[ Call to Order]
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WELCOME TO THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.WE ARE GLAD TO HAVE ALL OF YOU HERE WITH US TONIGHT ON FEBRUARY 25TH.
THIS PROMISES TO BE A PRETTY LONG MEETING.
SO WE WILL GET MOVING IN THIS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE THAN CALLING THIS NOW TO ORDER CLERK, PLEASE TAKE THE ROLE HERE, HERE.
THAT'S A MEMBER OF HARRIS COUNTY MEMBER LOPEZ HERE.
THAT'S A MEMBER ALICE COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO.
UM, TONIGHT OUR INVOCATION WILL BE BROUGHT FORTH BY PASTOR MARK ROSSINGTON OF EPIPHANY LUTHERAN CHURCH AND OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY COUNCIL MEMBER, CHRISTINE ELLIS, PASTOR.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS THAT THIS CITY OFFERS TO US MAJOR EMPLOYERS, AN EXCELLENT CITY DEPARTMENTS AND INCLUDING OUR POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE EXCELLENT CITY PARKS AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES THAT WE ENJOY AS RESIDENTS.
AND WE THANK YOU FOR A CITY GOVERNMENT.
WE PRAY FOR OUR CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT THAT YOU GIVE THEM WISDOM TO GOVERN, UH, MYTHS, CONFLICTING INTERESTS, COMPASSION FOR THOSE WHO SUFFER ECONOMIC DISTRESS, THAT THEY WOULD HOPE UPHOLD JUSTICE AND MERCY AND WORK TOGETHER IN HARMONY, WHERE THERE IS DISAGREEMENT.
AND FINALLY, WE ASKED FOR AN END TO THIS PANDEMIC JESUS' NAME.
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, PASTOR, I SAW YOU GAVE A EQUAL ALLEGIANCE TO FIRE AND POLICE.
THAT'S HARASSING TED ALSO SERVES AS THE CHAPLAIN TO OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ONGOING SERVICE THERE AS WELL.
[1. Citizen Bond Exploratory Committee Executive Summary by Chairman Boyd Dunn]
UH, NEXT ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT IS A BRIEFING WE HAVE FROM OUR CITIZEN BOND COMMITTEE, EXECUTIVE SUMMARY BY CHAIRMAN BOYD, DUNN COUNSEL.AS YOU KNOW, WE HAD A VERY DIVERSE AND, UH, UH, GROUP OF VOICES, A LARGE GROUP OF VOICES THAT CAME TOGETHER FOR THIS BOND COMMITTEE, UH, CHAIRED BY FORMER MAYOR BOYD DUNN.
WHO'S NOW SERVING IN THIS CAPACITY.
SO WITHOUT BELEAGUERING THIS, UH, CHAIRMAN DOUG, THANK YOU.
AND THE COUNCIL FOR YOUR VISION IN TERMS OF BRINGING SO MANY CITIZENS TOGETHER.
I THINK IT PROBABLY SET A RECORD FOR THE VALLEY IN TERMS OF HOW MANY CITIZENS GOT TOGETHER AND REALLY WORKED HARD AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS AND TO HELP YOU MAKE THE FINAL DECISION.
SO I'M GLAD TO SAY THIS WILL BE THE FINAL UPDATE OF THE CITIZEN BOARD EXPLORATORY COMMITTEE.
AND I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT GOING THROUGH THE HIGHLIGHTS OF OUR FINAL RESOLUTION OF, OF ISSUES.
UH, AS YOU KNOW, YOU RECEIVED AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY ALREADY IN WRITING WITH MUCH MORE DETAIL.
I PROMISE TO GO THROUGH AS QUICKLY AS I CAN AND JUST HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS AN EXPLORATORY COMMITTEE, AS YOU KNOW, IS MADE UP OF TWO ENTITIES.
ONE IS THE STEERING COMMITTEE OF SEVEN INDIVIDUALS, AND THEN WE HAVE SEVEN SUBCOMMITTEES OF SEVEN INDIVIDUALS WITH EACH, EACH ONE REPRESENTING SOME 49 CITIZENS I'M INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS AND THAT HAS MADE IT CERTAINLY VERY EXCITING TO BE WITH.
AND, UM, AND THE, THE STEERING COMMITTEE IS MADE UP BY THE CHAIRS OF ALL THE SUBCOMMITTEES THERE IN THE AREAS OF FINANCE PARKS, PUBLIC WORKS, PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES, AIRPORT, AND, UH, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.
I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE, UH, THE CHAIRS OF, UH, MANY OF THEM ARE HERE EITHER PERSONALLY.
AND I THINK THEY'RE ALL HERE EITHER PERSONALLY OR BY VIRTUAL APPEARANCE.
AND THESE INDIVIDUALS DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB OF WORKING WITH THEIR RESPECTIVE AREAS, WORKING WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE AND REALLY HELPING US TO BRING TOGETHER IT REALLY A CONSENSUS TO BRING THEM, BRING BACK TO THIS COUNCIL.
WE HAVE TOURNEY DONOVAN WITH PUBLIC SAFETY.
UH, IF YOU COULD STAND IF YOU HERE MARK GILDERSLEEVE WITH IT.
AND WE HAVE, UM, RON HARDEN PUBLIC WORKS, TED HUNTINGTON WITH PARKS, NINA MULLINS WITH FACILITIES AND DAVID SPEARING WITH AIRPORT AND TREAD.
HE IS, UH, WITH US, UH, VIRTUALLY.
SO, UM, THESE, THESE INDIVIDUALS REALLY WERE THE CORE OF WORKING, UH, WITH THESE, UH, WITH THESE ISSUES AND BRINGING
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THESE RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU.AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THEM AS YOU CAN SAY, AS YOU CAN SEE WAS A SEVEN MONTH PROCESS OF WORKING THROUGH THESE ISSUES, STARTING IN SEPTEMBER WITH THE INITIAL MEETING OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE, AND THEN THE SUBCOMMITTEE HAS GOT TOGETHER, AND THIS IS WHERE THEY HAD SOME FUN.
THEY WENT OUT AND TOURED THE FACILITIES THEY HEARD FROM THE DIRECTORS.
THEY TALKED TO VARIOUS INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, AND THEY WORKED UP WISHLIST AND WE ENCOURAGED THEM TO COME AND BRING UP WISHLIST WITH THEIR OWN IDEAS, UH, WITH THE IDEAS OF COUNCIL, THROUGH THE CIP AND VARIOUS OTHER ITEMS. AND, UH, WE RECEIVED THOSE.
AND THEN THE WORK CHANGED BY LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS WENT TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND THE FINANCE COMMITTEE LOOK VERY CAREFULLY AT THE FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS, LOOKING AT THE CAPITAL STRUCTURE, LOOKING AT HOW MANY PROJECTS WE CAN DO FINANCIALLY AND STAY WITH A GOAL OF BEING ABLE TO DO AS MANY PROJECTS AS POSSIBLE WITHOUT ANY INCREASE NEAR THE PRIMARY OR THE SECONDARY PROPERTY TAXES.
THE PUBLIC COMMUNICATION WAS A, A PROCESS THAT OCCURRED QUICKLY KAPPA LAUNCHED THE PUBLIC INFORMATION CAMPAIGN NOVEMBER AFTER TALKING TO ALL THE VARIOUS MEMBERS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
A NEW SECTION ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE WAS CREATED TO BE A HUB FOR ALL INFORMATION AT SHANDLER, AC.GOV/BOND ELECTION, UM, ALL AGENDAS MINUTES, ANY ANY PRESENTATIONS MADE ANY SUBCOMMITTEE IS ON THAT SITE.
SO EVERYTHING EVERY SUBCOMMITTEE DID AND THE STEERING COMMITTEE ITSELF IS ON, ON THE, UM, ON THE WEBSITE FOR THE PUBLIC TO, UH, TO LOOK AT, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS AND ARTICLES REAL, OR AT LEAST IN NOVEMBER, AND THEN ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE'LL OF COURSE, GO ON THIS WEBSITE, AS WE, AS A COUNCIL DOES THIS JOB.
AND CERTAINLY DURING THE, DURING THE CAMPAIGN, IF THE COUNCIL SENDS THIS TO, TO THE VOTERS, SO THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT TOOL AND WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD PUBLIC FEEDBACK THROUGH THIS WEBSITE.
NOW THE CITY OF CHANDLER BOND HISTORY IS INTERESTING.
I ACTUALLY FORGOT ABOUT SOME OF THESE, UH, BOND ELECTIONS.
WE'VE HAD THREE MOST RECENTLY IN 2000, 2004 IN 2007.
UM, SOME OF THEM WERE TWO, THREE YEARS, UH, FOUR YEARS APART, OBVIOUSLY 2007 HAS BEEN 13 YEARS, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE BOND ELECTIONS WERE DONE DURING THE PERIODS OF ENORMOUS GROWTH.
AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, THAT COUNCIL MEMBER LANDER, YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER SOME OF THESE BOND ELECTIONS, UH, UH, I WAS MAYOR FOR TWO OF THEM AND I WAS ON THE COUNCIL WITH ONE.
SO, UM, THERE WERE IMPORTANT ITEMS TO, TO DEAL WITH WHAT WE FELT WERE WHERE THE NEED TO PROVIDE FOR FACILITIES FOR OUR CITIZENS TO IN OUR ROW.
NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT NOT ONLY DEALING WITH NEW FACILITIES FOR BUILDUP, BUT ALSO LOOKING AT IMPROVING THE EXISTING FACILITIES.
AND, UM, WE CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE A BOND ELECTION IS AS HIGH AS IN 2007, BUT THANK GOODNESS WE HAVE AN, AN AMOUNT THERE.
THE VOTERS APPROVED, WE HAVE SOME AUTHORIZATION WE'VE MADE IT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOND HISTORY, YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE STAY AT.
UH, WE DO NOT AS A CITY AND THE COUNCIL WELL, WELL KNOWS THIS, THAT, UH, USING DEBT IS NOT THE WAY WE PAY FOR EVERYTHING.
UH, IMPACT FEES WERE A MAJOR CONTRIBUTOR OVER THE YEARS, AND WE CERTAINLY FIND OTHER WAYS TO PROVIDE FOR OUR GROWTH.
SO CHANDLER SITS ON THE FAR LEFT SIDE THERE IN TERMS OF USING BOND AUTHORIZATION, UM, SINCE 2000 AND OUR SUCCESS RATE IN TERMS OF VOTER APPROVAL IS HIGH.
AND CERTAINLY A COUPLE OF COMMUNITIES HAD SOME ISSUES AND HAVING THE VOTERS APPROVING THE, UH, THE REQUESTS OF OTHER COUNCILS, THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE FIVE AREAS HAS COME DOWN TO ONLY FIVE IN PARKS AND FIRE AND POLICE AND FACILITIES AND STREETS.
THEY'RE SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS WITH THE NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN HONED VERY CAREFULLY TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE CAN PROVIDE AS MANY PROJECTS AS WE CAN, AND STILL BE UNDER THAT FINANCIAL CONSTRAINT OF HAVING NO INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAXES.
NOW, THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHARTS ON THE, ON THE RIGHT SIDE, YOU CAN SEE HOW THESE THINGS DEVELOPED.
AS I INDICATED, THE SUBCOMMITTEE HAS REVIEWED AND EVALUATED 80 POSSIBLE BOND PROJECTS, TOTALING $852 MILLION.
THAT'S A LOT OF PROJECTS AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT, UH, THAT PIED OUT OR DIVIDED OUT IN THAT INITIAL, UM, REPRESENTATION.
THEN THE SUBCOMMITTEES PRIORITIZE THE PROJECTS USING A OR B LISTS AS SHORT, SHORT, AND EXCUSE ME, LONG-TERM NEEDS.
AND THEN THE SUBCOMMITTEES MEMBERS HAD OPPORTUNITIES TO ADD PROJECTS.
THEY FELT WERE IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY AND THEN RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, WHAT WAS FINALLY MADE INCLUDING 52 PROJECTS, TOTALING $403,747,000.
AND THEN THIS IS WHERE WE HAD TO LOOK AT THE, UM, WHAT WE NEEDED A NEW AUTHORIZATION BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE HAD PRIOR AUTHORIZATION.
AND THAT'S HOW WE ARRIVED AT THE $272 MILLION FIGURE.
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THERE'LL BE THE FINAL FIGURE.SO YOU CAN SEE THE WORK OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND CERTAINLY THE STEERING COMMITTEES, UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, STARTING AT $850,000 FOR THE PROJECTS AND COMING DOWN TO 272,000, THAT REPRESENTS A RECOMMENDATION THAT DOES NOT INCREASE PRIMARY OR SECONDARY PROPERTY TAX RATES.
THAT LANGUAGE IS IN BOLD FOR A PURPOSE LET'S REVIEW WHAT THE VARIOUS SUBCOMMITTEES DID AND, UH, QUICKLY GO THROUGH THEIR PRIORITIES.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT ANY TIME, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
THE PARKS COMMITTEE SUBCOMMITTEE LOOKED AT, UH, SEVERAL GOALS.
THEY WANT TO MAINTAIN EXISTING PARKS.
SO THERE'LL BE PROJECTS IN THERE THAT IMPROVES THE EXISTING PARKS THAT WE HAVE AS A CITY.
THEY WANT TO COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION OF REGIONAL PARKS.
THEY HAD A VERY HIGH PRIORITY FOR AJA CHANDLER PARK RENOVATION.
THEY FELT THAT EVEN THOUGH THIS WAS DOWNTOWN, IT WAS A PARK THAT COULD BE USED, UM, FOR, UH, FOR EVENTS AND CITIZENS THROUGHOUT OUR CITY DOWNTOWN REPRESENTS A COLLECTION AREA FOR OUR CITIZENS.
AND THIS IS ONLY A FIRST PHASE AND THEY WERE CONVINCED THAT THE FIRST PHASE WILL DEAL MORE EFFECTIVELY WITH A RENOVATION OF THE PARK.
UH, INSTEAD OF, UH, REBUILDING, THERE'LL BE BILLING NEW AND ALSO DEALING WITH SOME SAFETY ISSUES.
UM, THE COMPLETION OF MESQUITE GROVES REGIONAL PARK WAS, IT WAS EXTREME HIGH, UM, PRIORITY IN THE SENSE THAT THIS WAS APPROVED IN 2007 IN THE BOND AUTHORIZATION.
AND SO THEY ARE INSISTING THAT WE COMPLETE PHASES TWO AND THREE IN THAT LAST REGIONAL PARK THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF CHANDLER AND THEN FULLY PARK RENOVATION HAS A NUMBER OF RENOVATIONS THAT THEY FEEL WERE CRITICAL AND THAT WAS INCLUDED.
AND THAT'S CERTAINLY A HISTORICAL PARK FOR THE CITY MAYOR.
BUT YEAH, A COUPLE OF THINGS, AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T ANSWER, SO I'LL ASK DON THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE A LITTLE MORE DETAILED, BUT DOES THE AUTHORIZATION FROM PREVIOUS BOND ELECTIONS, DO THEY EXPIRE ONCE WE DO THIS NEW ONE OR WE CONTINUE WITH THOSE THAT WAS THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, IT DOES NOT EXPECT SO GOOD.
SO WE STILL HAVE THAT BALANCE OF, UH, OF DOLLARS LEFT THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY UTILIZE.
THERE'S THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THIS EQUATION.
IT, IT IS, UM, ON THAT SLIDE, IT DOES SHOW THE REMAINING AMOUNT AND THEN WHAT THE DELTA IS, IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS COLLECTION.
AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION, UM, FORMER MAYOR, HOW'S THAT? UH, THAT'S OKAY, GOOD, GOOD FRIEND OF MINE.
UM, PITTSBURGH, DID WE, DID WE, UH, DO WE HAVE A LIST OF THE ITEMS THAT DIDN'T MAKE THE CUT AND WILL THAT BE INCLUDED IN THIS? SO IT'S JUST AN FYI LIST THAT MADE THE CO DID NOT MAKE THE CUT, DID NOT MAKE THE CUT, I'LL BE REFERRING TO SOME OF THOSE ITEMS. UM, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE, WE'RE LISTING THE ITEMS THAT, UH, DEFINITELY MADE MAY THE COTS EMPHASIZE THE FACT THAT WE, UH, WE'VE WE FOCUSED ON OTHER COMMITTEES FELT SURE THAT THOSE WERE THE CRITICAL ITEMS, BUT, UM, WELL, I CAN CERTAINLY GET MORE INFORMATION.
SHE HAS THOSE ITEMS AND I MAY CUT, I'LL MENTION A FEW OF THOSE AS WE GO THROUGH THE COMMITTEES.
AND THEN REAL QUICK, MY THIRD QUESTION IS UP TO YOU AS WELL.
UM, I NOTICED IN THE PARKS, DO WE HAVE SOME SUSTAINABILITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS WHEN WE LOOKED AT THESE PARKS AND THE RENOVATION ASPECT OF IT? WELL, I THINK THAT COULD BE ANSWERED BY BY STAFF, BUT I THINK SOMETIMES WE FELT VERY IMPORTANT THAT SOME OF THESE PARKS HAD TO BE SUSTAINED RIGHT.
AND THAT'S WHY A SECTION OF THE BOND AUTHORIZATION WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT.
AND SOME ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS, THINGS LIKE THAT AS WELL, UH, THROUGH THE AMERICAS FROM ORLANDO ON ANY PROJECT, ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS ARE ALSO REVIEWED.
SO CERTAINLY THAT'S PART OF IT AS WELL.
UM, AND I DID WANT TO CLARIFY THAT ANY OF THESE PROJECT LISTS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED FOR EACH CATEGORY, THERE'S A COLUMN ON THE VERY RIGHT HAND SIDE THAT WILL TELL ANY, EVERY PROJECT DISCUSSED AS LISTED.
UM, AND IF IT'S IN THE BOND AUTHORIZATION OR IF ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE OR A FUTURE BOND ELECTION IS BEING DIRECTED.
UM, AND OUR CUSTOMER ORLANDO, YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE PARKS SUBCOMMITTEE, RIGHT? WE'RE A PORTION OF FOLEY PARK IS EXTENDED OUT BECAUSE WE FELT THAT THERE WERE CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE WITH FOLEY.
AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS A MORE ELABORATE REDESIGN, THE POOL FACILITY THAT WE THOUGHT COULD BE DEALT WITH LATER.
NO, I THINK THERE WAS A, CERTAINLY AN ATTITUDE OF WANTING TO DO EVERYTHING, BUT AGAIN, TO BE ABLE TO, TO, UH, ON A FISCAL BASIS AND AVOID ANY SORT OF TAX IMPACT, WE HAD TO MAKE CHOICES, CHAIRMAN DUNN, UM, CITY MANAGER, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IN SO FAR CONTENT MEMBER ORLANDO AND THE REST OF US, ALL THE PROJECTS WERE LISTED IN THE DOCUMENT THAT WAS SENT TO US.
AND THOSE THAT PASSED THE GRADE AS WELL AS THE OVERALL LIST THAT WE CAN LOOK BACK AND PROVE.
IS THAT CORRECT MAYOR THAT'S CORRECT.
YEAH, I GUESS THE OTHER EXAMPLES WHERE THERE'S MORE ITEMS ON THE FAR RIGHT-HAND SIDE, THOSE ARE THE ITEMS THAT DID NOT MAKE THE CUT
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AND THEY'RE BEING REPRESENTED PERHAPS FOR FUTURE BOND AUTHORIZATIONS, RIGHT? UM, UH, LIBRARY PROJECTS, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THERE'S ONLY A PORTION THAT THE, UH, CERTAIN COMMITTEE FELT WOULD BE NECESSARY FOR THE IMMEDIACY IN TERMS OF IMPROVING THE PARKS AND THERE'S REMAINING AUTHORIZATION FOR FUTURE YEARS.AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ITEM TO KEEP AUTHORIZATION THAT CAN BE USED BY THIS COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE PUBLIC SAFETY.
FIRST OF ALL, FIRE THE SUB COMMITTEE TOWARD THE FIRE STATIONS, TWO 82 AND TWO 81 PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING FOR CENTER AND SEVERAL RESPONSE VEHICLES.
AND THERE ARE TWO ITEMS THAT CAME TO THE FOREFRONT.
ONE WAS TO REBUILD FIRE STATION TWO 82 ON EXISTING FOOTPRINT.
NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, IS THAT A FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO.
THAT'S HOW I REFER TO, BUT TWO 82.
UM, AND WE HEARD, UM, I'M CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL AND LOVE WHAT I'M SAYING HERE YOU ARE WELL AWARE OF THAT'S ONE OF THE HIGHEST USE FACILITIES, UH, IN THESE VALLEY.
AND IT'S TRULY OUT OF DATE IN TERMS OF, OF A SIZE AND FACILITY.
AND THEN THE COMMITTEE MAY HAVE VERY IMPORTANT DECISION.
YOU'RE THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO REBUILD AND THE STEERING COMMITTEE.
SO WE BUILD FIRE STATION TWO 84 VERSUS A RENOVATION DUE TO ONGOING MAINTENANCE COSTS.
SO WE FELT THAT WAS A BILLION THAT WOULD BE, WOULD BE CRITICAL.
THERE WAS SOME OTHER FUNDING SOURCES FOR FUTURE BOND ELECTION THAT'S ON THE FAR, RIGHT FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE REQUESTED, UH, PROJECTS WERE INCLUDED UNDER THIS BOND AUTHORIZATION WITH PUBLIC SAFETY, WITH THE POLICE SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, THE SUB COMMITTEE TOWARD THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING CENTER, THE POLICE MAIN STATION AND SEVERAL RESPONSE VEHICLES.
AND THEY THOUGHT THE HIGHEST PRIORITY WAS FOR A NEW FORENSIC SERVICES FACILITY TO ALLOW FOR NEW SPECIALTIES TO BE DEVELOPED.
AND I THINK THROUGH A TOUR OF THE POLICE STATION, THEY SAW HOW PREPPED THE CURRENT FORENSIC AREAS ARE.
AND THAT WE'RE SO LIMITED AS A CITY IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO INVESTIGATE ALL POSSIBLE CRIMES.
SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A STANDALONE FACILITY THAT WILL BE BUILT NEXT TO THE EVIDENCE EVIDENCE STORAGE FACILITY.
AND YOU CAN SEE IT AS A PRETTY, UM, PRETTY HIGH NUMBER OF $38 MILLION, BUT THAT'S INCLUDING THE BUILDING.
AND OF COURSE THE INFRASTRUCTURE OR THE NECESSARY EQUIPMENT I'D IMAGINE.
BUT, UM, WHAT THAT ALSO DOES, IT WILL ALLOW FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE COMMUNICATION AND INVESTIGATION BUREAU INTO THE EXISTING FORENSIC SECTION SPACE.
SO WE'LL GIVE THOSE IMPORTANT, UH, FACILITIES, UH, COMMUNICATION NINE 11 AND OTHER, UH, UH, DEPARTMENTS INCLUDE IN OUR PRESENCE, UH, HEADQUARTERS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE ROOM TO EXPAND.
SO THESE ARE THE LISTED ITEMS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I MADE NOTE THAT THE ONE ITEM HERE THAT'S ON THE FAR RIGHT-HAND SIZE IS A DETENTION FACILITY.
COUNCILMAN MILLENNIA BROUGHT THAT UP LAST TIME.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE WRESTLED WITH ENORMOUSLY.
UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN I WAS TOLD BY THE POLICE CHIEF, THE SCOTTSDALE HAS ONE, I SAID, WELL, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A BIGGER ONE, BUT, UH, BUT, UH, UM, UH, WILLIE, ONE OF THE THINGS WE REALIZED AND WE STAY TRUE TO THE POLICIES AT THIS COMMITTEE, THIS COMMISSION HAS SET IS THAT IF WE DO ANYTHING, THE OPERATION OF MAINTENANCE HAS TO COME ALONG WITH THE ITEM.
AND WE FOUND OUT THAT THAT WAS $3.3 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL OPERATIONAL MAINTENANCE.
THAT'D BE IMMEDIATE IN TERMS OF HIRING EXTRA PERSONNEL.
AND THAT DID REPRESENT AN INCREASE IN THE PRIMARY TAX.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT THAT IN DISCUSSING THIS WITH THE DEPARTMENT, THAT THERE'S A FEELING THAT OUR PARTNERSHIP WAS A VERY POSITIVE ONE CAN CONTINUE WITH THE STATE OF GILBERT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS WITHOUT ANY ISSUE.
AND THAT IS CERTAINLY AS AN IMPROVEMENT FOR HAVING TO GO DOWNTOWN IN TERMS OF DETENTION.
AND THAT'S, UM, THAT'S PROBABLY IMPORTANT FOR GUILT, BUT ALSO TO HAVE OUR PARTNERSHIP FOR THE TIME BEING.
SO IT'S A MATTER OF TIMING AND THIS COUNCIL CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE FOR THE DETENTION CENTER WHEN, UM, WHEN APPROPRIATE.
AND CERTAINLY WHEN THE OPERATION MAINTENANCE AND THE BUDGET ALLOWS IT TO OCCUR MANY QUESTIONS.
WELL, YEAH, YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB, SIR.
THIS IS A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT WORKED OFF OF A RECENT, A FACILITY ASSESSMENT OF 47 CITY FACILITIES DISCUSSION CENTERED AROUND THE FACILITIES WITH THE GREATEST NEEDS.
AND THE TOP SEVEN FACILITIES NEEDING IMPROVEMENTS WERE INCLUDED WITH A HIGHEST RECOMMENDATION.
AND, UM, THIS IS GOING TO BE A NEW BALLOT QUESTION, NEVER ON THE BALLOT BEFORE, UM, IN TERMS OF, OF, OF DEALING WITH, UM, UH, DEALING WITH FACILITIES AND THE NEED TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT OUR EXISTING FACILITIES WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE A USEFUL LIFE.
AND SOME OF THOSE FACILITIES WILL INCLUDE THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, THE LIBRARIES, CITY COURT, BOYS, AND GIRLS CLUB, AND THE LIKE, AND THAT'S, WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT THE, UH, THE AUTHORIZATION AND THIS WAS A BALANCED APPROACH, UH, FOR BOND FUNDED AND CASH FUNDED, UM, THE CITY, UM, UH, WE WERE, I WAS GLAD TO JUST CERTAINLY HAVE THE SUBCOMMITTEES WERE GLAD TO HEAR THAT WE DO HAVE CASH AVAILABLE ON SOME OF THESE ITEMS. SO THAT
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HELPED OUT THE PUBLIC WESNER.UH MARIDON I APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE INSIGHT ON THE, UM, LAST ITEM, THE SYLLABI SUBCOMMITTEE.
WE HAD A MEETING A FEW MONTHS BACK CITY MANAGER ABOUT DOING AN ANALYSIS OF MAYBE DOWNSIZING SOME OF THESE SINCE WE'RE MOVING REMOTE WORK AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I DON'T THINK OUR BOND COMMITTEE WOULD HAVE HAD PRIVY TO THAT INFORMATION, OR MAYBE THEY DID.
UM, IS THAT GOING TO BE FACTORED INTO THIS, OR IS THIS SOMETHING MAYBE WE SHOULD TABLE FOR A LATER DATE? OR WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS THROUGH THE MAYOR VICE MAYOR? SO, UM, THE, UM, SPACE UTILIZATION STUDY THAT WE YOU'RE SPEAKING OF IS CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THEN, UH, IT WILL BE COMING TO COUNCIL FOR AWARD FOR THE CONSULTANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
AND, UM, BUT WITH THIS PROCESS, THE FACILITIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE FOCUSED ARE THE ONES THAT WE KNOW FOR SURE IN THE NEED TO STAY CENTER FOR THE ARTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO IT IS DEFINITELY FOCUSED ON THAT PIECE, BUT AS CHAIRMAN DAN DID SAY, THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE WE MOVED A BIG PORTION OF THAT TO CASH.
SO THAT GIVES COUNCIL A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY INTO THE FUTURE, DEPENDING ON HOW THAT SPACE UTILIZATION STUDY COMES OUT OF THE THANK YOU.
THERE IS FLEXIBILITY IN ALL THESE PROJECTS FOR THE COUNCIL, MAKING THE FINAL DECISION AS TO THE PROJECTS, UH, EVEN WITH THE AUTHORIZATION, WHAT, WHAT WE THOUGHT OUR RESPONSIBILITY WAS, WAS TO SHOW THE, UM, AUTHORIZATION POSSIBLE IN EACH CATEGORY.
UM, UNDER THE, UM, FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS THAT WE HAVE, THE PUBLIC WORKS SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, THE SUBCOMMITTEE USE PROJECTS AND THE CURRENT CIP AS PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION.
AND TO A LARGE DEGREE, WE, WE HAD THE BENEFIT OF WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS DONE MOST RECENTLY, NOT ONLY THE UPDATE CIP, BUT ALSO I'LL TALK LATER ABOUT THE UPDATE TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT WAS DONE IN 2019.
THOSE FACTORS GAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION AS TO WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES WERE, AND THEY WERE INCORPORATED BY THE SUB DOMAINS.
UH, THEY FOCUSED ON THE TRANSIT, THE ACT OF TRANSIT, THE STREETS PROJECTS FROM RECENT TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN.
THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED, UH, TO THE CIP AND THE FINANCE SUBCOMMITTEE EVALUATE THE FINANCIAL OPTIONS BASED ON THE OPERATIONS OF MAINTENANCE AND NEW PROJECTS.
AND OBVIOUSLY THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE YOU HAVE WHEN, WHEN IT COMES TO OWEN ARE THE TRANSIT, UH, TRANSIT PROJECTS.
AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S TWO TRANSIT PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED ON THE FAR RIGHT-HAND SIDE.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF THAT, WE CAN DO, UH, NOT ONLY IN THE TRANSIT AREA, BUT ALSO AN ACTIVE TRANSIT THAT WE UNDERSTOOD FROM THE COUNCIL WAS A PRIORITY IN TERMS OF CITIZENS WANTING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE BIKE PATHS AND THINGS OF THAT SORT THAT WAS IN CORPORATE.
SO AGAIN, A BALANCED APPROACH, BOND FUNDED VERSUS CASH FUNDED WITH THE OTHER PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS.
UH, OBVIOUSLY STREETS, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A PRIORITY IN EVERY BOND QUESTION WE'VE HAD.
AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT WITH THE EXPANSION OF OUR TRAIL STREETS, THE RECONSTRUCTION TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY OF INTERSECTION INTERSECTIONS, IMPROVE SAFETY AND TO COMPLETE COLLECTOR STREETS, WHERE THERE IS NO DEVELOPER PARTICIPATION ANTICIPATED.
AND YOU CAN SEE ALL THOSE PROJECTS ARE UNDER THE BOND PROJECTED AMOUNTS WITH REGARD TO STORM SEWER PROJECTS, THEY'RE ALL INCLUDED.
SO THAT OF COURSE REDUCES FLOOD RISK DOWNTOWN.
THAT WAS A HIGH PRIORITY AND OTHER MISCELLANEOUS IMPROVEMENTS WITH REGARD TO PUBLIC WORKS ON THE UTILITY SIDE.
THIS WAS A UNIQUE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, UH, THE SUBCOMMITTEES UNDERSTOOD, AND THE STEERING COMMITTEE LEARNED THAT CAPITAL NEEDS ARE FUNDED BY, BY ISSUING BONDS, BUT THE DEBT IS BRED TO THE, UM, TO THE RAY PAIRS OVER TIME, WHICH ALLOW CURRENT AND FUTURE USERS TO PAY FOR THE SYSTEMS. AND THAT'S WHAT IS, IS, UM, IS SO SUSCEPTIBLE TO CITIZENS.
THEY KNOW THAT EVERYONE'S PAYING INTO THE, UH, THE COST OF BUILDING THOSE VERY EXPENSIVE CAPITAL ITEMS, BUT WE ALSO LEARNED THAT THE REVENUE OBLIGATION AND EXCISE TAX REVENUE OBLIGATION ETRO BONDS, OR AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE FINANCING TOOL THAT DO NOT REQUIRE VOTER APPROVAL.
AND THAT HAS BEEN USED BY THE CITY MOST RECENTLY.
AND THE V AND SHANNON HAS USED ETR OWES OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS TO FUND UTILITY PROJECTS.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO USE REVENUE, BONDS, AND ETS ETR OWES FOR UTILITY PROJECTS.
