[ Consent Agenda Items listed on the Consent Agenda may be enacted by one motion and one vote. If a discussion is required by members of the Board or Commission, the item will be removed from the Consent Agenda for discussion and determination will be made if the item will be considered separately.]
[5. Preliminary Development Plan, PLH22-0014 Crossroads Nazarene Church Sports Fields, located northeast corner of Ray and Price roads Move Planning and Zoning Commission recommend approval of Preliminary Development Plan PLH22-0014 Crossroads Nazarene Church Sports Fields for multi-use sports fields, subject to the conditions as recommended by Planning staff.]
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TERMS OF ONE OF THE STIPULATIONS, I BELIEVE THERE'S, THERE'S A NEEDS TO BE A FONT.IS THERE A PHONE NUMBER TO BE RECEPTIVE TO CONTACT? I THINK THAT IT'S KIND OF HARD TO CONTROL IF IT'S JUST PARKING LIGHTS, BUT AGAIN, THEY COULD BE SHUT OFF AND THEN YOU HAVE A CRIME ISSUE WHERE YOU HAVE MINIMALISM, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, WHAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO THE BEST WAY TO ADDRESS THIS? I'M LOOKING OVER PLANNING MANAGER.
UM, YOU MENTIONED THERE ARE A NUMBER OF STIPULATIONS THAT ARE PROPOSED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
AND ONE OF THEM BEING THAT THE CHURCH IS GOING TO PROVIDE A, UH, CONTACT, UH, SO THAT IF THERE ARE ISSUES THAT COME UP, UM, THAT CONTACT INFORMATION WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR RESIDENTS TO, UM, TO, TO LET THEM KNOW, HEY, THERE'S, THERE'S A NOISE ISSUE OR THERE'S A LIGHT ISSUE, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, AND THE IDEAS FOR THAT TO BE ABLE TO HAPPEN QUICKLY SO THAT THEY CAN ADDRESS THAT, UM, VERY QUICKLY ON THE SPOT.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR, YOU KNOW, THE OFFICE TO OPEN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO WE BELIEVE THAT THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST, UM, MO PASS TO MOVE FORWARD IS TO, UM, CONTINUE TO REQUIRE THAT, THAT STIPULATION FOR THAT CONTACT.
AND ALSO TO KEEP THE STEPS THAT ARE REGARDING THE, UH, THE LIGHTING.
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SO RIGHT NOW THE LIGHTING HAS TO BE TURNED OFF AT NINE O'CLOCK.I KNOW THERE'S NO SPECIAL LIGHTING WHERE THE BASKETBALL COURT IS, BUT, UM, BUT THAT IF IT'S ENFORCED BY THE, THE CHURCH TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, TO NOT ALLOW THOSE AREAS TO BE USED AFTER THE LIGHTING IS OFF, THEN, THEN THAT COULD HELP.
SO WHEN A RECOMMENDATION OF LIKE ADDING LIKE NO TRESPASSING SIGNS OR NO USE OF THE FACILITIES AFTER NINE O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, THEN THE POLICE WOULD HAVE A WAY OF COMING IN AND DOING SOMETHING.
IF THERE'S NO NOTHING'S POSTED, IT'S KIND OF HARD FOR THE POLICE TO DO ANYTHING.
I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK FOR A SOLUTION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS YOU KNOW.
SO, UM, THEY, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, CONTACT THE RESIDENTS NEARBY AND SAY, HEY, HERE'S OUR PHONE NUMBER.
IF YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES, GIVE US A CALL.
BUT MY POINT IS, IF THERE ARE, IF SOMEBODY IS ON PROPERTY AND THEY CALL THE POLICE AND POLICE GO, THERE'S NO TRESPASSING, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
SO IS THERE A WAY TO HELP, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF ENFORCING IT OR WHATEVER, I THINK THE CHURCH HAS A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
I JUST THINK IT'S A CHALLENGING KIND OF THING.
IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE JUST GOING, PLAYING LATE AT NIGHT, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR A SOLUTION.
I THINK THE, THE, THE, THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, I'M FINE WITH, UM, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY OBJECTIONS FROM ANYBODY.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TIGHTEN THIS UP AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
AND IF YOU FEEL THE STIPULATIONS WE HAVE IN THERE NOW ARE FINE, THEN I'M GOOD WITH THAT AS WELL.
FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, I THINK WE, WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE STIPULATIONS IN THERE, BUT IT IS GOING TO TAKE THE, UM, THE, THE CHURCH TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THOSE STIPULATIONS AND, AND THE CITY TO CALL THE CHURCH ON ENFORCING THOSE STIPULATIONS THEMSELVES.
COMMISSION, UM, I MAY HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CHURCH REPRESENTATIVE.
COULD WE HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF EXACTLY WHERE THIS BASKETBALL LOCATION IS ON THE SITE PLAN? AND IS IT JUST ONE BASKETBALL HOOP? IS IT TWO, IS THERE LIKE A DESIGNATED AREA OR ARE THEY JUST USING THE ASPHALT PARKING LOT TO RIGHT.
AND YOU, AND I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT IS DEPENDING ON THE LOCATION AND WHAT THE ANSWERS ARE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN INCLINATION TO MAYBE LOOK AT RELOCATING THAT BASKETBALL HOOP TO A LOCATION THAT'S PERHAPS A WAY FROM PARK AVENUE AND THE RESIDENCES.
THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF ASPHALT ON THIS SITE.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WOULD BE A VIABLE OPTION NUMBER 16.
OH, I KNOW I ENDED MY SLIDE POINT AND THIS, THERE WE GO.
SO YOU COULD SEE THE, UM, SOME OF THE SOLAR PANELS THAT ARE LOCATED ON TOP OF A SHADED AREA, PARKING ON JUST TO THE SOUTH.
YOU CAN SEE THE ASPHALT, WHICH IS PART OF THE PARKING AREA, BUT YOU'VE GOT ONE GROUP ON THE LEFT SIDE ON THE RIGHT SIDE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN PLAY BASKETBALL WRITING BETTER.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, COMMISSIONER.
UH, JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO, TO THINK THROUGH THIS AND THE COURSE OF ACTION.
I KNOW THERE'S A PHONE NUMBER AND REPRESENTATIVE.
I THINK THAT STIPULATION IS GREAT, BUT IF I'M, IF I'M A RESIDENT AND THIS ISSUE IS HAPPENING, OKAY, THIS IS HAPPENING AT 10:00 PM, 11:00 PM.
I DON'T THINK SOMEBODY FROM THE CHURCH IS GOING TO BE ANSWERING AT 11:00 PM.
SO IF I'M CALLING THEM THE NEXT DAY AND THEY SAY, OKAY, YEAH, THANKS FOR YOUR CONCERN.
AM I PUTTING SOMEBODY OUT THERE AT NIGHT TO STOP THEM? MY ASKING YOU A POLICE OFFICER TO, TO TAKE A SPIN BY AND SEE IF THEY'RE PLAYING BASKETBALL.
I JUST, I, I'M JUST NOT SURE WHAT THE ACTUAL ACTION STEP WOULD BE.
IF, IF THIS IS JUST A RECURRING ISSUE WITHOUT POTENTIALLY ASSIGNED AS, AS MR. CHAIR, UH, RECOMMENDED AT LEAST JUST SAYING, HEY, AS A COURTESY TO YOUR NEIGHBORS, PLEASE CONSIDER KEEPING THE NOISE DOWN OR SOMETHING THAT ISSUE.
AND I, AND I THINK ALL OF THESE CAN BE HANDLED BETWEEN THE CHURCH AND, AND THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THAT I WANT TO THROW OUT THERE.
WE DO HOURS OF OPERATION FOR OUR PARKS.
THEY'RE TECHNICALLY SIX TO 10.
OR, YOU KNOW, AND FIVE O'CLOCK WE'LL PASS SOME THINGS THAT
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I JUST BRING BACK THE POLICE KIND OF CONVERSATION.IT'S, THERE'S NOT TRESPASSING, BUT IF THERE ARE SIGNS UP THAT SAY, YOU KNOW, UM, THIS LOT IS CLOSED AFTER X HOURS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND MAYBE THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THE CHURCH CAN WORK WITH STAFF ON.
I DON'T WANT TO SIT HERE ALL NIGHT AND DISCUSS IT, BUT WE WOULD BE MORE THAN COMFORTABLE TO PUT UP THOSE SIGNS NOW.
HUMAN REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE CHURCH HAS ST.
STATED THAT THEY WOULD COMPLY WITH PUTTING UP SIGNS SAYING NO TRESPASSING AFTER 9:00 PM.
THAT'S X GEAR, BUT THAT'LL HELP THE ROOT CAUSE THEN YOU CALL THE POLICE.
