOCATED ADJACENT, NEARBY THE EXISTING SCHNEER SPORTS COMPLEX AND DOG PARK AND, YOU KNOW, MAY CAUSE ADVERSE NOISE, ODORS AND OTHER EXTERNALITIES.

AND THEN THERE'S ALL THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO IN THAT STIPULATION SEVEN TO NOTIFY PEOPLE IF WE NEED TO ADD LIGHTS SPECIFICALLY IN THAT, MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT.

UM, I THINK THAT KIND OF GOES

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OKAY.

THANKS.

APPRECIATE THAT, MAYOR.

YES.

UM, I WOULD LIKE THAT, THAT WORD LIGHTING TO BE ADDED INTO THAT.

AND THEN ALSO, UM, AND ALSO I KIND OF PROBABLY WANT TO DO AN, UM, JUST ADDING, BECAUSE THAT COULD BE CLOSE TO, UM, UM, TO WHERE NEIGHBORS ARE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NOISE DIFFERENCE OR THE NOISE CAP IS GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE, BUT THAT COULD CREATE LIKE, SOME TYPE OF NUISANCE.

SO I'M JUST SITTING HERE THINKING THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE THE WORD NUISANCE BECAUSE THAT CAN BE A VERY WILD WORD, UH, A BIGGER WORD.

UM, BUT THE WORD NUISANCE AND THE LIGHT COULD, SHOULD BE TWO WORDS ADDED TO THE CONTRACT.

BECAUSE WHEN THEY BUY THIS PROPERTY, IF THEY DECIDE IF THE HOMEOWNERS DECIDE TO BUY IT, WHAT, WHAT MY FEAR IS WITH IT BEING RIGHT NEXT TO KER, WHICH IS A REGULARLY USED PARK IN CHANDLER, MY FEAR IS THAT THE NOISE COMPLAINTS THAT THEY COULD GET, IT SEEMED LIKE HE WAS ADDRESSING IT PRETTY GOOD.

BUT I THINK JUST ADDING THE WORD, ADDING THE LIGHT, BECAUSE THAT IS A NUISANCE THAT MAY FLOOD INTO THEIR AREA, OR MAYBE IF THEY BUILD IT IN A WAY THAT CAN REDUCE THAT AMOUNT, AND THEN ALSO ADDING THE WORD NUISANCE.

I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THAT IT COULD, THE LEVEL OF NOISE WHEN WE'RE HAVING TOURNAMENTS OR BIGGER PLAYING, UH, COULD INCREASE TO THE WORD, TO THE WORD NUISANCE.

AND IF IT DOES, I REALLY DON'T WANT THOSE NEIGHBORS, UH, CALLING, CALLING ME AND SAYING, HEY, LOOK WHAT I SIGNED UP FOR.

I JUST KIND OF WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT IT'S, IT'S THERE.

SO IF YOU CAN ADD THAT, UM, TO YOUR CONTRACT, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

AT LEAST FOR ITEMS, AT LEAST FOR THE ONES THAT'S CLOSE, CLOSE BY SO THAT THEY'LL KNOW IT'S THERE.

YEAH, THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, WE'LL WORK WITH PLANNING AND WE'LL WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

NU SIGN NEW NUISANCE IS, IS A LEGAL TERM THAT, WE'LL, WE'LL WORK WITH THE PARTY, WE'LL WORK WITH EVERYBODY ON AND, AND THEN THE LIGHTS AS, AS THE LIGHTS AS WELL.

YEP.

OKAY.

YEAH, THANKS.

AND IF YOU COULD LET US KNOW, OBVIOUSLY BEFORE THURSDAY, IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL STEPS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE READ INTO THE RECORD.

UH, SO REACH OUT TO US SOONER THAN LATER ON THAT.

YES, WE WILL DO THAT.

MAYOR, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MR. RAY.

MR. RAY, THANK YOU.

