Mar 16, 2022 Planning & Zoning Meeting - 3/16/2022

[ Call to Order/Roll Call]

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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HEARING FOR MARCH 16TH.

AND THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

CHAIRMAN HUMAN VICE CHAIR, ROSE HERE.

COMMISSIONER MORGAN, COMMISSIONER CULTURAL HERE.

COMMISSIONER QUINN, COMMISSIONER VELASQUEZ.

YEAH.

YEAH, OF COURSE.

THANK YOU.

FIRST.

THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE COMMISSIONER CALLED THE SHOW WILL LEAD US, PLEASE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

THE

[ Consent Agenda Items listed on the Consent Agenda may be enacted by one motion and one vote. If a discussion is required by members of the Board or Commission, the item will be removed from the Consent Agenda for discussion and determination will be made if the item will be considered separately.]

AND TO THE AUDIENCE BEFORE THIS MEETING, WE HAD, WE ONLY HAVE ONE ITEM, THE ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS THE REZONING FOR HAZEL WILL BE HEARD AS AN ACTION ITEM, BUT IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE ANY, UM, INFORMATION OR COMMENTS ON ANY OF THE CONSENT ITEM? CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY.

I DON'T SEE ANY, UH, WHAT'S THE COMMISSION'S PLEASURE OR THE CHAIR? VICE CHAIR.

YEAH.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING'S MEETING.

OKAY.

SO I HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND.

WAS IT? OH, YOU'RE BOTH.

OKAY.

YOU GET TO PICK WHICH ONE? SO, UM, OKAY.

ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? OKAY.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

OKAY.

[5. Rezoning, Preliminary Development Plan, and Preliminary Plat, PLH21-0077/PLT21-0048 Hazelwood By Keystone Homes, located at the southeast corner of Chandler Heights Road and 124th Street, approximately ½ mile east of McQueen Road Rezoning Move Planning and Zoning Commission recommend approval of Rezoning PLH21-0077 Hazelwood By Keystone Homes, Rezoning from AG-1 to PAD for a single-family residential, subject to the conditions as recommended by Planning staff. Preliminary Development Plan Move Planning and Zoning Commission recommend approval of Preliminary Development Plan PLH21-0077 Hazelwood By Keystone Homes for subdivision layout and housing product, subject to the conditions as recommended by Planning staff. Preliminary Plat Move Planning and Zoning Commission recommend approval of Preliminary Plat, PLT21-0048 Hazelwood By Keystone Homes, subject to the condition as recommended by Planning staff.]

WARREN, I BELIEVE THIS IS YOUR CASE, RIGHT? THANK YOU CHAIR.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

ONE SECOND.

JUST, JUST THE AUDIENCE KNOWS STAFF WILL MAKE A PRESENTATION.

THE ATTORNEY WILL MAKE A PRESENTATION.

THEN WE'LL GO TO THE AUDIENCE, GO BACK TO THE, THE APPLICANT.

AND IF WE NEED TO GO BACK TO STAFF AS WELL AND STUFF.

SO, BUT THE FLOURISHERS LEARN RIGHT BEFORE YOU ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PLH 2177 AND PLT 2148, UH, HAZELWOOD BY KEYSTONE HOMES.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY WITHIN THE COUNTY AND IS GOING THROUGH THE ANNEXATION PROCESS UPON ANNEXATION.

THE INITIAL CITIES ZONING WOULD BE GIVEN OF, UH, AGE ONE.

SO THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS A REZONING FROM AGU ONE TO PLAN AREA DEVELOPMENT FOR SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL AS WELL AS A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR SUBDIVISION LAYOUT AND HOUSING PRODUCT AND THE PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL FOR 22 LOTS.

THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF CHANDLER HEIGHTS ROAD AND 120 FOURTH STREET, AND IS GENERALLY LOCATED A HALF MILE FROM MCQUEEN AND CHANDLER HEIGHTS ROAD SURROUNDING LAND USES INCLUDE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY ISLAND, A LARGE LOG TO THE EAST AND TO THE SOUTH, UH, TO THE WEST IS AN UNIMPROVED 120 FOURTH STREET, AS WELL AS A SUBDIVISION, UH, OF 86 LOTS, UH, ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY TO THE NORTH.

UH, WE HAVE CHANDLER HEIGHTS IN NORTH OF CHANDLER HEIGHTS ROAD IS AN ELEMENTARY JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL.

THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS A 22 LOT, UH, WITHIN 8.6 ACRES, THE DENSITY PROPOSED IS 2.54 UNITS, EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE.

THE LOTS RANGE FROM 9,100 TO 9,800 SQUARE FEET.

UH, THE SETBACKS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING WOULD BE 20 FEET TO A FORWARD FACING GARAGE, 15 FEET TO LIVABLE AND 10 FEET FOR A SIDE ENTRY OR A PORCH TO ALLOW FOR SOME MOVEMENT ALONG THE STREET SIDE YARDS WOULD BE FIVE FEET AND 10 FEET, UH, WITH REAR YARD BEING PROPOSED OF 15 FEET AND ALLOWING FOR ACCESSORY BUILDINGS TO BE REDUCED TO A FIVE FOOT SETBACK OF THE 22 LOTS.

ALL OF THE LOTS BEING PROPOSED WILL BE A ONE-STORY HOME.

THE MAX HEIGHT OF THE ONE STORY, UH, IS 24 FEET WITHIN THE, UH, SUBDIVISION, UH, SOME AMENITIES AND SOME THINGS TO CALL OUT.

IT IS A GATED SUBDIVISION.

HOWEVER, IF YOU LOOK AT THE IMAGE DOWN BELOW, UM, THEY WOULD ENTER OFF OF 120 FOURTH STREET, UH, AND THEN THERE WILL BE TWO ENTRANCES TO ACCESS EITHER ROAD, UH, NOT BEING FULLY GATED, BUT GATED FROM VEHICLES.

UH, THEY WOULD PROVIDE VIEW FENCING OUT ALONG

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FENCING IS, UH, REQUIRED.

UH, AND THEY'RE PROVIDING AN AVERAGE OF 45 FEET MORE IN PLACES OF VIEW FENCING AND SOLID FENCING OUT ALONG CHANDLER HEIGHTS ROAD, UH, WITH ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING IN FRONT OF THAT FENCE WITH TREES, UH, THEY PROVIDE FOR PARKING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.

UH, SOME OF THE AMENITIES, THERE'S A SHADED COMMUNITY AREA WITH TABLES, UH, A SHADED WALKING PATH OUT ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF THE SUBDIVISION.

UH, THERE'S CURRENTLY A DITCH ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

SO BY ALLOWING FOR THAT OPEN SPACE, A WALKING PATH, IF ANY ISSUES WERE TO OCCUR, UH, IT COULD BE MAINTAINED, UH, AS WELL AS A BACCI BALL COURT.

AS I SAID EARLIER, WITH THE FRONT SETBACKS, YOU CAN SEE MOVEMENT, UH, BETWEEN THE FOUR, UH, FOUR FLOOR PLANS, UH, SHOW MOVEMENT.

UH, SOME, UM, ALL HOUSES WILL HAVE A THREE CAR GARAGE.

AND ONE OF THE ONE ON THE RIGHT WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE A SIDE ENTRY GARAGE THERE PROPOSING, UH, THREE DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL THEMES.

