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UH, WELCOME TO THE DECEMBER 9TH, 2024 STUDY SESSION.
I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER CLERK, TAKE THE ROLE.
WE HAVE, UH, A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN CALLED IN.
UM, AND PERHAPS COUNCIL, SOME OF YOU MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN YOUR, UH, ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS, JUST SAY SO.
[2. Agreement No. TD6-155-3626, Amendment No. 5, for Transit Shelters and Related Services Move City Council approve Agreement No. TD6-155-3626, Amendment No. 5, with Southwest Fabrication, LLC, for transit shelters and related services, in an amount not to exceed $694,442, for the period of January 1, 2025, through December 31, 2026. Council Focus Area(s):]
TRANSIT SHELTERS AND RELATED SERVICES'.LIKE TO CALL UP RYAN PETERS, UH, STRATEGIC INITIATIVES DIRECTOR AND COUNCIL ON REVENUE STREAMS BY COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO.
YEAH, RYAN, I JUST, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR, WHAT, 20 SOMETHING YEARS? I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW LONG WE'VE BEEN DOING THE SHELTER PROGRAM AND I KNOW WE'VE GOTTEN A REVENUE STREAM FROM THAT.
HOW'S THE REVENUE STREAM GOING? MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, THE REVENUE'S BEEN CONSISTENT.
SO WE RECEIVE IT FROM LOTTERY FUNDS, WHICH IS DEDICATED TO OUR TRANSIT SERVICES AS WELL AS FROM OUR BUS STOP ADVERTISING PROGRAM.
AND WE ROUGHLY BRING IN ABOUT $900,000 A YEAR OR SO.
SO I GUESS 900,000, RIGHT? YEP.
SO THIS WELL COVERS THIS ALMOST $700,000 THAT WE KNEW FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS, IS WHAT I'M HEARING I'M GONNA SAY.
MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO.
THIS HAS BEEN A REALLY GOOD PROGRAM FOR US OVER THE YEARS AND I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU'RE EXPANDING IT.
AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND WE'RE GONNA EXPAND SOME BUS SERVICE TOO.
MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, THAT, UH, IS UNDER DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THE MAG, UM, FUNDS AND THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY, UH, THROUGH THE HALF SIDE SALES TAX THAT WAS JUST RENEWED BY THE, UM, THE VOTERS IN MARICOPA COUNTY.
SO THOSE THAT IN SOUTH CHANDLER WILL GET A NORTH, SOUTH ROUTE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT EXPANSIONS AND THERE'S, WE'RE DIVING DEEPER INTO SOUTH CHANDLER, BUT, UM, THAT'S MORE OF A NORTH SOUTH CONNECTION.
UH, THERE'S NOT SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY FOR EAST WEST CONNECTION.
[6. Introduction and Tentative Adoption of Ordinance No. 5115, Right of Way Temporary Use Management Program Move City Council introduce and tentatively adopt Ordinance No. 5115, approving the Right of Way Temporary Use Management Program. Council Focus Area(s):]
SIX.THIS HAS BEEN CALLED IN VIA VICE MAYOR HARRIS, COUNCIL MEMBERS ELLIS, ORLANDO AND POSTON PRESENTATION, UH, ON THE RIGHT OF WAY TEMPORARY USE PROGRAM.
DANA ALVIDREZ, CITY TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER.
AND I, UM, I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION TODAY FOR YOU ON THIS, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ON IT, AND I'M HERE TO, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
LET'S START WITH VICE MAYOR AND WORK OUR WAY DOWN.
YEAH, JUST, UM, THE ONLY THING THAT I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE, AND IF YOU COULD JUST KIND OF REITERATE WHAT THIS PROGRAM EXACTLY WILL DO FOR OUR BUSINESSES AND HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS TO SOLVING SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING, UM, AROUND TRAFFIC, OF COURSE.
THROUGH THE MAYOR AND, UH, VICE MAYOR, UH, HARRIS, THIS PROGRAM IS GONNA HELP US RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE TEETH IN OUR PROGRAM RIGHT NOW.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE ASK THEM TO LEAVE THE ROADWAY IF THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR PERMITS OR IF THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING INCORRECTLY.
THIS GIVES US TEETH AND GIVES US SOME, UM, SOME CONSEQUENCES OR PENALTIES IF, IF THOSE RULES AREN'T BEING FOLLOWED.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S A SAFETY ISSUE FOR OUR, OUR CITIZENS, UH, THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, OR ANYONE TRAVELING ON, ON A PUBLIC ROADWAY.
IT'S ALSO, UM, MORE THAN A SAFETY ISSUE.
OBVIOUSLY, IT'S OB AN INCONVENIENCE FOR THE TRAVELING PUBLIC IF THERE'S, UM, ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT OUT THERE THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE THERE FOR LONGER THAN IT NEEDS TO BE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE, AGAIN, BOTH THE SAFETY AND THE INCONVENIENCE AND TRYING TO MINIMIZE THAT.
OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO DO WORK TO UPDATE INFRASTRUCTURE AND TO, YOU KNOW, EXPAND AND, AND DEVELOP, BUT, UM, WE WANNA DO THAT IN AS EFFICIENT WAY AS WE CAN AND THIS WILL HELP US TO, TO DO THAT.
SO, SO, SO IN SO MANY WORDS, THIS SHOULD HELP, UH, WITH TRAFFIC FLOW BY NOT ALLOWING OTHERS WHO ARE WORKING ON A PROJECT TO SAY, HEY, I WANNA PUT THE CONES OUT FOR A WEEK IN ADVANCE, BUT THERE'S NO WORK AND PEOPLE ARE CALLING IN LIKE, HEY, THERE'S NO ONE OUT HERE, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S CONSTRUCTION, THERE'S ROAD BLOCKED OFF.
