Nov 09, 2023 City Council Meeting 11/09/2023

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GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO THE REGULAR CHANDLER CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF NOVEMBER 9TH, 2023.

THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US.

I'D LIKE TO CALL OUR, OUR OPENER MEETING.

CALL IT TO ORDER CLERK, PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL.

MAYOR HARTKE, PRESENT, VICE MAYOR ORLANDO.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ENCINAS PRESENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS PRESENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER POSTED HERE.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

THANK YOU.

CITY CLERK.

OUR INDICATION WILL BE BROUGHT FORTH TONIGHT BY REVEREND UH, ROY CHERIN.

IS REVEREND CHERIN HERE? OH, THERE YOU ARE, SIR.

WELCOME AND OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART.

UH, IN THE BOOK OF PROVE SAYS, BY THE BLESSING OF THE PRIDE, THE CITY IS EXALTED.

I BLESS OUR HONORABLE MAYOR, KEVIN HARTKE, THE VICE MAYOR AND ALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I PRAY FOR THE CHIEF OF POLICE, THE FIRE CHIEF, AND ALL THE MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM WHO PROTECTED THIS GREAT CITY OF CHANDLER.

WE BLESS OUR SCHOOLS, COMMUNITY, COLLEGES, AND UNIVERSITIES AND STUDENTS.

I PRAY THAT THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF CHARITABLE LIVING, UNITY, HARMONY AND RESPECTING AND VALUING EACH OTHER.

MAY I PRAY THAT, UH, NEW JOB MARKETS WILL BE OPEN FOR THE CITY SO THAT OUR CITIZENS WILL FLOURISH ALSO, I HUMBLY PRAY FOR PEACE TO BE RESTORED IN THE MIDDLE EAST SOON.

I PRAY FOR THIS, UH, COUNCIL MEETING TONIGHT AND ALL THE DECISIONS THAT THEY MAKE WILL GLORIFY THE LIVING GOD.

LASTLY, I PRAY THAT AS WE CELEBRATE THANKSGIVING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, LET US, HELP US, UH, TO HAVE A HEART OF THANKSGIVING AND GRATITUDE TO THE PROVIDER, PROTECTOR AND THE PEACEMAKER.

WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR.

MY LORD, I PRAY ALL THIS IN THE MATCHLESS NAME OF MY SAVIOR TO JESUS CHRIST.

AMEN.

AMEN.

AMEN.

AMEN.

THANK YOU FOR THAT PEACEFUL MESSAGE.

PASTOR, PLEASE JOIN ME IN RECITING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

AYE.

PLEDGE, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND DUE THE REPUBLIC FOR WISHES STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU, PASTOR.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

COUNCIL.

[ Consent Agenda Items listed on the Consent Agenda may be enacted by one motion and one vote. If a discussion is required by members of the governing body, the item will be removed from the Consent Agenda for discussion and determination will be made if the item will be considered separately. Proposed Motion: Move to approve the Consent Agenda of the November 9, 2023, Regular Meeting, Items 1 - 37.]

WE HAD ROBUST CONVERSATIONS ABOUT A FEW OF THESE ITEMS. I DON'T SEE ANY SPEAKER CARDS RELATED TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

UH, UNLESS SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO PULL ANY OF THESE TO ACTION, UH, A MOTION WOULD BE IN ORDER.

MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

YES.

I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ON NOVEMBER THE NINTH.

REGULAR MEETING ITEMS ONE THROUGH 37.

I SECOND WE HAVE, UH, MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS.

ANY RECUSALS? SEEING NONE.

COUNSEL, PLEASE VOTE.

VICE MAYOR ORLANDO? YES.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU.

UH,

[38. Introduction and Tentative Adoption of Ordinance No. 4992 Amending Chapter 14 of the City Code to Expand the Definition of Animal Cruelty and Allow Seizure of Animals When There is Evidence of Abuse Move City Council introduce and tentatively adopt Ordinance No. 4992 amending Chapter 14 of the City Code to more specifically define animal cruelty; to include a new offense for animal hoarding; to strengthen the City’s unlawful restraint law; to allow peace officers to seize animals for cruelty, hoarding, or unlawful restraint; to provide for the disposition of displaced animals; and to authorize post seizure hearings to determine the lawfulness of any seizure and forfeiture of any animal subjected to cruelty, hoarding, or unlawful restraint. Council Focus Area(s):]

SO COULD WE FIRST HAVE A, A PRESENTATION THAT WOULD BE YOU CITY ATTORNEY.

YES, MAYOR.

IT WOULD BE.

THANK YOU.

JUST A SECOND HERE.

SO MAYOR, WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT, UM, SOME PROPOSED UPDATES TO CHAPTER 14, PARTICULARLY AS THEY RELATE TO ANIMAL CRUELTY NEGLECT AND THE PROCESS FOR SEIZING ANIMALS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO ABUSE AND NEGLECT.

AND I JUST WANNA REMIND THE COUNCIL, WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT AMENDMENTS TO OUR CITY CODE, NOT ABOUT PARTICULAR CASES THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION.

SO IT WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF THE OPEN MEETING LAW AND PLUS THIS IS NOT THE APPROPRIATE FORUM FOR THAT.

SO WE'RE HERE JUST TO TALK ABOUT THE AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY CODE AND TO GIVE THE COUNCIL A HISTORY

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THESE CHANGES BEGAN A FEW YEARS, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WE STARTED TALKING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND LAW ABOUT HOW TO IMPROVE, UM, OUR CODE TO PROVIDE MORE CLARITY AS TO WHAT CONSTITUTES, UH, ANIMAL ABUSE, UH, WHAT CONSTITUTES, UM, ILLEGAL HOARDING OF ANIMALS, WHAT CONSTITUTE WHAT PROCESS WE SHOULD USE IF ANIMALS ARE GONNA BE TAKEN FROM THEIR OWNERS.

AND, AND THOSE DISCUSSIONS BEGAN A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO.

UM, IN MAY OF 2022, THERE WAS A HEARING, AND DURING THAT TIME WE REALIZED THAT RATHER THAN USE THE STATE PROCESS FOR A SEIZURE HEARING, WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE OUR OWN PROCESSES HERE FOR THE, UH, CITY OF CHANDLER AND THE COURT.

SO THE COURT WAS ALSO VERY INVOLVED IN, UH, MANY OF THESE CHANGES YOU'RE, UH, CONSIDERING TONIGHT.

UM, SO IN FEBRUARY, 2023, WE ADDED MORE REVISIONS AS WE LEARNED MORE, UM, AND DEFINED WHICH OFFENSES, UM, WOULD CONSTITUTE ENOUGH FOR POLICE OFFICERS TO SEIZE AND IMPOUND ANIMALS THAT WERE SUBJECTED TO CRUEL OR NEGLECTFUL, UM, CARE.

SO WE CONTINUED TO CIRCULATE THOSE, UM, REVISIONS AND FINE TUNE.

AND IN AUGUST OF THIS YEAR, WE PROVIDED THAT DRAFT ORDINANCE TO CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE FOR AN INITIAL REVIEW.

SO AS FAR AS OUTREACH, OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE A NUMBER OF INTERESTED ORGANIZATIONS AND STAFF DID SEND OUT THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO A NUMBER OF ORGANIZATIONS, UM, SOME OF WHICH PROVIDED COMMENTS, SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS WERE INCORPORATED WHERE APPROPRIATE.