SO THERE ARE NO PROJECTS UNDER THE BOND AUTHORIZATION FOR GENERAL OBLIGATION VOTER APPROVED BONDS INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY WAS A NEW AREA.
AND WE LEARNED QUITE A BIT ABOUT, UH, ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF FIBER OP OPTICS, UH, FIBER OPTIC IN THE CITY OF CHANDLER.
UH, CERTAINLY WE FOCUSED ON A SINGLE PROJECT, UH, THAT A RECENTLY COMPLETED FIBER ASSESSMENT WAS THE MAIN DISCUSSION TOPIC, UH, DONE BY THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE AND THE FINANCE SUBCOMMITTEE EVALUATED FINANCIAL OPTIONS BEFORE RECOMMENDING TO SHIFT IN THE TIRE FIBER PROJECT TO CASH FUNDING AND CASH.
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IT WAS FREED UP BY ESSENTIALLY, UH, FREEDOM FROM MOVING THE FIRE STATION TWO 82 REBUILT FROM A CASH FUNDED TO A BOND FUNDED PROJECT.SO THIS ALLOWS TECHNOLOGY TO BE THERE, OUR NEEDS IN TERMS OF FIBER BAR UNDERSTANDING TO BE MET AND DOES NOT RECRUIT DOES NOT REQUIRE A VOTER APPROVED, UH, GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS.
THE AIRPORTS, THE COMMITTEE ALSO MADE A LITTLE DETOUR.
UM, THE SUBCOMMITTEE UNANIMOUSLY SAID THAT THE COOPER ROAD COLLECTOR IMPROVEMENT WAS THE HIGHEST PRIORITY AND THE COOPER ROAD PROJECT, IT IS ALREADY INCLUDED WITH A PUBLIC WORKS BOND PACKAGE WITH ERIC, UH, AIRPORTS SUBACROMIAL FULL SUPPORT.
AND, UM, AND THE OTHER DECISION THAT WAS MADE IS THAT THERE WAS A, UH, DECISION MADE BY THE SUBCOMMITTEE UNANIMOUS ONE TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE TO RECOMMEND THAT A BOND PROJECT TO EXTEND RUNWAY FOR OUR TWO, TWO L WAS PREMATURE.
AND THAT SHOULD NOT GO TO THE VOTERS AT THIS TIME UNTIL THERE'S FURTHER DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE AIRPORT.
AND THEY FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT COOPER ROAD WHO PROVIDE THAT DEVELOPMENT ON, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AIRPORT TO, UH, MAKE THE AIRPORT MORE VIABLE, UM, BOTH IN REALITY AND PERCEPTION AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE RECOMMENDS THE ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS AND ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDIES BE COMPLETED PRIOR TO THE BOND QUESTION FOR RUNWAY EXTENSION.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT ALL THESE ITEMS, SO VERY IMPORTANT ITEMS TO BE DONE IN THE AIRPORT, OR IT COULD BE MADE, UM, THROUGH, UM, UM, UH, LARGELY THROUGH LOCAL MATCH OR CASH, UH, GRANTS AND CASH.
SO THAT HAS CERTAINLY TAKEN A MAJOR.
AND IN TERMS OF FINANCIAL, I WILL STATE THAT IS YOUR POLICIES AS A COUNCIL THAT MADE AN ENORMOUS DIFFERENCE TO THE ASSISTANCE OF CHANDLER.
THEY'RE VERY IMPRESSED WITH THOSE FINANCIAL, UM, UH, FINANCIAL POLICIES AND THE FACT THAT THEY'VE BEEN FOLLOWED FOR SO MANY YEARS, THEY'RE IMPRESSED BY THE SINGLE CHANNEL OF MAINTAINING A TRIPLE A BOND RATING FROM ALL THE RATING INSTITUTIONS, UH, THIS CORRELATES TO A LOWER TAXES AND UTILITY RATES FOR RESIDENTS.
UM, THEY ARE ALSO UNDERSTOOD THAT FUTURE CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS EXCEED REMAINING BONDING AUTHORIZATION, AND THEY FOLLOW THE COUNCIL GUIDELINES TO MINIMIZE, UH, THE INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAXES TO MAINTAIN EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, TO FINISH PLAN CONSTRUCTION OF STREETS AND PARKS, TO LIMIT NEW PROJECTS, ADDING ONGOING OPERATIONAL MAINTENANCE AND TO ADDRESS PUBLIC NEEDS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY TAX RATE COMPARISON, UM, TO OTHER CITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE SEEING IN A VERY COMFORTABLE LOCATION.
NOW, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A PROPERTY TAX IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALWAYS WANT TO KEEP AN EYE ON AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, BUT IT'S A, IT'S AN, A POSITION I THINK, UM, UH, THAT, UH, THAT WILL NOT CHANGE.
THAT'S THE IMPORTANT THING WILL NOT INCREASE BASED ON THE BOND AUTHORIZATION IN ANY WAY.
NOW, WITH THESE FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS, YOU CAN SEE THIS GRAPH IS IMPORTANT GRAPH.
THAT MEANT A LOT TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE.
THE SECONDARY TAX RATE LEVY PAYS THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST ON GEO BONDS AND ACHIEVE A NO TAX RATE INCREASE.
IT REQUIRES A BALANCE BETWEEN ASSESS VALUES AND TAX RATES.
AND THE STATE HAS BEEN VERY CAREFUL TO NOT CONSTRUCT NEW FACILITIES OR PROJECTS WITHOUT DEDICATED ONGOING REVENUES TO MAINTAIN THEM.
SO THIS CHART SHOWS THE IMPACT OF BOND PROJECTS, THE ONGOING ON THEM AND THE MIDDLE DARK BLUE LINE IS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE STEERING COMMITTEE.
THIS OPTION WILL NOT INCREASE PROPERTY TAX RATES BASED ON CURRENT PROJECTIONS AND ASSESS BAG AND OTHER ITEMS THERE'S OTHER, THIS NEXT CHART IS A VERY INTERESTING ONE TO SHOW HOW IMPORTANT IS TO WORRY ABOUT THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE COST OF ANY PROJECT.
THE ONGOING REVENUES MUST BE AVAILABLE CERTAINLY FOR CAPITAL ONM INCREASES AND THE LEVEL OF ONGOING ON THEM AVAILABLE AS DETERMINED BY INCLUDING OTHER ANTICIPATED OPERATIONAL NEEDS.
AND THE CHART REFLECTS WHY CERTAIN PROJECTS WERE REMOVED FROM FINAL RECOMMENDATION, DO THE INCREASE OF PROPERTY TAX RATES THEY WOULD CAUSE, AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S TWO MAJOR ARROWS AND TO SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.
UM, IF A CENTRAL CHANNEL TRANSIT WAS ADDED, BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THE I'M NOT VERY GOOD IN COLORS IS THE, UM, IS THE ADJUSTED CIP ON HIM FOR BOND ELECTION RECOMMENDATION IS THE, UM, IS THE FIRST BAR AND NOT THE SECOND BAR.
I BELIEVE THAT'S KIND OF A RED CORRECT.
AND THE BLUE IS, IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID.
AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE CHANNEL, UH, CENTRAL ARIZONA TRANSIT WAS LIMITED.
AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF NORTHERN CHANNEL OR TRANSIT WAS WITH THE DETENTION CENTER.
THE ONM WOULD GO FAR ABOVE THAT LINE.
SO THAT LINE ALLOWS US TO KEEP BOTH THE PRIMARY AND THE SECONDARY TAX RATES AS THEY ARE.
SO WITH THE BALLOT QUESTIONS, I WILL NOT REVIEW EACH ONE, BUT I'LL SAY A FEW GENERAL ITEMS. THESE BOWEL QUESTIONS WERE REVIEWED EXTENSIVELY BY,
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UM, BY THE STEERING COMMITTEE, UH, WITH THE LEGAL COUNSEL WE FOUND OUT, AND IT WAS A PART OF AN EDUCATION THAT A LOT OF THIS LANGUAGE IS MORE OR LESS BOILERPLATE, BUT IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE AT LEAST, UH, IDENTIFYING EACH OF THESE ITEMS CLEARLY ENOUGH, BUT WITH ENOUGH LEEWAY TO ALLOW THE COUNCIL TO BRING IN PROJECTS THAT WERE BE CLEARLY, UM, CLEARLY INCLUDED, NO ONE WOULD SAY THAT, UM, THAT IT WAS NOT NECESSARILY WITHIN THESE CATEGORIES.UH, IF WE'RE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT EACH AND EVERY PROJECT, THEN, UM, WE WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM IN, IN GOING ANYWHERE ELSE.
UM, AND I'M INCLUDING ANYTHING ELSE, UH, IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE NOW, OBVIOUSLY REALIZING THAT DURING THE CAMPAIGN, WE'RE GOING TO BE OUT THERE TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS, OBVIOUSLY WHEREVER IT HOUNDS THAT CAMPAIGN.
AND SO ALL THOSE PROJECTS WOULD BE CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD BY THE VOTERS.
THIS IS WHAT THEY'LL SEE IS ABOUT QUESTION.
SO YOU HAVE THAT FOR, UM, CERTAINLY MUNICIPAL FACILITIES, BONDS FOR THE PARK AND RECREATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND FIRE BONDS, THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND POLICE BONDS.
ONE NOTE HERE, THERE WAS LOT OF DISCUSSION OF ADDING BOTH POLICE AND FIRE TOGETHER.
AND, UM, NOT THAT THE POLICE AND FIRE CAN ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, THEY CERTAINLY CAN WORK TOGETHER AT ALL TIMES.
UM, BUT, UH, UH, AND PART OF THE CONCERN WAS THAT, UM, SOME OF THE OTHER BOND QUESTIONS WERE HIGHER THAN PUBLIC SAFETY, AND PEOPLE MIGHT BE WONDERING WHY ARE WE SPENDING MORE ON PARKS NECESSARILY EVEN THAN ON PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT WE STILL, WE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT HISTORICALLY WE'VE ALWAYS HAD SEPARATE BOWED QUESTIONS IN CLEAN, BOTH, UH, POLICE AND FIRE.
SO THERE'S NO CONFUSION AS TO WHAT PORTERS ARE APPROVING.
SO THEY'VE REMAINED SEPARATE, AND I THINK WON'T BE A PROBLEM.
I MEAN, PEOPLE CAN CERTAINLY ADD THOSE TWO ENTITIES TOGETHER, IF THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE TOTAL PUBLIC SAFETY PORTION WAS COMPARED TO OTHERS.
AND, UM, THEN THE PUBLIC WORKS, DON QUESTION, AND THEN THAT CONCLUDES IT.
SO NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, PASSING THE BATON TO THE COUNCIL AND CERTAINLY LOOK FORWARD TO, TO YOUR ANALYSIS OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND CERTAINLY BE AVAILABLE TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
BUT THIS IS A CERTAIN TIMELINES WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY, BY STAFF AND BY, BY LEGAL STAFF AS TO HOW WE CAN GET TO THE POINT OF HAVING THIS PLACE ON THE BALLOT FOR THE NOVEMBER ELECTION.
AND, UM, YES, NUMBER TWO, LECTURE IN 2021.
AND THAT'S THE, UH, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THE, UH, CERTAIN COMMITTEE FELT WAS OUR RECOMMENDATION TO DO.
AND I WILL SAY AGAIN, COUNSEL, WITH, UM, WITH THIS PROCESS, I THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING MYSELF AND ASSISTANCE TO BE SO INVOLVED.
UH, WE, UH, WE HAVE GROWN IN APPRECIATION OF WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO AS ELECTED OFFICIALS WITH GROWING THE APPRECIATION, WHAT THE CITY MEANS.
WE, WE APPRECIATE THE HISTORY AND HOW CONSISTENT WE'VE BEEN AND OUR FINANCIAL POLICIES.
AND, UH, WE APPRECIATE ALLOWING SO MANY OF YOUR CITIZENS TO BE INVOLVED IN MAKING THESE RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU.
UM, I I'D LIKE TO START JUST WITH A QUESTION.
UM, NUMBER ONE TO THANK YOU TO YOU.
AND I, I DO NOTICE THERE IS A COUPLE MORE WHO WEREN'T CHAIRS, BUT SERVED ON THE COMMITTEES.
IF YOU'D PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR STAND IF YOU WERE PART OF OUR BOND COMMITTEE.
SO THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AS WELL TONIGHT.
I YOU'VE GIVEN US A, A GOOD PIECE TO GO FORWARD WITH.
AND, UM, I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN BRING THIS TO THE VOTERS AND WITH OUR COMMUNITY COME ON THE OTHER SIDE SUCCESSFUL.
SO I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE AND CONSTANTLY, IF THERE ARE OTHER ITEMS THAT, UH, COME FORTH, WE ARE CERTAINLY NOT, UM, HAMSTRUNG BY ANY MEANS TO COME FORTH WITH ANOTHER BOND, IF THERE'S CHANGES IN OUR FINANCES OR OUR DECISIONS THAT WOULD WARRANT THAT.
SO IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT, UM, WERE NOT PART OF THIS, WHETHER IT'S, UM, A FEW YEARS ARE, ARE A FEW MORE YEARS, WE HAVE THE AVAILABILITY TO GO OUT AND GET THIS AGAIN.
AND THEN ONE OTHER QUESTION, AND MAYBE FOR DON, I W I WANT TO THANK YOU ON THIS PART IN TERMS OF SECURING THAT, UH, THIS WOULDN'T RESULT IN A HIGHER PRIMARY OR SECONDARY, AND THIS REALLY ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY IN TERMS OF THE PROJECTS WOULD COME OUT OF SECONDARY, BUT OBVIOUSLY, UM, DIRECTOR DON THERE'S, WE'VE GOT OTHER DECISIONS THAT, THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT ALSO ARE PART OF OUR, LIKE THAT DIRECTOR, DON.
SO, YEAH, THAT CERTAINLY ARE PART OF OUR PRIMARY TASKS, WHETHER IT'S THE BUDGETS THAT WE PASS, THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT ARE PART OF THE FIGURE.
SO THIS GIVES US A GOOD BASELINE, AND I KNOW WE'VE BEEN VERY, UM,
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IT'S SERVED US WELL AS A CITY TO BE FISCALLY SOUND.AND, UM, THIS IS PART OF THAT, THAT PROJECTION, AM I CORRECT ON THAT DAWN MAYOR? THAT IS CORRECT.
WE HAVE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT THROUGH OUR ONGOING GENERAL FUND FORECAST, ALL OF THOSE OTHER EXPENDITURES WE HAVE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO DETERMINE WHAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
SO WE'VE GOT ONGOING DECISIONS THAT WILL ALSO KEEP US TRUE TO OUR MARK.
I KNOW THAT VICE MAYOR STARTED OFF AND YOU GOT A QUESTION AND THEN WE'LL WORK ASIDE.
AND THEN THE THING I MAY HAVE, I COULD JUST RESPOND TO A COUPLE OF ITEMS. UM, THANK YOU.
UH, ONE IS, IS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THANK THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS EVEN MORE.
SO I BELIEVE ON MARCH 1ST, MARCH 1ST, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING AND A RECEPTION, AND I KNOW THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS WANT TO BE THERE AND I WANT TO BE ABLE TO BE HERE.
AND, AND, AND, UM, AND, UH, AND JUST, UH, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALLOWING THEM TO SERVE, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE CHALLENGE WE HAD IS AS A RECOMMENDING BODY, OF COURSE, WE DIDN'T MAKE THE FINAL DECISIONS WAS TO PUT AS MANY PROJECTS IN THE POT AS WE COULD.
AND WE HAVE 80 PROJECTS, I BELIEVE, IS THAT THE TOTAL? YEAH, SOMETHING OF THAT SORT, BUT WE, WE PUT US IN THANKS TO THE HELP OF OUR STAFF, ESPECIALLY DON AND HER STAFF, UH, SAY MANAGER, BUT WE'RE ABLE TO, UH, FIND WAYS TO GET AS MANY PROJECTS IN THE SPAWN AUTHORIZATION AND KEEP THE NUMBERS AT THE PROPER LEVEL, UM, BY LOOKING AT THE SOURCES AND BY LOOKING AT THE PRIORITY OF THINGS.
AND, UM, AND I THINK THE, THE 49 PEOPLE INVOLVED WERE SO IMPRESSED WITH THAT, THAT WE, YOU KNOW, I WAS SURPRISED BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY PROJECTS TO BEGIN WITH.
IT WAS A CONSENSUS UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THE, OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT THESE PROJECTS WERE THE RIGHT ONES TO DO AT THE PRESENT TIME.
BUT AGAIN, ONLY A RECOMMENDATION.
AND, UH, I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK EVERYBODY THAT SERVED ON YOUR, YOUR COMMISSIONS AS WELL.
I MEAN, IT'S A VOLUNTEER ROLE AND IT'S RECOGNIZED BY NOT ONLY EVERYBODY HERE, BUT, UH, THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE LANGUAGE IN THAT.
IS THERE A PROCESS WILL, THERE'LL BE A TIME WHERE WE, UH, WORK AND, UH, MAYBE A SMALLER GROUP WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LANGUAGE THAT'S ACTUALLY ON THE BALLOT, OR IS THAT ALREADY, UH, UH, DONE AND, UH, AND FINAL, NO, I BELIEVE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING AS THE SUGGESTED LANGUAGE THAT CAN BE CERTAINLY IT NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY, BY THE COUNCIL.
SO I WAS EXPLAINING HOW WE, YOU KNOW, I, I DOVE INTO IT, UH, QUITE A BIT THINKING I COULD, UH, UH, I GUESS, BUT MY LEGAL BACKGROUND WOULD COME UP WITH DIFFERENT LANGUAGE, BUT OUR BOND COUNSEL IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE BEST PRESENTATION IS TO HEAR FROM THE BOND COUNSEL AS TO WHY THIS LANGUAGE IS IMPORTANT.
NOT ONLY TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS, IS THERE SOME STRANGE REQUIREMENTS IN THE LEGISLATION THAT WE HAVE LANGUAGE WE HAVE TO PUT IN ABOUT, OF COURSE, REGARDING, UH, AN INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAX WHEN THERE IS NONE, BUT TO MAKE A VERY CLEAR IN THE LANGUAGE, UH, WHAT THAT IS INVOLVING ALL THE VARIOUS CATEGORIES, BUT ALSO GIVE YOU THE LEEWAY OF NOT BEING, NOT BEING STUCK.
AND THE ONE LESSON I LEARNED WAS PERHAPS THE, WITH, UH, WITH THE, UH, UM, UH, WASTE TRANSFER STATION.
UH, THIS WAS A PROJECT THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY LISTED, UH, IN THE BOND QUESTION TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN NEVER USE THAT AUTHORIZATION, CORRECT.
OR ARE WE MAYBE ILLEGALLY WE'RE TRYING TO, BUT IT BECOMES A VERY, BECOMES A LEGAL ISSUE TO USE IT FOR OTHER ITEMS. IF YOU'RE VERY SPECIFIC AS THE PROJECT, ESPECIALLY IN THE, IN BOUT A QUESTION ITSELF, CERTAINLY THE CAMPAIGN WE'LL DISCUSS THE PROJECTS, THEN THERE'LL BE INVOLVED.
AND I THINK, AND AGAIN, I THINK FROM A PUBLIC PERSPECTIVE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE TRUST THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL THAT DIG INTO THE WEEDS ON THESE PARTICULAR PROJECTS, THE 80, OR SOME ODD, SOME ODD PROJECTS.
SO THESE OVERARCHING, A PARKS FACILITIES, THINGS LIKE THAT ARE GREAT.
SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR TAX DOLLARS ARE GOING FOR.
WILL THERE BE ANY LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT IDENTIFIES? SO IF WE DON'T PASS THIS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WILL BE YOUR HOUSEHOLD SAVINGS PER MONTH OR PER YEAR, IF THIS DOESN'T GO THROUGH, WHAT WILL THEIR PROPERTY TAX DROP? BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING SOME INCREASED TAXES BECAUSE OF THE VALUATION OF THEIR HOMES, PEOPLE THAT ARE ON FIXED INCOMES THAT, UH, THEIR, THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY ISN'T RISING AS FAST AS THEIR PROPERTY VALUES.
AND SO HOLDING RATES IS GREAT.
I MEAN, IT'S THE, FROM A PERCENTAGE PERSPECTIVE, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS AS WILL THERE BE ANYTHING IN THE BOND LANGUAGE FOR THE BOAT TO SAY, IF YOU VOTE, NO, THIS IS THE SAVINGS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE YOUR TAX RATE WILL DROP MAYOR.
I'LL PASS THAT ON THROUGH THE MAYOR, MAYOR THE OTHER DAY, A MAYOR NOT WORTH DISCUSSING.
I THINK THAT THE MAYOR IS GOING TO ONES PROBABLY HAVE IFE SHORT WORK SESSION OF COUNCIL TO DO SOME DIGGING INTO THIS.
I KNOW OUR BOND COUNCIL, UM, ALTHOUGH THEY DID COME IN AND WORK WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO COME AND ACTUALLY TALK TO COUNCIL ABOUT
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WHAT'S LEGAL.WHAT'S NOT THE APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO I THINK THERE'S STILL SOME WORK TO DO.
THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF MONTHS HERE TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS, UM, AND I'LL LEAVE IT TO THE MAYOR ON THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO REMEMBER? ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU TO MY LEFT COUNCIL MEMBER ROOM.
I TOO WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT HAS VOLUNTEERED EVERYONE THAT'S BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS, UH, MAYOR BOYD.
UH, THANK YOU FOR CHAIRING THIS, UH, THIS GROUP OF PROFESSIONALS AND THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
I WILL SAY THAT, UM, UM, I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS AND I'VE HEARD ALONG THE WAY, UH, PEOPLE, UH, HAVING CONCERNS OR A DESIRE OR FRUSTRATION ABOUT WANTING THINGS TO MOVE FORWARD IN THIS COMMUNITY.
AND, UM, AND, AND I, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS THE PROCESS FOR DOING SOME OF THAT AND THAT, UM, AND THAT WE'RE IN IT FOR THE LONG HAUL.
AND SO WHEN I'M GONE, THERE'LL BE OTHER COUNCILS, THERE'LL BE OTHER PEOPLE THAT VOLUNTEER.
AND, UH, AND, AND, AND WE ARE BLESSED AT A TIME TO SEE SOME REMARKABLE THINGS HAPPEN AT CHANDLER.
AND, UH, AND I KNOW THAT ONCE I'M GONE AND OTHERS ARE GONE, THEY'LL, UH, THERE'LL BE PEOPLE THAT WILL COME ALONG AND KEEP MOVING THE BALL AND DOING GREAT THINGS.
I KNOW THE FEELING PERSONALLY, SO, UH, YEAH, I, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UM, UH, UH, CUSTOMER ROY IT'S, I CAN JUST SAY YOU'RE BLESSED BY A STAFF THAT IS SO PROFESSIONAL IN THE CITY IN TERMS OF, UH, PROVIDING WHATEVER INFORMATION WE NEEDED AND WE ASK QUESTIONS AND THEY GOT THE INFORMATION AND, AND, AND I THINK THEY, THEY SHOULD FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE GIVING THE INFORMATION BECAUSE THERE'S A HISTORICAL, UH, ASPECT TO IT.
YOU KNOW, W WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY HAS ITS ROOTS TO WHAT OTHER COUNCIL DID IN THE PAST AND WHAT OTHER COUNSELORS WILL HOPEFULLY DO IN THE FUTURE.
SO IT WAS JUST A DELIGHT TO WORK WITH, WITH THE STAFF AND WITH ASSISTANCE ON THIS PROJECT.
I BELIEVE I HEARD COUNCIL MEMBER WROTE GETTING A LITTLE CHOKED UP THERE.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO? NO, THANK YOU.
I WANT TO ECHO APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK AND ALL THE COMMITTEE'S DONE.
I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF WORK AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UM, AS I LOOK BACK AND HERE, THE BOND ELECTIONS, I LOOKED BACK WHAT'S SOME OF THE POLARIZING DISCUSSIONS WE'RE HAVING TODAY AT NATIONAL LEVEL, EVEN THE STATE LEVEL, WHAT WILL GOVERNMENT IS THE LAST TRUSTED ENTITY IN MY MIND, AND THE FACT THAT WE HAD CITIZENS INVOLVED, THE FACT THAT WE HAD GREAT LEADERSHIP INVOLVEMENT, STAFF, THIS SENSE OF VERY TRUSTFUL POSITIVE MESSAGE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'D DONE, OUR HOMEWORK, WE ELIMINATED THINGS THAT WE FELT WAS NOT, YOU KNOW, BE ITEMS. THAT'S WHY I ASKED ABOUT THE B LIST AND THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD, UH, AS WE DONE ANOTHER BOND ELECTIONS, YOU COULD TRUST US TO BE, UM, FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBLE WITH YOUR DOLLARS AND GET THE AMEND THESE YOU DO WANT TO SEE FROM THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
SO, LIKE I SAID, I APPRECIATE THE TRUST YOU PUT INTO THIS.
I THINK IT'S ARE ON A BURDEN ON US NOW TO CONTINUE THAT TRUST.
AND THEN WE DO THE BOND COMMITTEE OF OBS TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP, UH, FOR AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE ELECTION PIECE OF THIS DONE, UH, THAT, THAT, AGAIN, WILL PLAY, PLAY A VERY LARGE INTO THIS.
SO I THANK YOU FOR, FOR BEING A TRUSTED ADVISOR IN THIS, OKAY.
COUNSELOR ORLANDO, AND THOSE ARE WISE WORDS.
AND, AND I, YOU KNOW, I THINK FROM A LOCAL LEVEL, PEOPLE HAVE TRUST IN THEIR GOVERNMENT.
AND THE PERFECT EXAMPLE IS THAT THERE WERE TWO BOND QUESTIONS THAT WERE ON THE 2020 BALLOT IN THE MIDDLE OF, OF, OF COVID THAT PASSED TOTALLY ACROSS THE BOARD WITH TEMPE AND MESA.
IT WAS ONE THAT DID NOT, THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE, BUT TWO, TWO IN THE EAST VALLEY THAT DID.
AND THAT, THAT SHOWS THAT CITIZENS TRUST WHAT THEIR LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE DOING AND ARE WILLING TO EVEN MOVE FORWARD AND DEAL WITH IMPROVING THEIR CITY, EVEN WITH, YOU KNOW, THE UNCERTAINTY OF THEIR LIVES FINANCIALLY AND OTHERWISE.
SO I WAS AMAZED THAT CITIES ACTUALLY CHOSE OUT ELECTION DAY.
THEY PROBABLY DID, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN WHEN THE PANDEMIC CAME, BUT, UH, UH, BUT I, I AGREE WITH YOU.
I THINK THERE'S ENORMOUS TRUST.
AND, AND IF WE DO THINGS RIGHT, AND THE COUNCIL WILL CERTAINLY MAKE THOSE DECISIONS IN A VERY CAREFUL AND THOUGHT OUT WAY, UM, I THINK THE VOTERS WILL BE THERE.
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COUNSEL.NEXT ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.
WE HAD OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THESE ITEMS AS QUESTIONS ON MONDAY.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ARE COMMENTS, OTHERWISE EMOTION WOULD BE APPROPRIATE HERE.
I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR FEBRUARY 25TH ITEMS ONE THROUGH 2330,
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RIGHT? THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND BY TRANSCEND MEMBER ELLIS, UH, COUNCIL, ANY, ANY, UH, WORDS OF RE ANY BEFORE WE VOTE? OKAY.
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NEXT ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT, WE HAVE A COUPLE ACTION ITEMS AND I DO HAVE A FEW SPEAKER CARDS ON ONE ON BOTH OF THEM ACTUALLY, BUT ITEM NUMBER 31, I'M FIRST GOING TO CALL STAFF UP TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.I WILL CALL UP THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.
WE'LL CALL UP THOSE WHO HAVE, UH, WHO HAVE BROUGHT FORTH SPEAKER CARDS.
AND IN THIS TIME AS WELL, THERE IS OPPORTUNITY FOR QUESTIONS, AND THEN WE WILL DELIBERATE UP HERE.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
THE ITEM BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, PLH 1963 AND PLT 1955 EBOOKS AT MCQUEEN.
THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A REZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL AG, ONE TO PLANNED AREA DEVELOPMENT PAD FOR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL, AS WELL AS A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR SITE LAYOUT AND BUILDING ARCHITECTURE, AS WELL AS A PRELIMINARY PLAT, WHICH ESTABLISHES LOT LINES, EASEMENTS AND TRACKS.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF MCQUEEN AND THE SAN TAN TO, UH, TO THE APPROXIMATE 12.8 ACRE SITE, UH, IS ABUTTED BY THREE STORY.
MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENTS TO THE EAST, TO THE SOUTH TWO STORY PATIO HOMES, UH, TO THE WEST.
WEST OF MCQUEEN IS A VACANT LAND.
CURRENTLY ZONED AGRICULTURAL TO THE NORTH.
WE HAVE THE SAND CAN TWO OH TWO WITH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, JUST NORTH OF THAT PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
BEFORE YOU INCLUDE 162 UNITS EQUATING TO 12.59 UNITS PER ACRE.
THE DEVELOPMENT IS A MIX OF ONE AND TWO STORY ATTACHED AND DETACHED UNITS, UH, IN THE EXHIBIT IN FRONT OF YOU, THE YELLOW AND THE RED UNITS ARE ALL ONE STORY.
SO A MAJORITY OF THE UNITS ARE ONE STORY.
UH, THE RE THE DEVELOPMENT IS REQUIRED TO HAVE 300 PARKING SPACES.
UH, THE DEVELOPER IS EXCEEDING THE REQUIRED AMOUNT AND PROVIDING 327 WITH A MIX OF COVERED PARKING SPACES, UNCOVERED AND PRIVATE GARAGES.
EACH UNIT WILL HAVE A PRIVATE GATED BACKYARD WITH A COVERED PATIO OF APPROXIMATELY 200, 200 SQUARE FEET.
UH, THE DEVELOPMENT OFFERS MANY AMENITIES, INCLUDING A CLUBHOUSE, A GYM, A POOL RAMADA, BARBECUE, UH, A DOG PARK, AS WELL AS A PEOPLE BALL COURT.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS ACCESSED, UH, HAS TWO ACCESS POINTS, THE MAIN ONE FROM MCQUEEN WITH A SECONDARY, UH, ACCESS POINT OFF OF SENNETT PLACE, THE ENTRY ALONG MCQUEEN AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THE DEVELOPER IN ORDER TO OBTAIN FULL ACCESS ALONG MCQUEEN HAS AGREED TO INSTALL A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT MCQUEEN AND ARMSTRONG WAY UNDER THE INITIAL PHASE OF CONSTRUCTION.
UH, ALTHOUGH THIS IS A MULTIFAMILY, YOU KNOW, THE PROPOSED, UH, UNITS ACT AS SINGLE FAMILY UNITS, THEY OFFER.
THESE ARE THE ONE STORY, UH, RENDERINGS AND ELEVATIONS OF THE ATTACHED AND THE DETACHED AS WELL AS THEY OFFER A TWO-STORY PRODUCT OF ATTACHED AND DETACHED.
UH, DEVELOPMENT USES A VARIETY OF MATERIALS, INCLUDING STUCCO TILE, PLATTING, UH, METAL, AND, UH, UH, CANOPIES OVER THE FRONT DOOR AND PATIO, AS WELL AS A VARIETY OF WINDOW SIZES AND SHAPES.
UH, THE ROOF LINES ARE BROKEN UP BY A MIX OF, UH, GABLE ROOFS WITH FLAT PARAPETS, AND THEY USE CONCRETE
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ROOF TILES PLANNING STAFF IS MAKING A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL AS IT'S COMPLIANCE, OR IT'S IN CONFORMANCE WITH OUR GENERAL PLAN, OUR 2016 GENERAL PLAN UNDER THIS IT'S DESIGNATED AS NEIGHBORHOODS UNDER OUR NEIGHBORHOODS CATEGORY UNDER OUR NEIGHBORHOODS CATEGORY.WE CAN CONSIDER DENSITIES UPWARD OF 12 TO 18 UNITS WHEN, UH, ADJACENT TO ARTERIAL STREETS AND FREEWAY.