UH, THE MODERN PRAIRIE, UH, THERE'LL BE FOUR PLAN OR FOUR PLANS OF EACH, UH, WITH THE MODERN PRAIRIE, THE USE OF THE STONE, THE LARGE, UH, FOAM, UH, STUCCO POP-UP POP OUT.

AND THEN THE WINDOWS ARE RECESSED.

UH, THREE OF THESE, UH, ACTUALLY HAVE THAT FRONT WINDOW WRAP THE CORNER INTO THE SIDE.

UM, ALL OF THE, UM, FEATURES USED ON THE FRONT ARE USED ON THE SIDES IN THE REARS.

UH, WE HAVE THE SPANISH WITH THE USE OF THE S TILES.

UH, THEY HAVE SPECIALTY TILES USED ON A COUPLE OF THE ELEVATIONS, AS WELL AS COLORED FENCING AND TILES, AND THEN A NEW RANCH, UH, WITH THE USE OF THE BOARD AND BATTEN CORBELS, UH, AS WELL AS WOODEN POSTS, WHICH ARE USED ON THE FRONT PORCH, AS WELL AS THE REAR PATIO, UM, ON THE LOWER RIGHT HAND IMAGE.

UH, THOSE ARE PHOTO DORMERS AND THAT IS NOT OCCUPIABLE.

SECOND STORY, ALL OF THE, UH, ALL OF THE ELEVATION SHOWN BEFORE YOU PROVIDE A FRONT PATIO OR A COURTYARD, RIGHT? AS PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH, THERE WAS AN IN-PERSON NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING HELD ON NOVEMBER 30TH, 2021, APPROXIMATELY 18 HOUSEHOLDS ATTENDED, INCLUDING THE APPLICANT, THEIR TEAM AND STAFF.

A MAJORITY OF ALL THE QUESTIONS WERE ABOUT THE ACCESS TO THE SUBDIVISION OUT ALONG 124 STREET, THERE WAS A, UH, ALL NEIGHBORS WITHIN 600 FEET OF THE PROPOSED LOCATION WERE SENT NOTIFICATION AS WELL AS A SIGN WAS POSTED ONSITE.

AND A NOTIFICATION ON THE NEXT DOOR APP WAS POSTED.

AS OF TODAY, PLANNING STAFF IS AWARE OF OPPOSITE OPPOSITION TO ACCESS TO 120 FOURTH STREET.

UM, ALL OPPOSITION RECEIVED, UH, WAS NOT REGARDING THE, THE PROPOSED LAND USE, THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION LAYOUT OR HOUSING PRODUCT.

IT WAS ALL REGARDING THE SUBDIVISION ACCESS TO 120 FOURTH STREET.

JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ABOUT THIS AREA IN MAY OF 2020, THE SUBDIVISION TO THE WEST TREE LAND WAS BEFORE COUNCIL AND RECEIVED APPROVAL FOR 86, LOTS AS PART OF THAT APPROVAL DUE TO CONCERNS FROM RESIDENTS WITHIN THE COUNTY ISLAND TO THE SOUTH, UH, ALL REQUIRED OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS TO 120 FOURTH STREET WERE DEFERRED UNTIL THE EAST SIDE OF THE STREET CAME IN TODAY.

BEFORE YOU, WE HAVE HAZELWOOD, UH, WHICH IS, UM, PROPOSING TO DEVELOP THE EAST SIDE OF THAT STREET.

SO WITH THAT, UM, ALL IMPROVEMENTS, UH, ALONG THE WHOLE FRONTAGE OF HAZELWOOD IS REQUIRED PER THAT COUNCIL STIPULATION AS PART OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, THERE WOULD BE A, UM, UM, AN OPEN DITCH UNDERGROUNDED AND RELOCATED INTO THE TREE LAND TRACK, UH, LANDSCAPING SIDEWALK, CURB GUTTER, UH, TWO LANES TO ALLOW FOR TRAFFIC, BOTH DIRECTIONS AS WELL AS THEN TO THE HAZELWOOD SIDE, CURB, GUTTER, LANDSCAPING, AND THEN HAZELWOOD.

UM, SOME OF THE CONCERNS YOU'LL HEAR THIS EVENING IS THE ACCESS TO 120 FOURTH STREET.

SO, UM, GENERAL, UH, TRAFFIC BEST TRAFFIC PRACTICE IS TO MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC TO ARTERIAL STREETS, CHANDLER HEIGHTS, UH IT'S TO USE COLLECTOR STREETS, UH, TO GET, UH, TRAFFIC TO ARTERIALS, UM, AS WELL AS BEST PRACTICE IS TO USE A SIGNAL IF PROVIDED CURRENTLY AT THE INTERSECTION OF CHANDLER HEIGHTS

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UH, HENCE WHY STAFF, UH, REQUESTED THAT THIS SUBDIVISION ENTRANCE BE LOCATED OFF 120 FOURTH STREET.

SO RESIDENTS CAN SAFELY, UH, UH, PASS THROUGH THE INTERSECTION, UH, AS WELL AS IF THERE WERE TO BE ACCESS OUT ALONG CHANDLER HEIGHTS.

UH, CURRENTLY THERE IS A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS OF PROJECT, UM, ALONG CHANDLER HEIGHTS FROM MCQUEEN TO GILBERT ROAD.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE WIDENING CHANDLER HEIGHTS TO TWO LANES ON EITHER SIDE WITH LANDSCAPE MEDIANS, UH, SEPARATING THOSE, UH, AND THEY ARE EXPECTED TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION OF SUMMER, SUMMER OF 2022.

UH, IF THEY WERE TO RECEIVE, UM, ACCESS FOR THE SUBDIVISION, IT WOULD HAVE TO LINE UP WITH THIS EXISTING DRIVE ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH IS THE BUS DROP-OFF AND PICKUP LOADING ZONE FOR THE SCHOOL, UH, WHICH COULD CREATE, UM, IT WOULD EXACERBATE, UM, ISSUES WITH RESIDENTS TRYING TO LEAVE DURING THE TIMES THAT BUSES ARE TRYING TO ACCESS THE PROPERTY.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO STAY TODAY.

WE DO HAVE OUR CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER, UH, IN ATTENDANCE TO THIS MEETING.

SO IF WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, I DIDN'T GO TO SCHOOL TO GET A DEGREE IN TRAFFIC ENGINEERING, BUT I DID LEARN A LOT IN THE LAST 24 MONTHS WITH THIS THE STREET, UH, THE GENERAL PLAN, DESIGNATE SOCIETY AS NEIGHBORHOODS AND FURTHERMORE, OUR SOUTHEAST CHANDLER AREA PLAN DESIGNATES IT AS RULER BRAIN CHARACTER, WHICH ALLOWS FOR DENSITY OF A 2.5 IN ALLOWING FOR DENSITIES UP TO 3.5.

THE PROPOSAL IS 2.4 UNITS.

SO IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THIS AREA PLAN, AS WELL AS A DESIGN OF THE SUBDIVISION THROUGH AGRARIAN THEMED USES AND VIEW FENCING.

IT MEETS THE DESIGN STANDARDS.

AND WITH THAT PLANNING STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH THE STIPULATIONS, AS IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR GENERAL PLAN, OUR SOUTHEAST CHANDLER AREA PLAN A TO BE COMPATIBLE LAND USE WITH THE SURROUNDING, UH, HOMES AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS LEARN.

UM, I KNOW ONE OF THE LETTERS WE'VE GOTTEN IT'S ABOUT, UM, 120 FOURTH STREET.