ALSO, THE ORDINANCE WAS POSTED ON THE CITY WEBSITE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, AND WE, THE CITY DID RECEIVE A NUMBER OF COMMENTS.

THOSE WERE REVIEWED AND AGAIN, WHERE APPROPRIATE COMMENTS WERE, UH, THEY'D ALREADY BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE DRAFT OR WERE INCORPORATED INTO THE DRAFT.

WE DID HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING AS WELL.

AND THAT WAS IN SEPTEMBER, WAS IT SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, I APOLOGIZE.

SEPTEMBER.

AND, AND WE DID, UM, PRESENT THIS TO A SUBCOMMITTEE AND GOT DIRECTION FROM THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

THOSE DIRECTIONS WERE ALSO INCORPORATED INTO THE DRAFT.

SO THE REASON WE WANTED TO CONSIDER CHANGES IS REALLY, UM, CHAPTER 14 DOES HAVE OUTDATED LANGUAGE.

IT WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED BACK IN THE 1970S.

UM, IT HAD NOT BEEN UPDATED A LOT, UM, EXCEPT FOR VERY SPECIFIC SMALL CHANGES.

AND IT DIDN'T PROVIDE A BROAD ENOUGH DEFINITION OF ANIMAL CRUELTY.

UM, IT DID NOT ADEQUATELY ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF ANIMAL SEAS FOR SAFEKEEPING PURPOSES IN NON CRUELTY CASES, UM, WHERE WE MAY FIND A DOG ABANDONED OR RUNNING THE STREETS, UM, IT DOES NOT PROVIDE ADEQUATE REGULATIONS RELATING TO THE HOARDING OF ANIMALS IN UNSAFE OR UNSANITARY CONDITIONS.

SO THIS DRAFT BEFORE YOU TODAY PROVIDES DIRECTION ON WHAT IS UNLAWFUL IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES.

AND AGAIN, THE POST SEIZURE HEARINGS WERE BASED ON STATE LAW, WHICH REALLY DID NOT CONFORM TO OUR CURRENT, UM, MUNICIPAL COURT PRACTICES.

SO WE PUT A PROCESS IN PLACE THAT THE COURT IS MORE COMFORTABLE FOLLOWING IN THE CASE, IN THE, UM, EVENT, WE SEIZE ANIMALS AND WE HAVE A HEARING, UM, WITH THE PROPERTY OR THE ANIMAL OWNER TO DETERMINE IF THOSE ANIMALS NEED TO BE TAKEN PERMANENTLY OR RETURNED, TURNED TO THE OWNER.

AND WE THINK THIS ADEQUATELY ADDRESSES THAT PROCESS NOW.

SO WHAT IS THE CITY'S ROLE WHEN AN ANIMAL IS SEIZED? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, A POLICE OFFICER, UM, WILL PROVIDE NOTICE TO THE OWNER OF THE, THE SEIZURE.

UH, WE WORK CLOSELY WITH A CONTRACTED PARTNER, THE HUMANE SOCIETY, WHO PROVIDES TRANSPORTATION, HOUSING, AND CARE FOR THE ANIMALS, AS WELL AS, UM, PROVIDES HELP FOR US TO DETERMINE IS THIS A HEALTHY ANIMAL? IS IT BEING PROVIDED APPROPRIATE CARE? AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS.

THE OFFICER THEN FILES PROOF OF SERVICE WITH THE COURT, AND THEN THE OWNER OF THE ANIMAL HAS THE RIGHT TO CONTEST THE SEIZURE THROUGH A HEARING PROCESS IN THE CHANDLER MUNICIPAL COURT IF THEY, THEY SO CHOOSE TO DO SO.

BUT WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE ABOUT THESE CASES IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS OBLIGATED TO COMPLY WITH THE CONSTITUTION AND WITH THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF ARIZONA.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS TO ESTABLISH PROBABLE CAUSE, UM, THAT GOES THROUGH AN INVESTIGATION.

THERE IS NO RIGHT TO GO ONTO PEOPLE'S PROPERTY UNLESS WE HAVE A WARRANT OR EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES JUSTIFYING THAT TYPE OF RESPONSE.

UM, THIS, THE DRAFT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT DOES NOT CHANGE ANY OF THAT.

THOSE PROCESSES STILL HAVE TO BE, UH, FOLLOWED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

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AND THEN AT THAT TIME, THAT GIVES THE OFFICER MAYBE THE RIGHT TO GO ON THE PROPERTY AND EVALUATE THE SITUATION AND DETERMINE IF REMOVAL OF THE ANIMALS IS APPROPRIATE AND NECESSARY FOR THEIR SAFETY.

UM, AND OBVIOUSLY AN OWNER CAN ALWAYS CONSENT TO SEARCH.

UM, A LOT OF TIMES WE WILL TALK TO AN OWNER.

A POLICE WILL TALK TO AN OWNER TO SAY, HEY, WE'VE HEARD SOME COMPLAINTS.

CAN WE COME IN? THE OWNER HAS THE RIGHT TO SAY NO, AND THE OWNER HAS THE RIGHT TO SAY YES.

AND DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT MAY, UM, HELP US FIND MORE PROBABLE CAUSE OR MAY SHOW US THAT THERE REALLY IS NOT A CASE THAT TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT.

SO, OKAY.

UNDER THIS, UM, WE HAVE POTENTIAL CHARGES FOR DIFFERENT FORMS OF ABUSE, COMMON CASES OF ANIMAL CRUELTY, UM, OR DESIGNATED CLASS ONE MISDEMEANORS, WHICH IS A CRIME THAT IS PROSECUTED IN OUR CITY COURT.

IT IS A CRIME THAT'S PUNISHABLE BY UP TO SIX MONTHS IN JAIL, A $2,500 FINE AND THREE YEARS PROBATION.

UM, MORE SERIOUS CASES OF ANIMAL NEGLECT AND CRUELTY CAN RISE TO THE LEVEL OF CLASS SIX OR CLASSIFIED FELONIES.

THOSE ARE DEFINED BY THE ARIZONA STATE LAWS.

UH, WE ON THE LOCAL LEVEL DO NOT GET TO DEFINE FELONIES.

THAT IS A PURVIEW OF OUR STATE LEGISLATURE.

AND THOSE CASES ARE PROSECUTED BY THE MARICOPA COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THROUGH THE, THE SUPERIOR COURT.

SO AS PART OF OUR DUE DILIGENCE IN WORKING ON THESE REVISIONS, WE DID REVIEW OTHER CITY'S CODES.

UM, THERE WE FOUND TWO CODES THAT HAVE DEDICATED ANIMAL HOARDING ORDINANCES, AND BOTH OF THEM SET A MINIMUM T THRESHOLD, EXCUSE ME, OF 10 OR MORE ANIMALS.

AND THAT'S MORAN AND PHOENIX.

OTHER CITIES HAVE SIMILAR, UH, REGULATIONS REGULATING HOW ANIMALS SHOULD BE KEPT IN SAFE AND SANITARY CONDITIONS, BUT THEY DON'T GO TO NUMBER OF ANIMALS.

AND THAT'S SCOTTSDALE, GOODYEAR, PEORIA AND FLAGSTAFF.

AND THEN, UM, WE LOOKED AT OTHER CODES REGARDING SEIZURE OF ANIMALS IN, UM, CASES ASSOCIATED WITH HOARDING AND LOOKED AT THOSE PROVISIONS.