SO THERE'S PROGRAM RIGHT HERE IS BASICALLY SAYING, HEY, IF YOU PUT IT OUT THERE, THEN YOU NEED TO BE, IT NEEDS TO BE A FUNCTIONAL USE, NOT WE'RE PREPARING FOR IT.
AND IF YOU DO PUT IT OUT THERE BEFORE THEN, THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A FEE TO PAY FOR PUTTING IT OUT THERE IN ADVANCE SO THE TAXPAYERS CAN GET THE BENEFIT BACK AGAIN THROUGH THE MAYOR, UH, VICE MAYOR HARRIS.
UM, IT, IT, IT DEFINES IN HERE ACTIVE WORK AND THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE ACTIVE WORK THAT, YOU KNOW, CONCRETE DRAWING THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, WORK BEING DONE, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO JUDGE THAT WHAT THAT ACTIVE WORK IS, AND YEAH, IT'S EITHER BEING DONE OR IT'S WAITING FOR THOSE MATERIALS TO, TO SET.
AND, AND ONCE THOSE ARE SET, YOU'RE CORRECT.
THEY'LL, THEY'LL BE GETTING SOME FINES FOR THAT IF THEY LEAVE THEM UP LONGER THAN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.
OH, THANK YOU COUNCILOR MORES.
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THANK YOU, MAYOR.WELL, I'M SO GLAD THAT WE WENT AHEAD WITH THIS PROGRAM AT THIS TIME, AND I EXPERIENCED IT THIS WEEKEND RIGHT THERE ON MCQUEEN, GOING STRAIGHT TO MY HOUSE.
YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE CONCERNING THE COMMERCE PART, WHETHER IT WAS GOING TO REALLY ENGAGE OUR SMALL BUSINESSES OR BIG BUSINESSES TO HELP THEM REALIZE THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO IMPEDE THEM DOING THEIR BUSINESS, BUT WE ARE TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE FLOW INTO THEIR, THEIR BUSINESSES SO THEY CAN CONTINUE BUSINESS AS USUAL.
YEAH, I DON'T WANNA BE REDUNDANT.
UM, BUT I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORT.
UM, YOU KNOW, LOCAL GOVERNMENT DOES WORK AND, AND ONE OF THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF RESIDENTS COMING TO US, BUSINESS OWNERS COMING TO US, OURSELVES, TRAVELING ON THOSE ROADS, SEEING THE FRUSTRATION OF THESE, YOU KNOW, A MILE AND A HALF OR HALF A MILE BEING BLOCKED OFF AND NO ONE'S WORKING ON THAT.
AND WE GAVE YOU THE CHALLENGE TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION AND YOU DID SO AND YOU SAW ALL THOSE AWARDS EARLIER TODAY.
SO I WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR BEING CREATIVE AND FOR LOOKING AT AND SOLVING THIS PROBLEM, UH, BECAUSE I ALREADY SEE SOME OF THOSE CONES ON THE SIDEWALK AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.
SO EVEN THOUGH WE HAVEN'T OFFICIALLY IMPLEMENT THIS, I KNOW SOME OF, UH, THE DEVELOPERS ARE SAYING, HEY, THEY'RE TAKING THIS SERIOUS AND WE'RE GONNA OPEN THESE ROADS UP WHEN THERE'S NO ONE WORKING ON IT.
COUNCIL MEMBER POSTON IN THE INTEREST OF TIME.
DITTO COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO
SO THANK YOU FOR DOING EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM OTHERS? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
[8. Purchase of Fiber Network Repair and Upgrade Services Move City Council approve the purchase of repair and upgrade services to the municipal fiber network, utilizing multiple vendors available under the State of Arizona Contract No. CTR062466, Communications Cabling Systems, and the City of Tucson Contract No. 212710, Installation, Maintenance, and Repair of Fiber/Copper Networks, for the period of one year, beginning January 1, 2025, through December 31, 2025, in a combined amount not to exceed $4,636,063. Council Focus Area(s):]
NEXT ITEM, NUMBER EIGHT, QUESTION ON PROJECT DETAILS OF THE FIBER NETWORK REPAIR AND UPGRADE.DENNIS OST, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO.
UM, MAYOR, I KNOW WE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF, UH, MONEY OVER THE YEARS ON FIBER.
IT'S VERY ROBUST AND IT'S REDUNDANT SYSTEM.
UM, THIS IS A LARGE PROJECT AND I JUST WANT TO GET A LITTLE MORE DETAIL OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AND WHERE WE'RE GOING AND HOW WE'RE, WE'RE GO, WHAT THE IMPLEMENTATION TIMEFRAMES ARE.
UH, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, ORLANDO, WE'RE, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS A, A PROGRAM RATHER THAN A PROJECT PER SE.
THE, THE PROGRAM COMES FROM THE 2020 FIBER MASTER PLAN, AND THAT PLAN OUTLINES A NUMBER OF PROJECTS, UH, WHICH INVOLVE FIBER CABLE REPLACEMENTS, UH, PLACING FIBER IN CONDUIT WHERE WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE, UH, FIBER TO CONNECT BUILDINGS THAT AREN'T CURRENTLY CONNECTED.
UH, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF IMPLEMENTING, UH, FOUR NEW HUB LOCATIONS, UH, CORE SWITCH LOCATIONS, WHICH WILL ALLOW, UH, UH, REDUNDANCY AND RESILIENCY TO THE NETWORK THAT WILL IMPROVE IT.
