Sep 20, 2023 Planning & Zoning Meeting - 09/20/2023

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[ Call to Order/Roll Call]

FIRST ITEM IS A CALL ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

CHAIRMAN MANN.

HERE.

VICE CHAIR KOAL.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER MORGAN.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER QUINN? HERE.

COMMISSIONER VELAZQUEZ.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER BARLOW.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER LOPEZ.

HERE WE HAVE CORUM.

THANK YOU.

SO BEFORE THIS MEETING, WE HAD A

[ Consent Agenda Items listed on the Consent Agenda may be enacted by one motion and one vote. If a discussion is required by members of the Board or Commission, the item will be removed from the Consent Agenda for discussion and determination will be made if the item will be considered separately.]

UM, I DID, WE HAVE A LOT OF SPEAKER CARDS FOR ITEM NUMBER SIX.

SO THAT WILL BE HEARD AS A, UH, ACTION ITEM FOR TONIGHT AFTER WE GO THROUGH THE CONSENT AGENDA.

UM, THE FIRST, ACTUALLY THE FIRST ORDER NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE PEOPLE AWARE OF THAT.

COMMISSIONER MORGAN, YOU'RE GONNA LEAD US, PLEASE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, A NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU, SIR.

APPRECIATE THAT.

SO, ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, I DO HAVE TWO SPEAKER CARDS, AND WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS LET THE SPEAKERS TALK ON THAT ITEM, AND THEN IF THERE'S QUESTIONS FROM STAFF OR I MEAN QUESTIONS FROM THE, UH, COMMISSION, UH, IF WE NEED TO GO FURTHER AND POSSIBLY PULL IT FOR ACTION, WE'LL DO THAT.

BUT, SO I BELIEVE I ONLY HAVE TWO SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS.

AND, UM, FIRST ONE IS BRUCE, I BELIEVE IT'S WALLACH.

YEP.

THANK YOU.

IF YOU WANNA COME UP, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, SIR.

UM, TALKING ON THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU.

UH, MY NAME'S BRUCE WALLIG.

I'M AT 3 96 WEST DESERT BROOM DRIVE.

I'M IN AVALON, JUST WEST OF CALYPSO FOR THE CHANDLER FARMS. UM, JUST HERE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UM, WE APPRECIATE THE BUILDER'S WILLINGNESS TO LISTEN TO OUR FEEDBACK AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS THAT THEY HELD, UM, AND ESPECIALLY THE LOWERING UP FROM THE FOUR STORY HEIGHT DOWN TO THREE STORIES.

UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, WE DO HAVE A POTENTIAL FOR, UM, GUESSING AROUND ANOTHER THOUSAND RESIDENTS MOVING IN JUST NORTH OF ANOTHER A THOUSAND RESIDENT APARTMENT OF LIVE VENITA.

AND THERE IS THAT WALKING PATH THAT YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT IN THE DISC, UM, STUDY SESSION EARLIER THAT IS PART LIVE VENITA, PART, PORTELLO, PART AVALON.

THEY'RE ALL SEPARATELY MAINTAINED AND PAID FOR, FOR MAINTENANCE, UM, PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, VANDALISM.

WE, WE PAY FOR ALL THAT.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT WAS, IT HAD THE VISION IN THE MAYBE LATE NINETIES, EARLY TWO THOUSANDS TO BE A BIG GIANT RETAIL DISTRICT WITH RESTAURANTS AND WHATNOT.

CORRECT? YOU WERE PART OF THAT ORIGINAL PLAN.

UM, NONE, NONE OF THAT'S COME TO FRUITION.

AND NOW WE'RE JUST, WE HAVE APARTMENTS, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, AND NOW THE APPLICANT'S SECOND MASSIVE APARTMENT.

SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY SHARED, AND I AM ALSO ON THE H O A BOARD FOR AVALON.

I'M NOT HERE REPRESENTING THEM.

I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.

LIKE I'M, I'M STARTING TO SEE ALL THE EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR, WHETHER IT'S MAINTENANCE ON OUR LAWNS OR, YOU KNOW, 5,000 A MONTH OR PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

$4,000 NEW TARPS, $10,000.

AND IF, IF ALL THESE RESIDENTS HAVE ACCESS TO OUR AMENITIES THAT WE PAY FOR AND MAINTAIN, THEN IT SHOULD BE EQUAL SHARE.

OR WE SHOULD JUST PUT IT BACK TO A, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PRETTY UNIQUE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE'S NOTHING ELSE LIKE THIS THAT I'VE CAN, I DON'T KNOW, WAS TALKING TO ELISA ABOUT THIS EARLIER.

UM, IT'S, IT'S A VERY WEIRD SITUATION, .

SO, UM, THE BUILDER USING THE WALKWAY PATHS AS AMENITY, PARKS AND RECREATION, BUT EVERY AREA IS EITHER PORTELLO AVALON OR LIVE ANITA'S PRIVATE PROPERTY WITH NO SHARED MONETARY DUES.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT LIV ANITA'S APARTMENTS HAVE KEY FOBS SO THEY CAN TRESPASS, TECHNICALLY IT'S TRESPASSING RIGHT ON OUR H O A PROPERTIES OR COMMON AREAS, BUT WE CAN'T USE ANY OF THEIR AMENITIES LIKE EV CHARGERS, POOLS, DOG PARK, ET CETERA.

UM, SO WE'RE REQUESTING THAT I'VE GATHERED ABOUT 45 SIGNATURES FROM AVALON.

WE'RE REQUESTING THAT THE WALL BE CLOSED OFF WITH A PERMANENT SOLUTION AND HOWEVER THAT PROCESS LOOKS, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE CHANDLER FARMS BEING BUILT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A, A CITY COUNCIL ACTION FROM LIKE 2007 THAT CREATED THAT WALKING PATH.

SO WE'RE JUST WANTED TO GET THAT ON RECORD AND APPRECIATE EVERYBODY, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP.

ANY COMMENTS TO THE SPEAKER? OKAY, THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

NEXT SPEAKER

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AND HAVE THREE MINUTES.

UH, ROBERT STY, 31 20 SOUTH DAKOTA PLACE.

UH, I LIVE IN HAMILTON HEIGHTS.

BEEN A RESIDENT THERE FOR APPROXIMATELY 10 YEARS.

I WAS, I'M, I'M A FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE H O A.

UM, I'VE ALSO SERVED ON THE GENERAL PLAN, UH, ASSISTANT ADVISORY COMMITTEE HERE FOR THE CITY OF CHANDLER AND THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE BACK IN 2009.

I DO, UM, I DO OPPOSE THE DEVELOPMENT.

I, YOU KNOW, FOR A COUPLE REASONS.

UH, FIRST, THE DENSITY OF THE HOUSING.

UH, THE CURRENT PLAN SHOWS ABOUT 23 UNITS PER ACRE.

THAT'S ABOUT 20% HIGHER THAN WHAT, UH, LIVE ON NDA IS.

THERE ARE ABOUT 20 UNITS PER ACRE.