THAT'S A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO HAVE THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER COME UP AND TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT IN TERMS OF PEOPLE USING THAT ROAD AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT'S NOT A PURVIEW OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, CORRECT? THE STUFF TO THE SOUTH, THE 120 FOURTH STREET, UH, CHAIR HUMAN.

UH, IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY, UM, IS IT YOUR PURVIEW TO, UH, DISCUSS, UH, DESIGN STANDARDS AND DESIGN MODIFICATIONS FOR OUR TRAFFIC AND CIVIL ENGINEERING? UM, RIGHT.

I MEAN, BASICALLY I KNOW ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS PEOPLE GOING DOWN 120 FOURTH STREET AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO, OKAY.

UM, YOU KNOW, PER OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, THE PROPOSED 22 LOTS, UH, WOULD CREATE MINIMUM TRIPS DOWN SOUTH TO 120 FOURTH STREET AND DO NOT SEE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT.

OKAY.

CAN I HAVE THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER COME UP AND TALK ABOUT SEVERAL LETTERS, TALKED ABOUT, I KNOW SOME OF THE PEOPLE ARE GONNA SPEAK TONIGHT ARE PROBABLY GONNA BRING UP SOMETHING THE LAUREN, CAN YOU THROW UP THE MAP A LITTLE BIT BETTER? ONE, ONE OF THE CONCERNS FROM NEIGHBORS IS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS ON A CHANNEL HEIGHTS BOULEVARD.

WOULD THAT CAN, IN YOUR OPINION, AS AN ENGINEER, THIS, I WOULD THINK THAT, IS IT A SAFETY ISSUE? WHAT'S THE ISSUE ON NOT BEING ABLE TO GET THERE? YES.

THANK YOU, COMMISSION FOR, LET ME COME AND SPEAK ON THIS.

UM, IN FACT, I THINK THE FIRST, UM, ITERATION THAT WE SAW ACTUALLY HAD ACCESS ON CHANDLER HEIGHTS, CORRECT FORM.

UM, AND ONE OF OUR COMMENTS WAS TO ELIMINATE THAT INTO DO IT ONTO ONE 24TH STREET DIRECTLY.

FOR THAT VERY REASON, IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.

WE TRY TO MINIMIZE, UH, DRIVEWAYS ON ARTERIALS DIRECTLY ONTO OUR MATERIALS WHERE WE CAN, AND ESPECIALLY ON THIS LOT HERE, IT HAS FRONTAGE ALONG ONE 24TH, WHICH ALREADY DOES HAVE AN EXISTING SIGNAL.

SO IT'S A PERFECT LOCATION TO UTILIZE THAT COLLECTOR STREET FRONTAGE TO, TO TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, FUNNEL TRAFFIC OUT ONTO THE MAIN ARTERIAL.

AND AGAIN, WITH THE SIGNAL THERE, IT MAKES IT, YOU KNOW, HAVE, YOU KNOW, SAFER TURNING MOVEMENTS AND DEDICATED TURNING MOVEMENTS IN YOUR OPINION, AND HAVING A SCHOOL RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, BUT IT ENDANGER STUDENTS BY HAVING ACCESS GOING OUT ON A ONE 20 I'M GOING OUT ON THE CHANNEL HEIGHTS.

UM, IT DEFINITELY IS GOING TO PRESENT A CHALLENGE WITH THE SCHOOL ACROSS THE STREET, IN THE BUS PICKUP THERE, IF THERE WERE TO BE, UM, ACCESS DIRECTLY ON TO CHANDLER HEIGHTS, UM, IT'LL BE A COMBINATION OF SAFETY, BOTH FOR

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OKAY.

OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER? OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR LAUREN? UH, I'VE GOT TO THROW THE CHAIR.

I'VE GOT A QUESTION FROM LAUREN.

UM, DO YOU KNOW INITIALLY WHY THE COUNCIL DECIDED TO PUSH THIS OFF, PUT OFF, PUT OFF THE 104TH STREET IMPROVEMENTS, UH, THROUGH THE CHAIR, UH, COMMISSIONER MORGAN, UM, BECAUSE OF THE SUBDIVISION, WASN'T ACCESSING 124 STREET BECAUSE, UH, THE EAST SIDE OF THE STREET WASN'T, UM, WITHIN THE CITY BOUNDARY NOR IMPROVE THE, WE WOULD REQUIRE THAT, UM, A FULL TO DRIVE, UH, BE IMPROVED.

SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO OFFSET IT ONTO THE TREE LAND PROPERTY AND, YOU KNOW, CREATE MORE OF A BURDEN ON THAT SUBDIVISION.

UH, SO, YOU KNOW, THE SUBDIVISION DECIDED TO ACCESS, UM, 120 SECOND STREET BECAUSE, UM, THERE WAS A PRIOR SUBDIVISION THAT CAME IN AT THE INTERSECTION, UM, THAT ALREADY IMPROVED THE OTHER SIDE.

UH, BUT COUNSELOR COUNSEL, UM, DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF CONCERNS FROM THE RESIDENCE TO THE SOUTH.

UM, AND SINCE, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE FULL RIGHT OF WAY OF 120 FOURTH STREET AT THAT TIME, WE WOULD HAVE TO OFFSET IT.

AND SO IF THE SIDE DID COME IN, IT WOULD, IT WOULD CREATE, UH, A SKEWED TYPE ROAD.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM LAWN? THANK YOU.

THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

GOOD EVENING.

CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION BRENNAN.

RAY CAN 50 NORTH CENTRAL HERE ON BEHALF OF KEYSTONE HOMES.

UM, IF YOU'RE UNFAMILIAR WITH KEYSTONE HOMES, SORRY, THIS WAS A LITTLE CROOKED.

UM, KEYSTONE HOMES IS A PHOENIX BASED FAMILY OWNED BUSINESS.

THAT'S BEEN DOING A HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENTS THROUGHOUT THE VALLEY FOR OVER 30 YEARS HERE IN THE CITY OF CHANDLER.

THEY ENJOYED A RICH HISTORY, RECENT DEVELOPMENTS THAT THEY'VE DONE THAT ARE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU, UH, WAS CANOPY LANE OVER OFF OF DOBSON, NORTH OF JERMAINE, UH, AND MADISON PARK, WHICH IS ON PACO, UH, EAST OF MCQUEEN.

UM, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT THEY DID ALONG OTO, UH, ARIZONA COUNTRY, UH, THAT IS STILL CONSIDERED A HIGH HIGH-QUALITY COMMUNITY.

AND SO IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THEM, UM, THEY ARE IN TERMS OF QUALITY IN TERMS OF THOUGHTFULNESS IN DESIGN, THEY ARE TOPS IN THE BUSINESS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, UM, WE, UH, AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT STAFF HAS SAID IN THEIR PRESENTATION.

UH, I CAN GO THROUGH AT MY OWN PRESENTATION, I'VE PREPARED, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD ADD TOO MUCH IN TERMS OF THE DESIGN DETAILS.

UM, THE LAYOUT THAT LAUREN AND STAFF HAS PRESENTED NOT ONLY IN THEIR MEMO, BUT HERE TONIGHT.

AND SO UNLESS YOU'D LIKE ME TO BE LONG WINDED, I SHALL CUT, KEEP MY REMARKS VERY SHORT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE THOUGH, BEFORE, UM, LISTENING TO ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS YOU HAVE IS, UM, WE REACHED OUT VERY EARLY ON, UH, TO OUR NEIGHBOR IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF US, THERESA STOLL.