SO THAT, UH, A LOT OF OUR CRITICAL CIRCUITS, ALL THE PUBLIC SAFETY STUFF THAT'S WORKING OVER THAT, UH, WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT NETWORKS THAT ACTUALLY RIDE OVER OUR FIBER, INCLUDING, UH, THREE DIFFERENT PD NETWORKS, UH, TRAFFIC NETWORKS, SOME MUNICIPAL UTILITIES, THE SCADA NETWORK, A NUMBER OF THOSE THINGS THAT ALL RIDE OVER IT, INCLUDING OUR NORMAL CITY EMAIL INFRASTRUCTURE.
EVERYTHING THAT'S COMING THROUGH, UH, GOING OUT TO THE WEB IS ALL RIDING OVER THAT FIBER NETWORK.
AND SO IT'S A, A, A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT'S IN THAT MASTER PLAN TO FILL IN ALL THE GAPS AND RECONNECT, RECONFIGURE, AND SPLICE ALL OF THE EXISTING NETWORK TO MAKE IT, UH, MEET THOSE DEMANDS.
SO THE TIMEFRAME IS, IT'S A, A 13 PLUS YEAR CIP PROGRAM.
WE'RE IN THE ZERO TO SEVEN YEAR RANGE.
WE'RE, WE'RE, AS I SAID, ONCE WE DEPLOY THESE CORE SWITCHES IN THE NEXT YEAR, WE'LL START CUTTING OVER THOSE CIRCUITS.
SO IN THE NEXT FOUR TO FIVE YEARS, WE SHOULD BE IN A MUCH MORE RESILIENT POSITION THAN WE HAVE BEEN THE LAST FEW.
APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE ON THAT AS WELL.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR DENNIS? THANK YOU, DENNIS.
[23. Resolution No. 5859 Approving the Development Agreement Between the City of Chandler and Brinshore Development, LLC, Relating to Real Property Located at 73 S. Hamilton Street Move City Council pass and adopt Resolution No. 5859, approving the Development Agreement between the City of Chandler and Brinshore Development, LLC, relating to real property located at 73 S. Hamilton St. to be known as The Haven on Hamilton; directing the City Manager to give specific consideration to The Haven on Hamilton applicants belonging to special populations such as seniors, persons with disabilities and veterans; and directing the City to continue its redevelopment efforts for the Chandler Public Housing Portfolio. Council Focus Area(s):]
NEXT, UM, I CALLED IN ITEM NUMBER 23, UH, LEAH POWELL, BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THE, UH, PROJECT COMING UP.TELL US HOW MANY, WHERE IT IS, UH, TIMELINE, JUST SO OUR RESIDENTS CAN KNOW.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS A VERY, VERY BIG PROJECT FOR US, AND WE ARE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT BEING HERE THIS EVENING.
UM, VERY QUICKLY I WANNA INTRODUCE EMILY ALIN, WHO IS WITH BRINSHORE, OUR DEVELOPMENT PARTNER, EMILY IS HERE, SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR BRINSHORE.
AND THEN I'M GONNA HAVE AMY GO AHEAD AND COME UP AND DO THE PRESENTATION, AND WE BOTH WILL BE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
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I BRIEFLY WE'LL DISCUSS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH OUR CO-DEVELOPER TO REDEVELOP THE CITY'S PUBLIC HOUSING SITE THAT'S OVER 50 YEARS OLD.UNDER YOUR DIRECTION, WE HAVE EMBARKED ON THE PUBLIC HOUSING REDEVELOPMENT STRATEGY.
THIS INVOLVES THE SECOND PROJECT WITHIN OUR INVENTORY THAT WE WILL BE REDEVELOPING.
THE PURPOSE IS TO REDESIGN OUR AGED PUBLIC HOUSING AND REALLY GET A CREATIVE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
AND TONIGHT I'LL JUST SPEAK ABOUT, UM, OUR NEW PROJECT, WHICH IS CALLED THE HAVEN ON HAMILTON.
AS YOU ARE AWARE, WE HAD VILLAS ON MCQUEEN.
IT WAS LO, IT'S LOCATED ON 77 NORTH MCQUEEN.
WE HAD THE GROUNDBREAKING ON JUNE 27TH.
IT HAS 157 UNITS, AND WE WILL BE MOVING, UM, RESIDENTS, UH, PUBLIC HOUSING RESIDENTS ONTO THE SITE.
THE NEXT SITE, UM, UH, REGARDS TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UH, WITH, UH, BEING PROPOSED TONIGHT IS THE HAVEN ON HAMILTON, WHICH IS THE SECOND PROJECT.
IT WILL BE VACATED ONCE THE RESIDENTS ARE MOVED ON TO VILLAS ON MCQUEEN.
THE GROUNDBREAKING IS LATE 2026, AND WE ANTICIPATE 250 UNITS.
THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH BRINSHORE BRINSHORE IS A NATIONAL PUBLIC OR, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER THAT'S EXPERIENCED WITH PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITIES, SPECIFICALLY USING THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE DEMONSTRATION PROGRAM IN WHAT WE WILL BE REPOSITIONING, UH, THIS PUBLIC HOUSING PROJECT.
UM, IT IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UM, WE'LL BE THE CO-DEVELOPER WITH, UH, BRINSHORE.
WE WILL RETAIN OWNERSHIP OF THE LAND THROUGH A GROUND LEASE.
IT WILL BE A 30 YEAR AFFORDABILITY PERIOD.