OTHER AVERAGES ARE RIGHT AROUND THAT 18 TO 20.

SO I THINK THE DENSITY IS A LITTLE TOO HIGH.

UM, THE AREA THERE CURRENTLY HAS TWO MAJOR MULTIFAMILY COMPLEXES THAT LIVE NDA AND THE CAMDEN CHANDLER APARTMENTS.

UH, SO WE'RE, WE'RE ALWAYS SEEING MAJOR DENSITY AND, AND MORE TRAFFIC.

I KNOW THE TRAFFIC STUDIES DO SHOW THAT THERE'S MINERAL IMPACTS, UH, NORTH AND SOUTH ON ARIZONA AVENUE AND EAST AND WEST ON QUEEN CREEK FROM A THROUGH POINT.

THAT'S OKAY.

BUT WHEN YOU START MAKING LEFT HAND TURNS FROM LIVE NDA OR, UH, THE CHANDLER FARMS PROPERTY, MAKE THAT LEFT.

SO YOU CAN GO NORTH ON ARIZONA AVENUE, IS GONNA BECOME VERY CONGESTED, ESPECIALLY WITH HAMILTON HEIGHTS, UH, SCHOOL.

SO I REQUEST ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC STUDIES ARE, ARE, UH, DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY INCIDENTS OR AT LEAST MINIMIZE THE, UH, THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC.

UH, HAMILTON HEIGHTS, THE MAIN ENTRANCES AND EXITS ARE ON QUEEN CREEK, UH, ROAD.

SO THE POTENTIAL BACKUP ON TRAFFIC COULD IMPACT OUR, UM, ENTRANCE AND EXIT INTO HAMILTON HEIGHTS.

SO, I, I AM OPPOSED, UM, ALTHOUGH I KNOW WE LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE YOU DON'T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT A LOT OF TIMES THINGS GO THROUGH.

SO I'M ALSO MAKING A FEW REQUESTS AND I, I, FIRST OF ALL, I DO WANT, UH, THANK MILL CREEK RESIDENTIAL.

BRENDAN RAY.

THEY'VE BEEN VERY, VERY GOOD ABOUT REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AT HAMILTON HEIGHTS AND LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNS.

SO I, I THANK THEM FOR THAT.

UM, FROM A, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACT, IF WE COULD PUT A DEDICATED RIGHT HAND TURN LANE GOING INTO THE NEW, UM, APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT MAY ALLEVIATE SOME, UH, TRAFFIC BACKUPS ALONG QUEEN, UH, QUEEN CREEK, UH, ROAD.

ALSO THE, UH, FROM A CONSTRUCTION STANDPOINT, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION WILL TAKE ABOUT TWO YEARS.

UH, WHEN I'M NOT STANDING UP HERE, I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF A DIVISION FOR A, A NATIONAL ENGINEERING FIRM.

I UNDERSTAND CONSTRUCTION, I UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO BEING A GOOD, GOOD NEIGHBOR.

UM, I WOULD ASK THAT THE, UH, GENERAL CONTRACTOR, MILL CREEK, UH, RESIDENTIAL, AT LEAST DO SOME, UH, PROACTIVE PLANNING WITH, WITH THE H O A SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND UTILITY TIE-INS WHEN TRAFFIC, UH, LANES ARE BEING CLOSED DOWN.

THINGS THAT JUST MAKE OUR LIVES A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT EASIER.

SO, AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERATION.

ANY QUESTION TO THE SPEAKER? JEFF? ONE QUESTION.

UH, IT MIGHT NOT BE FOR THE SPEAKER, BUT I THINK THERE WAS A DECELERATION LANE ON QUEEN CREEK ROAD INN.

CORRECT.

AND WE'LL ASK, I'LL ASK STAFF IN THAT ONE.

THAT'S GREAT.

SO, OKAY.

ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT TO STAFF.

UM, DO YOU WANNA ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THINGS? ONE, THE, THE DESAL LANE, LET'S START WITH THAT.

IS THERE A DESAL LANE ON THIS PROPERTY ON QUEEN CREEK OR ALYSSA WANTS TO ADDRESS THAT? UH, CHAIR HUON.

THERE IS, UM, CONTINUOUS DESAL LANES ALONG BOTH, UH, QUEEN CREEK AS WELL AS ARIZONA AVENUE THAT RUNS FROM THE, UM, FIRST PROPOSED NEW, UH, DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE INTO THE PROPERTY, UH, ALONG OR CLOSE TO THAT WEST PROPERTY LINE.

IT, IT'S A CONTINUOUS DESAL LINE CLEAN.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO THAT, THAT IS ADDRESSED IN TERMS OF THE TRAFFIC, IN TERMS OF THE TRAFFIC STUDIES.

COMMERCIAL WOULD GENERATE MORE, 50% MORE THAN THIS IS GONNA GENERATE, BUT HAVE, HAVE WE LOOKED AT IN TERMS OF, WITH, WITH OUR TRAFFIC STAFF IN TERMS OF, UM, ACCESS AND EGRESS AND INGRESS FOR THIS PROPERTY? YES, THEY HAVE REVIEWED, UM, NOT ONLY THE, UH, TRAFFIC, UH, UH, ANALYSIS, BUT ALSO, UM, THE PROPOSAL AS FAR AS, UM, THOSE PROPOSED LOCATIONS OF THOSE DRIVEWAYS.

AND THEY HAVE, UM, APPROVED AS, UH, SUBMITTED.

OKAY.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

I THINK THAT WOULD THEN THE THIRD THING IS, AND I GUESS, UM, I'M GONNA ASK THE APPLICANT THIS QUESTION.

SO THANK YOU ALYSSA.

MR. RAY, CAN YOU JUST ADDRESS, UM, A COUPLE THINGS.

ONE WAS THE, UM, THE COORDINATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO THAT WITH OTHER THINGS WHERE THERE'S A PHONE NUMBER SOMEBODY CAN CALL, AT LEAST KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WHEN, WHEN THE ROAD'S GETTING CUT

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CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT? YEAH.

CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, BRENDAN RAY IN 50 NORTH CENTRAL HERE ON BEHALF OF MILL CREEK RESIDENTIAL.

UM, YES, AS WE WERE VISITING IN THE BACK WITH, UH, MR. STY, WE DID, UH, HE DID, UH, RAISE THAT COMMENT TO US.

AND I WAS VISITING WITH A REPRESENTATIVE MILL CREEK, AND IT IS NOT A PROBLEM FOR US TO COORDINATE WITH THE HAMILTON HEIGHTS, H O A, LET THEM KNOW CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES, TIMING, AND WHEN THINGS ARE GONNA TAKE PLACE.

OKAY.

AND COULD YOU ALSO JUST QUICKLY, AND THIS ONE MAYBE HAVE TO GO TO COUNCIL, UM, THE, THE PATH, MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS PATH WAS DESIGNED, IMPROVED BY COUNCIL BACK IN OH 7 1 1 OF THE MANY, UH, ITERATIONS OF THE THING.

CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT AT ALL? I MEAN, YEAH, THROUGH THE CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, UH, AS YOU WERE BRIEFED, UM, IN YOUR STUDY SESSION.

THERE'S A LONG HISTORY OF THE PATH, UM, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE.

UM, WE UNDERSTAND, UM, THAT PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT THROUGHOUT DEVELOPMENTS, UH, EVEN REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE END USE MIGHT BE.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS PATH HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN, UM, IMPOSED.

I, I PROBABLY, I WOULD GUESS BY STIPULATION OTHER DEVELOPMENTS AS THEY HAVE COME ONLINE, INCLUDING LIVE ANITA, AND SO THE REST OF THIS PATH, UM, AND IF I NEEDED TO PULL UP A SLIDE, I COULD DO THAT.

BUT THE PATH, UM, IS RUNNING ALONG OUR WESTERN SIDE.

UH, WE, UH, IT'S NOT GATED, UH, AS IT RUNS THROUGH OUR PROPERTY.

UM, I BELIEVE, AS WAS DISCUSSED DURING THE STUDY SESSION, UM, THE GATES EXIST KIND OF ON ANITA'S PROPERTY, BOTH ON WHAT I'LL CALL THE NORTH, UH, EAST AND KIND OF SOUTHWEST AS YOU LOOK AT IT.

UM, AND HIS STAFF PREPARED.

AND LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET A SLIDE UP SO PEOPLE KIND OF KNOW WHERE I'M TALKING ABOUT.

BEAR WITH ME ONE MINUTE.

AND WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THAT, IS, IS YOUR ENTRANCE WAY DIFFERENT THAN AL VITA'S OR WHATEVER, LA VITA'S, WHATEVER IT'S CALLED? UM, 'CAUSE THEY DO HAVE A GATE.

THEY HAVE A GATE THERE.

I GUESS THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT, SO IS YOURS DIFFERENT THAN THEIRS? UH, CHAIR, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION? UM, HOPEFULLY YOU CAN, WE CAN SEE IT.

YEAH, WE GOT IT.

SEE THIS SLIDE? YEP.

SO, UM, UH, WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS THAT THE GREEN REPRESENTS THE PATH, BUT AT, UH, IF I CAN MAKE IT GO, UM, THIS IS, AND THAT'S A REALLY THIN RED LINE.

I'LL TRY TO MAKE IT SO EVERYONE CAN SEE IT.

THAT IS, UM, THE PATH CONTINUES NORTH UP TO QUEEN CREEK ROAD, BUT THERE IS NO GATE, UM, THAT WOULD PREVENT, UH, ANY ACCESS THROUGH THERE AS YOU GET TO THE SOUTH.

UM, THE ONLY GATE THAT IS ON THAT SOUTH SIDE, UM, IS ON THE LIVE SIDE.

UM, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY GATES.

NOW.

THERE IS A, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A PERIMETER FENCE ALONGSIDE OUR COMMUNITY, BUT, UH, THROUGH THIS POINT WE ARE NOT BLOCKING OFF ACCESS.

SO THE ONLY POTENTIAL RESTRICTIONS ON ACCESS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH LIV ANITA'S, UM, WHAT ALREADY EXISTS THERE TODAY.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? SO, JUST TO, TO CLARIFY, SO I MEAN, YOU'LL PUT, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU'RE GONNA PUT A A, A FENCE OR A PROPERTY LINE GATE ALONG THE TWO PROPERTY? YEP, EXACTLY RIGHT THERE.

OKAY.

THERE'S THE DUCK PART.

SO WHERE THAT WALKWAY FROM THE CIRCLE GOING, WHAT WOULD BE NORTHEAST, I GUESS YOU'RE NOT INTENDING JUST TO HAVE THAT AS AN OPEN ACCESS.

IT, IT, THAT'S THROUGH THE CHAIR.

UH, COMMISSIONER LOPEZ.

YES, IT IS INTENDED TO BE OPEN ACCESS.

OKAY.

UM, AS IT RELATES TO OUR SIDE.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, BRENDA, TO STAFF.

UH, KEVIN, WE SEEM TO HAVE SOME CONFLICTING THINGS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN ANSWER OR NOT, BUT THIS PATH THAT'S BEEN DONE IN PART CO OR PART OF THE, THE ORIGINAL P A D AND PDPS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WOULD IT BE BETTER FOR US IF WE MOVE THIS FORWARD TO LET COUNCIL YOU BETWEEN NOW AND COUNCIL, YOU GUYS FIGURE OUT WHETHER THAT IS REQUIRED BASED ON THAT ORDINANCE OR COULD BE CHANGED? YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA MAKE A BUNCH OF MOTIONS TONIGHT AND TAKE THE PATH OUT, TAKE THE PATH IN OR WHATEVER, IF THERE WAS ORDINANCES SET UP BACK WHEN THAT, THAT PATH WAS GONNA EXIST.

CHAIRMAN, UH, COMMISSIONERS, IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

UH, AND WE'VE LAST COUPLE WEEKS, I HONESTLY BEEN STARTING TO REALLY WRESTLE WITH, UH, IF THE, THE FINAL LEG OF IT ON THE SUBJECT SITE IS NOT COMPLETED.

UM, THE COMMISSION'S, UH, ACTION TONIGHT.

AND THEN ULTIMATELY COUNCIL'S ACTION WILL BE ONLY UPON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

UM, THAT ACTION DOESN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE TO GO ON A PRIVATE PROPERTY

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UM, SO, UH, IF COUNCIL ELECTS TO, UH, NOT CONTINUE THAT PATH AND NOT, NOT IN, NOT MOVE IT FORWARD, THERE'S STILL THAT, THAT LEG THAT'S ON LIVE ANITA, UH, ANITA'S PROPERTY THAT WE'LL NEED TO DEAL WITH, UM, SIMPLY MAKING IT GO AWAY.

UH, I DON'T KNOW.

UM, SINCE WE HAVE, SINCE COUNCIL STARTED WITH DOB, DOBSON CROSSING AND THEN AVALON AND KINDA KEPT, KEPT, OR KEPT GOING FORWARD, UM, WE HAVE APPROVED ZONING CASES WITH AN ATTACHED PRE TO UNPLANNED P D P THAT SHOWED AN OPEN KIND OF PUBLIC ACCESS WAY TO KEEP GETTING TO THE CORNER.

AND I, AND I RECOGNIZE TODAY THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH TWO SMALL COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, AND THAT'S ALL OF THIS PATH NETWORK IS TO GET TO LIKE 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL.

UH, BUT THERE ARE APPROVED DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT SHOW THIS, THAT I DON'T, I HAVEN'T REALLY, I HAVEN'T REALLY GOT IT TOTALLY FORMULATED IN MY HEAD OF HOW DO WE MAKE THAT GO AWAY SINCE IT WAS A PUBLIC PROCESS AND ULTIMATELY A PUBLIC BODY THAT ADOPTED THAT PLAN.