UH, NEXT

[10. Entertainment Use Permit, PLH25-0027 Morning Glory Brunchery, 70 E Riggs Road, Generally Located at the Northeast Corner of Arizona Avenue and Riggs Road Move City Council approve Entertainment Use Permit, PLH25-0027 Morning Glory Brunchery, to allow for outdoor speakers within an outdoor patio, subject to the conditions recommended by Planning and Zoning Commission. Council Focus Area(s):]

[11. Entertainment Use Permit, PLH25-0030 Maple House, 198 W Boston Street, Generally Located 1/4 South of the Southwest Corner of Arizona Avenue and Chandler Boulevard Move City Council approve Entertainment Use Permit, PLH25-0030 Maple House, time extension to continue to allow live outdoor entertainment and speakers indoors and outdoors, subject to the conditions recommended by Planning and Zoning Commission. Council Focus Area(s):]

[12. Entertainment Use Permit, PLH25-0021 J Alexander's Restaurant, 7111 W Ray Road, Generally Located at the Southwest Corner of Ray Road and 56th Street Move City Council approve Entertainment Use Permit, PLH25-0021 J Alexander's Restaurant, to allow for outdoor speakers for ambient background music within an outdoor patio area, subject to the conditions recommended by Planning and Zoning Commission. Council Focus Area(s):]

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

GOOD EVENING THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THREE ENTERTAINMENT USE PERMITS ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING.

WHEN REVIEWING THESE, THE GOAL OF PLANNING STAFF IS TO ANTICIPATE THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS BEFORE THE USE BEGINS AND TO ESTABLISH REASONABLE CO CONDITIONS THAT THAT SUPPORT BOTH LIVABILITY AND LOCAL BUSINESSES.

WE CONSIDER FACTORS SUCH AS AMPLIFIED MUSIC VERSUS ACOUSTIC MUSIC, HOURS OF OPERATION, AND WHERE ENTERTAINMENT IS LOCATED ON SITE.

WHEN A PERMIT IS ISSUED, AN INITIAL TIME CONDITION IS STIPULATED, SO STAFF CAN REEVALUATE IF THE ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITY IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

AS PART OF THIS REVIEW, WE CONSULT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR ANY REPORTED NOISE ISSUES.

IF THE BUSINESS HAS BEEN A GOOD NEIGHBOR, STAFF MAY CONSIDER REMOVING THE RENEWAL REQUIREMENT.

IN THE EVENT THAT WE RECEIVE NOISE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE ESTABLISHMENT PRIOR TO THE EXPIRATION OF THEIR PERMIT, STAFF WILL THEN CONTACT THE BUSINESS TO REMIND THEM OF THE PERMIT CONDITIONS AND TRY TO RESOLVE THE MATTER DIRECTLY.

IF MULTIPLE DISTURBANCES OCCUR ANOTHER SHORT TIMEFRAME, TYPICALLY A YEAR MAY BE ADDED WITH ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS.

IF CONCERNS CONTINUE AND IT'S DETERMINED THAT THE ESTABLISHMENT IS NOT A GOOD NEIGHBOR, THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR HAS THE AUTHOR, THE AUTHORITY TO REVOKE THE ENTERTAINMENT USE PERMIT.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

YEAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH, KAYLA.

I APPRECIATE YOU, UM, BRINGING THIS, UH, BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND DOING A GOOD JOB WITH THE PRESENTATION.

A PART OF, UH, THERE'S TWO FOLD TO THIS.

NUMBER ONE, I WANTED TO, UM, SEND, UM, GIVE KUDOS TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UM, PARTICULARLY ON THIS ISSUE.

FIRST BECAUSE, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOUND A WAY TO STREAMLINE, UH, STREAMLINE TO HELP BUSINESSES KIND OF MOVE FORWARD AND, AND MAKING IT AN ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION VERSUS IT ALWAYS HAPPENED TO COME TO COUNCIL DIRECTLY TO, UM, TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WHERE WE'LL HAVE

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AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY I WANTED TO BRING THIS FORWARD BECAUSE, UM, ADMINISTRATIVELY STAFF WILL WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER PERMIT THEY ARE APPLYING FOR, THEY'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THE MITIGATION IS HAPPENING WITH THE NEIGHBORS, MAKING SURE THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING UP AND MAKING SURE THAT THESE ITEMS ARE BEING, UM, PROPERLY, UM, TAKEN CARE OF.

SO I WANTED TO, NUMBER ONE, JUST SHOW HOW MAYOR AND COUNCIL IS, IS CUTTING RED TAPE AND MAKING SURE BUSINESSES ARE ABLE TO KEEP GOING BY HAVING AMAZING STAFF TO, TO WORK THE ISSUE.