UM, AGAIN, FOR RESIDENTS THAT ARE LOW AND MODERATE INCOME, THE SITE PLAN RENDERING IS, UH, BEFORE YOU THERE.
IT'S CONSISTENT OF FIVE BEDROOM OR FIVE BUILDINGS WITH A COMMUNITY ROOM, AMENITIES FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND REALLY, UM, ENJOYING THE, UM, THE SITE SURROUNDING OF THE, UM, UH, AMENITIES.
WE POTENTIALLY WILL HAVE A HEAD START BUILDING.
UM, WE'LL HAVE A GYM, POTENTIALLY A, A SITE, UM, SPLASH, SPLASH PAD FOR THE KIDS.
SO IT'S, UM, A VERY UNIQUE PROJECT, MULTI-GENERATIONAL WITH, UM, LOTS OF GOING, LOTS GOING ON IN THE, IN THE PROJECT.
THE POTENTIAL UNIT MIX IS 250 UNITS, LIKE I MENTIONED, ONE TO FIVE BEDROOMS. WE'LL BE TRANSITIONING, UM, 37 UNITS, UM, IN ADDITION TO 53 PUBLIC HOUSING UNITS.
AND THEN WE'LL BE ADDING 160 NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, UNITS ON THAT SITE.
AGAIN, IT'S MULTI-GENERATIONAL LIVING, UM, WITH ALL THE AMENITIES THERE LISTED, OUR FINANCING STRATEGY IS WE HAVE A COMMITMENT FROM MARICOPA COUNTY OF $5 MILLION.
WE WILL BE UTILIZING THAT FOR CONSTRUCTION AND SOFT COST.
WE WILL HAVE A BOND ALLOCATION WITH THE CITY OF CHANDLER'S, IDA AND, UM, APPLYING FOR A 4% TAX, UH, LOW-INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT.
AND UTILIZING THE RAD SECTION 18 BLEND OUR TIMELINE.
WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD OUR FIRST MEETING WITH RESIDENTS TODAY.
WE'LL BE MEETING TOMORROW, UM, WITH THE PUBLIC HOUSING RESIDENTS.
SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT TODAY, THEY'RE VERY, VERY EXCITED.
UM, THEY ARE ASKING WHEN IT'S GONNA BE BUILT, AND WE SAID THIS IS THE FIRST TI YOU KNOW, THIS FIRST PROCESS.
SO IT WILL TAKE A LITTLE WHILE.
BUT, UM, WE WILL BE VERY COMMUNICATIVE WITH OUR PUBLIC HOUSING RESIDENTS THE ENTIRE PROCESS.
UM, WE'LL BE SUBMITTING OUR FINANCING APPLICATIONS, UM, HOPING TO START CONSTRUCTION, UM, LATE 2026, AND THEN CONSTRUCTION WILL TAKE UP TO 24 MONTHS.
WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
I'M, I'M PERSONALLY EXCITED THAT WE'RE UPGRADING OUR HOUSING STOCK FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN LIVING IN THESE AS WELL AS ADDING SUBSTANTIAL, THAT WILL BE MULTI-GENERATIONAL.
SERVE OUR SENIORS, SERVE OUR VETERANS, SERVE OUR GENERAL POPULATION.
IT'S, UH, THERE'S PUBLIC HOUSING OR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AVAILABLE RIGHT THERE.
THIS JUST KIND OF CHECKS SO MANY OF THE BOXES SERVICES, UH, THAT WORKS FOR US.
SO I KNOW WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT MOVING AHEAD, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A HIGHLIGHT AND A SHOUT OUT TO THIS, TO OUR COMMUNITY.
SO, UH, COUNCIL, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? GREAT GRATITUDE THAT WE'RE DOING.
DO YOU HAVE YOUR MIC ON? OH, NO, THANK YOU.
MI WAS SAYING THAT GREAT GRATITUDE TOWARD THIS PROJECT.
I, I'VE WATCHED CHANDLER 38 YEARS, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE MAKING FOR US TO BE ABLE TO TRANSFER
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THOSE PEOPLE INTO THIS GRAND AREA.I REMEMBER WHEN THE KIDS CAME TO THE FIFTH FLOOR TO VISIT THAT LIVE INTO THAT SAME BUILDING.
AND WHEN I TOLD THEM THAT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE, THEY, ALL THEY WANTED WAS A BASKETBALL COURT.
AND WHEN WE TOLD THEM WE COULDN'T BUILD ONE BECAUSE WE WERE GONNA BUILD BETTER FOR THEM, THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE US.
THEY REALLY, YOU SAID YOU HAD YOUR FIRST MEETING WITH THE FAMILY MEMBERS, SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE THESE KIDS BEING TRANSITIONED INTO THIS APARTMENT AND THEIR LIVES NEVER GONNA BE THE SAME.
SO THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS WORKING SO HARD WITH YOUR TEAM.
IT'S LEAH AND YOUR TEAM REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO IN THAT AREA, UH, OF HOUSING FOR US HERE IN CHANDLER.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, SO, ALL RIGHT.
[24. Resolution No. 5854 Approving Contract No. 535-25 Between the Arizona Department of Housing and the City of Chandler to Accept State Housing Trust Funds to Prevent Housing Insecurity Move City Council pass and adopt Resolution No. 5854 approving Contract No. 535-25 between the Arizona Department of Housing and the City of Chandler to accept State Housing Trust Funds in the amount of $343,387 to prevent housing insecurity; and authorizing the City Manager to take all action necessary or prudent to carry out the intent of this resolution and implement the program. Council Focus Area(s):]
UH, ITEM NUMBER 24, COUNCIL MEMBER POSTED A BRIEFING ON THE STATE HOUSING TRUST FUNDS TO PREVENT HOUSING INSECURITY.THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
LEMME PULL UP THE PRESENTATION.