DOES IT HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH THAT PROCESS? IF, IF IT'S TO PULL IT ALL OUT AND TURN IT, REVERT IT BACK TO JUST SOLELY PRIVATE PROPERTIES? SO FOR TONIGHT'S PURPOSE, UH, UH, MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION A, AS COMMISSION SEATS FIT, UH, ON THE LEG THAT IS ON, UH, THE SUBJECT'S, SITE'S PROPERTY, UM, WHATEVER HAPPENS WITH THAT.

IF IT, IF THE, IF COUNCIL ULTIMATELY APPROVES IT BY MAKING IT GO AWAY, WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE WORK WITH, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND EVEN LIVE TO, TO, TO, TO FIX IT AND, AND RECTIFY THAT.

YEAH.

BUT I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER, UM, AT THE MOMENT.

OKAY.

AND, AND THE REASON I'M BRINGING THAT UP, I DON'T WANNA SIT HERE AND DELAY AND POSTPONE THIS THING FOR A MONTH SO THAT WE FIGURE OUT THAT LITTLE THING, BUT I THINK BETWEEN NOW AND COUNCIL, YOU GUYS CAN FIGURE OUT LIKE ALLIES, AND LIKE YOU SAID, THE PATH THAT'S ALREADY THERE IS NOT GOING AWAY.

IT'S THERE UNLESS THE HOAS WANNA DECIDE ON THEIR OWN.

BUT IF, IF THE ORDINANCE WAS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS WALKING PATH.

SO, UM, AND I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO COMMISSION AS WELL, BUT, UM, I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY BETTER OFF IF WE DECIDE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS TO LET COUNT YOU GUYS CAN WORK WITH, GET TO BEFORE IT GETS TO COUNCIL, FIGURE IT OUT AND THEN GO FROM THERE.

CHAIRMAN, PROBABLY THE BEST PATH FORWARD TONIGHT IS TO, AS A BODY, DECIDE WHETHER YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO COMPLETE THE FINAL LEG OF THIS, UH, KIND OF, I DON'T WANNA SAY REGIONAL, BUT KIND OF, SORT OF REGIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD PATH OR BECAUSE, UH, THE ANTICIPATION OF WHAT THAT PATH WAS LEADING TO HAS CHANGED SO DRASTICALLY.

IT'S NO LONGER NEEDED.

UM, THEREFORE DON'T COMPLETE IT.

THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST PATH FORWARD.

MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

UM, WE'VE GOT SOME MECHANICS BEHIND SCENES TO FIGURE OUT, UH, IF, IF WE'RE NOT GONNA COMPLETE IT AND WE'LL WORK THAT AFTERWARDS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS, UH, STAN? OKAY.

UM, TO THE AUDIENCE, UM, LET'S, LIKE, WE'RE GONNA DO ONE MOTION ON THE, UH, CONSENT ITEMS, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER TWO, CHANDLER FARMS. ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS THE OFFICE, UM, REZONING, THE USE PERMIT FOR DISTILLERY, THE USE PERMIT FOR GOOD TIME, CHARLIE'S, AND LIKE I SAID, WE'LL DO A FULL HEARING ON HUNT HIGHWAY CELL TOWER.

SO, UM, DOES ANYBODY WANNA MAKE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON ANY OF THOSE ITEMS IN THE AUDIENCE? OKAY.

SEEING NONE, WHAT'S THE COMMISSION'S PLEASURE? COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? I MOVE THE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT ITEMS, UH, AS MENTIONED.

WHAT'S THE EXCLUSIONARY ITEM? I'M SORRY, WHAT'S THE NUMBER OF THE EXCLUSIONARY? I DON'T HAVE THE AGENDA FOR IT'S ITEM.

SO CONSENT ITEMS ONE, ITEMS ONE THROUGH FIVE, FIVE AND ITEM SEVEN, ONE THROUGH FIVE.

ITEM SEVEN FOR APPROVAL, UH, FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA.

OKAY.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MR. MORGAN.

CHAIRMAN.

CHAIRMAN, REALLY QUICK.

WE DID HAND OUT AN ADDENDUM MEMO TONIGHT, UH, THAT HAD SOME TWEAKS TO CONDITIONS.

SO AS LONG AS THE MOTION KINDA REFLECTS THAT THESE TO THE MOTION MAKER, DO YOU, UH, I AGREE TO ADD THE ADDENDUM, UH, CONSENT ITEM OR THE, UH, RECALL ADDITIONAL STIPULATIONS, STIPULATION, ADDITIONAL STIPULATIONS? IS THE SECOND OKAY WITH THAT? THANK YOU.

YEAH.

OKAY, GREAT.

OKAY.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS FROM COMMISSION? OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? OKAY.

MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU TO PEOPLE FOR THAT ITEM.

AND LIKE I FOR THOSE ITEMS WE'RE RECOMMENDING BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, THE CHANDLER FARMS, AS YOU HEARD, I THINK WE'LL LET STAFF WORK A LITTLE BIT WITH COUNCIL TO FIGURE OUT THE PAYOFF SITUATION AND LEGALITIES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

SO, OKAY.

ITEM NUMBER

[6. Use Permit, PLH23-0020 Hunt Highway Cell Tower, located within the Sunbird Golf Resort community at the southwest corner of Riggs Road and Cooper Road Move Planning and Zoning Commission recommend approval of Use Permit PLH23-0020 Hunt Highway Cell Tower for the installation of a wireless communication facility, subject to conditions as recommended by Planning staff.]

OKAY, THEN YOU'RE UP.

ITEM NUMBER SIX.

ITEM UP.

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CAN YOU GUYS SEE THAT? YEP.

PERFECT.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

THIS IS A PRESENTATION ON P L H 23 DASH 0 0 2 0.

IT'S A H HIGHWAY CELL TOWER.

THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS FOR A USE PERMIT.

YEP.

IT'S A USE PERMIT FOR A WIRELESS COMMUNICATION FACILITY.

LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE PROPERTY.

SO, UH, THE PROPERTY IS ON P A D FOR A GOLF COURSE SUBDIVISION WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING.

UH, ZONING CODE REQUIRES A USE PERMIT FOR A WIRELESS FACILITY THAT IS NOT CO-LOCATED ON AN EXISTING POLE, AND WHICH CREATES AN EXIST, WHICH CREATES A NEW POLE HOLDING A WIRELESS FACILITY.

OH, LEMME GO BACK ACTUALLY.

SO, JUST FOR A KIND OF BROADER VIEW.

SO YOU HAVE IN THE MIDDLE, UH, CIRCLED IN RED.

THAT IS WHERE THE PROPOSED CELL TOWER IS.

IT'S GONNA BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GO, UH, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GOLF COURSE, UH, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO A EXISTING LIKE MAINTENANCE, UM, BUILDING.

SO, AND THEN HERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A ZOOM DOWN.

ZOOMED IN IMAGE, ONCE AGAIN CIRCLED IN RED IS THE PROPOSED CELL CELL TOWER.