AND THAT WOULD BE GILBERT GLENDALE, SURPRISE, TEMPE IN TUCSON.

SO THE CODE REVISIONS BEFORE U TWO KNIGHT DO DEFINE WHAT HOARDING IS CONSIDERED.

IF SOMEBODY VIOLATES LAW BY HOARDING ANIMALS, IT IS NOT BASED ON A NUMBER OF ANIMALS.

IT'S BASED ON CIRCUMSTANCES DO, IS THERE ADEQUATE ROOM FOR THE ANIMAL TO MOVE AROUND TO, TO BE ABLE TO, UM, HAVE ADEQUATE FOOD, ADEQUATE SHELTER, WATER, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

THOSE ARE MANY FACTORS THAT WILL BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT IF WE INVESTIGATE A CASE OF ANIMAL HOARDING.

BUT IT WON'T BE BASED ON A NUMBER.

SO AGAIN, THE CHANGES MORE CLEARLY DEFINE ANIMAL CRUELTY TO INCLUDE SPECIFIC SITUATIONS LIKE FAILING TO PROVIDE MEDICAL ATTENTION NECESSARY TO PREVENT UNREASONABLE SUFFERING.

UM, AND, AND THAT MEDICAL ATTENTION EXTENDS TO MEDICAL TREATMENT, MEDICAL DEVICES THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR THE ANIMALS.

UH, THAT WAS A CONCERN RAISED AT THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

AND WE BROADEN THAT EX THAT DEFINITION, UM, INTENTIONALLY LEAVING AN ANIMAL UN UNATTENDED IN A MOTOR VEHICLE, ALLOWING ANY AN ANIMAL TO INTERFERE, KILL, OR CAUSE PHYSICAL INJURY TO A SERVICE DOG.

AND THEN WE ADDED THE SECTION ON ANIMAL HOARDING.

AND AGAIN, THAT LOOKS TO WHAT ARE THE CIRCUMSTANCES THOSE ANIMALS ARE BEING KEPT IN? UM, ARE THEY ABANDONED? IS IT UNSAFE, OVERCROWDED, OTHER INHUMANE CONDITIONS? ARE THEY GETTING ADEQUATE CARE AND TREATMENT? UM, ARE THEY GETTING ADEQUATE WATER AND NECESSARY FOOD? WE ADDED LANGUAGE ON A SECTION ON UNLAWFUL RESTRAINT OF DOG TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE ROOM TO WALK AROUND, THAT THE COLOR'S PROPERLY FITTED, THAT THEY'RE NOT IN UNSAFE OR UNSANITARY CONDITIONS.

UM, THEY'RE NOT IN A SITUATION THAT WILL CAUSE INJURY TO THE DOG, AND THEY HAVE ADEQUATE ACCESS TO FOOD, WATER, SHADE, AND SHELTER.

WE ALSO PUT IN PROVISIONS REGARDING, UM, EXCESSIVE HEAT.

LEAVING AN ANIMAL OUT IN THE SUN IN THE SUMMERTIME IN ARIZONA CAN RESULT IN ANIMAL CRUELTY CHARGES BECAUSE WE HAVE EXCESSIVE HEAT IN THE SUMMER.

AND AN ANIMAL OUTSIDE WITHOUT PROPER SHELTER IN A HUNDRED DEGREE WEATHER CAN BE VERY HARMFUL AND DAMAGING.

UM, AND THEN WE UPDATED THE LANGUAGE ON THE AUTHORITY TO SEIZE AND IMPOUND ANIMALS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO CRUEL SITUATIONS.

AND AGAIN, WE LOOK AT WHETHER THE OFFICER HAS REASONABLE GROUNDS TO BELIEVE THAT PROMPT ACTION IS NECESSARY, UM, OR REQUIRED TO PROTECT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF AN ANIMAL

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SO AS I SAID, UM, WE WENT THROUGH THE COMMUNITY SAFETY SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, TOOK FEEDBACK IN THAT SITUATION, POSTED THE ORDINANCE, TOOK FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY.

UM, TONIGHT IS THE INTRODUCTION.

UM, AND IF THE COUNCIL IS IN AGREEMENT, WE'LL BRING THIS BACK IN DECEMBER FOR FINAL ADOPTION.

AND THEN, UM, ORDINANCES GO INTO EFFECT 30 DAYS AFTER ADOPTION.

SO THIS ORDINANCE WOULD BE EFFECTIVE IN JANUARY.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS COUNSEL MAY HAVE.

YEAH.

AND COUNSEL, WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD THAT AFTER WE'RE DONE, UH, TALKING, WE'LL INVITE THE SPEAKER UP RELATED TO THIS ONE ITEM, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS RELATED TO THIS COUNCIL MEMBER? HARRIS.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

I APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, I SERVED ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO REALLY STRENGTHEN THE CODE.

I'M VERY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT WE HAD DID WITH WITH THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, ANIMAL CRUELTY IS A, IS A, IS A PAINFUL THING TO TO KNOW.

I HAVE TWO BEAUTIFUL YORKIES AND, UM, YOU KNOW, TO KNOW THAT PEOPLE WOULDN'T TAKE CARE OF THEIR PRECIOUS ANIMAL.

I I HAVE NO CLUE WHY, BUT I'M KIND OF GLAD THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING IT.

AND, AND THANK YOU KELLY, FOR BRINGING THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES BASED ON THE RESEARCH THAT'S BEEN DONE, COMPARING IT TO OTHER CITIES AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

UM, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT, UM, STEP FORWARD TO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE STRENGTHENING OUR LAWS AS WE ARE MOVING FORWARD.

UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED JUST TO, NUMBER ONE IS THAT ADDRESSING THIS, THE ANIMAL CRUELTY.

UH, I AM, YOU KNOW, I'M DEFINITELY IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE ORDINANCE, BUT ALSO JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE DO OUR BASIC AMENITIES, UH, FOR OUR DOGS.

YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DOING NOW.

UM, WE'RE ADDRESSING WHAT OUR DOG PARKS LOOK LIKE.

ALSO MAKING SURE THAT OUR, OUR ANIMALS HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING.

MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO SAFE AND CLEAN WATER AREAS IN PARKS FOR OUR ANIMALS.

WHO'S, WHO IS PLAYING AROUND IN PARK, MAKE SURE YOU LEASE YOUR DOG WHEN IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE LEASED.

UH, AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

AND THEN ALSO WE'RE INVESTING IN THE DOG PARTS AS AN ESSENTIAL PART OF CARING FOR THE WELFARE OF OUR ANIMALS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND JUST THESE LAST FEW THINGS, OUR RECENT UPCOMING DOG PARK IMPROVEMENTS, UM, WILL HELP WITH NEW WATER FOUNTAINS, UM, ORDER, WHICH WILL HAPPEN, WHICH WILL BE RECEDED IN TURFED IN THE SUMMER OF 2024.

THAT'S ECSO VISTA PARK.

UM, ALSO AT SENECA, WE'RE REPLACING THE ENTRY GATE WHERE NEW WATER FOUNTAINS WILL BE ORDERED AND WILL RECEDED.

AND THEN ALSO JUST MAKING SURE THAT OUR ANIMAL, NOT JUST ARE WE ADDRESSING THIS PART, BUT I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING THE PARK TO MAKING SURE THAT WHEN MY BABIES GO TO THE PARK, THEY HAVE A NICE, UH, WATER, UM, FOUNTAIN IN A NICE CLEAN AREA FOR THEM TO HAVE A GOOD TIME.