THIS PRESENTATION IS, UM, ON ITEM NUMBER 24.
THESE ARE THE STATE HOUSING TRUST FUNDS.
THIS IS A NEW CONTRACT THAT WE'LL BE RECEIVING FROM THE STATE TO YOUR CONTRACT.
AND THE GOAL OF THE PROGRAM IS TO EXPAND OUR PREVENTION ACTIVITIES FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
AND IT'S THROUGH ONE TIME ASSISTANT.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BUDGET IS FOR 343,000, AND WE EXPECT TO SERVE UP TO ABOUT 120 FAMILIES.
UM, I DO WANNA POINT OUT IN THIS PICTURE, IF YOU SEE THE YOUNG MAN THERE, I KIND OF NOTICED THE LOOK ON HIS FACE.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS YOUNG MAN EVER HAD A ROOM OF HIS OWN ON THIS DAY.
AS WE TALK ABOUT WHAT THESE FUNDS ARE USED FOR.
THESE FUNDS ARE USED TO HELP THESE FAMILIES COMING OUT OF HOMELESSNESS GET INTO NEW APARTMENTS.
SO IMAGINE HOW EXPENSIVE IT IS TO MOVE INTO AN APARTMENT OR A HOUSE.
YOU'VE GOT ALL OF THOSE APPLICATION FEES, YOU HAVE ALL THE DEPOSITS, THE UTILITY DEPOSITS, JUST SO MANY THINGS.
AND MORE AND MORE YOU'RE SEEING, WE'RE SEEING LAYERS OF ADMINISTRATIVE FEES ON TOP OF IT.
AND SO THESE FUNDS ARE SO CRUCIAL TO KEEPING PEOPLE GETTING, KEEPING 'EM MOVING IN THAT CYCLE, GETTING THEM HOUSED.
THAT'S WHAT THESE FUNDS ARE FOR, TO BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE IN.
SOMETIMES WE ARE PAYING OFF PAST EVICTIONS OR OTHER, MAYBE IT'S A MONEY THAT'S OWED ON A UTILITY SO THEY CAN START THEIR NEW SERVICES.
SO IT'S, THESE ARE CRUCIAL FUNDS AND WE'RE SO EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS TYPE OF FUNDING.
UM, WHAT I, WHAT'S REALLY EXCITING TO ME IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STATISTICS, WE STARTED THIS PROGRAM WITH THE HOUSING STABILITY SERVICES AFTER COVID.
WHAT WE FOUND IS WE HAD OUR TENANT EIGHT RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT WE'VE HAD FOR SINCE 2013.
WE WERE GIVEN EMERGENCY HOUSING VOUCHERS THROUGH COVID, AND THOSE REALLY REQUIRE INTENSIVE CASE MANAGEMENT, BUT THE FUNDING WASN'T THERE FOR CASE MANAGEMENT THROUGH COVID DOLLARS, SOME OTHER FUNDING, SOME GENERAL FUND.
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE STAFF THAT WORK ON THIS PROGRAM.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE SU SUCCESS RATE WE'RE HAVING.
ANOTHER KEY COMPONENT IN HERE IS WE HAVE SECTION EIGHT FAMILIES THAT HAVE DIFFICULTY FINDING UNITS AND HAVE DIFFICULTY MOVING IN AS WELL.
AND YOU HEARD AMY EARLIER TALK ABOUT WE HAVE A 96% UTILIZATION RATE ON OUR SECTION EIGHT VOUCHERS.
NOW THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS HOUSING STABILITY PROGRAM AND THIS FLEXIBLE FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO HELP PEOPLE GET HOUSED STABLY.
UM, AND AGAIN, THE KEY IS HAVING THIS INTENSIVE CASE MANAGEMENT THAT WE HAVE.
OTHER CITIES KEEP ASKING WHAT CHANDLER'S DOING DIFFERENTLY, AND THIS IS WHAT CHANDLER'S DOING DIFFERENTLY.
WE'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS THIS PROGRAM LIKE THIS, WHICH IS WHY THE STATE ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO US ABOUT PROVIDING FUNDING.
JUST A COUPLE SUCCESS STORIES FOR YOU.
YOU SEE THE FAMILY ON THE LEFT, THIS IS THEIR SECURITY DEPOSIT.
UM, THIS FAMILY BECAME HOMELESS BECAUSE OF SOME MEDICAL ISSUES AND INCREASE IN RENT.
AND THEN THIS GENTLEMAN BELOW IS A GENTLEMAN WHO IS BLIND AND HE WAS IN A VERY UNSAFE SITUATION, SO WE WERE ABLE TO SAFELY REHOUSE HIM AND GET HIM INTENSIVE CASE MANAGEMENT AND HE'S GONE ON TO A VOCATIONAL TRAINING PROGRAM AND GET HIM BACK INTO THE WORKFORCE.
ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER POSTON.
JUST ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, I'VE DONE WORK WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN MOVED INTO AN APARTMENT FOR THE FIRST TIME THAT HAVE HAD HOME, YOU KNOW, INSECURITY, HOUSING INSECURITY FOR YEARS AND YEARS.
AND THERE IS NOTHING LIKE THOSE PERSONAL STORIES.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU SHARING SOME OF THE STORIES THAT CAME TONIGHT.
BUT MOSTLY I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING AND ALSO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE THERE IS SUCH A FOCUS ON HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS RIGHT NOW, AND YOU ARE DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB.