AND THEN TO THE LEFT OF THAT, THAT KIND OF DARK, UH, BLACK OUTLINE IS THE, UH, MAINTENANCE YARD.

AND THEN JUST WEST OF THAT, OR LEFT OF THAT IS THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

UM, SO HISTORICALLY THE CITY OF CHANDLER HAS A PRECEDENCE OF REQUIRING 160 FOOT SETBACK FROM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

UH, SO JUST HERE, SO YOU CAN SEE, UH, ON THE WEST SIDE THERE IS A PROPOSED SETBACK OF 160 FEET.

ON THE SOUTH, THERE'S A PROPOSED SETBACK OF ABOUT 313 FEET.

AND ON THE EAST THERE'S A SETBACK OF 239 FEET.

AND ON THE NORTH THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 800 FEET, UH, WHICH IS THE CLUBHOUSE IS THE CLOSEST POINT OF CONTACT TO THE NORTH.

UH, HERE'S A PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU, IT IS A NEW VERTICALLY VERTICALITY.

UH, IT IS A STEALTH MONO PINE, AND IT WOULD BE 65 FEET TO THE TOP OF THE ANTENNA.

THE CITY OF CHANDLER, WE ALWAYS MEASURE THE HEIGHT TO THE TOP OF THE ANTENNA.

SO, UH, AND THEN THE HEIGHT TO THE TOP OF THE LEAF OR FRONDS AND LIGHTNING ROD WOULD BE ABOUT 69 FEET.

UH, THE CENTER OF THE ANTENNA, WHICH IS, UH, THE FIRST CARRIER AT THE VERY TOP WOULD BE A VERIZON WIRELESS.

UH, THEY WOULD BE AT 61 FEET.

AND THEN THE CENTER FOR THE FUTURE ANTENNA NUMBER TWO WOULD BE AT 51.

AND THE CENTER OF THE FUTURE ANTENNA NUMBER THREE WOULD BE AT ABOUT 30, 41 FEET.

UM, NEXT I'M GONNA SHOW SOME PHOTO SIMULATIONS.

I JUST KIND OF SHOWED THE SITE PLAN SO YOU GUYS CAN KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF WHERE THESE, UH, VIEWS ARE TAKEN FROM.

JUST FOR CONTEXT, I, SO THIS FIRST FEW, UH, IT IS APPROXIMATELY 700 FEET, UH, NORTH NORTHEAST OF THE PROPOSED TOWER.

SO IT'S ALMOST KIND OF THE VIEW FROM THE GOLF COURT, FROM THE CLUBHOUSE.

AND THEN THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW, UH, EAST OF THE PROPOSED TOWER.

AND OF COURSE IT'S THE ONE CIRCLE IN RED.

UH, JUST FOR CONTEXT, THE SMALLER IMAGE IS KIND OF SHOWING HOW IT LOOKS CURRENTLY.

AND LAR LARGER IMAGE IS SHOWING WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH THE MONO PINE.

AND THEN HERE'S ANOTHER VIEW.

UH, IT'S ABOUT SOUTH SOUTHWEST OF THE PROPO SITE.

UH, ONCE AGAIN, IT'S THAT LITTLE CIRCUIT AREA ABOVE THAT ROOF LINE.

AND LASTLY, HERE'S ANOTHER PHOTO SIMULATION, UH, NORTHWEST OF THE PROPOSED TOWER.

UH, LITTLE BIT OF BACKSTORY, LITTLE, UH, CITY REVIEW GUIDELINES.

SO THE CODE, UH, PER CODE, UH, FACILITIES MUST BE STEALTH, STEALTH.

AND IN THIS SITUATION, IT IS A STEALTH FACILITY.

IT IS A MONO BIND, SO IT MEETS CODE REQUIREMENTS THERE.

UM, NEXT ONE.

IT'S A HISTORIC PRECEDENT, PRECEDENCE.

IT'S NOT CODE, BUT IT'S A PRECEDENCE THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE CITY OF CHANDLER IS THAT THERE'S A MINIMUM SEPARATION OF 160 FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES TO ANY PROPOSED CELL SITES.

SO FOR THIS ONE TO THE CLOSEST PROPERTY, UH, IT IS AT 160 FEET.

AND THAT IS A PROPERTY LOCATED, UH, TO THE WEST OF THE SUB SUBJECT SITE.

AND THEN LASTLY, THE, ANOTHER HISTORIC PRECEDENCE, IT'S NOT CODE, BUT WE DO, UH, ASK THIS WHEN APPLICATION DOES COME, DOES COME IN THAT THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF THE FACILITY BE 65 FEET.

THE PROPOSAL IS AT 65 FEET.

AND JUST FOR A LITTLE BA BIT OF BA SORRY, JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, THE FEDERAL

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SO IT DOES PROHIBIT CITIES FROM DENYING THE WIRELESS COMMUNICATION FACILITY DUE TO CONCERNS REGARDING HEALTH EFFECTS OF WIRELESS RADIO FREQUENCY SIGNAL, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH.

THE REQUEST WAS NOTICED IN ACCORDANCE WITH ZONING CODE.

TWO NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS WERE HELD.

ONE WAS HELD IN PERSON ON JULY 26TH, UH, WITH 104 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE, AND ONE ON JULY 27TH, WHICH WAS VIRTUAL WITH 29 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE AND NOTIFICATION PUT WAS POSTED ON NEXTDOOR AND ON SITE.

AND AS OF TODAY, STAFF IS AWARE OF SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.

UH, SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS, UH, KIND OF THE KEY ONES WERE REALLY, UH, HEALTH CONCERNS AND THE CANCER CONCERNS, POSSIBILITY FOR HEALTH, UH, ISSUES AND POSSIBILITY FOR CANCER CONCERNS.

UM, AND THEN LASTLY WAS ALSO PROPERTY VALUES AS WELL WAS ANOTHER CONCERN FROM RESIDENTS.

UH, NEIGHBORHOOD INPUT.

SO HERE WE HAVE A LITTLE MAP KIND OF SHOWING.

UM, IN THE BLUE WE SHOW THE, THE NEIGHBORS THAT WERE IN OPPOSITION AND IN THE YELLOW WE SHOW THE NEIGHBORS THAT WERE IN SUPPORT.

UM, ORIGINALLY THERE WAS 28 VERIFIED HOMEOWNERS IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST AND 94 VERIFIED HOMEOWNERS IN SUPPORT.

UH, CURRENTLY.

SO SINCE, UM, RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS HAVE AN ADDENDUM MEMO WITH MORE EMAILS OF RESIDENTS AND SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.

SO AS OF TODAY, WHAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE 29 VERIFIED HOMEOWNERS IN OPPOSITION AND 98 VERIFIED HOMEOWNERS IN SUPPORT, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

UH, THE PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.

IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING LAND USES.

IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PRECI, WITH PRECEDENTS AND PLANNING STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS AND THIS ON STAFF PRESENTATION AND IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

QUESTION QUESTIONS TO STAFF.

BEN? COUPLE THINGS.