AND I KNOW SHE'S HERE TONIGHT.

UM, THROUGH THE TREE LINE CASE, WE HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH HER AND WITH MR. MCALLISTER, UH, AS WELL.

AND SO SHORTLY AFTER FILING THIS CASE, WE SAT DOWN ON THEIR BACK PATIO, UM, TERESA ANN ANDY'S BACK PROV PATIO, AND SAT DOWN AND HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THEM ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AND THOSE DISCUSSIONS HAVE CONTINUED AND WE'VE CONTINUED TO ENJOY, UH, EVEN THOUGH WE MIGHT DISAGREE ON A MEANS AND OUTCOMES, THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THEM HAVE BEEN VERY CORDIAL AND VERY PROFESSIONAL, AND WE'RE APPRECIATIVE OF THEIR WILLINGNESS TO TALK WITH US AND KEEP VISITING WITH US ABOUT THIS.

UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, AGAIN, THERE'S NOT TOO MUCH MORE THAT I CAN ADD.

UH, WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN CONSISTENT WITH C CAP.

IT'S A 22 LOT SINGLE STORY, UH, SUBDIVISION, UH, AND KEYSTONES EXCITED TO BUILD IT.

AND SO WITH THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE, UH, AND CERTAINLY CHAIR, UH, LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL IF NECESSARY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF SPEAKER CARDS.

YOU CAN COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS THE RECORD, AND THEN CLERK COULD BE, YOU COULD SET THE TIMER FOR THREE MINUTES.

IT WILL BE GREAT.

KEVIN MCALLISTER IS THE FIRST ONE.

I HAVE KEN MCALLISTER, UH, 24, 2 0 6 SOUTH ONE 24TH STREET.

IF I MAY, UM, CHAIRMAN HUMAN, UM, IF I CAN HAVE SIX AND A HALF MINUTES AS THERE'S GOING TO BE TWO OTHER SPEAKERS AND THEY WILL TAKE LESS THAN THE OTHER SIX AND A HALF MINUTES, UM, TO GIVE US A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES PER THAT I ONLY HAVE TWO SPEAKER CARDS.

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THEN THE OTHER PERSON WILL ONLY TAKE A COUPLE OF MINUTES.

IF YOU HAVE A SPEAKER CARD YOU NEED TO TURN TO THEN PLACE.

I CAN.

I'LL GIVE YOU A SEC.

I'LL GIVE YOU IF YOU CAN SET THE TIME.

JOEL, IF YOU CAN SET THE TIMER FOR SIX MINUTES, THAT'S FINE.

I'LL GIVE KEN SIX PHONE.

THANK YOU, SIR.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

CHAIRMAN HUMAN AND PLANNING IS ONLY COMMISSION.

WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS FIRST SUBMITTED TO THE STAFF, AS YOU HEARD TONIGHT, THE, UH, INITIAL DESIGN, IT HAD THE INGRESS EGRESS ON CHANDLER HEIGHTS.

ALONG, ALONG WITH THE SCHOOL BUS, STOP, DROP OFF AND PICK UP LOCATION.

WE KNOW THAT WHEN CHANDLER HEIGHTS HAS IMPROVED, IT WILL GENERATE MORE TRAFFIC AND MORE PEOPLE DRIVING FASTER THAN THE CURRENT SITUATION.

CURRENTLY, THERE ARE SEVERAL BUSES THAT CROSS OVER THE ONCOMING SINGLE LANE TRAFFIC TO ENTER AND EXIT THE SCHOOL WITH SEVERAL OF THEM DOING THIS IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

DURING THE TWO MORNING START TIMES, AND THE TWO ENDING START ENDING TIMES AT THE SCHOOL.

I HAVE WATCHED THIS OVER SEVERAL DAYS, COUNTING AND WATCHING THE BUSES AND WATCHING THE PATTERN THAT THEY TAKE WHEN CHANDLER HEIGHTS IS WIDENED, THERE WILL BE TWO OR THREE LANES EACH DIRECTION CURRENTLY TO THE WEST.

THERE ARE THREE LANES.

THIS WILL THEN REQUIRE THE BUSES TO CROSS OVER MORE LANES OF TRAFFIC DOUBLING OR TRIPLING THE PROBABILITY OF AN ACCIDENT THAN THE CURRENT SITUATION.

IF THERE WAS A SINGLE INTERSECTION WITH A DEDICATED LIGHT FOR LEFT TURN ONTO THE SCHOOL AND EXITING THE SCHOOL, THIS WOULD INCREASE THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN WHO ARE AGAINST THAT.

STAFF IS SAYING THAT BY PUTTING A SIGNAL THERE AND HAVING THE AGGRESSIVE EGRESS FROM THIS HAZELWOOD DEVELOPMENT WOULD DECREASE SAFETY.

THIS IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE.

STAFF IS ALSO SAYING THAT THE SIGNAL WOULD BE TO CLOSE AGAIN.

HAVE YOU DRIVEN DOWN DRIVEN SOUTH ON GILBERT BY THE NEW HIGH SCHOOL? HOW MANY LIGHTS ARE THERE? HOW CLOSE ARE THEY TOGETHER? STAFF WALLS.

SO SAY THAT THERE IS NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR A DECELERATION LANE BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF HOMES I SAY.

SO WHAT FOR MY PREVIOUS INTERACTIONS WITH STAFF IN THE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER OVER THE RYAN PROJECT THAT NOW HOUSES THE AMAZON DISTRIBUTION CENTER, THAT IF I MIGHT ADD, WE WERE TOLD BY STAFF THAT AMAZON WAS NOT GOING IN THERE.

AND IT IS THERE.

THE SIGNAL ON MCQUEEN WAS GOING THE SIGNAL ON MCQUEEN.

GOING INTO THAT FACILITY.

WE WERE TOLD THAT CURRENT TRAFFIC AND CALCULATIONS DID NOT WARRANT A CONTROL SIGNAL AT THAT LOCATION.

WELL, GUESS WHAT? THERE IS ONE THERE.

NOW WE ALSO REQUESTED A NORTH ENTRANCE TO THAT FACILITY TO REMOVE THE SOUTH END AND TO REMOVE A SOUTH ENTRANCE.

AGAIN, WE WERE TOLD BY STAFF THAT THAT WAS NOT AN OPTION.

AND THEN, AND THAT WOULD NEVER GET APPROVED.

GUESS WHAT? THERE IS THERE NOW.

YES.

AN INGRESS EGRESS FOR AMAZON.

SO IF THEY WERE WRONG ABOUT THESE, THEY CAN BE WRONG ABOUT THIS.

ONE.

ALSO THINK ABOUT ALL THE SCHOOLS IN THE CITY FOR A MOMENT.

ARE THERE ANY THAT ARE ON OUR TERRORS STREETS THAT THE BUSES CROSS TRAFFIC THAT DOES NOT HAVE A TRAFFIC CONTROL CONTROL SIGNAL TO HELP THEM ENTER AND EXIT SAFELY? NO, THERE ARE NONE.

SO PLEASE DO NOT LET THIS START.

NOW.

THERE ARE, THERE WERE 18 RESIDENTS AT THIS COMMUNITY MEETING AND ALL OPPOSE THE AGGRESSIVE EGRESS ON 1 24 AND WANT TO MOVE TO CHANDLER HEIGHTS, WHICH IS AN OPPOSITION TO THIS HOUSING PROJECT.

