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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF APRIL 22ND.
UH, CLERK, PLEASE TAKE THE ROLE.
MANHART KEY HERE, MS. STEWART HERE THAT'S MEMBER HARRIS, COUNCIL MEMBER LOPEZ HERE.
OUR INVOCATION TODAY WILL BE, UM, LED BY PASTOR CHRISTINE STOCKTON OR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY VICE MAYOR.
MARK STEWART, PASTOR GRACIOUS GOD.
WE GET SAYINGS FOR MAYOR HARKEY AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ALL WHO WORK FOR THE GOOD OF THE CHANDLER COMMUNITY.
ESPECIALLY DURING THIS TIME OF THE PANDEMIC, I GET THANKS FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP.
AS WE ENTER INTO THIS COUNCIL MEETING, GIVE OUR LEADERS EARS TO HEAR THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY MAY DISCERN WHAT IS BEST FOR CHANDLER KEEPING IN MIND THE NEEDS OF THE MOST VULNERABLE.
WE ASKED THIS, WE ASK YOU TO CONTINUE TO BLESS THIS COMMUNITY AND OUR LIVES TOGETHER.
YEAH, PLEASE JOIN ME IN RECITING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[3. Resolution No. 5467 approving the Airport Master Plan Update for the Chandler Municipal Airport Move City Council pass and adopt Resolution No. 5467 approving the Airport Master Plan Update for the Chandler Municipal Airport. Council Focus Area(s):]
COUNSEL.I DO HAVE SOME SPEAKER CARDS ON THE, UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE THAT ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
IS THERE GOING TO BE ONE PERSON THAT JUST REPRESENTS THIS, SIR? ALL RIGHT.
AND IS THAT GOING TO BE DAVID OR STEVEN? STEVEN? GREAT.
SO WE HAVE A SPEAKER CARD ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.
UM, STEVE, COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, SIR.
UM, I LIVE AT THREE EIGHT, EIGHT FIVE EAST CAROB DRIVE IN GILBERT, ARIZONA, BUT MY BUSINESS CHANDLER SERVICES LOCATED AT 1675 EAST RYAN ROAD, UH, AND CHAMP.
UM, I'M ALSO REPRESENTING, UH, THE TREMOR REPORT COMMISSION AND QUANTUM HELICOPTERS.
MAYOR HARKEY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF.
I'D LIKE TO DRESS YOU TONIGHT ON THE CHANDLER MUNICIPAL AIRPORT MASTER PLAN ON WHICH YOU WILL BE VOTING A LITTLE LATER THIS EVENING, COMPTON ASSOCIATES, THE COMPANY CONTRACTED TO PUT TOGETHER.
THIS PLAN ALONG WITH CITY STAFF HAVE WORKED DILIGENTLY AND GONE OVER AND ABOVE THE REQUIRED WHAT'S REQUIRED TO ENSURE THAT MANY DIFFERENT GROUPS HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW AND HAVE INPUT ON THIS PLANT.
THESE GROUPS INCLUDE BUSINESSES ON AND AROUND THE AIRPORT STAKEHOLDERS AT THE AIRPORT CHANDLER CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AROUND THE AIRPORT, CITY PLANNERS FROM BOTH THE CITY OF CHANDLER AND TOWN OF GILBERT WHO'S.
UM, AEROSPACE IS AFFECTED AROUND WITH OUR AIRPORT, ALSO THE FAA AND TENANTS OF THE AIRPORT.
AND IN FACT, MANY OF THESE GROUPS HAVE MADE SUGGESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THIS PLANT.
I MYSELF HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN ADVISOR COMMITTEE, AND I AM CONVINCED THAT THIS IS A GOOD PLAN, A SOLID PLAN, AND A PLAN THAT WILL DRIVE THE AIRPORTS POSITIVELY FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE.
WORKING ALONGSIDE COPPIN ASSOCIATES.
UM, AND THE VARIOUS COMMITTEES HAVE BEEN THE AIRPORT ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF ABOUT A YEAR AGO, THERE WAS SOME EVENTS AND CHANGES AT THE AIRPORT.
SOME OF THESE CHANGES INVOLVED CITY MANAGEMENT, GETTING DIRECTLY INVOLVED WITH THE AIRPORT OPERATIONS IN PARTICULAR, JOSHUA WRIGHT, ACTING CITY MANAGER.
AND AT THE TIME AIRPORT ACTING, ACTING AIRPORT MANAGER, STEVEN TURNER, THE CURRENT AIRPORTS, UM, ACTING AIRPORT MANAGER AND RYAN REEVES AIRPORT BUSINESS COORDINATOR ALL BECAME VERY HEAVILY INVOLVED IN OPERATIONS AT THE AIRPORT.
IN THAT TIME, THERE HAVE BEEN MARKED IMPROVEMENTS IN AIRPORT.
OPERATIONS EMAILS HAVE BEEN SENT, RESPONDED TO PHONE CALLS HAVE BEEN RETURNED.
MEETINGS HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED AND PROJECTS THAT HAVE SAT IDLE FOR MONTHS ARE NOW GETTING DONE.
I CAN HONESTLY TELL YOU THAT IN THE PAST YEAR, THERE HAVE BEEN MORE ENTHUSIASM,
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MORE OPTIMISM AND A MORE POSITIVE ATTITUDE THAN I HAVE WITNESSED IN THE PAST 22 YEARS THAT I'VE WORKED AT THE CHANDLER AIRPORT.I STATED A FEW MOMENTS AGO THAT THE CITY, UH, THE AIRPORT AND THE CITY OF CHANDLER'S CO ECONOMY IS IN, IN, IN, IN, AT STAKE HERE AND IN THE FUTURE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I WOULD SIMPLY LIKE TO ASK THAT YOU SUPPORT THIS PLAN.
IT IS A PLAN THAT WILL DEVELOP AND WILL CREATE OPPORTUNITIES AND MAKE NO MISTAKE.
THIS IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ISSUE, AND EVEN IT DESERVES NOTHING LESS THAN YOUR FULL SUPPORT.
[ Consent Agenda Items listed on the Consent Agenda may be enacted by one motion and one vote. If a discussion is required by members of the governing body, the item will be removed from the Consent Agenda for discussion and determination will be made if the item will be considered separately.]
COUNSEL.WE HAVE, AGAIN, I'VE CONSENT AGENDA BEFORE US AND ONE ACTION AT THIS POINT, A MOTION WOULD BE APPROPRIATE OR THE CONSENT AGENDA THERE THAT'S A MEMBER ORLANDO.
WE APPROVE THE CITY COUNCIL, REGULAR MEETING AGENDA AGENDA THURSDAY, APRIL 22ND, 2021 ITEMS ONE THROUGH 37 37.
THERE IS A MOTION SECOND WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS COUNCIL.
ANY, UH, COMMENTS BEFORE WE VOTE SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE.
REMEMBER ELLIS MOTION CARRIES.
[38. Agreement No. PD5-961-3521, Amendment No. 1, with American Traffic Solutions Inc., dba Verra Mobility, for Photo Enforcement Move City Council approve Agreement No. PD5-961-3521, Amendment No. 1, with American Traffic Solutions, Inc., dba Verra Mobility, for photo enforcement, in a combined amount not to exceed $2,500,000, for the period of five years beginning April 1, 2021 through March 31, 2026. Council Focus Area(s):]
ITEM NUMBER 38 IS, UH, UH, PHOTO ENFORCEMENT AT THIS POINT.WE'LL CALL THE, UH, CHIEF UP TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.
I DO HAVE FOUR SPEAKER CARDS TOO FAR AND TWO AGAINST, AND, UM, I'LL DO THE FOREST FIRST.
I'LL DO THE AGAINST SECOND AND THEY HAVE, UH, THREE MINUTES EACH THEN COUNCIL, WE WILL DISCUSS G WELL GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
UM, LAST WEEK I PROVIDED YOU WITH A MEMO IN RESPONSE TO SOME QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD FOLLOWING MY LAST PRESENTATION ON APRIL 5TH.
SO WHAT I LIKE TO DO THE SAME THING, JUST HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THOSE RESPONSES AND ALSO RESPOND TO SOME SUBSEQUENT QUESTIONS THAT I'VE RECEIVED, UH, SINCE I SUBMITTED THAT MEMO.
AND JUST FOR REVIEW, UH, WE PRESENTLY HAVE 12 INTERSECTIONS AND THE CITY, UH, THAT ARE PHOTO ENFORCED AND SOME OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS HAVE MULTIPLE APPROACHES.
SO WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 17 CAMERAS, UM, IN OUR CITY, UH, AT THIS TIME AND ALL THE, ALL THE CAMERAS HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DETECT THE RED LIGHT AND SPEED.
AND THEN EACH APPROACH IS ALSO VERY CLEARLY MARKED WITH A SPEED READER SIGNS AND FEEDBACK SIGNS, AND THEY ARE POSITIONED, UH, AT LEAST 300 FEET FROM THE INTERSECTION TO GIVE ALL MOTORISTS AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO BE WARNED.
AND IT BUYS THAT THEY'RE ENTERING A INTERSECTION THAT IS MONITORED BY PHOTO ENFORCEMENT.
AND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED, I'LL JUST LIKE TO, UH, GO THROUGH RIGHT NOW.
UM, THE PHOTO VIDEO IS RECORDED AND IT'S 20 RECORDED 24 SEVEN.
AND THAT VIDEO IS STORED FOR 30 DAYS BEFORE IT IS PERCHED.
AND THEN ONCE SIDE INFORMATION IS PURGED THAT IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE.
UM, THE OTHER IMPORTANT ASPECT IS THAT VIDEO RECORDINGS MAY ONLY BE RETRIEVED BY CHANDLER POLICE, UH, VEHICLE CRIMES DETECTIVES, OR THE TECHNICIANS FOR THE VENDOR WITH PERMISSION, UH, FROM THE VEHICLE CRIME DETECTIVES.
AND THEN ANYTIME THE VIDEO IS, IS, UM, IS VIEWED OR ACCESSED.
SO WE CAN TRACK, UM, WHO WAS ACCESSING AND VIEWING THAT VIDEO.
UH, THE DATA IS STORED AT A SECURED, UH, UH, LOCATION SITE.
AND THE OTHER QUESTION WAS ASKED ABOUT HOW MANY TIMES A DAY DOES A, ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES, OUR DETECTIVES REVIEW, UH, THE PHOTO OF THE VIOLATIONS.
AND THAT'S ABOUT TWO TO 300 TIMES A DAY.
THEY REVIEW, THEY REVIEW TWO TO 300, UM, UH, VIOLATIONS A DAY.
AND IT TAKES ABOUT A MINUTE AND A HALF TO TWO MINUTES TO, UH, UH, TO VIEW THOSE.
AND THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, WHAT ABOUT CHALLENGES OR THE CHALLENGE WOULD BE THE SAME PROCEDURE AS IF SOMEONE RECEIVED A WRITTEN CITATION, THEY WOULD GO TO COURT AND, UM, AND HAVE THE CHALLENGE THERE.
ANOTHER QUESTION IS IF THE VIOLATOR THEY DOES, TH THEY DON'T RESPOND TO NOTE A NOTICE OF VIOLATION.
THEN WHAT HAPPENS? WE HAVE A CONTRACTED PROCESS SERVING A VENDOR AND THEY MAKE ATTEMPTS TO SERVE THE VIOLATION.
AND IF THE PERSON LIVES OUTSIDE
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THE STATE, AND IF THEY DON'T RESPOND, THEN THERE IS NO THERE'S NO ACTION TAKING.SO IT WAS, THERE WAS NO PROCESS SERVING OUTSIDE OF THE STATE.
NOW, THE QUESTION WAS ASKED ABOUT HOW MANY TIMES WE HAVE REJECTED TICKETS.
SO IN 2020, THAT NUMBER IS 341 TIMES.
AND THAT'S ACTUALLY QUITE A LOW NUMBER BECAUSE OF THE QUALITY INSURANCE THAT'S BUILT IN WITH THE CURRENT VENDOR.
UM, IT IS INFREQUENT THAT A VIOLATION HAS TO BE REJECTED.
ANOTHER QUESTION WAS ASKED ABOUT WHAT FACTORS PLAYED INTO WHERE THESE CAMERAS WERE PLACED AND OBVIOUSLY SAFETY I X AND LOCATIONS, AND JUST SHEER VOLUME.
SO THOSE WERE THE TWO, UH, UH, THE TWO, UH, METRICS THAT WERE USED TO DETERMINE THE PLACEMENT OF THE CAMERAS.
AND THEN EACH MONTH THE VENDOR ALSO RECALIBRATES AND MAKE SURE IS THAT THE CAMERA AND THE SPEED DETECTORS ARE WORKING PROPERLY.
THE TRAFFIC BOARDS, THEIR SPEED READER BOARDS WERE INSTALLED OVER 10 YEARS AGO IN 2007.
AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION HAD TO DO WITH THE COST.
AND I CAN TALK ABOUT THE COST FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, A ONE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE.
AND THAT IS A TOTAL IS $165,000.
AND THAT'S A A HUNDRED PERCENT OFFSET BY THE REVENUE THAT'S RECEIVED WAS THE, UH, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HOW MANY RED LIGHT VIOLATIONS OCCUR A YEAR VERSUS SPEED.
AND THIS CHART JUST HIGHLIGHTS THE NUMBERS.
AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE FLOW.
AND, UM, THE FLOW STARTS WHEN THERE'S A ACTIVATION.
UH, THAT INFORMATION THEN IS, UH, REVIEWED BY THE VENDOR TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PLATE IS LEGIBLE.