CAN YOU THROW THE ONE SLIDE THAT I THINK SHOWED THE DISTANCES? MM-HMM.

, THERE WE GO.

I'S THAT ONE THERE? THE 160 FEET TO THE WEST IS, SO IS THAT WITH THE CLUB? IT'S BEHIND THE CLUBHOUSE THOUGH.

SO IT'S THE CLUB, YOU HAVE THE, THE MONOPINE, THEN THE CLUBHOUSE, OR NOT THE CLUBHOUSE MAINTENANCE SHIRT, SORRY, MAINTENANCE SHARED.

CORRECT.

AND OKAY, SO THAT DOES BLOCK IT.

THIS, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD, UM, IS THE TREES, YOU SHOW SOME EXISTING TREES, UH, PRETTY MATURE.

A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE'VE, WHEN WE'VE HAD THESE CELL TOWERS, WE TRY TO ADD EXTRA TREES IF NECESSARY.

UM, IS THERE A PLACE TO PUT SOME ADDITIONAL SCREENINGS, WHETHER IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MAINTENANCE YARD OR WHATEVER TO HELP SCREEN THIS AT ALL? YEAH, SO THERE ARE CURRENTLY, UM, LEMME SEE IF I CAN GO TO THE PERSPECTIVE VIEWS.

YEP.

TOO FAR.

SO THERE CURRENTLY ARCH TREES ON SITE, SO THERE'S A GOOD BUNCH OF 'EM THAT ARE ON ONSITE RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD ASSIST IN SCREENING THAT ARE PRETTY MATURE IN SIZE.

UM, IF A COMMISSION WOULD LIKE ADDITIONAL TREES, UH, WE CAN MAKE THAT A, A CONDITION OF APPROVAL IF NEEDED.

SO ON THIS VIEW THAT YOU'RE SHOWING, IF LET'S SAY WE PUT ADDITIONAL TREES BETWEEN WHERE YOU TOOK THE PICTURE TO THERE, IS THAT ON THE GOLF COURSE, WOULD IT INTERFERE? IS THERE ROOM TO PUT OTHER TREES TO HELP SCREEN IT A LITTLE BIT? UH, ROOM WITH REGARDS TO JUST, WELL, 'CAUSE YOU HAVE, THERE'S A GOLF COURSE THERE, SO I MEAN, YOU OBVIOUSLY CAN'T PUT IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GREEN.

SO .

YEAH.

UH, GOOD QUESTION.

I BELIEVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PROBABLY WORK WITH THE APPLICANT AND SEE IF THAT IS A POSSIBILITY.

I DO NOT SEE AN, AN ISSUE WHY THAT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE.

OKAY.

BUT WE CAN CONFIRM THAT.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AS UH, STAFF? OKAY.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

OKAY.

THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND MAKE A QUICK PRESENTATION AND THEN WE'VE GOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF SPEAKER CARDS.

IF YOU COULD COME UP, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, THAT'D BE GREAT.

HELLO, MY NAME IS MICHAEL POWERS.

I, UH, REPRESENT THE APP, THE APPLICANT, ATLAS TOWER, UH, ONE L L C, UH, 3 0 0 2 BLUFF STREET, BOULDER, COLORADO.

UM, BUT I'M NOT THE ONLY PERSON THAT'S HERE.

THERE'S ALSO THREE OTHER PROFESSIONALS REPRESENTING, UH, VERIZON.

THERE'S MICHAEL, UH, GALLAGHER, UH, TRACY KLEIN AND STEVEN KENNEDY.

AND THEY, THEY BOTH ALSO, OR THEY ALL HAVE SPECIALTIES IN, IN DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WILL ALLOW, UH, THE AUDIENCE AND, AND THE COMMISSION TO HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ANSWERED WITH THE BEST PERSON FOR THE QUESTION.

OKAY.

UM, SO I'LL, I'LL JUST, UH, DO A QUICK, UH, FILLING IN THE GAP.

UM, STAFF PRESENTATION WAS FANTASTIC.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS WITH,

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UM, I WANTED TO NOTE THAT ATLAS TOWER WOULD BE THE OWNER AND OPERATOR AND MAINTAINER OF THIS FACILITY AND VERIZON AND PERHAPS OTHER CARRIERS THAT MIGHT INSTALL EQUIPMENT WOULD BE SUBTENANTS TO 'EM.

SO WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, ISSUES GOING INTO THE FUTURE, IF, IF IT IS APPROVED AND BUILT, UM, ATLAS TOWER WOULD GENERALLY BE YOUR, YOUR NUMBER ONE GO-TO TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS FACILITY IS RUN PROFESSIONALLY AND CLEAN AND, AND, UM, ANY ISSUES THAT COME UP WOULD BE ADDRESSED DIRECTLY TO US.

BUT OBVIOUSLY THE NATURE OF THIS BUSINESS IS THERE IS THIS OTHER COMPANY, VERIZON, CURRENTLY THAT'S A PARTNER IN THIS, IN THIS ENTERPRISE.

UM, ANOTHER COMMENT I WANTED TO MAKE QUICKLY, JUST TO REITERATE, YOUR, YOUR PLANNING STAFF, UH, MENTIONED THAT THERE IS A PREEMPTION ISSUE WITH, UH, CONGRESS'S DELEGATION TO F C C TO DO BA BASICALLY TOTALLY, UM, CONTROLLED THE, THE, THE SAFETY OF THE, THE MANUFACTURER, THE, THE, THE, THE DISTRIBUTION, THE INSTALLATION AND, AND OPERATION OF WIRELESS EQUIPMENT.

UM, AND THEREFORE, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, OR ANY CONCERNS, SORRY, ANY DECISION MADE BASED ON ANY CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT WOULD BE PRECLUDED AND, AND PROBABLY WOULDN'T, UM, WOULD SORT OF MUDDY THE RECORD AS WE MOVE FORWARD POSSIBLY, UH, TO AN, ANY APPEAL IF THAT HAPPENED.

BUT, UM, I EXPECT THAT CONVERSATION HA TO HAPPEN.

AND WE DO HAVE SOME PROFESSIONALS, SPECIFICALLY STEVEN KENNEDY'S HAS A SHORT PRESENTATION ON, ON SAFETY THAT PERHAPS THE COMMISSION OR THE AUDIENCE MIGHT, MIGHT, MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN.

UM, I'LL STOP THERE.

BUT I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT AGAIN, WE, WE ARE PRESENTING, UH, A VERY, WHAT I WOULD CALL CLEAN APPLICATION.

WE WORK REALLY HARD TO MEET YOUR CODE.

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NEEDED.

UH, I, THIS, THIS, THIS TECHNOLOGY AS EVERYONE KNOWS IS ESSENTIAL FOR, FOR ALL SORTS OF THINGS.

UM, I COULD TALK ON AND ON ABOUT SAFETY AND FIRST RESPONDERS, BUT, UM, YOUR VERY SOPHISTICATED BODY AND I'M SURE YOU KNOW, KNOW THAT'S AN ISSUE, BUT, UM, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE WORKED HARD TO GET THIS TO THIS POINT AND I HOPE YOU APPROVE IT.