UM, MY MY QUESTION IS THIS, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN STREAMLINE THE PROCESS FOR BUSINESSES THAT'S NOT NEAR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS? IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN DO THAT IN REGARDS TO ENTERTAINMENT AND, AND NO MM-HMM .

IN REGARDS TO ENTERTAINMENT FOR THE CODE? UM, THE TRIGGERS FOR THESE ENTERTAINMENT USE PERMITS ARE ACTUALLY DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS.

SO IF THERE IS, UM, INDOOR ENTERTAINMENT AND OR SPEAKERS IN THE OUTDOOR, THEN THERE'S A 600 FOOT REQUIREMENT TO, UM, ANY RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTY.

IN THE CASE THAT THIS ENTERTAINMENT IS LIVE AND IT'S OUTDOOR, THEN THE THRESHOLD INCREASES TO, UM, 1,340 FEET IN THAT CASE.

BUT OUTSIDE OF DISTANCE, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE IS, UM, ANY CODE THAT WE HAVE AS A TOOL OKAY.

TO DELEGATE THAT.

YEAH.

'CAUSE I, I KIND OF WANT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TOO, WITH THE BUSINESSES THAT THIS IS AT COUNCIL LEVEL, 'CAUSE IT'S ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA TO, TO TALK ABOUT, TO DISCUSS AND TO BE BRING, UH, TO BRING FORTH.

AND IT WAS DEBRIEFED.

MY QUESTION IS TRYING TO, HOW DO WE TAKE THIS ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS, UM, AND STREAMLINE IT MORE SO THAT WAY IT CAN BE TAKEN CARE OF WITH STAFF VERSUS ALWAYS COMING HERE UNLESS COUNCIL, MAYOR AND COUNCIL WANTS THAT.

BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW CAN WE STREAMLINE IT A LITTLE BIT FASTER SO BUSINESSES DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE TO WAIT 'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO WAIT TILL THIS FULLY EVOLVES AND THEN IT COMES TO US.

I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HAVE WE, ARE THERE ANY IDEALS OF HOW WE CAN MAKE THIS PROCESS A LITTLE BIT FASTER SO THAT WAY BUSINESSES ARE NOT WAITING TO ACTIVATE UP AND USE THEIR FACILITY IN THE FULL MEASURE ON WHICH IT CAN BE ME, UH, USED? IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN DO THAT? DO WE HAVE IDEALS AROUND THAT? MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER WHITE.

I THINK IT MIGHT BE BETTER TO HAVE A STUDY SESSION LOOK AT THIS.

OKAY.

RATHER THAN I DO KNOW THAT I, WE, WE CERTAINLY HAVE DONE SOME THINGS.

I I DON'T THINK THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO TOTALLY REMOVE BEFORE YOU ALL ARE HERE.

WE HAD SOME FOLKS THAT WERE QUITE, UH, ATTRACTING NEIGHBORS BY THE MUSIC THAT WAS COMING.

BUT I, I'D CERTAINLY WELCOME US TO FURTHER THIS CONVERSATION AT A POLICY LEVEL RATHER THAN A DAYS LEVEL.

BUT YOUR POINTS ARE NOTED.

OKAY.

YEAH, I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE BUSINESSES ARE ABLE TO GET WHAT THEY NEED TO GET UP AND RUNNING.

AND I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO HAVE ANY, IF WE HAVE ANY IDEALS OF HOW WE CAN GET THERE.

IF THAT'S A POLICY DECISION, THEN I, I WOULD ASK THE CITY MANAGER, UM, TO PULL TOGETHER A WORK SESSION SO WE CAN KIND OF WORK ON THAT.

CITY MANAGER, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, WE CAN DO THAT.

YEAH, LET'S PULL TOGETHER SOME THOUGHTS, THEN REACH OUT TO US AND SEE WHAT WE WANNA DO.

CITY ATTORNEY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT? NO.

MAYOR, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY WHAT, WHAT YOU DID THIS IS, WE HAVE A CODE THAT IS BEING FOLLOWED FOR THESE PERMITS RIGHT NOW.

IF YOU WANNA CHANGE THAT OR, OR ENHANCE IT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.

I THANK YOU KAYLA.

I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS GETTING THE QUESTION ANSWERED.