THAT INFORMATION IS THEN PASSED TO, UH, OUR POLICE EMPLOYEE.
UM, THEY MATCH UP THE MVD DATE AND MOTOR VEHICLE DEPARTMENT DATA, AND THEY SEND THAT INFORMATION BACK TO THE VENDOR.
THE VENDOR THEN CONFIRMS THE QUALITY OF THE PICTURES, AND THEN THEY SEND THAT BACK TO US ON A SECOND TIME.
AND THAT'S WHEN THE OFFICER, UH, ENSURES THAT THE PICTURE MATCHES IT'S LEGIT LEGIBLE, AND THEN AS CITATION IS ISSUED.
SO ESSENTIALLY THAT IS THE SO, AND AS FAR AS THE IMPACT, UH, WE KNOW, UH, WE VERY WELL KNOW THAT THE, UM, RELATE, UH, RUNNING, UM, IS A MAJOR CAUSE OF LEADING CAUSE OF CRASHES THROUGHOUT URBAN AREAS IN OUR, IN OUR COUNTRY, INCLUDING RIGHT HERE IN THE VALLEY AND IN OUR CITY.
AND WE ARE LEVERAGING TECHNOLOGY THAT ALLOWS US TO HELP KEEP OUR ROADWAY SAFE.
AND IT DOES NOT REPLACE AN OFFICER.
THIS TECHNOLOGY AUGMENTS OUR STAFF BY PROVIDING 24 SEVEN, UM, COVERAGE IN ESSENCE, IN, AT THOSE PARTICULAR LOCATIONS WHERE REALISTICALLY, WE'D NEVER HAVE AN OFFICER PRESENT, UH, 24 SEVEN AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS.
AND IT'S ALSO A PART OF OUR OVERALL STRATEGY TO ENHANCE, UH, TRAFFIC SAFETY.
AND THAT'S THROUGH ENFORCEMENT EDUCATION AND ENGINEERING, THIS CHART, UM, THE PICS, THE FIVE INTERSECTIONS IN 2016 THAT HAD PHOTO ENFORCEMENT.
AND AT THAT POINT WE REMOVED PHOTO ENFORCEMENT FROM THESE FIVE INTERSECTIONS AND PLACED THOSE CAMERAS AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS BASED ON NEW DATA.
BUT WHAT THIS CHART SHOWS IS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE COLUMN ON THE LEFT, THE RED LIGHT CAMERA ONLY WAS INSTALLED IN, IN YEAR 2000, 2001, THAT FISCAL YEAR, AND FOR SEVEN YEARS IS ONLY RED LIGHT CAMERAS AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS.
AND IN 2008, THEY AUGMENTED THE CA THE INTERSECTION WITH SPEED DETECTION AS WELL.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF COLLISIONS THAT OCCURRED, THEY WERE REDUCED SIGNIFICANTLY WHEN THE SPEED COMPONENT, THE SECOND PART WAS INSTALLED.
AND THEN IN 2016, THOSE CAMERAS WHERE WE MOVED FROM THESE INTERSECTIONS AND PLACED ELSEWHERE.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE THIRD BAR, CLEARLY IN EACH OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS, WE'VE SEEN AN UPTAKE IN OVERALL COLLISIONS.
SO THE TRAJECTORY IS GOING THE WRONG WAY AT THE LOCATION WHERE WE REMOVED THE PHOTO ENFORCEMENT CAMERAS.
BUT ANOTHER ASPECT OF THE PROGRAM, SIGNIFICANT ASPECT THAT'S NOT OFTEN TALKED ABOUT.
UH, BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT IS THAT OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, OUR DETECTIVES HAD UTILIZED VIDEO AND PHOTOS FROM OUR PHONE ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM.
WELL, OVER 150 TIMES IN DIFFERENT CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS, AND JUST IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS, WE'VE COLLECTED COMPELLING EVIDENCE FROM OUR CAMERAS THAT HAVE HELPED, UM, UH, AND PLAYED A SIGNIFICANT ROLE, BRINGING TWO HOMICIDES TO RESOLUTION.
SO, UH, THAT IS AN AREA, AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT,
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UH, BUT IT DOES PLAY A DUAL ROLE DUAL ROLE AND OUR CRIMINAL, UH, INVESTIGATORS DO DEPEND ON OUR PHOTO ENFORCEMENT FOR THEIR EVIDENTIARY GATHERING.SO AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A HIGHLIGHT OF SOME OF THE QUESTIONS FROM, UH, FROM LAST TIME AND SOME OF THE SUBSEQUENT QUESTIONS.
AND, UH, I'D BE HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
YOU MAY HAVE COUNSEL ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF MAYOR.
THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF YOUR PRESENTATION IN FRONT OF ME.
UM, BUT I'LL TRY TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I HADN'T, UM, HOW QUICKLY THAT WENT THROUGH.
YOU HAD MENTIONED THERE WERE 200 TO 300 VIOLATIONS A DAY.
HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE FALSE OR WHAT FALSE, HOW MANY ARE WRONG VIOLATIONS OR PHOTOS EITHER, OR, WELL, I DON'T HAVE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF ACTIVATIONS, BUT CLEARLY WE HAVE, UH, AROUND 12, 13,000 CITATIONS ISSUED AS A RESULT.
BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE THERE, THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF, UM, WHAT THEY CALL CONTROLLABLE OFFENSES, MEANING WHEN THEY LOOK AT THE PHOTO.
INITIALLY THE FIRST TIME THAT THAT PHOTO IS, IS REVIEWED.
UM, AND LAST YEAR, UH, THE VENDOR HAD 2000 JUST OVER 2000, WHAT THEY CALL CONTROLLABLE EXCEPTIONS.
SO THAT OCCURS WHEN THERE IS A, UM, WHEN A FLASH IS TAKEN BY THE FLASH MAY NOT HAVE BEEN STRONG ENOUGH TO PENETRATE THE WINDOW.
AND THE, THE PICTURE ISN'T PARTICULARLY CLEAR.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE VENDOR CONTROLS.
SO THAT HAPPENED 2000 TIMES LAST YEAR, BUT MORE SO WAS THE UNCONTROLLABLE, UM, OR NON-CONTROLLABLE EXCEPTIONS.
AND THAT HAPPENED ABOUT 1100 TIMES LAST YEAR.
AND AGAIN, THAT IS, UM, THAT IS WHEN SOMEONE MAY BE, UH, WEARING A FACE MASK OR, UH, THE PICTURE IS NOT WELL, UH, LEGIBLE, OR THE SUN MAY BE USED TO HEARING.
AND THAT HAPPENED OVER 10,000 TIMES LAST YEAR.
SO BETWEEN THE CONTROLLABLE AND NON-CONTROLLABLE, AGAIN, THAT'S ABOUT 13,000 TIMES LAST YEAR, 12 TO 13,000 TIMES WE HAD IT.
THEY WERE, THIS IS WHAT WAS TAKEN FROM THE, UH, THIS IS WHAT THE PHOTO SAW AND THEY WERE VETTED OUT THROUGH THE PROCESS.
SO NOT EVERY PICTURE IS GOING TO BE PERFECT.
THERE'S WEATHER, THERE'S DECEPTION.
THERE IS A LOT OF VARIABLES THAT INVOLVED.
SO WHETHER IT'S, NON-CONTROL NOT CONTROLLABLE OR CONTROLLABLE, UH, THAT HAPPENED ABOUT 13,000 TIMES LAST YEAR.
AND THAT IS VETTED IN THE FIRST PART OF THE PROCESS BEFORE IT'S PASSED ONTO OUR OFFICERS.
SO THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST TAKEN OUT.
THAT'S NEVER SENT IT'S AUTOMATICALLY MAILED, RIGHT? NO, THE ONLY THING LAST YEAR ABOUT JUST OVER 12,000 VIOLATIONS WERE MALES AFTER IT HAD GONE THROUGH THIS EXTENSIVE VETTING PROCESS.
AND ONLY AFTER OUR OFFICER SIGNS OFF ON THAT CITATION, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME AS IF AN OFFICER PULLS SOMEONE OVER ISSUE THAT IN THE CITATION.
AND THE LAST THING THEY DO IS SIGN THAT CITATION.
THIS HAPPENS IN EXACT SAME WAY THAT OFFICER THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS PROGRAM REVIEWS THAT CITATION AND MAKES SURE IT MEETS ALL OUR STANDARDS BEFORE THAT OFFICER SIGNS THAT CITATION AND APPROVES IT TO BE SENT TO THE VIOLATOR.
YOU MENTIONED THAT, UH, FROM A PROCESS SERVER PERSPECTIVE, REALLY THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE GETTING FINED ARE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE STATE OR THAT LIVE IN THE CITY OF CHANDLER, ANYBODY THAT'S FROM OUT OF TOWN, THAT'S NOT HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
WE WILL SERVE PROCESS WITHIN THE STATE, RIGHT.
UH, BUT WE WILL NOT, WE WILL NOT SERVE PROCESS FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE REGISTERED OUT OF STATE WHO PAYS FOR THAT.
UM, WE PAY UPFRONT OR THE VENDOR PAYS UPFRONT AND THEN, UH, WE ARE CHARGED AND THEN WE THEN CHARGE, WE IMPOSE THAT FINE ON THE VIOLATOR.
I THINK YOU SAID WE PAY IN FRONT AND THEN YOU SAID THE VENDOR PAYS UPFRONT.
AND THEN WE RECOUP THAT, AND THEN WE ARE CHARGED.
AND THEN WE RECOUP THAT FROM THE BUYER LATER.
HOW MUCH IS THAT? YOU SAID IT WAS $20 OR NO SERVINGS A LOT MORE THAN THE $20.
EVERY PICTURE THAT'S TAKEN EVEN OF THE 13,000 THAT ARE, UM, REJECTED.
WE STILL GET CHARGED, RIGHT? NO, NO.
YOU'RE ONLY CHARGED $20 AND 70 CENTS.
WE ARE CHARGED $20 AND 70 CENTS FOR EVERY ACTIONABLE CITATION.
$20 AND 70 CENTS FOR EVERY ACTIONABLE CITATION.
SO A NOTICE OF VIOLATION TO THE EVENT WHEN THAT NOTICE OF VIOLATION IS MAILED TO THE OFFENDER, WE ARE CHARGED AT THAT POINT, AND THAT HAS GONE THROUGH THAT VETTING PROCESS.
DO YOU HAVE AN ENTIRE FTE THAT'S DEDICATED TO VETTING THROUGH THESE, THESE CAMERA TICKETS, WHETHER THE GOOD, BAD OR INDIFFERENT THEY'RE 200 TO 300 OF THOSE A DAY, IS THAT RIGHT? WE HAVE A PERSON THAT'S THAT LOOKS AT THE CITATIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN VETTED THROUGH
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THE VENDOR.AND THEN WHEN HE GETS TO US ABOUT 300 AND SOMETHING TIMES LAST YEAR, THAT OFFICER HAD TO REJECT THOSE FOR A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT REASONS.
AND THEN THE CITATION IS MAILED OUT.
SO YES, THE OFFICER IS THE FINAL STOP.
THE ENSURE THAT IS A VALID CITATION.
UM, SO YOU SAID 341 TIMES THAT THERE WAS THAT'S ALL THAT THE, THE, UM, VENDOR REJECTED FROM THE, FROM THE PROCESS, RIGHT? NO, THE 341 TIMES ALL THE OFFICER REJECTED THE PROCESS.
SO EVERYTHING PRETTY MUCH GETS MAILED OUT UNLESS IT'S LIKE PRETTY EGREGIOUS THAT COMES FROM THE VENDOR.
THE THING THAT GETS MAILED OUT IS WHAT OUR OFFICER APPROVES AND SIGNS HIS NAME TOO.
UM, SO IN YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU, A COUPLE OF YOU SAW THE HANDFUL OF INTERSECTIONS.
NOW YOU ALSO SENT SOME DATA THAT SHOWED LIKE OUR RANKING OF INTERSECTIONS.
WHAT ARE THOSE INTERSECTIONS THAT YOU SHOWED RANK AS FAR AS SAFETY WITHIN THE CITY? THE LAST PRESENTATION? YEAH.
I BELIEVE THERE'S OVER ABOUT 300 INTERSECTIONS IN THE CITY.
AND THOSE WERE RANKED BY TRAFFIC ENGINEERING AS THE, UH, AS THEIR COLLISION RATE.
AND THAT'S HOW THAT WAS DECIDED.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING AS WE REDID THE MCQUEEN AND, UM, QUEEN CREEK INTERSECTION MADE IT WIDER, MADE IT MORE SAFE, BUT WE PUT IN CAMERA LIGHTS ANYWAY, WHY DID WE DO THAT? WELL, ONE OF THE VARIABLES OF HOW WE DECIDE WHERE TO PLACE THE CAMERA, ISN'T JUST THE NUMBER OF COLLISIONS, BUT IT'S ALSO THE COMBINATION WITH THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC.
AND WHEN YOU MAKE THE ROAD BIGGER, THERE ARE MORE VEHICLES THAT WOULD USE IT.
UM, AND SO WHAT'S THE TOTAL FINE THAT, THAT CHANDLER RESIDENT IS FINE WHEN THEY INADVERTENTLY, UH, RUN A RED LIGHT.
BUT WHEN YOU ADD IN ALL THE FEES FOR THE VENDOR THAT WE HAVE TO PAY THE 500 GRAND FOR JUST TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE LIGHTS, ET CETERA.
UM, I JUST HAD A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS.