IT'S GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY AND IT'S ILLEGAL, UM, USE, UH, IN THIS AREA AND IT'S GONNA BE A BENEFIT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, HOLD ON.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? I DO HAVE TWO QUICK QUESTIONS.

YES SIR.

WHAT'S THE CLOSEST OTHER TOWER? I, I KNOW THE SOUTH PART OF CHANDLER HAS SOME VERY BIG ISSUES.

YEARS AGO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD FITS DOWN THERE.

WHAT'S THE CLOSEST TOWER TO WHERE THIS ONE IS FOR YOU GUYS? BEN, MAYBE CAN YOU ANSWER THAT? THANK YOU.

NOT NECESSARILY ANSWER, BUT I DO HAVE AN EXHIBIT SHOWING OTHER FACILITIES.

BEAR WITH ME FOR JUST A MINUTE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE DO SHOW AN EXHIBIT HERE.

UM, SO THE, THE ONE HERE CIRCLED IN RED, THAT IS A POST FACILITY AND THE OTHER CLOSEST FACILITY, I HAVEN'T MEASURED IT.

UM, BUT WE HAVE A COUPLE, WE HAVE THIS ONE RIGHT OVER HERE JUST NORTH OF, UH, BRIGGS ROAD, BRIGGS RIGGS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO NOT SUPER CLOSE AND DEPENDS ON WHO THE CARRIER IS AS WELL.

UM, ONE MORE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

I MENTIONED TREES AND MAYBE ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL TREES.

IS THAT A BIG ISSUE FOR YOU GUYS? IF YOU NEEDED TO ADD A FEW MORE PINE TREES? NOT FOR US.

I'D BE HAPPY TO DO ANY, UM, ADDITIONAL OKAY.

UH, UH, VEGETATION THAT, THAT YOU COUNSEL.

SO I KNOW YOU BROUGHT EXPERTS, BUT WE'RE GONNA LET THE AUDIENCE TALK AND IF WE NEED TO BRING YOU BACK UP TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS, WE'LL DO THAT.

SURE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY, SO I'M GONNA GO TO THE AUDIENCE AND I'VE GOT A LOT OF SPEAKER CARDS AND I'LL READ YOUR NAME OFF.

I HOPE I DON'T BUTCHER IT TOO BAD.

AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK, GREAT.

IF YOU DON'T, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SAY WHETHER YOU'RE IN, I HAVE IT CHECKED OFF WHETHER YOU'RE IN, UM, SUPPORT OF THE ITEM AND STUFF.

SO, UM, START THIS OFF.

MICHAEL REED, THIS IS IN SUPPORT.

DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK? UH, I CAN SPEAK IF YOU WANNA SPEAK, COME ON UP.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD JUST FOR, FOR THE AUDIENCE.

IF WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK, THAT'S FINE.

WE'LL BE HERE AS LONG AS IT TAKES, BUT TRY NOT TO REPEAT THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN TOO AND STUFF.

SO IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, THAT'D BE GREAT.

MICHAEL REED, UH, 1 9 0 9 EAST GLEN EAGLE DRIVE, THAT'S, UH, FROM THAT ADDRESS IS ALL THE WAY

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SO RIGHT ALONG, UH, HUNT HIGHWAY.

AND UP UNTIL ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, WE, WE WERE WITH VERIZON ACTUALLY FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

WE USED A MOBILE HOTSPOT 'CAUSE WE MOVED AROUND A BIT AND UP UNTIL ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO IT WAS FINE.

BUT, UH, IN RECENT YEARS IT JUST STARTED DETERIORATING AND IT'S JUST GOTTEN WORSE AND WORSE.

WE, UH, WE FINALLY CHANGED FROM THEM TO ANOTHER PROVIDER WHEN THEY ADVERTISED THE FIVE G.

UH, THAT WORKED FOR A LITTLE BIT.

UH, BUT WITH, UH, I, I WAS ON THE PHONE WITH A TECHNICIAN THERE AND AT THE END OF THAT, UH, CONVERSATION HE SAID, I RECOMMEND YOU RETURN IT BECAUSE, UH, THAT WASN'T WORKING.

AND, UH, CURRENTLY WE'RE GETTING BY WITH, UH, UH, HARDWIRED, UH, INTERNET AND OUR WIFI ROUTER IN THE HOUSE.

WE PIGGYBACKED THE CELL PHONE ON THE, ON THE WIFI, WHICH WORKS, UM, PRETTY GOOD EXCEPT, UH, ALMOST EVERY DAY THERE'S SOME DROP CALL, UH, SUNDAY.

MY WIFE'S PHONE WOULDN'T WORK.

SHE USED MINE ON MONDAY.

SHE WAS ELSEWHERE IN CHANDLER.

TRIED CALLING IN, UH, IT, IT PICKED UP, BUT SHE COULDN'T HEAR ME.

AND, UH, I COULD GO ON, BUT, UH, I DID HAVE A, A REQUIREMENT TO CALL 9 1 1 ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO.

MY WIFE FELL IN, IN THE GARAGE AND ACTUALLY BROKE HER LEG.

UH, IT TOOK THREE TRIES, SO I, I GOT TO NINE ONE ONE, THE CALL DROPPED AND UH, UM, I THINK THEY CALLED ME BACK AS I RECALL, UH, ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO.

BUT IT TOOK THREE TRIES TO COMPLETE THE COMMUNICATION AND IT'S JUST NOT GONNA GET ANY BETTER WITH PEOPLE GOING TO STREAMING AND ALL THE THINGS WE HEAR ABOUT.

SO THIS IS VERY MUCH NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT.

AND UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT DO HAVE GOOD CELL PHONE SERVICE, THEY HAVE IT BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE HAS A TOWER AND, UH, FOR US ALL THE WAY DOWN ALONG HUNT HIGHWAY, THE TOWERS JUST AREN'T CLOSE ENOUGH ANYMORE.

OKAY.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALRIGHT.

APPRECIATE IT.

UH, THE NEXT PERSON I HAVE IS TONY LEONARD IS IN FAVOR.

DO YOU WANNA SPEAK? UH, OBJECT PLEASE.

OKAY, THAT'S FINE.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE, BUT YOU'RE IN SUPPORT.

YES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

UH, NEXT PERSON I HAVE TRIC, PATRICIA, K I C S.

DO YOU, YOU WANNA COME UP AND SPEAK? NO, I'M NOT.

AND YOU'RE IN OP, BUT YOU'RE IN OPPOSITION, CORRECT? I, OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, NEXT ONE.

GLENDA JACOBSON, IT LOOKS LIKE, OR JACOB.

AND I'D LIKE TO COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, JUST FOR EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO TALK.

THERE'S A GREEN LIGHT, YOU WANNA STARTS, THE YELLOW LIGHT GIVES YOU 30 SECONDS AND A RED LIGHT ONE TO STOP.

SO, UM, I'M GLEN TO JACOBS CLIENT AT 1569 EAST BYAS DRIVE.

