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GOOD EVENING.WELCOME TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HEARING FOR MAY 15TH.
CAN I HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? CHAIRMAN HUMAN HERE.
AND COMMISSIONER LOPEZ FOR THE RECORD, HAS AN EXCUSED ABSENCE.
SO, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA OF PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
COMMISSIONER GOLA, I'D LIKE TO LEAD US, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[ Scheduled/Unscheduled Public Appearances Members of the audience may address any item not on the agenda. State Statute prohibits the Board or Commission from discussing an item that is not on the agenda, but the Board or Commission does listen to your concerns and has staff follow up on any questions you raise.]
UM, TO THE AUDIENCE, WE HAD A STUDY SESSION PRIOR TO THIS, AND I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF CARDS.ONE ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR, JEFF MILLER, UM, SAYS, IN FAVOR OF THE ITEM, DO YOU WANNA SPEAK JEFF ON THIS ITEM? UM, YES, SIR.
DO YOU WANNA COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? WE'RE GONNA LEAVE THIS, WE'RE GONNA LEAVE THE ITEMS ON CONSENT UNLESS SOMETHING COMES UP, BUT, UH, GOOD EVENING.
I WORK WITH ARIZONA LIQUOR INDUSTRY CONSULTANTS.
UH, WE REPRESENT MR. FAZIO ON THE FORUM.
THERE WERE JUST A FEW QUESTIONS THAT I WANTED TO MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE THAT NOTHING HAS CHANGED THERE SINCE THE LAST APPROVAL OF 22.
UM, THEY'VE NEVER HAD A COMPLAINT FOR LOUD MUSIC AT, AT, AT ALL.
YOU GUYS HAVE ALL BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH.
UM, HE'S JUST WILLING TO GIVE UP A, INSTEAD OF STAYING OPEN TILL NINE OR TILL 10 O'CLOCK DURING THE WEEK, HE'S GONNA REDUCE IT DOWN TO STAYING OPEN AT NINE, HOPING THAT THE PIECES OF THE NEIGHBORS, I, I REVIEWED AND, AND LOOKED AT THE CHART ABOUT THE DISTANCES.
I MEAN, AS A CROW FLIES, IT'S LIKE 0.63 MILES AWAY AND THERE'S A TON OF HOUSES IN BETWEEN THIS LOCATION, UM, AND, AND THOSE HOUSES.
AND IT'S EVEN GOT ACROSS GILBERT ROAD.
AND IN, IN THE LETTER THAT THEY EVEN SAID LIKE, THIS HAS A POTENTIAL FOR PROBLEMS. THERE'S NOT EVEN COMPLAINING ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST.
IT'S JUST LOOKING AT FUTURE PROBLEMS. AND, UH, THE FIOS ARE, ARE, ARE GREAT NEIGHBORS, GREAT IN THE COMMUNITY.
IN FACT, THEY BUILT THIS TO HAVE A COMMUNITY CENTER WHERE, YOU KNOW, BUSINESSES CAN COME THERE AND INTERIOR, UM, HAVE TRAININGS, OPEN IT UP TO THE RESIDENTS, UH, SPECIAL EVENT STUFF.
AND THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS, ANY OF THEM.
AND I GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH THE OWNER AND THE OWNER SAID, HEY, IF WE NEED TO GIVE HIM MY PERSONAL NUMBER, IF THERE'S EVER, YOU KNOW, A NOISE COMPLAINT, HE'D, HE'D ADDRESS IT SPECIFICALLY.
SO I JUST WANTED TO, UH, LET YOU GUYS KNOW HE REALLY IS WILLING TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND HE APPRECIATES, UM, YOUR GUYS' TIME ON THIS.
HE JUST WANTS TO CONTINUE DOING HIS BUSINESS.
I I'VE BEEN AT THE FACILITY, IT'S A NICE FACILITY, SO, AND THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY COMPLAINTS.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S STIPULATIONS IN THIS THING IF TO KEEP THE NOISE AND IF SOMEBODY DOES HAVE A COMPLAINT, I KNOW HE'D BE REALLY GOOD WITH THE NEIGHBORS AS WELL.