I JUST, I THINK THE BIGGEST POINT THAT, THAT I WANTED TO, TO HEAR YOU SAY AGAIN, THESE CAMERAS ARE SURVEILLING OUR RESIDENTS AND PEOPLE FROM OUT OF TOWN 24 SEVEN AND A THIRD-PARTY VENDOR IS, IS KEEPING THAT DATA.
IS THAT CORRECT? THESE CAMERAS ARE OPERATING 24 SEVEN AND THEY ARE MONITORING THE TRAFFIC LOCATE, THE 12 INTERSECTIONS.
OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SO COUNCIL MEMBER RO YEAH.
YEAH, JUST A FEW THINGS THAT, UH, AND I WOULD SHARE, UM, PHOTO ENFORCEMENT, VIDEO SURVEILLANCE, UM, FOR, FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT WANT IT.
UM, YOU WON'T HAVE TO HOLD YOUR BREATH BECAUSE IT'S COMING MORE AND MORE EVERY YEAR AND IT'S GOING TO BE MORE AND MORE INTRUSIVE AND MORE AND MORE INTRUSIVE.
AND AT SOME POINT WE'LL BE ABLE TO CONTROL PEOPLE'S CARS AND WE'LL BE, THE SYSTEM WILL STOP YOUR VEHICLE BEFORE YOU GO THROUGH A RED LIGHT AND MAYBE EVEN CONTROL YOUR SPEED.
AND IF I TALK TO SANDY ABOUT TECHNOLOGY, BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT TECHNOLOGY A LOT IN PUBLIC SAFETY, WE DON'T HAVE THIS IN PLACE RIGHT NOW, BUT THE TRUTH IS THERE IS TECHNOLOGY WHERE WE COULD CATCH A SPEEDER ELECTRONICALLY, SEND THEM AN EMAIL, ELECTRONICALLY, WITHDRAW MONEY FROM THEIR BANK ACCOUNT AND SAY, THANK YOU, PLEASE DON'T SPEED AGAIN.
BUT I DON'T THINK PEOPLE WANT THAT.
BUT, BUT WHY NOT? BECAUSE THERE IS A THRESHOLD, THERE IS A POINT WHERE PEOPLE SAY WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT THAT.
THE REASON WE HAVE MARKED ELISE CARS IS BECAUSE THE PUBLIC WANTS A CERTAIN TRUST.
AND THEY, AND, AND OUR PUBLIC SAFETY KNOWS OUR POLICE OFFICERS KNOW THAT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE MARKED POLICE CARS, PERHAPS WE WOULD SOLVE MORE CRIME.
UNDOUBTEDLY WE'D SOLVE MORE CRIMES IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, IF FOLKS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO THINK BACK VERY FAR TO KNOW THAT WE HAD PHOTO ENFORCEMENT UP AND DOWN, OUR INTERSTATES ALL OVER ARIZONA AND OUR STATE LEGISLATURE TOOK THE STEPS TO HAVE IT ALL TAKEN OUT.
AND WHY WAS THAT? A SUCCESS IS BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT IT.
NOW I KNOW SOME PEOPLE STILL WANT IT.
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THERE THERE'S SOME FOLKS THAT WANT IT.BUT I WOULD SAY THAT IT IS PHOTO ENFORCEMENT IS ONE OF THE MOST CONTENTIOUS THINGS, UH, VIOLATIONS.
WHEN PEOPLE GO TO COURT, THEY'RE MORE LIKELY TO FIGHT THAT AND THEY ARE A DUI.
AND IF WE TALK ABOUT THESE INTERSECTIONS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 12 INTERSECTIONS, 17 CAMERAS.
IT'S MY CALCULATION THAT ABOUT TWICE A DAY, ABOUT TWICE A DAY, WE GET A, A SIZABLE OFFENSE RELATED TO A, UH, A RED LIGHT RUNNING PERSON.
SO IT'S ONLY ABOUT TWICE A DAY.
AND, AND IN THAT SAME PERIOD IN A 24 HOUR PERIOD, WE'RE GETTING 30 TO 40,000 CROSSINGS AT THESE INTERSECTIONS.
SO ONCE YOU REALLY DO HAVE IS YOU HAVE A VERY COMPLIANT CITIZENRY THAT DOES FOLLOW THE LAW.
AND THERE ARE SOME THAT DON'T AND WHEN THEY DON'T AND WE CAN SEND THEM A TICKET OR A VIOLATION AND HAVE THEM APPEAR OR PAY A FINE, THOSE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE LAWFUL REGISTERED OWNERS.
IF SOMEONE HAS A STOLEN CAR, THEY WILL NOT BE CITED.
IF THEY HAVE A FICTITIOUS LICENSE PLATE, THEY WON'T BE CITED UNLESS IT'S SO REDUNDANT THAT WE CAN INVESTIGATE THAT AND GET SOMEBODY TO ARREST THEM.
THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY WITH A RED LIGHT CAMERA FOR ANY COMMUNITY RELATIONS.
THERE IS YOU THINK THAT EVERY TIME A POLICE OFFICER MAKES A TRAFFIC STOP, THEY WRITE PEOPLE.
TICKETS OFTENTIMES IT'S HI, HOW ARE YOU? DO YOU KNOW WHY I STOPPED YOU TODAY? AND COULD YOU PROVIDE YOUR IDENTIFICATION, YOUR INSURANCE AND YOUR REGISTRATION.
AND SOMETIMES IT'S AS SIMPLE AS, HEY, WOULD YOU PLEASE SLOW DOWN? THERE IS NO OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT WITH PHOTO ENFORCEMENT, THE GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA, DOUG DEUCEY RECENTLY SIGNED A SB 1551, UH, BILL REGARDING, UH, CIVIL VIOLATIONS, TRAFFIC, CIVIL TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS.
AND THAT WILL BE ADOPTED, I THINK WITHIN 90 DAYS AFTER THE CLOSE OF THE, OF THE SESSION THIS YEAR.
AND THAT IS GOING TO PUT SEVERE LIMITATIONS ON, ON OUR COURTS, IN ENFORCING CIVIL TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS AND GETTING FUNDS COLLECTED AND HAVING FINES PICKED UP.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH REVENUE THE CITY MAY LOSE FROM THAT, BUT I FEEL THAT WE ARE GOING TO ARE, WE ARE GOING TO SUFFER FROM THAT.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN TAKEN INTO, INTO ACCOUNT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WORKING WITH THIS COMPANY, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE MAY END UP PAYING MORE AND, UH, AND, AND LOSING SOME OF THAT REVENUE.
I HAVE TO REMEMBER THEIR QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF.
CAUSE I HAD, I HAD NO QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF.
I HAD MY CONVERSATION AS WELL.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, BUT THIS IS SPECIFICALLY THEIR QUESTION FOR THE CHIEF.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO READ THESE CARDS AND THEN HAVE A GIANT, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT HAS A QUESTION FOR THIS YEAR? UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS? NO.
SO, SO CHIEF, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE.
UM, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE, I WAS ON THE COUNCIL MANY, MANY YEARS AGO AND WE PUT THIS IN PLACE AND I APPROVED THIS SEVERAL TIMES AND YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THE BUSINESS MODEL HERE AND WHY IT MAKES SENSE.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO EXPLAIN THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KEEP HEARING FROM FROM OTHER FOLKS IS THAT THIS TICKET IS GOUGING.
SO IF, IF THE POLICE OFFICER STOPPED AT RESONANT FOR A RED LIGHT VIOLATION IS DEFINED ANY DIFFERENT THAN IF THEY WERE CAUGHT THROUGH PHOTO ENFORCEMENT.
THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I GOT WAS SOMEONE CALLED ME THE OTHER DAY AND SAID, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER, THERE'S A LOT MORE IN CHOOSING THIS AND THIS THING THAN IN THAT CAMERA AND ANYBODY THAT HAS AN ALEXA AT HOME, THERE'S A LOT MORE INCLUSIVENESS IN THAT.
NOW I KNOW WE DECIDED TO DO THIS AND WE SIGN OFF AND WE DO THE SOFTWARE UPDATE.
THERE'S A LITTLE THING ON THERE THAT SAID, WE COULD DO COOKIES AND WE COULD DO THIS.
AND I GET THERE AS A, THERE IS SOME,
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SOME PERSONAL ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, ARE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE INNOVATION.WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT TECHNOLOGY, HELPING US MAKING OUR LIVES BETTER.
AND THIS MAKES OUR, YOU'VE PROVEN THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS CALIBRATION.
I THINK PEOPLE ASK AND I THINK THE JUDGE ISN'T ASSET THAT TIME TO, I KNOW HOW TO PERSON COLOMBIA.
AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THEY HAD IN A COURT CASE, ARE THESE THINGS CALIBRATED NORMALLY ON A PRETTY REGULAR BASIS.
SO EACH MONTH THE VENDOR GOES OUT TO THE INTERSECTIONS AND CALIBRATES THEIR EQUIPMENT.
AND IF THE EQUIPMENT WAS FOUND OUT OF CALIBRATION, WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT TICKET? WELL, IF THE TICKET, IF THE EQUIPMENT'S OUT OF CALIBRATION, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD, UH, CERTAINLY BE APPEALABLE IN COURT.
AND WOULD A GOOD, AND A PERSON WOULD ASK THAT NORMAL QUESTION, THIS PERSON AT LEAST WENT TO COURT, ASKED THAT QUESTION WAS LAST TIME IT WAS CALIBRATED.
AND IT HAPPENED TO BE CALIBRATED BEFORE HE GOT THE TICKETS.
SO I GUESS THE JUDGE HAS NOW, I'M SORRY.
SO I GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS I'LL SAY, BUT I'LL HOLD THOSE OVER.
COUNSEL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF COUNCILMEMBER LOPEZ? SO THE 70 CAMERAS AND, UM, THAT WE HAVE 17, 17, UM, HAVE WE INCREASED THAT NUMBER OVER TIME? I KNOW WE, YOU SHOWED HIM THE GRAPH THAT WE WENT FROM JUST STRAIGHT RED LIGHT CATCHER, AND THEN ADDED THE SPEED 2007 WAS THE LAST TIME WE ADDED CAMERAS.
AND SO IN 2007, WE SAID WE'VE HAD 17 CAMERAS SINCE THEN.
AND, AND THEY'VE ONLY JUST BEEN SHIFTED AROUND TO THE RESPECTIVE, UH, INTERSECTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, DEPICTED BY TRAFFIC TO BE AGAIN, DANGEROUS AND OR HIGH VOLUME.
IS THAT CORRECT? ONLY IN 2016.
THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE MOVED FIVE CAMERAS TO OTHER LOCATIONS.
IS THAT INTENT? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S DONE EVERY SO OFTEN OR IS THAT INTENDED TO BE WE RECALIBRATE THAT, IS THAT IT, OF COURSE FOR YOU OR FOR TRAVELING? WELL, WE LOOK AT, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE, THERE IS A COST TO THAT WITH THE VENDOR AS WELL, BUT WE LOOK AT THE DATA AND IF IT DICTATES, IF IT'S JUST SUPPORTS MOVING IT, THAT LOCATION, WE WOULD DO THAT, KEEP AN EYE ON IT.
BUT IF, AS LONG AS WE'RE WE'RE TARGETING AND THAT THE MAJOR ISSUE, UH, INTERSECTIONS WHERE WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE ON AN EXPENSE TO JUST MOVE ONE OR TWO, WE'RE GOING TO, IT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF A, A SHIFT IF YOU, THAT WE WOULD DO THAT.
SO CHIEF, I'VE GOT A QUESTION BASED ON A COMMENT BY COUNCIL MEMBER ROWE, AND MAYBE WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER YET, MAYBE LEGAL DESK, BUT WITH WHAT HE HAD MENTIONED ABOUT THE GOVERNOR SIGNING SOME BILL WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE IMPACT, UH, UPON THIS SYSTEM ARE, OR IS IT TOO EARLY TO KNOW? I THINK IT'S A VERY PREMATURE RIGHT NOW.
WE SIMPLY DON'T KNOW HOW THINGS WILL PLAY OUT OVER TIME.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE CHAIN? OTHERWISE I'LL COLLEGE SPEAKER SOMETHING NICE, MAN.
WE PAY $500,000 A YEAR, RIGHT? TO ATS.
NO MATTER WHOEVER IT IS, RED FLUX NOW, NO MATTER WHAT, LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE BEHOLDING TO THAT BASED ON THE CONTRACT.
AND THIS CONTRACT IS FOR FIVE MORE YEARS.
SO IF WE, IF THE COUNCIL VOTES, YES.
TONIGHT, NO MATTER WHAT CHANGES WITH CURRENT LAW OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE'RE, WE'RE LOCKED IN FOR $500,000 A YEAR.
WE JUST HAD A BIG MEETING YESTERDAY.
YOU NEED STAFF, RIGHT? YOU NEED PEOPLE.
UM, AND I, AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THIS, THIS AUGMENTS YOUR STAFF, BUT I'VE, I'VE HEARD, YOU'VE GOT ONE FULL-TIME THAT'S WORKING ON THIS EVERY DAY.
UM, THAT THAT PERSON COULD BE DEDICATED DIRECTLY TO TRAFFIC TO WORK ON TROUBLED SPOTS.
AND THEN WE COULD INCREASE OUR RELATIONSHIP BUILDING WITH OUR COMMUNITY, WITH THOSE STOPS.
AND THEN YOU HAVE $500,000 LEFT OVER.
WHAT I SAW FROM YOUR DATA A FEW WEEKS AGO WAS THAT THE NET OVER 10 YEARS WAS $275,000.
AND THAT DIDN'T FACTOR IN A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT COST BENEFITS AND THINGS THAT WASN'T STAFF INCLUDED.