I SENT A EMAIL, UM, WHEN THERE WAS A DATE ABOUT THE CELL TOWER STARTING, AND WE'D BEEN IN SUNBIRD ABOUT NINE AND A HALF YEARS.

UM, MOST OF OUR KIDS AND FAMILY LIVE OUTSIDE IN STATES ALL OVER THE US MOST OF THE TIME OUR CALLS ARE DROPPED OR WE HAVE TO CALL BACK TO EACH OTHER.

UM, ON JULY 19TH, I HAD SOME HEART ISSUES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.

AND SO I WENT TO CALL NINE ONE ONE.

I HAD TO CALL THREE TIMES BEFORE I GOT TO THEM AND THE AMBULANCE CAME AND I WAS HOSPITALIZED.

SO IT WAS VERY SCARY AND UH, I REALLY KIND OF HAD HEALTH CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.

SO, UM, I JUST THINK IT'S NEEDED, VERY MUCH NEEDED, UM, FOR CONNECTION AND FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I HOPE YOU'RE FEELING BETTER.

I HAD A STINT.

I'M GOOD.

GREAT.

AWESOME.

AWESOME.

THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

UH, NEXT CARD I HAVE IS, IT LOOKS LIKE BOB, IT'S EITHER LLAMA OR L A I M A.

AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE.

UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK OR YOU'RE IN, YOU'RE IN.

I'D LIKE TO BYPASS IT THIS TIME.

OKAY.

YOU'RE IN SUPPORT THOUGH, RIGHT, SIR? THANK YOU.

OKAY.

JULIA NCE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK OR YOU'RE YOU'RE IN SUPPORT? I'M IN SUPPORT.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? NO.

OKAY.

THAT'S FINE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

CAROL? IT LOOKS LIKE D E L K.

OKAY.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK OR JUST, YOU'RE IN S YOU'RE IN SUPPORT THOUGH.

GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, SCOTT STORE.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU SAID NEEDED TO IMPROVE CONNECTIVITY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SPECIFICALLY EMERGENCY CALLS.

AND I'VE HEARD THAT NOW FROM SEVERAL PEOPLE.

I THINK THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT.

UM, MARY STAR.

OKAY.

YOU'RE IN SUPPORT TOO AND I'M HOPING TO IMPROVE CONNECTIVITY AND USE VERIZON WIRELESS ROUTER FOR INTERNET.

OKAY.

UM, DEAN TUCKER, YOU'RE IN SUPPORT.

YOU, YOU DON'T WISH TO SPEAK? THAT'S FINE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, LISA? I BELIEVE IT'S ONYX I SUPPORT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, STRONGLY IN FAVOR FOR, UH, SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS.

OKAY.

UM, LT DOYLE? YES, I FAVOR .

OKAY, THANK YOU.

PLEASE ALLOW THE CELL TOWER TO BE PLACED IN SUNBIRD.

I NEED BETTER CELL SERVICE IN MY AREA.

OKAY.

UM, WHAT DID WE DO 20 YEARS AGO? WE DIDN'T HAVE CELL CELL PHONES.

WE HAD BETTER LANDLINES.

I'LL TELL YOU THAT.

SO THAT'S FOR SURE.

UM, LET'S SEE.

GURAN.

HUFFMAN.

OKAY.

AND YOU'RE OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, OKAY.

LINDA KNUTSON? YES.

OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, IT'S GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.

NEED BETTER CELL SERVICE.

OKAY.

UM, PATRICK LEACH, I'M COURT.

OKAY.

YOU WISH TO SPEAK? NO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MARJORIE LEACH, I TAKE IT YOU'RE IN SUPPORT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU .

OKAY.

KEEP THAT FAMILY HAPPY.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IF SHE'S WELCOME TO COME ON UP.

I THINK YOU MIGHT BE IN TROUBLE IF YOU MAKE HER COME UP THOUGH.

SO, UH, CINDY WILSON, YOU'RE IN SUPPORT.

OKAY.

I NEED BETTER CELL SERVICE.

THANK YOU.

UM, BRUCE WILSON, I'M IN SUPPORT.

OKAY.

DON'T WANNA TALK.

OKAY.

I TOTALLY SUPPORT TOWER INSTALLATION AT SUNBIRD.

THANK YOU.

UM, DAVE WHITE SUPPORT.

DO YOU WISH TO TALK? UH, I'LL JUST REPEAT WHAT SUNBIRD ALREADY SAID.

OKAY.

SUPPORT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

LACK OF RELIABLE CELL SERVICE BY HUNT, HUNT HIGHWAY.

OKAY.

UH, GARY POPE, POPE POP EARLIER, SO, OKAY.

AND YOU'RE IN SUPPORT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

SUZANNE POKA, I PRESUME YOU'RE IN SUPPORT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

JUST CHECKING AND MAKE SURE.

FAMILY, FAMILY HARMONY.

DON'T WANNA GET IN TROUBLE TONIGHT.

OKAY.

UM, MY WATCH, MY WIFE WATCHES THESE SO I'LL GET IN TROUBLE.

I GET SCRUTINIZED WHEN I GET HOME.

UM, LAUREN WALLACE, YOU'RE IN SUPPORT.

YOU WANNA SPEAK? OKAY, GREAT.

NEED BETTER SERVICE, ESPECIALLY FOR 9 1 1.

UM, BARB WALLACE.

OKAY.

YOU OKAY? WANT BETTER SERVICE? OKAY, MOVING RIGHT.

RENEE SEAMAN, YOU'D LIKE TO TALK, COME ON UP.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

HI, RENEE SEAMAN, 1631 EAST REVE COURT IN CHANDLER.

UM, I HAD AN INCIDENT HAPPEN LIKE THREE WEEKS AGO TO ME ON A WALK AT ABOUT SEVEN 30 IN THE MORNING.

AND OUR H O A ISN'T OPEN AND I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS WORTHY OF CALLING 9 1 1, BUT WE'VE HAD BREAK-INS AND I HAVE A FRIEND THAT THEIR HOUSE WAS BROKEN TOO, AND I STAYED THERE FIVE HOURS WITH THE COPS, UM, ON AUGUST 14TH.

SO THIS HAPPENED TWO OR THREE WEEKS AFTER THAT, LET'S SAY.

AND IT'S ON TORRY PINES, UH, IN A AREA WHERE THERE'S SMALLER, THE, THE VILLAS.

AND I SAW A DOOR RIPPED OFF A HOUSE AND IT WAS KIND OF JUST HANGING THERE AND I'M LIKE, OKAY, WELL SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING.

SO I CALLED THE THE GUARD SHACK, WHICH OPENS, I THINK AT SIX.

THE GUY KEPT REPEATEDLY SAYING, YOU'RE BREAKING UP.

I CAN'T HEAR YOU, YOU'RE BREAKING UP.

AND THAT'S AT THE ALMOST THE FRONT OF, OF, OF IT.

SO I'M REAL CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY.

UM, I HAVE TO BE ON WIFI CALLING AT HOME.