SO, SO I'M GLAD AS A COUNCIL WE'RE ADDRESSING THIS, AND ALSO WE'RE ADDRESSING IT BY MAKING SURE WE'RE IMPROVING THE AMENITIES AROUND THE CITY WITH OUR ANIMAL PARK.

SO I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE DOING THAT TOGETHER, AND I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I, I SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE AND, UM, I SUPPORTED MOVING FORWARD.

THANKS, MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTION? COUNCIL MEMBER? MAYOR ELLIS.

QUESTION.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

THE QUESTION THAT A COUPLE OF, UM, OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE IS THE FACT THAT WE DON'T OWN A SHELTER WHERE WE CAN PUT OUR DOGS IN WHEN WE CAPTURE THESE DOGS WHO WE, UH, PARTNER WITH TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT THEIR WELFARE IS IMPORTANT TO US.

SECOND QUESTION.

GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THAT ONE FIRST AND THEN I'LL ASK YOU THE NEXT ONE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS, IF I MAY, UM, WE CONTRACT WITH THE ARIZONA HUMANE SOCIETY, UM, TO HELP US WHEN WE HAVE THOSE ANIMALS WHERE THEY WILL COME TRANSPORT AND PROVIDE CARE, HOLD THEM THROUGH THE, THE COURT PROCEEDINGS IF, IF NECESSARY, AND WE PAY FOR THOSE SERVICES WITH THE HUMANE SOCIETY.

UM, SOMETIMES THESE ANIMALS END UP AT MARICOPA COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER, DEPENDING ON HOW THEY'RE PICKED UP.

BUT SPECIFICALLY, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WORKS CLOSELY WITH HUMANE SOCIETY.

SECOND QUESTION IS THAT WE DON'T ALSO HAVE, UM, DOG CATCHERS.

AND SO WHEN SOMEONE CALLED THE POLICE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPEN, HOW DOES THAT GET MANAGED? UH, THROUGH THE POLICE AND THEN ALSO THROUGH THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE TO COME AND PICK UP THOSE DOGS AND, AND DO EVERYTHING.

LET'S SAY SOMEONE, UM, MAKE A PHONE CALL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT BECAUSE THEY FOUND DOGS, UH, ON THEIR DOORSTEP OR IN THEIR BACKYARD.

WHAT IS THE PROCEDURE AND HOW DO THEY ADDRESS THAT? IF I MAY, MAYOR, UM, COUNCIL

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MARICOPA COUNTY ANIMAL CONTROL HAS JURISDICTION OVER THE, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, AND THEY ARE AVAILABLE.

UM, IF, IF THEY ARE HAVE TIME, IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE, I SHOULD SAY THEY USUALLY ARE, THEY CAN COME OUT.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE SOME VERY, UM, PASSIONATE OFFICERS IN IN OUR POLICE FORCE WHO WILL OFTEN TAKE THE DOGS AND HOLD THEM TEMPORARILY UNTIL THEY CAN GET WITH THE HUMANE SOCIETY.

LAST QUESTION.

UM, OH, DO WE HAVE SOME NONPROFITS HERE OR PEOPLE THAT HAVE BOOTS ON THE GROUND THAT ARE DOING THIS KINDA WORK THAT WE PARTNER WITH? OR IS IT ALWAYS THE HUMAN SOCIETY OR OTHER BIG ORGANIZATION LIKE SUCH THAT YOU MENTIONED? UM, IF I MAY, UM, WE HAVE A CONTRACT DIRECTLY WITH THE HUMANE SOCIETY.

UM, I, AS THE LAW DEPARTMENT, THAT'S WHO WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S OTHER PARTNERS THAT WE WORK WITH, BUT WE WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE HUMANE SOCIETY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I HEARD VICE MAYOR, UH, YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? VICE MAYOR? YES.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, ELLIS ANSWERED, UH, GOT MY FIRST ANSWER, BUT, UM, WHAT I DO, UH, AND I APPRECIATE STAFF AND COUNCIL'S WORK ON THIS, AND I KNOW WE UPDATE DOWN CRUELTY AND HOARDING, UH, BUT THE, THERE ARE, THERE IS SOME SECTIONS.

IT'S 14 DASH EIGHT AND 12, AND A COUPLE OTHER ONES THAT HAVE AMBIGUOUS LANGUAGE.

AND AS THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID EARLIER, THESE, SOME OF THESE THINGS GO BACK TO 1990.

I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, ASK STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE AND CLEAN THAT LANGUAGE UP AS WELL.

NOT, NOT, I DON'T WANNA HOLD THIS ONE UP, UH, THAT'S FOR SURE.

WE'LL, WE'LL I'M FOR THIS TONIGHT, BUT THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT, UH, WE WANNA TAKE A LOOK AT.

SO I'D ASK DAN TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE REST OF THAT SECTION 14 AND CLEAN UP SOME OF THE LANGUAGE IN THERE.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, AND I AGREE WITH, UH, VICE MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO CERTAINLY MOVE AHEAD WITH THIS, BUT I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO CLEAN UP ANYTHING ELSE.

AND IF THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO ADD IN THE, IN THE NEAR FUTURE, UH, THE BEAUTY OF OUR COUNCIL IS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO, TO MEET, UH, AND MEET FREQUENTLY TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS ANY FUTURE CHARTER AMENDMENTS NECESSARY.

SO, GO AHEAD.

IF I COULD ADD ONE, CLARIFYING.

I DO HAVE A TEAM OUT HERE, UM, HELPING ME, UM, AFTER HOURS, WE DO HAVE AN EMERGENCY ANIMAL CLINIC THAT'S ALSO AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE HELP WITH, UM, TREATMENT AND CARE OF THESE ANIMALS.

OKAY.

MM-HMM.

, AND, AND AGAIN, I, I GUESS THERE'S THIS, THIS IN YOUR MIND AND OUR POLICE MIND GIVES US THE ABILITY TO, TO ADDRESS CRUELTY HOARDING AND, AND MEDIATE SITUATIONS IN A, IN A PROMPT RESPONSE.

UH, AGAIN, THERE'S ALWAYS MORE, ALWAYS LESS THAT CAN BE DONE, BUT THIS IS A, A PLACE THAT WILL GIVE US SOME MORE TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS HOARDING AND CRUELTY FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE AND, UH, TO THE BEST THAT WE CAN AT THIS POINT.

FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, CITY ATTORNEY, UH, MAYOR, UM, YES.

AND WE HAVE WORKED, AS YOU KNOW, UH, THE PROSECUTION, UH, IS, UH, IN THE LAW DEPARTMENT AND WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH POLICE, PROSECUTION AND COURTS WHO ARE THE THREE DEPARTMENTS THAT'LL BE MOSTLY INVOLVED IN THESE TYPE OF SITUATIONS.

AND ALL THREE OF US ARE VERY COMFORTABLE THAT THIS PROVIDES US, UM, A GREAT SET OF TOOLS TO USE IN THESE TYPE OF CASES.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE, UM, A LEGAL ADVISOR THAT WORKS IN THE LAW DEPARTMENT.