SO OUR STAFF THAT YOU SAID IS $1.6 MILLION OVER 10 YEARS.
SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A COST OF DOING BUSINESS AND I GET THAT, BUT I WOULD RATHER SEE THOSE PEOPLE ON THE STREET.
SO MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS, UM, THAT WAS MORE OF A SPEECH, BUT THIS WILL BE MY QUESTION.
I ASKED EARLIER IN THE WEEK FOR SOME DATA, THE RAW DATA ON THIS.
AND I WAS TOLD BY, UM, STAFF THAT I NEEDED TO GET COUNSEL TO AGREE TO GIVE ME THE RAW DATA.
UM, I DON'T WANT TO DO A FOIL REQUEST OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT I REALLY JUST WANT TO SEE THE RAW DATA TOO, BECAUSE SOME OF THE DATA THAT WE WERE USING, IT WASN'T CONGRUENT WITH WHERE WE HAVE THE LIGHTS.
IT WASN'T, IT DIDN'T MATCH UP TO THE PLACES WHERE YOU WERE SHOWING.
AND I'M NOT SAYING IT WASN'T REAL.
I JUST WANTED TO LOOK AT THE DATA MYSELF.
AND I WAS TOLD THAT FROM TIME AND SOME OTHER THINGS I COULDN'T HAVE THAT CAN, CAN I HAVE THAT DATA, THAT RAW DATA.
AND DOES IT COME FROM THE VENDOR OR DOES IT COME FROM US,
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COME FROM A TRAFFIC ENGINEERING DATA, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT, UH, IT WAS REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE AND THIS SLIDE CONTAINS THE FIVE INTERSECTIONS THAT WERE REMOVED.SO THEY WERE NOT OKAY TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED, WERE LOOKING AT CONTEMPORARY INFORMATION.
AND THESE LOCATIONS WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THAT BECAUSE THEY NO LONGER EXIST.
THESE ARE THE ONES WHERE WE MOVE THE TRACKS 16.
AND SO HOW ARE THOSE TRAFFIC, HOW ARE THOSE DOING NOW? WELL, AS I INDICATED EARLIER, WE'VE HAD AN UPTICK, UH, EACH YEAR, SINCE THEY WERE REMOVED, WE'VE HAD, IS THAT, SO WHEN WERE THE, UM, THE LIGHT, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU DO THE SPEED? UM, WE HAVE THE RADAR WHERE THOSE PUT UP ON THOSE INTERSECTIONS, LIKE THAT WERE ON THE SIDES WITH THE, I THINK, UM, THEY WERE ALL INSTALLED.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ONES THAT ANNOUNCED THEY'RE NOT CAMERA LIGHTS.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT SAY, HEY, YOU'RE GOING CORRECT.
CAUSE I DON'T, IF YOU HAVE THAT, IT'S BEEN OVER 10 YEARS.
CAN I, CAN I JUST GET THE RAW DATA FROM, EXCUSE ME, CAN I GET THE RAW DATA FROM OUR WORK WITH TRAFFIC ENGINEERING? AND, UH, THANK YOU.
CERTAINLY HELP WITH THAT MAYOR.
JUST A QUICK QUESTION, JUST TO FOLLOW UP THE PART OF THE RESOLUTION THAT WE DID BACK THEN, THAT TIME WAS THAT THE MONEY WE END JANUARY WOULD GO TOWARDS SAFETY ISSUES.
THAT CAMERA LIGHTS ARE THE SPEEDING, THAT THE SIGNAL LIGHTS, THAT WAS A PART OF THE, THE INVESTMENT BACK STREET SIGNAGE.
THERE WAS OTHER THINGS WE DID FOR SAFETY.
PERHAPS WE SHOULD BE SHARING THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE DID.
WE'RE PUTTING THIS MONEY BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY FOR SAFETY REASONS.
AND THAT WAS A PART OF THE MOTION AND, AND WHATEVER, WHATEVER REVENUE IS GENERATED ABOVE EXPENSES IS ONLY EARMARKED FOR EITHER POLICE ENFORCEMENT OR TRAFFIC ENGINEERING.
SO WHETHER IT'S THE VARIABLE MESSAGING SIGNS OR IT'S THE PORTABLE RADARS WE PUT IN NEIGHBORHOODS, WHEN WE GET COMPLAINTS, ALL THAT EQUIPMENT HAS BEEN, UH, HELPED FUNDED THROUGH, UH, REVENUE GENERATED FROM THE PROGRAM.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE PUTTING THIS IN OUR POCKET, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE'RE JUST, I MEAN, THIS IS MILLION BEING DISPERSED BACK OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO NOT ONLY YOU GOT A SAFER INTERSECTION, YOU'RE NOW PROVIDING OTHER SAFETY TOOLS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
THAT'S IT'S BEING PAID BY THAT.
SO, JANE, LOOK, I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THIS, BUT SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PERSONNEL, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT ONE PERSON THAT IS ACTUALLY LOOKING AT 12,000 CITATIONS A YEAR, RIGHT? ROUGHLY HOW MANY OFFICERS WOULD THAT TAKE? UH, IT WOULD TAKE QUITE A BIT, BUT I, I KNOW THAT'S MY POINT.
SO REALLY, I MEAN, I GET THAT.
SO WE'RE PUTTING THE MONEY BACK IN THE SAFETY OR PUTTING MORE POLICE OFFICERS ON THE STREET FOR OTHER THINGS THAT THEY COULD BE DOING.
AND WE'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING SAFETY MEASUREMENTS IN THE COMMUNITY AND IT'S NOT COSTING US ANYTHING IT'S CAUSING THE BAD GUY AND GAL THAT ARE BREAKING THE LAW.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
I SUPPORTED THE DEN AND I SUPPORTED IT NOW.
I WISH YOU WOULDN'T REFER TO ME AS THE BAD GUY, UH, OR I'M SORRY, THEIR NUMBERS UP HERE.
I'VE GOTTEN THEM TO MAYOR MAYOR TO BE FAIR.
WE ARE FINDING OUR RESIDENTS AT A RATE AT A VERY HIGH RATE.
AND SO WE SHOULDN'T CALL IT REVENUE, BUT I GET YOUR POINT.
THANKFULLY, FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER AND CURRENT STATE REPRESENTATIVE, JEFF WINEGAR INITIATED THAT WHERE THE MONEY HAD TO BE POURED BACK INTO WE'VE USED IT ACTUALLY TO MAKE BIGGER SIGNS AT THESE INTERSECTIONS.
WE'VE IT'S BEEN SHOWN IN NUMEROUS OCCASIONS THAT THOSE RADAR, UM, SIGNS THAT SHOW YOU HOW FAST YOU'RE GOING, ACTUALLY SLOW PEOPLE DOWN A LITTLE BIT, THESE INTERSECTIONS, AND THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN PUT UP WITH THESE INTERSECTIONS SO THAT I DON'T WANT TO SAY THIS EARLIER, BUT I'LL JUST SAY IT SINCE IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, UM, THAT THOSE THINGS MAY BE A CONTRIBUTOR TO THE LOWER INCIDENTS OF ACCIDENTS AT THOSE LOCATIONS.
IT COULD BE A COMBINATION OF EVERYTHING.
THAT'S THE THING ABOUT THESE RED LIGHT CAMERAS AND THESE SPEED CAMERAS.
WE DON'T KNOW THE DATA CAN BE MANIPULATED IN ANY WAY, WHICH IS THE REASON THAT I WANTED TO GET THE READ THE, UH, THE DATA AT THE END OF THE DAY.
I WOULD RATHER HAVE MORE BODIES ON THE STREETS.
I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO AND THE REST OF COUNCIL, UH, TALKED ABOUT THAT AT AD NAUSEUM YESTERDAY, NOT A NAUSEUM.
WE, WE DID IT BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
UM, BUT WE ARE FLEECING MONEY FROM OUR RESIDENTS WITH AUTOMATED CAMERAS AND, UM, THAT'S NOT REVENUE.
SO AGAIN, COMMENTS TO THE CHIEF WHERE WE'RE NOT IN A DEBATE MODE UP HERE YET, BUT COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON, HOLD TO THAT.
THE REASON WHY I WANTED TO WEIGH IN A LITTLE BIT IS FROM THE PSYCHOLOGICAL POINT OF VIEW OF KNOWING THAT YOU HAVE, UM, A CAMERA IN THAT CORNER COMING
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FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW FOR ME, I THINK IT'S ALL ABOUT A SAFETY ISSUES.PEOPLE'S BEHAVIORS ARE CHANGED BASED ON THE THINGS THAT THEY EXPECT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THEM.
UM, ANYTIME WE WANT BEHAVIOR TO CHANGE, WE HAVE TO MODIFY THAT BEHAVIOR IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
AND TO ME, A PHOTO CAMERA STANDING IN A CORNER AT SOME TO FIRE, IT MODIFIED THAT BEHAVIOR BECAUSE WHEN YOU COME IN CLOSE TO IT, YOUR GPS IS TELLING YOU APPROACHING HOW CAMERA AUTOMATICALLY USEFUL DOWN.
UH, I W I WILL FULL DISCLOSURE.
I PROBABLY WAS ONE OF THOSE BAD ACTORS THAT YOU MENTIONED.
HOWEVER, BECAUSE IT HAPPENED TO ME A COUPLE OF TIMES, I'M DISTRACTED, SOMETHING'S HAPPENING, I'M COMING.
AND I BYPASS IT FOR SOME REASON ONCE OR TWICE, BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS SAFETY IS VERY IMPORTANT.
ANYTIME YOU LOSE SOMEONE IN AN ACCIDENT IN A CORNER LIKE THIS, IT STAYS WITH YOU FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING TO TAKE LIGHTLY.
I KNOW HOW MANY DO WE HAVE TO DIE IN A CORNER LIKE THAT FOR US TO SAY, THIS IS, WE NEED TO USE IT, OR IT'S NOT AN INVASION OF PRIVACY OR WHATEVER ELSE IT COULD BE.
SO ME AT THIS TIME, I THINK SO CONSOLE AGAIN, IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS TO THE CHIEF, I'M GOING TO ASK HIM ONE MORE QUESTION.
SO IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WHEN WE DID THE MOVES IN 2016, DID WE LEAVE THE SPEED INDICATOR SIGNS WHERE THEY PREVIOUSLY WERE PUT NEW ONES IN? OR DID WE LEAVE SO WELL, WE HAVE SPIN SPEED INDICATOR SIGNS AT OTHER INTERSECTIONS BEYOND THE PHOTO ENFORCED INTERSECTIONS, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER THAT TO TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
CAUSE WE HAVE AN, A SCHOOL, A COUPLE OF SCHOOLS, OWN AREAS.
AND I KNOW WE'VE, WE'VE DONE THAT, BUT I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER FIRSTLY, BECAUSE NOT HAVING TO GO AROUND AND THOSE INDICATORS WERE FUNDED THROUGH, THROUGH THESE ACTIVITIES.
I WANT TO JUST ASK HER, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UM, T HAVE CHIEF HAVE ACCIDENTS WENT DOWN SINCE THESE CAMERAS HAVE BEEN PLACED, WHEREVER ARE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY'RE PLACED.
WE HAVE SHOWN ON AVERAGE, A DECREASE IN ACCIDENTS FROM THE HIGH PRIOR TO THE, UH, CAMERAS BEING INSTALLED.
AND THEN HAVE, HAVE YOU SEEN, HAS THERE BEEN LESS, UM, SPEEDING TICKETS SINCE THESE CAMERAS BEEN UP? I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT BECAUSE WE'VE ONLY HAD THE CAMERAS FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS OR SO.
SO I DON'T, I, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION THAT I DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK IS THE TAXPAYERS, UM, AT A LOSS IN TERMS OF, UM, THIS PROGRAM, NO ARTIST IS A TAXPAYER'S PAYING OUT OF THEIR POCKET TO KEEP THIS PROGRAM UP.
TAXPAYERS CONTRIBUTE TO OUR, ALL THE ENTIRE CITY'S OPERATIONS.
AND THIS IS ONE ASPECT OF WHAT THE CITY PROVIDES.
AND DOES THIS, DOES IT WITH THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE DOES THAT, DOES THAT, I MEAN, WE'RE PAYING LIKE 1 MILLION OVER A MILLION DOLLARS OVER FIVE YEARS IS THAT IS, ARE WE, I KNOW THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW THE REVENUE WORKS, BUT I'M SAYING, ARE WE PAYING AREN'T WE AT A LOSS AS A CITY, EACH YEAR VARIES.
SO SOMETIMES WE MAY HAVE A, UM, HAVE A VARIANCE IN A POSITIVE ERRORS, AND SOMETIMES THAT MAY BE NEGATIVE, BUT OVER THE COURSE OF THE LIFE OF THE PROGRAM, THERE'S BEEN A SLIGHT, UH, POSITIVE CASHFLOW OR POSITIVE, UH, REVENUE OVER THE COURSE OF THE PROGRAM.
SO OVERALL WE HAVE NOT LOST MONEY, BUT WE HAVE NOT MADE SIGNIFICANT.
WE HAVE NOT MADE THAT MUCH MONEY EITHER.
AND THE MONEY THAT IS, I SAID, ANYBODY, THE REVENUE THAT IS GENERATED IN A POSITIVE, LOW IS PUSHED BACK INTO THE SYSTEM.
I'VE GOT, AS I MENTIONED FOR SPEAKER CARDS, FIRST, I WANT TO CALL UP, UH, RICK CUBAN, RICK, YOU KNOW, THE DRILL, STATE, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES MAY OR MAY NOT MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
I SAT ON THAT SAME DYESS TWICE APPROVING THE PHOTO RADAR.