UM, AND, UM, AND TO THE APPLICANTS, ALL RIGHT, GOOD LUCK ON YOUR BUSINESS ENDEAVORS.

THANK YOU.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR HER ON THESE THREE ITEMS? THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT ITEM CALLED IN

[15. Purchase of Fiber Network Repair and Upgrade Services Move City Council approve the purchase of repair and upgrade services to the municipal fiber network, utilizing multiple vendors available under the State of Arizona Contract No. CTR062466, Communications Cabling Systems, and the City of Tucson Contract No. 240180, On-Call Subsurface Utility Engineering (SUE) Services, for the period of one year, beginning January 1, 2026, through December 31, 2026, in a combined amount not to exceed $2,227,072. Council Focus Area(s):]

COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, DID YOU WANT A PRESENTATION OR HAVE A QUESTION? NO, I JUST WANT TO GET A QUESTION ABOUT, ALRIGHT, DENNIS.

THANK YOU MAYOR, CAN YOU, CAN YOU TAKE US BACK A LITTLE BIT, WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AND THEN WHAT THE GO FORWARD PLAN IS? OKAY, SURE.

UH, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, UH, JUST A LITTLE REFRESHER.

I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO YOU TONIGHT ABOUT OUR, UH, FIBER, UH, OUR OUTSIDE PLANT FIBER PROGRAM, UH, AND THE FIBER NETWORK REPAIR AND UPGRADE SERVICES THAT'S ON YOUR AGENDA, UH, FOR APPROVAL.

THE CITY HAS BEEN INSTALLING,

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UM, WE'VE MIGRATED FROM COPPER TO FIBER IN THE EARLY 1990S.

WE STARTED HANGING, UH, CONNECTING UP CITY BUILDINGS AND, AND ALL SORTS OF OTHER FACILITIES, LIBRARIES, FIRE STATIONS, UH, POLICE STATIONS, OUR REAL-TIME CRIME CENTER, ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS WORK OVER THE FIRE, OVER THE FIBER NETWORK.

UM, SO REALLY THE CITY'S BEEN, UH, WELL ADVANCED IN TERMS OF, UH, SMART CITY TYPE STUFF.

WELL BEFORE THAT WAS A BUZZWORD.

UM, SO THIS, UNFORTUNATELY THERE WAS, THERE WAS NO MASTER PLAN TO THAT.

SO THERE WERE SOME GAPS IN THAT NETWORK THAT HAVE BEEN SINCE, UH, IDENTIFIED THROUGH A MASTER PLAN THAT WAS DONE, UH, IN 2020.

AND, UH, THOSE THROUGH THOSE DEFICIENCIES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED, UM, THAT'S WHERE THIS PROGRAM IS COMING FROM.

SO WE'RE ON ABOUT YEAR, UH, FOUR OF THE, OF THE PLAN, UH, WHICH WAS A 13 PLUS YEAR PLAN.

UH, THE, UH, THE PROGRAM AVERAGES ABOUT A MILLION AND A HALF TO $2 MILLION A YEAR BASED ON, UH, THE 20 $20 PROJECTIONS.

SO THAT'S GOING UP A LITTLE BIT WITH INFLATION OVER THE YEARS.

UM, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD TODAY.

SO MAYOR, JUST A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.

THANK YOU FOR, FOR THAT.

'CAUSE I KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT.

THIS IS JUST FOR CITY, CITY FUNCTION AND I LIKE HOW YOU TERMED THAT SMART CITY BEFORE IT BECAME SMART CITY.

I LIKE THAT.

UM, BUT, UM, EXCUSE ME, IS THIS ACTUALLY REPLACING A FIBER OR IS IT GOING THROUGH AND TESTING IT AND THEN DETERMINING IF THERE'S STILL THE, IT'S STILL VIABLE LATENCY AND THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY AND THEN YOU REPLACE IT AS YOU GO ALONG? IT'S, UH, ALL OF THE ABOVE.

UH, OKAY.

TO THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, WE, WE'VE DID AN ANALYSIS OF, THERE ARE SOME PLACES WHERE AS FIBER WAS BUILT OUT ON ROAD PROJECTS AND, AND, UH, CONDUIT WAS PUT IN WITH DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND PERIODICALLY FIBER WAS COMING, PLACED IN SOME OF THAT CONDUIT.