IAN IS IN THE AUDIENCE AS WELL AS OUR CITY PROSECUTOR, ELIZABETH, UM, WHO ARE AVAILABLE 24 7 TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE LEGAL GUIDANCE WHEN THEY, THEY ENCOUNTER THESE SORT OF SITUATIONS.

AND MAYOR, IF I CAN TAKE A PERSONAL POINT OF PRIVILEGE, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE HOLIDAY COMING UP, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, IAN WHITE, OUR LEGAL ADVISOR WORKS IN THE LAW DEPARTMENT.

HE IS ALSO IN THE ARMY RESERVE AND HAS RECENTLY BEEN PROMOTED TO COLONEL.

COLONEL.

OH, CONGRATULATIONS.

THAT'S GREAT.

UM, BOY, I HAD A QUESTION.

I LOST IT.

I'M SO SORRY.

I'M CELEBRATING IN THE MOMENT.

IT'LL COME BACK TO ME.

UH, COUNCILMAN STEWART? OH, ANGEL, I'M SORRY.

COUNCIL MEMBER TITA.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

UM, KELLY, OBVIOUSLY WE WANNA GET THESE CHANGES IN ORDER AND CORRECT AND IN LINE WITH EVERYTHING.

AND A LOT OF IT, YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF OUTREACH AND I JUST KIND OF WANNA RE-GO THROUGH THAT OUTREACH THAT WE DID BECAUSE WE OBVIOUSLY WANT INPUT FROM OUR ANIMAL COMMUNITIES AND OUR RESIDENTS, UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST FROM THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE REACH OUT TO, WHETHER IT'S THE AGENCIES THAT WE WORK OUT, WORK WITH, OR, UM, COLLABORATE WITH.

HOW MANY OF THEM GAVE LIKE A THUMBS UP THAT THESE CHANGES ARE OKAY OR CHECKED OFF ON THAT? UM, I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER.

MANY OF THEM GAVE US THE, I THINK PRETTY MUCH

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SOME WOULD LIKE ADDITIONAL CHANGES.

UM, SOMEONE TO GO FURTHER THAT, QUITE FRANKLY, FROM AN ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE, WE WEREN'T QUITE COMFORTABLE DOING THAT.

BUT I THINK TALKING TO MOST COMMUNITY, UM, THIS IS A GOOD STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY IN THESE TYPE OF THINGS, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ALWAYS GO AS FAR AS EVERYBODY WANTS TO GO.

GOTCHA.

YOU.

AND THEN AS FAR AS OUR PUBLIC OUTREACH, THAT PERIOD, HOW LONG WAS THAT OPEN AND HOW DID WE GET THAT INFORMATION OUTSIDE? UM, THE ORDINANCE WAS POSTED ON THE WEBSITE RIGHT AFTER THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON OCTOBER 23RD.

AND IT'S BEEN OPEN AND YOU HAVE COMMENTS THAT CAME IN, I THINK IS EVEN TODAY.

AND, UM, AGAIN, THOSE COMMENTS WERE REVIEWED BY OUR OFFICE, BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WHERE WE FELT THEY SHOULD, THEY WERE GOOD COMMENTS THAT COULD BE INCORPORATED.

THEY WERE GOT YOU TO GET THAT INPUT FROM, FROM EVERYONE.

UM, ONE THING, AS YOU BROUGHT UP THE SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, WHICH I WAS PART OF, WE DID, UM, BRING IN SOME OR SUGGESTED SOME LANGUAGE REGARDING SPECIAL NEEDS ANIMALS, WHETHER IT'S EQUIPMENT, TOOLS OR SOMETHING AS FAR AS THAT BEING IN THE REALM OF CRUELTY.

ARE WE ADDRESSING THAT IN THIS PROPOSED CHANGES? WE, WE DID, IF I MAY, MAYOR, WE DID, UM, WE DIDN'T DEFINE IT SPECIFICALLY AS SPECIAL NEEDS EQUIPMENT.

WHAT WE SAID IS THEY NEED THE APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF MEDICAL CARE AND TREATMENT TO AVOID UNNECESSARY SUFFERING.

SO IF AN AN ANIMAL NEEDS A SPECIAL, UH, PIECE OF EQUIPMENT SO THAT THEY'RE NOT HURTING THEMSELVES MORE, THAT WOULD FALL UNDER THAT AND COULD BE PROSECUTED UNDER THAT IF SOMEBODY HAD A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT BUT WASN'T USING IT FOR THEIR ANIMAL.

GOT YOU.

SO THEY'LL BE UNDER THAT UMBRELLA.

YES.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS, MAYOR.

GREAT.

I REMEMBERED MY QUESTION.

OH, SO, AND THEN I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART NEXT.

UM, SO IN TALKING WITH NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, I, I KNOW WE'VE ALSO, AND WITH LOOKING AT COMMENTS, WE'VE RECEIVED COMMENTS RELATED TO CHICKENS AND TRYING AND DESIRING TO FOLD THEM IN.

WE HAD A, A POSSIBLE RUNAWAY SLOTH IN OUR STREETS.

WE HAD BACKYARD TURKEYS, WE'VE HAD, SO OTHER FORMS OF ANIMALS ARE, ARE RELATED TO, TO CRUELTY.

THEY'RE EITHER COVERED ELSEWHERE, UH, UNDER THEIR OWN SEPARATE, UH, AREAS ARE LIKE, LIKE, UH, A SLOTH IS AN EXOTIC ANIMAL AND THEREFORE NOT, IT'S NOT ALLOWED ANYWAY, MUCH LESS ALLOWED TO BE MISTREATED.

BUT, OR, OR DOES THIS GIVE US, ARE THERE ANY OTHER GAPS THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF THAT, UH, THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT RELATED TO OTHER SPECIES? UM, MAYOR, UM, UNDER THIS ORDINANCE, I BELIEVE THAT IF ANY ANIMAL IS BEING SUBJECTED TO CRUEL, CRUEL TREATMENT OR ABUSE, WE COULD PROSECUTE UNDER THIS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I, I, UM, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND, YOU KNOW, WAS LEAVING THE HOUSE TONIGHT AND I LOOKED AT MY LITTLE SCROUNGY DOG THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE COUCH.

SHE WAS ON THE COUCH.

UM, AND I REMIND MYSELF OF LIKE, WHAT INNOCENT BEINGS THESE ARE.

AND IT'S, IT'S UNFATHOMABLE TO ME THAT SOMEBODY COULD BE CRUEL TO AN ANIMAL.

AND SO I'M SO GRATEFUL THAT YOU PUT THIS TOGETHER SO QUICKLY IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE, WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THE, UM, ANIMAL RIGHTS GROUPS, YOU KNOW, THE HUMANE SOCIETY AS WELL AS OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, PULLING EVERYTHING TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN QUICKLY SO THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE THE TOOLS AND THE TRAINING TO BE ABLE TO HELP THOSE THAT CAN HELP THEMSELVES.

SO I'M JUST GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

AND I THINK, MOREOVER, AS IMPORTANT AS THIS IS THAT DURING THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, WE WERE MINDFUL OF THE FOURTH AMENDMENT, THE 14TH AMENDMENT, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DOING CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED OR CONSTITUTIONAL, UH, THINGS WHEN WE'RE PROTECTING THESE ANIMALS IN THIS ORDINANCE.

AND SO I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT, KELLY.