YES, THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CHANDLER AIR PARK AREA PLAN.
THIS PLAN WAS APPROVED IN 1998.
UM, MORE SPECIFICALLY UNDER THIS PLAN, THE LAND DESIGNATION IS CONSIDERED HIGH DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL AND PERMITS FOR, UH, DENSITIES OF 12.1 TO 18 UNITS PER ACRE.
CURRENTLY THE REQUEST IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE LAND DESIGNATION, UH, AS RECOMMENDED IN OUR CHANDLER AIR PARK AREA PLAN, AS WELL AS THE SURROUNDING LAND USES THAT ARE CURRENTLY EXISTING, THE MULTI-FAMILY TO THE EAST, AS WELL AS THE, UH, PATIO HOMES, THE DENSER SUBDIVISION TO THE SOUTH, BECAUSE THIS FELL IN THE NINE SQUARE MILE CHANDLER AIR PARK AREA PLAN.
IT DID HAVE TO ATTEND AIRPORT COMMISSION FOR AN AIRPORT, AIRPORT COMMISSION, CONFLICT EVALUATION.
UH, THE AIRPORT COMMISSION DID FIND A CONFLICT WITH THE FUTURE CURRENT AND FUTURE OPERATIONS OF THE AIRPORT, UH, CITING ANY RESIDENTIAL WITHIN THE AIRPORT, UH, CAUSES A CONFLICT WITH, UH, CURRENT AND FUTURE OPERATIONS OF OUR AIRPORT.
UH, THE DEVELOPER IS PROVIDING, UH, SIGNAGE THROUGHOUT THE, UH, SITE, UH, FOR TOOL, UH, TO FURTHER LET RESIDENTS KNOW THAT THEY DO LIVE CLOSE TO AN AIRPORT, AS WELL AS A MITIGATION METHODS BY, UH, PUTTING MAPS WITHIN THE LEASING OFFICE WITH, UH, AERIALS FOR THE MAP AIR HILLS FOR THE MAP, UH, AS WELL AS FLIGHT PATHS SHOWING HOW CLOSE THEY ARE TO THE AIRPORT.
THE MEETING WAS HELD FOR THE, UH, FOR THE CASE.
UH, IT WAS HELD VIRTUALLY FIVE HOUSEHOLDS ATTENDED.
UH, THEY WERE FROM THE SUBDIVISION TO THE SOUTH HORIZON.
UM, A MAJORITY OF THEM JUST HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WAS BEING DEVELOPED AND WHAT THAT BUFFER ALONG THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE WOULD LOOK LIKE A ROW OF TREES, UH, STREET, AND THEN THE ACTUAL UNITS.
UH, I HAVE RECEIVED ONE PHONE CALL FROM A HORIZON RESIDENT WITH CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC, UM, ON THE SCREEN, THERE'S AN ARROW POINTING.
THE RESIDENT LIVED FIVE HOUSES IN FROM THE INTERSECTION OF GERMANE AND SENATE PLACE.
UM, THOSE HOMES THAT ARE BUILT, THEY, THE FRONT DOORS FACE SENATE PLACE, UH, WITH THEIR DRIVEWAYS IN THE BACK THAT THEY HAVE GUESTS THAT COULD PARK ON SENATE PLACE.
UH, THE RESIDENT WAS CONCERNED WITH THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT THIS COULD GENERATE.
UH, THIS WAS PRIOR TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
UM, THEY LET ME KNOW THAT THEY WERE A TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND REQUESTED A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO OUR CITY ENGINEER.
UM, AND AFTER REVIEWING THAT THEY, UH, NO LONGER HAD CONCERNS AS OF TODAY, PLANNING STAFF IS AWARE OF NO OPPOSITION OR CONCERNS.
THIS ATTENDED THE JANUARY 6TH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HEARING.
UH, IT, IT REMAINED ON THE CONSENT ITEM AND IT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL SIX TO ZERO WITH ONE ABSENT COMMISSIONER.
AND WITH THAT STAFF IS MAKING A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL, CITING ITS INCOME CONFORMANCE WITH OUR GENERAL PLAN, OUR CHANDLER AIR PARK AREA PLAN.
IT'S A COMPATIBLE LAND USE WITH THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL USES.
AND WITH THAT, UH, I CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION AND OPEN THE FLOOR UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, A LITTLE BIT LATER, I DO WANT TO ASK MIKE AND MIRANDA TO COME UP AND JUST TALK ABOUT THIS AS OTHER POSSIBLE USES.
SO HE'LL BE COMING, BUT, UH, COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA CONCENT MEMORIAL LANDO.
SO CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT RENDITION WHERE YOU SHOW THAT THE HOUSES AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST OR SECOND ONE OR THE TWO STORY? UH, I WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE TWO STORIES ARE, NO, GO BACK TO THE ACTUAL MASS DEBT.
SO THE TWO STORIES I CAN'T HELP YOU WITH CHARTER CHARTERS, THINGS SMALL.
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SO IS A D ADC DEAL SINGLE-STORY, UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO.UM, IT WOULD BE BEST INSTEAD OF TRYING TO READ THE, THE, THE LETTERS IT'S COLOR CODED.
SO THE UNITS THAT ARE, UH, RED AND YELLOW, UH, THOSE WILL BE THE SINGLE STORIES AND THEN THE BLUE, AND THEN THE WHITE SLASH PURPLE, UH, UNITS, THOSE ONES.
SO THEY ACTUALLY HAD THE TWO STORIES FACING THE HOUSES, CORRECT.
I'M GETTING, UH, NOT BEHIND YOU, BUT, UM, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE TO USE, WHAT'S THE SETBACK AND FOR BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND THEN THE WALL FOR THE NEIGHBORS.
UH, SO FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, IT'S NOT MEASURED FROM THE BACK OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
SO THERE'S 10 FEET OF LANDSCAPING WITH A ROW OF TREES, 20 FOOT ON CENTER, UH, AS WELL AS A 24 FOOT DRIVE AISLE.
AND THEN WITH THOSE UNITS THAT FACE TO THE SOUTH, UM, THEY'RE ACTUALLY THE CARRIAGE UNITS.
UH, SO THERE'S GARAGES ALL ON THE FIRST LEVEL AND EACH OF THOSE WOULD ONLY HAVE TWO UNITS UP TOP.
UH, WE TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION THE AMOUNT OF WINDOWS THAT WOULD FACE TO THE SOUTH.
AND THEN WHAT ARE THE, X'S THERE, UH, UH, CROSS STREETS TO THE XS? WHAT IS, IS THAT JUST A COVERED PARKING OR THAT PART? CORRECT? THAT WOULD BE COVERED PARKING.
OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UM, SO IT WAS, CAN YOU LEAVE THE, UH, THE, UH, PLAN UP REAL QUICK FOR ME PLEASE? AND ONE OF THE, UM, THE LAYOUT, YOU KNOW, THE PREVIOUS ONE.
UM, I WAS CURIOUS, YOU MENTIONED THE STOPLIGHT, UM, W W W WILL IT BE A RIGHT ONLY AREA SO PEOPLE CAN TURN LEFT IN? SO ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I'VE GOT TO GET, I GUESS, IS AROUND TRAFFIC IS ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE IS LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO GET THE TOOL TOO, AND YOU, YOU GO GILBERT ROAD, IT'S PACKED RIGHT.
GOING THROUGH WALMART AND ALL THOSE AREAS YOU GET UP TOWARDS, UH, ARIZONA AVENUE.
THERE'S, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SAM'S CLUB, YOU GOT AN ISTEP STOP LIKE THERE, AND ANOTHER STOPLIGHT, ONE OF THE EASIER PASSAGE PATHWAYS TO GET THROUGH IT IS THERE, IS THERE A WAY THAT THIS COULD EMPTY OUT DOWN ON, ON A HUNDRED MAIN, SO TO KEEP THAT TRAFFIC FLOWING.
SO THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN, IF I MAY, UM, I GUESS THIS DOESN'T FULLY EXTEND OUT, UM, IN THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN, THE, ORIGINALLY THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO TAKE THEIR MAIN ENTRY, UH, OFF OF SENATE PLACE.
UH, WHEN THE SUBDIVISION TO THE SOUTH DEVELOPED, UM, SENATE PLACE WAS INSTALLED BY THE CITY TO ALLOW FOR THIS PROPERTY TO GET FULL ACCESS TO THEIR PROPERTY.
UM, HOWEVER, UH, IN ORDER FOR, UM, VIABILITY AND VISIBILITY, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPER REQUESTED TO HAVE, UH, A STOPLIGHT INSTALLED THERE, ASK FOR FULL, UM, FULL MOVEMENT.
UM, AND THE ONLY WAY THAT IT WOULD BE SAFE AS THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER SAID, UH, IF, IF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL WENT IN, UM, AS WELL AS I SHOULD HAVE HAD A BETTER EXHIBIT, IF I WAS TO ZOOM OUT, THIS WOULD HELP US OUT REGIONALLY AS WELL.
UM, ON THE WEST SIDE OF MCQUEEN ROAD, UH, WE HAVE A WHOLE, UM, UNDEVELOPED AREA OF INDUSTRIAL JUST WEST OF THE YARD, UM, THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO TIE INTO ARMSTRONG HEADING ALL THE WAY SOUTH.
UM, MAN, WE DO HAVE OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER HERE AS WELL, WHO COULD ANSWER QUESTIONS.
SO, SO AS IT STANDS OUT, IT'S A LEFT AND IT'S A, IT'S JUST ANOTHER STOPLIGHT, JUST LIKE ANYTHING WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE NEIGHBORS, LIKE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE IN THERE, BUT NOT SO GREAT FOR ANYBODY THAT LIVES SOUTH, UM, AS IT RELATES TO THE, UM, UH, AIRPORT AREA PLAN.
DO WE KNOW WHEN THAT'S GOING TO BE PRESENTED WHERE WE'RE USING A 1999, 1998, OVERLAY LOTS HAS HAPPENED IN CHANDLER, UH, SINCE 1998.
PART OF ME, UM, THE, I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THE LAST COMMENT REAL QUICK ESE YOU WERE SAYING.
UM, SO BY INSTALLING THE TRAFFIC LIGHT, UM, IT WOULD CREATE A CONFLICT, UM, VERSUS, UM, IF THEY WERE TO MAKE A TURN AT JERMAINE.
SO INSTEAD OF TURNING AT THIS PROPERTY, TURNING AT YOUR MAIN YEAH.
COMING IN FROM THE SOUTH, WHICH HAS TO BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER BECAUSE I THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST SOUTH ONLY HAS A RIPE RIGHT.
IT JUST, IT'S BETTER FOR FLOW AND THERE'S LESS STOPPAGE, BUT, UM, WE, WE CAN MOVE ON FROM THAT, AS IT RELATES TO THE, UM, THANK YOU.
UM, AS IT RELATES TO MY, MY, MY NEXT QUESTION IS, DO WE KNOW WHEN WE'RE GOING TO SEE THE NEW, UM, AIRPORT AREA PLAN? GREAT QUESTION.
UH, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT.
UM, WE WERE HOPING, YOU KNOW, UH, BY SUMMERTIME TO GET THAT BEFORE YOU, UH, WE ACTUALLY JUST MET WITH OUR CONSULTANT
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PRIOR TO THIS MEETING, AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE ALTERNATIVE LAND USE DOCUMENT PREPARED AND HOPEFULLY OUT BEFORE OUR HEARING BOARDS, YOU KNOW, WITHIN A COUPLE OF MONTHS.SO EARLIER TODAY I TALKED WITH KEVIN MAYO AND, UH, AND DEREK HORN, UH, OUR DIRECTOR AND, UH, THE STAFF IN FRONT OF THAT THAT HANDLES THESE, UH, THESE PROJECTS.
AND I ASKED HIM, WHY ARE WE, WHY ARE WE RECOMMENDING THIS PROJECT? AND YOU WENT THROUGH A LIST OF THINGS AS IT RELATES TO THE GENERAL PLAN, LAND USE SCENARIO PLAN, WHICH I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE, UH, THE LAND USE AFTER DOING SOME MORE RESEARCH.
UM, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BASIC GUIDELINES AND CURRENT PROCEDURE OR CURRENT PRECEDENT, WHICH IS AROUND THAT AREA.
CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT BASIC GUIDELINES AND, AND BASICALLY WHERE YOU THINK, AND THEN I'LL ASK THE, THE, UH, THE APPLICANT A BIT LATER ABOUT RENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BASIC GUIDELINES? WHAT, WHAT YOUR BENCHMARKS WERE FOR THIS PROJECT, AS IT RELATES TO AESTHETICS ENTRY WAYS, THE TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, UH, FACADES, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE, THAT WE DO.
GREAT QUESTION THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART, UH, WITH REGARDS TO DESIGN, UH, WE DO HAVE, UM, A SET OF STANDARDS THAT WE REVIEW IT WITH.
YOU KNOW, WE WANT VARYING PLANES, WE WANT A VARIETY OF MATERIALS.
UH, WE DON'T WANT SQUARE, JUST SQUARE UNITS DROPPED ON THERE.
SO THE MATERIALS THAT THEY USE, THEY WERE ABLE TO PUSH AND PULL.
UH, AND SO YOU GET BACK UP TO THAT ONE IMAGE.
UH, IF YOU WERE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PUSH AND PULL OF THE BUILDING, UH, VARYING HEIGHTS OF VARIETY OF MATERIAL.
UM, THIS WAS NOT THEIR FIRST SUBMITTAL.
UM, I BELIEVE THIS WAS ACTUALLY LIKE THEIR THIRD TIME AROUND.
SO, UH, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM WITH REGARDS TO ARCHITECTURE AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S A NEW TYPE OF A NEWER TYPE OF, UM, DEVELOPER, UM, THE CONCEPT OF PROVIDING, UH, LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY TYPE HOME, BUT YET STILL AS A RENTAL PROPERTY, THE APPLICANT MAY BE ABLE TO ADD MORE TO THAT AS WELL.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE, UM, THE LAYOUT? ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED EARLIER EARLIER TODAY WAS 30 CHILDREN IN THIS.
WHAT ARE THE, WHAT ARE THEY, WHAT ARE YOU PLAY? UM, AND I'M GETTING A LITTLE PICKY HERE, BUT I'M NOT SEEING LIKE PLACES FOR KIDS TO PLAY OR, I MEAN, IT'S, UH, IT'S REALLY PACKED.
UM, IT SEEMS LIKE, AND I GET, WE'RE TRYING TO STAY WITHIN A CERTAIN DENSITY AND HEIGHT AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE NEIGHBORS DOWN SOUTH, WHICH I APPRECIATE FROM THE, FROM THE APPLICANT.
BUT, UM, MAYBE YOU CAN POINT THAT OUT FOR ME.
UM, I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER THAT TO THE APPLICANT AS TO WHY THEIR AMENITIES DID NOT INCLUDE A PLAYGROUND.
UM, BUT THE SITE PLAN BEFORE YOUR RIGHT HERE SHOWS THEIR CIRCULATION PLAN.
UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE EACH UNIT DOES HAVE A PRIVATE, UH, GATED BACKYARD, WE TOOK INTO SPECIAL, UH, ATTENTION OF WHAT THOSE SIDEWALKS SIDEWALKS LOOK LIKE.
AND THEN THE, UH, LANDSCAPED AREAS, PROVIDING AREAS WHERE PEOPLE COULD GATHER AS WELL.
UH, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER THAT ONE TO THE APPLICANT AS TO, UM, WHY THERE ARE AMENITIES.
AND THEN I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION.
ARE THERE ANY EVIE OUTLETS FOR THIS PROPERTY FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES? I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER THAT ONE TO, YEAH.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR SCOTT COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS? UM, THE BACKYARD, THE GATED BACKYARD.
UM, CAN, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THIS LINE AGAIN? I WANTED TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHERE WE'RE, HOW, HOW BIG IS THIS GATED BACKYARD? IF THERE WAS MULTI-FAMILY YOU KIND OF HAD TWO, THREE KIDS, HOW BIG IS THIS BACKYARD? AND, AND MAYBE, MAYBE JUST THINKING THAT MAYBE THE BUILDER WAS THINKING, I, THAT IS THE YARD TO PLAY IN PER SE VERSUS HAVING A BIG PLAYGROUND.
UM, SO INSTEAD, WOULD THAT BE, AGAIN, A BETTER QUESTION FOR, UH, THE, TO GIVE YOU MORE EXECUTIVES? I'LL DEFER MY QUESTION TO THE, UH, TO BRENDA SHE SHAKEN.
HE CAN WRITE THAT DOWN AND GET BACK WITH ME ON THAT.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE AT THIS TIME HERE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
I WOULD LIKE TO BEFORE INVITE BRIAN ENOUGH, UH, JUST, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE MIKE AND MIRANDA TO GIVE US A BRIEF CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS PROPERTY.
AND, AND BEFORE US, WE HAVE A USE TALK TO US ABOUT IT.
SO GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING THIS PROJECT OR PROPOSED PROJECT AS IT RELATES TO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES.
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WHAT'S THE, MY QUESTION IS WHAT WE ALWAYS LOOK AS, WHAT IS THE BEST USE FOR THIS? I REALIZE BEST IS A VERY ARBITRARY STATEMENT AND WE'D LOOKED AT, UM, UM, JOB POSSIBILITIES ARE, OR OTHER THINGS.SO AGAIN, IN THE, IN THE SITE WHERE IT IS SURROUNDED WITH THE NEIGHBORS THAT IT HAS, WHAT ARE SOME OTHER OPTIONS THAT COULD BE ON THIS PROPERTY MAYOR? THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION IS IN TODAY'S MARKET.
UM, WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF ACTIVITY ECONOMY IS ACTUALLY DOING REALLY WELL.
WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF INTEREST FROM MANUFACTURERS.
SO AT THIS SITE, I WOULD SEE, UH, AN ORANGE VISION, A LOW DENSITY, UM, OFFICE PRODUCT, OR FLEX INDUSTRIAL PRODUCT, UM, REALLY IN A, UM, IN A MORE COMPACT SETTING.
SO, UM, WITHIN THE AIR PARK AREA, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF SUCCESS FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF LOCATES, ESPECIALLY ON THE FREEWAY CORRIDORS FREEWAY CORRIDORS CONTINUED TO BE VERY, UM, CRITICAL, UH, ANY, ANY SORT OF TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, WHETHER IT'S RAIN, RAIL, ROADS, FREEWAYS, WATERWAYS, IN THIS CASE FREEWAY, UM, HAVING ACCESS TO THAT TO EMPLOYERS IS VERY DESIRABLE.
AND OF COURSE IT'S VISIBILITY TO THE FREEWAY.
SO I CAN ENVISION A, UM, FLEX INDUSTRIAL USER WANTING THAT FREEWAY EXPOSURE UP ALONG THE FREEWAY.
AND WHAT WOULD TRAFFIC LOOK LIKE AS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EITHER, UM, SMALL OFFICE FLEX INDUSTRIAL, AS OPPOSED TO THE PROPOSED THAT'S HERE? YEAH.
SO DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF USE, OBVIOUSLY THAT THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS HAVE THEIR DIFFERENT MODELS THAT THEY LOOK AT.
SO, UH, OFFICE USERS, UH, IN INDUSTRIAL USERS ARE, ARE GENERALLY, UH, ON THE, ON THE LIGHTER SIDE, UH, WITHOUT HAVING THE EXACT SQUARE FOOTAGE OF WHAT SOMEBODY WOULD PROPOSE FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE USES.
I COULDN'T GIVE YOU A TRAFFIC COUNT PER DAY, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD COME AND GIVE YOU SOME FEEDBACK AROUND.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MICAH? ALL RIGHT.
SO, UM, WE'LL START CUSTOM ORLANDO THEN COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON VICE ME.
SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT FLEX OFFICE, BUT HAVE WE SEEN ANY PEOPLE KNOCKING ON THE DOOR ASKING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, PUT SOMETHING THERE? THAT'S, NON-RESIDENTIAL THE MAYOR, COUNCILMAN ORLANDO.
WE HAVE RECEIVED INTEREST IN THAT ARMSTRONG ALIGNMENT, UH, REALLY FROM HAMILTON ALL THE WAY OVER BECAUSE OF ITS VACANCY AND FREEWAY EXPOSURE.
WE'VE, WE'VE RECEIVED REQUESTS.
WE OBVIOUSLY, UM, DEFER IT TO THE PROPERTY REPRESENTATIVE TO, UM, ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS ON WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO WITH THE DISPOSITION OF THE PROPERTY THAT WORKED WITH THEM.
THERE IS THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY CONDUCIVE TO BUILDING THAT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THE ECONOMICS OF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING HERE.
UH, BUT GIVEN THE STRONG INTEREST WE'VE SEEN IN THE MARKETPLACE, UH, FOR OTHER TYPES OF PROJECTS.
I WOULD SAY THERE'D BE, UH, INTEREST IN DOING SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, EITHER FLEX INDUSTRIAL OR OFFICE REALLY ON THE FLEX INDUSTRIAL SIDE RIGHT NOW.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS HARRIS.
UM, SO MICHAEL, YOU TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USE, UM, OUR GENERAL PLANS.
WHAT DOES OUR GENERAL PLAN CAUSE FOR ME, WHAT WAS IT, WHAT WAS IT ALREADY DESIGNATED FOR? UM, FOR, UM, WHAT DID WE DESIGNATE IT FOR? IT WAS WHAT WAS ALREADY DESIGNATED FOR THROWING THE MAYOR, COUNCILLOR HARRIS.
I'M GOING TO INVITE LOWER BACK UP.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT THE GENERAL PLAN CALLS FOR A MISTAKE? OKAY.
THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, UH, OUR GENERAL PLAN ON THE MAP ABOVE OR BELOW BEFORE YOU, UH, YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THE GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION.
UH, IF IT'S CALLED OUT AS, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, NEIGHBORHOODS IS A VERY BROAD CAP, UH, CATEGORY.
IT ALLOWS FOR A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT DENSITIES WITHIN OUR GENERAL PLAN THERE'S LANGUAGE THAT STATES WHAT, UH, HOW MUCH DENSITY IS PERMITTED WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, IT COULD ALSO CONSIDER, UM, A VARIETY OF NON-RESIDENTIAL USES SUCH AS COMMERCIAL INSTITUTIONAL PUBLIC FACILITIES AND COMMERCIAL OFFICES, UM, PER THE LANGUAGE OF OUR GENERAL PLAN.
SO NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORHOODS PER THE GENERAL PLAN IS A VERY BROAD DESCRIPTION IN AND AROUND THE PLAN CURRENTLY, RIGHT NOW THERE'S THERE'S COMMUNITIES, THERE'S BUILDINGS OF RESIDENTS AROUND THIS PARTICULAR AREA AS WELL.
SO WE HAVE OUR GENERAL PLAN, BUT, UH, THIS PROPERTY ALSO FALLS WITHIN OUR CHANDLER AIR PARK AREA PLAN, WHICH IS AN EVEN MORE SPECIFIC PLAN, WHICH, YOU KNOW, TIGHTENS UP THAT THE TYPES OF USES THAT COULD BE, UM,
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PROPOSED AT THIS LOCATION WITHOUT AMENDING THIS PLAN.AND IF YOU LOOK, UM, ALL OF THE SURROUNDING LAND USES ARE, UH, RESIDENTIAL AND, UH, HIGHER DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL.
UM, CAN YOU GIVE ME KIND OF A BEST PRACTICE FOR OTHER CITIES IN ARIZONA OR AT LEAST IN THE PHOENIX METRO AREA FOR HIGHWAY CORRIDORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? WHEN I LOOK AT JUST WHERE I KNOW, CAUSE I DON'T LEAVE CHANDLER FOR ANY REASON.
UM, I LOOK AT THE HOSPITAL THAT WE HAVE AN ALMOST SCHOOL.
I LOOK AT THE GREAT DEVELOPMENTS THAT DORITO PARTNERS HAVE PUT, UM, ON GILBERT ROAD AND SOME OTHER AREAS BY THE MALL, AS YOU HEAD UP THE ONE-ON-ONE THROUGH TEMPE, I SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE DEVELOPMENT.
WHAT IS, IS THERE A STANDARD OR IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL TALK ABOUT AS IT RELATES TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR HIGHWAY THROUGH THE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR? YES.
AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPER, WHAT THEY WOULD WANT, THEY WOULD SAY PUT EMPLOYMENT EVERYWHERE.
UM, SO THAT THAT'S KIND OF OUR DEFAULT ANSWER, BUT, UH, THE GENERAL PREFERENCE IS, IS TO PUT EMPLOYMENT UP AGAINST FREEWAY CORRIDORS, BUT THEN THE DEVELOPMENT WORLD.
AND THEN, UH, I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT OTHER CITIES DO OR WHAT THEY LIKE TO DO, BUT, UM, IT'S USUALLY ON A, ON A ONE-OFF CASES JUST LIKE THIS.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR MICAH? I JUST WANTED TO MAKE COMMENT THAT, UM, PERHAPS THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE GREATER INVOLVEMENT AROUND THE COMMUNITY AS IT PERTAINS TO THIS, UH, TO THIS PARTICULAR AREA AND, AND, AND PROPERTY ON CONCERNED THAT WE ONLY HAD FIVE, UH, INDIVIDUALS TO REACH OUT OR TO SHARE OR TO SPEAK, UM, ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
I'M SURE IF IT WAS A DIFFERENT, IF IT WAS BEING ZONED FOR INDUSTRIAL SHARE, WE'LL HAVE 50 PEOPLE OR A HUNDRED PEOPLE, UM, TALKING ABOUT IT.
SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS FELT COMFORTABLE WITH A RESIDENTIAL, WOULD THEY BE IN RESIDENTIAL OVER COMMERCIAL? THANK YOU.
AND MAYBE, UH, MAYBE, UH, UH, ZONING ATTORNEY BRENNAN CAN TALK ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF OUTREACH AS WELL.
UH, THANK YOU MARIN, WHILE WE STILL GOT YOU THERE.
MIKE, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, I THINK AN EXAMPLE FOR ME, UH, IS, UM, RIGHT NOW AS A, AS A BUSINESS THAT IS LOCATED ON THE, OR SIDE OF THE TWO OH TWO, IT WAS PREVIOUSLY LOCATED IN CHANDLER IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION.
UH, IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE THEIR BUSINESSES ALMOST A LITTLE ODD TO GET INTO, UH, AND THEY HAD A VERY GOOD LOCATION, UH, IN, IN, UH, ON NORTH ARIZONA AVENUE.
SO, SO YOU THINK THAT DESPITE THE DIFFICULTY OF GETTING IN AND OUT OF THEIR BUSINESS, THAT THAT'S STILL AND MADE SENSE FOR THEM TO DO THAT THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MOREAU, UM, IN THE INSTANCE OF RIDE NOW I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE, THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, IF YOU WILL, WITH THE OTHER AUTO USERS CREATING CREATES A CLUSTER IN EFFECT, WHICH MADE THAT SITE ATTRACTIVE TO THEM IN THEIR INDIVIDUAL INSTANCE.
SO, SO THE FREEWAY WAS JUST PART OF THAT.
THE TWO OH TWO WAS JUST PART OF THAT, THE VISIBILITY.
UM, SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
I'D LIKE TO CALL UP BRIAN AND RAY REPRESENTING THE CLIENT NAME, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
PLEASE BEAR WITH ME ONE MINUTE.
BUT WITH MY PRESENTATION, IT WAS SO BIG THAT I COULDN'T DO IT BEFORE.
THIS IS PART OF YOUR THREE MINUTES.
I'M GLAD WE ALL HAVE THE SENSE OF HUMOR.
I, I GIVE YOU CREDIT FOR THAT ONE.
MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL BRENNAN
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RAY, 1850 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE, UH, HERE ON BEHALF OF SNOWDEN MCQUEEN, LLC.UM, WE'RE CERTAINLY VERY EXCITED TO TALK TO YOU TONIGHT ABOUT WHAT WE CONSIDER A HIGH QUALITY, UM, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I HAVE WITH ME A NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND SOME OF THEM HAVE TURNED IN SPEAKER CARDS, BUT BY WAY OF INTRODUCTION, UM, SCOTT CURTIS, UH, IS WITH US TONIGHT.
HE IS, UH, THE CLIENT, UH, AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPER, UM, SCOTT AND HIS TEAM, THE STONE AND TEAM HAVE OVER 30 YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT EXPERIENCE, UH, DOING A NUMBER OF, OF, UH, DEVELOPMENTS THROUGHOUT THE VALLEY, 40, UH, OR MORE, UM, AND THEY HAVE CONSIDERABLE EXPERIENCE DEVELOPING LAND HERE IN CHANDLER AND EXCITED TO BE BACK TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS.
ALSO HAVE WITH ME, UH, MEMBERS OF THE, THE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP GROUP, UM, INCLUDING MISS, UH, MS. NANCY BERGE, UH, AND HER DAUGHTER, BARBARA.
AND THEN SOME OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH ANDY BARRON, UH, FORMER PLANNING COMMISSIONER HERE.
UH, ANDY IS THE DESIGNER OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, UH, AND HAS WORKED HAND IN GLOVE WITH ME AS WE'VE WORKED HAND IN GLOVE WITH PLANNING STAFF TO ENSURE THAT THIS MEETS THE HIGH QUALITY STANDARDS THAT, UH, IS EXPECTED FOR DEVELOPMENTS AND CERTAINLY DEVELOPING AT THIS LOCATION, UH, IN THIS COMMUNITY.
UM, SO WHY IS THIS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THIS SITE? AND I'M GOING TO TOUCH ON AND EMPHASIZE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT, THAT, UH, PLANNING STAFF, UM, PRESENTED TO YOU.
UM, BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT CONSISTENT WITH EVERY PLAN THAT'S OUT THERE.
WE ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
WE ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT CONSISTENT WITH GOOD PLANNING PRINCIPLES, UH, WHICH SOMETIMES PLANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PATHS.
UH, AND SO I'M GOING TO TALK AND FOCUS ON THE PLANNING SIDE OF THINGS AS, AS STAFF INDICATED AND AS COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS NOTED, UM, WE HAVE NO NEIGHBORHOOD OPPOSITION AND IT IS BY VIRTUE OF THE FACT THAT I BELIEVE HAVING DONE A NUMBER OF DEVELOPMENTS IN, IN THE CITY OVER MY SHORT CAREER, UM, THAT IF THERE WAS PROBLEMS, UH, YOU, UH, EMAIL BOXES WOULD BE FULL AND THIS ROOM MIGHT BE, UM, OBVIOUSLY UNDER COVID, UH, PROTOCOL AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
UM, STAFF, AS I MENTIONED, WE WORK HAND IN CLUB GLOVE WITH THEM.
AND I THINK IMPORTANTLY, UM, ONE OF THE BODIES THAT YOU GUYS RELY ON IN TERMS OF DESIGN IN TERMS OF QUALITY, AND I'LL TELL YOU THEY'RE A TOUGH BUNCH.
AND IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THOSE GUYS, I'D, I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THAT SOMETIME BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT COUNCIL'S EXPECTATIONS ARE IN TERMS OF DESIGN AND QUALITY.
AND WE WENT THROUGH UNANIMOUSLY.
UH, IN FACT, WE WERE ON CONSENT, UH, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY AND THERE WAS COMPLIMENTS IN TERMS OF THE DESIGN AND THE ARCHITECTURE THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THAT GROUP.
AND SO I THINK IMPORTANTLY AS WE TALK ABOUT KIND OF ECONOMIC PRIORITIES AS WELL, UM, AND WE LOOK AT THIS SITE, THIS DOES NOT IMPACT THE CITY STATE OF GOAL OF PROVIDING EMPLOYMENT, USES UNEMPLOYMENT DESIGNATED LAND.
AND I'VE HEARD THAT, UH, FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, UH, WORKING IN CHANDLER.
AND I KNOW THAT THAT, UH, PARTICULAR, UM, DESIRE OF THE COUNCIL WAS EMPHASIZED AT THE, UM, JOINT RETREAT OR THE JOINT SESSION BETWEEN THE COUNCIL AND COMMISSION.
UH, I BELIEVE ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
I THINK IT WAS FALL OF 2019 IS WHEN, UM, THAT JOINT SESSION TOOK PLACE.