I HEARD SOME OF THE SAME KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE NEED A POLICE OFFICER ON EVERY CORNER.
AND THEY'LL FEEL THE GENEROUS TO THE PERSON.
WHATEVER DRIVING IS A PRIVILEGE, IT IS NOT A RIGHT.
IT DOES NOT SIT IN THE CONSTITUTION LIKE THE SECOND AMENDMENT YOU DRIVE, YOU GET A LICENSE TO DRIVE.
YOU BREAK THE LAW, WHICH WE SET UP.
THAT IS, IF THERE'S A FINE IT'S ABOUT SAFETY COUNCIL, MARY ELLIS HIT IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE REDUCE ACCIDENTS
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ON A CORNER, WE SAVE SOMEBODY'S LIFE.IF YOU BREAK THE LAW, WE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER, WINEGAR MYSELF, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO.
WE ADDED THE SPEED BOARDS TO SLOW PEOPLE DOWN.
WE CHANGED THE LIGHTS, THE YELLOW LIGHT, THE FOUR AND A HALF SECONDS.
YOU HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO STOP YOU D YOU CHOOSE NOT TO.
YOU RUN THE LIGHT, YOU GAS IT.
WE'VE GOT THE COUNTDOWNS ON THE, ON THE WALK SIGNS NOW, SO PEOPLE CAN SLOW DOWN.
YOU GET A TICKET, IT'S YOUR OWN FAULT.
IT'S NOT ABOUT FLEECING THE PUBLIC.
YOU HAVE A PRIVILEGE TO DRIVE.
WHEN WE HAVE MORE ACCIDENTS IN OUR CITY, OUR INSURANCE RATES GO UP, GET AN ACTUARY IN HERE TO TALK ABOUT INSURANCE RATES IN CITIES THAT HAVE HIGH HIGH ACCIDENT RATES, YOUR INSURANCE GOES UP, THAT'S FLEECING THE PUBLIC.
WE ALL PAY FOR THAT KIND OF A SITUATION.
SO WE NEED TO TAKE A STRONG LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WE'VE ADDED ALL THESE DIFFERENT FEATURES IN HERE TO MAKE THE PUBLIC AWARE.
WE, IF YOU SLOW DOWN, YOU'RE PAYING ATTENTION, GET OFF YOUR PHONE.
WHY DID WE HAVE TO HAVE A LAW NOW? NO TEXTING AND DRIVING.
WHY? BECAUSE A POLICE OFFICER WAS KILLED ON THE ONE-ON-ONE AND FINALLY TOOK THAT BEFORE HE PUT THAT LAW INTO EFFECT.
SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THIS AND YOU SAY, LET'S GET RID OF THE CAMERA IS OFFICER CAN STOP SOMEBODY I'VE WRITTEN WITH POLICE OFFICERS.
THEY CAN GIVE A TICKET, NOT GIVE A TICKET THAT HAPPENS, BUT THIS IS ANOTHER TOOL IN A TOOLBOX LIKE THE CHIEF SET.
SO REMEMBER THIS, IF WE PULL THESE CAMERAS OUT AND AS WE, AS THE CHIEF SHOWED ACCIDENT, RATES HAVE GONE UP THAT MOTHER, FATHER, SISTER, BROTHER, OR CHILDREN WHO DON'T HAVE A PARENT COMING HOME THAT NIGHT BECAUSE SOMEBODY WAS LAZY AND RAN A RED LIGHT AND KILLED SOMEBODY.
UM, NEXT I HAVE, UM, BARBARA HOFFMAN AND BARBARA STATES.
YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
HI, MY NAME IS BARB HOFFMAN AND I LIVE AT 4,104 EAST SOUR WOOD DRIVE IN GILBERT.
I WORK IN TRAFFIC SAFETY AND I SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN CHANDLER.
SO THAT'S WHY MY INTEREST IS HERE.
UM, I WROTE YOU ALL AN EMAIL YESTERDAY AND I HOPE YOU ALL READ IT.
IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE YOU ALL UNDERSTOOD IT, BUT I DECIDED I WAS GOING TO TELL A QUICK STORY.
MAYBE THIS WOULD EMPHASIZE HOW I FEEL.
THIS IS CALLED MY LAST DAY ON EARTH BY THE LATE MICHAEL DAVID ALLENSON FOREVER 14.
I NEVER THOUGHT TODAY WOULD BE MY LAST DAY ON EARTH.
I WOKE UP STARTLED FILLING THE WET TONGUE OF A PUPPY, LIKING MY, WHEN I REMEMBERED THAT MY DAD, YEAH, I BOUGHT ME A NEW PUPPY.
I CALMED DOWN BAD NEWS, HIT MY FAMILY LATE.
RECENTLY, MY OLDER SISTER, JEN WAS IN A ROLLOVER CRASH ON HER WAY, HOME FROM MEXICO.
AND SHE BROKE MANY BONES AND SHE HAD BLEEDING IN HER BRAIN.
I RODE MY SCOOTER OVER TO MY MOM'S HOUSE TO WATCH A MOVIE WITH MY SISTER AND SHE FELL ASLEEP.
I GOT UP TO LEAVE, BUT I FELT THE NEED TO HUG MY SISTER, MAYBE BECAUSE WE WERE ACTUALLY GETTING ALONG FOR THE FIRST TIME I LEANED OVER AND HUGGED HER IN HER HOSPITAL BED.
THAT WAS LOCATED IN MY MOM'S LIVING ROOM.
I LOOKED UP AND SAW MY MOM'S SMILING.
WHEN WE GOT ALONG, SHE ASKED ME TO STAY FOR PIZZA, BUT I HAD TO GET BACK TO MY DAD'S HOUSE TO FEED MY PUPPY.
WHEN I GOT TO THE INTERSECTION, MY LIGHT WAS RED.
SO I STARTED PULLING FORWARD AND I GOT A NOD FROM THE SUV DRIVER ON MY LEFT BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE A RIGHT TURN.
SO THEY TOLD ME THAT I PROCEED.
I TOOK OFF IN THE PROPER CROSSWALK AND WHAM OUT OF NOWHERE, A CAR HITS ME.
I SCREAMED OUT IN PAIN AND I FLEW UP IN THE AIR.
MY SCOOTER SHATTERED INTO PIECES AND I FELL, FELL REALLY HARD TO THE BURNING HOT ASPHALT IMMEDIATELY.
I FOLLOWED IT TO A MORE PEACEFUL PLACE.
LOOKING DOWN FOR MY NEW HEAVENLY HOME.
I SAW MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR WHO HAPPENED TO BE AT THAT INTERSECTION, RUNNING TO MY BODY.
MY NAME, A FEW PEOPLE CALLED NINE 11 IMMEDIATELY.
AMBULANCE POLICE AND FIRE CAME PARAMEDICS TRY WORKING ON ME.
AND MY NEIGHBOR DROVE OFF TO TELL MY MOM WHAT HAD HAPPENED.
I REALIZED THEN THAT I WAS HIT AND KILLED BY AN ELDERLY MAN WHO RAN A RED LIGHT IN MY NEW REALM.
I COULD SEE THINGS IN MANY PLACES.
THEN I WATCHED MY NEIGHBOR KNOCKING ON MY MOM'S DOOR AND MY MOM LEFT WITH HER.
AND SOON THEY ARRIVED AT THE INTERSECTION AND MY MOM GOT OUT OF THE CAR AND RAN TO THE CRASH SCENE.
SHE WANTED TO SEE ME, BUT THE POLICE WOULDN'T LET HER.
I WAS BLEEDING BADLY OUT OF MY HEAD AND THEY WORKED ON ME FOR A LONG TIME, BUT THEY COULDN'T DO MUCH.
TWO MEN WALKED OVER TO MY MOM WHO WAS SITTING ON THE CURB AND THEY TOLD HER THAT THEY COULDN'T SAVE ME.
I WATCHED MY MOM DIALING HER CELL PHONE TO CALL MY DAD AT WORK.
SHE TOLD THEM THAT I WAS HIT BY A CAR AND THAT THEY COULDN'T SAVE ME.
AS SHE HAD KNEW, SHE HAD TO TELL MY SISTER WHAT HAD HAPPENED.
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THEY CRIED AND HUGGED, EVEN THOUGH MY SISTER, LIKE IF YOU COULD JUST FINISH UP, IT'S ALMOST DONE.MY DAD AND GRANDPARENTS AND EIGHT NEIGHBORS IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CAME TO MY MOM'S HOUSE AND THEY WATCHED, I WATCHED THEM MAKE CALLS.
MY GRANDFATHER WHO'S NORMALLY A STRONG PERSON WAS LAYING ON THE FLOOR, SOBBING ONE TRAGIC MISTAKE BY A DRIVER WHO RAN A RED LIGHT, DEVASTATED MANY LIVES DAY, ESPECIALLY MINE.
SO PLEASE STOP ON RED MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I PLEASE HOPE THAT YOU VOTE YES.
TO KEEP CAMERA'S IN ORDER TO DETER RED LIGHT RUNNING AND TO SAVE LIVES.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER CARD IS SEAN DOW, SEAN AGAINST TEACHER NAME AND ADDRESS.
AND YOU HAVE THREE NOW, TORONTO, I LIVE AT 1520 BUMBLEBEE LANE.
MR. MAYOR, UH, 12 YEARS AGO, UH, I CAME HERE TO CHANDLER AND MOVED HERE AND I SAW MY FIRST PHOTO RADAR FLASH.
UH, AS I HAD JUST LEFT THE MILITARY, I DOVE FOR THE SIDE OF THE ROAD THINKING THAT IT WAS A ROADSIDE BOMB.
I ALSO CAME INTO THIS COUNCIL CHAMBER AND SAT NEXT TO THE CONVICTED FELON.
AARON ROSENBERG, AS HE SOLD YOU ON THIS BRIGHT FLASH AT INTERSECTIONS WAS GOING TO MAKE THE INTERSECTIONS MORE SAFE.
I HAVE EMAILED YOU MAYOR AND YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS STUDY AFTER STUDY PROVING THAT THESE, THESE CAMERAS BRIGHT FLASH IN THE MIDDLE OF AN INTERSECTION AND THE MOST DANGEROUS PART OF THE ROAD IS MAKING MORE CRASHES AND PINEL COUNTY FATALITIES DOUBLED WHEN THEY INSTALLED THESE CAMERAS.
AND THAT'S WHY THEY RIPPED THEM OUT.
YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY THE CAMERAS WERE RIPPED OFF OF THE FREEWAY? I CAN TELL YOU WHY, BECAUSE I PLAYED THE PART IN DOING IT.
I GO AROUND AND DESTROY PHOTO RADAR CAMERA PROGRAMS. I STARTED RIGHT HERE IN CHANDLER.
WHAT'D YOU LIKE TO KNOW THE PHOTO RADAR CAMERA, UH, COMPANY EXECUTIVES THAT ARE, THAT HAVE GONE TO PRISON THAT WORKED RIGHT HERE IN CHANDLER, BECAUSE I CAN GIVE YOU THAT LIST OF NAMES.
UH, RED FLUX CEO, KAREN FINLEY WENT TO PRISON FOR 10 YEARS FOR BRIBING OFFICIALS IN 19 STATES, INCLUDING HERE IN ARIZONA.
SO DID HER ACCOMPLICE WHO TESTIFIED THAT HE BRIBED ARIZONA POLITICIANS, INCLUDING THAT'S AARON ROSENBERG WHO STOOD HERE, RIGHT WHERE I'M STANDING AND SOLD YOU THIS BILL OF GOODS.
SO DID THE MAYORS OF CRESTWOOD, ILLINOIS ST.
AND SO DID THE ILLINOIS TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN.
SO DID THE TOP AID TO THE COOK COUNTY COMMISSIONER.
SO DID THE DALLAS COUNTY SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT AND THE PRESIDENT.
SO DID THE DALLAS COUNTY, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEN.
SO DID A WASHINGTON DC POLICE OFFICER EVERYWHERE.
CRIME FOLLOWS THESE CAMERAS CAUSE MORE ACCIDENTS.
WHAT YOU DID MAYOR BY WIDENING THESE FIVE ROADS AND IMPROVING THE YELLOW LIGHT TIME IS WHAT TRULY SAVES LIVES.
WE'VE SEEN IT ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
YOU INCREASE THESE YELLOW LIGHT TIMES BY ONE SECONDS AND YOU WILL SEE ACCIDENTS DROP LIKE THEY DID IN GEORGIA, WHERE THEY SAW A 49% DECREASE IN ACCIDENTS JUST BY ADDING ONE SECOND.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE TICKETS THAT CHANDLER ISSUES ARE WRONG.
52%, ACCORDING TO THE EAST VALLEY TRIBUNE AND THE ONES THAT ARE PROSECUTABLE 25 ARE DISMISSED OUTRIGHT.
NO POLICE OFFICER IN THIS TOWN WOULD TOLERATE ANOTHER POLICE OFFICER ISSUING 70 PULLING OVER 75% OF THE PEOPLE IN CHANDLER AND ISSUING WRONG TICKETS.
22,000 PEOPLE ARE HAVING TO GO TO COURT AND FIGHT THESE TICKETS BECAUSE OF THIS VENDOR.
YOU NEED TO GET RID OF THESE CRIMINALS AND GET RID OF THEM.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER CARD IS, UH, PUBLIC AGAIN, SIR, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
I LIVE AT 1313 EAST TYSON STREET TONIGHT.