AND I ALSO WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT IT'S A MULTI-PRONGED APPROACH, THAT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THOSE ITEMS
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ON OUR AGENDA AND THERE IS NO ONE SINGLE SOLUTION, BUT YOU CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD AND TRY AND FIND NEW SOLUTIONS.AND I JUST THINK THIS IS AN AMAZING PROGRAM AND APPRECIATE THE PERSONAL STORIES THAT YOU SHARED.
THE MAYOR COUNCILOR POST, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND YOU, YOU POINTED OUT SOMETHING THAT'S SO IMPORTANT.
AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE'VE LOOKED AT SOME MATH RECENTLY AND IT'S ABOUT $50,000 A YEAR THAT THE COST TO SERVICES OF SOMEONE WHO IS ON THE STREET.
SO COMPARE THAT TO GETTING A FAMILY MOVED IN.
AND OF COURSE IT MULTIPLIES MORE PEOPLE YOU HAVE IN A FAMILY.
SO COMPARE THAT TO GETTING SOMEBODY MOVED IN AND STABLY HOUSED.
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, MAYOR, COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE SOME PARTNERS INTO, UM, HELPING, FOR EXAMPLE, A FAITH-BASED, UH, ORGANIZATION THAT WILL HELP YOU GET THINGS, UH, FOR WELCOMING THOSE PEOPLE WHEN OUT THERE MOVING INTO THOSE APARTMENTS LIKE YOUR STENCILS THAT THEY NEED, THEY NEED BED SHEETS, ALL KINDS OF THINGS LIKE THAT.
ARE YOU WORKING WITH ANY GROUP, PARTICULARLY IN THE COMMUNITY THAT SUPPORT YOU INTO THOSE TRANSITIONS? YES, THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS.
WE DO THAT IN A COUPLE OF WAYS.
WE, WE, UM, FIRST OF ALL THROUGH FOREST CITY, CHANDLER, WE HAVE HAD VARIOUS PARTNERS COME FORWARD.
WE ALSO HAVE OUR CHANGEUP FUND THAT COMES THROUGH THAT STARTED OUT THROUGH FOREST CITY CHANDLER, WHERE RESIDENTS CAN DONATE FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
WE SOMETIMES HAVE UNIQUE SITUATIONS WHERE WE MIGHT USE THOSE FUNDS TO GET SOMEBODY INTO A APARTMENT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING.
IN THIS PROGRAM, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE HAD, UM, VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS SPONSOR THE MOVING KITS.
WE DO HAVE A STANDARD MOVING KIT THAT WE USE, AND WE, I BELIEVE STILL HAVE THAT UP EVEN ON AMAZON, ON A LINK WHERE SOMEBODY WANTED TO DONATE EITHER A PIECE OR ALL OF A MOVE IN KIT.
THERE WOULD BE THAT ABILITY TO DO THAT.
WE, WE DEFINITELY ARE LOOK FOR PARTNERS ALL THE TIME.
WE STILL ACCEPT A LOT OF USED FURNITURE.
WE DO HAVE TO CONTRACT WITH THE MOVING COMPANY BECAUSE IT'S JUST TOO MUCH FOR STAFF TO, TO PHYSICALLY MOVE SOMEONE IN MM-HMM
SO PART OF THESE FUNDS GO FOR CONTRACTING WITH MOVING COMPANIES, BUT WE WILL, UM, ACCEPT ITEMS FROM TIME TO TIME.
WE DON'T HAVE STORAGE PER SE FOR THEM, BUT WE WILL STILL ACCEPT SOME ITEMS WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO GET, WHEN WE KNOW WE HAVE SOMEBODY LINED UP FOR HOUSING.
AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING IN THAT SPACE.
AND WHAT I LOVE ABOUT IT IS THE FACT THAT WE CAN QUANTIFY THIS THING.
WE HAVE NUMBERS AND WE KNOW THE PEOPLE FACE TO FACE AND I HAVE ENCOUNTERED SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN INTO THIS PROGRAM AND NOW THEY ARE REALLY WORKING AND DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IN THIS COMMUNITY.
FIRST OF ALL, UM, HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY AGAIN YESTERDAY.
AND TWO, IF YOU HADN'T RECENTLY, UH, WON A GABE ZIMMERMAN AWARD, I WOULD SAY YOU OUGHT TO.
WELL, WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT WE HAVE FOR MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
AGAIN, CHANDLER STANDS OUT BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE, AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT WITHOUT THE SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE HERE, SO THANK YOU.
[27. Agreement No. PD5-680-4852, with Marrero Armor, LLC, for Purchase of Rifle Shields Move City Council approve Agreement No. PD5-680-4852, with Marrero Armor, LLC., for the purchase of rifle shields, in an amount not to exceed $176,000. Council Focus Area(s):]
ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 27, CALLED UP BY COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS, A PRESENTATION ON THE RIFLE SHIELDS CHIEF CHAPMAN.SO GOOD EVENING, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UM, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE NEED FOR UPGRADING, UM, OUR, OUR PATROL SHIELDS THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU RIGHT NOW.
ONE, WHEN, UH, THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE CHANDLER POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE FACED WITH VOLATILE AND CRITICAL INCIDENTS, WE PRIORITIZE THE ELEMENTS OF TIME, DISTANCE, AND COVER TO SUCCESSFULLY RESOLVE THEM.