AND SO THIS ALLOWS US TO ACCOMPLISH IT, CERTAINLY FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE.
I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR THAT THE SITE AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.
OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
UM, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, UM, SOME OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS ON THERE, OUR OFFICE HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON INCLUDING THE SAND VALENCIA DEVELOPMENT THAT MARK TAYLOR, UM, UH, APARTMENT COMPLEX.
AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE POSSIBLY COUNCILMAN ORLANDO WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE, UH, SEATED AT THE TIME WHEN WE TOOK THAT CASE THROUGH AND MAYBE EVEN COUNCIL MEMBER OR MAYOR HARKEY WAS AT THE TIME.
UM, BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF, A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE WITH THE LA PALOMA NEIGHBORS, UH, AND THAT'S THAT SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S BEEN THERE A WHILE ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY WITH ANDY BARON TO WORK ON THE HORIZON DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE ARE CERTAINLY VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA, VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AS WE LOOK AT IT, IT'S CERTAINLY ONE THING TO SEE THINGS IN PLAN VIEW.
AND I KNOW WHEN WE TALK AND PRESENT THINGS, A LOT OF IT'S IN PLAN VIEW, I WANTED TO GIVE US KIND OF A BOOTS ON THE GROUND EFFECT.
AND SO THIS IS KIND OF A, IF IT PLAYS AND IT MIGHT NOT PROBABLY NOT GOING TO PLAY, AND I'VE PROBABLY CRASHED THE SYSTEM.
I HAD LIKE A FIVE SECOND VIDEO.
IT'S A WONDERFUL, IT'S WONDERFUL, LOTS OF, LOTS OF BLUE, LOTS OF CLOUDS.
UM, I KNOW I'VE BEEN ON THE SITE WITH A NUMBER OF YOU, UH, AND YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THE RESIDENTIAL
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NATURE AND FEEL OF IT, UH, WITH THE MARK TAYLOR APARTMENTS AND WITH THE MINNAAR HORIZON COMMUNITY SOUTH GENERAL PLAN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AIR PARK AREA PLAN.WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ONE OF THE PLANS THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT.
IT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL FOLLOWED THE APPROVAL OF THE AIR PARK AREA PLAN.
AND THAT'S, WHAT'S KNOWN AS THE SAN TAN FREEWAY CORRIDOR AREA PLAN.
AND YOU CAN SEE ON THAT, I'VE JUST TOOK A SNIPPET FROM THE FRONT PAGE OF THAT.
AND I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE DONE AN, UH, MR. BULL AND BRING A HARD COPY AND WAVED IT IN FRONT OF YOU FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW MR. BULL.
UM, BUT NEVERTHELESS, THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED AND STUDIED, UH, THE, UH, WHAT SHOULD BE APPROPRIATELY LOCATED ALONG FREEWAY CORRIDORS.
AND I CAN APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE, UM, UH, MIKE HAS DISCUSSION ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WANTING, UM, A LOT OF BUSINESS ADJACENT TO FREEWAYS.
I THINK AS ALL OF US HAVE TRAVELED THROUGHOUT THIS VALLEY, WHETHER IT'S ON THE TWO OH TWO, THE 10, THE ONE OH ONE WE SEE IN A LOT OF INSTANCES, THERE'S A VARIETY OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT BACK UP TO IT FROM BUSINESS AND EMPLOYMENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT TO RESIDENTIAL.
BUT INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, ON THIS SAN TAN FREEWAY CORRIDOR AREA PLAN, WHICH HAS LAR, WHICH THE AREA HAS LARGELY DEVELOPED CONSISTENT WITH THE AIR PARK AREA PLAN.
AND THIS ONE, THIS SIDE IS DESIGNATED HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
SO NOT ONLY WAS IT STUDY AS PART OF THE BROADER AIR PARK AREA, IT WAS ALSO STUDIED IN CONNECTION WITH THE TWO OH TWO CORRIDOR.
AND THAT IS WHAT IT WAS DESIGNATED AS.
SO AGAIN, THE PROPOSAL, UM, I CAN GO INTO IT AS MUCH DETAIL, UM, AND I'LL CIRCLE BACK PROBABLY AT THE END ON SOME OF THE DESIGN QUESTIONS THAT I THINK THAT I RECEIVED, UM, IF THAT'S OKAY.
UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, AGAIN, I'LL EMPHASIZE IS THAT THIS IS A GATED, UH, GATED DEVELOPMENT WITH ONE AND TWO STORY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UH, THAT HAPPENED TO BE FOR RENT.
IT LIVES LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITY.
UM, YEAH, IT HAS THE BENEFITS OF RENTAL DEVELOPMENT, UM, UH, THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, AGAIN, WE HAD FIVE, WHICH I THINK SPEAKS TO IT, NOT BEING CONTROVERSIAL FROM THE NEIGHBORS STANDPOINT.
AND WE'RE CERTAINLY APPRECIATIVE, UH, THAT WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING WITH THIS GATED DEVELOPMENT AFFORDED THEM A SENSE OF PRIVACY AND A SENSE OF SECURITY, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE RESIDENTS ON THE NORTH SIDE, AS WE BACK UP TO IT AND COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO THROUGH THE MAYOR, I'LL ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT YOU HAD, NONE OF THE HO THERE'S ONE HOME THAT TRULY FACES, UH, THAT SOUTH.
AND THAT'S, ADY, ADY, IT'S OVER ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, ALL OF THE OTHER ONES, UH, SIDE UP TO IT.
UH, AND SO IT'S NOT AS IF WE'VE GOT A LOT OF, UM, EYES BECAUSE AS, AS WE PLANNED IT OUT, THERE WERE CERTAINLY SENSITIVITY TO WHAT OCCURRED ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND THE RESIDENTS AND THOSE BACKYARDS AND STUFF.
SO PURPOSEFULLY, WE DESIGNED IT TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT ON, ON THOSE NEIGHBORS.
AND THEY WERE APPRECIATIVE AS WE TALKED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING TO THEM, THAT QUESTION OF PRIVACY SPECIFICALLY CAME UP IN SEPARATION AND WERE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT TO THEIR SATISFACTION.
AGAIN, I CAN GO INTO AS MUCH DETAIL ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UM, WE WORK LONG AND HARD WITH STAFF ON THE QUALITY.
UM, PART OF, UH, WE STARTED THIS CASE.
I STARTED WORKING ON THIS CASE IN AUGUST OF 2019.
UH, THERE WAS A STRETCH THERE WHERE WE, UH, NEEDED TO WORK REALLY CLOSELY WITH STAFF ON MAKING SURE THAT IT WAS LIVABLE, UM, AND THAT THE ARCHITECTURE MEANT THERE.
AND A LOT OF THE DELAY IN NORMALLY CASES DON'T TAKE THAT LONG, BUT THE DELAY WAS DUE TO ENSURING THAT THE ARCHITECTURAL QUALITY WAS THERE AND WE BELIEVE THAT IT IS SO, UM, I WANT TO FOCUS REALLY ON KIND OF EMPLOYMENT CHALLENGES, UM, BECAUSE AS, AS I WAS AT THE LAST HEARING, AND AS I'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS, I UNDERSTAND THAT QUESTION HAS COME OUT.
AND SO THERE'S FIVE THINGS THAT I WANT TO FOCUS ON IS WE REALLY LOOK AT IT REALLY FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, UM, THAT WE START TO LOOK AT IT THAT CREATES A NUMBER OF CHALLENGES.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A NUMBER OF SITE CONSTRAINTS, UM, AND I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THOSE AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THOSE, BUT THE SITE IS SUNKEN AND DEPRESSED.
THERE IS MINIMAL EXPOSURE, NOT THE GREATEST, UH, ALONG, UH, MCQUEEN ROAD IN THE TWO OH TWO.
AND I'VE KIND OF IDENTIFIED WHERE THOSE KIND OF KEY, UH, OPPORTUNITIES FOR VISIBILITY ARE EVEN GOING A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.
AGAIN, WE CAN SEE IT IN PLAN VIEW.
IT'S ANOTHER THING TO SEE IT AS YOU'RE IN HAVING BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
THIS IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF MCQUEEN KIND OF LOOKING SOUTHEAST, UH, AS WE HEAD EAST AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT IMMEDIATELY CATCHES YOUR EYE.
OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE THOSE HUGE POWER POLES THAT OUT IN FRONT, THOSE POWER POLES WILL NOT BE UNDERGROUND ANYTIME SOON.
UH, AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE THERE IN PERPETUITY, IN ANY DEVELOPER, INCLUDING OURS HAS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK AROUND IT.
THE OTHER THING IS I MENTIONED, AND THIS IS LOOKING AT THE OPPOSITE SIDE.
AS YOU LOOK BACK TO THE NORTHWEST IS VERY SUNKEN IN DEPRESSED IN THAT CORNER.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT GOING ON AS YOU TRAVEL THE TWO OH TWO COMING, UH, OVER ARIZONA AVENUE OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS, GETTING UNDER MCQUEEN, AND THEN CLIMBING BACK UP TO GET OVER THE CONSOLIDATED CANAL AS WE KIND OF RUN ALONG
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THERE.THIS IS THAT LOOKING WEST TOWARD MCQUEEN ROAD.
AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S JUST A NARROW WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY AS MCQUEEN ROAD ELEVATES, UH, AS IT APPROACHES THE TWO OH TWO, THIS IS LOOKING NORTHEAST.
AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE AND HAVE EXPERIENCED WHERE THERE'S A LIMITATION ON VISIBILITY.
AND AGAIN, IT'S MY VIDEO WORKS, WHICH IT DOESN'T.
UM, I WOULD BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU JUST EXACTLY, UH, HOW WE DID IT.
I DID THAT WITH MY GOPRO A COUPLE OF TIMES, MAKING SURE I, YOU KNOW, GOT IT, BUT, BUT I THINK WE'VE ALL TRAVELED THAT ROAD ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE LIMITATIONS AS YOU TRAVEL, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S EASY FOR US TO TALK ABOUT IT AND WE LOOK AT IT AND WE DRIVE AND I LOOK AT IT, THEY CAN, OKAY.
IT'S ANOTHER THING WHEN THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND POPULATION JUST DRIVES BY MOST OF THEM PRESUMABLY ARE GOING 65.
UM, AND THE WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY, UH, FOR VISIBILITY IS PRETTY MINIMAL ON THAT.
THE OTHER THING, AND, AND COUNCILMAN STEWART BROUGHT THIS UP TRAFFIC, AND WE ARE, UM, VERY AWARE OF THE ONGOING DISCUSSIONS FOR THAT FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN TAKING PLACE IN MCQUEEN ROAD AND IN MCQUEEN ROAD CORRIDOR.
UM, AND CERTAINLY ABOUT TRAFFIC AS WE LOOK AT IT.
UM, WE KNOW THAT THOSE DISCUSSIONS AREN'T CHANGING SOON, UH, ESPECIALLY AS, AS THE CITY AND, UH, LAND OWNERS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SOUTH, UH, LOOK TO DEVELOPMENT WITH IT.
EMPLOYMENT USES AGAIN AS ENVISIONED BY THE VARIOUS PLANS.
SO WE TALKED TO OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND HE SAID, HEY, HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT AN OFFICE DEVELOPMENT, THE IMPACT ON THAT WOULD BE.
I HEARD THEM TALK ABOUT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, AND I SUPPOSE WE COULD GET THE CITY'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER UP HERE, BUT I WOULD TELL YOU AND RANKING THE HIERARCHY OF USES AND OFFICE IS, IS IT MORE SIGNIFICANT GENERATOR OF TRAFFIC THAN A MULTIFAMILY BY AN INDUSTRIAL, DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT COULD BE THE SAME OR A LITTLE BIT MORE.
IT JUST KIND OF DEPENDS ON THAT TYPE OF USE, BUT WE LOOKED AT IT.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, THE NUMBERS CLEARLY SHOW THAT AN OFFICE DEVELOPMENT GENERATE TWO TIMES THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD.
SO THAT LEADS INTO OTHER THINGS.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS HOW DO YOU STACK AND CUE THAT TYPE OF TRAFFIC, UM, TO BE ABLE TO TURN INTO IT, EIGHT DOTS INTERESTED IN GETTING PEOPLE OFF THE FREEWAY, THE CITY IS AS WELL.
AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE ON THERE IS THERE'S A LOT OF CALL, A TURQUOISE BLUE LINE THAT INDICATES THE LIMIT OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT I WOULD NEED TO MAKE TO GET THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC SAFELY INTO THE SITE.
AND YOU CAN SEE IN THAT PURPLE COLOR WHERE THE OFFICE CHEWING AND STACKING WOULD NEED TO TAKE PLACE.
AND YOU'LL NOTE WITH THAT BLACK DOT DASHED LINE, THAT THAT IS GOING TO REQUIRE A CONSIDERABLE MORE AMOUNT OF CONSENT AND COOPERATION WITH AIDAN TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WITHOUT CONFLICTING.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE WITH THE TRAFFIC STACKING, UH, TO BE ABLE TO GO WESTBOUND ON THE TWO OH TWO.
SO THERE'S SOME PHYSICAL LIMITATIONS, AGAIN, JUST FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, AS WE LOOK AT IT.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE LOOKED AT IS WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE INCREASE, BECAUSE IF I'M TWO TIMES THE AMOUNT OF TRIPS THAT OFFICE USE WOULD GENERATE, UM, YOU CAN SEE THERE, AND THOSE FIGURES ARE AN INCREASE ABOVE WHAT OUR DEVELOPMENT IS OFFERING.
SO THERE IS 110% INCREASE OF TRAFFIC THAT OFFICE WOULD BRING, UM, ALONG MCQUEEN ROAD, A 55% INCREASE ALONG JERMAINE ROAD, AND IMPORTANTLY, A 39%, ALMOST 40% INCREASE ALONG SENATE STREET.
AND AS LAUREN INDICATED IN HER PRESENTATION, A LOT OF THOSE HOMES ALONG SENATE STREET, ACTUALLY FRONT ONTO THE STREET, THEIR FRONT DOORS OPEN UP ONTO IT.
AND SO, UM, UM, I'M CONFIDENT THAT IF WE WERE TO PUT A BUNCH OF TRAFFIC UP AND DOWN SENATE STREET, I'D HAVE A LOT MORE PEOPLE STANDING IN THIS ROOM TODAY TALKING TO ME ABOUT IT.
SO WE'VE LOOKED AT IT AND WE'VE GONE DOWN.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE QUESTION WAS ASKED AND WE WANTED TO BE THOROUGH OBVIOUSLY FROM A NEIGHBOR STANDPOINT.
AND I, AND I MENTIONED THAT, BUT I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON A FEW THINGS THAT AS IT RELATES TO PLANNING, AND THIS IS DEVELOPMENT, I'VE TALKED ABOUT THE NEIGHBORS AND THEIR, UM, UH, ACCEPTANCE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
BUT I THINK AS WE LOOK AT, IF, IF THIS HAD BEEN DESIGNATED EMPLOYMENT, UH, AS WE'VE HEARD TODAY, THEN THAT WOULD HAVE AFFECTED THE DEVELOPMENT OF A PRIOR CASE.
UM, AND THAT IS IF WE LOOK AT THE HORIZON CASE AND I'VE HIGHLIGHTED WHERE THOSE AREAS ARE, THAT THEY HAVE A 10 FOOT SETBACK THAT IS ALONG THAT NORTH PROPERTY LINE.
AND YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE IN THIS PICTURE, HOW CLOSE THAT IS, AND IF YOU'VE WALKED IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S RELATIVELY CLOSE, I CAN GUARANTEE.
AND THERE'S NOT MANY THINGS I CAN GUARANTEE IN LIFE, BUT I WILL GUARANTEE THAT IF THIS HAD BEEN DESIGNATED EMPLOYMENT STAFF WOULD HAVE REQUIRED A SIGNIFICANT, UH, LANDSCAPE SETBACK, POSSIBLY AN OPEN-SPACE TRACT AND, UH, ADDITIONAL, UM, SETBACKS FROM THE HOMES THEMSELVES.
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UM, SO WHEN THAT DEVELOPMENT WENT IN, UM, AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT ONE, BUT THE WAY THE CHARACTER IN THE AREA HAS SHAPED AND LED ITSELF TO BE AS INFLUENCED THAT PRIOR CASE, AND THOSE HOMES ARE BUILT HERE TODAY.SO I WANT TO TOUCH BRIEFLY BECAUSE I'M CERTAINLY A BIG FAN OF CHANDLER HAS DONE AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB, GETTING A NUMBER OF HIGH QUALITY JOBS.
AND I KNOW THAT'S THE COUNCIL'S DESIRE AND TO SEE THAT, BUT AS WE TAKE A LOOK ALONG THE TWO OH TWO, AND THIS IS A GOOD GRAPHIC TO ILLUSTRATE THAT, AND WITHIN A TWO MILE AREA FROM ALMA SCHOOL, ALL THE WAY TO OVER TO COOPER AND THE TWO OH TWO, THERE IS A LITTLE OVER ALMOST 1.1 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE THAT'S ENTITLED.
I'VE BOLDED NUMBER THREE, UM, BECAUSE THERE IS 65,000 SQUARE FEET THAT IS COMING OUT OF THE GROUND AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF ALMA SCHOOL.
AND TWO OH TWO, WHICH I BELIEVE IS AN EXTENSION OF BANNER.
SO I THINK IT'S MEDICAL, BUT YET YOU STILL HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT NUMBER ONE, UH, WHICH IS A STONE'S THROW FROM WHERE I LIVE 462,000 SQUARE FEET OF A FOUR STORY OFFICE BUILDING THAT WAS TO BREAK GROUND IN 2016 AND WE CAN GO DOWN IT.
BUT I THINK YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A NUMBER OF OTHER BETTER SITUATED, UM, LOCATIONS THAT CERTAINLY AREN'T AS INTEGRATED WITH RESIDENTIAL AS THIS ONE IS TO HAVE AN EMPLOYMENT, BE IT OFFICE OR INDUSTRIAL TYPE USE YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED TODAY.
TWO EMAILS, UM, THAT WERE SENT, UM, BECAUSE WANTING TO MAKE SURE I LOOKED UNDER EVERY NOOK AND EVERY CRANNY, UM, TALK TO, TO REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS IN THE BUSINESS.
AND SO YOU WOULD RECEIVE AN EMAIL OR A LETTER FROM BARRY GABLE WITH CVRE HAS 37 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE BULLYING OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS AND ALL THAT, THAT LETTER SPEAK FOR ITSELF.
BUT HE SAID, HE LOOKED AT THIS SITE FROM AN OFFICE AND DIDN'T SEE THE VIABILITY OF IT.
ANOTHER EMAIL LETTER THAT YOU WOULD HAVE RECEIVED WAS FROM SAM IS WITH REGION PROPERTIES.
THEY HAVE OVER 32 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN 5 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE IN THE PHOENIX AREA.
AND AGAIN, HE DID NOT SEE THIS AS A VIABLE, UM, OFFICE SITE.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, UM, ONE OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT I KNOW ANDY BARRON WORKED ON IS THE CHANDLER AIRPORT CENTER.
ONE THAT IS A PRIDE TO THE CITY.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO IT, AND ANDY CAN SPEAK MORE ABOUT THAT.
BUT AS WE LOOK AT IT, THERE'S STILL 90 ACRES OF LAND.
UM, THAT'S DOWN THE ROAD THAT CAN BE DEVELOPED, UM, AS EMPLOYMENT USES, QUICK SIDE STORY, THAT STAR THAT I PLACED ON THE SCREEN THERE, I CAN'T BEGIN TO TELL YOU THAT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE CONTACTED ME TO PUT AN INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THAT PARTICULAR PIECE, IT'S TUCKED BACK.
IT'S NOT ALONG THE ARTERIAL, BUT THE DISCUSSIONS THAT I'VE HAD WITH THEM, AND THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH STAFF IS THAT AS AN OFFICE PIECE INDUSTRIAL GO AWAY, I'LL ALSO TELL YOU THAT OTHER STAR THAT I PUT UP THERE AT, AT COOPER IN THE TWO OH TWO, AGAIN, I CAN'T BEGIN TO TELL YOU THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT CONTACTED MYSELF AND MR. BULL ABOUT THAT PIECE SAYING, HEY, WE WANT MULTIFAMILY ON THAT PIECE.
AND EVERY TIME ANYONE BRINGS THAT UP TO US, WE SAY NO WAY IN HADES, ARE YOU EVER GOING TO GET MULTIFAMILY ON THAT PIECE? WE THINK IT MAKES SENSE, BUT WE KNOW THE CITY'S PRIORITIES.
AND SO WE ARE CERTAINLY SENSITIVE TO THAT.
ALSO, YOU'VE GOT ON THE SOUTH SIDE, SOUTHEAST SIDE OF THE AIRPORT, UM, OVER 200 ACRES OF AVAILABLE LAND.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BUSINESSES LIKE TO GROUP TOGETHER.
AND I'LL GET INTO THAT A MINUTE.
AND CERTAINLY THE BERG FAMILY IS ONE OF THE MAJOR STAKEHOLDERS DOWN IN THIS AREA.
AND THEY'RE EXCITED TO SEE THAT CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT.
THEY ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE DISCUSSION THAT MAYOR DUNN, FORMER MAYOR DONE, UM, CHAIRMAN DUNN, COMMISSIONER, WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO CALL AND BOYD, UH, GAVE IN TERMS OF THE PRIORITY FOR COOPER ROAD, GOING THROUGH AND FIGURING OUT A WAY TO MAKE THAT WORK.
AND I KNOW THAT THE BIRD FAMILY IS EXCITED FOR THAT.
SO PLANNING PRINCIPLES, AS WE LOOK AT IT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PLANNERS WILL TELL YOU IS THAT YOU WANT TO, UM, TRANSITION DENSITY AND INTENSITY, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
THE MULTIFAMILY THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, UM, AT THE DENSITY THAT IS APPROPRIATE PER UH, THE, ALL THE GUIDING DOCUMENTS PROVIDES THAT TRANSITION AS A RENTAL COMMUNITY, TO THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE IS SOUTH AND SOUTHEAST OF US, WE PROVIDE THAT BUFFER.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU LOOK AS YOU DRIVE AROUND THE CITY, YOU LOOK IN, YOU SEE MORE INTENSE USES, UH, TRANSITIONING TO LESS INTENSE USES.
THE OTHER THING THAT YOU SEE A LOT OF TIMES.
AND I THINK IT'S, I PUT THIS UP ON PURPOSE.
YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE CONTRASTING AREAS BETWEEN COOPER AND MCQUEEN IS THAT LIKE DEVELOPMENTS LIKE TO RUN TOGETHER.
UM, THERE'S SYNERGY IN HAVING DEVELOPMENTS CLOSE TOGETHER.
AND CERTAINLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING EMPLOYMENT AND OFFICE, ONE OF THE STRONG POOLS IS TO HAVE COMMERCIAL RETAIL NEARBY SO THAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO WALK AND SUPPORT THOSE COMMERCIAL SERVICES.
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OF THAT STUFF AT MCQUEEN.AND THE TWO OH TWO, UM, JUST TO KINDA KIND OF SUM UP WHEN WE LOOK AT PLANNING, THIS WAS FROM, UM, THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, THE PLANNING STAFF MADE TO THIS GROUP, UH, ON A MULTIFAMILY BRIEFING 2020.
SO JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO, AND IN PARTICULAR, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT SUBURBAN DENSITIES.
AND AGAIN, I CAN APPRECIATE THE PLANNING AND ECONOMIC MIGHT SEE THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, BUT AS FAR AS WHAT WE LOOK AT AND WE FOCUS PLANNING IS IMPORTANT, AND YOU CAN SEE THERE WHERE THIS DENSITY IS APPROPRIATE, ADJACENT TO FREEWAYS AND AJAY ALONG FREEWAYS IT'S APPROPRIATE, AND IT'S ADJACENT TO EMPLOYMENT.
WE CHECK BOTH OF THOSE BOXES WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.
WE ARE, UH, CERTAINLY ALONG A FREEWAY AND A RESIDENTIAL AREA, UH, AND WE'RE ADJACENT TO A FUTURE EMPLOYMENT.
UM, ONE OF THE TAKEAWAYS FROM THAT, THAT BRIEFING WAS, UM, TO CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THE GENERAL PLAN, UM, AND RECOMMENDING DENSITIES INAPPROPRIATE LOCATIONS.
AND THAT LAST BULLET POINT I THINK IS VERY APPROPRIATE AND IT'S WHERE I STARTED AND IT'S WHERE I'M IN.
AND THAT IS THE DIRECTION IS TO PRESERVE EMPLOYMENT AREAS.
UM, AND CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, IT, IT SAYS THERE THAT, AGAIN, AS WE'VE TALKED WITH PLANNING, WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THEM.
SO AGAIN, AS WE LOOK AT IT, I CAN GO INTO MORE DETAILS, BUT AT THE END, END OF THE DAY, IT'S A HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT IT'S BEEN VETTED, BEEN THROUGH.
WE VETTED, HAPPY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH YOU TODAY ABOUT DESIGN AND STUFF LIKE THAT, IF WE NEED TO, BUT IN TERMS OF THE LAND USE, WE'VE VETTED.
IT'S CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE GUIDING DOCUMENTS AND THOSE ARE DOCUMENTS THAT WE RELY ON.
YOU GUYS RELY ON THEM AS WELL.
I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION A FEW MONTHS AGO CONCERNING A, UH, A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT ALONG ARIZONA AVENUE, NORTH OF JERMAINE ROAD.
LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE GENERAL PLAN IN THE AREA RELATIVE TO THAT PARTICULAR CASE, THOSE KINDS OF SAME PRINCIPLES.
LET'S LOOK AT THE GENERAL PLAN.
LET'S ANALYZE THE AREA ARE APPLICABLE TO THIS DISCUSSION TONIGHT.
UM, NO NEIGHBORHOOD OPPOSITION.
AND AGAIN, I, I, I CAN'T UNDERSTATE THAT BECAUSE WE KNOW, I KNOW THE SENSITIVITY OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN SOUTH CHAMBER OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN THE MCQUEEN ROAD CORRIDOR.
WE DON'T, I DON'T THINK YOU ALL HAVE BEEN POUNDED WITH EMAILS.
UM, AND SO I THINK IT SPEAKS THAT THIS TYPE OF A RENTAL DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN ACCEPTED BY THE COMMUNITY, UH, AS IT RELATES TO THIS AREA.
AND SO, AGAIN WITH THAT, UM, I KNOW THERE WERE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS, BUT I'M GOING TO SHUT UP NOW AT THIS POINT.
UM, I'VE PROBABLY TAKEN MORE THAN A LITTLE MORE THAN THREE MINUTES.
BUT AT THE END WE WOULD REQUEST THIS COUNCIL'S APPROVAL IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNANIMOUS CONSENT PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.
I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE QUESTIONS.
UM, I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER THEM.
IF I CAN'T ANSWER THEM, I'LL TALK WITH MY CLIENT.
I'LL TALK WITH, UH, ANDY BARRON AND WE'LL CERTAINLY ANSWER, DO OUR BEST TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS, GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. WRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU WERE VERY THOROUGH AND YOU TOOK YOUR TIME AND SHOW US ALL THE POINTS THAT WE NEEDED TO KNOW IN ORDER FOR US TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION TONIGHT FOR YOUR CLIENT.
MY MAIN QUESTION TO YOU AS WE HAVE SPOKEN SO MANY TIMES ABOUT THIS PROJECT, IS THAT I'M NOT GOING TO ASK YOU THE QUESTIONS THAT I'VE ALREADY ASKED MICAH OR THE STAFF ALREADY, BECAUSE I'D DONE MY HOMEWORK.
I UNDERSTOOD THIS PROJECT FROM HEAD TO TOE.
I PASS IN FRONT OF THIS PIECE OF LAND EVERY SINGLE DAY, FIVE, SIX TIMES A DAY.
SO I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WHERE THINGS ARE.
MY QUESTION TONIGHT THOUGH, IS FOR THE FACT THAT DENSITY, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DENSITY.
YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU ARE RIGHT ON TARGET WITH DENSITY AT 12%, WHICH IS THE LOWEST AMOUNT OF DENSITY THAT IS ALLOWED ON THIS SITE.
WHY WAS, WASN'T IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU AND YOUR CLIENT TO TAKE THIS TO THE MATS, GIVEN US AT LEAST A WONDERFUL VIEW WHEN WE ARE DRIVING DOWN THE TOUR TO, OR ANY OTHER PLACE? I, AGAIN, I KNOW YOU HAVE PEOPLE ALL AROUND YOU, YOU HAVE PRIVACY ISSUE TO DEAL WITH, BUT WHY WAS THIS NOT GO UP AT LEAST TO 16, 17? WHAT'S THAT, UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL, WOMAN ELLIS.
UM, AND I THINK AS WE LOOK AT IT, UM, ONE IN TERMS OF THE DENSITY OF THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF A PRODUCT, A SINGLE FAMILY STYLE, A ONE AND TWO STORY, UH, UNITS, UM, THE MAX DENSITY THAT I'VE EVER SEEN IN THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT IS, UH, RIGHT AROUND 12.
SOMETIMES DEPENDING ON THE SITE, YOU CAN GET TO 13, BUT THIS TYPE OF A, OF A DEVELOPMENT, WHICH I DIDN'T SPEAK TO, AND I CAN TALK MORE IF I NEED TO JUST DOESN'T ACHIEVE THAT LEVEL OF DENSITY.
BUT I THINK IMPORTANTLY, AS A NUMBER OF, OF YOUR COLLEAGUES AROUND
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THE DIOCESE WILL ATTEST, UM, THERE HAS BEEN A HEIGHTENED SENSITIVITY TO APARTMENTS IN PARTICULAR APARTMENT COMPLEXES BEING BUILT, UH, IN SOUTH CHANDLER.UH, AND I'VE HAD LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS WITH YOUR COLLEAGUES, UH, WHO SAID, BRENNAN, I'M GETTING LOTS OF EMAILS ABOUT NO MORE APARTMENTS SOUTH OF THE TWO OH TWO.
UM, AND CERTAINLY THERE'S A TRAFFIC CONCERN THAT PLAYS INTO THAT.
SO AS WE LOOKED AT THIS SITE AND WHAT TO DEVELOP, WE WEREN'T, WE WERE SENSITIVE TO THE EXISTING, UM, UM, COMMENTS, UM, THAT COUNCIL HAD RECEIVED RELATIVE TO THAT.
AND WE KNEW THAT IF THIS WERE TO BE A HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT, TWO AND THREE STORIES, THREE AND FOUR STORIES, YOUR TRADITIONAL APARTMENT COMPLEX WOULD LIKELY I'D BE HAVING A LOT MORE NEIGHBORS IN HERE WANTING TO TALK WITH ME ABOUT IT, WANTING TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT IT, WHICH IS ALWAYS, ALWAYS A FIND, ALWAYS A FINE BALANCE.
BUT I THINK WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT, THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, WE WANTED TO BE SENSITIVE TO WHAT I'VE HEARD FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, WHAT I THINK YOU ALL HAVE HEARD FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
AND WE THINK IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY THE RIGHT FIT FOR THE LOCATION.
I'VE NEVER, UM, TOLD YOU ANY CONTRARY TO WHAT I'M SAYING RIGHT NOW.
I THINK IT'S REALLY GRATEFUL CHANDLER WHERE YOU WANT TO PUT IT.
IT'S, UH, IT'S A WONDERFUL, AND I'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF PROBLEM WITH DENSITY, BUT TONIGHT I'M VERY PLEASED OF ALL THE POINTS THAT YOU HAVE REALLY SEWN TO US THAT THIS IS THE PLACE FOR THIS PROJECT.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO.
THANK YOU, BRENDAN, FOR PROTECTING OUR EMPLOYMENT CORRIDORS.
YOU'RE PROTECTING AS WELL AS, UH, OTHER PEOPLE ARE WISH THE OTHER FOLKS IN YOUR POSITION WOULD BE DOING THAT AS WELL.
UM, SO LET ME GO BACK TO THE TWO-STORY BUILDINGS.
ARE THERE WINDOWS IN THE BACK OF THESE TWO STORIES? SO IT'S ACTUALLY FACING OVER THE, I KNOW.