THE COUNCIL IS VOTING TO EXTEND THE PHOTO RADAR CONTRACT AND CHANDLER FOR TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
OVER FIVE YEARS, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE, TO NOT EXTEND THE CONTRACT.
I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE ARE NUMEROUS STUDIES SUPPORTING AS WELL AS THE SCOURGING.
THEY'RE USED TO REDUCE TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS OF VARYING SEVERITIES.
HOWEVER, ONE OF THE MOST EXTENSIVE STUDIES ON THE SUBJECT DEMONSTRATES NO SIGNIFICANT SAFETY VALUE.
THE PEER REVIEWED STUDY ABOUT ECONOMICS PROFESSOR DR.
JUSTIN GALLAGHER WAS PUBLISHED IN THE SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN AND THE ABSTRACT TO THE STUDY STATES QUOTE, WE BONDED THE CAMERA'S CHANGE, THE COMPOSITION OF ACCIDENTS, BUT NO EVIDENCE OF A REDUCTION IN TOTAL ACCIDENTS OR INJURIES ON QUOTE FINDINGS FROM THE STUDY WERE GENERATED USING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF GEO-CODED POLICE ACCIDENT,
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DATA COLLECTED OVER A PERIOD OF 12 YEARS.TONIGHT'S AGENDA STATES, QUOTE STUDIES CONDUCTED IN CHANDLER SHOW THAT THERE'S A STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN ACCIDENTS AND INTERSECTIONS THAT ARE ENFORCED.
UNQUOTE, WHY ARE THESE STUDIES AND DATA NOT AVAILABLE ON CHANDLER'S TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT WEBSITE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW AND THIRD-PARTY ASSESSMENT? I UNDERSTAND ACCIDENTS AND INJURIES ARE ONLY ONE FACTOR AND THAT THERE'S A REVENUE COMPONENT ASSOCIATED WITH CAMERAS.
HOWEVER, PER TONIGHT'S MEETING AGENDA QUOTE, THE GOAL OF THE PHOTO ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM IS TO REDUCE OVERALL ACCIDENTS AND FURTHER REDUCE THE SEVERITY OF ACCIDENTS THAT DO OCCUR ON QUOTE THIS.
AND WHY IS THE PROGRAM IS TO PROMOTE SAFETY, NOT REVENUE GENERATION OVER BASED ON THE DATA.
THE STATEMENT WAS DUBIOUS IN 2011, FORMER CHANDLER VICE MAYOR, JACK SELLERS EXPRESSED THE SAME CONCERN SAYING IN REFERENCE TO THE PROGRAM THAT QUOTE, I GUESS I GET CONCERNED WHEN AS THE APPEARANCE OF BEING A REVENUE GENERATOR, RATHER THAN A SAFETY MEASURE ON A QUOTE, COUNCILMAN ORLANDO AT THE SAME TIME QUESTIONED WHY THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO PAY THE OPERATING COMPANY FOR UNSUCCESSFUL TICKETS STATING QUOTE, WE SEEM TO HAVE THE BURDEN OF THE COSTS.
UNQUOTE HERDEZ VALLEY WAS FORCED TO REFUND OVER A THOUSAND CITATIONS AFTER BEING ACCUSED OF SHORTENING THE DURATION OF ITS YELLOW LIGHT CYCLE TO MAXIMIZE RED LIGHT TICKETS ISSUE, NOT SOMETHING CHANDLER'S ENGAGED IN.
I HOPE MY QUESTION IS, DOES THE ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN AND COST JUSTIFY RETAINING ITS PROGRAM? SPEAKING OF THE OPERATING COMPANY, PRIVATE 2016, THE CITY OF CHANDLER CONTRACTS AND REFLECTS TO OPERATE THE CAMERAS IN 2017, RED FLAGS, SUBTLE DAY, $20 MILLION BRIBERY SCHEME TO THE CITY OF CHICAGO, FORMER CEO OF A SENSE OF 30 MONTHS IN FEDERAL PRISON IN ORDER TO PAY $2 MILLION IN RESTITUTION FOR CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT BRIBERY IN SEVERAL STATES, A FORMER RED FLIX VICE-PRESIDENT WAS THE COMPANY ROUTINELY IS BRIBERY AND OTHER STATES, INCLUDING ARIZONA, THE CITY NOW A CONTRACTS AND MOBILITY FORMERLY KNOWN AS AMERICAN TRAFFIC SOLUTIONS, WHICH HAS RECENTLY ON NOVEMBER, 2020 WAS SUED IN A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT FOR QUOTE UNFAIR PRACTICES THAT HARM CONSUMERS TRANQUIL.
SO YOU'RE COMMENTING ON THESE CONTRACTORS, DOES THE CITY OF CHANDLER AUDIT OUR SUPPLIERS OR HAVE OTHER SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE TO ENSURE TAXPAYERS DON'T BECOME THE NEXT VICTIM OF PREDATORY PRACTICES.
THIS SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED THAT THE CRITERIA FOR AN ACTIONABLE ACTIVATION AND EXHIBIT B OF THE CONTRACT IS VERY WEAK AND EASILY EXPLOITABLE EFFECTIVENESS, FINANCIAL AND OPERATIONAL CONCERNS ASIDE.
THESE CAMERAS ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND VIOLATE AS RIGHTS PRIVACY AND THE RIGHTS FACE FOR ACCUSER.
THE NATIONAL MOTORS ASSOCIATION AGREES WITH THIS OPINION.
AS, AS THE SUPREME COURT OF MISSOURI, I REJECT THE IDEA THAT CITIZENS MUST GIVE UP OUR PRIVACY TO ACCOMMODATE THIS TECHNOLOGY, RED LIGHT CAMERAS AND SPEED CAMERAS PROHIBITED IT ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN VARIOUS STATES, THE 2.5 MILLION TAXPAYER DOLLARS FROM THIS PROJECT SHOULDN'T BE SPENT ON STRATEGICALLY PLACED SPEED READERS OR OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS THAT WE KNOW WORK SOURCES AND REFERENCES ARE AVAILABLE IN THIS DOCUMENT THAT I CAN EMAIL YOU.
WE GET A REPORT ON HIS QUESTION AND GET BACK TO HIM ABOUT HOW WE AUDIT THE, UM, THE, THE, UM, THE COMPANIES THAT DO THE, UH, WHAT'S IT CALLED ATS OR WHO IS IT NOW AND KNOW THEY CHANGED THE NAME VERA MOBILITY.
SO COUNSEL, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I KNOW THIS IS A, UH, EMOTIONAL ISSUE.
I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE THAT BELIEVE IN THIS.
I KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE THAT THINK THAT THIS IS A VIOLATION OF RIGHTS.
I THINK THERE IS, UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO VOTE AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO VOTE AS THEY, AS THEY LOOK AT THESE ISSUES.
SO I'M GOING TO ASK, IS THERE A MOTION? AND THEN WE CAN CERTAINLY CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION BEFORE WE VOTE.
I MOVE TO APPROVE AN AGREEMENT NUMBER PD FIVE DASH 96 DASH THREE FIVE TWO ONE AMENDMENT ONE WITH THE AMERICAN TRAFFIC SOLUTIONS, INC, TO ENVISIONS A BEARER MOBILITY FOR, FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT.
UM, DO I NEED TO READ THE REST OF IT OR THAT'S THE MOTION, RIGHT.
SO COUNSEL, THERE WAS A MOTION.
IS THERE A SECOND? JANE, THERE'S A SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND, UM, COMMENTS, WHY DON'T WE START ON ONE END AND GO TO THE OTHER, LET'S START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, HARRIS.
UM, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, TONIGHT WE DEALT WITH SOME VERY POWERFUL TESTIMONIES.
SOME OF THOSE TESTIMONIES I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO LOOK FURTHER INTO.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, UM, MORE BEHIND THE SCENES, HOW WE GOT THIS CONTRACT, HOW IT CAME TO THE CITY OF CHANDLER.
THERE'S SOME DISCREPANCIES IN TERMS OF HOW IT EVEN GOT HERE BASED ON OTHER, UM, THIS ACTIVITY IS THAT WHAT'S GOING ON? UH, I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE, THE YELLOW LIGHT.
UM, THAT WAS ONE SECOND COULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE, WOULD LIKE TO LOOK FURTHER INTO THAT.
AND I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE'S THE SEVERITY OF THE SURVEILLANCE THAT HAPPENS WHEN, YOU KNOW, AS A THIRD PARTY IS SURVEILLING OUR CITY IN AND OUT AND BEING ABLE TO KEEP, UM, LOOKING AT THAT DATA.
AND SO I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO GO FURTHER INTO IT, BUT, UM, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE THINGS AND I'LL WRAP IT UP.
UH, AND SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS LOOK FURTHER AND LOOK FURTHER INTO IT.
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NEVERTHELESS, UM, I HAD AN OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF EMAILS THAT CAME IN FROM, FROM THIS, AND IT CAME FROM THE COMMUNITY, THERE WAS 39 THAT SUPPORTED THIS AND THERE WAS FOUR THAT OPPOSED IT.UM, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT THESE EMAILS INTO THE RECORD AND BECAUSE OF THE EMAILS AND BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY OF CHANDLERS SEEMS TO DESIRE THIS OVER MY PERSONAL BELIEFS, I'M GOING TO VOTE TO KEEP THIS, UH, WELL, I'M, I'M GOING TO, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO VOTE, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT KEEPING THE RED CAMERAS.
UM, SO I UNDERSTAND BOTH SIDES AND I CAN APPRECIATE, UM, YOU KNOW, CASPER STEWARD AND COUNCILMAN ROSE CONCERNS, UM, ON SOME OF THE OVERREACH OF, OF GOVERNMENT.
I CONCUR GIRL THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THERE IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE, BUT TO ME, IT GOES, COME DOWN TO THE SAFETY OF THE INTERSECTIONS.
IT COMES DOWN TO, UM, THE DATA AND IT WAS MENTIONED A FEW OTHER OTHER, UH, UM, LOCATIONS AND AGAIN, A MAT AND NATIONWIDE, UH, STUDY THAT WAS DONE.
BUT I LOOK AT OUR OURSELVES AND, AND I LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENS IN OUR CITY.
AND WE HAVE PROVEN WHEN WE REVIEWED THESE IN 2016, TO ME, IT WAS VERY, VERY BLATANT THAT BY MOVING THESE CAMERAS AND THOSE INTERSECTIONS, IT HAD AN IMMEDIATE EFFECT ON THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS, THE INTENSITY OF ACCIDENTS AND THE DEATHS.
SO TO ME, BY THE DATA, THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE SELVES AND WE'RE SAVING LIVES OUT THERE.
IT'S ONE OF THE TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE WHERE I THINK WE DO TARGET IT.
IT'S A TOOL TO BE ABLE TO USE TO TARGET SPECIFIC INTERSECTIONS THAT ARE HIGH RISK, HIGH VOLUME, UM, AND, AND LEAVE IT AT THAT AND LEAVE THIS AS ONE OF THE TOOLS IN MANY THAT OUR POLICE HAVE.
SO TO HELP KEEP US SAFE WHILE WE'RE OUT ON THE ROADS.
SO THAT'S WHY I'LL BE VOTING FOR, UM, TEND TO TABLE THIS TILL YOU HAVE MORE INFORMATION.
THERE IS EMOTION, EMOTION HERE THAT HAS TO BE VOTED OFF.
UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION IF THIS IS TRULY ABOUT SAFETY, THAT HAS TO BE VOTED ON BEFORE ANOTHER EMOTION WOULD BE MADE.
CAN I, CAN I MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT? YES.
MAKE THE MOTION OR THE SECOND CITY ATTORNEY IN THERE.
UM, YES, THERE IS A MOTION IN A SECOND THAT HAS TO BE VOTED ON UNLESS IT'S WITHDRAWN AND YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND.
DOESN'T HAVE TO BE MOVED BY THE MOVERS SECONDARY, BUT THAT AMENDMENT PROPOSED AMENDMENT HAS TO BE BOTH SECONDED BEFORE IT CAN BE VOTED ON.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THIS, UH, WELL ACTUALLY PROBABLY TWO MOTIONS I'D LIKE TO AMEND IT TO, UNTIL WE GET TO, UNTIL WE GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS HAS.
UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO, IF THIS IS TRULY ABOUT SAFETY, I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO, TO AMEND THIS MOTION, UM, POSSIBLY TO A REFERENDUM.
UM, AND THEN LET'S FIND OUT WHAT THE, WHAT THE CITY FEELS ABOUT IT.
UM, AND MAYBE IN OUR NEXT ELECTION OR, UM, WE CAN LET THE, THE, UH, CHANNEL AND COMMUNITY DECIDE.
BUT THE MOTION THAT I LIKE TO MAKE IS CAN WE ISSUE OUR CITIZENS, A WARNING FIRST, UM, AND, AND MAKE THIS NOT ABOUT REVENUE AND MAKE THIS MORE ABOUT SAFETY.
AND IF THAT'S TRULY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE LAZY ROUTE OF NOT MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A SAFE INTERSECTION, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THE CAMERAS IN PLACE THAT CHANDLER RESIDENTS OR ANY RESIDENT FOR THAT MATTER GETS A WARNING FIRST.
I THINK THAT THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO IN THIS CASE.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S, WE'VE GOT, UH, IT'S LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.
UM, BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DO THAT.
SO LET ME BE CLEAR THOUGH, THERE'S AGAIN, YOU CAN MAKE ONE AMENDMENT FOR EMOTION.
YOU CAN NOT MAKE MULTIPLE AMENDMENTS, ANYONE THERE'S ONLY ONE ALLOWED PROMOTION, ACCORDING TO OUR ROLE AS SARAH.