THE POLICE HAVE SOME ENFORCEABLE KINDS OF THINGS CAUSE SOMEBODY TRESPASSING.
WE DON'T WANT TO CALL THE POLICE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY I CAN'T DO YOU WANT TO COME UP? SORRY.
AND OBVIOUSLY THE POLICE WOULD PETTY ITEMS MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO.
SO, UM, I GUESS ACTUALLY, IF I CAN ASK A QUESTION, SO THEY MENTIONED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE AN AVENUE TO KIND OF CONTACT THE CHURCH IF THERE WAS AN ISSUE, BUT LIKE WHERE WILL THAT BE POSTED ON THE CHURCH'S WEBSITE? LIKE HOW WOULD SOMEBODY ACCESS THAT? SAY IF YOU MISPLACE IT AFTER THEY INITIALLY GIVE IT TO YOU, LAUREN CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
IT'S A STIPULATION, WE ALL AROUND THE CITY FOR DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES.
UH, IT'S A CONTACT NUMBER THAT I COULD GET FROM THE PASTOR DURING THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, THE PASTOR'S WIFE GAVE UP HER NUMBER.
SHE SAYS THE PHONE IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE.
SO WE NEEDED SOMEBODY WHO WOULD PICK UP THE PHONE, RESPOND QUICKLY.
WE DIDN'T WANT IT ROLLING TO ON OFFICES NUMBER.
UM, I GUESS MY MAIN CONCERN, OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD JUST BE AMPLIFIED NOISE.
YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE IN A CONCERT VENUE, WELL, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE STIPULATION.
NO, NO NOTHING AFTER NINE O'CLOCK AND YOU EVEN DURING THE DAY, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A NICE SATURDAY, YOU WENT AND HUNG ON YOUR POOL.
THERE'S ALSO A STIPULATION THAT THEN WE WROTE IT ABOUT THE AMBIENT NOISE.
IT CAN'T BE ANY DIFFERENT THAN THE AREA ANYWAY.
SO WE WERE ALREADY, WE ADDRESSED THAT.
SO I SEE, YOU KNOW, I'M THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF I NEED TO READ IN THE STEPS, PLEASE.
ADDITIONAL STIPULATION SHALL BE ADDED FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE, STIPULATION NUMBER 12 SHALL READ NO NOISE SHALL BE ADMITTED FOR OUTDOOR SPEAKERS OR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT ON THE STAGE AREA, SUCH A MANNER THAT EXCEEDS THE GENERAL LEVEL OF NOISE ADMITTED BY USES OUTSIDE THE PREMISE OF THE CHURCH AND TO SERVE ADJACENT BUSINESSES IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
DO WE WANT TO ADDITIONAL STIPULATION REGARDING TRESPASSING? I THINK THE CHURCH CAN WORK THAT OUT.
I THINK THAT THEY'RE FULLY AWARE OF, BECAUSE AGAIN, UM, PART OF THE STIPULATION IS HAPPENED THAT CONTACT NUMBER, IF THEY'RE NOT RESPONSIVE, THAT IT ALSO FLAGS THE USE PERMIT AS WELL, SO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR AMPLIFIED MIKE'S WEAR GAP.
I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM WITH THE ADDITIONAL STEPS, PLEASE.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
P L H T T ONE FOUR WITH THE ADDITIONAL STEPS READ IN BY CITY STAFF.
UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER ESSENCE.
CHAIRMAN VOTING TO SOME ASSISTANCE, EVEN ENGINEERING.
HARD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THING YOU'RE GONNA SAY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES NOW SAY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ABSTENTION.
UM, COMMENTS FROM STAFF, DAVID,
[10. The next Regular Meeting will be held on Wednesday, August 17, 2022, in the Chandler City Council Chambers, 88 E. Chicago Street, Chandler, Arizona.]
UH, JUST TO THE PUBLIC.WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING ON AUGUST 3RD.
THERE IS AN ELECTION ON AUGUST 2ND.
UM, IF YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR EARLY BALLOT, YOU CAN VOTE IN PERSON.
THERE'S ACTUALLY A VOTING PLACE AT HERE AT CITY HALL AS WELL.
I HEARD ABOUT THERE'S A, UM, THE MAYOR'S RACE, THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND PROPOSITION 4 78, WHICH IS THE HOME RULE, SIRE, JUDAH STUDY THE ISSUES AND THE POLICE GO OUT AND VOTE WITH THAT MUCH.