SO STAFF CANNOT SAY THEY RECEIVED NO OPTION OPPOSITION TO THIS HOUSING PROJECT.

BY HAVING THE INGRESS EGRESS ON ONE 24TH, CAUSING AND CAUSES AN UNDUE BURDEN ON THE RESIDENTS OF THIS AREA, THE COUNTY DOES NOT MAINTAIN THESE ROADS AND WE HAVE TO DO IT AS A COMMUNITY ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

SOME OF US BROUGHT IN 35 TRUCK LOADS OF MILLED ASPHALT ON THE ROAD.

THIS COSTS $300 FOR EACH HOMEOWNER TO HAVE THIS DONE IN FRONT OF THEIR HOMES.

IT IS ALREADY, AND IT ALREADY NEEDS TO BE DONE AGAIN BY WIDENING AND IMPROVING ONE 24TH.

THEY WILL GUIDE MORE TRAFFIC DOWN THE DIRT ROADS.

RANDOM PEOPLE WILL NOW TURN DOWN 1 24 THINKING THAT IS A THROUGH STREET TO FIND OUT IT DUMPS ONTO A DIRT ROAD.

WE CONTINUE TO GET PEOPLE THAT JUST CUT THROUGH DRIVING WAY TOO FAST.

KEVIN MAYO KNOWS THIS TO BE TRUE WHILE MAKING HIS VISIT ON ONE 22ND.

WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE TREE LAND PROJECT, KEVIN MADE A VISIT ONLY TO HAVE ANOTHER DRIVER CUTTING THROUGH, PASS HIM ON THE DIRT ROAD WHILE HE WAS DRIVING.

THIS IS NOT MADE UP STUFF IT'S REAL.

AND WE DEAL WITH IT EVERY DAY.

THE DEVELOPER HAS NOT COMPLIED WITH ITEM EIGHT OF THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH IS TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH A PROPERTY SERVED BY THE DITCH.

THAT IS TO WHAT IS TO BE DONE WITH IT.

THEY'VE ONLY HAD A DISCUSSION WITH ONE OWNER.

THERE ARE FIVE OTHER OWNERS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN TALKED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT DITCH.

I'M ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT HAS BEEN TALKING WITH STAFF ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS TO 1 24, SINCE THAT DEVELOPMENT WAS DEFERRED BECAUSE OF THE ISSUE OF THE IRRIGATION DITCH.

THAT'S WHY IT WAS DEFERRED DEVELOPMENT.

THE DEVELOPER STILL TO THIS DAY HAS NOT GOTTEN PERMISSION TO MOVE OR DO ANYTHING WITH THE CURRENT DITCH, WHICH IS A RECORDED EASEMENT.

THIS IS IN THE MIDDLE OF WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO TURN INTO 1 24, NOT A SINGLE PERSON HAS GIVEN PERMISSION.

THE CITY SAYS THAT THEY ARE NOT

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SO THERE HAS BEEN NO RESOLUTION TO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH OUR PRIVATE PROPERTY OF THE DITCH ON 1 24.

SO AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, YOU CANNOT APPROVE THIS PRELIMINARY PLANNING, GOOD FAITH WITH INGRESS EGRESS ONTO ONE 24TH, WITHOUT PERMISSION TO MOVE THE DITCH.

I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON THE MOTION OF THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE PRELIMINARY PLAT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS AS THE SPEAKER SENDING ATTORNEY, WILL YOU ADDRESS THE ISSUE ON THE EASEMENTS? IS THAT NOT A PRIVATE PROPERTY ISSUE BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE RESIDENTS? NOT THE CITY SURE.

THROUGH THE CHAIR.

UM, SO THE RESIDENT HAS BROUGHT UP A NUMBER OF CONCERNS, UH, SOME REGARDING TRAFFIC ENGINEERING DECISIONS AND ALSO THIS ISSUE OF IT IRRIGATION DITCH.

UM, THAT'S MOSTLY CONTROLLED, CONTROLLED BY STATE LAW, UM, STATUTORY AND OR CASE LAW.

UM, BUT THE, THE CITY HAS DESIGN STANDARDS THAT REQUIRE DITCHES TO BE MOVED OUT OF THE RIGHT OF WAY.

AND SO THE CITY CAN REQUIRE THAT MOVEMENT TO TAKE PLACE.

UM, BUT IT IS UP TO PROPERTY OWNERS TO CONTINUE TO, UH, SERVE DOWNFIELD, UH, DOWNSTREAM PROPERTIES.

SO TO THE EXTENT THAT THE DEVELOPER IS MAKING CHANGES BECAUSE OF CITY REQUIREMENTS, THEY CANNOT DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD PREVENT DOWNSTREAM USERS FROM GETTING THEIR WATER.

AS LONG AS THAT IS MAINTAINED.

I DON'T THINK IT'S AN ISSUE AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY REGULATES.

SO THAT'S BETWEEN PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS.

UH, THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THAT DITCH TO THE STANDARDS BEFORE IT WAS MOVED.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

I THINK IT DOES.

OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT AND STUFF.

SO THANKS.

ANY QUESTIONS? I MEAN, KOSHER.

YEAH.

MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU.

UM, I GUESS A QUESTION FOR, UM, THE PLANNING STAFF AND DANA AND TRAFFIC, UM, WAS THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL FOR THIS SITE.

CAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT ORIGINAL PROPOSAL.

WAS IT STIPULATING ON TRAFFIC SIGNAL LIGHT AT THAT BUS STOP ALIGNMENT? WAS IT A RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT MR. MCALLISTER? THANK YOU.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER? NOPE.

OKAY.

JUST FOR STAFF.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSION.

UM, AND COMMISSIONER BASQUEZ YES.

UH, THE ORIGINAL ONE DID NOT HAVE A STIPULATION FOR A TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE.

IT WAS JUST, I DON'T BELIEVE IT ALIGNS THE ORIGINAL ONE WITH THE CURRENT BUS SPACE.

SO AS IT CAME INTO US, IT WOULD BE A RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT ONLY THE ONLY WAY THAT WE WOULD ENTERTAIN SOMETHING ELSE IS, IS IF IT ALIGNED.

BUT AGAIN, IN THIS SITUATION WITH IT BEING THE SCHOOL, SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T RECOMMEND AND THEY DO HAVE ACCESS TO THE COLLECTOR.

SO THAT'S KINDA HOW WE GOT WHERE WE ARE, BUT THERE WERE NO, THERE WAS NO TRAFFIC LIGHT WITH THAT ORIGINAL DRIVEWAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU THROUGH THE CHAIR.

UM, A QUESTION FOR THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

ANOTHER QUESTION, I'M SORRY.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO WITH THE NEW CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT ALONG CHANDLER HEIGHTS, YOU, YOU, UM, PERHAPS HAD MENTIONED THAT THERE'LL BE A MEDIAN IN THE ROADWAY.

WILL THERE BE A MEDIAN THAT WILL PROHIBIT THOSE BUSES FROM TAKING A LEFT TURN SOUTHBOUND, LEFT TURN OUT, OR WILL THERE BE A MEDIAN OPENING AT THAT LOCATION FOR THE BUSES TO BE ABLE TO GO EAST OUT OF THE SCHOOL COMMISSION? THERE WILL BE A MEDIAN OPENING AT THAT LOCATION FOR THE BUSES TO BE ABLE TO MAKE FULL MOVEMENTS.