THE RESIDENTS HAVE A BUNCH OF TWO STORIES ON THEIR SIDE, CORRECT? ON THE, ON THE EXISTING RESIDENTS, MAYOR, COUNCILMAN ORLANDO.
THEY'RE ALL TWO STORY HOMES THAT LINE, THAT, THAT REAR, THAT, THAT REAR.
AND THEN, SO MY OTHER QUESTION WAS IT'S TWO STORIES THAT ARE ACTUALLY BASICALLY BACK TO BACK.
SO YOUR PRODUCT HAS TWO STORIES, SPACING.
THEY'RE TWO STORIES I'M TRYING TO SAY.
UM, IF, IF, IF I CAN LET ME TRY TO DO A BETTER JOB AND I MIGHT BOUNCE AROUND IN TERMS OF EXHIBITS.
I MEAN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, MR. BULL WOULD PROBABLY CHASTISE ME, SO LET, LET ME JUST DO THIS.
HOW TALL ARE THOSE TWO STORIES? BUILDINGS.
ROUGHLY, UM, BEAR WITH ME ONE MINUTE.
THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCILMAN ORLANDO, ROUGHLY 26, 27 FEET.
SO A TYPICAL TWO STORY HEIGHT IN TERMS OF THAT.
AND, AND AS I WAS SPEAKING WITH THEM, AND I KNOW IT'S TOUGH TO TELL ON THIS, IF THEY PULL THAT UP.
UM, BUT WE PURPOSELY, UM, HAVE ORIENTED THOSE SO THAT THEY ARE TO OUR DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND, AND I COULD ZOOM IN, OKAY, THAT'S THE ISSUE IS THIS, UH, AND I GET THAT.
IF WE PUT IN A MULTIFLEX BUILDING HERE, WOULD YOU BE COMING IN FOR A MID-RISE OVERLAY TO BE HIGHER THAN 40,000 FEET, OR ACTUALLY REPHRASE THE QUESTION? YOU'D GO AS HIGH AS 45 FEET, IF YOU WANTED TO PUT A FLEX BUILDING HEATER, CORRECT.
UH, THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCILMAN ORLANDO, IN TERMS OF A FLEX INDUSTRIAL BUILDING.
THAT WOULD BE, I BELIEVE THE LAST ONE THAT I WORKED ON FROM AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING THAT YOU ALL WOULD HAVE SEEN WAS FERGUSON.
UH, AND THAT WAS, UH, I THINK 50, 52 FEET, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE FLUX INDUSTRIAL ARE REQUIRED GREATER INTERIOR CLEAR SPACE, UM, FOR OPERATIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
THEN YOU THROW ALL THE SCREENING AND ALL OF THOSE, UH, INEVITABLY, UH, KICK IT OVER CHANDLER'S 45 FEET HEIGHT REQUIREMENT, WHICH KICKS IN THE MID-RISE.
SO IT WOULD BASICALLY BE DOUBLE THE SIZE, LOOKING OUT MY BACKYARD, UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCILMAN ORLANDO.
NOW THERE MAY BE GOOD OR BAD BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO SAY THE FREEWAY, BUT THE POINT IS, AND PROBABLY ARCHITECTURAL YOU'D HAVE TO STRUGGLE AND YOU PUT THE CARS OR THE EMPLOYMENT COMPLEX RIGHT NEXT TO THE HOMES.
THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCILMAN OR ORLANDO, THERE'S A VARIETY OF WAYS OF WHICH THAT, THAT COULD BE WHERE YOU PUT A DOCK THERE, THAT THERE'S A NUMBER OF WAYS THAT YOU CAN DO IT.
UM, I COULD SPECULATE AND I COULD DRAW AND GUESS, BUT THERE IS THAT POSSIBILITY.
YOU WOULD BE THERE PUTTING DOCS BACK THERE, OR HE WOULD PUT PUTTING CARS BACK THERE FACING THE NEIGHBORS, WHICH HAS MORE TRAFFIC.
AND IT JUST WOULD BE, I GUESS, I'M VISUALIZING HOW THAT WOULD FLOW.
A TRAFFIC WOULD FLOW TO THAT BILL, EVEN IF I PUT THE BOT DOCK
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IN THE CARS AND THEY'D BEEN, THE BUILDINGS ARE GONNA BE RIGHT ON TOP OF THE NEIGHBORS.SO EITHER WAY, I DON'T SEE A GOOD SCENARIO HERE WOULD A BUILDING THAT LARGE BEING PLOPPED INTO THIS AREA.
PLUS THE OTHER THING I WANT TO ASK YOU, UM, THIS TRAFFIC STUDY YOU DID AS FAR AS THE RIGHT HAND TURNS, OBVIOUSLY YOU WOULD WANT RIGS OR THEY WOULD POTENTIALLY WANT RIGS TO BECOMING IN THEIR LARGER RIGS.
SO YOUR ANALYSIS TOOK INTO FACT THAT LARGER TRUCKS WOULD HAVE BECOME OUT THE FREEWAY TO MAKE A LEFT HAND TURN INTO THAT, UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCILMAN ORLANDO.
NO, THAT JUST PRESUMED, UM, NORMAL, NORMAL TRAFFIC.
IT DID NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ANY POTENTIAL, ADDITIONAL STACKING.
IT WOULD BE NEEDED FOR GETTING THE, THE, THE BIGGER BOX TRUCKS OR THE BIGGER SEMI-TRUCKS TO, TO SERVICE THIS SITE.
UH, I GOT A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS ARE RESERVED FOR LATER, BUT, UM, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT STAFF REVIEW THAT TRAFFIC FLOW THAT YOU PUT ON THAT CHART, AS FAR AS THE COUPLE OF LINES THAT YOU PUT IN THERE ABOUT POTENTIAL, WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE TO TURN AND NOT TURN YEAH.
THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCILMAN ORLANDO, IN TERMS OF, OF THE, THE POTENTIAL IMPACT OF THE OFFICE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT, THAT WAS NOT PROVIDED BECAUSE NORMALLY, UM, IN THIS SCENARIO IS WHAT STAFF REVIEWS AND STAFF ANALYZES IS, UM, THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THE IMPACT THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE ON THE ADJACENT STREETS.
AND, AND I CAN TELL YOU, THERE WAS A, A LENGTHY DISCUSSION WITH THEM ABOUT TRAFFIC, ABOUT SLOS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, ESPECIALLY, UM, WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT, UM, WE FELT THAT THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD WORK FINE AS IS, UM, WE FELT THERE WAS A WAY THAT IT COULD WORK WITHOUT THE NEED FOR THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
THEY'RE HAPPY TO MAKE ACCOMMODATION, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS, UM, AND, AND HOPEFULLY I DON'T GET IN TROUBLE FOR SAYING THIS, BUT STAFF WANTED US TO PUT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL THERE.
UM, BECAUSE AS I BELIEVE MIKE HAD MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, THE ACTIVITY THAT HE'D SEEN IN ISLE MICAH, IF I'M WRONG, I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU WENT TO POLICE.
UM, IS THAT I BELIEVE THE ACTIVITY THAT HE HAD BEEN SEEING IS ALONG ARMSTRONG WAY AND HAMILTON ALIGNMENT, WHICH IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF YOUR MUNICIPAL UTILITIES DISTRICT, UH, AS YOU GUYS ARE ONE OF THE MAJOR LANDOWNERS.
I, I, I, MY QUESTION AGAIN, I I'M ASSUMING STAFF WOULD PROBABLY AGREE WITH THOSE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS THAT YOU PUT TOGETHER.
SO AGAIN, I'LL, I'LL TAKE, I'LL TAKE YOUR WORD FOR THAT ONE.
MOVING ON COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.
UH, I WANTED TO GET BACK TO THOSE BACKYARDS AND THERE WAS ANOTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO ASK.
UM, AND TIMES OF RENTS, UH, IS CONCERNED IN TERMS OF RENTS.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, WHAT WOULD MAKE $33,000 A YEAR? UM, AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S IMPORTANT.
THAT'S IMPORTANT, UM, BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE WANT TO MOVE TO CHANNEL, BUT WE HAVE THIS WORK FORCE HOUSING THAT WE WOULD REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT AS WELL.
UM, BUT GETTING TO THE DEVELOPMENT, I WANTED TO KIND OF KNOW, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH DOES A PERSON HAVE TO MAKE TO, TO LIVE IN, IN THIS PARTICULAR, UM, PROJECT.
AND THEN ALSO, UM, I DO AGREE WITH, UM, VICE MAYOR, UH, STEWART, UM, CHANDLER HAS OFTEN PRIDE ITSELF ON PARTS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE PARKS IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE CHILDREN CAN PLAY.
I DON'T THINK IF I WAS LIVING IN A GATED COMMUNITY, I WOULD WANT MY CHILD TO LEAVE THE GATED COMMUNITY BECAUSE I FEEL THAT THERE WOULD BE A SAFETY NET THERE.
UM, BUT THE PLAN DOES NOT THE PLAN, UM, TO VICE MAYOR'S POINT.
UM, I, I DON'T SEE THAT CALL FOR PARKS, BUT MAYBE YOU CAN DISCUSS THE THEORY AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WITH THE BACKYARD AND THE THING.
AND SO IF YOU CAN TALK TO US ABOUT THAT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME BE HAPPY TO MAYOR COUNCILMAN HARRIS.
UM, LET ME TALK ABOUT THE CHILDREN FIRST, IF I CAN, UH, TO, TO PHRASE IT THAT WAY.
SO I, AGAIN, THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH STAFF AND I'VE, I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON THIS TYPE OF A PRODUCT THROUGHOUT THE VALLEY.
UM, WE WERE THE FIRST ONES TO DO THIS.
WE DID IT IN CHANDLER OVER AT ALMA SCHOOL AND PECOS, UH, AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE'VE WORKED ON.
AND I THINK INDUSTRY-WIDE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL HOMES, UH, IT IS A LIFESTYLE CHOICE.
NUMBER ONE, UM, PEOPLE THAT TO LIVE HERE, UH, COULD LIVE ELSEWHERE.
UM, BUT A NUMBER, LARGE NUMBER OF THEM CHOOSE TO LIVE IN THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
IT REALLY APPEALS TO A LARGE NUMBER OF SINGLE WOMEN, UM, SURPRISINGLY, UM, BECAUSE THEY HAVE SECURITY OF FOUR
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WALLS OF FREEDOM.THEY DO HAVE A PRIVATE REAR YARD, AND THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER I WOULD DARE SAY, PROBABLY ON AVERAGE, ABOUT 50% OR MORE OF THIS TYPE OF A COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE SINGLE WOMEN IN IT BECAUSE THERE IS SOME PRIVACY, THERE IS SOME SECURITY, AGAIN, THEY DON'T WORRY ABOUT PEOPLE AROUND THEM.
AND SO AS WE, AS WE LOOK AT THIS DEVELOPMENT AND WHO IT APPEALS TO, THERE'S KIND OF BOTH ENDS OF THE SPECTRUM.
IT APPEALS TO THOSE PEOPLE THAT, UM, ARE BABY BOOMERS, EMPTY-NESTERS, UM, PRECEDING YOUR SENIORS, PEOPLE THAT WANT TO DOWNSIZE AND WANT A TRUE LOCKTON AND LEAVE AT LIFESTYLE.
THIS IS GOING TO BE MANAGED POTENTIALLY BY, UM, GREYSTAR, UH, WHO IS ONE OF THE PREEMINENT, UM, PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANIES ACROSS, ACROSS THE, ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
ONE OF THE LARGEST, UM, IN THIS TYPE OF A DEVELOPMENT MAINTENANCE IS ALL INCLUDED.
SO THE REAR YARDS ARE MAINTAINED BY THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY.
IF A LIGHT BULB GOES OUT IN THE UNIT, YOU CALL THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY AND THEY TAKE CARE OF IT.
SO IT'S KIND OF AN ALL INCLUSIVE TYPE THING, BECAUSE THAT IT LEADS TO, AGAIN, WAS I WAS MENTIONED ON ONE END THE BOOMERS ON THE OTHER END, WHAT WE SEE ARE A LOT OF YOUNG PROFESSIONALS, PEOPLE THAT HAVE DONE THE APARTMENT LIVING, UM, THAT MAYBE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY SAVED UP FOR A DOWN PAYMENT ON A HOME, UM, OR PEOPLE THAT ARE NEW TO THE AREA AND WANT TO SEE WHAT IT'S LIKE BEFORE THEY, BEFORE THEY REALLY, UM, UH, GO AND PURCHASE A HOME.
AND SO ALL THAT LEADS UP TO WHAT THEY'RE SEEING ON AVERAGE IN THIS PARTICULAR PRODUCT IS TWO CHILDREN FOR EVERY 10 RESIDENCES.
AND THAT DATA HAS CONSISTENTLY BORN OUT, UM, THROUGH, AS YOU LOOK AT THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO PURPOSEFULLY THERE'S, THERE'S NOT A TOT LOTS THAT AREN'T, YOU WON'T SEE A PROLIFERATION OF TOT LOTS THROUGH THESE TYPES OF COMMUNITIES, BUT THAT SAID, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING FROM AN AMENITIES STANDPOINT.
UM, THIS IS WHEN YOU DRIVE IN AND YOU CAN'T SEE IT.
THE IS DOWN OVER HERE THAT AS YOU DRIVE IN, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS THE BUILDING THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, AND THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING INTO, BUT WHAT YOU CAN SEE THERE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE IS KIND OF A KEYNOTE OF THE AMENITIES THAT WE'VE GOT IN THERE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A LOT GOING ON.
THAT THAT JUST SHOWED UP ON OUR FAULT.
NO, I DO NOT BEAR RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT ONE.
THIS ONE WE DO HAVE POOL INSPIRES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE GOT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COURT, AND YOU CAN START TO SEE IT AS A CENTRALIZED OPEN SPACE, WHERE THERE IS TURF AND AREAS FOR PEOPLE TO GATHER.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE, AGAIN, IN THIS OTHER AMENITY AREAS, PICKLEBALL COURTS AND, AND RAMADA IS IN AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AS WE KIND OF SEE IT AND REALLY KIND OF UNIQUE SETTING, AND ANDY BARON CAN SPEAK MORE TO THAT.
BUT AGAIN, THE, THE, THE, IT DOESN'T BEAR OUT THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF LARGE CHILDREN THAT ARE IN IT.
ADDITIONALLY, WE'VE GOT TUMBLEWEED PARK IT'S RIGHT AROUND OUR SIDE, BUT ALL THAT SAID, IF WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AND YOU WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER LOOKING AT A POTENTIAL TOT LOT OR SOME TYPE OF, OF ACTIVITY LIKE THAT, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO CONSIDER SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THIS TYPE OF A DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I, I THINK I'VE TOUCHED ON ALL THAT AND THE BACKYARDS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
THE BACKYARDS, I BELIEVE ARE A MINIMUM OF EIGHT FEET DEEP.
UM, THEY ARE LANDSCAPE, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S LOTS OF AMENITIES THAT PEOPLE WANT, UM, FOR THIS TYPE, UH, IN TERMS OF THE RENT, THIS REALLY IS KIND OF A UNIQUE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT IT APPEALS TO A WIDE VARIETY OF INDIVIDUALS, UM, IN TERMS OF THE RENTS, UM, THEY RANGE, UM, AGAIN WITH EVERY LEGAL DISCLAIMER THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL ALLOW ME TO MAKE.
WHEN I START TALKING ABOUT RENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, UM, OUR, OUR RENT RANGE IS, IS REALLY ACROSS THE BOARD.
SO IT APPEALS, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE PEOPLE, UM, THAT MAY MAKE 30,000 A YEAR AS A COUNCIL PERSON, UM, TO LIVE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THOSE RENTS.
AND I VETTED IT WITH OUR CLIENT AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TO THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY, BUT, UH, ON THE LOW END, OUR RENTS ARE 1300 ON THE HIGH END.
OUR RUNS ARE RIGHT AROUND 2,500.
AND SO WE RUN, WE'D RUN THE GAMUT.
UM, OBVIOUSLY, UH, THE LARGER BEDROOMS PROVIDE, UM, GREATER A RENTAL RATE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND AS WE'VE LOOKED AT IN THAT, THAT, THAT RENTAL RANGE IN TERMS OF AN ANNUAL INCOME OF WHAT PEOPLE WOULD NEED TO MAKE, UH, IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 32,000 ON THE LOW END, ALL THE WAY UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND, UM, ON THE HIGH END, IN TERMS OF MINIMUMS TO BE ABLE TO QUALIFY FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE, UM, I'LL CALL IT WORKFORCE OPPORTUNITIES, UH, AND WE BELIEVE THERE'S ALSO OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE THAT, AGAIN, OTHERWISE WHO COULD OTHERWISE AFFORD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN IT ANY LONGER, UM, I'M GONNA GO FIRST TO COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVEN'T SPOKEN YET.
SO I KNOW, I THINK COUNSELOR HARRIS HAS KIND OF WAITING,
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BUT I'M GOING TO OKAY.I THOUGHT YOU'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET MY ATTENTION.
AND SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN CHANDLER, EVERYTHING'S CHANGED OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS AS IT RELATES TO, UH, WHAT KIND OF COMMUNITY, UH, CHANDLER HAS BECOME AND IS BECOMING, AND IT'S FROM COUNCIL'S WELL BEFORE US AND GREAT FAMILIES LIKE THE BERG FAMILY THAT INVESTED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND WE'RE APPRECIATIVE THAT YOUR PRESENTATIONS ARE ALWAYS EXTREMELY THOROUGH.
AND, UM, I'M GRATEFUL FOR HOW MUCH DETAIL YOU PUT INTO THAT.
YOU KNOW, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROJECT AND THE, UM, UM, BEING RESIDENTIAL, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN THERE.
I'M ALSO VERY INTERESTED IN THE QUALITY OF THE PROJECT.
AND MY I'VE, UH, UH, EVOLVED A LITTLE BIT IN MY THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT FROM WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING, I MET WITH A FAMILY.
WELL, YOU AND I HAVE TALKED A MILLION TIMES, I'VE TALKED WITH PLANNING STAFF BECAUSE THIS ISN'T SUCH AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF OUR COMMUNITY, RIGHT? AS YOU GET OFF THE HIGHWAY.
SO A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANT TO ASK FOR, AND, AND, AND, AND WE MAY, AND I MAY MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS TO THE MARCH 25TH MEETING.
UM, AND I'VE BEEN, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT IN THIS PRESENTATION PIECE.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN SPEAKING WITH FOLKS, UM, YOU KNOW, BEING OUT OF LAND, DOING ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHAT WE PUT IN.
UM, AND SO WHEN I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARK, RIGHT, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARKING RIGHT UP AGAINST THE, THE WALL THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO BROUGHT UP AND PEOPLE SLAMMING THEIR CAR DOORS WHEN THEY GET HOME FROM OUR WONDERFUL DOWNTOWN CHANDLER AT ONE 30 IN THE MORNING, AND WAKING UP THE NEIGHBORS, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT SOME OTHER THINGS AS IT RELATES TO, YOU TALKED ABOUT, UH, TWO KIDS PER EVERY, UM, 10 UNITS.
THAT'S 32 KIDS FOR THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH NOWHERE TO PLAY.
I JUST NOTICED THE POOL IS THE WIDTH OF A POOL OUT OF THE WIDTH OF THREE CARS FOR WHAT COULD BE UP TO 350 PEOPLE.
UM, SO THERE'S SOME WORK I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE HERE.
I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THE, UM, UM, IN AND OUT WOULD BE FOR THAT PARTICULAR.
I WOULD RATHER WAIT TILL WE GET A DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET.
BEFORE WE START WORRYING ABOUT STOPLIGHTS.
THIS MAY LET YOU OFF THE HOOK.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT AS A RIGHT TURN ONLY, UH, UNTIL WE GET MORE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA SO THAT PEOPLE CAN ACTIVELY GET TO THE HIGHWAY AND GET TO WORK, UH, IN PHOENIX AND OTHER PLACES LIKE THAT.
SO I THINK THERE'S SOME STEPS THAT I'D LIKE TO PUT IN, BUT I DON'T HAVE TIME.
AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME PEOPLE HERE THAT HAVE SOME VERY IMPORTANT THINGS THAT I SAY TO THE COUNCIL, BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS DISCUSSION, TO GET SOME OF THESE STIPULATIONS PUT IN, TO WORK WITH STAFF AND, UH, TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO IF IT'S NOT AN ATTORNEY OR A CITY ATTORNEY CAN HELP ME, UH, SAY THAT CORRECTLY.
AND IF ANYBODY WANTS TO MAKE A SECOND, I'D LIKE TO I'LL DO THAT.
IF I MAY MAYOR VICE MAYOR, I THINK YOU SAID IT PERFECTLY, YOU MOVED TO TABLE THIS TO MARCH 25TH.
UM, SO THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TABLE THIS TO THE 25TH CONSTANTLY.
ANY CONVERSATION ON THIS? I'M JUST GOING TO START ON THIS AS I, UM, I'M GOING TO VOTE NO ON THE EXTENSION.
CAUSE I, I DO THINK YOU HAVE CROSSED THE T'S AND I THINK YOU'VE DOUBTED THE ICE IN MY MIND THAT I, I CAME HERE QUITE OPEN TONIGHT.
SO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER LOPEZ, HOLD UP, GO AHEAD.
SO WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO SERVE THEM.
SO I WAS LIKE, YEAH, I'M GOING TO VOTE NO AGAINST THAT.
I BELIEVE THAT, UM, YOU ADDRESSED A LOT OF THE CONCERNS, UH, THAT EVEN I HAD MENTIONED WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC, I'M A BIG ONE TOO, OF, OF, OH, YOU KNOW, EMPLOYMENT IS VERY SACROSANCT IN, IN, IN CHANDLER, BUT WE DO HAVE TO TAKE THESE CASE BY CASE AND PUTTING OFFICE IN THERE IS REALLY, TO ME IN OTHER LIGHT AND INDUSTRIAL IS THAT WAY, NO, NO WAY IN HELL.
IS HE GOING TO BE GOING THERE BECAUSE OF THE, GETTING THE RESIDENTS IN THERE.
SO I THINK FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE WAY IT IS THE DESIGN THAT YOU HAVE.
UM, AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE PICTURES THEMSELVES, BUT IT SEEMS A LITTLE GRAY SCALING.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TYPICALLY, I'M NOT REALLY INTO THE LATEST DESIGNS, BUT IT SEEMS MAYBE A LITTLE MORE COLOR SOMEWHERE, BUT ANYWAY, UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK IT DOES MEET THE EXPECTATIONS THAT IT WOULD HAVE IT A DEVELOPMENT FOR RENTAL RIGHT ON THE FREEWAY NEAR INDUSTRIAL AND BY OTHER RESIDENTIAL.
SO I THINK IT, IT, IT CROSSES EVERYTHING FOR ME.
SO I'LL BE WANTING TO KNOW ON THAT.
THAT'S TELLING ME OTHER THOUGHTS BEFORE WE VOTE.
SO, UM, MAYOR, SO I GUESS I WANT TO JUST DIVE IN HERE.
I HEARD TONIGHT, UH, UH, TOP PARK.
I HEARD TONIGHT POTENTIAL ELECTRICAL VEHICLE PLUGIN, AND I ALSO HEARD MAYBE MORE COLOR DIVERSITY ON THE DESIGNS.
AND AGAIN, I'M JUST THROWING WHAT I'M HERE.
THE COUNCIL, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE LOOKING TO DO HERE IN, AS FAR AS, UH, EXTENDING THIS, IF THAT THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ITEMS
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WE COULD PUT THAT A STIP TONIGHT RIGHT NOW, AND WE WOULD COVER THAT AND STILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT.BUT THEN STAFF WOULD COME BACK WITH THE FINAL PLAT WITH ALL THIS ACTIVITY.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE LOOKING AT OR IS THERE OTHER STUFF YOU'RE LOOKING AT COUNCIL MEMBER, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING.
ORLANDO THAT'S THAT'S WELL PUT.
AND SO MY CONCERN WAS THERE'S A LOT GOING ON HERE.
WE'VE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS, NOT WITH YOU, BRENDAN, BUT WITH OTHER GROUPS THAT WERE, WHEN YOU'RE ASKING FOR STIPULATIONS THAT GETS A LITTLE LOST AND IT GETS A LITTLE IN THE WEEDS AND WE'RE UP HERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ON TV AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE THIS ALL OUT AND USING ROBERT'S RULES AND EVERYTHING GOES ALONG WITH THAT, BUT I'M A HAPPY TO WORK THROUGH THAT RIGHT HERE ON THE SPOT, IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT.
UM, AND RESCIND MY, UH, MY MOTION TO TABLE, UM, THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE MAYOR, IF IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO SPEAK, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A MOTION IN A SECOND ON THE FLOOR IT'S APPROPRIATELY REMOVED.
SO FIRST OF ALL, I THINK HE IS RESCINDING HIS MOTION.
SAY, UH, GIVE ME SOME GUIDANCE JUST TO MAKE SURE, SURE.
CITY ATTORNEY, MAYOR, AS LONG AS THE VICE MAYOR IS RESENDING HIS MOTION AND COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS IS RESENDING HER SECOND.
SO MAYOR, IF PRO I'M SORRY, MAYOR.
TRY TO SAY THIS GUY HERE, I JUST WANT TO START THIS PROCESS.
I JUST WANTED TO ASK MR. RAY, WHAT'S YOUR FOLKS HERE? ARE YOU INTERESTED? UH, IF WE PUT THESE STIPULATIONS THERE TONIGHT, UH, TO TAKE THAT BACK AND WORK WITH STAFF AND BE ABLE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN, THE COLOR, SOME MORE COLOR DIVERSITY, WHICH I AGREE WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER.
UH, I MEAN, THAT WAS ALMOST SAID, VICE MAYOR SEE THAT I LOPEZ, I AGREE.
ELECTRICAL VEHICLE WILL BE SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE'S TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, UM, IS STUART HAS BEEN CHAMPION AFTER A LONG TIME.
AND I THINK THAT'S VISIONARY AND THEN A TOT LOT, WHICH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, WHAT I'M GETTING, I'M REALLY LUCKY HARRIS.
UH, THOSE ARE THE THREE KEY THINGS I HEARD TONIGHT, UH, AS YOUR CLIENT.
WITH THOSE, IF WE MAKE A MOTION STIPULATE THOSE, UH, MAYOR COUNCIL, COUNCILMAN ORLANDO COUNCIL AS YOU'LL GIVE ME ONE SECOND CHICKEN.
I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT LET ME JUST CONFIRM IT.
LET ME, LET ME ASK A CLARIFIER TOO.
IF, IF THE QUESTION IS TO PUT ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGER IN EVERY ONE OF THESE, CERTAINLY CHEAPER THAN IF IT WOULD HAPPEN LATER, BUT AS IS THE REQUEST AS ASKED ARE AS IS THE REQUEST, UM, UM, JUST AUTOMATIC.
WHAT IS, WHAT IS THAT PART OF THE STEP? I UNDERSTAND THE TOT LOT.
NO, THIS IS NEBULOUS TO ME BECAUSE THERE IS, THERE IS THEN A PRICE COST THAT YOU'D BE PUTTING ON EACH INDIVIDUAL.
NO, I'M JUST, I HEARD THAT TONIGHT.
I'M ASKING THE, THE APPLICANT, IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT, IF THEY COME BACK AND SAY, YES, WE COULD DO THAT.
THEN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROVEN THIS, WHAT ARE THE STEPS? IF THEY SAY, GEE, I COULD DO THE TOT LOT.
THE OTHER THING, THEN THAT'S FINE.
I'M JUST, THIS IS WHAT I HEARD AS BEING.
CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT THE STIP IS THOUGH ON THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE? SO AGAIN, MY, LET ME HAVE THE FLOOR HERE AND I'LL, I'LL I'LL POINT ACCORDINGLY.
MY QUESTION IS, IS LET ME GO BACK TO YOU.
COME VICE MAYOR IS YOUR REQUEST THAT EVERY HOUSE HAVE, THIS ARE OUR REQUESTS BECAUSE WHAT ARE YOU, WHAT ARE WE THEN? ARE YOU TALKING A COUPLE OF ELECTRIC SPOTS ON THE FREE SPACES OR RIGHT.
AND THAT'S A BIG ASK IS WHAT ARE YOU, WHAT ARE YOU ASKING WITH THAT STEP? SO MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION QUESTION.
SO WE JUMPED FROM EMOTION TO RESENDING IT TOO.
SO LET'S, LET'S START OVER FROM, FROM THE TOP, IF WE CAN.
UM, WHAT, WHAT I'M REQUESTING IS ONE, WE NEED TO MOVE THE PARKING OFF THE BACK OF THOSE NEIGHBORS HOUSES.
UM, I THINK THIS IS A QUALITY PROJECT.
LIKE I'VE SAID, I WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S BUILT EXACTLY CONGRUENT WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN THAT PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME ELECTRIC VEHICLE, UH, OUTLETS FOR, UH, FOR, FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.
UH, WHAT WE DO FOR ON THE ONE ON CHANDLER AND THAT WAS 400 UNITS, AT LEAST A MINIMUM OF TWO.
WE COULD WORK THAT IN, I MEAN, MAYBE FOUR, UM, THEY'LL GET USED.
I I'M, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPOTS FOR THIS MANY UNITS, BUT, UM, WE'VE BEEN CUTTING OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING FOR QUITE SOME TIME BECAUSE WE EXPECT THAT UBER AND DRIVERLESS CARS WILL START TAKING OVER, UH, MAYBE IN 10 TO 20 YEARS.
SO, UM, THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD WAS, UM, AND I'M GETTING LOST HERE, UM, BECAUSE I HAD A LOT OF THEM, UM, OH, THE, UH, THE, THE, UH, THE LIGHT.
SO, UM, LET'S, LET'S FORGET ABOUT THE LIGHT FOR NOW.
UM, BECAUSE IF MY MEMORY SERVES CORRECTLY, STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE LIGHT BECAUSE OF THE INDUSTRIAL CENTER THERE.
ON THE OTHER SIDE, UH, W OKAY, SO THAT'S A STEPS.
NOW, IF I MAY THANK YOU, MAYOR, IF I CAN APPROPRIATELY RESPOND AND THEN START TALKING ABOUT SOME OTHER ONES, UM, WITH
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RESPECT TO TOT LOT HAPPY TO AGREE TO A STIPULATION TO A TOT LOT WITH RESPECT.AND I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD WHERE YOU WERE GOING ON THE CHARGING STATIONS BECAUSE OF OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSION, HAPPY TO PROVIDE AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT, MINIMUM TWO OR WHATEVER IT IS, CHARGING STATIONS FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN OUR DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THE, THE, THE, THE ONE CLARIFYING QUESTION THAT I HAVE BACK IS IS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PARKING AGAINST, AGAINST THE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND IF, IF THEY CAN MAKE THE MAGIC SCREEN WORK, UM, I W WHEN WE, THERE ARE NO PARKING, THERE IS NO PARKING THAT IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THOSE NEIGHBORS.
THAT'S IS UNLESS I'M MISTAKEN, NO PARKING, BUT OUR DRIVE IS 2016.
SO WHAT I'VE GOT IS I GO FROM SOUTH TO NORTH AND HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE ON THIS ONE IS, I'VE GOT A 10 FOOT LANDSCAPE SETBACK.
THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A SINGLE ROW OF TREES ALONG THERE.
SO I'VE GOT 10 FOOT LANDSCAPE SET BACK ROAD TREES, 25 FOOT DRIVE AISLE.
AND THEN I GET TO THE PARKING SPACES, UM, AND THOSE ALL FRONT AND IN OUR INTERIOR TO OUR DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S NO PARKING THAT IS ADJACENT TO, UM, THE HORIZON DEVELOPMENT.
IN ADDITION TO THOSE, I DO HAVE SOME CARRIAGE UNITS THAT ARE FURTHER WEST, AND I THINK COUNCILMAN ORLANDO ASKED WHAT THE X'S WERE.
THOSE ARE PARKING SPACES, THOSE BUILDINGS D F AND E THAT YOU SEE ON THAT THOSE ARE CARRIAGE UNITS ALONG THE SOUTH.
IN FACT, IF IT'S HELPFUL, I THINK I FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO THIS.