I'LL LET THE VICE CHAIR TALK ABOUT THAT ONE.
ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A SPEAKER CARD PERTAINING TO ITEM THREE ON THE AGENDA.
CHANDLER PALMS MEDICAL OFFICES, UH, MR. TERRY SMITH.
MR. SMITH, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
I'M THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER OF ARIZONA PRIORITY CARE.
UH, WE ARE THE, UH, THE ANCHOR TENANT, THE LARGEST TENANT IN ONE OF THE TWO OFFICE BUILDINGS IN THIS PROJECT, THE 5 85 BUILDING.
UH, WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR EIGHT YEARS.
UH, WE'VE GOT THREE DIFFERENT SUITES ON THE TWO FLOORS THAT THEY HAVE IN THAT BUILDING.
UH, AND WE'RE A, WE'RE A CHANDLER BASED BUSINESS FOR THE LAST 13 YEARS.
UM, WE, UH, ARIZONA PRIORITY CARE IS A LARGE MEDICAL GROUP.
WE HAVE OVER 4,000 HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS, A NETWORK OF, OF THOSE PROVIDERS ACROSS THE STATE.
UH, I WANNA POINT OUT THAT THIS PARTICULAR SPACE, THOUGH IS OUR CORPORATE SPACE, RIGHT? THESE ARE CORPORATE BUILDINGS, THE 500, THE 5 85 HISTORICALLY CORPORATE OFFICE SPACE, NOT MEDICAL OFFICE SPACE.
UH, AND, AND THAT'S REALLY BIG FOR US.
SO THE OWNERSHIP OF THIS, UH, OF THESE BUILDINGS CHANGED IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF TO TWO YEARS.
NEW OWNERS ARE THE ONES REQUESTING THE REZONING, UH, AND THEY'RE WANTING TO MAKE IT A MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING.
UH, THAT WHOLE CORRIDOR IS ALL
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ADMINISTRATIVE OR CORPORATE OFFICE BUILDING.UM, AND WE'VE GOT, UH, CONCERNS WITH THAT.
AND SO WE'RE OPPOSED TO THIS REZONING.
I MEAN, THE BIGGEST REASON IS IT'S FUNDAMENTALLY A DIFFERENT TYPE OF USE OF THE BUILDING AS A REAL MATERIAL CHANGE FROM, FROM ADMINISTRATIVE OR CORPORATE TYPE OFFICE SPACE TO INTRODUCING PATIENT FLOW, PATIENT CARE, CLINICAL SPACE, PATIENTS COMING INTO THE BUILDING, WHETHER IT BE A PHYSICIAN OFFICE, A MEDICAL GROUP, A CLINIC, A COUNSELING CENTER.
THESE ARE ALL PATIENT CARE, UH, SETTINGS.
AND THEY BELONG, IN MY OPINION, THEY BELONG IN A MEDICAL BUILDING.
AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS HAS BEEN.
USUALLY IF YOU HAVE, UH, TENANTS, UH, THAT HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN IN A BUILDING, IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING AND YOU BRING IN MEDICAL PRACTICES, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA CHASE THEM AWAY.
I CAN SPEAK FOR OUR ORGANIZATION.
AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE TO APPROVE THIS AND THEY FOLLOWED THROUGH AND INTRODUCE PHYSICIANS INTO THIS OFFICE, WE WOULD LIKELY NOT RENEW THE LEASE AND MOVE.
AND THAT'S REALLY UNFORTUNATE.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN IN CHANDLER, WE'VE BEEN IN THIS OFFICE FOR EIGHT YEARS.
UH, AND I HATE TO SEE THAT KIND OF DISRUPTION, BUT THAT'S WHAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN YOU MIX THE USE LIKE THIS AND BRING IN PHYSICIAN OFFICES TO BEEN THE CORPORATE CENTER.