SOME PLACES WHERE THE FIBER, WHERE THERE WERE GAPS, UH, WHERE THE FIBER NEEDED TO BE CONNECTED TO CREATE, UM, DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF NETWORK, WHETHER IT'S FOR OUR TRAFFIC, THEY USE KIND OF A CLOVERLEAF SET OF RINGS.

IF IT'S FOR OUR CITY NETWORK, THEY USE A MESH NETWORK THAT WE'RE, UH, ADDING TO, TO IMPROVE, TO CREATE SO THAT IF ONE LOCATION GETS HIT BY SOMEBODY BORING IN THE STREET, ONE OF THESE NON-CITY UTILITY COMPANIES, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THAT WE DON'T LOSE HALF OF THE CITY AGAIN.

GOT IT.

WE DID IN 28.

AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT REDUNDANCY AS WELL? YES.

SO PART OF, PART OF THE 2018 INCIDENT WAS THAT, UH, ONE FIBER CABLE WAS HIT, IT TOOK DOWN THE SOUTH HALF OF THE CITY.

AND, UH, WHEN THEY, THEY ASSUMED WE HAD REDUNDANCY BUILT INTO IT, WHICH WE DID.

IT WAS ALL THE MULTIPLE FIBERS WERE ALL CONNECTED IN THAT ONE CABLE.

UM, SO THIS PROGRAM IS CREATING DIVERSE ROUTES AROUND THE CITY WHERE THE, THE REDUNDANT CONNECTIONS ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE SAME PATH.

PERFECT.

THANK, THANK YOU.

GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, DENNIS.

OUR LAST ITEM CALLED IN ITEM

[27. Purchase of Body Worn Cameras Move City Council approve the purchase of body worn cameras, from Axon Enterprise, Inc. utilizing the State of Arizona Cooperative Contract No. CTR074570 Public Safety, Law Enforcement Video Products, Services, and Solutions, in an amount not to exceed $3,518,391 for a period of five years; and authorizing the City Manager to sign the quotation from Axon Enterprise, Inc. Council Focus Area(s):]

UM, THANK YOU.

UM, THANK YOU CHIEF.

I WANTED TO, UM, IF YOU CAN GIVE A, JUST A SMALL BRIEF ON WHAT THIS, UH, ON WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.

AND THEN I JUST HAD A, A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

SURE, ABSOLUTELY.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

SO TONIGHT WE ARE PROPOSING, UH, A RENEWAL OF OUR CONTRACT WITH AXON FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S BODY-WORN CAMERAS.

UH, OUR PREVIOUS CONTRACT, UH, WAS FOR JUST OVER 2.9 MILLION FOR 369 BODY-WORN CAMERAS.

UH, THAT ALSO INCLUDED ANY SUPPORTING HARDWARE OR MOUNTS OR UNLIMITED STORAGE, UH, ALONG WITH SOME OTHER FEATURES.

THE CURRENT RENEWAL THAT YOU HAVE HERE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS ANOTHER FIVE YEAR CONTRACT FOR JUST OVER 3.5 MILLION.

UH, THAT WILL IN INCLUDE 392 BODY-WORN CAMERAS.

UH, THOSE WILL BE FOR ALL SWORN POLICE OFFICERS.

OUR POLICE AIDES, OUR RESERVES, AND THEN ALSO PROVIDES OUR DEPARTMENT WITH SPARES IN CASE, UH, ANY OF THEM BREAK OR BECOME NON-OPERATIONAL.

UH, THOSE ALSO INCLUDE SIX, UH, POV CAMERAS FOR OUR MOTOR OFFICERS, SO THEY CAN MOUNT THOSE ONTO THEIR HELMETS.

AND THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE SUPPORTING, UH, SOFTWARE THAT I, UM, SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER, SPECIFICALLY THE GPS UH, LOCATION FOR ALL OF THE, THE BODY-WORN CAMERAS.

UH, WE HAVE COMMUNITY CO REQUEST, WHICH IS A, UH, EVIDENCE, UH, LINK MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS SENT OUT TO ANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO WANT TO UPLOAD ANY TYPE OF, UH, DIGITAL EVIDENCE.