PARK, THOSE ARE THE CARDS THAT ARE LINED UP AGAINST THE BACK OF THOSE HOMES, UM, AGAINST OUR 20 FEET, THAT 35 FEET ACTUALLY.
THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE CLOSED DOWN GARAGES.
AND THE ONES WITH THE AXES ARE JUST NOT COVERED PARKING SPACES.
I THINK THERE'S ROUGHLY 20 SPOTS THERE, THERE, AND I JUST, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT A POTENTIAL STIPULATION WOULD BE.
UM, IN THAT, IN THAT REGARD, IT'S JUST A CONCERN FROM A NOISE PERSPECTIVE.
UM, IT JUST CREATING HARMONY BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOODS IS WHAT THE ROLE OF MUNICIPALITY IS, NEIGHBORHOODS, WHATEVER STREETS, ALL THOSE KINDS OF.
SO THOSE ARE SOME CHALLENGES THAT I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE FACED WITH THE WIDTH YOU'RE OFFICIALLY DONE.
THEY BASICALLY JUST SHOW YOU THAT.
AND, AND, AND, AND, AND, UM, THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE WAS DISCUSSED AT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT PRIVACY.
UM, AND AS WE EXPLAINED TO THEM, WHAT I'VE EXPLAINED HERE TONIGHT, WE'VE GOT GOOD SEPARATION.
WE'VE GOT GOOD DISTANCE THAT AT LEAST THOSE RESIDENTS IN THERE, I THINK THERE WERE A COUPLE THAT WERE ALONG THAT NORTH PROPERTY LINE THAT SPECIFICALLY ATTENDED OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND SPECIFICALLY ASKED THOSE QUESTIONS.
THEY WERE COMFORTABLE WITH IT, NOT TO SAY THAT SOME NEIGHBOR MIGHT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT IN THE FUTURE, BUT AT LEAST INITIALLY AS WE WERE PRESENTING THIS, AND WE SENT NOTICES OUT TO PEOPLE, EVERYONE WITHIN I THINK, 300 FEET OF THE SITE, 600 FEET OF THE SITE.
UM, AND SO IT GOES, DEREK, DEREK IS EVERY ONE OF THOSE HOMES, UH, OCCUPIED.
AND IT'S A BRAND NEW NEIGHBORHOOD THROUGH THE MAYOR, UH, VICE MAYOR.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE ALL OCCUPIED.
THEY, I BELIEVE THEY ARE WELL OCCUPIED.
UM, JUST THEY ARE, AND HE'S WORKED ON THAT DEVELOPMENT.
SO COUNCIL, WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THIS PARKING MAY? OR MAY I SAY SOMETHING? UM,
UM, YEAH, I'M NOT SURE WE'RE READY FOR EMOTION AT THIS POINT, BUT, UM, SO MY QUESTION IS WHERE ARE WE AT WITH OUR CONSOLE, OR YOU FIND HE'S DONE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WORK WITH US, THE NEIGHBORS SEEM FINE WITH US.
WE, ARE YOU GOOD WITH THE PARKING? I WANT TO KNOW.
DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT ON THIS COUNSELOR? YES.
UM, WELL, I WANTED TO SAY THAT I LIKED THE PROJECT THERE.
UM, I DO SUPPORT WHAT YOU SHARE.
UM, I THINK THAT OUTSIDE OF THE COSIGNERS VICE MAYOR, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT AT HAND.
UH, IF THERE'S SOME, IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL DETAILS AS MATT BEEN LAYING OFF, UH, CAN WE WORK THAT, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN WORK THAT OFFLINE VERSUS, UM, DOING IT RIGHT NOW, BUT WE COULD, UM, WE COULD MAKE A STEP.
WE NEED THE CITY ATTORNEY, UM, MAYOR, IF I MAY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, UH, THESE NEED TO BE ADDED TO THE ORDINANCE AS A STIPULATION, UM,
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SO THAT WE HAVE THAT FULL FORCE TO, TO REQUIRE THE DEVELOPER TO FALL.I DO REALIZE THIS IS, THIS IS LATE, OR THIS IS KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, UNTIL COUNCIL HAS REACHED A PLACE ARE MAYBE IT IS APPROPRIATE.
LET ME START ON THIS END AND THIS, AND THEN I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION AT THAT POINT.
I DO WANT TO GIVE EVERYONE A CHANCE.
SO COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, UM, MAYOR, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT AS IS WITH THE STIPULATION, IS THAT, UH, VICE MAYOR, PHIL, UM, UH, COMFORTABLE TO ADD.
AND BILL GOING FORWARD WITH A COUPLE OF STEPS WITH THE ELECTRICAL LEAD BALL TOP MOP AND WHAT THE STEPS THAT HAVE BEEN CURRENTLY DISCUSSED THE PARKING ONE I THINK IS NOT NEEDED.
SO I THINK JUST WITH THE TOP BUTTON IN MY MIND, I GET ONE MORE CLARIFICATION QUESTION.
AT LEAST FOR ME, AS YOU HAD, YOU HAD QUESTIONED THE, THE LIGHT.
AND AGAIN, TO ME, THIS IS A STAFF QUESTION THAT, THAT, CAUSE I DON'T THINK THE DEVELOPER NECESSARILY WANTED TO PUT A LIGHT ON THERE.
SO COULD I HAVE A STAFF PERSON ADDRESS THE LIGHT ON ARMSTRONG AND THE QUEEN PLEASE? BECAUSE I THINK THAT CAME FROM US.
IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND, AND YES, MAYOR THAT DID COME FROM, EXCUSE ME, THAT DID COME THROUGH STAFF RECOMMENDATION, NOT NECESSARILY JUST FOR THE SITE, BUT ALSO FOR AGAIN, MORE REGIONALLY, WE'RE LOOKING FOR CONNECTIONS ACROSS THE STREET, ON THE WEST SIDE OF MCQUEEN.
AND IN ORDER TO GET CIRCULATION TO THAT AREA, WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW TO GET TRAFFIC IN AND OUT.
AND THE ANSWER REALLY IS, OR THE OPTIONS THAT WE CAME UP WITH IS ARMSTRONG AND HAMILTON.
SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE TWO COLLECTORS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO TRY TO BUILD UP ON THAT WEST SIDE TO GET CIRCULATION IN THE AREA SOUTH OF TWO OH TWO BUT NORTH OF GERMANY.
AND IS IT TYPICAL THEN FOR THE FIRST, THE FIRST DEVELOPER OR WHO WOULD BE ON THERE AND THIS SIDE TO ASK FOR THE LIGHT THEN, AND THEN THERE MIGHT BE SOME, OR HOW IS, HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN TRADITIONALLY WITH US? CAUSE YOU'RE SAYING A FUTURE NEED, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A COST FACTOR OF WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT NOW, AS OPPOSED TO LATER.
I GUESS TWO THINGS ON THAT ONE, USUALLY EVERY QUARTER CORNER PAYS 25% IS TYPICALLY HOW WE ADDRESS THE SIGNAL.
SO THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE PAYING 50% BASICALLY FOR THE EAST SIDE OF THIS.
AGAIN IS TYPICALLY HOW WE DO IT.
AND AS FAR AS WHEN IT OCCURS AND BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION TO THE FREEWAY.
AND BECAUSE WE KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO EITHER GO EAST AND WEST ON THE FREEWAY, WE DO WANT TO MAKE, WE WOULDN'T ALLOW THIS TO GO IN AT THIS LOCATION AS A FULL MOVEMENT, WITHOUT SIGNALIZATION, IN ORDER TO ALLOW THOSE MOVEMENTS TO OCCUR SAFELY UNTIL WELL PEOPLE THAT ARE WANTING TO GO EAST AND WEST ON THE FREEWAY TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, MAKE THOSE SAFE MOVEMENTS OUT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE WOULD WANT IT TO GO IN WITH THIS SPECIFIC DEVICE OR WHOEVER WENT FIRST.
UM, LET ME KEEP GOING THIS WAY.
I ASSURED, UH, MR. RAY, THAT I WASN'T GONNA SAY MUCH TONIGHT, SO IT'S OKAY TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
THIS PIECE OF LAND IS COMPLEX BECAUSE IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN CORNERED AND ON SOME LEVEL THAT'S BECAUSE OF PLANNING AND UM, IF SENATE WAS THE MAIN OUT AND THERE WAS A TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE, THAT WOULD BE A LOT MORE APPEALING.
THAT WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER WAY NOW I KNOW HOW IT IS NOW, BUT, UH, AND YOU KNOW, AND I SAID TO YOU THAT NOBODY REALLY ANTICIPATED ALL THE HIGH DENSITY HOUSING THAT WE ARE GETTING.
AND, UH, AND THAT IS WHAT THE FUTURE OF CHANDLER IS HIGH DENSITY HOUSING.
SO DESPITE THAT, IT'S A REAL DISAPPOINTMENT.
UH, SO, UM, IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO ME ABOUT ARE RIGHT OUT ON MCQUEEN AND I, I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID, MAYOR, BUT IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO ME ABOUT IT RIGHT OUT, I KNOW WE JUST SPENT MILLIONS AT ALMA SCHOOL AND THE TWO OH TWO TRYING TO DEAL WITH ACCIDENTS AND VERY UPSET CITIZENS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND, UH, AND WHAT'S GOING ON, WHAT WAS GOING ON RIGHT THERE.
SO THIS TO ME LOOKS MORE OF THE SAME.
SO I ASSUME THAT IN THE FUTURE PLANNING COULD MAKE CHANGES AT THIS INTERSECTION ARMSTRONG, BUT, UH, I ASSUME THAT THE CITY WILL PROBABLY END UP PAYING FOR THAT TOO.
SO IT'S STILL A CONCERN FOR ME AS FAR AS THE ARMSTRONG INTERSECTIONS.
AND, UM, SO, AND SOME OF THIS OTHER STUFF SOUNDS FINE.
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ONE, I THINK WE'LL PUT IT MOST SATISFIED.THE TWO HAVE REALLY WORKED WELL AND GIVE US SOME GOOD SUBSTANCE ON WHAT TO MAKE A DECISION WITH.
AND I WILL SAY AT THAT POINT RIGHT NOW, AND I'M READY TO VOTE AND COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
I MOVED TO INTRODUCED ORDINANCE NUMBER FOUR 94, NINE FIVE EIGHT PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND PRELIMINARY PLAT P L H 19 DASH ZERO ZERO SIX THREE SLASH PLT, 19 DASH ZERO ZERO FIVE FIVE.
ALEXA, OUR ADMIN MCQUEEN WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATION THAT WE AGREED TO WITH, WITH THE DEVELOPER, WE WILL ADD, UM, ELECTRICAL WORK, WHICH STAFF TO ADD ELECTRICAL, UH, VEHICLE OUTLETS, UH, TWO OR FOUR DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU GUYS DECIDE TO DO, BUT NO LESS THAN TWO AND NO MORE THAN FOUR.
I THINK THAT GIVES YOU A GOOD RANGE.
YOU WILL PROVIDE A TOP PARK AND THEN YOU WILL PROVIDE A BETTER PAINT, COLOR DIVERSITY FOR THAT PROJECT.
THAT, ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, I, UH, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE HAPPY IF YOUR SPEAKERS DON'T SPEAK.
I THINK YOU GUYS WILL BE QUITE CONTENT, SO IT'LL BE OKAY.
ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL, PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION CARRIES MY MAJORITY COUNCIL MEMBER AROUND BUDDY DISSENTING.
UM, MATT DUNBAR, OUR BUDGET MANAGER IS GOING TO COME FORWARD TO KICK OFF THE FEE DISCUSSION.
I'M NOT TRYING TO BUILD A BUILDING FOR A LONG DISCUSSION.
UM, LUCKILY I'M TALKING ABOUT FEES, WHICH IS ANOTHER POPULAR TOPIC.
UM, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WHEN I START THINGS OUT, I LIKE TO ADD A LITTLE LEVITY TO IT AND I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A VERY GOOD WAY TO TALK ABOUT FEES AND HAVE A GOOD JOKE INVOLVED.
SO I DID THINK ABOUT THOUGH, WHEN I FIRST STARTED IN MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT, I STARTED AS A TAX AUDITOR, UH, WHICH IS PROBABLY THE LEAST LITE GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE OF ALL.
UM, AND IN FACT, MY OWN GRANDMA SENT ME A QUOTE AS A, A NEW TAX AUDITOR, UH, FROM MARK TWAIN THAT SAID, DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A TAX MAN AND A TAXIDERMIST TAXIDERMISTS WILL AT LEAST LEAVE THE SKIN? UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TAXES AND TALKING FEES, IT'S NOT EVERYONE'S FAVORITE TOPICS TO GO THROUGH.
UH, BUT LUCKILY TONIGHT I JUST HAVE TO KIND OF SET US UP AND THEN THE, SOME OF THE DIRECTORS AND ASSISTANT CHIEFS WILL, UH, WALK US THROUGH SOME OF THE PROPOSED FEES.
SO, UH, EACH YEAR THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE, WE DO A REVIEW OF THE SPECIFIC FEES THAT THE CITY OF CHANDLER CHARGES, UH, WE, WE TYPICALLY DO SOMETIMES A MID-YEAR FEE IF FEES ARE REQUIRED TO BE CHANGED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
AND THEN WE LOOK AT CHANGES TO BE EFFECTIVE FOR THE NEW FISCAL YEAR.
SO WE'VE DONE THAT AS WELL THIS YEAR.
UM, AND SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE FEES THAT WILL BE EFFECTIVE MARCH 1ST OF 2021, AND SOME HAVE FEES.
IT WILL BE EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST OF 2021 FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
UM, AN OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE FEE CHARACTERISTICS.
SO FEES ARE ASSESSED FOR USE OF FACILITIES OR SERVICES BENEFITING SPECIFIC GROUPS.
UH, TYPICALLY ONE OF THE MAJOR DIFFERENCES BETWEEN FEES AND TAXES, TAXES ARE ASSESSED FOR FACILITIES AND, UM, THINGS THAT ARE USED BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT DON'T HAVE A DIRECT BENEFIT.
THERE'S NO WAY TO DIRECTLY CHARGE THEM FOR THE USE OF, OF SPECIFIC ITEMS, FOR EXAMPLE, STREETS AND ROADS.
UH, IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO HAVE EVERY STREET AND ROAD THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF CHANDLER WITH A TOLL BOOTH, UH, TO COLLECT FEES FOR THOSE SPECIFICALLY USING THAT.
SO TAXES ARE THE BETTER REVENUE SOURCE FOR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
HOW FEES ARE FOR THOSE THINGS LIKE SPECIFIC FACILITY USE OR USE AS BENEFITING SPECIFIC GROUPS.
UH, SO WHEN THERE'S SOMETHING THAT ONLY BENEFITS A SPECIFIC GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS, TYPICALLY THERE'S A CHEAP, UH, FEE THAT'S CHARGED AND THE, THE MOST, UM, MOST OF THE FEES TRY TO RECOVER AS MUCH OF THE COST AS POSSIBLE.
SO A COST RECOVERY IS LOOKED AT HOWEVER, SOMETIMES THE MARKET DEMANDS LOWER RATES THAN THE ACTUAL COST RECOVERY.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, A PAGODA AT THE PARK THAT YOU WANTED TO RENT FOR A BIRTHDAY PARTY, UH, IF YOU LOOKED AT THE ACTUAL CAPITAL COST TO ADD THE TREES AND THE PLANTS AND THE ACTUAL FACILITY AND THE MAINTENANCE, YOU ADDED
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ALL THAT IN TO CHARGE THAT ONE HOUR RATE, YOUR RATE WOULD BE VERY, VERY HIGH.SO WE LOOK AT WHAT THE ACTUAL MARKET CONDITIONS CAN BE FOR THOSE FEES, AND WE HAVE TO ADJUST THOSE ANNUALLY.
SO THAT'S WHAT THIS PROCESS IS GOING THROUGH.
ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE TO HAVE AUTHORITY TO CHARGE FEES, UM, AND IT MUST EXIST IN THE CITY CODE.
AND SO WE DO HAVE, UH, THOSE CODE ADJUSTMENTS TONIGHT, UM, FOR YOUR REVIEW, OUR PROCESS, AS WE GO THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, WE KICKED OFF IN NOVEMBER, UM, WHERE WE TALKED WITH ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS TO UPDATE AND DISCUSS THEIR FEES WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
UM, AND TO IDENTIFY THOSE, THESE THAT TRULY NEEDED TO BE CHANGED.
UM, THOSE PROPOSED FEES WERE ANALYZED AND SUMMARIZED IN DECEMBER, AND THEN A LIST OF THOSE FEES AND CHANGES WERE POSTED ONLINE AND DECEMBER 23RD, UH, FOR PUBLIC REVIEW, UH, WE HAVE A 60 DAY NOTICE PROCESS THAT WE MUST FOLLOW, AND THOSE HAVE BEEN POSTED FOR MORE THAN 60 DAYS.
ADDITIONALLY, WE POST NOTICES IN ARIZONA REPUBLIC, UH, AS WELL AS SOCIAL MEDIA POSTINGS AND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE, RIGHT.
WE HAVE SIX DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE PROPOSING FEE UPDATES TONIGHT, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, AIRPORT DIVISION, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, PLANNING, DIVISION, CULTURAL DEVELOPMENT MUSEUM, DIVISION, COMMUNITY SERVICES, RECREATION, AND AQUATICS DIVISIONS, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESOURCES CODE ENFORCEMENT DIVISIONS.
AND WITH THAT, WE'LL BE KICKING OFF, UM, OUR PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT, CITY MANAGER, AIRPORT DIVISION, UH, CALL UP RYAN REIS FROM THE AIRPORT BUSINESS COORDINATOR TO GO OVER THEIR FEES AND CHARGES.
AGAIN, MY NAME'S RYAN REEVES ON THE AIRPORT BUSINESS COORDINATOR, AND I'M HERE TO DISCUSS A FEW OF OUR PROPOSED FEE AMENDMENTS, UH, THIS EVENING.
UH, WE WILL BEGIN, UM, SIMPLY BY STATING THAT IN OUR ANNUAL STAFF AUDIT, WE CHOSE TO FOCUS ON, UH, FIVE KEY POINTS FOR THE AIRPORTS FEES, AND THOSE WOULD BE CORRECTIONS, UM, WITHIN THE FEE SCHEDULE, OF COURSE, COST RECOVERY FIGURES, QUITE LARGE CONSISTENCY BETWEEN OUR FORMS, OUR PRACTICES, AND THE FEE SCHEDULE OUR COMPETITIVENESS IN BOTH THE LOCAL REGION, AS WELL AS THE STATE AIRPORT NETWORKS REGION AND FIGURING VERY LARGELY, PARTICULARLY FOR THE FIRST FEE SCHEDULE AMENDMENT IS MARKET, UM, FUTURE MARKET GROWTH.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL BEGIN ADDRESSING ITEM ONE, WHICH IS CHANGES TO THE FUEL FEE CALCULATION.
UM, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF CHANDLER SELLS AV GAS, A HUNDRED LOW LEAD, UM, AT A SELF-SERVE ISLAND, LOW TICKET LOCATED IN A COMMON RAMP AREA ON THE AIRPORT.
UM, AB GAS IS A HIGHLY VOLATILE MARKET, UM, PRICING AND AVID GAS IS EXTRAORDINARILY VOLATILE, UM, SUPPLY AND DEMAND, EBBS AND FLOWS IN UNCOMMON WAYS TO THE NORMAL AUTO GAS FUEL MARKET, OR EVEN THE JET FUEL MARKET.
THE CURRENT PRICING FORMULA IS ONE THAT STAFF CONSIDERS TO BE HEAVILY ENCUMBERED.
IN OTHER WORDS, EACH GALLON IS CARRYING.
WE BELIEVE EXCESS FISCAL, UH, WEIGHT, ESSENTIALLY.
UM, THIS KIND OF ENCUMBERED PRICING STRUCTURE WAS FIRST PUT INTO PLACE IN FISCAL YEAR OH FOUR, SINCE THAT DATE, UM, WE HAVE LOST 86% OF OUR FLOW AT THE SELF-SERVE ISLAND.
UM, THIS IS LARGELY BECAUSE THE CURRENT PRICING STRUCTURE FOCUSES ON PLACING EVERY POSSIBLE COST ON TOP OF FUEL THAT IT COULD CARRY DOWN TO STAFF TIME DOWN TO SUBSCRIPTIONS, TO PUBLIC INFORMATION SITES, ET CETERA.
UM, THIS IS NOT INDUSTRY STANDARD.
THE INDUSTRY STANDARD IS TO UTILIZE A COST PLUS SYSTEM.
WHAT STAFF HAS DONE IS MONITORED FUEL PRICING OVER A LENGTHY PERIOD OF TIME AND DETERMINED THAT THE IDEAL COST PLUS FORMULA FOR CHANDLER WOULD BE 80 CENTS.
AND THAT IS TO SAY WE WOULD NEVER LOWER THE COST MORE THAN OUR WHOLESALE COST OF THE FUEL WITH AN INCREASE OF 80% OF 80 CENTS PER GALLON.
THE REASON FOR 80 CENTS IS QUITE SIMPLE ACROSS THE PAST SEVERAL CALENDAR YEARS, THE MARKET CAN BE SO VOLATILE AND AV GAS.
WE CAN SEE 80 CENT PER GALLON MARKET SWINGS.
IT HAS BEEN KNOWN TO SWING THAT DRASTICALLY IN A WEEK'S TIME, UM, WITH SUCH A CHANGE WE'LL HAVE OBVIOUSLY AN INCREASE IN REVENUES WE BELIEVE WE CAN CURRENTLY GET FROM APPROXIMATELY 30,000
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GALLONS A YEAR.AS WE SIT NOW WITH THE CURRENT PRICING FORMULA TWO IN FIVE YEARS, OUR HOPE IS TO INCREASE THAT TO 100,000 GALLONS.
A MARK, WE USED TO, WE USED TO HAVE WITH REGULARITY.
UM, THIS IS A FORCE MULTIPLIER FOR NOT JUST THE CITY OF CHANDLER.
THIS IS A FORCE MULTIPLIER FOR OUR BUSINESS PARTNERS ON THE AIRPORT.
THIS DRIVES ACTIVITY AT OUR AIRPORT INTO OUR AIRPORT.
MORE ACTIVITY DRIVES MORE MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS, MORE AVIONICS REQUIREMENTS, MORE FOLKS EATING AT THE AIRPORT CAFE.
SO IT IS A FORCE MULTIPLIER, UH, MAYOR.
AND, UM, MR. REEVES, I APPRECIATE YOU EXPLAINING IT TO US AND I GET THAT, BUT HOW DOES THIS COMPARE TO THE, UH, PROVIDERS ON THE AIRPORT WITH THEIR FUEL? ARE WE COMPETITIVE? ARE WE PUTTING THEM, ARE THEY OKAY WITH THIS NEW FORMULA, UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO.
WE HAVE BEEN IN CLOSE COMMUNICATION WITH CHANDLER AIR SERVICE SPECIFICALLY AS THEY ALSO PROVIDE SELF-SERVE ABBOTT GAS, AS WELL AS FULL SERVICE HAVE GAS FROM THEIR TRUCK.
THEY ARE AWARE OF OUR INTENTIONS TONIGHT.
THEY'VE EXPRESSED, UM, NO CONCERNS TO ME DIRECTLY.
AND I HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH THEM MULTIPLE OCCASIONS.
DO WE STILL GET A PERCENTAGE OF THERE? THERE WAS A ONE-TIME WE GOT A PERCENTAGE OF THEIR FEES.
THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY, DROVE IT UP HIGHER.
BUT WITH THIS COST, PLUS WE STILL GETTING A PERCENTAGE OF YOUR FEES.
WE WILL STILL GET A FUEL FLOWAGE FEE PER GALLON FOR EVERY GALLON SOLD ON THE AIRPORT.
AND THAT IS FACTORED INTO OUR FORMULA AS WELL.
SO THEIR PRICING WILL BE COMPARATIVE TO OURS, THEN WE'RE STILL GETTING A SLIGHT FEE FROM THERE.
RIGHT NOW WE ARE NOT COMPETITIVE.
WHAT THE, UM, WHAT THE FORMULA CURRENTLY HAS US DO IS WE ADJUST TO THE COST PER GALLON AND WE WAIT FOR THE MARKET TO CORRECT TO US RATHER THAN HAVING THE ABILITY TO GO TO THE MARKET.
THE NEXT FEE THAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT IS, UM, STAFF TIME OUTSIDE OF NORMAL OPERATIONS.
UM, CURRENTLY WE HAVE A CITY POLICY THAT IF WE WERE TO CALL A STAFF MEMBER TO RESPOND OPERATIONALLY TO A DEMAND AT THE AIRPORT AFTER HOURS, OUTSIDE OF STANDARD STAFF TIME THAT WE PAY THAT STAFF MEMBER TWO HOURS MINIMUM.
HOWEVER, OUR FEE SCHEDULE ALLOWS US ONLY TO CHARGE FOR THE TIME SPENT ON SITE.
MANY OF OUR, UM, CALL-OUTS, IF YOU WILL, AFTER HOURS OR, YOU KNOW, VERY, VERY LATE AT NIGHT, FOR EXAMPLE, A BLOWN TIRE ON A RUNWAY AT ONE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, WE ARE BEHOLDEN AND OBLIGATED TO KEEP THAT AIRPORT AT 100% OPERATIONAL CAPACITY.
AT ALL TIMES, WE WOULD CHARGE THE, UH, THE MEMBER OF THE FLYING PUBLIC THAT NEEDED THAT SERVICE.
IF WE WERE ONLY THERE FOR A HALF HOUR, WE WOULD CHARGE THAT CREW A HALF HOURS TIME WHILE PAYING OUR STAFF A MINIMUM OF TWO HOURS.
THIS WE SUGGEST BEING IN TO OUR MEMBERS AND BEING PLACED IN THE FEE SCHEDULE FOR SIMPLY FOR COST RECOVERY AND RYAN, ALL OF THESE REALLY JUST BRING US CLOSE TO MARKET, RIGHT? I MEAN, RIGHT NOW WE ARE, SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT AT FURTHER, BUT THIS REALLY, ALL THE THINGS YOU'RE PRESENTING TO US AS I LOOK THROUGH THIS, THEY JUST BRING US INTO THE MARKET AND A COMPARISON WITH OUR NEIGHBORS.
IS THAT CORRECT? UH, MR. MAYOR, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT FROM THIS POINT FORWARD IS FINE TUNING IF YOU WILL.
AND EVEN WITH THESE INCREASES IN COST.
AND WE ALSO SUGGESTED BRINGING THE PER HOUR RATE UP DURING BOTH NORMAL OPERATING HOURS AND DURING CALL-OUT HOURS, THIS DOESN'T MAKE US REMOTELY THE MOST EXPENSIVE IN THE AREA.
WE ARE STILL EXTREMELY COMPETITIVE, BUT IT GETS US VERY, VERY CLOSE TO A FULL COST RECOVERY, CALVARY PRECEDE.
UM, THE NEXT ITEM IS HANGER LOCK AND ACCESS DEVICES.
UM, AT THE AIRPORT, WE HAVE 116 HANGERS THAT ARE CITY OWNED AND OPERATED.
UM, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH A PROCEDURE IN THE PAST YEAR TO STANDARDIZE THE LOCKING SYSTEM ON ALL OF THESE, UM, THESE HANGERS, AS WELL AS WE'VE UPGRADED AND STANDARDIZED OUR ELECTRONIC GATE ACCESS TO THE ENTIRE AIRFIELD.
WE HAVE A GATE ACCESS OR AN ACCESS DEVICE FEE FOR $35 FOR REPLACEMENT FEE, WHICH COVERS VERY ADEQUATELY THE ELECTRONIC GATE CARDS.
UM, IF YOU WILL, THERE, THIS IS ONE HERE AS AN EXAMPLE.
UM, HOWEVER, SHOULD WE HAVE TO REPLACE A LOCK BECAUSE OF DAMAGE? WHAT HAVE YOU, UH, THOSE LOCKS CAN RUN ANYWHERE BETWEEN 75 AND $100.
SO WE WOULD LIKE TO PLACE LANGUAGE IN THE FEE SCHEDULE STATING BED $35 OR FULL REPLACEMENT COSTS, WHATEVER IS HIGHER.
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IS HANGER DEPOSIT RETENTION FOR THE CLEANING FEE.UM, THIS WAS BROUGHT UP BY STAFF FOR A VERY SIMPLE REASON.
THERE IS A RAPIDLY CHANGING DEMOGRAPHIC IN AVIATION.
WE ARE KNOWN FOR HAVING A RATHER SENIOR PILOT POPULATION THAT IS CHANGING.
I AM HAPPY TO SAY WE HAVE MANY YOUNG PEOPLE GETTING INTO THE INDUSTRY ARE TENACIOUS AND HANGERS ARE CHANGING HANDS.
SO AS WE DO THIS, I'M SPEAKING AS A PILOT, AS AN AIRCRAFT OWNER, WE TEND TO ACCUMULATE A LOT OF THINGS OVER THE YEARS IN THE PAST, WE HAVE TAKEN THE HANGER DEPOSIT AND WE APPLIED IT TO THEIR FIRST MONTH'S RENT.
WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE VERY EXPRESSLY SPELLED OUT IN THE FEE SCHEDULE THAT WE RETAIN THAT FOR A CLEANING FEE.
SHOULD THE HANGER NOT BE LEFT IN SERVICEABLE CONDITION? UM, STAFF SOMETIMES HAVE TO SPEND APPRECIABLE TIME CLEANING HANGERS PRIOR TO OUR BEING ABLE TO RELEASE THEM AND LAST, BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST.
AND PERHAPS, UM, THIS IS A BIT IN THE WEEDS.
SO BEAR WITH ME, UH, LEASE LANGUAGE CHANGES.
THIS IS A RATHER, UM, SWEEPING, UM, SUGGESTION, BUT WE THINK IT'S FORWARD-LOOKING, UM, A LOT OF THIS WILL BE PIONEERING.
UM, AND, AND IN OUR OPINION, PRETTY VISIONARY AND WILL WORK OUT WELL FOR THE AIRPORT.
WE'RE WANTING TO AMEND SOME LEASE LANGUAGE.
UM, THIS IS FOCUSED ON OUR COMPETITIVENESS AND OUR FUTURE GROWTH.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON AS ACCOMMODATING CURRENT FUTURE MODERN FLEET CHANGES.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A GREAT DATION OF CHARGES BASED ON AIRCRAFT WEIGHT, WHICH IS INDUSTRY STANDARD.
UM, HOWEVER THAT INDUSTRY WEIGHT IS NOT SPECIFIED IN THE FEE SCHEDULE AS THE AIRCRAFT'S MAXIMUM TAKEOFF WEIGHT, WHICH IS EXTRAORDINARILY IMPORTANT TO THOSE FEE GRADATIONS.
UM, THE CURRENT FEE SCHEDULE WE HAVE IS PERFECTLY SUITABLE FOR THE AVIATION FLEET NATIONWIDE AND LOCALLY 15 TO 20 YEARS AGO.
HOWEVER, UM, WE HAVE COME A VERY, VERY LONG WAY AND AIRCRAFT THAT REQUIRE MORE ROOM AIRCRAFT THAT RE CREATE MORE PROP WASH AND JET BLAST ARE REMARKABLY LIGHTER NOW, AND WE ARE ADJUSTING THE LANGUAGE TO SUIT, UM, IN OUR FEED GRADATIONS, UM, THAT IS SOLELY TO CREATE A MORE FAIR AND EQUITABLE FEVER FEED GRADATION FOR ALL FOLKS THAT USE THE AIRPORT.
UM, WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ESTABLISH DAILY AND MONTHLY RATES FOR HANGER USES THIS.
WE BELIEVE WILL COME IN HANDY AS LEASES EXPIRE LONG-TERM LEASES EXPIRE ON THE AIRFIELD, AND WE HAVE TO GO OUT FOR AN RFP PUBLICLY THAT HANGAR RUNS THE RISK OF THEN OF SITTING IDLE FOR SOME TIME.
IF WE HAVE T HANGERS THAT WITH OUR WAIT LIST, WE'RE WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO OCCUPY.
THEY HAVE IN THE INTERIM FOLKS THAT COME IN THAT NEED A HANGER FOR AN EVENING FOR A WEEK.