AND THE KEY THING, UH, THERE IS THE, UH, YOU KNOW, PATIENT FLOW, PATIENT COMING INTO THE LOBBY, LOOKING AROUND FOR THEIR OFFICE UP AND DOWN THE HALLWAYS, THE RESTROOMS, BUT A CONSTANT FLOW OF PATIENTS IN AND OUT.
AND THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT USE THAN, THAN WHAT'S TYPICALLY THERE.
UH, THE OTHER THING I WANNA MENTION, THERE ARE 32 DIFFERENT MEDICAL SPECIALTIES.
YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'VE KIND OF SET ASIDE FOUR HERE THAT WOULD BE EXCLUDED, BUT THERE'S 28 OTHERS.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY AROUND WHAT TYPES OF SPECIALTIES COULD BE IN THE BUILDING.
SO THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S, UH, SOMETHING I THINK WE'RE POINTING OUT HERE AS WELL.
AGAIN, I THINK ALL PATIENT CARE AND THAT IN THAT SETTING IS VERY DISRUPTIVE.
AND FINALLY, I WANNA BRING UP MENTAL HEALTH.
'CAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY, UH, I THINK IS BEING RECOMMENDED.
MENTAL HEALTH IS A VERY BIG CONCERN.
UH, THERE'S SUCH A WIDE RANGE OF DIAGNOSIS AROUND PATIENTS NEEDING BEHAVIORAL HEALTH OR MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT, COUNSELING, YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE COURT ORDERED TREATMENT, IT COULD BE ANGER MANAGEMENT, IT COULD BE DRUG ADDICTIONS.
YOU COULDN'T, YOU KNOW, COULDN'T SIT HERE AND LIST THEM ALL.
BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT BELONGS INSERTED INTO A CORPORATE BUILDING LIKE THIS.
THERE'S ALSO A, A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE AROUND THIS.
THESE BUILDINGS BACK TO A PUBLIC PARK, THEY BACK TO DESERT BREEZE PARK, THERE'S A WALKWAY TO THE PARK.
THERE'S AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND A MIDDLE SCHOOL ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY.
DOES IT REALLY SOUND LIKE A GOOD IDEA? DOES APPROVE MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELING AND TREATMENT ACROSS FROM A PUBLIC PARK AND FROM THESE SCHOOLS? I WOULD SAY THE GENERAL PUBLIC WOULD SAY, NO, THAT'S A REALLY BAD IDEA.
AND IT'S, UH, I JUST WANNA GO ON RECORD THE SAME.
I THINK THERE'S A RISK THERE AND YOU SHOULD REALLY TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
SO AGAIN, FINALLY, I THINK, UH, THIS ALL WOULD TRANSLATE TO DISRUPTION IF THEY'RE ABLE TO BRING IN MEDICAL PRACTICES.
UM, I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR THIS TENANT, BUT WE'RE A BIG TENANT.
WE'RE THE BIG TENANT IN THE BUILDING AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT TYPE OF DISRUPTION AND, AND BEING FORCED TO LEAVE OR LOOK FOR SPACE ELSEWHERE IS PROBABLY THE OUTCOME.
JUST, UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSION? I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION JUST SO I MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING.
UM, YOU ARE LOCATED IN THE 5 85 BUILDING.
I'M SORRY? YOU'RE LOCATED IN THE 5 85 BUILDING? THE 5 85? CORRECT.
AND STAFF, THIS REQUEST IS FOR TENNESSEE IN THE 500, IT'S FOR FIVE HUNDRED AND FIVE EIGHTY FIVE.
IT'S KIND OF LIST 500 HERE, BUT IT'S BOTH BUILDINGS, UH, THROUGH THE CHAIR.
UH, VICE MAYOR, IT WOULD BE FOR BOTH OF THE BUILDINGS.
AND I JUST GOT A PROMOTION TO VICE MAYOR, SO THANK YOU
I'M NOT SURE THAT THE REAL VICE MAYOR WILL BE VERY PLEASED WITH THAT, BUT THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR THANK YOU.
DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT, ON THOSE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS? I'M JUST GONNA JUMP IN REAL QUICK.