SO IT'LL BE A LEFT END AND A LEFT OUT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YUP.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

I HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER CARD.

UM, TERESA STALL.

I APOLOGIZE IF I DIDN'T READ YOUR LAST NAME CORRECTLY, BUT YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

OKAY.

UM, MY NAME IS TERESA MARTINEZ STILL.

UM, MY ADDRESS 2 3 8 1 5 SOUTH 124TH STREET, CHANDLER 8 5 2 4 9.

UM, I'M HERE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MY HUSBAND AND I, ANDY STROLL.

UM, WE HAVE PROPERTIES THAT ARE PROBABLY BEING MOST EFFECTED.

UM, WE ARE GETTING AFFECTED FROM HAZELWOOD ON OUR OTHER SIDE, AS WELL AS THE TREE FARM ON THE, UM, WEST SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY.

UM, MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE TALKED OVER THIS MANY, MANY TIMES GOING THROUGH THINGS.

UM, STILL WE DO OPPOSE THE INGRESS EGRESS OFF 124 STREET.

UM, WE'RE ASKING THAT THE CITY ENGINEERING, PLEASE REVIEW THIS AGAIN, THAT THE ENTRANCE DOES COME OFF OF CHANDLER HEIGHTS.

WE'VE SAT THERE FOR MANY YEARS.

UM, RECENTLY

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I HAVE SEMIS PARKED ON 120 FOURTH STREET TODAY.

I CALLED THE CITY OF CHANDLER.

I HAD VEHICLES PARKED OUT ON MY PRIVATE DRIVE ON MY PERSONAL PROPERTY, TRYING TO WORK ON THE, UM, TREE FARM PROJECT.

AND THEY'RE USING MY PERSONAL, I HAVE PEOPLE GOING 150 MILES AN HOUR.

I HAD STANDING OUTSIDE THERE.

I HAD A NEIGHBOR MERELY GET HIT BY INCHES BY PEOPLE FLYING UP AND DOWN 120 FOURTH STREET.

SO I'M TALKING SAFETY OF KIDS.

I'VE WATCHED KIDS TRY TO RIDE THEIR BIKES DOWN 120 FOURTH STREET.

AND MULTIPLE TIMES I'M THINKING WHO'S GOING TO GO TELL THEIR PARENTS, THEIR KID JUST GOT KILLED.

AND THAT IS NO JOKE.

UM, MAJORITY OF OUR CONCERNS ARE OF COURSE, ON 120 FOURTH STREET AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ROAD THERE.

UM, THE CITY, UM, PROPOSED A PERMIT PRELIMINARY, I GUESS, DEVELOPMENT PLAN OF WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO WITH THE TRAFFIC ON 124 STREET.

UNFORTUNATELY, UM, WHEN THEY PRESENTED THAT TO ME, MY DAD HAD JUST PASSED AWAY LAST WEEK.

SO I SPECIFICALLY TOLD THEM AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I CAN NOT TAKE THE TIME TO LOOK AT IT, REVIEW IT, APPROVE IT ANYTHING.

SO I'M ASKING THAT AGAIN, WE DELAY THE TIME.

SO WE HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT THOSE PROJECTS, UM, THAT THEY ARE SUGGESTING, LIKE I SAID, AGAIN, IT IS, THEY'RE WANTING TO OPEN UP 124 STREET AGAIN.

YES.

THE PROPER WHERE THEY'RE WANTING TO DIVERT THE ROAD IS BACK INTO MY EASEMENT, WHICH IS DEVELOPING MORE TRAFFIC INTO THAT EASEMENT.

IT IS A UTILITY EASEMENT FOR, UM, THE POWER POLES.

UM, AGAIN, IT WAS JUST A, AN, ANOTHER THING WAS, DID THE CITY, HAS ANYBODY GOTTEN APPROVAL? AND YOU GUYS MAY HAVE ANSWERED THAT QUESTION ABOUT THE DITCH ON THE WEST SIDE, UM, ALONG TREE LAND.

UM, DURING THE CONVERSATION I KNOW SOMEBODY HAD MENTIONED TO ME ABOUT RELOCATING AND REMOVING AN ELECTRICAL POLE THAT IS ON MY PROPERTY, WHICH IS ON COUNTY ISLAND.

AND NOBODY HAS APPROACHED ME, SPOKEN TO ME, HAD COMMUNICATION WITH ME ABOUT THAT AT ALL, ABOUT COMING ONTO MY PROPERTY.

UM, IT IS CONSIDERED A DEAD END.

THE CITY HAS THE DEAD END SIGN STILL THERE IN THEIR PROJECT.

THEY SHOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO RELOCATE THAT DEAD INSIDE BECAUSE IT IS A DEAD END ROAD OR IT'S NOT A ROAD IT'S A DEAD END PROPERTY.

UM, WELL, I I'VE GOT SOME THINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS LISTENING TO HAZELWOOD, UM, CURRENT FENCE FOR THEM TO PUT THEIR PROJECT IN.

THEY'RE REQUESTING TO REMOVE MY FENCE, MY POWER, MY, UH, PIPING FENCING, WHICH IS THE VIEW THAT EVERYBODY SAYS THEY WANT OUT IN THE COUNTRY TO REPLACE IT WITH A SOLID FENCE.

AGAIN, THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT UP WITH NOT JUST ME, BUT TWO OTHER, UH, HOMEOWNERS THAT BORDER, THAT LINE, UM, THE EXISTING DITCH THAT RUNS ON THE NORTH SOUTH SIDE WHEN IT'S NORTH AND SOUTH, WHICH SERVICES MY PROPERTY.

UM, IT ALSO SERVICES ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE OTHER HOMEOWNERS TO THE SOUTH OF US.

UM, HAS ANYBODY GOTTEN OR SPOKEN TO ANY OF THE OTHER HOMEOWNERS WHETHER TO PUT IT UNDERGROUND OR KEEP IT ABOVE AGAIN? THAT'S ALL ON COUNTY ISLAND.

I ALSO SUGGESTED THAT LOTS ONE THROUGH EIGHT, UM, HAVE NO, UH, NEW RANCH, A HOMES BEING BUILT ON THOSE LOTS BECAUSE NOW NOT ONLY AM I GETTING A HUGE BLOCK FENCE BLOCKING ME ON, I HAVE THESE HUGE, UM, HOMES THAT ARE GOING TO BE ELEVATIONS, BE LOOKING OVER INTO MY BACKYARD.

UM, WE ALSO SPOKE ABOUT THE DISTANCE FROM THE HOMES TO THEIR BAT BACK FENCE LINE.

UM, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES THAT UNFORTUNATELY JUST HAVE NOT YET BEEN REVIEWED, DISCUSSED, OR COME TO AGREEMENTS ON 120 FOURTH STREET, I THINK AT THIS POINT IN

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UM, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A BETTER COMMUNICATION WITH EVERYBODY.

I KNOW, UM, BRANDON SAYS WE'VE HAD SEVERAL COMMUNICATIONS.

WE DID SPEAK ONCE AT MY HOME, BUT I THINK THAT DIALOGUE NEEDS TO BE BROADENED MUCH MORE WITH ALSO THE CITY AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPER.

UM, CAN I ASK YOU TO PLEASE WRAP UP? I GAVE MR. MCALLISTER EXTRA TIME CAUSE I THOUGHT EVERYBODY ELSE WAS GOING TO TAKE THREE MINUTES.

I APPRECIATE IT.

WELL, I'M NOT AT THREE MINUTES, BUT ANYWAYS.

OKAY.

UM, AND I, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY DON'T PLEASE DON'T LAUGH AT ME.

I AM A FIFTH GENERATION CHANDLER NATIVE.

MY HUSBAND'S A FOURTH GENERATION CHANDLER NATIVE.

SO WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, A LOT OF GROWTH IN CHANDLER.

UM, SO I'M JUST ASKING YOU GUYS A CITY COUNCIL.

I'VE HAD FAMILY SIT ON THOSE SEATS TO STOP.

LISTEN, DON'T LAUGH, SHOW US SOME RESPECT, SHOW THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY HERE IN CHANDLER THAT WE'RE A CITY TO BE PROUD OF AND PROVE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT CHANDLER, WE WORKED TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY.

WE WORK WITH THOSE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE AND WE WORK WITH THOSE PEOPLE.

WHO'VE LIVED IN CHANDLER FOR DECADES.

SO AGAIN, I ASK THAT YOU JUST TAKE THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION AND, UM, AT THIS POINT MAYBE WE DELAY APPROVAL UNTIL MORE COMMUNICATION, UM, CAN BE HAD.

THANK YOU.

AND I WAS NOT LAUGHING AT YOU WHEN I MENTIONED THE THREE MINUTES BECAUSE IT PROBABLY WENT CLOSE TO FIVE OR SIX MINUTES.

SO ANY QUESTIONS OF THE SPEAKER? OKAY.

UM, WE'VE GOT TWO MORE CARDS HERE THAT CAME UP.

UM, BRAD PETERS, I THINK IT'S PETERSON.

DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK? I HAD SHARED BEFORE WE HAVE THE RESONANT, COULD I MAKE A REMARK TO THE COMMISSIONED END OF THE PUBLIC? UM, THE BULK OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD SO FAR ARE RELATED TO TRAFFIC AND THOSE DECISIONS BY OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO, UM, REQUIRE THAT THE ENTRANCE BEYOND 120 FOURTH STREET, UM, THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM AND THOSE ARE VALID CONCERNS.

AND IT'S OKAY TO EXPRESS THAT JUST AS A REMINDER, THAT THE PURVIEW OF THE COMMISSION IS AS A RECOMMENDING BODY TO THE COUNCIL, UM, IN SPECIFIC, UH, REGARD TO THE REZONING APPLICATION, THE PDP FOR HOUSING PRODUCT AND SUBDIVISION LAYOUT AND THE PRELIMINARY PLAT.

UM, SO IT'S, IT'S NOT REALLY WITHIN THE COMMISSION'S PURVIEW TO MAKE DECISIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT THE DECISIONS OF THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER, JUST AS A GENERAL DISCUSSION POINT.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT, UH, THAT REMINDER.

OKAY.

APPRECIATE THAT.

YEP.

OKAY.

MR. PETERSON, IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD OF THE GREAT AND CLERK SET THE CLOCK FOR THREE MINUTES AND SINCE I DID GET MISS ALLISTER LONGER AND, UM, THE LAST SPEAKER ALSO SPOKE WAY LONG.

SO I'M GOING TO LIMIT YOUR TIME TO THREE MINUTES, PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

UH, I'M BRAD PETERSON.

I LIVE AT 120 THIRD STREET, WHICH IS JUST SOUTH THIS AREA.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT IN THIS AREA FOR ABOUT 12 YEARS NOW.

UM, WE MOVED OUT TO THIS AREA BECAUSE IT WAS A QUIET AREA AND WE WERE HOPING THAT THAT WOULD STAY THAT WAY.

AND, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO SOME OF, UH, ALL OF MR. MCCALLISTER'S, UH, COMMENTS.

AND ONE SPECIFICALLY THAT I, I DO KNOW IS THAT, UM, THE RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA MAINTAINED STREETS.

I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, ONE GENTLEMAN I'VE SEEN OUT THERE ON HIS TRACTOR.

I TRIED TO GIVE HIM MONEY FOR GAS.

HE WOULDN'T TAKE MONEY FOR GAS FOR ME.

HE'S, HE'S JUST THAT, THAT PROUD OF AN INDIVIDUAL AND HIS, OF HIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

HE, HE LIKES TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

SO, AND THEN ANY, BY MOVING THIS DEVELOPMENT TO HAVE THE, THE ENTRANCE OFF OF 120 THIRD OR 124 SPEED IS GOING TO DO NOTHING BUT DIRECT MORE CARS AND TRAFFIC DOWN THAT, THAT ROAD.

UM, ALSO RIGGS ROAD IS THE SOUTH BORDER.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE A DIRECT ROUTE FROM HUNDRED 24TH DOWN TO RIGGS ROAD.

SO WILL BE A DIRECT ROUTE FROM THE SCHOOL DOWN TO RIGS DOWN TO RIGGS ROAD.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S A HUGE CONCERN FOR TRAFFIC.

THERE'S A SECTION THERE ALONG MRS. UH, MS. SOL'S PROPERTY.

THAT'S ONLY ONE LANE WIDE CURRENTLY.

I MEAN, CURRENTLY, IF YOU'RE IN A PICKUP TRUCK, YOU GOT TO STOP AND LET THE OTHER GUYS COME THROUGH.

THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH, NEARLY ENOUGH ROAD FOR, UH, FOR CARS TO GET BY.

UM, I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH SUMS UP MY COMMENTS.

UM, DEFINITELY I'M OPPOSED TO THE TWO AND A HALF HOMES PER ACRE.

I MEAN, THIS, THESE ARE ALL ACRE PROPERTIES IN THIS AREA AND IT'S, UH, IT'S JUST NOT A GOOD, IT'S NOT A GOOD FIT FOR OUR, FOR OUR COMMUNITY, UM, A HUNDRED, THE, UH, TREE LAND PROPERTY.

UM, IF THEY HAVE ACCESS OFF OF CHANDLER HEIGHTS, THEN I SEE NO REASON WHY WE CAN'T DO THE SAME THING FOR THIS.

THIS NEW DEVELOPER IS TO ALSO HAVE THEIR ACCESS OFF OF CHANNEL HEIGHTS INSTEAD OF 120 FOURTH STREET.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

BRESLIN'S FROM MR. PETERSON.

THANK YOU, SIR.

APPRECIATE IT.

UH, THE NEXT SPEAKER I HAVE IS DAVE SHAPIRO SHAPIRO.

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YES, DAVE SHAPIRO, 1, 2 5 1 5 EAST CHANDLER HEIGHTS ROAD.

UH, I BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY BACK IN 1982, BUILT A HOUSE IN 86, 37 YEARS AGO.

THERE WAS JUST ALL FALBA CORN SHEEP AND ABOUT FOUR OTHER HOMES.

AND I'M SURE WHEN I BUILT THOSE FOUR NEIGHBORS COMPLAINED ABOUT ME MOVING IN THERE, GO SEE RURAL ATMOSPHERE.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY THIS COMMUNITY HAS GROWN FROM THE 28,000 THAT IT WAS WHEN I MOVED HERE AND STARTED TEACHING AT CHANDLER HIGH SCHOOL.

I MEAN, I USED TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY TO PAY CLOSE WITHOUT HAVING TO STOP IF I OVERSLEPT.