SO THANKS VERY MUCH.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, THOUGH, IS MORE COMMUNICATION ON THE EDUCATION PIECE, RIGHT? ALLOWING PEOPLE TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE AND WHY WE DID IT NECESSARILY.

AND THEN I WANNA THANK THE, THE PUBLIC.

UH, IT WOULD BE, UM, WE, WE CAN'T IGNORE THE, UM, OUTPOURING OF, UH, COMMENTS.

I'LL JUST CALL 'EM COMMENTS, UH, ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

BUT I'M GRATEFUL FOR IT BECAUSE IT, IT HELPED US SNAP TO ACTION AND BROUGHT SOMETHING TO LIGHT THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AWARE OF.

SO WE APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT KELLY, THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MAYOR.

THANKS, COUNCILMAN RES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I, I, I GUESS I SHOULD DITTLE WHAT YOU JUST SAID BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO KIND OF THANK EVERYONE THAT WORKED ON THIS PROJECT SO QUICKLY.

NOT ONLY THAT BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT EARLIER, BUT BECAUSE OF WHAT'S IN VIEW OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY, WE JUST REALLY PUSH THAT FORWARD AND PRETTY MUCH MAKE IT A PRIORITY TO ARRIVE WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT.

AND SO I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

SOME, UH, DOG OWNERS AND, UM, PET OWNERS ARE GONNA SLEEP BETTER BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT WE HAVE THIS RIGHT NOW TO PROTECT THEIR ANIMALS TO FROM CRUELTY.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UNLESS

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SO TERRY, YOU HAVE A, YOU'D STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

YOU HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS.

UH, THE GREEN LIGHT WILL BE ON ONCE YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT.

TRY TO WRAP UP WHEN THE RED COMES ON.

IF YOU COULD, UH, UH, WRAP UP, FINISH WRAPPING UP YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS.

I'M GETTING COMFORTABLE 'CAUSE I, I, I WANT MORE THAN THREE MINUTES, BUT I'M JUST KIDDING.

I, I KNOW , THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE THE TIME.

I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU GUYS DID, KELLY, UM, AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT YOU SPENT WITH ME ON THE PHONE.

UM, ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVISTS HAVE BEEN VERY CONCERNED WITH THE LAWS AND, AND BEEN SPEAKING TO THE NEED FOR BETTER LAWS.

HOWEVER, WE WERE NOT REALLY, UH, PREPARED AND AWARE OF THE CHANGES THAT WERE BEING MADE.

WE, UH, MYSELF HAD A LARGE, UH, EVENT, UM, PAC 9 1 1, WHO HAS THEIR BIGGEST FUNDRAISER OF THE YEAR IS, UM, HAPPENING THIS WEEKEND AND JUST HAVING A TURNAROUND TIME WHERE, WHERE WE GO THROUGH THESE KINDS OF ORDINANCES.

THEY'RE VERY DETAILED AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT ALL THE DEFINITIONS BE THERE.

UM, I WOULD LOVE TO ADDRESS A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED BY THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, BECAUSE SOME OF THE INFORMATION YOU GUYS MIGHT BE SHOCKED TO HEAR.

UM, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, MEDICAL EQUIPMENT NEEDS TO BE SPECIFIED BECAUSE LAW ENFORCEMENT WILL NOT KNOW THAT DRAGGING THEMSELVES IN URINE AND FECES WILL CAUSE URINE.

SKULL, SCALD, SORRY, , WHICH IS SIMILAR TO A SECOND DEGREE BURN.

IT'S VERY PAINFUL.

AND THE SANITARY, UM, HABITABLE DEFINITIONS THAT ARE LACKING IN THIS, UH, AMENDMENT, UM, ARE VERY ESSENTIAL.

UH, WE CANNOT OVERLOOK, WE CANNOT TAKE FOR GRANTED THAT POLICE OFFICERS UNDERSTAND.

AND YES, I DO GREATLY APPRECIATE OUR CONSTITUTION AND, AND THE FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS THAT IT AFFORDS US.

HOWEVER, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE EVER SEEN THE SHOW COPS AND THE POLICE TURN, PULL SOMEBODY OVER AND THEY SAY THEY, SIR, HAVE YOU BEEN DRINKING? I THINK I SMELL ALCOHOL.

OR PRIOR TO, YOU KNOW, UH, MARIJUANA BEING LEGALIZED WAS THAT, NOW THERE'S SOME OTHER DRUGS THAT THEY CAN SMELL.

SO, UH, THE, THE SENSE OF SMELL HAS LONG BEEN USED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT AS PROBABLE CAUSE FOR SEARCH, FULL SEARCH OF EVERY CREVICE AND CRANNY OF AN AUTOMOBILE.

IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE IN PLAIN SIGHT.

SO IF AN OFFICER IS SEARING 50 DOGS, JUST, JUST PICKING A NUMBER, , UH, LET'S SAY 10 DOGS, UH, BARKING.

THERE'S BEEN NEIGHBOR COMPLAINTS AND THERE'S AN ODOR THAT'S DETECTABLE FROM THE STREET, UM, THE LAW DOES REQUIRE REASONABLE.

AND I DID, LIKE, I YOU DO HAVE THE WORD A REASONABLE PERSON, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE, UM, WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE THAT IN OUR TRAINING OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.

REASONABLE PERSON WOULD DETECT THAT THERE'S, UM, THERE'S NEED.

UM, WE DO NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT ALL OF THE OTHER LAWS, AS YOU SAID.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, THERE'S JUST THREE MINUTES.

IT'S NOT GONNA GIVE ME ENOUGH TIME.

BUT CURRENTLY, RIGHT NOW IN CITY OF CHANDLER, STRAY DOGS THAT ARE IMPOUNDED CAN'T BE SOLD TO A MEDICAL RESEARCH FACILITY.

UH, THIS IS AN ANIMAL WELFARE NIGHTMARE.

WE NEED TO HOLD UP, WE NEED TO GET, UM, RESCUES.

THERE ARE OVER 600 RESCUES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THEY WEREN'T, THEY WEREN'T GIVEN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

UM, THANK YOU, TERRY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND TERRY, UH, I I THINK YOU'LL AGREE THAT IF, UH, AND CITY ATTORNEY THAT WE'RE, WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO, TO COME BACK AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT A PROPER TIME, BUT I'D LOVE MORE OF YOUR INPUT AT THAT.

I, I DO BELIEVE ON COUNCIL, THERE'S AN URGENCY TO AT LEAST GO THIS FAR.

AND THEN I APPRECIATE THAT.

CONTINUE.

AND I KNOW YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT.

AM I CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY.

UH, YEAH, JUST LET, LET US KNOW WHEN WE CAN PLAN ON COMING BACK.

WE, WE DEFINITELY, UH, DO WANT TO PROVIDE THOSE PROTECTIONS FOR THE ANIMALS.

UM, MAY I JUST CORRECT ONE, ONE THING.

IT'S BEEN KIND OF A, A BONE OF CONTENTION FOR ME, UH, THROUGHOUT OUR STATE.

UM, I'M THE FOUNDER OF ANIMAL RIGHTS CHAMPIONS OF ARIZONA.

I'M CURRENTLY WORKING WITH LEGISLATORS TO INCREASE THE BAR FOR THE, THE LAWS THAT PROTECT OUR ANIMALS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

UM, CURRENTLY THERE IS A TREND FOR IMPROVING THOSE PROTECTIONS.

AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, YES, YOU NEVER SEE A DOG WEAR A WATCH,

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THERE JUST AREN'T.

THANK YOU, TERRY.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS? YES.

UM, KELLY, UM, WHAT THIS ORDINANCE DOESN'T ADDRESS, DOES THE STATE LAW ADDRESS WHAT THIS ORDINANCE DOES NOT ADDRESSED? IF I MAY, MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, THERE ARE DIFFERENT LAWS FOR THE STATE.

SOME, AND THERE'S SOME OVERLAP.

UM, SO I CAN'T SAY THE STATE LAW ADDRESSES THINGS THIS ORDINANCE DOESN'T ADDRESS, BUT WE CAN'T DEFINE FELONIES.

UM, WE CAN'T, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THE STATE CAN DEFINE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THE ANIMAL SHELTER.

THE CITY DOES NOT RUN AN ANIMAL SHELTER.

UM, AND MARICOPA COUNTY DOES.

UM, SO I'M SURE THE, THE COUNCIL THAT ANIMALS ARE NOT BEING GIVEN AWAY OR SOLD FOR MEDICAL RESEARCH, UM, EITHER THROUGH MARICOPA OR THE CITY.

UM, THERE IS SOME ARCHAIC LAND LANGUAGE IN SOME OF OUR OLD OLDER PROVISIONS OF THE CODE.

AND THAT WAS, UM, DIRECTION FROM VICE MAYOR TO LOOK AT THAT AND UPDATE IT.

UM, BUT I THINK THAT THIS PROVIDES, THIS, THE CHANGES TO THIS ORDINANCE.

AND AGAIN, WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH COURTS, WITH PROSECUTION, WITH POLICE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT PROVIDES TOOLS THAT WE CAN, UH, USE TO ADDRESS SITUATIONS WHERE ANIMALS ARE NOT BEING TREATED APPROPRIATELY.

MAYOR, ONE LAST THING IS, UH, UM, KELLY, IS IT APPROPRIATE THAT, UM, PERHAPS, UH, I KNOW THAT ON THE CHANDLER AZ.GOV/ANIMALS, WE HAVE THE LINK TO, UM, TO THE STATE CHARTER, UM, TO THE STATE CONSTITUTION ABOUT ANIMAL CRUELTY AND HOW THAT'S DEFINED.

UH, WHEN WE PLACE THIS INTO MOVEMENT, YOU KNOW THAT WE WORK WITH OTHER GROUP, BUT IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN ALSO PLACE THE STATE STATUTE SOMEWHERE IN A LINK SOMEWHERE NEAR WHERE THIS IS GONNA BE PLACED ON OUR WEBSITE FOR FUTURE REFERENCES? FOR THOSE THAT MAY NEED TO KNOW, UH, MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS? YES, WE CAN MOST DEFINITELY LOOK AT DOING THAT.

AND THEN, THIS IS MY LAST QUESTION.

THIS PROBABLY GOES TO JOSH.

UM, JOSH, IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN ALSO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE GETTING APPROPRIATE TRAINING AS WE INTRODUCE THIS ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND ALL THESE DIFFERENT, UM, COMPLEXITIES OF WHAT THIS ACTUALLY MEANS AND THE IMPLICATIONS OF IT.

YEAH.

MR. MAYOR COUNCILLOR HARRIS, ANYTIME A, A NEW ORDINANCE IS PASSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL THAT WOULD AFFECT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S OPERATIONS.

WE GO THROUGH A TRAINING PROCESS WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS WELL VERSED IN THE LAW, AS WELL AS WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS SUCH AS THE HUMANE SOCIETY, SO THEY UNDERSTAND HOW THE NEW SYSTEM WILL WORK.

SO WE'LL DO THAT IN THIS CASE AS WELL.

OKAY.

AND IT'S CONTINUOUS, RIGHT? IT'S CONTINUOUS, THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER POSTED.

UM, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

MY COMMENT WAS RELATED TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS JUST SAID, AND I KNOW OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT PRIORITIZES TRAINING.

UM, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST REITERATE THAT THERE WAS A GOOD POINT ABOUT MAYBE THE MEDICAL DEVICES OR SPECIFIC HEALTH ISSUES RELATED TO ANIMALS.

AND I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT GETS ADDRESSED AS WELL AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

WELL, COUNSEL, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT, UH, WE, UH, THAT WE PASS.

UH, ITEM NUMBER 38, THE INTRODUCTION, TENTATIVE OF ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 49 92, AMEND CHAPTER 14 OF THE CITY CODE ANIMALS.

I'D SECOND THAT SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART, THIRD, FOURTH, FIFTH.

ALL RIGHT.

COUNCIL, PLEASE VOTE.

VICE MAYOR ORLANDO.

YES.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

THANK YOU.

COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

THANK YOU, SMATTERING OF APPLAUSE.

[12. Unscheduled Public Appearances]

UH, FIRST IS, UH, VICTOR HARDY, PASTOR VICTOR HARDY, ADDRESS 2220 EAST SPRUCE DRIVE, CHANDLER, ARIZONA 8 5 2 8 6.

AS PRESIDENT OF CHANDLER MINUTE OF ACTION, THERE ARE THINGS THAT I HAVE TO DO THAT ARE MOST JOYOUS ON FEBRUARY 22ND, 2024.

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AND THIS YEAR I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT OUR FIRST RESPONDER AWARD IS TO RETIRED CHIEF SEAN DUGGAN, BETTER KNOWN AS DOUGIE FRESH.

FROM NOW ON, IT'S IN HERE, IT'S IN THE BIBLE.

WE'D LIKE TO , WE'D LIKE TO THANK, UH, CHIEF DUGGAN FOR THE WORK HE'S DONE THE ENTIRE TIME THAT HE HAS BEEN WITH THE CITY OF CHANDLER.

WE THANK HIM FOR THE THINGS THAT HE'S DONE, AND THE MANY TIMES THAT HE HAS ANSWERED QUESTIONS PROTESTED WITH THOSE WHOM NEED TO BE PROTESTED AGAINST AND OBSERVING THE LAWS AND DOING THE THINGS THAT MUST BE DONE FOR THE CITY OF CHANDLER.

SO WE THANK HIM IN THIS WAY.

SO COME OUT AND CONGRATULATE CHIEF DUGGAN, UH, DOUGIE FRESH.

PASTOR HARDY, YOU SAID THAT.

OH, I, WE CAN'T INTERACT WITH YOU.

I'M SORRY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

OUR NEXT UNSCHEDULED PUBLIC APPEARANCE IS FROM N KIT SODA.

MR. SODA, PLEASE COME UP, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND AS I NEGLECTED TO SAY, UH, WE HEAR YOUR COMMENTS, ALTHOUGH WE CANNOT INTERACT WITH YOU AS THIS IS UNSCHEDULED PUBLIC APPEARANCE.

YOU HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES, SIR.

YEAH.

8 5 0 WEST ORIAL BAY.

UH, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND FIRST, UH, ON THE EVE OF VETERANS DAY, FIRSTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR SERVICE FOR MAKING THIS GREAT NATION WHAT IT IS TODAY, AND EXTEND THAT GRATITUDE TO THE COUNCIL ELDERS AS WELL AS THE STEWARDS OF THIS COMMUNITY INSTITUTION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

SO, UH, IN ADDITION, THAT WHAT THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DO DRIVES CIVIC PRIDE AND A SENSE OF CIVIC DUTY IN US.