THESE, THIS NEW LANGUAGE WOULD ALLOW THOSE REVENUE STREAMS TO REMAIN OPEN TO THE CITY, AS WELL AS HELPING THE FLYING PUBLIC AND DRIVING MORE BUSINESS TO OUR AIRPORT.
THAT FEE IN AND OF ITSELF IS QUITE UNIQUE, UM, IN THE STATE, BUT SOMETHING I CAN ASSURE YOU MULTIPLE OTHER AIRPORTS ARE ALSO CONSIDERING AS WE SPEAK, UM, AND ANOTHER, AND THE LAST BUT NOT LEAST ONE OF THE, UH, LEASE LANGUAGE CHANGES WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD IN IS OFFICE SPACE RIGHTS.
AS WE GO FORWARD, WE ARE GOING TO GET INCREASING AND WE'RE ALREADY SEEING IT INCREASING INTEREST IN BUSINESSES COMING IN TO DO THEIR STARTUPS AT CHANDLER AIRPORT, AVIATION BASED AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE, UM, CHARTER OUTFITS.
THEY WILL ALL NEED OFFICE SPACE AS FACILITIES BECOME AVAILABLE IN FUTURE.
IT WOULD BE WE BELIEVE FORWARD LOOKING TO HAVE THESE RATES SET UP AND READY SO THAT WE CAN TURN AND EXECUTE THOSE, UH, AIRPORT BUSINESS PERMITS QUICKLY.
YOU MAY HAVE COUNSEL ANY QUESTIONS.
THEY WANT TO POINT OUT A MAYOR AND COUNCIL AT THE BOTTOM OF EACH OF THESE SLIDES IS THE SUMMARY THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THIS, UM, ACTION ITEM.
UH, PAGE SEVEN OF THE SUMMARY IS WHERE YOU'LL FIND ADDITIONAL SUMMARY DETAILS OF THESE CHANGES AND THEN, UH, PAGES 14 AND 15 OF THE CITY-WIDE FEE SCHEDULE, WHICH IS ALSO ATTACHED TO WHERE YOU CAN GET THE DETAIL, THE RED LINE, ALL OF THE SPECIFICS IN EACH SLIDE THAT WE GO THROUGH, WE'LL HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
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SO NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT FIRE AND LIKE TO CALL UP ASSISTANT CHIEF SCOTT CHAPMAN.HE'S GOING TO WALK THROUGH THE FIRE, UM, PORTION OF WHERE, YEAH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'M SCOTT CHAPMAN, AND I'M ONE OF THE ASSISTANT CHIEFS AND MY PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITIES ARE TRAINING AND OUR EMS DIVISIONS.
SO THE STATEMENT OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS PRESENT A NEW FEE IN THE AMOUNT OF $6,000 AS IT RELATES TO OUR PARAMEDIC TRAINING PROGRAM.
SO EVERY OTHER YEAR, THE DEPARTMENT, UH, CONDUCTS A PARAMEDIC TRAINING PROGRAM FOR OUR EMPLOYEES TO CERTIFY THEM AS EMERGENCY PARAMEDICS.
AND OCCASIONALLY, UM, THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE GET, UH, OTHER MUNICIPAL FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN THE REGION, REACH OUT TO US WITH THE REQUEST TO PUT SOME OF THEIR EMPLOYEES INTO THOSE PROGRAMS. SO WHAT THIS FEE WOULD DO IS ALLOW US TO OFFSET THAT COST AND RECOUP THE COST OF ADMINISTERING THE PROGRAM FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
YOU MIGHT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, REMEMBER LOPEZ, HOW OFTEN DO YOU SEE SOME OF THOSE, UH, AGAIN, OUTSIDE REGION OR EVEN PARTNERS COMING IN THROUGH THE MAYOR? UH, COUNCILMAN LOPEZ.
SO THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THAT INSIDE THE REGION AND THE AUTOMATIC AID AGREEMENT IS A LIMITED AMOUNT OF PROGRAMS THAT ACTUALLY STAND UP.
SO A LOT OF TIMES THE OTHER MUNICIPAL DEPARTMENTS, WHEN THEY SEE THE OPPORTUNITY WILL ACTUALLY REACH OUT TO US AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, DO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE SPACE AND CAPACITY TO PUT OUR PEOPLE IN THERE? SO IT'S, I WOULD SAY IT'S PRETTY FREQUENT, BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE ONLY EVERY OTHER YEAR ON THE ACTUAL PROGRAM, SO THANK YOU, MR. KEMP.
HEY, OUR NEXT GROUP WILL BE THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND DEREK, CORN'S GOING TO PRESENT THAT FOR, THANK YOU.
MA'AM GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
LAST YEAR, THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED A HISTORIC PRESERVATION ORDINANCE TO THE FOUR PRESERVATION DISTRICT OPTIONS.
OUR REZONING PROCESS, THE CURRENT REZONING FEE IS $785 PLUS $40 PER ACRE, WHICH COULD BE OKAY FOR DEVELOPERS, BUT IT COULD ALSO BE A ON NEIGHBORHOODS AND SMALL BUSINESSES SEEKING DESIGNATION.
OUR GOAL IS TO HELP INCENSE AND ENCOURAGE THE CREATION OF PRESERVATION DISTRICTS WITH A FLAT FEE.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING A HUNDRED DOLLARS TO CREATE A HISTORIC PRESERVATION DISTRICT AND THEN $50 FOR EACH LANDOWNER, HOMEOWNER OR PROPERTY OWNER TO ANNEX INTO AN ESTABLISHED HISTORIC PRESERVATION DISTRICT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, WESTERN.
I THINK NO COMMENTS OR PERHAPS A STATEMENT OF THE HOUR AS WELL.
ALL RIGHT, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, NEXT IS CULTURAL DEVELOPMENT AND KIM MOYERS IS GOING TO PRESENT FOR THE MUSEUM DIVISION.
UH, THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR, THE CHANDLER MUSEUM FOUNDATION WAS FORMED, UM, UH, WITH CITY COUNCIL APPROVING ITS FIRST MEMBERS FOR THE FOUNDATION, INCLUDING FOUR MEMBERS FROM THE CHANDLER HISTORICAL SOCIETY.
THE FOUNDATION HAS REQUESTED THAT THE EARNED REVENUE FROM THE FACILITY RENTAL FEES AND THE GIFT SHOP BE RETAINED BY THE MUSEUM FOUNDATION USING THESE FUNDS TO ENSURE ITS MISSION TO RAISE MONEY FOR THE CHANDLER MUSEUM.
THESE FUNDS WILL BE USED TO MARKET THE MUSEUM, ADDITIONAL FUNDRAISING OPPORTUNITIES AND WORKING WITH THE MUSEUM TEAM TO BRING IN MORE ROBUST, UH, EXHIBITS.
SO THE PROPOSAL FOR YOU IS TO ELIMINATE THE FEES THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU, UH, INTO ADDRESS.
UM, OH, I, TO ADDRESS, UH, VICE MAYOR STUART'S CONCERN ON FUTURE FEE INCREASES, WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE FOUNDATION TO MODIFY THE MUSEUM MANAGEMENT PROCEDURES MOU TO INCLUDE, TO NOT INCREASE THE RENTAL FEES MORE THAN 5% EVERY TWO YEARS.
WHAT DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YES.
UM, HOW MANY, HOW MUCH, UH, HOW MUCH ACTIVITY WE'VE SEEN ON RENTING THE MUSEUM, UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, BECAUSE OF COVID WE'VE SEEN VERY FEW, RIGHT? SO BY THE TIME WHEN THE, WHEN THE FEES WERE PRESENTED TILL COVID, WE HAD LESS THAN A HANDFUL, UH, AND THEY WERE ALL A MONTHLY NONPROFIT, SO WE'VE HAD VERY FEW, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE WON'T CONTINUE TO TRY TO INCREASE THE RENTAL FEES IN THE FUTURE.
I JUST WANT, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S REALLY MINUSCULE AS FAR AS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AS FAR AS ANY COME.
SO WE WILL, YOU HAD MENTIONED A 5% INCREASE EVERY OTHER, AND IS THERE ANY, SO ALL THE, BASICALLY THE MONEY WILL BE DISPERSED
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AND THERE'S STILL CITY OVERSIGHT OF THAT EVEN WITH THE MUSEUM, UH, THE BOARD FOLLOWING THAT MAYOR.WE DO HAVE, UM, OVERSIGHT ON THE FOUNDATION.
UH, ALL THE FEES WILL DIRECTLY GO BACK INTO THE MUSEUM.
AND SO THE 5% IS, UH, COULD BE AN, UH, A 5% INCREASE EVERY TWO YEARS.
IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT A WELL, OKAY.
IT'S NOT THAT I HAVE ANY MISTRUST DISTRUST OF THE FOUNDATION, BUT I, I BELIEVE THAT EYES WATCHING DOLLARS ARE ALWAYS GOOD.
YEAH, KIM, I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS EARLIER, BUT THANK YOU.
AND THANK YOU TO THE FOUNDATION.
THE FOLKS THAT, THAT VOLUNTEER ON THAT, IT'S AMAZING.
AND TRUST ME, THE WHOLE 5% THING WAS NOT ABOUT WHO WE HAVE HERE TODAY.
ANYBODY SITTING ON THIS BOARD, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHO WILL BE THERE 20 YEARS FROM NOW.
SO MAKING SURE THAT'S IN THE MOU SO THAT THE PEOPLE THAT THE RESIDENTS HAD PAID THEIR TAXES FOR THE MUSEUM LONG AGO, AND THAT ARE RETIRED OR WHATEVER FIXED INCOME CAN STILL GO ENJOY THE MUSEUM.
NEXT, WE HAVE COMMUNITY SERVICES, RECREATION AND AQUATICS DIVISIONS AT ANDY.
THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR WILL PRESENT.
UH, FOR THIS YEAR, WE HAVE THREE AREAS THAT WE WOULD ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND CHANGING FEES.
THE FIRST ONE IS TO ADD A, WHAT WE'RE CALLING A MINI FIELD PREPARATION FEE THAT WE WOULD USE FOR OUR SOFTBALL AND BASEBALL FIELDS.
THESE WOULD PRE PRIMARILY USE BY TOURNAMENT USERS.
THESE WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE REQUESTED.
THE SERVICE HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY OUR CURRENT USERS.
SO THAT IS WHY WE INCLUDED IT.
THE SECOND CATEGORY OF FEES IS CHANGES TO OUR LIFEGUARD FEES FOR OUR SWIM TEAM RENTALS, AS WELL AS OUR GENERAL POOL RENTALS.
UM, WE'RE PROPOSING THAT THEY MOVE FROM $15 TO $20 AN HOUR, AND THIS IS SIMPLY TO RECOUP OUR COST OF STAFFING, THOSE EVENTS.
AND THEN THE FINAL SECTION THAT WE HAVE IS BASICALLY KIND OF A REORDER OF HOW WE'RE DOING OUR PUNCH PASSES AT OUR AQUATIC CENTERS.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGE TO OUR GENERAL ENTRY FEE.
THIS IS SIMPLY FOR OUR PUNCH PASS.
CURRENTLY WE HAVE FIVE 20 AND 30 PUNCH PASSES THAT WE OFFER AND WE'RE PROPOSING MOVING THOSE FROM 15 AND TO 30 PUNCHES.
ONLY THE REASON WE WOULD LIKE TO ELIMINATE THE FIVE PUNCH IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE GOAL OF A PUNCH PASSES FOR PEOPLE TO COME MULTIPLE TIMES AND TO GET A DISCOUNT FOR COMING MULTIPLE TIMES.
UM, AND WE'RE SEEING PEOPLE BUY THE FIVE PUNCH AND THEN USING IT IMMEDIATELY TO, UH, GET THEIR FAMILY THROUGH AND NOT USING IT FOR FUTURE VISITS.
SO THAT IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
UH, IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT ACTUALLY THE 30 PUNCH ADULT PASS IS ACTUALLY GOING DOWN FROM 40, UH, FROM, UH, 45 TO 45, $45 DOWN TO $33 AND 75 CENTS.
SO THERE'S ACTUALLY A DECREASE IN FEES FOR THAT ONE COUNCIL, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO.
SO WE STILL HAVE THE DOLLAR AND 75 CENTS FOR KIDS TO GO SWIMMING, RIGHT? YES.
WE HAVEN'T CHANGED THAT IN 20 YEARS.
IT'S GOOD PRESSURE ON IT'LL CHANGE ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT.
AND, UH, SO, UH, IT JUST GETS LOST.
I DO SWIM MORE THAN THAT BY THE WAY.
UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, NEXT UP, WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD RESOURCES, CODE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION, AND LEAH POWELL, NEIGHBORHOODS, RESOURCES DIRECTOR WILL PRESENT THEIR FEES.
THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AS YOU WILL RECALL, IN DECEMBER, WE BROUGHT FORWARD A CODE THAT'S REALLY STREAMLINED OUR CODE.
AND ALONG WITH THAT, WE'VE LOOKED AT STREAMLINING OUR FEES.
WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT IS ACTUALLY A DECREASE IN FEES.
THE FEES THAT WE'VE HAD IN PLACE HAVE BEEN INSPECTION FEES, AND THOSE HAVE BEEN BASED ON THE NUMBER OF INSPECTIONS AND THEN ADDITIONAL CHARGE.
WE ARE LOOKING AT GOING TO A PERCENTAGE FEE FOR AN ABATEMENT.
WE PROBABLY DO LESS THAN 12 ABATEMENTS A YEAR.
AND SO THIS WOULD BE JUST SEEMED MUCH MORE REASONABLE GO TO 25% OF THE CONTRACT FEE FOR AN ABATEMENT VERSUS RIGHT NOW WE PROBABLY AVERAGE ABOUT 41%.
WE ARE ADDING A DEMOLITION FEE BECAUSE IT DID NOT EXIST.
AND IT'S PROBABLY BEEN ABOUT FIVE YEARS SINCE WE'VE HAD A DEMOLITION.
IT'S VERY RARE THAT WE HAVE TO USE THAT.
BUT IF WE DO HAVE TO DO A DEMOLITION, WE WOULD PROPOSE DOING THE EXACT SAME STRUCTURE WITH THE 25%.
UM, AND THEN ON THE SECOND SIDE SLIDE, YOU SEE THAT WE ARE ELIMINATING THE SPECIFIC INSPECTION FEES AND RE-INSPECTION FEES.
I GOT ONE, ONE QUESTION I DO RECALL THAT, UM, I THINK AN ONGOING COUNCIL INITIATIVE FOR DEMOLITION WAS TO BE ABLE TO, UH, DEMOLISH SOME HOUSES THAT WERE PERHAPS, UH, POTENTIALLY
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DRUG HOUSES OR OTHER THINGS.IS THAT, IS THAT BEEN USED AT ALL? UH MIRACO WHEN I'M TALKING OR, OKAY.
YES, MAYOR HARKEY, THERE WAS A PERIOD OF TIME THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT USING CDBG FUNDS TO DO THAT.
AND, UM, IT BECAME A LITTLE COMPLICATED BECAUSE THE HOMEOWNER HAD TO ASSUME A PERCENTAGE OF THAT WE PUT A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY.
WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT PLAYED INTO THAT, THAT WAS DURING A TIME WHERE WE HAD MORE FORECLOSURES AND ON QUITE FRANKLY, WE, WE DID CLEAN UP SEVERAL STRUCTURES LIKE THAT.
SO WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD OF THE DEMAND OR NECESSARILY THE NEED TO USE THAT TYPE OF PROGRAM.
CERTAINLY IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AGAIN, LOOK AT IT IN THE FUTURE.
SHOULD WE EVER FIND OURSELVES BACK INTO THE SITUATION WITH ANY FORECLOSURES AND INSTRUCTORS TRULY BECOMING DILAPIDATED YOU WE'RE LOOKING FOR SAFETY ISSUES? CERTAINLY.
THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF THE, A FEW RECOMMENDATION FOR CHANGES.
I DO WANT TO POINT OUT, UH, AIRPORT AND FIRE FEE CHANGES WOULD BE EFFECTIVE AS MID-YEAR CHANGES.
SO IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, UM, HOWEVER, THE REST OF THEM WOULD BE EFFECTIVE JULY ONE AND THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, I DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD FOR THIS ITEM.
UM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND, UH, YOU WILL HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES, THE LIGHT TURNS GREEN AND YELLOW.
YOU'LL HAVE ABOUT 30 SECONDS LEFT MR. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO HAVE A MOMENT FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU.
I, UM, I LIVE AT TWO, THREE, 409 SOUTH 130 SECOND PLACE IN CHANDLER.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE ARIZONA AQUATIC CLUB.
SO ONE OF THE SWIM TEAMS, UH, WE'RE A, UH, COMPETITIVE YOUTH SWIM TEAM.
WE OPERATE AS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, BEEN RECOGNIZED HERE AND BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE PREVIOUS IS OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SO IN YOUR EYES SUPERVISE, UH, CAMPAIGN, AS WE, UH, REC WE VOLUNTEER THE KIDS, UH, TO HAND OUT THE FLYERS.
UM, I MANAGED THE ORGANIZATION AS A VOLUNTEER.
UM, AND, UH, I ONLY MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE WE RUN THE ORGANIZATION ON A VERY TIGHT BUDGET.
I'M ACTUALLY IN SUPPORT OF THE LIFEGUARD FEE STRUCTURE.
UM, MY REQUEST IS THAT THAT IS DELAYED BY ABOUT A SIX MONTH TIMEFRAME ONLY BECAUSE OF COVID, UM, OUR MEMBERSHIP AND MEMORY AND THE YOUTH, UH, SPORTS TEAMS LIKE MYSELF, ARE OPERATING AT A MUCH SMALLER CAPACITY THAN WE HAVE IN THE PAST.
WE'RE CURRENTLY OPERATING AT ABOUT 50% OR LESS THAN 50% OF OUR CAPACITY.
WE'VE TAKEN EXTRAORDINARY MEMBER, UH, MEASURES TO KEEP OUR MEMBERS SAFE AND TO ENSURE THAT THE PARENTS AND THE FAMILIES FEEL THAT IT IS SAFE TO OPERATE.
UM, BUT WE'RE STILL HAVE MANY FAMILIES THAT ARE CHOOSING TO BE ON THE SIDELINES AND WAIT UNTIL THEY THEY'VE DEEMED IT A SAFER TIME.
SO I DO SUPPORT THE FEE STRUCTURE.
I HAVE A GOOD, STRONG KNOWLEDGE OF OPERATING SWIMMING POOLS AND THE LIFEGUARD FEE STRUCTURE.
I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT AND SUPPORT THAT.
I'M JUST ASKING FOR A SLIGHT DELAY IN THAT SO THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH THIS PERIOD OF TIME AND RECOVER THE MEMBERSHIP BECAUSE I'M GOING TO PASS THAT FEE ONTO THE MEMBERSHIPS.
UM, SO JUST, THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I'M ASKING FOR THAT DELAY.
UM, CITY MANAGER, MARY JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU THAT IT'S NOT WORKING.
I AM, I GUESS MY, MY SPECIFIC REQUEST IS TO MOVE THAT FROM JULY 1ST TO JANUARY OF 20, 20, 20.
IT WOULD, THIS INCLUDE THE LIFEGUARDS OR WHAT ALL WOULD THIS INCLUDE YOUR SPECIFIC, THE SPECIFIC PROPOSAL IS LIFEGUARD FEE.
AND ANDY WHEN'S THE LAST TIME WE RAISED LIFEGUARDS, PLEASE.
MY GUESS FROM WHAT I REVIEWED WAS OH, EIGHT OH NINE.
IT WAS THE LAST TIME THAT WE HAD MADE ANY CHANGES TO THAT.
BUT SPECIFICALLY I'D HAVE TO REALLY LOOK AT THAT IN.
BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY CHANGES JUST DOING MY RESEARCH FOR THIS FOR, FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
SO IT'S BEEN AT LEAST POSSIBLY 12, 13 YEARS SINCE WE'VE HAD AN INCREASE.
SINCE WE BROUGHT ON THE SKI GROVES POOL, IT WAS THE LAST TIME THAT THERE HAS BEEN A FEE INCREASE.
I CAN, I CAN DOUBLE CHECK THAT.
UM, ANDY, UM, HOW IMPORTANT IS IT TO, I MEAN, IS THE POOL THIS BUSY DURING A SEASON WHERE WE LOSE A LOT OF MONEY, IF WE KEPT THIS FEED THROUGH JUST THE LIFEGUARD
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FEED ALONE THROUGH JANUARY 1ST OF 2022, I MEAN, WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE DETRIMENTAL TO YOUR BUDGET OR, OR I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR THAT.THROUGH THE MAYOR TO COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, UH, WE'VE BEEN USING THIS FEE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
UH, SO IF IT IS, IF YOUR DECISION IS TO MOVE THAT TO JANUARY, THEN WE'LL JUST CONTINUE FOR THIS, UH, SEASON, UH, AS WE HAVE BEEN.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF HOW WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT AND IF WE WAIT UNTIL JANUARY, THEN, UH, WE CAN IMPLEMENT IT NEXT YEAR, EITHER WAY, WHATEVER YOU DECIDE.
AND JUST TO CLICK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, UM, SINCE IT'S STILL THE SAME FISCAL YEAR, WE COULD ACTUALLY JUST MAKE, WE DO A STIPULATION.
HIS MOTION IS STILL IN THE SAME FISCAL YEAR.
WE CAN DO ALL THE OTHER FEE INCREASES AT THE APPROPRIATE DATES MARCH 1ST AND THEN JULY 1ST.
UM, AND THEN PUT, IF WE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION JANUARY 1ST, JUST FOR THE LIFEGUARD FEES INCREASES.
UM, IF I MAY MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO.
WE'RE JUST MAKING STEPS ALL NIGHT TONIGHT.
SO CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION BEFORE WE CONSIDER THE STEP IS, I MEAN, THERE MIGHT ALSO COUNCILMAN STEWARDESS JUST RAISED, UH, THERE MIGHT BE A WAY THAT WE CAN HELP THIS ORGANIZATION.
I I, EVERY YEAR I, I USE THE POOLS, WE DO A PARTY WITH A, A PATH GROUP AND, AND AGAIN, IT'S, SO IT'S GOING TO RAISE MINE A LITTLE BIT, WHICH I THINK I'M MORE THAN WILLING.
SO I THINK LIFEGUARDS ARE MORE THAN JUST IS PROGRAMMED.
THEY'RE USED FOR A LOT OF OTHER PURPOSES THAT I CERTAINLY DON'T MIND AND THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO, TO, UH, PASS THOSE ON.
SO IT'S, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO CARVE THAT OUT OR POTENTIALLY CUSTOMER STEWARD WONDERED, UH, PROVIDE SOME CARES DOLLARS THAT WOULD KIND OF MAKE YOU WHOLE FOR THE SEASONED AND, UH, ARE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT I, THERE IS ACTUALLY TWO FEES.
THERE IS A FEE SPECIFIC TO SWIM TEAMS AND THERE WAS A FEE SPECIFIC TO RENTALS.
BOTH OF THEM ARE THE SAME PRICE.
SO WE HAVE PROPOSED SOME OF, BOTH OF THEM TO 20.
SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DEFER, WE CAN MOVE THE RENTALS UP TO 20, AND THEN WE COULD KEEP SWIMMING TEAMS AT 15.
AND THAT WOULD BASICALLY DO WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING.
I THINK WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO USE CARES, ACT DOLLARS LIKE WE DO WITH OUR OTHER NON-FOR-PROFITS OR MAYBE ASK ASCEND TO SUPPORT THEIR NON-FOR-PROFIT WITH CARES ACT DOLLARS TO COVER THE COST OF THIS RIGHT NOW? WOULD THAT NOT WORK? OKAY.
WELL, BUT WE CAN STILL PUSH THE CARES ACT DOLLARS AT LEAST TO GET THEM TO JANUARY.
LET ME ASK CITY MANAGER CITY ATTORNEY.
MAYOR VICE MAYOR, THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A DEAL BREAKER FROM THE, FROM THE, UH, UM, AQUATIC STANDPOINT, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JUST DELAY THAT UNTIL JANUARY.
I DON'T REALLY SEE A BIG ISSUE WITH THAT.
MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, THERE MAY NOT BE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS I'VE TAKEN THE TIME TO COME HERE.
CAN WE JUST CONSIDER, UM, ANY, ANY RATE INCREASES THAT WE'RE SEEKING TO INCREASE? CAN WE JUST PUSH IT OFF TO JANUARY? AT LEAST WE'LL KNOW THAT THE PANDEMIC WILL BE, WE'LL KIND OF BE CLEAR FROM IT AND WE'RE NOT ADDING ADDITIONAL HARDSHIP TO ANY ORGANIZATION THAT COULD BE IMPACTED BY ANY OF THE INCREASES AND JUST PUSH IT TO DANG WARY, AND JUST, JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST SAY IT STARTS IN JANUARY, WE'LL BE PAST THE PANDEMIC.
WE WON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES IN TERMS OF DOLLARS AND PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THOSE NICE DRESSES.
I WOULD STRUGGLE WITH A BROAD SWEEPING MOVE LIKE THAT BECAUSE JUST, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE LOOK AT IF THERE'S SPECIFICS LIKE THIS THAT'S IMPACTED, BUT FOR EXAMPLE, THE GAS FEES AT THE AIRPORT OR OTHERS, I, I DON'T SEE THE COROLLARY QUITE HONESTLY.
AND I I'D BE WILLING TO SUPPORT PUSHING THIS SPECIFIC ONE BACK SIX MONTHS.
AND IF WE FIND OTHER ISSUES THAT WE CAN FIND A WAYS TO MAKE WHOLE, I WOULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.
SO WOULD THAT BE SATISFACTORY, SIR? THAT'S FINE WITH ME.
OOH, HE'S LOOKING LIKE THERE'S NO NEXT MARIN COUNCIL THAT CONCLUDES THE, UH, OUR PRESENTATION.
IS THERE A MOTION MAYOR ME LET'S GIVE COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS A CHANCE TO MAKE A MOTION.
UH, LET ME GIVE YOU AN EASY ONE.
YOU ASKED THE LAST QUESTION FOR HARRIS, THE APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER FIVE, AMENDING THE CITY-WIDE FEE SCHEDULE, UH, STIPULATING THAT THE LIFEGUARD FEE DOES NOT MOVE DOES NOT CHANGE UNTIL JANUARY OF 2020 FOR SWIM TEAMS, SWIM TEAMS, LIFEGUARD FOR SWIM TEAMS DOES NOT CHANGE UNTIL JANUARY OF 2022.
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OH, ALL RIGHT.ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL, PLEASE VOTE.
WE'RE GETTING THERE NEXT ON OUR AGENDA.
[12. Unscheduled Public Appearances]
WE HAVE SOME UNSCHEDULED, PUBLIC APPEARANCES AND PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN WAITING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME.I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS TO MAKE BEFOREHAND.
UM, WITH OUR, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SPEAKER CARDS THAT ARE AN UNSCHEDULED PUBLIC APPEARANCE TO ADDRESS THE OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING THAT OCCURRED ON JANUARY 2ND.
THIS CASE REMAINS AN ACTIVE INVESTIGATION, BOTH INTERNALLY AND IN THE MIRROR, COPA COUNTY'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO BE TRANSPARENT AND TO INFORM OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS OF THE INCIDENT.
UH, CHANDLER POLICE ON JANUARY 15TH RELEASED ALL OF THE OFFICER'S BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE FROM THE MOMENT THE CAMERA WAS ACTIVATED IN THE PATROL CAR UNTIL THE SHOOTING OCCURRED AS HAS BEEN OUR PRACTICE IN CHANDLER FOR 20 YEARS, THIS INCIDENT WILL BE REVIEWED BY THE CITIZEN PANEL ON USE OF FORTH.
ONCE THE INVESTIGATION IS COMPLETE AND COUNSEL, SINCE THIS IS AN UNSCHEDULED PUBLIC APPEARANCE, WE CAN LISTEN TO THEIR CONCERNS AND DIRECT STAFF TO FOLLOW UP THAT CAN NOT ENGAGE, ASK QUESTIONS WITH THE SPEAKERS IN DIALOGUE.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE GROUND RULES OF, UH, BECAUSE OF OPEN MEETING LAW OF, UM, OF UNSCHEDULED APPEARANCES.
SO I HAVE A NUMBER OF CARDS, THE SAME RULES THAT APPLIED WHAT YOU SAW TO THAT ONE INDIVIDUAL.
I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO COME UP, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
YOU'LL HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES IF I WOULD PREFER, IF YOU'VE JUST GOT THE SAME THING TO SAY, THEN JUST SAY, I AGREE WITH THAT.
UM, BUT I, I WILL GIVE YOU YOUR TIME, BUT I THINK YOUR PRESENTATION WILL BE MORE POWERFUL IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING UNIQUE TO ADD THAT YOU WANT TO SAY TO US RATHER THAN SAY THE SAME THING.
SO I HAVE NO PARTICULAR ORDER.
I'M JUST LOOKING THE WAY THAT THESE WERE PROBABLY THE FIRST ONE, AND THEN THE REST KIND OF CAME IN, UM, PHIL MARTINEZ AND PHIL, AS YOU HEARD ME SAFE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE THE GREEN, YELLOW, AND RED LIGHT.
AND I RATHER NOT CUT YOU OFF WHEN YOU'RE RED.
SO PLEASE WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS DURING THE YELLOW, SIR.
I'M HERE REPRESENTING, UM, ON BEHALF OF THE CAUDAL VALLEY, RENEE AND EVAN.
UH, MY NAME IS PHIL MARTINEZ AND I LIVE IN TEMPE, ARIZONA.
UM, I'M AN ACTIVIST AGAINST POLICE VIOLENCE AND I AM HERE IN SUPPORT OF CONNELL FAMILY AND THE CHANGE, OUR AMERICA FOUNDATION, THE CONNELL FAMILY SUFFERED A TRAGEDY LIKE YOU STATED ON JANUARY 2ND, 2021, 17 YEAR OLD, ANTHONY CONNOR WAS SHOT TWICE IN THE BACK BY AN OFFICER WHO HAS YET TO BE NAMED.
UM, AND THIS WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE FAMILY AND FRIENDS ARE GATHERED HERE TONIGHT.
THERE ARE LEGAL RECOURSES, UM, THAT THE FAMILY MUST TAKE AND NAMING THE OFFICER, UM, IS ONE OF THEM THAT IS IMPORTANT TO THEM.
SO WE'RE ASKING YOU MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR TO PETITION THE CHIEF OF POLICE TO RELEASE THE FULL BODY CAM FOOTAGE AND THE NAME OF THE OFFICER AND THE INTERVIEWS FOR THE LAW TEAM, UM, OF THE OFFICER, UH, SO THAT THEY CAN, UH, PROACTIVELY SEEK LEGAL RECOURSE UP UNTIL NOW.
AND INDICATING THE CHIEF OF POLICE ACTIONS INDICATE THAT HE'S IN LINE WITH WHAT WE SEE IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE NATION, WHERE THEY STALL SPECIFICALLY TO HINDER THE VICTIM'S RIGHTS TO PROSECUTE, UM, TO SECRET OUR RESTITUTION.
UM, THIS IS OUR ONLY RECOURSE TO, UM, TO SANCTION A POLICE OFFICER IS THROUGH FINANCIAL RESTITUTION.
SO WE'RE ASKING YOU FOR THAT TONIGHT.
I KNOW YOU SAID YOU CAN'T SPEAK WITH US, BUT YOU CAN INSTRUCT YOUR CHIEF OF POLICE TO RELEASE THE BODY CAM AND THE NAME SO THAT THE LAWYER CAN TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION FOR THE FAMILY.
YOU ARE ABOUT TRANSPARENCY STATE, CORRECT, SIR.
I SAID, I CANNOT ENGAGE YOU, SIR.
I ASKED YOU TO INSTRUCT YOU TO RELEASE THE BODY CAM FOOTAGE.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY, SIR, ARE YOU REFUSING TO RELEASE THE BODY CAM FOOTAGE AND THE NAME OF THE POLICE OFFICER THAT THIS FAMILY IS ENTITLED TO? THEY HAVE LONG STANDING, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT TIES TO THE COMMUNITY.