UM, AND EVEN GETTING HERE TODAY, TRAFFIC TOOK ABOUT 25 MINUTES.

UH, MY CONCERNS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM THE PEOPLE 120 FOURTH STREET, AND I DO APPRECIATE THEIR CONCERNS.

UH, MY CONCERNS ARE TO THE EAST.

I AM DIRECTLY EAST OF THE PROPERTY.

UH, MY OTHER NEIGHBOR IS AT THE NCAA WRESTLING TOURNAMENT.

HE'S THE WRESTLING COACH HIRED AT CHANDLER HIGH SCHOOL BEFORE I RETIRED FROM THERE.

AND HE HAD SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS.

THERE'S AN IRRIGATION DITCH.

THAT'S TO THE EAST.

WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH IT.

UH, I DO BELIEVE RUN AND YOU MIGHT'VE MENTIONED THAT IT MIGHT BE COVERED IN THE FUTURE, BUT IF IT'S COVERED, HOW DOES THAT GET CLEANED OUT AND WHAT PREVENTS IT FROM OVER FLOWN FLOODING INTO MY NEIGHBORHOOD FAR INTO MY YARD, UH, ALSO MENTIONED A SEVEN FOOT WALL.

IS THAT STILL ON THE TABLE? YES, NO.

SORRY.

YES.

SO THAT WAS WHAT THE DOLL'S CONCERN WAS.

UH, EVERYONE WHO SPOKE ABOUT THE SCHOOL BEING THERE, IT'S A NIGHTMARE TRYING TO GET IT OUT IN MY HOUSE WITH ALL THE BUSES THERE.

UM, I PERSONALLY THINK THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SHOULD MOVE OR THAT BUS PICK UP AND DROP OFF THIS TO THE OTHER SIDE OF WHERE ADAMS IS BACK BEHIND WHERE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD PARK WOULD BE.

BUT THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS ON VIDAZA.

HE IS CONCERNED ON THOSE TWO THINGS.

I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC ON 120 FOURTH STREET.

WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE TWO THINGS.

THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER, ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE YOU'D LIKE TO TALK ON THIS ITEM.

OKAY.

BRENDAN, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME BACK UP AND TALK ABOUT REBUTTAL, THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN COMMISSION.

UH, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS WHICH I WILL NOT COMMENT ON UNLESS YOU SPECIFICALLY ASK ME TO RELATIVE TO TRAFFIC.

I BELIEVE THAT THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER HAS DONE IT, UH, DONE HER JOB AND SHE HAS BEEN HIRED TO DO.

I SOMETIMES THINK I'M A TRAFFIC ENGINEER BECAUSE I DRIVE ALL OVER.

HELL'S HALF ACRE IN MY CAR.

AND I, I THINK I KNOW A LOT, BUT I DON'T WHEN IT COMES TO PROFESSIONAL, UH, INDUSTRY AND TRAINING AND STANDARDS AND WHAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT ONE THING AGAIN.

AND I, I RESPECT WHAT THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY HAS SAID RELATIVE TO IRRIGATION IN THOSE MATTERS, BUT JUST SO THAT IT'S PUBLICLY ON THE RECORD RELATIVE TO THAT, UM, WE KNOW THAT IT IS OUR OBLIGATION, UH, THAT IF THERE ARE EXISTING WATERWAYS LIKE THAT DITCH AND THEIR WATER THAT HAS TO FLOW THROUGH OUR PROPERTY, UH, THAT WE ARE TO CONTINUE THAT HISTORICAL FLOW, UH, OF THE IRRIGATION DITCH.

UH, WE ALSO KNOW THAT, UH, OUR PROPERTY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING AND ENSURING THAT THAT WATER CONTINUES TO FLOW AS IT DOES TODAY.

SO MAINTENANCE OBLIGATIONS WILL BE ON KEYSTONE HOMES IN THE FUTURE HOA.

AND AGAIN, I KNOW THAT'S NOT WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF, OF YOUR DECISION AND THE DISCUSSION DENIED, BUT I WANTED TO PUBLICLY PUT THAT ON THE RECORD, UH, AS WELL RELATIVE TO THAT.

UH, AND THEN THE LAST THING DEALING WITH ENGINEERING AND GRADING AND DRAINAGE.

AND I, I KNOW I'VE GOT AN ENGINEER UP ON THE, ON THE DIOCESE THAT KNOWS THIS AS WELL, BUT, UM, I AM REQUIRED TO RETAIN MY WATER ON MY SIDE.

I'M NOT ALLOWED TO JUST TAKE ANY WATER THAT I HAVE AND DISPERSE IT ON TO OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY.

AND MR. SHAPIRO, WHO I'VE KNOWN A VERY LONG TIME, UM, UH, WE HAVE OBLIGATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT DUMPING EXTRA WATER BLOWING HIM OUT OR ANYTHING ON TO HIS PROPERTY AS WELL.

AND THAT'S PART OF THE, AGAIN, THE CIVIL IMPROVEMENT PROCESS PLAN THAT WE GO THROUGH HERE IN THE CITY, DOING ENGINEERING, CREATING A DRAINAGE PLANS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO AGAIN, I THERE'S MAYBE MORE I COULD SAY, BUT I, I WILL NOT.

UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, I KNOW THAT WHAT IS BEFORE THIS COMMISSION IS A PAD, UH, REQUESTS CHANGE THE LAND USE FOR A, A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION RESIDENTIAL LAND USE.

AND THE PDP IS FOR A HIGH QUALITY SUBDIVISION, 22 LOTS SINGLE STORY.

UM, YOU DON'T SEE THAT VERY OFTEN, UH, IN TERMS OF A LOW VOC COUNT, LET ALONE IT BEING ALL SINGLE STORY HOMES.

AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I KNOW KEYSTONE FELT OR IMPORTANT TO BE

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AND SO WITH THAT, UH, WE WOULD, AGAIN, REQUEST THIS BODY'S RECOMMENDATION, UH, FOR APPROVAL TO THE COUNCIL, UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

MR. RAY, DO YOU HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU? THERE WAS A QUESTION BROUGHT UP ABOUT ONE OF THE ELEVATIONS HAS THAT KIND OF GABLED ROOF THAT REALLY ISN'T GOING TO BE USED, BUT, UM, CAN YOU JUST ADDRESS THAT A LITTLE BIT? IS THAT BECAUSE THERE WAS A CAUSE EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE A SINGLE STORY, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS ONE ELEVATION THAT LIKE POPPED UP, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

YEAH.

THROUGH THE CHAIR.

IF I MAY GIVE ME A MINUTE TO LOCATE THAT PARTICULAR CLAN, UM, I KNOW THAT, UH, AS WE LOOK AT IT, UM, I REMEMBER LAUREN COULD, I KNOW IT WAS ON HER PRESENTATION TOO.

SO, SO THIS IS, THIS IS A PRETTY GOOD SUMMARY OF THE FLOOR PLANS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

YOU CAN SEE THERE THAT OUR MAX HEIGHT IS ACTUALLY 24, 23 FEET, AND THAT IS TO THE TIPPY TOP.

UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR AVERAGE HEIGHT IS 19 FEET AS WE LOOK AT IT.

UM, THERE IS THE NEW RANCH ELEVATION, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S HERE IN FRONT OF YOU.

UM, BUT AGAIN, WITH IT BEING SINGLE STORY, UM, WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S NOBODY PRIVACY CONCERNS.