SO THAT'S GREAT.

SO THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

AND THEN I CAME ACROSS WHAT OUR STATE IS CURRENTLY DOING WITH ADVANCED WATER PURIFICATION ROADMAP.

IT INSPIRES ME BECAUSE THEY ARE LOOKING AHEAD, THEY'RE LOOKING AHEAD TO THE STATE WATER SCARCITY AS A CRITICAL ISSUE THAT IS GONNA BE FACED BY FUTURE GENERATIONS.

SO I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF WHAT THE WORK IS GOING OVER THERE.

AND ESPECIALLY, I, I LIKE THE PRINCIPLE OF PROTECTING PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY EMPHASIZE ON.

AND SOME OF THE MENTIONS ABOUT CHEMICAL POLLUTIONS THAT THEY WANNA MONITOR, INVESTIGATE, AND TRACK IS AMAZING AND VERY BEAUTIFUL.

AND I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE WORK THAT IS GOING ON OVER THERE.

SO MY INTENT OVER HERE TO COME IS TO BASICALLY LEARN WHAT CHANDLER CITY'S VISION AND ROADMAP IS FOR WATER SECURITY, AND HOW DO WE AS CITIZENS ENGAGE AND CONTRIBUTE TO THAT BODY OF WORK.

AND HAVING SAID THAT, I WILL SHARE MY OWN PERSONAL MOTIVATION AND MY INITIAL CONTRIBUTION OR TO THAT BODY OF WORK, HAVING SOME BACKGROUND IN PUBLIC HEALTH AND BEING PART OF BEING PART, HAVING BEEN PART OF HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY.

OH, I LIKE SHEER TWO CHEMICALS BEING MONITORED, INVESTIGATED.

PLEASE DO THAT.

PLEASE DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S NEEDED THOUGH I DO UNDERSTAND THERE CAN BE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

THERE WILL BE DEFINITELY COSTS ASSOCIATED TO GOVERN SUCH A, SUCH A SYSTEM.

AND THAT IS WHERE I WANNA GIVE YOU HOPE.

THERE IS EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES, AI MAKING HUGE PROGRESS AND HUGE STRIDES THAT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO INNOVATE.

IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENCOURAGE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION FOR PUBLIC WORK USING THESE TECHNOLOGY TO EVEN BRING DOWN COST AND MAKE CHANDLER AN OUTSTANDING EXAMPLE FOR ALL OF US TO FOLLOW.

AND JUST TO ADD TO THAT, CHANDLER CITY TAKES PRIDE IN ITS ACQUISITION FROM AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION.

I'M REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

SO WHY CAN'T WE BE FIRST IN INNOVATING OUR COMPETITION, PHOENIX CITY RIGHT NOW, WITH A $1 BILLION PLAN THAT THEY'RE BUILDING FOR 2030, AND PUT SOME FUNDS TOWARDS THOSE KIND OF A, THOSE TOWARDS THOSE KIND OF INNOVATION THROUGH PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

CITY MANAGER, CAN YOU MAKE SURE THAT WE CONNECT AND, UH, MAYBE, UH, CROSS, UH, HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING, WHAT DO WE HOPE TO DO, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, WITH MR. SORA? ABSOLUTELY.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL.

[ Current Events 1. Mayor's Announcements 2. Council's Announcements 3. City Manager's Announcements]

I'VE GOT A FEW THINGS I'D LIKE TO SHARE.

UM, ON THIS SUNDAY, THE CHANDLER SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA IS PRESENTING CHEERS TO YOUTH AT THE CHANDLER CENTER OF THE ARTS

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FOR MORE INFORMATION, YOU CAN VISIT CHANDLER CENTER.ORG FOR DETAILS.

THIS EVENT INCLUDES MUSICAL PERFORMANCES, A WHIMSY OF MIDSUMMER, NIGHT STREAM, OVERTURE, AND PETER AND THE WOLF WITH A SPECIAL NARRATOR ME.

SO THAT'LL BE HAPPENING SUNDAY.

AND IT'S A, IT'S A TIMELESS STORY OF BRAVERY, INNOVATION, FRIENDSHIP, AND, AND, UM, TREATING A WOLF HUMANELY.

COME TO THINK OF IT IN THE CONTEXT TONIGHT.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT, UH, WE HAVE OUR CHANDLER CHUCK WAGON COOKOFF WITH RETURNING TO THE TUMBLEWEED RANCH AT TUMBLEWEED PARK ON NOVEMBER 11TH.

THIS STARTS AT NOON.

I THINK MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND OTHER CIVIC LEADERS WILL BE COOKOFF JUDGES A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.

SO YOU WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPERIENCE WESTERN HISTORY AS AUTHENTIC CHUCK.

WAGON TEAMS USE HISTORIC COOKING METHODS TO CREATE THE BEST FIVE COURSE MEALS FROM THE ORIGINAL FOOD TRUCKS.

AND IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, UH, PURCHASING, UH, A PLATE OF FOOD, YOU CAN DO THAT@VISITCHANDLERAZ.GOV SLASH EVENTS FOR TICKETS.

NEXT, OUR SECOND ANNUAL VETERANS CELEBRATION AT VETERANS OASIS PARK WILL BE PRESENTED BY VETERANS AND MILITARY AFFAIRS COMMISSIONERS, UH, COMMISSION ON NOVEMBER 11TH.

THE CELEBRATION STARTS AT 4:30 PM WITH A CONCERT IN THE PARK TO FOLLOW, JOINED BY SO AND COUNCIL, AS WE RECOGNIZE CHANDLER VETERANS FOR THEIR PRESENT AND PAST MILITARY SERVICE.

AND, UH, OUR SIMILARLY, THERE'S A CONCERT THAT WILL BE THERE.

BUT, UH, FOLLOWING UP AT OUR CENTER FOR THE ARTS, THE US ARMY JAZZ AMBASSADORS WILL HOST A FREE CONCERT ON VETERAN'S DAY AT 7:30 PM AT THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS.

AND THIS VIDEO, INTEGRATED PATRIOTIC CONCERT WILL CELEBRATE THE MILITARY SERVICE THROUGH MUSIC AND STORYTELLING.

I'VE TIMED IT.

WE CAN ATTEND BOTH EVENTS.

COUNSEL, IF YOU CARE TO JOIN ME ON THE SECOND ONE AS WELL.

SPEAKING OF TIMING AND EVENTS, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PARADE OF LIGHTS AND TUMBLEWEED TREE LIGHTING.

IT'S GONNA BE HAPPENING DECEMBER 2ND, BEGINNING AT 4:30 PM OUR CHANDLER HOLIDAY TRADITION WILL FEATURE PERFORMANCES A PARADE THROUGH DOWNTOWN AND MUCH ANTICIPATED LIGHTING OF THE TUMBLEWEED TREE.

AND WE ARE ALL BELIEVING, HOPING, AND PRAYING FOR NO RAIN CANCELLATIONS THIS YEAR.

AGAIN, YOU CAN FIND MORE INFORMATION ON THIS AT CHANDLER EASY DOT GOVS SLASH TUMBLEWEED TREE FOR DETAILS.

AND LASTLY FOR ME, I WANNA THANK, UH, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, COUNCIL AND OUR COMMUNITY FOR GIVING ME SO MANY REASONS TO BE THANKFUL AS WE CELEBRATE THANKSGIVING.