ARE YOU REFUSING TO ANSWER THAT? LET'S SAY THAT THIS IS AN UNDER A SCHEDULED PUBLIC APPEARANCE, RIGHT? AND THEN YOU ARE ALLOWED TO GIVE GUIDANCE AND CRASH IT.
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HIM TO RELEASE THE BODY CAM FOOTAGE THAT HAS POLICY LIKE OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS.ARE YOU? SO YOU'RE HOLDING US TO A TIME WHERE YOU'LL TALK TO MILLIONAIRES ALL DAY LONG.
WHEN IT COMES TO A 17 YEAR OLD WHO GOT SHOT IN THE BACK, WE HAVE NO RECOURSE TO TAKE.
ARE YOU LEAVING US BOTH? THE ONLY ACTION IS TO PROTEST YOUR CITY.
MAYOR, ARE YOU GOING TO INSTRUCT YOUR CHIEF OF POLICE TO RELEASE THE NAME OF THE OFFICER WHO SHOT A 72 YEAR OLD A BACKSLIDE? YEAH.
WE WILL LAUNCH A CAMPAIGN AGAINST YOU AND ANY MIRROR AND ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T STAND UP FOR THEM THAT HAS YOU, MR. MARTINEZ, CAN ANY OF YOU GUYS STAND UP AND DEMAND THAT THIS FAMILY GET THE MANKIND? MR. MARTIN, I AM NOT LEAVING UNTIL THIS PERSON GETS THE NAME SO THAT THEY CAN SOON, LEGALLY, THAT IS YOU ARE HAPPY.
THE POLICE VICTIMIZE FAMILY EVEN MORE.
ARE YOU PART OF THE BLUE LIVES MATTER PLAN? ARE YOU PART OF THE GANG OF THE POLICE OFFICERS THAT ARE TERRORIZING THE COMMUNITY OF PHOENIX? ARE YOU ALSO PART OF THAT PLAN TO YOUR PARENTING? DO I NEED TO EXERCISE THE STEWARD TO, UM, OH, CHEAP.
DON'T MOVE THAT QUICK, RIGHT? CHEAP.
SO NAME THE OFFICER THAT SHOT A KID IN THE BACK A 17 YEAR OLD GOT SHOT FROM HER PENIS.
I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO STEP DOWN A 17 YEAR OLD, GOT SHOT TWICE, AND YOU'RE REFUSING TO ANYTHING THERE.
MR. KEVIN, I HOPE THAT YOU GET VOTED OUT YOUR NEXT TERM BECAUSE YOU ARE A COWARD.
THAT'S THE PERSON, UM, RENEE CONNELL, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOME WORDS, SIR, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS ON A MINT FROM MESA, ARIZONA.
UM, SO THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, LET ME A SECOND HERE.
AS I STATED, YOU GUYS KNOW JANUARY 2ND, MY COUSIN ANTHONY KANO WAS CHASED BY A POLICE OFFICER FOR THE REASON SHE WAS NOT GIVEN UNTIL HOURS AFTER THE FACT WHEN THEY WERE AT THE HOSPITAL WITH HIS MOM, I AS TO WHY HE WAS SHOT IN THE BACK FOR THE REASON OF NOT HAVING LIGHTS ON HIS BIKE.
AND THAT'S WHY ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE OUT HERE IS CAUSE HE WAS ON HIS BIKE, RIDING DOWN THE STREETS.
AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, THIS POLICE WANTED TO STOP SOMEONE TO, TO PULL HIM OVER.
SO ORIGINAL STATEMENTS MADE BY THE OFFICERS AT THE HOSPITAL NIGHT INDICATED THEY SHOT THE WRONG PERSON AS THERE WAS AN INCIDENT EARLIER IN THE DAY WHERE THE SUSPECT RESEMBLED MY LITTLE COUSIN, ANTHONY, UH, THAT'S PROBABLY THE INFO THAT YOU GUYS HAVEN'T HEARD BECAUSE THAT WAS ONLY GIVEN TO RENEE, UH, THE NIGHT OF BY ONE OR TWO OFFICERS.
UM, MY COUSIN CHOSE NOT TO STOP PROBABLY BECAUSE HE WAS NOT IN A GOOD POSITION.
HE WAS GENUINELY SCARED FOR HIS LIFE.
UM, HE WAS RUNNING AWAY, DROPPED THE, DROPPED HIS WEAPON.
SOMEBODY ELSE WAS TRYING TO KILL HIM AS A KID.
HE'S 17 HAS, HAS A WEAPON ON HIM FOR WHATEVER REASON WHO KNOWS.
IF HE WAS TRYING TO TAKE HIS OWN LIFE, POLICE ARE GIVEN OPPORTUNITIES, SO MUCH POWER TO DO THINGS.
AND THAT BRINGS ME INTO MY NEXT, UH, MY NEXT QUESTION ABOUT THE CITY OF CHANDLER LAW, ENFORCEMENT'S INTEGRITY.
POLICE ARE GIVEN SUCH EXTREME AMOUNT OF POWER THAT VARIES FROM DIRECTING TRAFFIC, UM, TO POTENTIALLY KILLING AND KILLING, CONTINUE TO KILL.
IF THEY PLEASE, UH, THEY'RE ALSO GRANTED WITH ANOTHER EXTREME OPPORTUNITY, THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE A LIFE.
A MENTOR OF MINE FROM CHILDHOOD, I GREW UP WITH BECAME, UH, HE GREW UP TO BECOME A POLICE OFFICER HIMSELF.
AND ONE THING THAT STICKS WITH ME THAT HE TAUGHT ME IS THE MEANING OF A HERO IS WHAT YOU DO WHEN NOBODY'S LOOKING, UM, REAL INTEGRITY.
WE ALL KNOW HOW ABSURD AND REAL POLICE BRUTALITY IS BECOMING WHETHER THE DEPARTMENTS USE THE SWEEPER DOINGS UNDER THE RUG OR NOT IS ON THEM.
BUT IF NO ACTION IS TAKEN IMMEDIATELY, CHANDLER WILL CONTINUE TO BE KNOWN AS THE CITY WHERE A POLICE OFFICER MIGHT KILL YOUR CHILD FOR NOT HAVING LIGHTS ON YOUR BIKE.
COUNCIL MEMBERS PLEASE MAKE THE RIGHT ONE.
THE DEPARTMENT IMPROVES TRAINING IN THE HOW TO HANDLE CIVILIANS WITH WEAPONS.
WE DEMAND, THEY RELEASED THE POLICE OFFICER'S NAME, THE FULL LENGTH UNEDITED BODY, BODY CAMS, AS WELL AS THE ONES OF THE OFFICERS THAT WERE ON THE SCENE THAT NIGHT.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE ONES JUST FROM WHEN SHE STARTED THE PURSUIT.
I WANT TO KNOW AFTER WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AFTER, WHEN HE REALIZED THAT THIS WAS A KID IN THIS WASN'T THE GUY FROM EARLIER.
UM, NONE OF THAT HAS BEEN SAID,
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NONE OF THAT HAS EVEN KNOWN THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT TO THE LIGHT.UM, PETE, THIS OFFICER NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS SOUL ROTTING ACTIONS.
I WANT TO END MY COMMENTS WITH A QUOTE FROM MARTIN LUTHER KING AND THE SILENCE OF GOOD PEOPLE WAS MORE DANGEROUS THAN BRUTALITY OF GOOD OF BAD PEOPLE.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER CARD IS FROM, UH, NYSSA.
IS SHE HERE? AND AGAIN, I'M MARINA ALLEN.
UM, GIVE US AN ADDRESS FROM HER, UM, UH, MCKINNEY, TEXAS, UH, 17, 17 ANGEL PARKWAY.
UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME HERE BY THE WAY.
AND TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN.
UM, WHAT HAPPENED SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED? UH, I'M SURE MOST OF US, UH, HERE GREW UP WORRY-FREE AS A KID, FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT SHOES WILL I WEAR TO SCHOOL? WILL EVERYONE SEE THIS PIMPLE ON MY FACE? I AM ALSO SURE.
EVERYONE HERE HAS A FAMILY AND WOULD DO ANYTHING TO PROTECT THEIR FAMILY.
WHAT IF YOUR WORRY AS A KID WAS PROTECTING YOURSELF, HOW DO YOU DEFEND YOURSELF? HOW DO I MAKE SURE I MAKE IT HOME BACK TO MOM? BECAUSE MY NEIGHBORHOOD ISN'T SAFE.
ANTHONY'S FULL NAME WAS PRESENTED TO THE WORLD FOR THEM TO GO AND LOOK AT HIM AND MAKE PREJUDGMENTS.
WHY HASN'T THE COP IN NAME OR PRESENTED? WHY CAN'T WE GO LOOK UP HIS BACKGROUND AND PASS.
HE WAS ABLE TO GO AND DELETE EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING THAT COULD HAVE QUOTE UNQUOTE, MAKE HIM LOOK LIKE A BAD PERSON.
LEGALLY COPS TOOK PICTURES WITH HIM.
HIS GUN ACTUALLY KILLED SOMEBODY.
HOW IS HE STILL ALIVE? HOW, WHY IS IT TRAINING? IS IT THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN? HOW DID THEY KNOW HOW TO HANDLE A SITUATION WITH THE 17 YEAR OLD? WE ARE DEMANDING ANSWERS AND THE OFFICER'S NAME, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD NO PROBLEM RELEASING IN MINOR'S NAME, BUT HAD A PROBLEM RELEASING THE OFFICER WHO SHOT A KID IN THE BACK TWICE.
AND YOU'LL SEE IF YOU GUYS WATCHED THE VIDEO, THERE WAS NO THREAT TO THE OFFICER PERIOD, OTHER THAN MY LITTLE COUSIN RUNNING FOR HIS LIFE, TRYING TO RUN HOME TO HIS MOTHER.
AGAIN, HE'S A MINOR, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A CHILD.
I DON'T THINK THIS SOUNDS RIGHT FOR A LIVING.
I HANDLE RECONCILIATIONS ALL DAY.
I DEAL WITH TONS AND TONS OF PROBLEMS AND SOLVING PROBLEMS. AND I CAN'T SOLVE THIS ONE.
WE CAN'T FULLY GRIEVE AND ACTUALLY HAVE COMFORT OR CLOSURE.
LIKE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT LOSING A PENCIL OR LOSING A PIECE OF PAPER.
WE LOST A MAIN SOURCE FOR OUR FAMILY, A CHILD, WHICH I'M SURE ALL OF YOU HAVE.
AND WE ARE BEING TREATED LIKE WE DON'T MATTER.
AND I'M NOT GOING TO ALLOW HIM TO BE ANOTHER STATISTIC BECAUSE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HE'S IN.
BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE TO IT'S OKAY.
BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE TO FACE YOU GUYS ALL AT THE END OF ANYONE'S LIVES.
YOU GUYS HAVE TO ANSWER TO WHO'S ABOVE.
SO I CAN ONLY LET THAT LAY THAT WAY, BUT NO, WE AREN'T GOING ANYWHERE.
AND WE ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT NO MATTER WHAT IT TAKES AND THAT I'M SEEING THAT PEACEFULLY.
I'M NOT TRYING TO COME TO ANYBODY'S HOUSE OR BE A THREAT OR DO WHAT WAS DONE TO US, BUT KNOW THAT WE ARE A STRONG FAMILY AND WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR ANSWERS.
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MY LAST CARD IS FROM SYLVIA MORALES, SILVER AT, DID YOU WANT TO COME AND ADDRESS? OKAY.I LIVE IN MESA, ARIZONA, 1654 WEST SIX DRIVE.
I AM ANTHONY'S GRANDMOTHER AND WE'RE HERE ALL FOR THE SAME REASON.
WE, FOR OUR OWN PEACE OF MIND, FOR HIS MOTHER'S PEACE OF MIND FOR MINE, I WAS GLAD TO HAVE ANTHONY FOR 17 YEARS OF HIS LIFE.
HE WAS ATHLETIC, NOT A TROUBLEMAKER.
HE JUST, THAT WAS A, HE WAS IN THE WRONG PLACE IN THE WRONG TIME.
WE WANT THE NAME OF THE OFFICER.
UH, WE WANT THE BODY CAMS OF I'M SURE THERE WAS 10 OFFICERS OR MORE AND THEY ALL HAVE IT ON FOOTAGE.
I'M SURE WE WANT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.
ANTHONY CAME FROM A LONG LIVE LONG LINE OF POLICE OFFICERS.
HIS GRANDFATHER'S A 26 YEAR VETERAN SCOTTSDALE POLICE DEPARTMENT, TWO UNCLES THAT WERE POLICEMEN, AN UNCLE THAT WAS A JUDGE OR GRANDMOTHER.
HE'S GOT ANOTHER RELATIVE THAT WORKS FOR THE DOC.
I'VE SEEN INJUSTICE, BUT THIS HERE, ISN'T AN INJUSTICE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING OUTSIDE.
AND WE WANT CLOSURE AND WE WANT TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.
WE WANT TO DO IT THE LAWFUL WAY, THE HONEST WAY, NOT DISHONESTY.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE HERE FOR.
THAT'S NOT WHY YOU WERE ALL ELECTED FOR BEING DISHONEST.
WE'RE COUNTING ON YOU TO HELP US TO GET THE NAME OF THE OFFICER AND THE FOOTAGE AND WHAT HAPPENED.
WHAT REALLY HAPPENED TO MY GRANDSON, ANTHONY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THAT CONCLUDES THE UNSCHEDULED PUBLIC APPEARANCES.
OUR NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA HAS TO DO WITH CURRENT EVENTS.
AND I THINK OUR FOCUS TONIGHT IS THE RETIREMENT RECOGNITION OF OUR CITY MANAGER, MARCIA RAID.
SO COUNCIL, I THINK EACH OF US HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE AND, UM, I WILL START.
NO, THEY CAN FOR FUTURE MEETING, THEY CAN, WE DID HAVE ONE.
I DO HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER CARD FROM, UH, ROXANNE SANDOVALL IS ROXANNE HERE OR DID SHE LEAVE? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
ROXANNE AGAIN, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU KNOW THE PROCEDURE.
MY ADDRESS IS SEVEN OH TWO EAST TREMOR BOULEVARD.
AND, UM, I'M HERE ALSO FOR THE CANTO FAMILY.
UM, MY SON WAS AND BEST FRIEND AND I JUST, UM, I'M HERE TO REQUEST FOR YOU GUYS TO SHOW SOME TRANSPARENCY.
IT'S BEEN OVER 60 DAYS AND THIS POOR LADY CANNOT GO HOME AND JUST SCRAPE HER CHILD.
THEY'RE STILL TRYING TO GET ANSWERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY READILY AVAILABLE.
JUST PEOPLE ARE REFUSING TO GIVE THEM INTO ME.
WE ALL NEED JUST TO DO THINGS THAT ALLOW US TO SLEEP AT NIGHT.
HE'S A 17 YEAR OLD CHILD THAT GOT SHOT IN THE BACK.
THOSE ARE FACTUAL BASIS, UM, SHOT IN THE BACK TWICE TO BE EXACT, WHICH IS
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JUST EXTREME AND APPALLED TO ME.IF IT WAS MY 17 YEAR OLD CHILD, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW I WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO EVEN SIT HERE TO BE HONEST.
HOWEVER, WITH THAT ALL BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, WE SIT HERE AND WE TRY AND HOLD THESE KIDS ACCOUNTABLE AND, AND TELL THEM HOW TO ACT AND REACT.
AND US OURSELVES AS A COMMUNITY ARE NOT HOLDING THE CHANDLER POLICE DEPARTMENT ACCOUNTABLE TO BE TRANSPARENT, TO RELEASE THE INFORMATION.
SO HOW CAN WE AS A COMMUNITY BUILD AND RE UH, I'M SO SORRY.
THIS IS JUST SO CRAZY THAT THAT'S HAPPENED TO A CHILD AND THE WAY IT DID.
AND I JUST WENT TO SEE THE MOTHER HAVE CLOSURE AND BE ABLE TO MOVE ON IN OR A CHILD.
AND YOU KNOW, THE TRUTH IS, IS IF SOMEBODY DOES SOMETHING WRONG, ALL WE CAN DO AT THIS POINT IS ACCEPT ACCOUNTABILITY AND MOVE ON.
SO SHE CAN MOURN AND BASICALLY MOVE ON FROM THE ACTIONS.
I'M SURE THIS OFFICER DID NOT GO OUT IN THE DAY AND SAY, HEY, I'M GOING TO GO IN AND DO THIS OR HAVE THIS HAPPEN.
IT'S AN ACCIDENT, ACCIDENTS HAPPEN.
AND WE ALL CAN LIVE WITH THAT.
IT'S JUST THE FACT THAT WE NEED THEM TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED.
I'M SURE THE OFFICER DIDN'T MEAN TO DO IT, BUT IT HAPPENED.
AND HE NEEDS TO JUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT.
I REST WITH 45 SECONDS LEFT, HAVE A BLESSED NIGHT.
AND I HOPE YOU GUYS ALL CAN MAKE SOME CHOICES THAT ALLOWED HER TO AT LEAST SLEEP AT NIGHT.
AND IF YOU GUYS CAN TOO, BECAUSE GOD IS GOOD AND I HAVE FAITH THAT YOU GUYS ARE ALL GOOD PEOPLE IN THE OFFICER PROBABLY IS TOO.
WE JUST HAVE TO MOVE ON FROM THAT.
AND WE CAN'T, UNLESS THERE'S SOME CLOSURE AND SOME INFORMATION PROVIDED TO HER.
COUNSEL, OBVIOUSLY THIS ISN'T EASY AND THERE IS A PROCESS AND A PROCEDURE THAT WILL BRING, UH, ACCOUNTABILITY AND INVESTIGATION.
AND, UH, WE WILL CONTINUE TO ALLOW THE PROCESS TO CONTINUE BOTH INTERNALLY AS WELL AS COUNTY-WIDE SO, OKAY.
[ Current Events 1. Mayor's Announcements a. Retirement Recognition of City Manager, Marsha Reed 2. Council's Announcements 3. City Manager's Announcements]
YOU WANT TO COME DOWN BELOW PLEASE? AND, UM, I WILL START AND, UH, LET'S START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO AND WORKING WITH THAT, THAT'S FINE.WE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU A KEY TO OUR CITY BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T DO THESE OFTEN.
I THINK THIS IS THE SECOND ONE THAT I'VE HAD OPPORTUNITY TO ISSUE.
AND, UM, WE ARE GREATLY APPRECIATIVE OF YOUR LEADERSHIP OF WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO CONTINUE TO HELP THE CITY OF CHANDLER AND THE WAYS THAT YOU HAVE, UH, REALLY BUILT TEEN CHANDLER.
AND FOR ME, I DECIDED TO NOT GET YOU SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD SPECIFICALLY SAY, WHAT AM I GOING TO DO WITH THIS? SO, UH, I HOPE THAT YOU AND BRAD WILL FIND A, HAVE A NICE DINNER AT HIS NEW FAVORITE PLACE, THE LOCAL.
WE'RE GOING TO WORK BACK THIS WAY.
UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE IN PARTICULAR SERVING CHANDLER.
UM, I LEARNED A LONG TIME AGO THAT UM, WORKING IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR WILL NEVER MAKE YOU RICH OR WEALTHY.
UM, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK BACK, YOU'LL REALIZE THAT IT WAS AN ENRICHING AND A WEALTHY, A REWARD OF AN EXPERIENCE.
AND, UM, WITH THAT, UH, FOR GETTING BACK TO OUR SOCIETY.
SO WITH THAT, UH, GOOD LUCK ON YOUR RETIREMENT AND IN YOUR FUTURE AND FROM NOW ON EVERY DAY WILL BE A SATURDAY.
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MARCIA.THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS.
YOU MADE ME A PROMISE THAT YOU GOING TO STICK AROUND FOR A LITTLE BIT.
I KNOW I TOLD EVERYBODY, I SAID, THAT'S THE FIRST THING I'M GOING TO SAY, BECAUSE YOU MADE ME A PROMISE, BUT YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO SAY NO, YOU DIDN'T PROMISE ME THAT.
WELL, I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE FOR US THREE.
AND I'VE WATCHED YOU, I'VE BEEN AROUND THE CITY AS YOU KNOW, FOR 34 YEARS.
AND THOSE YEARS THAT YOU HAVE BEEN AT THE REIGN OF OUR CITY, WE HAVE SEEN SUCH GREAT GROWTH AND THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN OUR CITY.
THAT IF IT WAS NOT FOR YOU OR YOUR LEADERSHIP, MAYBE WE COULD NOT HAVE SEEN, BUT I REALLY TRULY WANT TO THANK YOU TONIGHT FOR EVERYTHING YOU SERVE WITH YOUR HEART, YOU SERVE WITH YOUR MIND AND EVERYTHING.
AND I ALSO WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE YOUR HUSBAND, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IT WAS A SACRIFICE AS IN PART TO ALLOW YOU TO ALSO BE PART OF THIS FAMILY HERE.
AND I KNOW YOUR STAFF WILL REALLY BE MISSING YOU SPECIFICALLY MYSELF AND, UH, BUT I'LL BE GOING BACK TO THAT OVER THERE IN YOUR OFFICE AND SEE WHAT I CAN TAKE SO THAT I CAN REMEMBER YOU, MY GIFT IS UPSTAIRS IN YOUR, IN YOUR OFFICE.
THERE'S NOT MUCH LEFT BY THE WAY.
MAYOR CITY MANAGER, MARCIA REEF.
I DON'T KNOW HOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO HEAR THIS.
SO I WANT TO SAY IT AGAIN, MAN.
UM, I ACTUALLY THINK THAT, UH, BEING A CITY MANAGER IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPOSSIBLE JOBS THAT ANYBODY COULD HAVE EVER DREAMED UP.
AND, UH, AND IT TAKES A UNIQUE INDIVIDUAL TO SAY, I COULD DO THAT.
AND, UH, AND YOU HAVE DONE IT.
AND, UM, WHEN I SAID EARLIER TONIGHT THAT, UH, I FEEL BLESSED TO HAVE BEEN HERE.
UH, AND THEN PART OF THIS COUNCIL, UH, WITH YOU AS OUR, AS OUR CITY LEADER, UH, DURING SOME INCREDIBLE, INCREDIBLE, UH, NEW GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT IN THE DOWNTOWN AND UP AND DOWN THE PRICE CORRIDOR AND ONE BUSINESS AFTER ANOTHER JOBS HOMES.
AND, UM, UH, I JUST, YOU'RE DOING A GREAT DEBT OF THANKS.
AND, UH, WE'RE GOING TO MISS YOU.
AND, UH, AND IT IS A GREAT LIFE.
THE ONLY PROBLEM IS YOU WILL NEVER KNOW WHEN YOU WERE AT WORK AND WHEN YOU'RE AT HOME, BECAUSE IT IS, THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING TO DO.
SO, UH, BUT BEST WISHES TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND GOD BLESS YOU.
I GOTTA TELL YOU, UM, I'VE ONLY KNOWN ONE OTHER PERSON WITH A MIND LIKE YOURS.
REMEMBER EVERYTHING ELSE, EVERYTHING THAT'S EVER HAPPENED SINCE IN THIS CITY.
AND THAT'S MY WIFE, YOU ARE REMARKABLE AT THE THINGS YOU CAN REMEMBER.
AND I WOULD SIT ACROSS FROM YOU AND ASK YOU QUESTIONS ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED SIX MONTHS AGO, AND YOU CAN ROUTE OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD.
YOU KNOW, CHANDLER IS A COMMUNITY OF WONDERFUL PEOPLE.
AND, UM, OVER THE FOUR YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, THAT COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE, YOU'VE CREATED A CULTURE HERE THAT EVERYBODY, THIS COMMUNITY INTERNAL COMMUNITY AND THE CITY CARES ABOUT THE COMMUNITY OUTSIDE THE BUILDING.
AND I HAVE TO GIVE YOU CREDIT FOR THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS SAY YOU'RE THE CEO, YOU'RE THE CEO OF THE CITY, RIGHT? YOU'RE THE CDO CEO, UH, THE BEST CITY IN ARIZONA, THE CEO OF, UM, UH, THE COMMUNITY OF INNOVATION, BUT IT REALLY CAME DOWN TO THE CULTURE OF EVERYBODY IN HERE TONIGHT.
AND AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE PEOPLE, THE 1500 OR 1700 PEOPLE, I DON'T HOW MANY IT IS TODAY THAT WORKED FOR THE CITY THAT CULTURE SHOWS THROUGH IN EVERYTHING THEY DO.
AND THAT'S WHY PEOPLE LOVE TO LIVE HERE.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY AND BEST OF LUCK AND ENJOY THOSE ROAD TRIPS BACK TO NEW MEXICO AND EVERYWHERE ELSE YOU'RE GOING TO BE GOING.
FIRST OFF WHEN I SAY AGAIN, MAYOR EVERYONE ELSE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE CITY.
UM, AND THANK YOU TO YOUR, YOUR HUSBAND AND YOUR DAUGHTER AND YOUR FAMILY, ALL YOUR SIN AND FAMILY THAT, THAT LENT US TO YOU FOR, FOR A FEW YEARS.
UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER ROWE SAID IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THANKLESS, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE JOB.
YOU GOT SEVEN BOSSES YOU GOT TO ANSWER TO, AND, AND MANY OTHER DIRECTORS
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AND PEERS THAT, UH, UH, YOU HAVE TO BALANCE WITH OUTSIDE COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND YOU DID A GREAT JOB AT IT.SO, UM, ONE OF THE, THANK YOU FOR THAT, UH, THE GIFT I GAVE, YOU YOU'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO DO WITH, SO GIVE ME A CALL BEFORE YOU LEAVE AND WE CAN SHARE A STORY TO OVER IT.
UM, SO I, I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT, THAT YOU IMPLEMENTED OUR VISION FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON FIVE YEARS SINCE YOU'VE BEEN THE CITY MANAGER AND THE, UH, UH, TEMPORARY CITY MANAGER BEFORE THAT FOR ALMOST A YEAR, WHILE WE WERE TRYING TO FIND YOU AS A REPLACEMENT.
AND, UH, LIKE I SAID, YOU, YOU, YOU GOT US THROUGH A MASSIVE CRISIS.
UH, YOU'RE ON TOWARDS THE END OF THE 2009 DOWNTURN, BUT, UM, YOU GOT US THROUGH THIS UNPRECEDENTED.
I HATE USING THAT WORD, BUT THERE'S, COVID CRAP IS WHAT I PREFER TO TELL IT TODAY INSTEAD.
UM, AND YOU SHOW PERSEVERANCE RESILIENCE AND LEADERSHIP, AND THAT IS A HARD BULLY TO YOUR POINT.
SO THANK YOU FOR, FOR BEING WITH US FOR AS MANY YEARS AS YOU HAVE.
UM, I GOT ASKED ONE TIME, WHAT'S THE WORST THING THAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE CITY THAT KEEPS US UP AT NIGHT.
AND I SAID, WELL, IT ALREADY HAPPENED.
OUR CITY MANAGER SAID SHE'S GOING TO BE RETIRED SO NOW, UH, BUT BEST OF LUCK, UM, I WISH THE BEST FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND ENJOY, THANK YOU, MARCIA, MARCIA, MARCIA.
I KNOW EVERYONE WAS THINKING THAT I'VE GOT TO SAY IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU.
UH, I THINK WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS PROCESS, UH, BACK IN AUGUST, WHEN WE WERE THE, LIKE THAT THING, I WAS PROBABLY A PAIN IN YOUR THUMB.
I'M LIKE, I'M READY TO GET STARTED.
SHE LIKE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE PROCESS.
LET'S DO THIS NOW, BUT I JUST APPRECIATE YOUR RESILIENCE.
I APPRECIATE YOU BEING ABLE TO, UM, CONNECT WITH ME IN A WAY THAT YOU KNEW I WAS EXCITED ABOUT THE ROLE YOU KNEW.
I HAD PASSION, YOU KNOW, I WANTED THE TIME TO JUST JUMP IN AND GET GOING, BUT YOU REALLY DID A GOOD JOB OF JUST KIND OF HELPING ME AND GUIDING ME THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AND AS I LEARNED MORE, I BECAME A BETTER PERSON IN THAT TRANSITION STAGE.
THAT'S WHAT A GOOD LEADER DOES EVERY DAY.
THEY UNDERSTAND THEIR TEAM, THEY UNDERSTAND THEIR STRENGTH, THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT.
THEY UNDERSTAND HOW TO MANEUVER WITH THEIR STRENGTHS.
AND I THINK THAT EVEN THOUGH IT HAS BEEN A SHORT TIME, EIGHT MONTHS OF GETTING TO KNOW YOU, I REALLY FEEL THAT, UM, BEING CONNECTED TO YOU AND JUST BEING AROUND YOU, IT REALLY HAS HELPED ME GROW AS A COUNCIL PERSON.
AND I'M SURE YOUR TEAM WILL SAY THE SAME ABOUT YOU, THAT THEY'VE GROWN BEING AROUND YOU, AND THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO, UM, SEE THEMSELVES FURTHER.
AND I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I REALLY RESPECT YOU WITH ALL MY HEART.
AND, UM, SEEING YOU GO IS REALLY SAD.
UM, FOR ME, UM, I WAS HOPING TO GIVE YOU MORE PAINFUL DAYS WITH ME.
UM, BUT I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THAT A LEADER RECOGNIZES THE LEADER AND I SEE YOU.
I RECOGNIZE YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO CHANDLER.
AND I, AND I DID GIVE YOU A GIFT AND HOPEFULLY YOU CAN FIGURE IT OUT RECENTLY.
I'M IN MY OFFICE IF I CAN THERE CITY MANAGER.
SO MY HUSBAND, BRAD IS HERE ALL HAVE TO SAY HE WORKED FOR CITY GOVERNMENT FOR 21 YEARS.
SO NOT HIS FIRST COUNCIL MEETING.
I KNOW FOR SURE THIS IS NOT THE LONGEST COUNCIL MEETING.
HE SAT THROUGH IT, BUT DARN NEAR IT.
AND I WARNED IN MY HEAD, THERE WE GO.
UM, AS ALL OF YOU KNOW, I HATE SPEECHES.
SO, UM, MATT OVERRODE, YOU AND STACY, I BELIEVE HAS A VIDEO.
I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND MY THANK YOU TO THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING ME TO SERVE AS CITY MANAGER OF THIS WONDERFUL CITY FOR THE PAST, NEARLY SIX YEARS.
DELUCA'S THE FORMER CITY MANAGER FOR OFFERING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO CHANDLER AS HIS ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER IN 2013, IT HAS BEEN A GREAT LEARNING EXPERIENCE.
AND I HAVE APPRECIATED THE SUPPORT, BOTH OF THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL AND THAT OF THE TEAM CHANDLER STAFF.
I WANT TO TAKE JUST A SECOND TO RECOGNIZE THE CHANDLER
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STAFF AND THE EXECUTIVE TEAM.AS I LOOK AROUND THE TABLE, I HAVE EITHER HEARD EACH OF YOU OR HAD A HAND IN HIRING EVERY ONE OF YOU, BUT ONE, YOU ARE A GREAT TEAM.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO HEAR GREAT THINGS ABOUT THE BEST RUN CITY IN THE COUNTRY.
I WANT ALL THE EMPLOYEES TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE VALUED AND I COMMEND YOU ALL ON THE PUBLIC SERVICE YOU DELIVER EVERY DAY.
I CERTAINLY WANT TO TAKE A SECOND TO RECOGNIZE THOSE THAT I DON'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT THEIR SUPPORT.
AND THAT IS HUSBAND BRAD, AND MY DAUGHTER MCKINSEY.
WE HAVE CERTAINLY HAD THE ADVENTURE WE WERE LOOKING FOR HERE IN CHANDLER, AND I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPERIENCE SO MUCH IN THIS GREAT STATE.
I JUST WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE LIGHT NUTS AND THE SOMETIMES NOT ALL NIGHTS IN MY CAREER.
OUR NEXT CHAPTER IS ALREADY BEING WRITTEN AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT IS TO COME AGAIN.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO, AND MY VERY BEST WISHES TO YOU ALL AND TO THE TEEN CHANDLER STAFF.
THANK YOU AGAIN AND GOOD LUCK.