THE MORE TIME WE HAVE, THE MORE DISTANCE WE HAVE, AND THE BETTER COVER WE HAVE, THE GREATER PROPENSITY THERE IS TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL OUTCOME.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE LIVE IN A VERY DYNAMIC SITUATION AND SOMETIMES THESE ELEMENTS AREN'T PERFECT.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE, UH, TO HELP AND TO, UH, PROVIDE COVER FOR OUR DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES ARE THESE PATROL SHIELDS.
AND YOU SEE 'EM HERE BEFORE YOU.
UM, WE, WE ARE ASKING TO UPGRADE AND PURCHASE 36 OF THEM.
WE HAVE 18 PATROL TEAMS, SO THERE WOULD BE TWO ON EACH TEAM.
UM, AND THE DIFFERENCE IN THE UPGRADE, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO MAIN REASONS.
ONE, THESE HAVE ABOUT A FIVE YEAR LIFESPAN ON 'EM, AND THESE ARE COMING TO THE, UH, END OF SERVICE.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE TECHNOLOGY HAS GOTTEN BETTER.
AND THESE, THESE, UH, PATROL, THIS PATROL SHIELD, YOU SEE, WHICH IS BEING CARRIED, UH, BY OUR OFFICERS NOW, UM, IS ONLY, UM, RATED FOR HANDGUN ROUNDS TO BE RESISTANT.
THE NEW ONES THAT WE'RE ASKING TO BE PURCHASED, UH, ARE RIFLE ROUND RESISTANT.
AND, UH, BASED ON THE NUMBER OF THINGS HAPPENING ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND HERE IN THE VALLEY WHERE, UM, TAKING ON A LOT MORE RIFLE, UH,
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FIRE THAN WE ARE HANDGUN RIFLE.AND SO THIS, UH, ITEM BEFORE YOU WILL SERVE THE MEN AND WOMEN EVERY SINGLE DAY AND BE AT THEIR SERVICE.
SO IT, IT'S, IT'S NECESSITY FROM, UM, A TIMEOUT PHASE WITH THIS, AND THE TECHNOLOGY HAS GOTTEN MUCH BETTER.
AND, AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR ENTERTAIN COMMENTS.
CHIEF, I, I, I WANTED TO REALLY HEAR EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE EXPLAINING TO US, TO THE POINT WHERE WHAT IS THIS WAS GOING TO DO FOR THE DEPARTMENT AND HOW IT WAS GOING TO UPGRADE IT AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE MEN AND WOMEN GET HOME SAFELY EVERY NIGHT IF WE HAD TO USE SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND FOR INSTANCE, IN A SITUATION.
SO IT IS THE TESTAMENT TO THE FACT THAT WE AS MAYOR AND COUNCIL REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT OUR MONEY INTO THE PLACES WHERE WE KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO SERVE THE DEPARTMENT AND KEEP OUR POLICEMEN AND WOMEN VERY SAFE, UM, FOR THEM TO CONTINUE TO DO THE WORK THAT THEY WANNA DO.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BRINGING THESE KINDS OF ITEMS TO US WHENEVER THE NEEDS ARE THERE AND THEN THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE IT FOR THEM.
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SO, SO CHIEF AFTERWARDS, I'D LOVE TO SEE HOW HEAVY THAT IS, BUT I'LL WAIT TILL AFTER THE MEETING.
SO YEAH, I WAS GONNA ACTUALLY INVITE CHIEF WIGGINS UP HERE TO DO A LIVE FIRE DEMONSTRATION, BUT
SO IT'S OKAY
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY IT GOES.
[31. Agreement No. PW5-745-4850, with Vincon Engineering Construction, LLC, and Temcon Concete Construction, LLC, for Concrete Repair and Maintenance Services Move City Council approve Agreement No. PW5-745-4850, with Vincon Engineering Construction, LLC, and Temcon Concete Construction, LLC, for concrete repair maintenance services, in a combined amount not to exceed $8,144,000, for a one-year term, January 1, 2025, through December 31, 2025. Council Focus Area(s):]
NEXT ITEM CALLED IN ITEM 31 BY COUNCIL MEMBER POSTON LOOKING, UH, QUESTION ON CONCRETE REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE SERVICES.MR. KON OF QUESTIONS? YEAH, SUE THE MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER POSTON, UM, THIS EVENING, UM, WE HAVE ITEM 31.
ITEM 31 IS, UH, CONTRACT, UH, FOR TWO, UH, DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS THAT WE USE FOR OUR CONCRETE REPAIR.
UM, AS PART OF OUR CITY'S STREET REP REPAIRMENT PROGRAM, IT'S BEEN STANDARD PRACTICE THAT WHENEVER A ROAD IS REPAVED, WE ALSO REPAIR AND REPLACE ANY CONCRETE SIDEWALKS, CURBS, AND GUTTERS THAT ARE DAMAGED OR DO NOT MEET THE CURRENT SPECIFICATION OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT.
AND, UH, SO AS PART OF OUR, UH, $27.1 MILLION STREET REPAVING PROGRAM, WHICH WAS, UH, GIVEN TO US LAST YEAR, UM, THIS, THE CONCRETE WORK THAT WE HAVE TO DO IN ADVANCE OF ALL THIS REPAVING IS EXTENSIVE.
SO THE $8.1 MILLION CONTRACT CONTRACTS THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, ITEM 31 IS $8.1 MILLION TAKEN FROM THAT 27 MILLION IN OUR CAPITAL BUDGET.
AND IT, IT, IT CONSISTS OF ABOUT $1.1 MILLION IN GO BONDS.
AND THEN THE OTHER 7 MILLION IS COMING FROM THE, UH, HIGHWAY USER REVENUE FUND, WHICH IS A STATE FUND THAT COMES BACK TO US.