SO YOUR AMEND YOUR MOTION IS TO YOUR AMENDMENT IS TO, UM, HAVE, UH, A WARNING GO OUT ON THE FIRST TIME THAT SOMEONE IS CITED.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE SECOND TIME IN I'M JUST, IF, IF YOU GO THROUGH A RED LIGHT AND YOU GET THE, AND ACCIDENTALLY GET A TICKET, THAT, AND THIS IS ABOUT SAFETY AND PREVENTION AND BEHAVIOR, THAT THE FIRST TIME IT HAPPENS, THEY GET A WARRANT.
IS THERE, UH, IS A CITY ATTORNEY'S THAT? IS THAT AN ACCEPTABLE AMENDMENT? THE, THE MOTION, THE ORIGINAL MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT OR NOT APPROVED THE CONTRACT.
MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO VOTE ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION.
AND THEN IF COUNCILMAN, IF, UM, VICE MAYOR STEWART WANTS TO MAKE AN ADDITIONAL MOTION TO
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HAVE A WARNING ISSUED FIRST, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE TREATED SEPARATE FROM THE ORIGINAL MOTION.IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY, THEY'RE UNRELATED IN THE FACT THAT ONE'S DEALING WITH CONTRACT AND ONE'S STILL IN WITH THE PROCESS.
SO LET'S TABLE THAT DISCUSSION UNTIL AFTER THE VOTE.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU, WE'RE REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
I KNOW THAT YOU REACHED OUT AND ASKED FOR, UH, AFFIRMATIONAL EMAILS AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHY YOU GOT THE NUMBER THAT YOU GOT.
AND I, AND I RESPECT THAT AND THAT'S REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND DOING THIS, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO INTRODUCE THAT HERE.
THIS FAIR, YOU CAN DO ANYTHING YOU WANT, BUT IT'S NOT FAIR TO INTRODUCE THAT HERE.
I INVITED ONE GENTLEMEN TO COME AND SPEAK ON BEHALF.
THE POLICE CHIEF HAD ALMOST 10 MINUTES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS, THE OPPOSITION, WHICH WOULD BE ME AND ONE OTHER PERSON AT ABOUT THREE TO FIVE MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT IT.
UM, I GUESS WHAT, WHAT I WANT TO SHARE IS THAT IT'S OKAY.
WE HAVE A HUGE TRUST ISSUE RIGHT NOW WITH OUR POLICE.
AND THE LAST THING THAT WE NEED TO DO IS DO THINGS THAT ARE UNTRANSPARENT.
AND I THINK HAVING THE ABILITY FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO COMMUNICATE WITH OUR RESIDENTS THAT MAKE A MISTAKE AND NOT FIND THEM EVERY TIME THEY GO THROUGH A RED LIGHT, UM, IS, IS A GOOD THING IN MY BOOK.
I THINK THERE'S A BUNCH OF CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATIONS WITH THIS, AND ULTIMATELY I'LL BE VOTING NO ON THIS SIMPLY BECAUSE, UM, I DON'T BELIEVE IT FITS WITHIN THE PARAMETERS AND THE FRAMEWORK OF WHAT WE WANT CHANDLER TO BE, UM, WHICH IS A TRANSPARENT COMMUNITY.
I SERVE AS MAYOR FOR LAST COMMENTS.
I HATE FOR THIS TO BE CONTENTIOUS BECAUSE PEOPLE THAT PEOPLE HAVE THEIR BELIEFS ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS SUBJECT AND SOME DON'T CARE, BUT, BUT PEOPLE CARE DEEPLY AND ARE COMMITTED.
UM, I WOULD SAY, SAY THAT, UM, SOMEHOW ALONG THE WAY, POLICE OFFICERS BECAME DRIFTED A LITTLE BIT AWAY FROM PEACEKEEPERS TO, UH, ENFORCERS.
AND, BUT THERE'S BEEN REAL EFFORTS ON BEHALF OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR CHIEF TO TRY AND CHANGE THAT WITH COMMUNITY RELATIONS, COFFEE, WITH A COP, OUR CHIEF GOES OUT AND ATTENDS MANY THINGS, UH, IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND, AND I JUST LOOK, I, THE GENERAL PUBLIC DOES NOT WANT THIS.
THERE ARE MANY GREAT CITIES ACROSS THE STATE OF ARIZONA THAT DO NOT HAVE THIS, AND THEY HAVE SAFE STREETS AND SAFE ROADWAYS.
AND I WOULDN'T CALL INTO QUESTION THEIR SAFETY.
AND SO I, I WOULD NOT SUPPORT IT.
HOW'D YOU REMEMBER ELLIS? THANK YOU.
MA'AM I'M SITTING HERE TONIGHT THINKING ABOUT, UM, SOMEONE IS NOT GONNA GET THEIR LOVED ONES HOME BECAUSE SOMEONE HATE THEM INTO THE, UM, OH, RED LIGHT HAPPENED.
UH, AN ACCIDENT HAPPENED IN AN INTERSECTION RIGHT DOWN BY MY HOUSE, ON MY QUEEN AND QUEEN CREEK.
AND I HAVE SEEN IT HAPPEN AGAIN OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
IT IS NOT POSSIBLE FOR US TO LEAVE HERE TONIGHT, THINKING THAT THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH, UH, UM, SAFETY, THIS ONLY HAVE TO DO WITH REVENUE OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ATTRIBUTE IT TO MY MEN POINT AGAIN, I'M GOING TO SAY ANYTIME WE WANT TO CHANGE BEHAVIOR, WE'RE GOING TO ATTRIBUTE SOMETHING TO IT.
THAT'S GOING TO FORCE THE PERSON TO CHANGE THAT BEHAVIOR.
I UNDERSTAND THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TRYING TO, UH, SEND A WARNING TO SOMEONE.
IF I KNOW THAT I'M GOING TO RUN A RED LIGHT AND ALL I'M GOING TO GET IS A WARNING, THEN THERE'S NO REASON WHY IT SHOULDN'T RUN IT.
I AM NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT BY SAYING TONIGHT THAT IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE THINK ABOUT THOSE PARENTS OR THOSE HUSBANDS AND WIVES AND CHILDREN THAT ARE LOSING THEIR LOVED ONES.
AND SO THOSE INTERSECTIONS, I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE THAT SAYS TO, UM, HAVE A LAWYER, SHOULD I HAVE STEMMED FROM THIS? BECAUSE I HAVE GOTTEN A TICKET AND A COUNCIL MEMBER LOPEZ LOOKED AT ME AND SAID, NO, YOU CAN'T BECAUSE
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YOU'RE ELECTED BY THIS, THE RESIDENTS IN THIS CITY TO VOTE ON THOSE KINDS OF MATTERS.AND TONIGHT I WANT TO EXERCISE THAT VOTE AND I WANT TO DO IT FOR A MOTHER.
I WANT TO DO IT FOR A FATHER, AND I WANT TO DO IT FOR A CHILD, A GRANDMOTHER, AND ANYONE WHO HAS EVER LOST SOMEONE IN AN INTERSECTION.
MY FOOT IS GOING TO BE, YES, ORLANDO.
THERE'S NOT MUCH MORE I CAN SAY OTHER THAN, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT THIS FROM PURELY A SAFETY EFFORT.
AND THEY'VE BEEN CONSISTENTLY LOOKING AT THE SAFETY EFFORT, THE STATISTICS, WE COULD ARGUE WHAT THE ONE THING VERSUS THE OTHER STATISTICS, THERE'S LIARS DAMN LIARS AND YOUR STATISTICS.
SO WE CAN SIT HERE ALL NIGHT LONG AND DISCUSS STATISTICS AND, AND, AND GET THE DATA.
AND I THINK IT'S FAIR FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO GET THE DATA.
UM, BUT I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING HERE IS SAFETY.
I DON'T WANT TO LEAD MY, MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBER HERE DOWN THE ROAD, BECAUSE CITY ATTORNEY, I HAVE A QUESTION ON WHAT YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT.
IF WE APPROVED THIS TONIGHT, THAT'S A CONTRACT, CORRECT? IT'S A CONTRACT, RIGHT? MAYOR, IF I MAY COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, YES IT IS.
AND THE VERBS AND NOUNS IN THAT CONTRACT ARE BINDING.
AND AS I'M RETHINKING MY STATEMENT EARLIER, RIGHT, IT WOULD, I DON'T KNOW.
YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE CONTRACT AND WE'RE VOTING ON THE CONTRACT PRESENTED, RIGHT? WHERE'S THE, WHERE'S THE LEVERAGE WE HAVE TO SAY, OH, BY THE WAY, JUST GO AHEAD AND GIVE THEM A WARNING.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE OUR COUNCIL MEMBER.
I DON'T LEAVE THEM STRAIGHT BECAUSE THAT MAY NOT HAPPEN.
EVEN IF WE DO VOTE TO SAY, DO A WARNING.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE VENDOR'S IS GOING TO DO IT.
MAYOR, IF I MAY COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, ORLANDO, YOU WERE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
AND I DO OWE AN APOLOGY TO VICE STEWART IS I'VE STOPPED TO THINK THIS THROUGH.
I THINK YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
THE PROCESS IS IN THE CONTRACT ARE THE ONE THAT THE PROCESS IS IN THE POLICE OPS AND CITATION.
SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING? I'M SORRY, I JUMPED IN THERE.
UM, BUT THE PROCESS IS IN THE CITATION ISSUE WITH THE OFFICER, THE CONTRACT IS SET UP FOR THE CAMERAS TO SET THEM, TO SEND THE CITATION AGAIN THEN, BUT THE CHIEF JUST TOLD US IS THE POLICE OFFICER THAT REVIEWS THE 200 TO 308.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ISSUE THE CITATION.
SO THAT PROCESS IS IN OUR HANDS, NOT IN THE CONTRACT THAT WE CAN TELL POLICE CHIEF SAY FOR THE NEXT MONTH ISH OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, WHICH I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD BE HAPPENING.
BUT AGAIN, THAT IS THE PROCESS BECAUSE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, CHIEF IT'S, WE'RE THE ONES THAT DECIDE WHETHER THE CITATION GOES OUT OR NOT, WHATEVER IT GOES OUT, IF ANYTHING, AND MAYOR, IF I MAY, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER LOPEZ, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXACT PROCESS IS, UH, FOR THE CONTRACT.
UM, THIS WAS AN AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING CONTRACT, I GUESS WHAT I WANT TO COME DOWN TO.
I DON'T LIKE TO WAFFLE IN FRONT OF YOU ALL, BUT I GUESS I AM TODAY AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT I THINK THAT, UM, IF VICE MAYOR STEWART WANTS TO PROCEED WITH THE MOTION ABOUT FIRST, UM, CITATIONS, MERELY BEING WARNINGS, UM, IF WE COULD JUST HAVE THAT CAVEAT, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE IT COMPLIES WITH CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS, WE HAVE, UM, WE CAN DEFINITELY PURSUE THAT AND LOOK IT UP IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
AND AGAIN, LET ME LET COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO FINISH.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO SAY? OKAY.
SO LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION ON THAT.
SO REALLY THIS IS NOT AN AMENDED THROUGH A MOTION.
IF THERE IS ANY COUNCIL MEMBER HAS THE ABILITY TO, TO BRING SOMETHING UP.
AND, UM, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME MORE RESEARCH NECESSARILY THIS, BUT ANY COUNCIL MEMBER IS COUNTING THEM.
ORLANDO HAS, HAS THE ABILITY TO BRING SOMETHING UP FOR DISCUSSION OR ACTION, AND THAT CAN BE VETTED IN, VOTED ON BY COUNCIL.
SO, BUT WHAT IS BEFORE US RIGHT NOW IS A CONTRACT AND I'M GOING TO VOTE YES ON THIS BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT IT IS A SAFETY ISSUE.
AND I, I HEARD OUR GENTLEMAN THAT SAT TO THE LEFT.
I HEARD A MOM WHO LOST HER SON.
AND, UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THAT.
MOM WHO LOST HER SON ON RED MEANS STOP AS PROBABLY MOST OF US ON THIS COUNCIL HAVE.
AND WE, WE, WE CERTAINLY RESPECT THAT THE END OF THE DAY FOR ME IS I HONESTLY BELIEVE AND THAT THIS IS GOING TO MAKE OUR STREETS SAFER.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK THAT IS OUR, THAT IS SOMETHING I OWE MY COMMUNITY
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IS I DON'T SEE IT AS, UH, A VIOLATION.I'VE GOTTEN RED LIGHT TICKETS.
I, I HAD, I SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN ONE THE OTHER DAY.
THERE WASN'T A LIGHT AT THIS ONE.
UM, YOU KNOW, UP IS PULLED OVER BY A POLICE OFFICER.
HE LISTENED TO ME, WE MOVED ON, I HAD GOTTEN A TICKET, THEN I A HUNDRED PERCENT DESERVED.
SO I'M GOING TO BE VOTING YES.
ON THIS AND COUNSEL, AT THAT POINT, I'M GOING TO ASK IF WE WOULD VOTE, CAN I MAKE THE AMENDMENT TO, UH, MAKE IT, UH, FIND ONLY CHANGED THE CONTRACT TO MAKE IT A FINAL ONLY? AND HERE'S WHY WE HAVE AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF, UM, BUT LIKE CAMERAS IN OUR LESS AFFLUENT AREAS OF JAMMER.
AND I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR.
SO, SO THE, I HAD ALREADY ASKED FOR PEOPLE TO VOTE.
I DON'T, I, AGAIN, THIS IS A CONTRACT AND WE'RE JUST DISCUSSING A CONTRACT.
WHAT WE DO WITH THAT IS SOMETHING ELSE.
LISTEN, CURIOUS BY MAJORITY WITH NICE STEWART AND COUNCIL MEMBER ROW AND COUNCIL MEMBER STORE, SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU PREVIOUSLY ASKED.
I WOULD SUGGEST IF YOU, IN THE ACTIONS OF VISION AND POLICY WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THE PROCESS AND WORK WITH OUR POLICE AND SEE ALTERNATIVES.
THAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE THING.
IT'S NOT AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT AS STATED, BUT IS THERE AN AMENDMENT TO THE PROCESS? AND THAT IS, THAT'S A FURTHER CONVERSATION, BUT THEN I WOULD SUGGEST THAT MORE WORK BE DONE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE.
SO, ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL, THAT FINISHES OUR, OUR, UM, CONSENT AND ACTION.
IS THERE ANY UNSCHEDULED, PUBLIC APPEARANCES TONIGHT BEFORE HIS CLERK HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY UNSCHEDULED, PUBLIC APPEARANCES? ALL RIGHT.
[ Current Events 1. Mayor's Announcements 2. Council's Announcements 3. City Manager's Announcements]
BRINGS US TO CURRENT EVENTS, WHICH I'LL SO COUNSEL.UM, ON MONDAY WE, WE HEARD THE, UH, AIR CHANDLER AIR PARK AREA PLAN PUBLIC.
WE HAD A PUBLIC MEETING AND TONIGHT WE APPROVED THIS AIRPORT MASTER PLAN UPDATE, AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, THE CHANDLER AIR PARK AREA PLAN C AAP GUIDES, FUTURE LAND USE DECISIONS FOR THE NINE SQUARE MILES SURROUNDING THE AIRPORT TO OFFER A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY.
AND THE CITY HAS RETAINED A CONSULTANT TO GATHER FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING AN UPDATE TO THIS PLANT.
SO BASED UPON COMMUNITY INPUT, THAT CONSULTANT HAS DRAFTED ALTERNATIVE LAND USE MAPS.
AND I DO WANT TO INVITE COUNCIL AND OUR COMMUNITY TO ATTEND A VIRTUAL MEETING TO REVIEW PROPOSED CHANGES FROM SIX TO 7:30 PM, THURSDAY, APRIL 29TH.
SO A WEEK FROM TONIGHT, THE AIRPORT IS AN IMPORTANT ECONOMIC ENGINE FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
AND OUR COMMUNITY INPUT IS VITAL TO FUTURE PLANNING.
SO PLEASE, IF YOU WOULD HELP US GET THE WORD OUT, MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE EXCELLENT COMMUNITY INPUT, BUT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.
THIS WEEK IS NATIONAL VOLUNTEER.
WE ACTUALLY, AND EACH COUNCIL MEMBER HAD THE PLEASURE OF SURPRISING THE WINNERS OF CHANDLER'S VOLUNTEER RECOGNITION AWARDS.
THESE VOLUNTEERS MADE AN INCREDIBLE IMPACT IN OUR COMMUNITY OVER THE PAST YEAR.
I WAS SO HAPPY TO BE A PART OF HONORING THEM.
I GOT TO SURPRISE THE MULTITASKING MAY STRO IRAN CRON WITH THE AMERICAN MUSLIM WOMEN'S ASSOCIATION, FROM HER ROLE AS A TREASURER TO MANAGING THE EDUCATIONAL SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM, TO PROVIDING INTEREST FREE AUTO LOANS.
SHE TRULY IS A MULTI TASKING BANG STRO CHECK OUT OUR VIDEO THAT RELEASED TODAY ON THE CITY SOCIAL ACCOUNTS, AND READ MORE ABOUT THE STORIES OF ALL OUR AWARD WINNERS ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
BEFORE I TURNED TO COUNCIL MEMBER LOPEZ, UH, I JUST WANT TO GIVE KUDOS TO COUNCIL ONE FOR BEING INVOLVED WITH US, BUT SOME OF YOU MAY NOT KNOW, IS IT REALLY, IT WAS THE COUNCIL HERE THAT FIRST FINANCED THE, UH, THESE VOLUNTEER AWARENESS EVENTS.
AND WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE A FUNDING STREAM, UM, I WENT TO RETIRING COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT DIDN'T USE ALL THEIR TRAVEL EXPENSES AND THEY ACTUALLY PAID FOR THE BANQUETS AND THE FIRST, UH, RECOGNITIONS OF THESE FOR PROBABLY THE FIRST FOUR YEARS.
SO, SO THANK YOU COUNCIL FOR CONTINUING TO BE INVOLVED THAT, UH, REALLY IN GETTING THIS WHOLE THING STARTED.
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MARY AND THOSE VOLUNTEERS ARE IN OUR CITY, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF HOURS.AND IT'S JUST THE FIRST MULTIPLIER AND KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY, UM, ENGAGED IN AND A GREAT CITY TO KEEP, UH, LIVING AND WORKING IN.
UH, I ALSO WANTED TO GIVE AN EXTRA SHOUT OUT TO THE PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES DIRECTOR AND STAFF THAT NIGHT EARLY THIS WEEK, WE CAN CONGRATULATE THE TWO STAFF MEMBERS WHO HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED NATIONALLY FOR THEIR HARD WORK TONIGHT WERE APPROVED IT AND INNOVATIVE PARTNERSHIP WITH INTEL THAT WILL SUPPLEMENT CURRENT RECLAIMED WATER SUPPLIES.
THIS ADDED SUPPLY WILL HAVE MANY BENEFITS, INCLUDING THE ABILITY TO MEET GROWING DEMANDS AND ENHANCING THE WILDLIFE HABITATS AT VETERANS OASIS PARK.
THESE ARE JUST A FEW INSTANCES THAT EXEMPLIFY THE TALENT AND INNOVATIVE LEADERS THAT WE HAVE PART IN OUR TEAM HERE IN CHANDLER.
THANK YOU TO THE PUBLIC WORKS UTILITIES TEAM FOR CONTINUING TO CREATE INNOVATIVE WAYS TO BEST SERVE OUR COMMUNITY AND TO PREPARE US FOR OUR FUTURE.
AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE INPUT TONIGHT, AS IT RELATES TO THE CAMERA ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IT'S KIND OF DEAR TO MY HEART AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE ALL THAT I RAN ON FOUR YEARS AGO THAT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE, UH, THAT WE GET RID OF.
SO I APPRECIATE THE CORDIAL AND POLITE DISCUSSION.
THAT'S WHAT I RESPECT THE MOST ABOUT BEING IN CHAMBLIN IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A WONDERFUL THING THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT AND DO IT RESPECTFULLY.
I JUST WANT TO THANK OUR POLICE FORCE FOR THE RECENT NEWS ABOUT HAVING A 10 YEAR LOW AND IN OUR MOST VIOLENT CRIMES, THAT'S A REMARKABLE FEAT IN SPITE OF EVERY EFFORT OR EVERY CHALLENGE HAS BEEN PUTTING IN FRONT OF THEM, UM, OVER THIS PAST YEAR AND THE NINE YEARS PRIOR.
AND I KNOW THAT WASN'T ON MY LIST OF THINGS TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE OUT THANKFUL ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER REEL.
YEAH, I WANNA, I WANNA ALSO, UH, SAY, SAY, SAY THE SAME THING AND, UH, THAT WE ALL GOT ALONG.
WE ALL TALKED OUR WAY THROUGH THAT AND, UH, AND THE VOTE DECIDES IT AND THEN WE MOVE ON AND THAT'S THE WAY TO DO IT.
I'D ALSO SAY THAT, UH, AND, UH, ODIE HARRIS, NOT TO STEAL YOUR THUNDER.
YOU DID YOUR, YOU DID YOUR DEAL AND THAT WAS GOOD, BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT SUE MAYO, UH, THE MOTHER OF OUR OWN KEVIN MAYO, UH, RECEIVED THE SUNBEAM AWARD FOR HER VOLUNTEER WORK AT ASCENT.
AND I WAS, I WAS PLEASED AS PUNCH TO GO AND MAKE THAT AWARD.
AND SHE WAS SURPRISED AND HUMBLE AND AWESOME.
JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, KEVIN'S MOTHER WOULD BE SO ANYWAY, CONGRATULATIONS TO HER.
AND PLEASE TELL US LATER, UM, HOW PLEASED PUNCHES PLEASED AS PUNCH? YEAH.
WELL, AS I STOOD AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH, APRIL IS DIVERSITY MONTH AND A CHANDLER.
WE LOVE TO CELEBRATE DIVERSITY ALL YEAR LONG.
IT IS A TIME TO RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE THE BEAUTY OF OUR UNIQUE CULTURES IN CHANDLER, UH, BACKGROUNDS AND TRADITIONS ARE REALLY APPALLED AND EVERYBODY REALLY ENJOYS COME TOGETHER.
ONE THING THAT I REALLY UH, WAS PART OF IS, UH, MS. KIM MOYER.
I DON'T SEE HER HERE, BUT SHE WAS THE ONE WHO TOOK ME FOR A PRESENTATION, ACTUALLY A TOUR OF THE ART CELEBRATION PLAZA, WHICH I HAD NEVER BEEN TO RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE.
SO I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO THERE AND EXPERIENCE IT.
I LOVE WHAT HAS BEEN DONE THERE.
AND ONE OF OUR OWN FORMER MAYOR PAIN IS ALSO CELEBRATED THERE.
HE HAS A BIG PLATE AND EVERY OTHER ONES THAT I LOOKED AT, THEY WERE ALL PEOPLE WHO REALLY DID SOMETHING GREAT HERE IN CHANDLER.
SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT PLACE AS THE FIRST BLACK MAYOR IN CHANDLER.
AND HE WAS AN EDUCATOR AND INFLUENCER, HIS VOICE WAS REALLY HEARD THROUGHOUT OUR CITY AND HE EMBRACES DIVERSITY AND REALLY EMPOWER MANY OF US TO CONTINUE TO LIVE THAT LIFE OF DIVERSITY HERE IN CHANDLER.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUE THAT LEGACY THAT HE HAS STARTED WITH US WHEN IT COMES TO DIVERSITY HERE IN OUR CITY.
AND I'M ENCOURAGING EVERYBODY WHO'S LISTENING RIGHT NOW TO REALLY TAKE A LITTLE TRIP AND GO DOWN TO THAT CELEBRATION PLAZA AND GET TO VISIT IT AND SEE WHAT A GREAT THING THAT WE'RE DOING.
AND DON'T FORGET ALSO TO NOMINATE SOME PEOPLE.
I'M THINKING ABOUT A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT I'M GOING TO NOMINATE TO.
AND AS I HEARD COUNCIL MEMBER LOPEZ SAY ON MAY 15TH, WE WILL BE INDUCTING.
THE, THE NEXT ROUND WILL BE JOINING US AT 9:00 AM, 9:00 AM AND I WILL BE THERE AND EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE THERE.
IT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER ONE OF OUR MIGHTY MEN HERE IN CHANDLER.
IT'S GOING TO BE RECOGNIZED, COME TO REMEMBER LANDO NOTHING TONIGHT MIRROR.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK
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ANNOUNCEMENTS.I KNOW WE'RE ALL READY TO GO HOME FROM A LONG DAY, BUT I DID WANT TO JUST RECOGNIZE AGAIN, UH, THE EFFORTS OF OUR TEAM AT THE AIRPORT ON THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN, THE COUNCIL APPROVED TONIGHT, UM, AS SOME OF YOU KNOW, BEFORE BECOMING YOUR ACTING CITY MANAGER, I WAS THE ACTING AIRPORT MANAGER FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS.
SO I WAS VERY INVOLVED WITH THIS PROJECT, BUT WE HAD A STELLAR TEAM THAT REALLY WORKED VERY HARD TO PUT THIS TOGETHER OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF.
AND I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE BOLDER AIRPORT PLANS THAT WE'VE DONE AND WILL CERTAINLY CONTRIBUTE TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HERE IN CHANDLER.
SO JUST WANTED TO, AGAIN, THANK MR. SMITH AND CHANDLER, UH, AIR SERVICE, BUT ALSO, UH, CHRISANDRA IS OUR AIRPORT PLANNING ADMINISTRATOR, RYAN REEVES, OUR AIRPORT BUSINESS COORDINATORS HERE TONIGHT.
STEPHEN TURNER IS OUR CURRENT ACTING AIRPORT MANAGER.
OUR TEAM FROM KAPPA WAS VERY INVOLVED IN THAT PROJECT AS WELL.
AND ALSO THOUGH HE LEFT EARLY, UH, DAVE SPERLING, WHO WHO'S THE CHAIRMAN OF THE CHANDLER AIRPORT COMMISSION WAS A VERY STRONG VOICE AND LEADER ON THIS PROJECT FROM BEGINNING TO END.
SO JUST WANTED TO THANK THEM PUBLICLY FOR THEIR EFFORTS.
FINALLY, JUST WANTED TO REMIND COUNCIL.
UH, WE HAVE HAD MANY COUNCIL MEETINGS THIS WEEK, AND I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR TIME AND EFFORT, UH, SPENT HERE, UH, WORKING THESE IMPORTANT ISSUES.
UM, BUT TOMORROW IS YOUR LAST COUNCIL MEETINGS FOR THE WEEK.
SO EIGHT 15, UH, TOMORROW MORNING HERE FOR THE ALL DAY BUDGET BRIEFING, WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN JUST A FEW HOURS.
AND WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES OUR MEETING.