UH, WE HAVE AXON PERFORMANCE, WHICH IS A, UM, METRICS THAT WE USE TO, UH, MONITOR HOW OUR OFFICERS ARE ACTIVATING THEIR BODY-WORN CAMERAS, AND WE USE IT AS AN AUDITING SYSTEM AS WELL.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE A REDACTION ASSISTANCE, UH, WHICH ASSISTS OUR, UH, RECORDS DIVISION WITH DOING ANY REDACTIONS FOR ANY, UH, PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS.

AND THEN AUTO

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THANK, THANK YOU.

UM, MELISSA, UM, THANK YOU CHIEF, I APPRECIATE YOUR, UM, FOR THE, UM, DEBRIEFING.

I JUST HAD A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

I'LL, I'LL START WITH MY FIRST QUESTION IS, UM, WHAT ARE THE, UM, POLICIES THAT GOVERNS THE CAMERAS THAT ARE ON? WHAT, WHAT POLICIES DO WE HAVE IN PLACE TO GOVERN YEAH, THESE CAMERAS.

SO, UH, SPECIFIC TO THE ACTIVATION OF OUR BODY-WORN CAMERAS.

YES.

OKAY.

SO, UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, WE HAVE OUR GENERAL ORDERS, WHICH WE HAVE A SPECIFIC POLICY, UH, WHICH GOVERNS OUR BODY-WORN CAMERA POLICY.

UM, SPECIFIC TO THE ACTIVATION, UM, IT IS REQUIRED THAT ALL, UH, EMPLOYEES THAT ARE EQUIPPED WITH BODY-WORN CAMERAS ACTIVATE, ACTIVATE THEM UPON DISPATCH TO A CALL FOR SERVICE.

SO ANYTIME THEY'RE DISPATCHED TO A CALL FOR SERVICE, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO ACTIVATE THEIR BODY-WORN CAMERA.

THAT INCLUDES ANY SELF-INITIATED ACTIVITY.

SO THAT COULD BE ANYTHING WHERE THEY'RE CONTACTING CONSENSUALLY, CONTACTING A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, A TRAFFIC STOP.

UM, IT COULD BE ON A SEARCH WARRANT, UM, ANY TYPE OF A DETAINMENT OR AN ARREST OR TRANSPORT OF AN INDIVIDUAL.

THEY'RE, UH, MANDATED TO HAVE THEIR BODY-WORN CAMERA ON, UH, ANY, ANY OF OUR USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS, UM, IF THERE IS A VEHICLE, A VEHICLE CONTAINMENT OR A TAKE DOWN OR ON A SEARCH WARRANT.

SO THAT'S JUST TO NAME A FEW.

SO PRETTY MUCH ANY TYPE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY THAT WE ENGAGE IN, THEY'RE MANDATED TO HAVE IT ON.

OKAY.

AND, UM, I WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT THE STORAGE.

IF THE, IF THE DATA IS COSTLY, AND I, I WANT YOU TO TALK ABOUT THE, THE, THE COST OF THE DATA AND THEN, UH, ARE WE, WHAT WAYS ARE WE MITIGATING THE COST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY STORING THESE, UM, THE FOOTAGE THAT HAS TO BE STORED OVER, OVER A PERIOD OF TIME? ABSOLUTELY.

THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, THE GREAT THING ABOUT AXON AND THE, UH, CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM IS IT PROVIDES UNLIMITED, UH, STORAGE FOR US.

SO WE HAVE AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF, UM, DIGITAL EVIDENCE THAT WE CAN STORE THROUGH AXON.

SO THE, UM, THE AMOUNT OF IT HAS NOT BEEN A CONCERN FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS THAT IN TERMS OF HOW THIS INFORMATION IS ACCESSED, UM, CAN THIS INFORMATION BE ACCESSED, LIKE LET'S SAY LAW ENFORCEMENT LEAVES THE, THE NETWORK OF THE CITY, WHETHER IT'S IN THEIR CAR OR HOWEVER, UM, THEY MAY TAP INTO, CAN LAW ENFORCEMENT GO HOME AND THEN TAP INTO THE SYSTEM WHEN THEY'RE AWAY FROM THE CITY? UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, UM, UH, THE, THE EVIDENCE IS UPLOADED INTO EVIDENCE.COM, WHICH IS, UH, AXONS STORAGE, UM, PLATFORM THAT THEY UTILIZE.