SO, UH, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY FOR CONCRETE REPAIR, BUT WE DO AN AWFUL LOT OF STREET WORK HERE IN CHANDLER TO KEEP OUR STREETS NICE.
AND SO THAT, THAT'S BEEN OUR PRACTICE IS TO DO THAT CONCRETE WORK, UM, IN ADVANCE.
SO IT'S ALL DONE WHEN, WHEN WE LEAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S BRAND NEW.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE CONVERSATION A LITTLE EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON AS WE DISCUSSED THIS.
IT JUST, WHEN YOU READ $8 MILLION FOR CONCRETE WORK, IT SOUNDS LIKE AN AWFUL LOT, BUT I KNOW WE'RE VERY PROACTIVELY DOING BOTH THE CONCRETE WORK AND THAT A DA WORK.
AND THEN I KNOW THERE WAS MAYBE EVEN A LITTLE, UM, I GUESS, UM, I DON'T WANNA SAY IT JUST A LITTLE NEGATIVITY AT THE VERY BEGINNING BECAUSE WE WEREN'T NOTIFYING OUR NEIGHBORS, BUT IT'S, IN MY OPINION, IT'S NOT WHETHER YOU MAKE A MISTAKE, IT'S HOW YOU CORRECT IT.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE THAT GOT CORRECTED BY THE CONTRACTOR VERY QUICKLY SO FAR AS, UH, AS THAT WE JUST RECENTLY AS A COUNCIL GOT KUDOS FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD REGARDING THIS PROGRAM.
AND SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN THAT THE A DA PROGRAM IS A LITTLE MORE INTENSIVE THAN JUST REPAIRING THE SIDEWALKS AND TO TALK ABOUT THAT PROGRAM A LITTLE BIT.
AND I APPRECIATE THE, UM, HIGHLIGHTING OF WHERE THOSE FUNDS ARE COMING FROM AS WELL.
SO WE HAVE A AMAZING TEAM, UH, OF, OF, UH, THREE INDIVIDUALS THAT SEE THIS WHOLE, THIS WHOLE PROGRAM AND THEY DO A FANTASTIC JOB.
NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
[41. Contracts and Agreements Administratively Approved, Month of November 2024]
IS ITEM 41, CONTRACTS AND AGREEMENTS BY COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO.[00:30:01]
UH, YEAH, JUST A QUICK QUESTION.CITY MANAGER, UM, WE TALKED EARLIER TODAY, MAYOR, UM, AS YOU KNOW, FOR OUR WORK SESSION, THIS WAS DESIGNED AS AN OUTREACH PROGRAM TO TALK TO RESIDENTS AREA ABOUT POTENTIALLY EXTENDING OUR RUNWAY.
AND I DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE ANY MISCOMMUNICATION THAT WE'VE ALREADY STARTED ON A DESIGN OF THE RUNWAY 'CAUSE THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MISLEADING OR MIS POTENTIALLY MISCOMMUNICATING.
SO I ASKED THE CITY MANAGER TO ADDRESS THAT AND I'LL LET YOU, UH, EXPLAIN WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.
COUNCILOR ORLANDO, THANK YOU FOR CALLING THIS IN FOR CLARIFICATION.
HAPPY TO EXPLAIN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND IT IS EXACTLY TO YOUR POINT WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE WORK SESSION SEVERAL WEEKS AGO WITH OUR AIRPORT MANAGER, RYAN REEVES.
SO WE ARE IN A CONCEPTUAL PHASE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RENDERINGS OF WHAT POTENTIALLY MAY BE DEPENDING ON THE REACTION THAT WE GET FROM OUR RESIDENTS.
AS WE KNOW THIS IS AN ISSUE WITH A LONG HISTORY.
THE INTENT OF THIS STUDY IS REALLY TO REACH OUT TO OUR COMMUNITIES, OUR BUSINESSES, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, OUR MAJOR EMPLOYERS, OUR AIRPORT STAKEHOLDERS, AND UNDERSTAND AT A MUCH DEEPER LEVEL THAN EVEN THE FAA REQUIRES.
WHAT IS PEOPLE'S UNDERSTANDING OF THE AIRPORT, UH, AND WHAT IS THEIR OPINION OR CONCERNS OR SUPPORT FOR, UH, FUTURE ENHANCEMENTS INCLUDING A POTENTIAL RUNWAY EXPANSION.
WE'RE NOT GONNA BE DOING ANY ACTUAL ENGINEERING OR TECHNICAL CALCULATIONS AT THIS TIME.
WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES MIGHT BE AND WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO YOU IN A FUTURE WORK SESSION DOWN THE ROAD TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE HEARD AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT STEPS MIGHT BE BEFORE WE PROCEED TO ANY TYPE OF ACTUAL ENGINEERING OR DESIGN WORK.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
THANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE YOUR CLARIFICATION TONIGHT.
AND ANY DESIGN IS PURELY FROM A PICTURE STANDPOINT SO THAT WE COULD SHOW POTENTIAL WHAT SOME OF THE OPTIONS WOULD BE, BUT THERE'S NO DESIGN.
I DIDN'T WANT ANYONE MISCOMMUNICATED THINK WE'RE ON OUR ROAD TO, UH, THAT'S CORRECT.
BUILDING THIS WITHOUT GETTING INPUT.
NOTHING YOU COULD, UH, TAKE FROM THIS PROCESS WOULD BE SUITABLE FOR CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
COUNSEL, THOSE ARE ALL OF THE ITEMS, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN CALLED IN AND I THINK VICE MAYOR WOULD LIKE TO GAMBLE OUT.
SO