UM, WHEN STAFF RECEIVES A REQUEST TO ALLOW, UH, MEDICAL USES INTO AN EXISTING BUILDING, WE REVIEW THE REQUEST THROUGH, UM, THE LENS OF WHAT KIND OF POTENTIAL IMPACTS THERE MIGHT BE ON THE SITE AND ON NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, UH, TRAFFIC, PARKING, UM, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UM, FOR THAT REASON, STAFF IS PROPOSING, AS, YOU KNOW, A STIPULATION THAT WOULD LIMIT THE TYPES OF MEDICAL USES.
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BOTH BUILDINGS ALLOW FOR GENERAL OFFICE, UM, TO BE, UH, AND TO OCCUPY THOSE SPACES.AND THAT PARKING RECORD FOR THE GENERAL OFFICE IS ONE SPACE PER 250 SQUARE FEET IF WE WERE TO ALLOW ALL MEDICAL USES.
UM, SO THERE ARE CERTAIN TYPES OF MEDICAL USES AS WAS MENTIONED BEFORE, THAT THAT CAN BE MORE INTENSE AND WOULD REQUIRE MORE PARKING AND MIGHT POSSIBLY CREATE A PARKING SITUATION WHERE THERE THERE'D BE, UH, PARKING SPILLING OVER ONTO THE STREETS AND ONTO ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
AND SO WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.
SO STAFF IS PROPOSING TO LIMIT THE TYPES OF MEDICAL USES TO, UM, TO THOSE THAT ARE NOT AS INTENSE.
AND THE WAY WE'RE DOING THAT IS BY REQUIRING A PARKING STUDY FOR ANY MEDICAL USE THAT MIGHT COME BEFORE US.
AT THE TIME THAT THEY REQUEST A TENANT IMPROVEMENTS PERMIT, THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD REVIEW, WE WOULD ASK THEM TO SUBMIT A PARKING STUDY, WE WOULD REVIEW IT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE NOT EXCEEDING ONE SPACE PER 250 SQUARE FEET SO THAT IT, IT REMAINS TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE OFFICE THAT WAS APPROVED ORIGINALLY ON THAT SITE.
SO THAT, THAT IS THE LENS THROUGH WHICH, UH, STAFF IS REVIEWING AND RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSION ON THAT ITEM? OKAY, THANK YOU.
[ Consent Agenda Items listed on the Consent Agenda may be enacted by one motion and one vote. If a discussion is required by members of the Board or Commission, the item will be removed from the Consent Agenda for discussion and determination will be made if the item will be considered separately.]
SO THESE FIVE ITEMS WILL BE VOTED ON IN ONE MOTION.IS ANYBODY ON IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WANTS TO HEAR ON ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE PRESENTED TONIGHT? C NONE.
WHAT IS THE COMMISSION'S PLEASURE? I, UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE MODIFICATION OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR, UH, STIPULATION NUMBER 10, CHANGING THE HOURS TO 9:00 PM AS REFERENCED BY STAFF'S MEMO.
OKAY, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER QUINN.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I, FOR THE RECORD, I'LL BE RECUSING MYSELF ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.
UM, DUE TO A CONFLICT, UM, THE HISTORY OF THIS WHOLE PROPERTY AND STUFF.
SO, UM, WITH THAT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[6. Election of Officers Move Planning and Zoning Commission elect a Chair and Vice Chair of the Planning and Zoning Commission.]
NEXT ITEM IS ELECTION OF OFFICERS.UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR CHAIR, CHAIR,
AND, UH, CHAIR, IF I COULD, WE SHOULD PROBABLY JUST STATE THE NAME.
I'M NOT SURE SHE REMEMBERS IT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO NOMINATE SHERRY, SHERRY FOR VICE CHAIR SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THIS IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OKAY, STAFF, ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS?
[7. The next Regular Meeting will be held on Wednesday, June 5, 2024, in the Chandler City Council Chambers, 88 E. Chicago Street, Chandler, Arizona.]
NEXT REGULAR MEETING IS JUNE 5TH HERE IN THE CHAMBERS.EVERYBODY HAVE A GREAT MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND.