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GOOD[ Call to Order]
EVENING, AND WELCOME TO OUR REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF APRIL 18TH, 2024.UH, TONIGHT WE WERE GONNA SEE GOVERNMENT IN ACTION.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE SPEAKING, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, SOME PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE HAPPY AND SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE LESS HAPPY,
BUT I, I, WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOU.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO DELIBERATING, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER.
SO, WITH THAT CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE MAYOR HARKEY.
COUNCIL MEMBER ENCINA PRESENT.
COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO PRESENT.
OUR INDICATION WILL BE LED BY REVEREND SARAH OGLESBY DUNNIGAN FROM VALLEY UNITARIAN UNIVERSALIST.
AND OUR PLEDGE, UH, LED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, GOD OF MANY NAMES, SPIRIT OF LIFE AND LOVE, AND ALL THAT GATHERS WITH US TODAY.
BE WITH THESE LEADERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS TODAY.
HELP THEM TO LISTEN MORE DEEPLY, ASK MORE QUESTIONS, AND HOLD THIS COMMUNITY IN ITS NEEDS IN THE CENTER OF THEIR DECISIONS.
HELP THEM TO CONSIDER FAR INTO THE FUTURE AND TO LEARN FROM THE PAST.
HELP THEM TO LEARN AND GROW AS LEADERS AND AS HUMANS.
SHAPING THIS COMMUNITY FOR OTHER HUMANS.
BLESS THIS COMMUNITY WITH COMPASSION, INTEGRITY, AND TRUE LEADERSHIP.
FOR ALL OF THIS, WE PRAY AND GIVE THANKS FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AND LOVE.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, STUDENT, THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD IN INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[ Consent Agenda Items listed on the Consent Agenda may be enacted by one motion and one vote. If a discussion is required by members of the governing body, the item will be removed from the Consent Agenda for discussion and determination will be made if the item will be considered separately. Proposed Motion: Move to approve the Consent Agenda of the April 18, 2024, Regular Meeting, Items 1 - 24.]
MONDAY, WE, UH, LOOKED AT 24 ITEMS ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA, HAD OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW, AND STAFF HAD ALSO, UH, MADE A POINT OF, UH, REVIEWING THEM WITH US IN ADVANCE.DOES ANY COUNCIL MEMBER WANT TO MOVE ANY CONSENT ITEM TO ACTION FOR DISCUSSION AND SEPARATE VOTE? WE, I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE ONE ALREADY.
I'M ASKING ANYTHING ON THE CONSENT.
IF NOT, UH, A MOTION WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART, MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA OF APRIL 18TH, 2024.
REGULAR MEETING ITEMS ONE THROUGH 24.
MAYOR, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
UM, COUNSEL, ANY RECUSALS OR REASONS TO NOT VOTE ON ANY OF THESE? SEEING NOT, LET'S VOTE.
NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER 25.
AND HERE'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS TONIGHT.
UH, I WILL INVITE STAFF TO COME UP AND GIVE A BRIEFING.
UH, COUNSEL WILL ENGAGE AND ASK QUESTIONS AND, UH, PICK THE BRAINS OF OUR FINE STAFF.
UH, WE'LL THEN INVITE THE, UH, THE ZONING ATTORNEY OR PRESENTERS FOR QT TO COME UP.
AFTER THAT, I, I HAVE A STACK OF, OF COMMENT CARDS AND WE WILL INVITE EACH PERSON TO COME UP.
YOU HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES AND, UH, PLEASE DON'T MAKE OR REMIND YOU THAT, UH, YOUR THREE MINUTES ARE OVER.
SO IF YOU COULD RESPECT, UH, THE, THE DAYS THERE, THE GRIT LIGHT WILL BE GREEN FOR TWO MINUTES AND 30 SECONDS.
IT WILL TURN YELLOW AND THAT IT'LL TURN RED.
SO IF YOU CAN WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS DURING THE YELLOW PORTION, WE ALSO HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT HAVE JUST, UH, BEEN, UH, BROUGHT IN AS COMMENT CARDS.
AND THESE WILL BE PART OF THE RECORD AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET IN THE RECORD.
BUT, UH, THEY'RE PRETTY SIMILAR AND ALMOST IDENTICAL TO ALL OF THE COMMENTS THAT PEOPLE WANNA TALK ABOUT.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO READ THEM SEPARATELY.
[25. Introduction and Tentative Adoption of Ordinance No. 5084, Rezoning & Preliminary Development Plan, PLH23-0044 QuikTrip Convenience Store and Gas Station, located at 2000 W. Ray Road, generally located at the northwest corner of Dobson and Ray Roads (continued from the meeting of March 21, 2024) Rezoning Move City Council introduce and tentatively adopt Ordinance No. 5084 approving PLH23-0044 QuikTrip Convenience Store and Gas Station, amending the Planned Area Development (PAD) zoning for commercial uses to permit a fuel service station, subject to the conditions as recommended by Planning and Zoning Commission. Preliminary Development Plan Move City Council approve Preliminary Development Plan PLH23-0044 QuikTrip Convenience Store and Gas Station for site layout and building architecture on approximately 2.5 acres, subject to the conditions as recommended by Planning and Zoning Commission. Council Focus Area(s):]
ALRIGHT.UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS BEN ES, I'M A CITY PLANNER HERE WITH THE CITY OF CHANDLER PLANNING DIVISION.
FEEL LIKE I'M HAVING THE, SO, ALRIGHT, THIS IS A PRESENTATION.
UM, CAN YOU GUYS SEE THAT, BY THE WAY? I APOLOGIZE.
THIS IS A PRESENTATION ON PLH 23 DASH
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0 0 4 4 QUICKTRIP CONVENIENCE STORE AND GAS STATION.UH, THIS IS A PROJECT SITE LOCATION.
IT IS ON THE NORTH POST, ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF RAILROAD AND DOBSON ROAD.
THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE PED ZONING FOR COMMERCIAL USES TO PERMIT A FUEL SERVICE STATION WITH CONVENIENCE STORE.
ONE THING I WANT TO CLARIFY IS THAT, UH, BY RIGHT, YOU'RE ABLE TO DO A CONVENIENCE STORE IN SEE IN COMMERCIAL ZONE PROPERTIES.
THE REASON WHY THIS IS COMING BEFORE YOU IS BECAUSE THE FUEL COMPONENT THAT DOES REQUIRE A REZONING TO ALLOW FOR THE, FOR THE FUEL COMPONENT OF THE PROPOSED BUSINESS.
AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR SITE LAYOUT AND BUILDING ARCHITECTURE FOR A FUEL STATION WITH CONVENIENCE STORE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART, REAL QUICK, WHY, WHY IS THE REZONING REQUIRED FOR FUEL? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S AN ORDINANCE THAT WAS PUT INTO PLACE BY PREVIOUS COUNCILS? CORRECT.
SO IT IS REQUIRED EITHER, UM, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH A USE PERMIT PROCESS TO GO AND GET THE FUEL SERVICE STATION, OR YOU CAN REZONE THE PROPERTY.
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROPOSAL.
UH, THE SUBJECT SITE IS ABOUT 2.51 NET ACRES.
THE PROPOSED CONVENIENCE STORE WOULD BE ABOUT 5,312 SQUARE FEET, AND THE PROPOSED FUEL CANOPY WOULD BE ABOUT 7,287 SQUARE FEET.
UH, THEY'RE REQUESTING A TOTAL OF EIGHT FUEL PUMPS.
UM, THE CODE REQUIRES A TOTAL OF 30 PARKING SPACES AND THEY ARE REQUESTING, UH, 50, UH, JUST THE ELEVATION FOUR FOR, UM, CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR TO SEE.
THIS WOULD BE THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE PROPOSED QUICK TRIP.
ALL RIGHT, SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH, THE APPLICANT MAILED OUT THE NOTICE TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 600 FEET, UH, AND TO HOAS AND REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WAS HELD ON OCTOBER 3RD, UH, 2023 WITH 25 NEIGHBORS IN ATTENDANCE.
MEETING SIGNS WERE POSTED ON THE SITE AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA VIA NEXTDOOR.
AS OF WRITING THIS MEMO, STAFF IS AWARE OF SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.
ALL RIGHT, SO THIS CASE DID COME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, UH, LAST MONTH IN MARCH.
UH, THE APPLICANT DID REQUEST TO CONTINUE THE CASE TO APRIL, SO THAT WAY THEY HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO HOST ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
A SECOND NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WAS HELD ON APRIL 3RD WITH 20 INDIVIDUALS IN ATTENDANCE.
THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE CITY STAFF OR THE APPLICANTS, UM, OR THEIR TEAM.
UM, A MEETING SIGN WAS HOSTED ON SITE AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA VIA NEXT DOOR.
UH, THE APPLICANT MAILED OUT NOTICES TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 600 FEET AND TO HOAS AND REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN A QUARTER MILE.
UH, SOME CONCERNS FROM THE, FROM THE SECOND NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WERE THE SAME, UH, THAT WERE BROUGHT UP DURING THE FIRST MEETING, WHICH WERE TRAFFIC, UH, SAFETY, CRIME AND POTENTIAL TRANSIENTS.
NOW, IN CONCLUSION, THERE ARE SEVEN INDIVIDUALS WHO SPOKE IN OPPOSITION AND TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO SPOKE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
SO, UH, I'M SURE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR HAVE SEEN THERE HAVE BEEN QUITE A FEW EMAILS AND LETTERS SENT TO, TO THE CITY.
SO, UM, WE, THE CONCERNS WERE POTENTIAL TRANSIENTS INCREASE IN CRIME AND TRAFFIC.
SO IN OPPOSITION, WE HAVE 39 CONFIRMED CHANDLER HOMES, TWO BUSINESSES, EIGHT WITH NO ADDRESS OR THEY'RE LOCATED FROM THE COUNTY.
UH, IN TOTAL 49 TOTAL EMAILS AND LETTERS WERE PROVIDED TO STAFF.
UM, IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST IN SUPPORT, WE HAVE 16 CONFIRMED CHANDLER HOMES, 14 BUSINESSES, UH, 10 WITH NO ADDRESS OR THEY'RE LOCATED WITHIN THE COUNTY.
AND 65, OH, SORRY, AND 65 TOTAL EMAILS AND LETTERS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
ALL RIGHT, SO WE DID RECEIVE A FEW PETITIONS FOR THE REQUEST.
UM, WE DID RECEIVE THREE PETITIONS, UH, PROVIDED, UH, OPPOSING THE REQUEST.
THE FIRST ONE WAS AN ONLINE PETITION THROUGH CHANGE.ORG.
UH, 44 STATED CHANNEL HOMES WERE IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST, UH, 52 NON CHANDLER HOMES AND ONE NO CITY, UH, ADDRESS WITH NO, UM, CITY NO ADDRESS WAS PROVIDED AND 97 TOTAL SIGNATURES IN OPPOSITION.
THROUGH THAT PETITION, WE ALSO DID RECEIVE A WRITTEN PETITION IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST WITH 214 CONFIRMED CHANDLER HOMES IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.
70 NON CHANDLER HOMES 109 NO ADDRESSES PROVIDED FOR A TOTAL OF 401 TOTAL SIGNATURES FOR THAT PETITION
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IN OPPOSITION.AND THEN LASTLY, WE DID RECEIVE A PETITION IN OPPOSITION, UH, ON APRIL 17TH WITH 33 C CHANNELLER HOMES IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.
UH, IN TOTAL WE HAVE 291 TOTAL CHANNELLER HOMES OPPOSED TO THE REQUEST.
AND, UM, LATE LAST EVENING AND EARLY THIS MORNING, UH, WE DID RECEIVE ONE PETITION PROVIDED, UH, SUPPORTING THE REQUEST.
IT WAS A WRITTEN PETITION WITH 483 CONFIRMED CHANDLER HOMES IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
920 NON CHANDLER HOMES, UH, IN SUPPORT 443 NO ADDRESSES PROVIDED.
UM, AND SO THERE WAS A TOTAL OF 2,257 SIGNATURES ON THIS PETITION.
UH, CITY STAFF DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME TO GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE ONE, SO THERE ARE STILL 811, UH, NOT FINISHED CONFIRMING IF THAT PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE CITY OR COUNTY, WHEREVER IT MAY BE.
UH, IN CONCLUSION, 483 CONFIRMED CHANNEL HOMES ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
ALL MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, I DON'T WANT TO DICE THIS TOO MUCH, BUT IN ALL FAIRNESS, DO WE, WERE WE ABLE TO DICE OUT WHO IS THE MOST IMPACTED, WHO SUPPORT AND OPPOSED TO IT AS OPPOSED TO SOMEONE JUST LIVING IN CHANDLER THAT LIKES QTS? YEAH.
UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, FOR THIS ONE, IF THE QUESTION IS, UH, WITH REGARDS TO THE PROXIMITY, UH, TO THE PROPERTY, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH.
YEAH, FOR THAT ONE, WE DIDN'T GO INTO THAT MUCH DETAIL.
HOW CLOSE THE PROPERTIES ARE IN OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT TO THE RECORDS.
I KNOW YOU GOT A LOT OF THINGS TO DO, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU AT LEAST LOOKING AT THAT.
AND WE HAVE, IT KIND OF CONFIRMS TO WHAT WE WERE GETTING SOMEBODY EMAILS AND FOLKS WOULD JUST SAY, I LIVE IN THE AREA AND I SUPPORT HER, OR I LIVE IN THE AREA AND I DON'T SUPPORT IT.
SO WE GOT A GOOD FEEL FOR THAT.
SO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION.
IT WAS MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, WITH FOUR IN FAVOR AND ONE OPPOSED.
AND THE CONCERNS FROM THE, UH, PLANNING ZONING COMMISSIONER WERE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC CONCERNS AND WITH TWO, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, UH, ABSENT, WHICH WAS, UH, WHICH WERE ABSENT.
UM, DURING PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, UH, PNZ DID ASK FOR SOME ENHANCEMENTS, WHICH ARE SHOWN ON THE PLANS THAT ARE PROVIDED IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY, WHICH INCLUDE PEDESTRIAN PATH OFF THE SSON ROAD, WHICH WAS PROVIDED, AND INCREASE THE TREE SIZE AS WELL.
IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.
UH, THE PROPOSAL DOES MEET ALL ZONING CODE STANDARDS, MEET SETBACKS, LOT COVERAGE, UH, PARKING, ET CETERA.
AND, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
AND THIS CONCLUDES, UH, PLANNING STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
SO LEMME START WITH A COUPLE QUESTIONS AND, AND MAYBE THIS WILL GET BOUNCED TO THE QT SIDE.
UM, IS SOMEONE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC AND, AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE, UH, WITH THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS AND, UH, INDEPENDENT OF, OF THIS ACTION, WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE AND, AND ITS GOAL WILL? SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT THAT.
DO WE HAVE A STAFF PERSON OR WAS THAT COVERED BY THE, UH, BY QT TO START? SO, UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR, UH, MAYOR
UM, MAYBE IT'S BEST THAT MAYBE THE APPLICANT DOES DO THEIR PRESENTATION.
THEY DO TOUCH A LOT ON TRAFFIC AND A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT THE RESIDENTS HAD.
SO MAYBE I'LL COME BACK OR, OR COUNSEL WILL AFTER WE LISTEN TO THEM.
UM, SECONDLY, THERE'S UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COMMENT ABOUT GAS STATIONS AND CRIME.
UH, SO A COUPLE THINGS IS, IS THERE, AND CITY MANAGER, I KNOW YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS, IS THERE ANY, DOES QT STAND OUT AS BEING, UM, MORE INCLINED TO CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, FOR EXAMPLE, THEN A CIRCLE K, A CHEVRON, OR ANYTHING ELSE? IS THERE, IS THERE SOMETHING ABOUT THEM? DO WE HAVE DATA THAT WOULD SUPPORT THAT? AND, AND, UH, APART FROM THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT DATA DO WE HAVE, I GUESS, ON GAS STATIONS TO START WITH, WHETHER THERE'S ONE OR TWO OR, OR WHATEVER AROUND.
DO YOU, CAN YOU ANSWER THAT? UH, MAYOR, THAT'S PROBABLY A QUESTION THAT IS BEST ANSWERED BY THE APPLICANT.
THEY DO HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON HOW THEY DEAL WITH, UH, TRANSIENTS.
UM, ANY CONCERNS, CRIME THAT MIGHT OCCUR ON THE PROPERTY? YOU'RE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB OF DEFLECTING MY QUESTIONS TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FROM YOUR PART BEFORE WE, UH, INVITE THE APPLICANT UP? UH, WE CAN GO BACK IF, IF, IF NECESSARY, BUT THEY MIGHT, THEY MIGHT HAVE ALSO LOOKED.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBER MORALES, UH, UP AND Z AS WE COME IN THE PROJECT.
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MUCH DID IT PASS? PNZ? HOW MANY? FOUR.HOW MANY? UH, YEAH, LET GO BACK TO THE LAST FOUR.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, MAYOR? COUNCIL MEMBER? I, I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM CHIEF DINDA IF THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN THE CHAPMAN.
OR, I'M SORRY, IS BRIAN HERE? CHIEF CHAPMAN? OH, HE'S DELEGATING.
UM, JUST SOME FEEDBACK ON TRANSIENTS AND CRIME AT DIFFERENT BRANDS OF GAS STATIONS, UH, IN THE, IN THE, UH, CHANDLER MARKET.
SO, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
SO JUST IN PREPARATION FOR THIS MEETING, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, REVIEWED THE FOUR QUICKTRIP LOCATIONS WITHIN OUR CITY AND WE ANALYZED THE DATA, THE CALLS FOR SERVICE AT THOSE LOCATIONS FROM MARCH 5TH, 2023 TO MARCH 5TH, 2024.
THE FOUR LOCATIONS IN CHANDLER FOR QUICKTRIP WE HAVE ARE ARIZONA AND WARNER, ARIZONA AVENUE IN GERMAN, MCQUEEN AND CHANDLER BOULEVARD, AND THEN QUEEN CREEK AND GILBERT ROAD.
SO WHEN WE WERE ANALYZING THIS DATA, WE SEPARATED THE CALLS FOR SERVICE INTO CRIMINAL AND NON-CRIMINAL BECAUSE THE CONCERN HERE WAS ABOUT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AT THESE LOCATIONS.
AND SO WHEN I SPEAK TO CRIMINAL OFFENSES, WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS SUCH AS THEFT, TRESPASSING, DISORDERLY CONDUCT, OR A WARRANT ARREST, SOMETHING WHERE THERE WAS A CRIMINAL OFFENSE AND SOMEONE WAS ARRESTED OR CHARGED.
WHEN WE LOOKED AT NON-CRIMINAL EVENTS OR LOOKING SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS LIKE A VEHICLE LOCKOUT, MAYBE A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT THAT OCCURRED THERE, UM, PUBLIC INFORMATION OR POTENTIALLY SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY, BUT IT DIDN'T RESULT IN ANYTHING CRIMINAL RELATED.
UM, SO AS WE, AS WE REVIEWED THIS INFORMATION, UM, WE LOOKED AT LOCATION BASED CALLS, MEANING THAT QUICKTRIP IS THE LOCATION THAT THE, UM, THAT THE, UH, OFFENSE OR THE CALL FOR SERVICE OCCURRED, BUT IT WASN'T NECESSARILY MAYBE A CRIME THAT OCCURRED THERE.
SO IT COULD BE AS SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS, UM, AN ACCIDENT WAS REPORTED AND THE INDIVIDUALS PULLED OFF INTO THE QUICKTRIP, UM, PARKING LOT AND THAT WOULD GENERATE A CALL FOR SERVICE AT QUICKTRIP.
SO WHEN WE SPECIFICALLY LOOKED AT, LET'S SEE IF MY, MY, UH, SLIDE IS UP HERE.
CAN I GET SOME HELP WITH THAT? OKAY.
SO THE MAP THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, UH, WE PULLED, UM, THREE SPECIFIC LOCATIONS.
WE PULLED THE QUICK TRIP AT ARIZONA AND WARNER, AND THEN THE CIRCLE K AT KNOX IN ALMA SCHOOL, AND THEN THE CHEVRON LOCATED AT RAY AND DOBSON.
SO YOU HAVE ALL THREE OF THE MAJOR CONVENIENT, UH, UH, CONVENIENCE STORES WITHIN OUR CITY.
THE NUMBER THAT YOU SEE ASSOCIATED NEXT TO QUICKTRIP CIRCLE K AND CHEVRON, THAT IS THE CRIMINAL CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT OCCURRED DURING THAT, THAT YEAR'S TIME PERIOD THAT I, THAT I PULLED.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT ALL THREE OF THOSE LOCATIONS HAD RELATIVELY THE, THE SAME AMOUNT OR SIMILAR AMOUNT OF CRIMINAL CALLS FOR SERVICE.
WHAT THIS DOESN'T SHOW IS THAT QUICKTRIP, UM, DID HAVE AN INCREASED AMOUNT OF NON-CRIMINAL CALLS FOR SERVICE.
THEY WERE HIGHER, UM, THAN THE OTHER TWO LOCATIONS.
BUT AGAIN, LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, THOSE COULD BE, THOSE COULD BE FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS THAT WERE NON-CRIMINAL RELATED.
AND CHIEF, WHY, I MEAN, JUST FOR SAKE OF ARGUMENT, WHY THESE, I, I SAW ONE OF EACH, BUT WHY THESE THREE? WAS IT JUST OUT OF RANDOMNESS OR? NO, SO I SPECIFIC, UH, MAYOR, I SPECIFICALLY CHOSE THIS LOCATION BECAUSE RAY AND DOBSON IS THE, IS THE AREA THAT THIS LOCATION IS LOOKING TO BE, THAT QUICKTRIP IS LOOKING TO BUILD UPON.
SO THESE ARE THREE IN THE RELATIVELY CLOSE, UH, CONVENIENCE STORE LOCATIONS WITHIN THAT AREA THAT IS RELATIVELY THE SAME CRIME.
AND COULD STAFF PLEASE PUT THAT BACK UP AGAIN? COULD WE SEE THAT AGAIN? IT'S OKAY, THANK YOU.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF TIENDA? YEAH.
SO I UNDERSTAND CRIME AND CALL FOR SERVICE.
WHAT WAS THE CALL FOR SERVICES OTHER THAN CRIME FOR THESE THREE AREAS? SO THE, THE BREAKDOWN, IT COULD BE ACCIDENTS.
NO, WHAT WAS, DO YOU HAVE NUMBERS? YES, I DO HAVE NUMBERS.
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SO FOR THE TOTAL CALLS FOR SERVICE AT THE, UH, ARIZONA AVENUE AND WARNER, IT WAS 128 TOTAL.SO 39 OF THOSE WERE CRIMINAL, 89 OF THOSE WERE NON-CRIMINAL.
AND THEN THE, LET'S SEE, SORRY, I HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL MY NOTES.
HERE AT THE, UH, CHEVRON AT DOBSON AND RAY, UH, THERE WERE A TOTAL OF 55 CALLS FOR SERVICE.
37 OF THOSE WERE CRIMINAL AND 18 OF THOSE WERE NON-CRIMINAL.
MM-HMM,
UM, SO I THINK WHAT NEIGHBORS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IS LIKE GRADIENT CRIME, LIKE SPILLING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THE BEING MORE TRAFFIC AND THEN THAT MOVING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SOMEBODY GOING BACK TO DRINK BEER OR, OR JUST HANGING OUT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD 'CAUSE THEY STOPPED SOMEWHERE AND THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE, DO WE HAVE ANY DATA ON WHAT'S HAPPENED AROUND THESE, UH, GAS STATIONS OR THESE CONVENIENCE STORES IN THOSE AREAS? UH, MAYOR, LIKE IS THERE A HEAT MAP FOR THAT? LIKE IS IT, IS THERE MORE CRIME NEAR A CONVENIENCE STORE? SO THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC HEAT MAP RELATED INFORMATION FOR CALLS, UH, EXTENDED CALLS FOR SERVICE OUTSIDE OF THE, OF THE QUICKTRIP.
UM, AND I WOULD, I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SPEAK ACCURATELY TO THAT RIGHT NOW.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF? YEAH, CHIEF VICE MAYOR, YES.
UM, CHIEF, I WANTED TO KNOW, UM, IN TERMS OF, UM, HOW, UM, WHAT IS YOU, YOU'RE OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU'RE MONITORING VARIOUS BUSINESSES LIKE GAS STATIONS AS WELL.
WHAT DO YOU NORMALLY SEE IN TERMS OF HOW PEOPLE NAVIGATE THROUGH THE COMMUNITY OR HOW THEY APPROACH OR ATTEND OR GO GET GAS? WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE NORMAL BEHAVIORS OF A DRIVER WHO'S LOOKING FOR GAS? DO YOU, CAN YOU SHARE THAT OR WHAT YOU NORMALLY SEE IN THE COMMUNITY? I KNOW IT'S KIND OF OUT THERE, BUT JUST KIND OF WANNA LAY IT OUT THERE.
SO, UH, MAYOR, UH, VICE MAYOR, UH, HARRIS, SO WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT CONVENIENCE STORES WITH WHETHER IN THE CITY OF CHANDLER, ANY CITY ARE, ARE EXTREMELY POPULAR.
UM, THEY'RE, UH, YOU KNOW, AS WE DRIVE THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY, WE NEED TO FUEL, WE NEED FUEL OR THERE'S A NEED FOR THE CONVENIENCE STORE, THE CONVENIENCE FACTOR, WHETHER THERE'S FOOD OR DRINK INSIDE.
SO THEY GENERATE A LOT OF BUSINESS.
AND SO THROUGHOUT OUR, THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE AN INCREASED, UM, UH, TRAFFIC OR VOLUME AT ALL OF THE CONVENIENCE STORES THROUGHOUT OUR CITY BECAUSE THERE'S A, THERE'S A ESSENTIAL NEED THERE.
SO I GUESS, AND AND MORE SPECIFICALLY, DO YOU LIKE GAS STATIONS OR QTS, ARE THESE LIKE DESTINATION, DO YOU SEE THAT TRAFFICKERS ARE MORE LIKE, IS THIS LIKE A DESTINATION SPOT, LIKE I'M TRAVELING TO THIS SPOT FOR A DESTINATION? DO YOU SEE IT MORE ENCOMPASSING JUST THE COMMUNITY OR JUST THE AREA THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY MORE SERVICING THE AREA THAT THEY'RE IN OR IS IT A DESTINATION SPOT THAT I GOTTA GO THERE? MAYOR, MAYOR.
THIS MIGHT BE CITY MANAGER, MR. MAYOR, VICE.
THIS MIGHT BE A BETTER QUESTION FOR OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERING FOLKS.
I THINK YOU'RE TALKING MORE ABOUT DRIVER BEHAVIOR THAN THE CRIMINAL ASPECT.
SO WE DO HAVE STAFF HERE THAT CAN ADDRESS THAT AS WELL.
I CAN RESERVE IT FOR STAFF, FOR OTHER STAFF.
CHIEF, DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON MAYBE THE UNHOUSED POPULATION? I KNOW THAT WAS A BIT OF A CONCERN TOO, THAT THIS MIGHT ATTRACT PEOPLE LIVING THERE OR I DON'T KNOW, PANHANDLING, WHATEVER.
DID YOU PULL ANY INFORMATION ON THAT THROUGH THE MAYOR? BEST COUNCIL MEMBER POSTIN? I ACTUALLY WOULD DEFER TO LEAH FOR THAT INFORMATION.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH THROUGH THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER POSTON.
WE DID TAKE A LOOK AT CONVENIENCE STORES AND QUICKTRIP AND IN SPECIFICALLY IN THE CITY OF CHANDLER.
AND, UM, TO LET YOU KNOW, THE DATABASE THAT WE USE, THE HOMELESS MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEM DOES NOT PINPOINT DOWN TO A SPECIFIC ADDRESS, BUT IT PINPOINTS TO A SPECIFIC GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION.
IN THIS CASE IT WAS THE INTERSECTIONS.
SO WE ACTUALLY DOVE BACK INTO THE SPECIFIC CASES AND WERE NOT ABLE TO FIND ANY CORRELATION BETWEEN AN INCREASE IN HOMELESSNESS AND QUICKTRIP.
UM, AS A MATTER OF FACT, IN THE AREA THAT WE HAD THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF INTERACTION WITH THE NAVIGATORS, THE, IT WAS REALLY ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT ACCOUNTED FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE INTERACTIONS AND THAT INDIVIDUAL WAS ACTUALLY LIVING IN AN ALLEY BEHIND ANOTHER BUSINESS IN THAT INTERSECTION.
AND THE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE THERE WERE PANHANDLING IN THEIR INTERSECTION, BUT NOT ON THE QT SIDE.
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UM, SO WE DID CREATE A HEAT MAP TO SHOW YOU HERE IF THAT'S SHOWING.UM, SO BASICALLY AGAIN, WE LOOKED AT ALL THREE LOCATIONS AND THE INTERACTIONS, UM, THROUGH THE YEARS.
WE HAVE ONE OF THE Q QT LOCATIONS, THE GOVERNING QUEEN CREEK LOCATION.
THERE WERE ZERO INTERACTION WITH NAVIGATORS OVER A TWO YEAR TIME PERIOD.
AND THEN THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF INTERACTIONS WERE AT THE ARIZONA AND WARNER.
AND OVER TWO YEARS, THAT WAS 33.
BUT AGAIN, ONE INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNTED FOR ABOUT 20 OF THOSE IN THOSE INTERACTIONS.
GET, I'M SORRY, CAN WE GET IT DIALED IN? IT'S A LITTLE FUZZY.
LEAH, DO YOU THINK YOU COULD REPEAT, I APOLOGIZE, REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID? I WAS KIND OF BUSY LOOKING SURE.
THE, THE LOCATION, SO ONE OF OUR, THE, OF THE FOUR QUICK TRIP LOCATIONS IN CHANDLER, ONE OF 'EM HAD ZERO INTERACTIONS WITH THE NAVIGATION TEAM OVER A TWO YEAR TIME PERIOD.
THE ONE THAT HAD THE MOST NUMBER OF INTERACTIONS WAS AT ARIZONA AND WARNER, THAT IN OVER A TWO YEAR TIME PERIOD, THERE WERE 33 INTERACTIONS, BUT ONE INDIVIDUAL ALONE ACCOUNTED FOR ABOUT 20 OF THOSE.
AND THAT WAS THE INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS LIVING IN THE ALLEY AT AN ADJACENT OR A BUSINESS ACTUALLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE QUIKTRIP.
BUT IT REGISTERED ON THAT INTERSECTION SECTION.
DOES IT, DOES IT SEEM TO BE, UM, AN ATTRACTION BECAUSE IT'S A CONVENIENCE STORE OR BECAUSE, OR BASED ON MAYBE LOCATION ANYWAY THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER POSTON? IT WOULD BE LOCATION ANYWAY BECAUSE AGAIN, WE COULD NOT TIE ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY TO THE QUICKTRIP EVEN LOOKING AT THE CASE NOTES THAT WERE ASSOCIATED WITH THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE ON THE HEAT MAP.
SO IT TENDED TO BE JUST THE GENERAL AREA RATHER THAN THE SPECIFIC CONVENIENCE STORE.
NOW, IF I WAS COMPARING THIS HEAT MAP WITH, LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, UH, ONE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE, AND I WAS ON A, UH, I WAS ON A, IN FRY.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY THE, THE, THE NUMBERS WILL SHOW PRETTY MUCH COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, EXCUSE ME, THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT HMIS DATA IS COLLECTED, UM, THAT IT'S VERY HARD TO PINPOINT THAT ALSO TO THE CONVENIENCE CENTER BECAUSE ACTUALLY OUR ADDRESS PULLS UP AS THE SAME LOCATION AS THE CONVENIENCE CENTER ON THE HEAT MAP.
SO AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN LOOKING FOR SERVICES BECAUSE THEY SEE HOUSING ON THE OUTSIDE OF OUR BUILDING, RIGHT? MM-HMM,
SO THE NUMBERS ARE SKEWED FOR THAT LOCATION.
UM, AND, AND UNFORTUNATELY WE CAN'T DRILL IT DOWN TO THAT SPECIFIC BUSINESS BECAUSE OF THAT.
NOW MAYOR, PLEASE TO SAY THAT, UH, AT THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION, IT WILL ATTRACT MORE TRANSIENT, IT WILL ATTRACT MORE HOMELESS, UH, PEOPLE KNOWING THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SEVEN NAVIGATORS IN THE STREET DOING THAT WORK, WHICH PERSONALLY MYSELF, I HAVE SEEN THOSE NUMBERS IN THE CORNERS TOTALLY ALMOST DISAPPEARING NOW SINCE WE ARE DOING ALL THAT WORK.
WILL THAT BE A FAIR, FAIR STATEMENT TO SAY THAT THIS WILL BE THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION IN VIEW OF ALL THE OTHER LOCATION THAT WE JUST LOOKED AT THAT ARE NOT SHOWING THAT WILL THIS PARTICULAR ONE BE THE ONE WHERE THEY WILL ACTUALLY SHOW UP TOO THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS? YES.
WE HAVE FOUND NO DATA TO SUPPORT A CORRELATION BETWEEN AN INCREASED NUMBER OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND QUICKTRIP SPECIFICALLY THE INTERSECTION.
WE DO NOT HAVE A TREMENDOUS NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THAT INTERSECTION THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
WHAT WE DO TEND TO FIND IS REPEAT GROUP OF PANHANDLER THAT WILL GO TO PRIZE.
THEY'RE A VERY WELL-KNOWN GROUP OF PANHANDLER.
UM, THEY ARE BASICALLY ON A CIRCUIT, NOT JUST IN CHANDLER, BUT AROUND THE VALLEY AND ARE NOT EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, HOWEVER, THEY PORTRAY THEMSELVES TO BE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
THAT IS THE MAJORITY OF THE CALLS THAT WE GET FOR THAT INTERSECTION.
AND WHETHER THEY'RE ACROSS THE STREET AT THE CHEVRON OR AT FRIES, IT WILL REGISTER IN THAT CORNER RIGHT NOW TO THE MAYOR.
COUNCILOR ELLIS? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND JUST LOOKING AT YOUR MAP, I I I THINK, AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THE ARIZONA CORRIDOR, UH, WHERE AT THE HEAT MAP IS, IS MORE STRONG BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE MORE SERVICES THERE WITH, UH, SALVATION ARMY, WITH THE CITY, WITH ASCEND, WITH OTHERS.
SO I, PEOPLE ARE GONNA, I MEAN, IT, IT MAKES SENSE IF YOU'RE GONNA GET A, A CALL THAT THEY MIGHT BE.
BUT JUST LOOKING AT THIS MAP, I'D BE HARD PRESSED TO SAY THAT THERE'S REALLY ANY SPECIFIC STORE OR, OR ANY GAS STATION THAT BECOMES A MAGNET.
WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU AGREE WITH MY ASSESSMENT APART FROM THE, THE DOWNTOWN ARIZONA AVENUE
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AND CERTAINLY IT SEEMS TO BE A CLUSTER IN THE WEST CHANDLER A LITTLE BIT, BUT, UM, CLOSE TO THE FREEWAY YES.THROUGH, UH, MAYOR HARKEY AND COUNCIL? YES, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
FROM WHAT WE HAVE SEEN, WE CANNOT TIE ANYTHING TO ANY SPECIFIC CONVENIENCE STORES BEING A HIGHER MAGNET FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS THAN ANY OTHER LOCATION, ANY OTHER CONVENIENCE STORE.
UM, AND AS YOU POINTED OUT ON THE WEST SIDE, WE SEE THAT SPREAD OUT AMONGST SOME OF THE HOTELS THAT ARE OVER THERE, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE CONVENIENCE STORES AND OTHER BUSINESSES IN THAT AREA.
UM, ALSO SOME OF THE VACANT PROPERTY THAT'S IN THE INDUSTRIAL AREA, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CALLS FOR SERVICE, AGAIN, REPEAT INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE IN THOSE AREAS THAT HAVE STILL SOME VACANT LOTS.
AND, UM, ONE OTHER PIECE OF DATA I DO WANNA SHARE IS THAT EVERY TIME OUR NAVIGATION TEAM INTERACTS WITH SOMEONE WHO AT LEAST WILL GIVE THEIR NAME, IF THEY DON'T GIVE ANY TYPE OF IDENTIFYING INFORMATION, IT WILL NOT NECESSARILY GET LOGGED IN THE HMIS SYSTEM, BUT ANYTIME THEY INTERACT WITH ANYONE THAT THEY CAN IDENTIFY, IT GETS LOGGED IN THE SYSTEM.
SO AGAIN, IF SOMEBODY COMES INTO OUR OFFICE LOOKING FOR A BUS PASS, IT'S GOING TO GET LOGGED INTO THE SYSTEM.
UH, COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR LEO POWELL? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
UM, COUNCIL WHI I MEAN, I'M, I'M ALSO ITCHING TO TALK TO TRAFFIC, BUT, UM, I WONDER IF WE SHOULD MAYBE LET'S ALLOW THE, UH, THE PRESENTER TO COME AND THEN WE'LL FOLLOW UP WHATEVER THEY DON'T COVER WITH THEIR OWN TRAFFIC.
SO, IS THE PRESENTER HERE? YEAH.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND, UH, AND MAKE YOUR CASE
THANK YOU MAYOR, FOR YOUR RECORD.
MY NAME IS BRIAN GREATHOUSE WITH THE LAW FIRM BIRCH AND KRA.
UH, OUR FIRM HAS BEEN REPRESENTING QT FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS, AND WITH ME TONIGHT FROM QT IS DANIEL CHAMBERS.
I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THIS ON THIS CASE WITH AND MANY OTHER CASES IN THE VALLEY.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE JAMIE BLAKEMAN WHO'S GONNA HELP AUGMENT MY PRESENTATION TONIGHT.
SHE'S WITH, SHE'S THE PRINCIPAL OF LOKAHI GROUP, WHO'S OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER ON OUR TEAM.
WE ALSO HAVE OTHER TEAM MEMBERS WITH US TONIGHT AS WELL.
UM, I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T, UM, SAY THAT WE, WE APPRECIATE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
UH, AND WE ACCEPT ALL STIPULATIONS THAT ARE IN THE STAFF REPORT, UH, THAT'S PROVIDED FROM STAFF TO YOU ALL.
UM, I GUESS I WOULD NEED A PRESENTATION UP HERE.
UH, MAYOR COUNCIL RELATED, JUST A TECHNICAL QUESTION HERE.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OR IT'S RECOMMENDING IT'S CONFORMANCE, UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
'CAUSE THE ORIGINAL ONE I SAW WAS YOU RECOMMENDING THE, THE VARIANCE.
OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT.
I ALWAYS ASSUME THE YOUNGER, THE PERSON THAT COMES TO SETTLE TECHNICAL PROBLEMS ARE THE MOST QUALIFIED
YOU'RE ACTUALLY USUALLY WRONG, BUT IT'S ON MY SIDE TODAY.
I USED TO BE THE ONE WHO HAD TO COME UP HERE AND DO IT FOR ED BULL
UM, AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON MARCH 21ST, YOU ALL, UM, APPROVED OUR REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE AND WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THAT.
AND SO WHAT'S HAPPENED SINCE MARCH 21ST? UM, WE HELD A FOLLOW UP NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AS STAFF PRESENTED.
UH, WE SEND OUT 421 INVITES FOR THAT.
WE HAD MORE THAN 20 ATTENDEES.
WE HEARD AND ADDRESSED CONCERNS REGARDING TRAFFIC, UH, AND SAFETY.
IT'S BEEN A COMMON THEME THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.
UH, AND WE ALSO HEARD SUPPORT FOR A NEW QT STORE.
UM, AFTER THAT MEETING WE WERE THINKING, WHAT'S, WHAT'S NEXT? WHAT'S, WHAT SHOULD WE DO NOW? AND IT WAS IN-PERSON COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
SO, UH, WE BROUGHT TOM BILL STEIN AND HIS WIFE, UH, KRISTA BILL STEIN ON BOARD, AND THEIR TEAM HELPED US WITH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH.
UM, WE HEARD AN OUTPOURING OF SUPPORT.
WE HAVE 1,359 LETTERS HERE, INDIVIDUALLY SIGNED BY PEOPLE WITHIN CHANDLER BOUNDARIES.
UM, AND 1,359 OF THOSE ARE CHANDLER RESIDENTS.
898 ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO SIGNED AND LIVE IN THE AREA BUT AREN'T NECESSARILY CHANDLER RESIDENTS.
UM, AND THEN 14 LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM BUSINESSES MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER.
CAN I SEE, UH, ARE THOSE FORM LETTERS? I GUESS? YEAH.
CAN I SEE ONE OF 'EM AND THEN ONE
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FROM THE BUSINESSES THAT SIGNED? ABSOLUTELY.YOU DON'T WANT ME TO BRING 'EM ALL UP THERE? AND I CAN SHOW YOU A SUMMARY MAP HERE AS WELL.
THIS IS THE MAP OF EVERYBODY WHO SIGNED.
DO YOU ALL HAVE THIS PRESENTATION ON YOUR SCREENS? OKAY, THERE.
IT WASN'T ON THESE SCREENS FOR, FOR A MINUTE.
SO THESE ARE THE, THIS IS A MAP OF THE LETTERS THAT WE HAVE SIGNED IN SUPPORT FROM INDIVIDUALS.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE IN CHANDLER.
UM, THESE ARE SUPPORT LETTERS WE RECEIVED FROM BUSINESSES AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE SAME INTERSECTION OF RAY AND DOBSON AND THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF RAY AND DOBSON.
COULD YOU GO BACK TO THAT FOR A SECOND? JUST TO YES.
SO I'D LIKE TO TAKE A QUICK MOMENT TO SHOW, UM, EVERYBODY IN THE, IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY WHAT'S PROPOSED, UM, ON THIS SITE WITH A NEW QT STORE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANY OF THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY LOCATIONS.
SO TRAFFIC PATTERNS WILL REMAIN AS THEY HAVE FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS.
UH, WE WILL BE DEMOLISHING THE VACANT OS OSCO BUILDING THAT'S A 17,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.
WE'LL BE REPLACING IT WITH A 5,000 SQUARE FOOT QT STORE AND EIGHT FUEL STATIONS.
THERE'S EXPANSIVE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS AROUND THE SITE ALONG RAY AND DOBSON.
THE QT BUILDING IS MORE THAN 350 FEET AWAY FROM THE NEAREST HOME.
AS YOU KNOW, THAT'S MORE THAN A FOOTBALL FIELD.
AND YOU CAN SEE A FOOTBALL FIELD UP ON THE TOP LEFT HAND OF THE SCREEN.
UH, YEAH, THE SCREEN, THIS, THESE NEXT FEW PERSPECTIVES ARE WORKING AROUND THE SITE FROM THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY ON RAILROAD DOWN RAILROAD.
THIS IS LOOKING AT FROM THE INTERSECTION.
NOW WE'RE ON DOBSON ROAD LOOKING AT THE FRONT OF THE QT STORE AND COMPLETING AT THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY ON, ON DOBSON ROAD.
SO STAFF TOUCHED ON IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT I WANTED TO TAKE JUST TWO SLIDES HERE REAL QUICK.
THIS PROPERTY WAS ZONED IN 1998 TO PAD AND IT ALLOWS C TWO USES TODAY.
UH, THE VACANT, THERE IS A VACANT OSCO BUILDING ON THE SITE.
UH, I CAN'T THINK OF A USE THAT ATTRACTS VAGRANCY MORE THAN A VACANT BUILDING.
SO INFILL REDEVELOPMENT IS NECESSARY ON THE SITE AND THIS SITE WILL DEVELOP WITH SOMETHING.
AND QT IS A GREAT INFILL REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY ON THIS SITE.
AND THEY HAVE STRONG SUSTAINING POWER BECAUSE THEY'RE A GOOD REPUTABLE COMPANY.
SO WHAT COULD BE DEVELOPED ON THIS SITE COULD BE A COUPLE FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS WITH DRIVE-THROUGHS.
COULD BE SOME RETAIL OPPORTUNITIES, COULD BE A CONVENIENCE MARKET LIKE A QT STORE, NOT THE FUEL STATIONS, BUT A STORE OR A SEVEN 11 OR A JOE'S MINI MARKET OR A NUMBER OF OTHER USES.
AND AS YOU HEARD STAFF SAY, WHAT WE, WHAT ARE WE REQUESTING HERE TODAY? WE'RE ESSENTIALLY REQUESTING EIGHT FUEL STATIONS.
AND TO GIVE YOU A CONTEXT OF HOW LARGE EIGHT FUEL STATIONS THAT ARE, THAT'S THE SAME SIZE AS THE CHEVRON ACROSS THE STREET.
THEY HAVE EIGHT FUEL STATIONS.
QT WILL HAVE EIGHT FUEL STATIONS.
SO WE'RE GONNA JUMP INTO SOME COMMON CONCERNS.
UM, TRAFFIC AND SAFETY, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SINCE OUR FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ON THIS, ON THIS CASE.
SO I'D LIKE TO BRING UP, UH, JAMIE BLAKEMAN FROM LOKAHI TO ADDRESS SOME TRAFFIC CONCERNS.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I'M JAMIE BLAKEMAN, UM, WITH LOKAHI.
UH, OUR ADDRESS IS 1 0 5 5 5 NORTH HUNDRED AND 14TH STREET IN SCOTTSDALE.
UH, SO I AM THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER FOR THIS PROJECT.
UM, AND UH, I REALLY AM EXCITED TO GO THROUGH THIS.
I, FIRST OF ALL, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT THIS
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AND I WOULD LIKE TO WALK YOU ALL THROUGH THE PROCESS OF TRAFFIC ENGINEERING.HOPEFULLY Y'ALL CAN FOLLOW ALONG.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, THE TRAFFIC TEAM FOR QUICKTRIP HAS NO TRAFFIC CON CONCERNS.
THE CITY OF CHANDLER TRAFFIC GROUP HAS NO TRAFFIC CONCERNS.
SO WE ARE THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS.
I'M GONNA LET YOU KNOW THAT BOTH SIDES, THIS IS WHERE WE LAND.
SO TRAFFIC, I'M REALLY HOPING YOU ALL FOLLOW ALONG WITH THIS.
SO A QUICK TRIP CERTAINLY HAS A LOT OF FOLKS COMING IN AND OUT.
ANYTIME I'M THERE, I'M NEVER ALONE.
THERE'S PEOPLE HEADING IN AND OUT.
SO WE SEE THAT ACTIVITY AND WE ASSUME THAT THAT REPRESENTS NEW TRAFFIC.
BUT IN REALITY, AND THESE ARE ALL BASED ON DATA POINTS, NATIONAL STANDARDS, FORMULAS, FITTED CURVES, THAT'S ALL ACCEPTED BY MY PRACTICE.
SO QUICKTRIP IS GOING TO RESULT IN ABOUT 4,000 TRIPS IN AND OUT OF THEIR UH, DEVELOPMENT.
BUT OF THOSE 4,000 TRIPS I HAVE CIRCLED HERE, 3,100, LET'S JUST SAY 3000.
'CAUSE THESE ARE APPROXIMATE OUR PASS BY TRIPS.
SO WITH GAS STATIONS, CONVENIENCE STORES, THIS IS DATA POINTS PERCENTAGES THAT I AM REQUIRED TO USE THAT ARE PUBLISHED IN A MANUAL THAT SAYS THIS IS WHAT WE KNOW OF THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO 75%, 76% OF IT IS PASSED BY MEANING THOSE VEHICLES ARE ALREADY ON THAT ROADWAY, NOT NEW ON THAT RIDE ROADWAY.
SO LET'S FOR A MINUTE, LET'S FOCUS ON THIS 3000.
SO WHAT THIS IS SAYING, AND SO WE EVEN DISTRIBUTE THIS.
SO WHAT THIS IS SAYING, DOBSON ROAD CURRENTLY HAS ABOUT 12,000 TRIPS.
OF THOSE 12,000 TRIPS THAT IS NOT INCREASING, BUT A THOUSAND OF THOSE ALREADY EXISTING, 11,800 TRIPS, 1,100 OF THEM ARE GOING TO TURN IN TO THE QUICKTRIP, GO GRAB THEIR GAS, GO GRAB THEIR DRINK AND KEEP ON GOING.
SO THAT'S HOW YOU GET 1000, RIGHT? SO REMEMBER IT'S 3000 PASS BY TRIPS.
SO HERE'S WHERE YOU GET YOUR OTHER TWO.
WE, WE WEIGHT THIS BASED ON THE ROAD.
SO NOW HERE'S WHERE YOU'RE AT 20,000.
SO WE'RE SAYING DOUBLE RIGHT? 2000 OF THAT IS OF THAT 20,000 TRIPS ALREADY IS GOING TO BE USING THE 2000 OF IT IS GOING TO BE USING THE QUICKTRIP.
SO NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT THE REMAINING 1000.
SO THE 1000 ARE NEW TRIPS THAT IS BEING ADDED TO DOBSON AND RAY IN THAT AREA.
SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NEW TRIPS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOLKS WHO ARE NOT ALREADY ALONG THE ROADWAY WHO ARE NOW GONNA DESTIN TO THAT LOCATION.
SO THESE WOULD BE THINGS LIKE EMPLOYEES, FOLKS LIKE EMPLOYEES DELIVERIES, GAS DELIVERIES, CHIP DELIVERIES.
I DON'T KNOW WHO DELIVERS THE HOT DOGS, BUT IT WOULD BE THOSE FOLKS, RIGHT? WHO ISN'T DRIVING ALREADY HAPPEN TO BE DRIVING ALONG RAILROAD AND DECIDES TO TURN INTO A QUIT TRIP.
THEY ARE STARTING FROM A DESTINATION ELSEWHERE.
EN ROUTE GPS TO THIS QUICK TRIP.
SO THE THOUSAND IS THE NEW TRIP.
SO AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, AS WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS, A CONVENIENCE STORE CAN ALREADY GO THERE.
COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT CAN GO THERE, RESTAURANTS CAN GO THERE, FAST FOOD CAN GO THERE.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, THE PHARMACY AND DRUGSTORE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT NEW TRIPS, IF THIS WAS, IF THE OCO WAS OPEN, IF THERE NEW TRIPS EXCEEDS THAT 1000.
SO DO YOU SEE THAT THIS OCO, IF IT WAS OPEN, IS ACTUALLY ADDING MORE TO DOBSON ARRAY THAN THE QUICKTRIP DOES? I HAVE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LITTLE BLUE TABLE AT THE BOTTOM, I AM, IT'S IN LITTLE NUMBERS, BUT YOU'LL ALSO SEE THAT THE PHARMACY ALSO HAS PASS BY.
SO THERE IS A PERCENTAGE OF PASS BY THAT.
YOU KIND OF GO PAST AN OSCAR AND YOU'RE LIKE, OH SHOOT, THAT'S RIGHT.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE PASS BUY PERCENTAGES, IT'S LESS.
AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT A CONVENIENCE STORE AND A GAS STATION IS HIGH PERCENTAGE OF
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PASS BUY.SO LET ME SHOW YOU ANOTHER USE.
FAST FOOD WOULD DRIVE-THROUGHS.
AGAIN, THE NEW TRIPS, 1200 QUICKTRIP, 1000 FAST FOOD WITHOUT DRIVE-THROUGH CHIPOTLE'S PANDAS, WE ALL LOVE THEM.
2200 NEW TRIPS, QUICKTRIP 1000 COFFEE DONUT SHOPS.
2,600 NEW TRIPS, QUICKTRIP 1000.
SO NOW, SO NOW WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CAN THESE ROADWAYS HANDLE THE CAPACITY OF THIS ADDITIONAL 1000 TRIPS, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE 3000 IS ALREADY THERE.
DOBSON ROAD IS BUILT TO HANDLE 36,000 VEHICLES A DAY WITH THE C TRIP IT WILL BE AT 24,000.
AND NOW MIND YOU, WE ASSIGNED ALL 1000 TRIPS TO EXIT ON DOBSON ROAD, WHICH IN REALITY THERE'S GOING TO BE A SPLIT OF THAT 1000.
SOME WILL BE ON DOBSON, SOME WILL BE ON WAY SOME IN REALITY, THIS 24,000 IS MORE THAN WHAT WE IT, IT REALLY IS GONNA BE IN REALITY WE HAVE OVERESTIMATED THE CAPACITY HERE.
AND SO ANOTHER THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IN TERMS OF CAPACITY OF A ROAD.
SO UH, ATTRIBUTE TO QUICKTRIP, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A LITTLE DRINK, LIKE A 12 OUNCE DRINK, YOU HEAD INTO QUICKTRIP AND YOU GRAB YOUR 12 OUNCE CUP AND YOU FILL THAT UP.
IF WE'RE WANTING, IF WE'RE LOOKING TO FIT FEW VOLUMES, WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE LITTLE CUP.
WE HAVE A NARROW, A SMALLER ROADWAY WITH FEWER LANES, RIGHT? AND OUR ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO USE THAT TO CAPACITY.
YOU FILL YOUR CUP UP, YOU'RE NOT GONNA FILL PART OF IT UP, YOU'RE GONNA FILL IT UP.
NOW WE DON'T WANT IT OVERFLOWING.
IF IT'S OVERFLOWING, WE NEED A BIGGER CUP.
SO THAT'S WHAT A ROAD IS DESIGNED TO DO.
SO NOW IF YOU LOOK AT THE CAPACITY OF THIS ROADWAY, WE BUILD IT TO HANDLE THAT MUCH TRAFFIC BECAUSE WE WANT THAT THERE.
IF NOT, WE SHOULD BE BUILDING SMALLER.
SO IN REALITY, BY NOT WANTING THIS TO BE FILLED IS LIKE SAYING YOU'RE GOING INTO QUICKTRIP, GRABBING YOUR 36 OUNCE CUP AND FILLING IT AT TO 12 OUNCES.
YOU'RE WE'RE BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE TO HOLD THE CAPACITY FOR A REASON.
SO THERE IS ADEQUATE CAPACITY ON DOBSON ROAD.
THERE IS ADEQUATE CAPACITY FOR 54,000 VEHICLES WITH THE COOK TRIP.
ALL NEW TRIPS, WHICH IS NOT TRUE.
BUT ALL NEW TRIPS DUMPING ONTO RAILROAD, WERE SITTING AT 42,000.
BRIAN KIND OF COVERED ALL OF THIS.
ALL ACCESS POINTS, ALL CIRCULATION REMAINING THE SAME.
THE SHARED ACCESS WITH TUTOR TIME IS ALREADY IN PLACE.
WE ARE NOT CHANGING ANY OF THAT.
AND NO MATTER WHAT GOES THERE, THIS SHARED ACCESS CONTINUES TO REMAIN.
SO NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
SO THIS IS COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT AND NOT PART OF QUICKTRIP.
THIS IS HAPPENING AS A RESULT OF THE GOOD WORK THAT YOUR CITY FOLKS HAVE DONE.
SO THERE IS A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT IS ALREADY FUNDED, ALREADY UNDERWAY, I BELIEVE ALREADY IN DIFFERENT PHASES OF DESIGN.
WHAT IS HAPPENING ALONG THIS ROADWAY.
IT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED AS SAFETY FUNDS AS WELL AS OVERALL IMPROVEMENT OF THE INTERSECTION.
THERE ARE GONNA BE RAISED MEDIANS ON ALL FOUR LEGS.
THERE ARE GONNA BE DUAL LEFT TURN LANES ON ALL FOUR LEGS.
THERE IS GOING TO BE RIGHT TURN LANES AND BIKE LANES.
WE CAN GET INTO PROTECTED LEFT TURN LANES AND THINGS OF THAT IF YOU WANT TO.
SO THAT SAID, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS INTERSECTION, THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU GUYS ARE MAKING WITH YOUR CIP, WHEN WE LOOK AT CRASH DATA, SO THIS IS 2021 AND 2022 CRASH DATA.
BUT IF YOU LOOK HERE ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 27 CRASHES IN 20 21, 36 IN 2022.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF CRASHES, ANGLE CRASHES, HEAD ON CRASHES, LEFT TURN CRASHES, AND SIDESWIPES THOSE FOUR CATEGORIES.
THE IMPROVEMENTS YOU GUYS ARE MAKING AT THIS INTERSECTION IS TARGETING THE REDUCTION OR IF IDEALLY THE ELIMINATION OF THOSE FOUR CRASH TYPES.
NOW UNFORTUNATELY, AT EVERY SIGNAL REAR ENDS
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ACTUALLY HAPPEN AS A RESULT OF PUTTING IN SIGNALS WHEN YOU PUT A SIGNAL IN REAR ENDS OCCUR.SO THOSE ARE TO BE ANTICIPATED AT A SIGNAL OTHER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER IS.
BUT IN REALITY YOUR PROJECT IS MAKING THIS INTERSECTION SAFER.
MAYOR COUNCILOR STEWART, UM, CITY MANAGER, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON THAT INTERSECTION? BLOWOUT, MR. MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART.
THERE IS, UH, FEDERAL MONEY AS MS. BLAKEMAN MENTIONED, AND THAT IS UH, FOR CONSTRUCTION IN 2026 IS WHEN THAT FUNDING HAS BEEN APPROVED.
WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE DESIGN PHASE.
YOU HAVE APPROVED A CONTRACT FOR THAT IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING.
SO IT'S ALREADY IN PROCESS TO IMPROVE CORRECT.
WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON THIS PROJECT? WHEN, WHEN, WHEN WOULD THIS BE? HOW FAR OUT WOULD THIS TAKE? WE ARE THESE LINING UP? I'M SORRY, CITY MANAGER.
ARE THESE LINING UP IF THEY WERE TO, UH, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART? I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT TIMELINE OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF QUICKTRIP.
IF YOU WERE TO APPROVE THAT, UM, THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
BUT AGAIN, OUR PROJECT WOULD NOT COMMENCE CONSTRUCTION UNTIL THE FUNDING WAS AVAILABLE IN 2026.
2026 IS WHEN WE WOULD TURN THE LIGHTS ON, RIGHT? THAT IS WHEN WE WERE SLATED BECAUSE IT'S ON THE FEDERAL SCHEDULE.
IF THIS WERE TO GET PASSED, QT ANTICIPATES OPENING THIS STORE IN APPROXIMATELY 18 MONTHS, WHICH WOULD BE END OF 2025.
SINCE WE TOOK A LITTLE BREAK IN FROM YOUR, FROM YOUR GROOVE THERE, LET ME ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
UH, ONE ABOUT TRAFFIC AND TWO ABOUT SOME OF THE PREVIOUS STUFF.
SO AS I LOOKED AT YOUR MAP AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE ONLY DIFFICULT ACCESS TO GET IN HERE IS PROBABLY GONNA BE HEADING EAST ON RAILROAD.
IF I WAS HEADING NORTH, I COULD TURN LEFT IF I WAS HEADING SOUTH, RIGHT? IF I'M HEADING, HEADING WEST, I CAN TURN RIGHT.
SO WHAT IS THE, HOW WOULD SOMEONE GET IN THERE IF THEY'RE HEADING EAST ON RAILROAD? SO MAYOR, THAT'S A SUPER GREAT QUESTION AND THAT IS ACTUALLY MY NEXT SLIDE.
SO AS WE TALKED ABOUT THIS PRO THIS THE TRIP GENERATION AND HOW MUCH OF IT, 75%, 75, 70 6% OF IT IS FOLKS ALREADY IN THAT DIRECTION? IT IS CONVENIENT STORE BECAUSE IT'S CONVENIENT.
SO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT HERE IS THE QUICKTRIP IS REALLY SERVING THOSE THAT ARE HEADED SOUTHBOUND AND THOSE THAT ARE HEADED WESTBOUND, THE CHEVRON IS THERE TO SERVE THOSE HEADED EASTBOUND, THOSE HEADED NORTHBOUND.
NOW ARE PEOPLE FROM OTHER DIRECTIONS GOING EVEN OTHER WAYS? SURE.
AND I WOULD, I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT IF YOU'RE HEADING NORTH YOU COULD, YOU COULD TURN LEFT AND THEN RIGHT.
AND THE SAME GOING SOUTH INTO THE CHEVRON AND THERE'S WAYS IT'S JUST BOTH OF THESE ARE CONVENIENT FOR THREE OUT OF THE FOUR FOR THE MOST PART.
MY OTHER QUESTION IS, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE DATA WITH OTHER STORES, IS THAT, IS THAT BASED ON TRAFFIC IN THIS? IS THAT BASED ON A REAL STORE WITHIN A MILE? HOW DOES THAT WORK WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A DRUG STORE OR, UM, A A CONVENIENCE STORE OR A OR A CIRCLE K, WHAT'S THE DRIVE THROUGH? WHERE DID, HOW DID YOU CAL OR HOW DOES CIRCLE K CALCULATE THOSE TYPES OF NUMBERS WITH, TO APPLY TO THIS PARTICULAR INTERSECTION? I MEAN, IF IT WAS IN DOWNTOWN SOMEPLACE ELSE, IT THE, THE NUMBERS COULD SKEW IF IT WAS MORE RURAL.
SO HOW, HOW DID YOU COME TO THOSE NUMBERS IN COMPARISON TO QT? SURE, MAYOR, UM, THE WAY THAT TRIPS ARE CALCULATED, WE HAVE NATIONAL FORMULA DATA POINTS.
SO THERE'S GRAPHS THAT ALL THESE DATA POINTS OF DIFFERENT, LIKE LET'S JUST SAY THE CONVENIENCE STORE GAS STATION THAT THEY'RE PLOTTED FROM AROUND THE UNITED STATES.
AND IT HAS TO GO THROUGH A REALLY LONG PROCESS TO EVEN BE VETTED AND BE ALLOWED TO BE A DATA POINT.
AND ALONG THAT DATA POINT, THERE'S SIZE AND THERE'S TRIPS AND THERE'S BEST FITTED CURVES AND LINEAR EQUATIONS THAT GO INTO THEM TO DETERMINE FORMULAS THAT WE USE.
AND THEY ARE COMPLETELY WHAT WE USE IN, IN OUR PROFESSION.
IT IS THE ONLY ACCEPTED METHOD THAT I KNOW THAT WE USE.
SO LET ME, LET ME FOLLOW UP THEN.
SO THE DATA POINTS, IS IT BASED UPON WHAT YOU DESCRIBED AS AS TRIPS, WHICH WOULD BE A, A REAL HARD NUMBER? I I PRESUME NOT JUST CAPACITY BUT REAL TRAFFIC NUMBERS ARE, WOULD IT BE BASED UPON, UH, A SQUARE MILE OF POPULATION OR, I MEAN, UH, I'M TRYING TO APPLY THAT DATA TO THIS INTERSECTION AS MUCH AS I CAN AS OPPOSED TO BEING A NATIONAL DATA POINT.
SO HONE THAT IN FOR ME PLEASE.
SO MAYOR, THIS, THE, THE DATA, IT DOESN'T LOOK AT THE AREA, RIGHT? IT LOOKS AT
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AVERAGES AND THERE'S, WE HAVE MINIMUMS, MAXIMUMS, SO WE KNOW WHERE THE DATA POINTS FIT BETWEEN.SO AT THE END OF THE DAY WE USE BEST FITTED CURVE FOR THIS.
OKAY, SO ARE YOU ALMOST, AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, I'M HONESTLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS.
SO I GUESS I'M, I'M ASKING THEN IS, ARE THOSE SAME DATA POINTS, WOULD THAT BE USED FOR CASA GRANDE OR SIERRA VISTA, YOU KNOW, POPULATION CENTERS THAT ARE SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER OR WOULD IT BE, UH, A DENSE DOWNTOWN PHOENIX? I'M, I'M, BECAUSE AGAIN, I, I WOULD SAY THERE'S SOME SKEWED I, I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO APPLY IF, IF YOU
DO YOU SEE WHERE IT'S COMING FROM? IF I WAS IN UH, UH, SOME LITTLE TOWN, SO BRING THAT BACK TO ME AGAIN FOR THIS AREA.
'CAUSE AGAIN THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING DOESN'T QUITE RESONATE WITH ME.
SO APPLY IT AGAIN TO THIS AREA.
SO I WOULD SAY IF ANYTHING THIS FALLS IN LINE WITH THAT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S MUCH MORE RURAL, THAT'S WHEN WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE MINIMUMS OR MAXIMUMS OR WE LOOK AT OUTLINE DATA POINTS BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE ISN'T A POPULATION TO PULL FROM, RIGHT? OR WE LOOK AT SOMEWHERE, LET'S JUST SAY IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF NEW YORK, WHICH I GUESS YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT, BUT IT'S A WALKABLE AREA.
WE WOULD LOOK TO FACTOR THAT DOWN IF ANYTHING.
BUT THIS IS THE STARTING POINT.
SO THE SAME FORMULA AND METHODOLOGY AND AVERAGE THAT I USED FOR THE QUICKTRIP IS ALSO THE SAME THAT I USED FOR THE FAST FOOD AND ALL THE OTHER CALCULATIONS.
SO ACROSS THE BOARD IT'S THE SAME.
NO REDUCTIONS WERE TAKEN OR INFLATIONS WERE TAKEN.
SO THOSE MAY OR NOT MAY NOT BE ACCURATE NUMBERS, THEY ARE APPROXIMATIONS, RIGHT? IT GIVES US A MAGNITUDE OF IT.
NOW THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS AND HUMANS WHO CHOOSE TO TURN LEFT AND RIGHT ON A A GIVEN DAY.
THEY CERTAINLY ARE YOUR APPROXIMATIONS.
OKAY, SO LET ME RESTATE IN MY HEAD WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY.
IF IT WAS THREE-FOURTHS OF THAT, IT WOULD BE THREE-FOURTHS OF THAT FOR EACH OF THOSE OTHERS SO THAT THE COMPARISONS BETWEEN THE TWO ARE ACCURATE, BUT THE NUMBERS THEMSELVES MIGHT BE MORE OR LESS DEPENDING.
I MEAN I'VE LIVED IN SOME CITIES WHERE I'VE LAID DOWN AND LOOKED AT STARS OR TOWNS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY BECAUSE THERE'S NO TRAFFIC, UH, REALLY RURAL PLACES AND THIS WOULDN'T.
BUT EVEN IN THOSE IT MIGHT BE 10 CARS THAT WOULD GO IN HERE AND 12 CARS TO A DONUT PLACE IS WHAT YOU'RE KIND OF SAYING.
AND THAT'S THE NUMBERS AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE WOULD TAKE OUR CALCULATION.
LET'S JUST SAY FOR EXAMPLE, QUICK TRIP WERE TO BE IN THOSE TYPE OF SITUATIONS, WE WOULD APPLY FACTORS AND REDUCE IT AND SAY IT'S NOT IN A TYPICAL SITUATION, IT COULDN'T GENERATE 4,000 TRIPS 'CAUSE THERE'S NOT 4,000 PEOPLE.
THAT, THAT HELPS ME QUITE A BIT.
COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, I THINK I'VE SEEN THIS ONE.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBER
UM, SPEAKING OF TRIPS IN NEW TRIPS AND THOSE NUMBERS WITH TRAFFIC, WHICH IS ONE OF MY MAIN, UH, CONCERNS HERE IS I WANTED TO DO KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE THE NUMBERS IN COMPARISON OF THE NEWEST QT HERE IN CHANDLER ON CHANDLER BOULEVARD MCQUEEN TO SEE WHAT THE COMPARISON WAS PRIOR TO THAT BEING BUILT AND THE NEW NUMBERS NOW WITH THAT BEING BUILT AND THE TRAFFIC, WHETHER THE NUMBERS INCREASED, DECREASED, STAYED THE SAME.
IF YOU GUYS CAN SPEAK TO THAT OR CITY STAFF, WHICHEVER.
UH, ABSOLUTELY I'D BE HAPPY TO.
AND YOUR TIMING IS IMPECCABLE.
SO
SO THIS IS A REAL LIFE CASE STUDY OF CHANDLER AND MCQUEEN AND WE PRESENTED THIS, UH, AT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING THAT WE HELD ON THE THIRD.
UM, IF YOU, EVEN IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ANY TRAFFIC ENGINEER THAT ANALYZES AND DOES THIS AS A PROFESSION, THIS IS REAL DATA.
UH, IN 2022, THERE ARE TRAFFIC COUNTS DONE BEFORE THE QT WAS BUILT AND IT WAS FI 52,800 VEHICLES PER DAY AT THAT INTERSECTION.
UM, AFTER THE QT WAS BUILT, TRAFFIC COUNTS WERE TAKEN AND THAT WAS 53,375 VEHICLES PER DAY, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF 1% BETWEEN PRE AND POST QT BEING DEVELOPED.
AND IT'S A DEMONSTRATION OF THERE BEING JUST A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF PASS BY TRIPS THAT GO TO QT, NOT NEW TRIPS GENERATED ON THE ROADWAYS.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER? NOTHING MAYOR? NO, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS SIR.
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THOSE NUMBERS.COUNCILMAN ORLANDO? YEAH, SO I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO LOOK.
UM, WERE THOSE AVERAGES WE PRESENTED EARLIER OR WERE THEY HIGH? UH, WHAT WAS THE OR THE MEANS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT TRAFFIC DATA, WHAT EXACTLY WILL YOU TRYING TO EXPRESS THERE? MAYOR COUNCILMAN ORLANDO? THE, SO THE NUMBERS THAT WE LOOK AT ARE AVERAGE WEEKDAY VOLUMES AVERAGE OVER THE COURSE OF A DAY, THE AVERAGE DAY.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS, EXCUSE ME.
DO WE HAVE OUR OWN, UH, TRAFFIC ENGINEER IN HERE? NO.
CAN WE PLEASE? WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU MR. GREATHOUSE.
I WOULD LIKE YOU TO TAKE ME TO THAT SAME SCENARIO WITH WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR THAT CORNER WHEN IT COMES TO THE TRAFFIC AND ALSO THE AMOUNT OF, UH, PASSING BY.
THAT WILL STOP, UH, VISIBLY AT, UH, QT VERSUS, UH, KEEP ON GOING ON EACH SIDE OF THE CORNER, WHETHER IT IS GOING TO BE THE, THE, THE CHEVRON OR IS IT GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, EAST, WEST, NORTH, SOUTH? UH, YEAH.
UM, FOR MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, ALICE, SO THE PASS BY NUMBER THAT TALKS ABOUT IT, IT IS THE NUMBER THAT GETTING FROM THE NATIONAL MANUAL.
AND IN GENERAL, WE DON'T SPECIFY WHAT, UH, GAS STATION, WHETHER IT'S A QT OR SHARE PHONE.
THEY JUST SPECIFY IF IT'S A GAS STATIONS, THIS IS THE PA, UH, PASS BY THEY WILL USE.
AND THE NUMBER THAT JUST, UH, SHOW ON THE, UH, ON THE SCREEN FOR THE NEW GAS STATIONS, A NEW QT ON, UM, CHANNEL AND MCQUEEN.
THOSE ARE THE ACCURATE NUMBER THAT FROM OUR, UH, COLLECT DATA.
NOW WITH THE RAY AND DAWSON, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS IT THAT YOUR STUDY SHOWED, UH, FOR HAVING THAT QT RIGHT THERE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE CHEVRON? WHAT WILL BE THE CAPACITY THAT WE CAN BUILD ON THAT ROAD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALLOW THAT TRAFFIC, THE PASS BY TRAFFIC TO CONTINUE MOVING VERY FLUENTLY.
AND THEN ALSO IF THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY STOP BY WILL THAT IMPEDE THE FLOWING OF THE TRAFFIC IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM.
UM, THROUGH THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER ALICE? YES.
AT THE, UH, RAY AND DOBSON, IT WILL BE THE SAME TYPE OF, UH, PASS BY AND IN THE ADDITION AFTER THE, UH, CIP PROJECT THAT, UM, COMPLETE, THERE WILL BE A MEDIAN ON DOBSON.
SO IT WILL RESTRICT THE LEFT TURN IN ON NORTHBOUND AS WELL.
SO THERE WILL BE LESS OF, UM, MOVEMENT ON, ON THAT LEG.
SO THE, AGAIN, GO BACK TO THE PASS BY TRAFFIC, IT WILL BE THE SAME PERCENTAGE, WHETHER IT IS IN, UH, THE NEW LOCATION OR THE ONE ON CHANDLER AND QUE.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR TRAFFIC? YES.
SO ON THIS 5 75 NEW TRIPS, UM, SIGNIFICANTLY ARE WE TYING THAT TO THE QT.
IT'S ONLY LESS THAN A YEAR OR ABOUT A YEAR, UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER ON ORLANDO, WE DON'T KNOW.
THE WAY THAT WE CONDUCT OUR TRAFFIC COUNT IS WE PUT A COUNTER ON EACH OF THE FOUR LEGS.
WE JUST COUNT THE TOTAL NUMBER, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY GO INTO, UH, QUICKTRIP OR NOT.
SO HAVE WE HAD ANY, UH, ANY MAJOR HOUSING CONSTRUCTION THAT AREA? UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO? WE DON'T HAVE WE HAD ANY NEW BUSINESS THAT OPENED UP THAT AREA? UH, NO, WE DON'T.
THERE'S A GREAT CHURCH ACROSS THE STREET.
HAVE WE HAD ANY NEW CHURCHES ACROSS THE STREET?
THERE'S ONE, BUT I NOT, SO WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY MAJOR, UH, BUILDUP BUILDING SINCE THE QT WENT IN.
WE, WE DO HAVE ANDY'S CUSTARD.
THAT WOULD D THAT THAT, UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO STERS OPEN AFTER I KNOW WE, UH, COLLECT THE DATA.
AND I WOULD EVEN, YOU KNOW, I EVEN WONDER BETWEEN 22 AND 23, I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE ASCRIBE MUCH OF STILL COMING OUT OF COVID IN 22, OR ARE WE THOROUGHLY IS, FROM YOUR OPINION, WERE THE ROADS BACK TO, UH, FULL CAPACITY AND NOT IMPACTED BY MORE PEOPLE WORKING AT HOME? HAS THERE BEEN ANY CHANGE THAT, THAT YOU COULD ASCRIBE TO BETWEEN THESE TWO YEARS IN TRAFFIC THAT WOULD AFFECT THAT? UH, MAYOR.
SO WE SEE THE SIGNIFICANT DECREASE IN 2020 AND 2021.
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ALMOST PRE PANDEMIC, BUT NOT QUITE THERE YET.SO, BUT IT'S ALMOST BACK TO PRE PANDEMIC, BUT THERE'S NO, SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AT LEAST FOR HERE, IT DOES NOT SEEM TO BE, IT'S EITHER, IT COULD BE QT, IT COULD BE ANDES.
IT, IT COULD BE THEY'RE ABOUT THE SAME DISTANCE ALMOST FROM THE FREEWAY.
SO IT'S, IT'S HARD TO SAY, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT MASSIVE IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MARTINEZ, ONE QUICK QUESTION.
UM, FOR THE CIP PROJECT THAT'S GONNA BE COMING IN 2026, UM, YOU GUYS JUST HAD A SLIDER.
I THINK THE APPLICANT HAD THIS SLIDE, UM, ON RAILROAD HEADING SOUTH.
THAT ENTRY RIGHT NOW, THAT MEDIAN, IS THAT MEDIAN GONNA REMAIN OR IS IT GONNA END UP BEING SOLID BECAUSE THERE IS AN ENTRY POINT THERE TO TURN LEFT INTO THE TUDOR TIME AREA? SO I'M JUST WONDERING HOW MUCH IS THAT GONNA BE USED AS AN ACCESS POINT FROM PEOPLE HEADING EAST? AND DOES THAT CIP JUST 'CAUSE I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T SEE IT RIGHT NOW.
DOES THAT GET CLOSED UP? IS IT REMAINING THERE? HOW DOES THAT, LOOKING THROUGH THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER? ENA? UH, YES.
UH, THE CIP BUDGET WOULD NOT TOUCH THAT, UH, ACCESS.
AND I'D SAY ALMOST SIMILAR THERE IS, THERE'S A LEFT HAND ACCESS SOUTH OF HERE TO QT THAT BEYOND THAT TOO.
SO I GUESS PRETTY SIMILAR THERE.
CONSTABLE STEWART, QUICK QUESTION.
WILL THE BUS BARN OR THE, UH, WILL THAT BE MOVED OR WILL THAT REMAIN UH, UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, STEWART, THE BUS, UH, WILL HAVE A, UH, REMAIN IN THE SAME PROXIMATE LOCATIONS, BUT THERE WILL BE A, UM, A BULK IN SO THE BUS CAN PULL IN.
UM, 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S ON THE THROUGH LANE, BUT WE ARE STILL UNDER DESIGN.
UM, WE ARE ONE OF THE 10 SCENARIO, WE DON'T KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE FINAL DESIGN YET, BUT AT LEAST THE, THE IDEA IS TO HAVE THE BUS BAY IN THE SAME SAME PROXIMITY LOCATION WITH ALL THESE TRAFFIC EXPERTS HERE.
SO IF A BUS PULLS IN AND SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO PULL IT AROUND IT TO GO INTO THE QT, IS THAT GONNA CAUSE SOME HEARTACHE FOR, FOR THE TWO? LIKE, I'M JUST THINKING IN COMMON SENSE, LIKE IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD CREATE SOME COLLISION.
WOULD WE WANNA MOVE THE BUS STOP? AND IS THAT EVEN A FE IS THAT EVEN FEASIBLE? UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER? UH, SIR, I, I BELIEVE THE BUS SPACE IN THE SOUTH OF THE, UH, UM, BRA ROAD OR IS THAT THE, ARE YOU TALK REFERRING THE ONE THAT GOOGLE MAP? I WAS JUST LOOKING AT GOOGLE MAPS AND I SAW THE BUS STOP AND THEN, AND ONE OF THE OTHER EARLIER SLIDES, IT WAS A BUS STOP AS WELL.
YEAH, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THAT.
SO THEY WERE, THEY WERE, THEY WERE REQUIRE A DESAL LANE INTO A QUICKTRIP THAT WILL BE COMBINED WITH THE BUS, UH, BUS BAY.
AND JUST LIKE ANY OTHER COMBINED, UH, THERE WILL BE A BUS, IF THERE'S A BUS THERE, AND CAR WILL JUST, YOU KNOW, GO AROUND.
SO, SO MOVING THE BUS STOP'S NOT AN OPTION.
YEAH, IT'S NOT AT, AT LEAST RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT ON THE, ON THE DESIGN, SO.
WOULD IT, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO DO THAT IF WE, IF THIS WERE APPROVED? UH, THAT, THAT COULD BE, THAT COULD BE, UM, DETERMINED BY THE TEAM AND, OKAY.
I WOULD, I WOULD TRUST TRAFFIC FOLKS AND NOT US TO, YEAH, HE'S RIGHT THERE.
WELL, THERE, THERE'S THE WHOLE COMPANY WITH MAG AND, UH, SO MAG MAG DECIDES WHERE THE BUS STOPS GO.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR OUR TRAFFIC, MAN? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
UM, NOW THAT WE'VE ALL GOT THREE EDUCATIONAL CREDITS TOWARDS OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERING DEGREES, WOULD YOU MIND IF I MOVED ON TO THE SAFETY COMPONENTS? PLEASE DO.
SO WE'VE BEEN ASKED ABOUT QTS, UM, SAFETY POLICIES AND TRAININGS FOR THEIR, FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES SINCE OUR FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WE HELD WITH, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, WHAT WE, WHAT I LEARNED BY TALKING WITH QT IS THEY, THEY, THEY TRAIN THEIR EMPLOYEES WITH A VERY FINITE POLICY.
AND IT'S BE FRIENDLY WITH PEOPLE ON THE SITE, BE FAIR WITH THEM, AND BE VERY FIRM WITH THEM.
IF THE POLICE NEED TO BE CALLED, THE POLICE GET CALLED.
UM, THEY, THEY TALK A LOT WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WALK INTO THE STORES.
IF YOU'VE WALKED INTO A STORE, YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER SOMEONE SAYING, WELCOME IN, OR WELCOME INTO QT.
AND THERE'S EMPLOYEES WALKING AROUND THE STORE, CLEANING THINGS, TALKING TO PEOPLE.
THEY'RE OUT TAKING THE WASTE BASKETS WHEN THEY GET FILLED UP, THROWING 'EM OUT.
WHEN THEY'RE OUT ON THE SITE, THEY'RE TALKING WITH PEOPLE.
IT'S ALL PART OF THE, UM, PROCESS OF WATCHING THEFT AND OTHER TYPES OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES THAT OCCUR ON THE SITE.
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IT'S GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE.UM, THEY HAVE VERY STRICT POLICIES ON ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO SALES THROUGH TRAINING AND THROUGH IMPLEMENTATION.
UM, AND THEY COORDINATE REGULARLY WITH, WITH LOCAL POLICE.
UH, O OFTENTIMES WHEN I PULL INTO A QT, I SEE POLICE CARS THERE, UM, GETTING THEIR DRINKS OR WHATEVER THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING THERE.
UM, THEY'RE ALSO DESIGNATE THEIR STORES AS A SAFE PLACE.
WHAT THAT IS, IS A PLACE WHERE A, A YOUTH AT RISK CAN GO, LET'S SAY SOMEONE'S STRUGGLING WITH SOME DOMI DOMESTIC ABUSE PROBLEMS AT HOME.
THEY CAN LEAVE THAT HOME AND GO WALK TO QT AND QT WILL GET THEM IN TOUCH WITH THE RIGHT ORGANIZATION THAT CAN HELP THAT, THAT YOUTH AT RISK.
UH, ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE, THERE WILL BE 22 CAMERAS INSTALLED.
AND WHAT THAT WILL DO IS PROVIDE SURVEILLANCE ACROSS 98% OF THE SITE.
UM, THIS, THIS SITE PLAN, UM, FOLLOWS AND QTS DESIGN AND THEIR OPERATIONS, UH, FOLLOW CHANDLER POLICE DEPARTMENT'S SEP HEAD PRINCIPLES, WHICH IS CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BULLET POINTS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THIS SLIDE RELATE TO NATURAL ACCESS CONTROL, NATURAL SURVEILLANCE, TERRITORIAL REINFORCEMENT ACTIVITY THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.
UH, QT DOES ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
THEIR, THEIR CASHIER IS ORIENTED TOWARDS THE FRONT OF THE STORE.
SO WHEN YOU WALK IN, YOU GET GREETED.
UM, THEY'RE ACTIVELY TALKING WITH CUSTOMERS FOLLOWING THESE PRINCIPLES.
UH, EMPLOYEES ARE WALKING AROUND THE SITE CLEANING AND DOING DIFFERENT THINGS, AND THEY DEFINITELY HAVE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE.
I ACTUALLY, I JUST REMEMBERED MY QUESTION THAT I HAD PROBABLY FOR ONE OF THE CHIEFS, BUT MAYBE YOU, WE CAN ASK IT.
BUT IN TERMS OF THE, GO BACK, IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE OTHER SLIDE RIGHT QUICK PLEASE.
SO I KNOW THAT THERE'S SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS AND UM, UH, AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THIS WORKS, BUT I KNOW WE DO IT IN CHANDLER WHERE SOMETIMES WE'RE ABLE TO TAP INTO THE CCTV UH, FEED.
AND I WANTED TO KNOW, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE ACCESS TO? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS A PART OF THE COORDINATION WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR CAMERA FEES AND, AND WHEN THERE'S EMERGENCIES AND WHEN THERE THINGS IS GOING ON SO WE CAN CAPTURE REAL CRIME, REAL TIME CRIME? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UM, THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO AND PARTNER WITH LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS VERY REGULARLY.
WE HAVE A GROUP OF, UM, PEOPLE THAT IS THEIR ONLY JOB.
THEY'LL INTERACT AND INTERFACE WITH POLICE AND PROVIDE THE CAMERA FOOTAGES NEEDED FOR THEIR PROSECUTION OR WHATEVER THEY NEED IT FOR.
SO WE HAVE A WHOLE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT THAT'S ALL THEY DO.
UM, SO, SO IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS HAPPENING, UM, POLICE IS ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE FOOTAGE.
DO THEY, UM, IS, IS THERE A REAL TIME, I GUESS WHAT MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT I KNOW THAT THEY PROBABLY PROVIDE THAT, BUT IS THERE A REAL TIME ACCESS OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT HAVING REAL TIME ACCESS SO WE CAN TAP RIGHT INTO YOUR FEED VERSUS HAVING TO SHOW UP AND THEN GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS? IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? IS THAT SOMETHING YOU DO NOW OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE OPEN TO? UM, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND I WOULD'VE TO FIND THE ANSWER.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE EVER GIVEN SOMEONE DIRECT ACCESS.
I KNOW WE WOULD GIVE YOU WHATEVER YOU GUYS NEED.
WE DO HAVE LIVE ACCESS TO THOSE CAMERAS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE EVER SHARED THAT OR HAD A WAY FOR YOU TO TAP INTO OUR SYSTEM FOR THAT.
I I THINK I, I, I THINK AS WE SET UP A REAL LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF A REAL TIME CRIME CENTER, THAT'S, THAT MIGHT BE AN ASK ARE, ARE, ARE A POSSIBILITY IN THE FUTURE.
AM I, AM I RIGHT ON THAT? YEAH.
DO YOU HAVE MY CONTACT INFORMATION? WHEN YOU'RE READY, GIMME A CALL AND I'LL PUT YOU IN TOUCH WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
OKAY, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, IF I MAY, I AM GOING TO MOVE ON TO SCHOOLS BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ASKED ABOUT HOW THIS WILL IMPACT THE SCHOOLS IN THE AREA.
UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, BECAUSE I THINK YOU'VE SEEN THE EMAIL FROM THE, THE PRINCIPAL OF SETON, UM, WE'VE MET WITH THE PRINCIPAL AND ANOTHER HIGH RANKING INDIVIDUAL OF THE CATHOLIC DIOCESE.
UH, WE, DANIEL ANSWERED THEIR QUESTIONS REGARDING OPERATIONS AND PROCEDURES AND POLICIES WITH THEIR OPERATIONS.
UM, WE WALKED OUT OF THERE AND I ASKED THEM IN THE, IN THE PARKING LOT, WHAT CAN WE TELL, UH, THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND OTHER NEIGHBORS THAT WE TALK WITH? AND I WAS TOLD WE CAN TELL THAT EVERYBODY THAT THEY HAVE NO FURTHER CONCERNS OR, OR OBJECTIONS TO QT.
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WHAT, LIKE FOUR OR FIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH TUTOR TIME.UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT WE'VE OFFERED THEM IS TO PROVIDE WAVE FINDING SIGNAGE, UM, ADD IN SOME NO PARKING SIGNAGE OR T TIME ONLY TYPE PARKING SIGNAGE ON THE TUTOR TIME SITE IF, IF NECESSARY.
UM, WE'VE OFFERED ADD IN SOME SPEED BUMPS FOR THEM.
AND AS OF TODAY, I JUST SAW AN EMAIL FROM, UM, ASHLEY AT TUTOR TIME TO DANIEL SAYING, YEAH, WE'D APPRECIATE SOME SPEED BUMPS.
UM, AND WE'VE OFFERED TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL LIGHTING BY THE, THE TUTOR TIME DUMPSTER.
THIS IS MY LAST SLIDE, SO BE, BEFORE YOU GO THERE, LET ME JUST ASK AN OBVIOUS QUESTION.
IS TUTOR TIME, HAS THIS MET THEIR CONCERNS? I KNOW YOU'VE MADE, IT SOUNDS LIKE SOME CONCESSIONS, BUT YOU MADE A STATEMENT ABOUT SETON, WHERE DID, WAS TUTOR TIME SAYING YOU'VE MET OUR CONCERNS AS WELL? DANIEL HAD THE MOST RECENT CONVERSATION WITH HIM.
UM, I SPOKE TODAY WITH ASHLEY TEAGUE, WHO IS THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE TUTOR TIME.
AND, UM, WHEN WE BROUGHT THE SPEED BUMPS UP, SHE SAID THAT, THAT THAT WOULD ADDRESS ONE OF HER MAIN CONCERNS.
AND THE OTHER ONE WAS ADDING THE LIGHT AT THE DUMPSTER.
THOSE WERE HER TWO BIG CONCERNS THAT WE WOULD ADDRESS BY DOING THOSE.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA DO THOSE AT THE TIME OF, OF BUILDING, OF THE QUICKTRIP FOR THEM THEN.
SO WHY QUICKTRIP, WHAT'S, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT NEGATIVE THINGS.
WHY QUICKTRIP? I MEAN, THEY'RE THE, THEY'RE THE BEST IN CLASS, UM, GAS STATION PROVIDER, AND THEY'RE MORE, MORE THAN JUST A GAS STATION.
THEY HAVE A, A KITCHEN WHERE THEY MAKE FRESH FOODS LIKE GRILLED CHEESE SANDWICHES AND CROISSANT SANDWICHES.
THEY HAVE SPECIALTY COFFEES, ICE TEA, ICE TEAS, SMOOTHIES, AND ICE CREAM.
UH, THIS SITE WILL EMPLOY DOZENS OF WORKERS WHERE, UM, NO EMPLOYMENT IS BEING GENERATED ON THE SITE TODAY.
UM, AND IT'LL PROVIDE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF SALES TAX REVENUE TO THE CITY, WHICH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IS YOUR LIFELINE TO, UM, PROVIDING CITY SERVICES.
UM, AND IT'LL MAKE A GOOD USE OF AN KIND OF A RUNDOWN OLD BUILDING THAT'S HAD A STRUGGLE FINDING A GOOD USER.
UM, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S, IT'S A LOW TECH TRAFFIC GENERATOR COMPARED TO OTHER USES THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED ON THE SITE.
WITH THAT, WE REQUEST YOUR, UH, APPROVAL HERE TONIGHT IN ACCORDANCE WITH YOUR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION, AND THE, UH, 1300 LETTERS IN IN SUPPORT FROM CHANDLER RESIDENTS.
YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, JUST TO LET THE, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW THAT I, UM, I DID REACH OUT TO THE PRINCIPAL OF SETON AND HE WAS, HE WAS FOR IT.
HE LET ME KNOW THAT, UM, SETON IS FOR IT.
YEAH, THAT, THAT JUST HAPPENED JUST LITERALLY RIGHT NOW.
COUNCIL, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS TO THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT, ONE, ONE QUICK ONE.
SO WHERE TWO SO TUBE TIME YOU SAID CONCESSIONS DID, WAS I DIDN'T SEE A SUPPORT LETTER FROM THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? I KNOW OF NO ACTUAL SUPPORT LETTER OR ANYTHING IN WRITING STATING THEIR SUPPORT.
DID THEY OFFER ANY SORT OF REASON WHY THEY DIDN'T WANNA DO THAT? THEY DIDN'T, LET'S LET MARK ANSWER IT.
UM, SHE DIDN'T IN TALKING WITH HER, UM, WE DON'T NECESSARILY GO AND SOLICIT FOR HER TO GET A SUPPORT LETTER.
WE JUST WANTED TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR WITH HER AND FIND OUT WHAT THEIR CONCERNS WOULD BE AND HOW WE CAN MITIGATE THEM TO, UM, JUST BEST WE ANTICIPATE HAVING A GOOD LONG RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.
AND, UM, SO WE JUST WANTED TO GO FIND OUT WHAT THEY NEEDED, BUT WE WEREN'T NECESSARILY SEEKING ANY SUPPORT LETTER.
SO THOSE ARE THE, SHE BROUGHT UP THE ITEMS. UM, WE HAD THE COMMUNICATION AND I COPIED BEN ON ALL THE COMMUNICATION WITH HER.
SO THE THREE OF US THERE, JUST TO KEEP TRANSPARENCY THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS WITH THE CITY AND EVERYTHING, BUT OKAY.
SO IF THIS IS APPROVED, ARE YOU GONNA PUT THAT AS A STIPULATION IN THERE TO WORK WITH THE TUTOR TIME? YES.
WE'RE HAPPY TO ACCEPT A STIPULATION IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S WHAT'S NECESSARY.
AND I'VE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH KEVIN MAYO ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
JUST SO THE CITY ATTORNEY KNOWS THAT THERE, IF THERE IS A MOTION MADE HERE TO PROVE THIS, WE WILL, WE HAVE 'EM ON RECORD.
THEY'LL PUT THAT AS A STIPULATION.
SO, SO LET ME, BEFORE I GO HERE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, IS THERE ANYTHING SPECIFIC ABOUT THAT OR? NO, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROMISES MADE ON THE SLIDE WOULD BE TRANSLATED INTO A LEGAL STIPULATION THAT IF THERE IS A MOTION MADE HERE, LET'S MAKE SURE THEY'RE WILLING TO PUT THAT IN WRITING AND WE COULD GO BACK OUR STEP, GO BACK TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO SATISFY TUTOR TIMES CONCERNS.
COULD I, COULD I MAYBE TAKE THAT A LITTLE MORE
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SUBSTANCE IF I MIGHT, UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS ALSO, UM, SOMETIMES WITH OTHER ZONING, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS SOMEONE THERE THAT WOULD BE RESPONSIVE IMMEDIATELY TO, AND I ASSUME THERE IS WITH A MANAGER, BUT IF THERE'S A, YOU, YOU MENTIONED IT BEING A SAFE PLACE FOR KIDS OR WHATEVER, BUT IF TUTOR TIME OR IF OTHER NEIGHBORS, UM, HAVE SOME ISSUES OR COMPLAINTS, IS THERE THE ASSURANCE THAT SOMEONE WILL ADDRESS, ANSWER, REACH BACK OUT TO THEM AS WELL? I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SOMEWHAT ASKING.AM I CORRECT? NO, I'M NOT ASKING THAT AT ALL.
AND MAKE SURE IF THAT DOES GET APPROVED, I'M NOT SAYING IT WILL BE, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE MOTION MAKER AND THE SECOND ADDS THAT STIPULATION THAT THOSE FOUR ITEMS WILL BE ADDED TO AS A STIPULATION.
THAT YOU'LL DO THOSE FOUR THINGS FOR TWO TO TIME SO THAT OUR STAFF, IF THEY'RE NOT BEING DONE, COULD THEN WORK WITH YOU TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE DONE.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IN GENERAL RELATIONSHIP.
MUST BE IN MY NEW JERSEY ACCENT WHEN I SAID TWO AT A TIME, I MUST HAVE PUSHED OVER IT.
COUNCIL MEMBER, I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO THOSE FOUR SPECIFIC THINGS, SO.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? ONE, MAYOR, JUST A QUICK ONE, UM, REALLY QUICK, JUST 'CAUSE THIS IS JUST BEING PRESENTED TO US, THESE LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM THE BUSINESSES, ARE THESE THE BUSINESS OWNERS? IS IT MANAGEMENT? IS IT JUST AN EMPLOYEE? DO YOU KNOW WHO SIGNED THESE LETTERS? COUNCIL MEMBER, IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO BRING UP THE, UM, INDIVIDUAL WHO OBTAINED THE SIGNATURE, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.
I BELIEVE THERE'S A BUSINESS CARD OF EVERY PERSON STAPLED TO THE SUPPORT LETTER.
SOME OF THEM HAD DONE JUST GOT, IF YOU KNEW OFF THE DOCK.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, ENCINAS.
MY NAME'S KRISTA BETE AND I WAS THE ONE THAT, UM, TALKED WITH THE BUSINESSES.
UM, IT WAS EITHER A GENERAL MANAGER OR OWNER.
JUST WANTED ONE CLARIFI CLARIFI WITHOUT BUSINESS CARDS, JUST DON'T CARRY BUSINESS CARDS.
DID YOU SAY OWNERS? UH, IF THE OWNER WAS PRESENT, SOME OF THOSE ARE SMALL BUSINESSES, SO I WAS ABLE TO TALK WITH A LOT OF THE OWNERS.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COUNSEL, BEFORE WE, UM, INVITE OUR, UH, CITIZENS TO SPEAK? ALRIGHT.
UM, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT ABOUT EIGHT COMMENT CARDS AND FOR MY QUICK PERLE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE COVERED BY THE SPEAKERS.
AND, AND AGAIN, THESE WILL BE WRITTEN IN AS PART OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND, AND, UH, RELATED TO THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I'M GOING TO, UM, IN THE ORDER THAT THESE WERE BROUGHT UP TO ME, I'M GOING TO INVITE PEOPLE UP.
IF YOU WILL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
AND AGAIN, YOU HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES AND, UH, AGAIN, I'M, I'M GONNA BE PRETTY HARD ON THE, WHEN IT TURNS RED, PLEASE, UH, TIME TO VACATE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, I THINK WITH ONE OR TWO YOU'VE ASKED FOR, UM, SOME POWERPOINT AND, UH, I, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
UH, BUT AGAIN, IT'S, IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU MORE TIME.
AND REGARDLESS IF YOU'RE EXPLAINING YOUR POWERPOINT, YOU STILL GOT THREE MINUTES, UH, COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
UM, SO JUST LINGER AFTER YOUR TIME IS OVER, UH, UNTIL WE INVITE SOMEBODY ELSE UP.
SO AT THIS POINT, LET ME INVITE UP THE FIRST PERSON WHO BROUGHT IN A SPEAKER CARD.
AGAIN, MR. MILLER, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES.
AND COULD WE MAYBE GET THAT OTHER PILE OF YEAH, THOSE, LET'S GET THOSE OUT OF HIS WAY.
UM, MAYOR, QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.
MY SON'S MY IT GUY AND, AND SO HE, HE'S ALSO A SPEAKER, BUT YEAH, IF I COULD, I KNOW, I KNOW YOU ASKED THIS LAST TIME AND I, MY CLARIFYING WAS I'LL GIVE YOU EACH THREE MINUTES RATHER THAN OKAY, WELL, WELL THEN I'LL HAND HIM, YOU CAN TEXT, WE CAN FINISH.
SO CAN THE LIGHT, CAN THE LIGHTS BE ON PLEASE? ALRIGHT.
FIRST ONE QUICK, JUST COMMENT.
I SENT THIS TO ALL OF YOU A WHILE BACK.
IT'S A LETTER FROM TUTOR TIME.
ASHLEY, WE AT TUTOR TIME ADAMANTLY DO NOT SUPPORT THIS USE.
SO THIS IS IN WRITING FROM THEM.
I JUST SPOKE TO THE OTHER ADMINISTRATOR, GENERAL MANAGER AT FOUR O'CLOCK TODAY DRIVING IN ROSA ANO AND A 100%, UH, SUPPORT US AND DO NOT, UH, SUPPORT QT
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ON THEIR CORNER BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY FOR THEIR CHILDREN.SO I'VE GOT IT IN WRITING AND I JUST SPOKE TO 'EM VERBALLY.
SO I'D LIKE TO START YOU'RE, YOU'VE ALREADY 30 SECONDS IN.
HEY, UM, MY NAME IS DAVID MILLER AND MY WIFE SHELLEY AND MY SON BRYCE, HAVE BEEN THE OWNERS OF THE MARKET CHEVRON FOR OVER 28 YEARS.
WE ARE THE MEMBERS OF THE ANDERSON SPRINGS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND ARE VERY VESTED IN OUR COMMUNITY AND ITS SAFETY.
WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO OBJECT TO THE REZONING OF THE NORTHWEST CORNER DOBSON ARRAY, WHICH WILL ALLOW QUICKTRIP TO BUILD A LARGE CORPORATE GAS STATION IN A WEEK.
LEADING UP TO THE FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING IN OCTOBER LAST YEAR, WE GATHERED OVER 500 SIGNATURES THAT OPPOSED THE REZONING FROM RESIDENTS THAT LIVE, WORK, AND HAVE CHILDREN ATTENDING SCHOOL IN THE AREA.
AS AN ANDERSON SPRINGS, HOA MEMBER FOR 28 YEARS, I AM HERE TODAY TO SPEAK AND TO REPRESENT HUNDREDS OF RESIDENTS I HAVE SPOKEN TO OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS SINCE THE NOTICE REZONE WAS POSTED.
YOUR DECISION TODAY CARRIES PROFOUND IMPLICATIONS FOR THE SAFETY, WELLBEING AND FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY, FAMILIES AND CHILDREN.
I ASK YOU CAREFULLY TO CONSIDER ARGUMENTS AGAINST THIS DEVELOPMENT SCHOOLS, BOTH TUTOR TIME AND SETON PREPARATORY SCHOOL SHARE COMMON PROPERTY LINES WITH QUICK QUICK TRIPS.
PROPOSED LOCATION, ANDERSON ELEMENTARY AND JUNIOR HIGH ARE BOTH JUST UP THE STREET.
CHILDREN COMMONLY WALK AND RIDE THEIR BACKS PAST A PROPOSED QUICK TRIP LOCATION.
IN ADDITION, PARENTS DROP OFF AND PICK UP THEIR CHILDREN AT THE SAME TIME.
GAS STATIONS HAVE THEIR GREATEST AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.
THE PEAK PERIODS, THE DANGER THIS WILL BRING TO FAMILIES AND CHILDREN IS UNACCEPTABLE.
THE INTERSECTION OF DOBSON RAY CURRENTLY HAS 64,600 CARS PER DAY TRAVELING THROUGH IT.
IT'S BEEN RANKED THE THIRD MOST DANGEROUS INTERSECTION IN CHANDLER.
THERE'S ALMOST WEEKLY ACCIDENTS.
AND JUST UP TO THIS MEETING, I'VE WITNESSED ABOUT SEVEN SINCE THE CONTINUATION OF THE LAST ONE.
QUICKTRIP WILL BRING AN INFLUX OF TRAFFIC WITH CARS TURNING IN AND OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAYS, WHICH WILL PUT MOTORISTS AND CHILDREN IN DANGER.
THE TRAFFIC STUDY DONE BY QUICKTRIP CONSULTANT PRESENTS SERIOUS FLAWS AND OMISSIONS AS HIGHLIGHTED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS CONDUCTED BY A GL TRAFFIC ENGINEERINGS ALBERT LUKAS.
WE HAVE PROVIDED YOU WITH THAT STUDY SINCE ONE QUICK TRIP, SINCE THE ONE QUICK TRIP HAD DONE WAS SO INCOMPLETE AND ONLY ADDRESSED PART ONE TRIP GENERATION AND NOT PARTS TWO AND THREE, TRIP DISTRIBUTION AND TRAFFIC IMPACT THAT THERE, THAT ARE REQUIRED IN A TRAFFIC STUDY.
HIS FINDINGS UNDERSCORE ALBERTS THE GRAVE INADEQUACY OF THE LETTER WRITTEN BY QUICKTRIP.
THANK YOU MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I, UM, I, I KNOW YOU'RE RUNNING THIS MEETING AND I RESPECT THAT.
UM, WE GAVE THE APPLICANT ALMOST AN HOUR, AND THESE GENTLEMEN HAVE A DETAILED ENGINEERING REPORT HERE, AND I'D REALLY LIKE TO STEP THROUGH THIS WITHOUT HAVING TO RAPIDLY EX ANSWER EVERY OTHER QUE ANSWER YOU'RE MAKING.
SO, UM, IN DUE TO RESPECT, I'D REALLY LIKE TO HEAR THIS TRAFFIC REPORT IF SPECIFICALLY, SPECIFICALLY IF IT HAS ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT THE, IN THE OWNER THAT WE JUST HEARD ABOUT 30 MINUTES OF HER PRESENTATION OF HER TRAFFIC REPORT.
SO, AND COUNCIL MEMBER, MOST OF THESE ARE ALSO AGAINST THAT ARE TALKING AND I, I BELIEVE THERE WILL BE A FAIR TIME FOR THAT.
SO, SO LET'S, I I WILL LET, I WANNA GO THROUGH THIS TRAFFIC REPORT AND MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THIS WITHOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, RUNNING THROUGH THIS.
MY HEART'S RACING
THE TRAFFIC LETTER DONE BY QUICKTRIP CONSULTANT PRESENT SERIOUS FLAWS AND OMISSIONS AS HIGHLIGHTED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS CONDUCTED BY A GL TRAFFIC ENGINEERING'S ALBERT LETZ, WHO HAS OVER 50 YEARS EXPERIENCE THROUGHOUT MARICOPA AND PINAL COUNTY.
UM, WE PROVIDED YOU WITH THAT STUDY SINCE ONE, SINCE THE ONE QUICK TRIP AND DONE WAS SO INCOMPLETE AND ONLY ADDRESSED PART ONE TRIP GENERATION AND NOT PARTS TWO AND THREE, TRIP DISTRIBUTION AND TRAFFIC IMPACT THAT ARE REQUIRED IN SUCH STUDY.
HIS FINDINGS UNDERSCORE THE GRAVE INADEQUACY OF THE LETTER WRITTEN BY QUICKTRIP CONSULTANT A GL TRAFFIC ENGINEERING DID A, DID A MORE COMPREHENSIVE STUDY AND THE RESULTS CLEARLY STATED THAT THIS IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR A HIGH TRAFFIC VOLUME GENERATOR LIKE QUICKTRIP MAYOR.
OKAY, SO WHAT IS THIS TWO AND THREE CLASS THING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? OKAY, RIGHT HERE, UM, WAS WAS THIS FIR FIRST PASS, IT SAYS, I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THEIR TIS STUDY, COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHY IT WAS SUCH A SMALL STUDY.
TURNS OUT IT WAS ONLY ONE THIRD COMPLETE.
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THERE ARE THREE PARTS TO A TIS.THE FIRST PART IS TRIP GENERATION, WHICH THEY DID, BUT THE SECOND PART IS CALLED TRIP DISTRIBUTION, WHICH ALLOCATES THE GENERAL PERCENT OF TOTAL TRIPS IN A REGIONAL ORIENTATION OF WHERE TRIPS ARE COMING FROM TO AND FROM NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST OF THE SITE.
THEN THIS INFORMATION IS USED TO ASSIGN AN ESTIMATE OF PEAK HOURS DIRECTIONAL MOVEMENTS IN AND OUT OF THE SITE.
VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW THEY DID NOT DO PARTS TWO AND THREE.
I AM SURPRISED THE CITY STAFF ACCEPTED THIS REPORT.
IT WILL BE IMPORTANT TO ESTIMATE EASTBOUND RAILROAD ARRIVING FROM THE WEST.
SOME WILL MAKE A U-TURN AND OTHERS WILL USE THE TUDOR TIME AT THE MEDIAN BREAK.
MANY DRIVERS WOULD USE THIS SHORTCUT THROUGH TUTOR TIME DRIVEWAY.
HOW MANY, WHAT PERCENTAGE, QUARTER, HALF, THREE QUARTERS, ALL QUESTIONS THAT AREN'T ANSWERED ANO.
ANOTHER FAILURE WAS, WAS A FAILURE OF THE TIS CONSULTANT TO ESTIMATE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT BACK, INCLUDING Q LINKS ON A CONGESTION AT RAY AND DOBSON AND AT THE SIGNALS ON DOBSON WITHIN A HALF MILE, BOTH DIRECTIONS FROM RAY AND WITHIN A HALF MILE ON DOBSON.
SPECIAL TRAFFIC CAPACITY SOFTWARE IS USED TO COMPLETE THE STUDY.
THE, THE, UH, TRAFFIC CARRYING CAPACITY AT THE SIGNALED INTERSECTION, THE SIGNAL ANALYSIS VERY STANDARD AMONG ALL PUBLIC A AGENCIES, AGAIN, SURPRISE, THE STAFF DIDN'T REQUIRE IT.
OKAY, SO I WONDER, SO I, I STILL, I SAW THE FLOOR, I BELIEVE.
WE'LL GET WITH OUR STAFF AFTER THIS TO KIND OF GO OVER THAT SECOND AND THIRD.
BUT I, I DO WANT TO DIVE INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, YEAH, SO I COUNSEL, I'M TRYING TO KEEP EVERYONE THE SAME TIME AND, AND I UNDERSTAND ORLANDO, PLEASE HELP ME WITH DOING THAT.
SO DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER GREAT THINGS YOU WANT? I, I REALIZE YOU'VE GOT A LOT MORE YOU COULD SAY.
YEAH, NO, I, I I I, I MEAN I WAS, I TALKED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY, A ACCESS TO THE IMPORTANT THING IS GOING THROUGH TUTOR TIMES PARKING LOT WHERE KIDS AND SCHOOL BUSES AND PARENTS DROP OFF AND PICK UP THEIR KIDS AT THIS.
UM, ARE WE HAVING A DISCUSSION, UH, WITH THE UP WE, THIS IS, THIS IS NOT THAT THIS IS SCHEDULED.
AND I NEED TO TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR A MINUTE.
I'M LETTING HIM FINISH THIS THOUGHT AND THEN WE WILL, UH, OKAY.
I SENT THIS, UH, C STORES ARE THE FO FOURTH MOST COMMON LOCATION FOR VIOLENT CRIME GAS STATIONS TAKE SEVENTH PLACE IN A 2020 FBI STUDY ON CRIME STATISTICS.
ARTICLE HERE, DONE BY SOME QUICK TIP.
CUSTOMER SAYS THIS IS THE BUSIEST GAS STATION I'VE ON THE PLANET AFTER SPENDING MORE THAN A HUNDRED HOURS IN A QUICK TRIP PARKING LOT.
I CAN HONESTLY SAY I HAVE NEVER SEEN A GAS STATION WITH AS MUCH TRAFFIC AS THIS ONE.
THIS IS FROM A CONSUMER, HUSBAND, AND WIFE.
UM, THE FACT THAT, THAT THIS ISN'T GONNA GENERATE ANY MORE TRAFFIC THAN, THAN WHAT WAS PRE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED IS NOT TRUE.
I THINK ANY OF YOU THAT OUT OF EVERY, EVER PULLED BY BY ONE, THEY'RE THE BUSIEST GAS STATION NEXT TO MAYBE A COSTCO WHERE PEOPLE ARE IN LINES FOR A HALF HOUR OR SO.
COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? VICE MAYOR? YEAH, WELL, HOW YOU DOING? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, OKAY.
FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING A PART OF THIS PROCESS.
UH, I, UM, I WANT TO, UM, AND I MAY NOT NECESSARILY WANNA COMPLETELY ADDRESS IT RIGHT NOW, BUT I WANT TO COMPARE THE STUDY OF TRAFFIC.
I WOULD LIKE STAFF AND, AND QUICK TO, UH, QUICK TIP AND, AND, UM, OUR TEAM, I WANT TO LOOK AT THAT.
I REALLY WANT TO DIGEST THAT BECAUSE IT'S, I'M, I'M A PRETTY INTELLIGENT PERSON, BUT WHAT YOU SHARE WITH ME AND WHAT I CAN SEE AND WITH THE EXPERTS, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND COMPARE IT AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE SHARING IN TERMS SPECIFICALLY MORE ABOUT HOW THE TRAFFIC FLOWS AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
UH, I WANT TO KIND OF SEE, UH, AND YOU TALKED ABOUT ACCIDENTS.
I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO COMPARE THE DATA A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO IS THERE ANY WAY POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN GET WITH OUR TRAFFIC TEAM, OUR CITY MANAGER, OR WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION AND THEN ACTUALLY DO A A SO I CAN SEE IT, COMPARE, COMPARE, COMPARE.
'CAUSE I DON'T WANT DISMISS WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
I JUST REALLY WANT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND, ARE WE ANSWERING THE QUESTION? IF, IF, IF TRAFFIC IS AN ISSUE, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ANSWERING ALL THOSE QUESTIONS AS IT PERTAINS TO TRAFFIC SO I CAN MAKE, UH, A REALLY SOUND, UH, DECISION.
'CAUSE I, I REALLY, WHAT YOU JUST SHARED WAS A LOT AND WHAT THEY SHARED WAS A LOT AND WHAT WE JUST SHARED WAS
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A LOT.AND I'M REALLY JUST TRYING TO DIGEST IT.
SO, UM, I, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.
SO IF THERE'S ANY WAY POSSIBLE WE CAN DO THAT, THEN THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO.
I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS WELL IN THE CONTEXT OF US VOTING, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY, UM, SO I, I, I THINK WE'RE, DO ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THESE TWO? AND THEN WE CAN TALK, IF YOU WANNA HAVE A QUESTION FOR A TRAFFIC PERSON, WE CAN DO THAT.
DO YOU WANNA ASK HER TRAFFIC? YEAH, YEAH, I, YEAH.
CAN, CAN TRAFFIC COME UP AND ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT OUR RESIDENT, UM, DISCUSSED AS IT PERTAINS TO TRAFFIC OF THE IN AND OUT? BECAUSE I REALLY WANNA LEARN THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
DID THE NEIGHBORS ALL ORGAN, DID YOU GUYS ALL PAY FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY? ALL THE NEIGHBORS? I DID.
NOW YOU'RE AND I HAVE A PHONE.
YOU'RE JUST A NEIGHBOR? UH, UH, NO.
AS A BUSINESS OWNER OF ONE OF THE BUSINESSES IN THE AREA, THE GUEST? CHEVRON.
OH, YOU'RE THE OWNER OF THE CHEVRON FOR 28 YEARS.
VICEMAN, DO YOU WANNA ASK YOUR QUESTION? YOU JUST WANT, YOU HEARD HIS CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC? JUST KIND WANT YOU TO SPEAK TO IT AND, AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR HARRIS.
SO, UM, NORMALLY, NORMALLY WE WILL REQUIRE A FULL TRAFFIC STUDY FOR A NEW SITE OR A WEED DEVELOPMENT.
GENERALLY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC BECAUSE OF THE EXISTING SITE.
AND UH, AND THEN THE NEW PROPOSED QT ACTUALLY LESS TRAFFIC.
SO WE WOULDN'T EVEN REQUIRE FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY FROM THE BEGINNING AND THE FACT THAT THEY DID A TRAFFIC STATEMENT THAT'S ALREADY ABOVE OUR, OUR REQUIREMENT.
THAT'S WHY WE DON'T REQUIRE THEM DO THE, UH, THE SECOND AND THE THIRD PART.
THIS MAYOR, MAYOR, UM, DOES THAT, DOES THAT REPORT CONCERN YOU ABOUT THAT, LIKE THAT GAS STATION, THEIR GAS STATION, UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART? I HAVE NOT SEEN THEIR REPORT.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS, UH, UH, IN INCLUDE IN THAT REPORT.
I ONLY SEEN THE TRAFFIC STATEMENT PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
YEAH, I, I'D BE INTERESTED TO SEE THAT REPORT AND, AND ITS EFFECT ON CHEVRON.
LIKE IF THE CHEVRON'S CAUSING SIMILAR ISSUES, LIKE WE, WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION BECAUSE, UH, I'M SORRY.
UM, SO YOU DID NOT SEE THE GENTLEMAN'S REPORT? NO, WE HAVE NOT.
UM, UH, I'M, I GUESS I'M FLABBERGASTED HERE BECAUSE I'M TRYING, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT A TWO AND THREE IS.
IF EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T REQUIRE IT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IS THIS THE DISASTER? HELP ME UNDERSTAND, PUT THIS IN PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT THE GENTLEMAN'S SAYING THAT A TWO AND PARTS TWO AND THREE, I BELIEVE WE ARE GETTING A 1 0 1.
I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A GRADUATE COURSE BY THE TIME WE'RE DONE HERE, UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO.
SO LET ME EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TWO AND THREE.
SO, UH, PART ONE IS TO TELL HOW MANY NEW TRIP WERE GENERATED BY THIS SITE, BUT IT DOESN'T TELL YOU WHERE THEY COME FROM, SOUTH, NORTH, AND WEST, WHERE, WHICH IS THE PART TWO, THE DISTRIBUTIONS COME FROM.
AND THE PART THREE IS WHETHER THAT HAS NEGATIVE IMPACT OR NOT, IS THAT GONNA BE DUMPING MORE, UH, OF THE, UH, LOWER THE, UH, LEVEL SERVICE? THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
SO, UH, THE FACT THAT WE, THERE'S A MEDIAN ON, UH, RAILROAD AND THERE WILL BE A MEDIAN ON, UH, DOBSON.
THERE WILL BE RESTRICTED, A LOT OF MOVEMENT WILL BE RESTRICTED.
SO MOST OF THOSE WILL BE COMING FROM THE, UH, SOUTHBOUND AND THEN THE, UH, WESTBOUND.
BUT WE HAVE NOT, UH, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXAMINE THAT AS WELL.
DOES IT CONCERN YOU, UH, AT ALL, AND I'M, AS WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY IS ONCE WE PUT THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS IN, IT SHOULD SATISFY TWO AND THREE, OR AM I PUTTING WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH? I APOLOGIZE.
I KNOW IT'S NOT REQUIRED, BUT MY QUESTION TO YOU AS A TRAFFIC ENGINEER EXPERT, DOES IT CONCERN YOU? PARTS TWO AND THREE WERE NOT DONE OR NOT LOOKED AT? UH, AT, AT THE, THE REPORT THAT WE WE RECEIVED, IT DOES NOT SEEMS TO BE, HAVE A NEGATIVE
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IMPACT FOR THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.THEN LET ME REPHRASE MY SECOND QUESTION.
KNOWING WHAT TWO AND THREE IS, WHICH I DON'T KNOW I'M A DISADVANTAGE HERE.
THE IMPROVEMENTS WE DO IN 2026, WILL THAT HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE PART TWO AND THREE CONCERN THAT GENTLEMAN RAISED? IT? IT WILL DEFINITELY WILL BECAUSE IT RESTRICTED SOME OF THE MOVEMENT.
CURRENTLY THERE'S A FREE FALL FROM, UH, DOBSON ROAD GOING NORTHBOUND.
YOU CAN MAKE A LEFT TURN AFTER THE IMPROVEMENT.
APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE ON THIS, MAYOR.
I WANNA MAKE SURE COUNCIL, WE KNOW HOW WE'RE VOTING AND, UH, OUR CITIZENS HERE ARE THE SAME.
I I COULDN'T TALK TO ALL OF YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER POSTON OR COUNCILMAN MORALES.
DID EITHER OF YOU HAVE A COMMENT? NO, I'M SATISFIED.
I WAS SATISFIED BY OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, UH, TO HAVE A GREAT UNDERSTANDING.
THE UNDERSTANDING OF EXPLAINING, UH, WHAT ARE WE DEALING WITH WITH HERE AT THIS TIME.
AND THEN, THEN THE LAST THING IS THAT THE FACT THAT THE, THE CHEVRON ALSO IS PRODUCING TRAFFIC RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY ARE STOPPING THERE TO GET GAS.
I'M GETTING A GOOD HEAD WORK OUT HERE TONIGHT.
ALSO, MY QUESTIONS GOT ANSWERED AS WELL.
ALRIGHT, VICE AND I JUST, UM, JUST, I I WAS APPRECIATING THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS.
THAT'S WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO KNOW.
I, UH, AND IF THIS INTERSECTION IS SUPER BUSY AND WE'RE HAVING MULTIPLE TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS, UM, I, I PROBABLY WANT THAT TO BE ADDRESSED AT A DIFFERENT, UH, A DIFFERENT DATE.
AND THEN I ALSO WANTED TO SEE, UH, ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FROM OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF HOW WE ARE HANDLING OR DO WE HAVE, UH, ADDITIONAL PATROLS IN THAT AREA YEAH.
TO COMBAT BACK TRAFFIC NAVIGATIONS.
AND COUNCIL, MIGHT I SUGGEST, UM, MAYBE WRITE YOUR QUESTIONS DOWN UNLESS THEY'RE PERTINENT TO EACH ONE AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE A CHANCE TO DIALOGUE UP HERE BEFORE WE VOTE.
AND IF YOU ALSO WANNA THEN ASK OUR POLICE OR, OR OTHER QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT BE MORE AND I'D LIKE TO GET OUR RESIDENCY OPPORTUNITY TO, TO SHARE AND THEN, 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE WE WILL THEN DISCUSS THIS AT THE END, IF THAT'S OKAY.
NEXT SPEAKER IS, UH, MR. LANG.
MR. LANG, IF YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, UH, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND, UH, THE TIME IS YOURS.
UM, GOOD EVENING COUNSEL, UH, NAME'S JEFF LANG AT 2 3 3 8 WEST ORCHID LANE.
AS WE HEARD TONIGHT, THAT IS LITERALLY A FOOTBALL FIELD AWAY.
AND, UH, I GUESS I'LL TELL YOU, A FOOTBALL FIELD REALLY ISN'T AS BIG AS YOU WOULD THINK, UM, IN CANVASSING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'VE TALKED WITH FOLKS THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN LITERALLY HEAR ACCIDENTS AS, AS THEY HAPPEN.
UH, QTS TOLD US THAT THEY'RE A SAFE HAVEN FOR CHILDREN.
ARE THEIR GAS STATION ATTENDANTS TRAINED COUNSELORS? WILL THEY BE PROVIDING SCHOOL TUTORING FOR RESIDENTS? WHAT KIND OF SAFE HAVEN FOR CHILDREN ALSO PROFITS OFF THE SALE OF TOBACCO AND ALCOHOL? QT IS GONNA TELL YOU THAT THEIR GAS STATION AT ATTENDANTS, UH, ARE TRAINED TO DEAL WITH VAGRANT.
IF THEY KICK SOMEBODY OFF THEIR PROPERTY, WHERE WILL THEY GO? SETON HALL TUDOR TIME ACROSS THE FOOTBALL FIELD INTO MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
QT WILL ALSO TELL YOU THAT NOT A LOT OF CHILDREN CROSS THAT CROSS, CROSS THE STREET THERE ON DOBSON.
I LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY, I WALK THAT COMMUNITY IN THE MORNING, I WALK THAT COMMUNITY IN THE EVENING.
CHILDREN CROSS THAT ROAD, AND I ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO GO, YOU KNOW, TAKE A LOOK TOO.
IF CORPORATE RE DIDN'T CLOUD QTS CONSCIOUSNESS, THEN THEY'D BE HONEST WITH THEMSELVES AND THEN, THEN THEY WOULD BUILD SOMEWHERE ELSE.
UH, WHO ARE THEY COMPETING WITH? WELL, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE LOOKED, AND I THINK THAT THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE 19 OR 20 GAS STATIONS IN ALL OF CHANDLER.
I KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE HAVE ENOUGH GAS STATIONS AND IT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT TO PUT SOMETHING IN THAT CORNER THAT WOULD BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW, AND I, I SPOKE WITH ACTUALLY A COACH AT, AT SETON, UM, WHO, YOU KNOW, HAS THE IDEA OF PUTTING, UH, A SPORTS ACADEMY THERE.
AND I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT, A GREAT IDEA.
I'VE LIVED HERE FOR THREE YEARS AND I'VE SEEN THE COMMUNITY START TO GENTRIFY AND GET A LITTLE BIT YOUNGER.
I'M SEEING, UM, YOU KNOW, FOLKS MORE MY AGE, UM, EMPTY NESTERS ARE MOVING SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
UM, AND, AND AGAIN, THAT'S ONE REASON WHY WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER GAS STATION.
LET'S PUT SOMETHING THERE, UH, THAT'S GONNA BE GOOD FOR, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR KIDS, UH, QT WILL TELL YOU THAT THEY BRING JOBS INTO THEIR COMMUNITIES.
I HEARD THAT THEY'RE A, A STELLAR CORPORATION.
UH, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT GLASSDOOR, UM, REDDIT AND LOOK AT WHAT YOU KNOW, FORMER QT EMPLOYEES SAY ABOUT THEIR EMPLOYER.
IT'S NOT ALL, UH, SUNSHINE AND ROSES TOO.
THEY'RE ALSO AN ANTI-LABOR CORPORATION.
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THERE WERE SOME U LPS FILED, UH, A NUMBER OF YEARS BACK.AND I, I SEE THAT, THAT'S WARM ME THAT MY TIME'S ALMOST OFF.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE A $12 BILLION COMPANY, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM FROM OKLAHOMA.
THEY'RE NOT FROM CHANDLER, YOU KNOW, AND I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT OUR MOD PA BUSINESSES.
I KNOW MANY OF YOU ARE, UH, SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS AND I, I REALLY DON'T WANT TO SEE, UH, QT COME IN HERE AND IMPACT THE FOLKS THAT ACTUALLY LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY, UM, KNOW, MAKE THEIR BREAD AND BUTTER FROM THE BUSINESSES THAT THEY RUN.
UH, AND LAST THING REALLY QUICK, UH, YOU KNOW, TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE, THOSE SURVEYS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WHEN I WAS CANVASSING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I HEARD SOME PEOPLE SAY THAT, OH, WE, WE SIGNED YOUR SURVEY.
YOU KNOW, I, I I THINK YOU MIGHT WANNA LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSELY AT WHAT THEY HAVE.
NEXT, AND, UH, MR. FRED BORNES.
MR. BORNES, AGAIN, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND I GUESS I CHALLENGE EVERYONE TO NOT SAY THE EXACT SAME THING.
IF YOU'VE GOT A NEW TAKE ON, ON OUR NEW INFORMATION FOR US, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
I WAS GONNA SAY THE SAME THING.
I'M A, UH, I LIVE AT SIX SOUTH STELLAR PARKWAY IN CHANDLER, 47 YEAR RESIDENCE, UH, OF, UH, CHANDLER.
I THINK THAT THE QT STORE, PARTICULARLY THE MINI MARKET ASPECT, IS NOT REALLY A COMPATIBLE FIT FOR THIS CORNER.
UM, I ENJOY GOING TO THE GASOLINE STATIONS, ESPECIALLY QT.
I THINK THEY'RE A GOOD COMPANY.
MR. GREATHOUSE AND THE QT TEAM HAVE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF PRESENTING THEIR, UM, DEPICTION OF WHAT WILL TRANSPIRE ON THIS CORNER.
IT'S A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, WHICH PROBABLY HAS A, UM, UNDERPERFORMING AND A LOW COST, UH, YOU KNOW, THING THAT'S GONNA GET DEMOLISHED AND REPLACED BY THIS POTENTIALLY VERY GOOD MONEY MAKER.
I THINK THE TRAFFIC STUDIES IN PARTICULAR, THE LOKAHI REPORT, JUST TO KIND OF, I'M SORRY, MAYBE REPEAT WHAT WAS JUST SAID ABOUT BY MR. MILLER.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING FOR ME BECAUSE IF YOU READ THEIR REPORT, WHICH I DID, THEY ARGUED THAT, UM, THE PERMIT, UH, IN 1998 P LT 98 DASH 29 WOULD ALLOW AS MANY AS 5,200 INS AND OUTS, INS AND OUTS.
SO 2,600 EACH WAY, UH, PER DAY.
AND QT PRESENTED IN THEIR TRAFFIC STUDY THAT THEY FELT BY THE DATA THAT'S NATIONWIDE, THAT THEIR BUSINESS WOULD GENERATE AROUND ON AVERAGE 4,100 IN AND OUTS PER DAY.
SO THAT WOULD BE 1100 LESS THAN THE 25-YEAR-OLD, UM, PLT WOULD'VE ALLOWED.
THAT'S A JUSTIFICATION FOR DOING THIS.
AND UH, THE TROUBLE THAT I HAVE WITH THIS IS THAT TRAFFIC IN MY VIEW, IS A VERY NON-LINEAR PHENOMENON.
IF YOU HAVE STREETS THAT WERE DESIGNED 25 YEARS AGO TO HANDLE 40,000 CARS AND TODAY, AND, AND THEN YOU ONLY ADDED SAY, 5,000 CARS TO THAT MIX, THAT'S A PRETTY LARGE PERCENTAGE, BUT IT'S A SMALL AMOUNT BELOW THE CAPACITY.
IT'S A VERY NON-LINEAR FUNCTION.
SO NOW WE HAVE A STREET BY EVERYONE'S OWN ADMISSION, IT'S GOT 40,000 CARS PER DAY.
MAYBE THAT'S GOING BOTH WAYS, BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ADDING NOT JUST JUST 4,100 ON AVERAGE PER DAY.
AND, AND YOU GET UP AGAINST THAT, THAT BUMP AND IT BECOMES VERY INELASTIC.
THIS THE, UH, THE INTERSECTIONS GET VERY CROWDED AT DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE DAY, THEY GET SATURATED.
AND ALL OF US THAT LIVE IN CHANDLER SEE THAT SATURATION AT LEAST DURING RUSH HOUR.
SO THIS IS A CONCERN ABOUT IT, AND I THINK YOU REALLY NEED TO GO BACK, AS MR. ORLANDO SAID, AND STUDY THAT TRAFFIC REPORT MORE CLOSELY.
THREE, THERE'S THREE SCHOOLS IN THE REGION.
I WENT TO A CLOSED CAMPUS TOO, AND ON FRIDAY AFTERNOONS WHEN I FINALLY DID GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL, WE USED TO GO DOWN TO THE POOL HALL.
THAT'S AN, THAT'S AN ADOLESCENT THING.
SO COMING TO THE MINI MART, YOU'RE GONNA FIND MORE STUDENTS THERE FROM SETON, NO DOUBT.
UM, THE LAST POINT I'M GONNA MAKE, I PROMISE, IS THAT IF, IF THIS WAS A, AN IN AN INSTALLATION THAT WAS GONNA BE NEAR A CHANDLER UNION SCHOOL OR A TEMPE, UH, UNION HIGH SCHOOL, YOU'D BE INUNDATED WITH PEOPLE FROM THE BOARD AND FROM THOSE COMMUNITIES CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.
IF YOU LOOK AT SCHOOLS, PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN NEIGHBOR THE CITY, YOU'LL FIND THAT VERY FEW OF THEM HAVE A PHENOMENON LIKE THIS, RIGHT WITHIN A FOOTBALL FIELD'S LENGTH.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DARREN NUTTON.
MR. NUTTON CAN PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND, UM,
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YOU HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES, SIR.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UH, WE LIVE AT, UH, 1602 WEST DEL RIO STREET, UH, IN CHANDLER.
MY WIFE AND OUR FAMILY HAVE LIVED IN CHANDLER AND WE ARE HOMEOWNERS IN ANDERSON SPRINGS, UH, COMMUNITY FOR 30 YEARS.
WE ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF REZONING FOR QT.
WE HAVE SIMILAR CONCERNS AS OTHERS, BUT WE, WE DON'T KNOW AND UNDERSTAND IS WHAT VALUE DOES QT BRING TO CHANDLER? IS THERE VALUE, CONVENIENCE? THEN I HAVE TO ASK, WHAT IS THE COST OF THAT CONVENIENCE? LET ME READ THIS STATEMENT THAT CAN BE FOUND ON VARIOUS NEWS, BUSINESS, CITY AND REAL ESTATE WEBSITES.
QUICK TRIPS STRATEGY IS TO BE THE DOMINANT CONVENIENCE GASOLINE RETAILER IN EACH MARKET AND TO REACH THAT LEVEL, NOT THROUGH SHEER NUMBER OF STORES, BUT THROUGH KEY HIGH VOLUME LOCATIONS.
END QUOTE, QT IS A MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION AND THERE IS NO INFORMATION ON THEIR WEBSITE THAT THEY'RE DOING ANYTHING FOR CORPORATE RESPONSIBILITY OR SUSTAINABILITY.
CORPORATE RESPONSIBILITY REFERS TO THE NEED FOR BUSINESSES TO BE GOOD CORPORATE CITIZENS AND INVOLVES GOING BEYOND THE LAW'S REQUIREMENTS.
THIS MEANS MANAGING THEIR BUSINESS PROCESSES WHILE TAKING ACCOUNT OF THEIR SOCIAL ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.
AND CONSIDERING HUMAN RIGHTS, DOES QT HAVE A GOAL TO REDUCE THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL FOOTPRINT AND REDUCE RESOURCES? WHAT WE WANNA ASK THE CITY OF CHANDLER'S COUNCIL MEMBERS NOT TO CONTINUE BEING ANOTHER CITY OF CONVENIENCE FOR QT, NOT APPROVE THEIR REZONING AND NOT ALLOW ANOTHER QT AND CHANDLER, AS IT SEEMS, THEIR CORPORATE RESPONSIBILITY IS TO INCREASE THEIR PROFITS WHILE THEY REDUCE OUR CITY'S RESOURCES.
WHAT WE SHOULD KNOW IS HOW MUCH WASTE DO THEIR STORES GENERATE? MORE IMPORTANTLY, DO THEY RECYCLE? AND HOW MUCH MATERIAL IS OR COULD BE DIVERTED FROM LANDFILLS WITH 1064 STORES IN 17 STATES.
143 OF THOSE STORES ARE IN ARIZONA AND FOUR ARE IN CHANDLER.
DO THEY USE HYBRID OR ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN THEIR DELIVERY AND SERVICE FLEET? ARE THERE SINGLE USE CUPS AND STRAWS, ECO-FRIENDLY OR BIODEGRADABLE? ARE THEY USING RE RENEWABLE ENERGY? WHY DON'T WE KNOW OR SEE IF THERE ARE SOLAR PANELS ON TOP OF THEIR PUMP CANOPIES? WHY ARE THERE NO EV CHARGERS? QUOTING CHANDLER'S WEBSITE, SUSTAINABILITY IS ABOUT BALANCING THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND ECONOMIC NEEDS OF CHANDLER ALONG WITH THE NEEDS OF FUTURE GENERATIONS TO THE COUNCIL.
ARE THE ECONOMICS OF THE TAX REVENUES GENERATED FROM QT TIPPING THE SCALES OVER FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL NEEDS OF THE CITY AND ITS RESIDENTS? THE CONVENIENT VOTE WOULD BE YES, BUT THE RESPONSIBLE VOTE IS NO.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS AUDREY EATON.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES.
UM, I'M AUDREY EATON AND I LIVE AT 1848 WEST ORCHID LANE AND I OPPOSE THE QT APPLICATION.
I HAVE LIVED IN PENNINGTON PLACE FOR ALMOST A DECADE.
IT'S A GATED COMMUNITY NEAR THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF DOBSON AND RAY AND SURROUNDED BY FRY'S MARKET, DOBSON ROAD IN HOPE CHRISTIAN ACADEMY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
WE ARE ACROSS THE STREET FROM ANDERSON JUNIOR HIGH AND SETON CATHOLIC PREP.
AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, TUTOR TIME, PRESCHOOL AND SETON ARE ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED QT SITE.
REASONS I OPPOSE THE QT INCLUDE NUMBER ONE TRAFFIC.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT, UH, THERE WILL BE INCREASED TRAFFIC CONGESTION AND I THINK THERE'LL BE AN INCREASED RISK FOR ACCIDENTS.
NUMBER TWO, CONVENIENCE STORES WITH GAS STATIONS ATTRACT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
I BASE THIS ON THE FBI UNIFORM CRIME REPORT PUBLISHED IN 2023 AND THE CALLS CALLS FOR SERVICE REPORT AS WE HEARD FROM THE POLICE OFFICER.
I ALSO REQUESTED THAT REPORT FOR THE LAST YEAR.
UM, CALL TYPES WERE NUMEROUS AND INCLUDED THOSE FOR NARCOTICS, CRIMINAL TRAFFIC, ARMED ROBBERY, INDECENT EXPOSURE, HIT AND RUN, DISORDERLY CONDUCT, ASSAULT AND DUI.
LASTLY, I WANNA MAKE TWO COMMENTS ABOUT PETITIONS WITH SIGNATURES FOR AND AGAINST QT.
NUMBER ONE, OVER THE LAST WEEK, I WALKED AROUND PENINGTON PLACE ON FOUR DIFFERENT OCCASIONS WITH A PETITION OPPOSING QT.
NOT EVERYONE WAS HOME, BUT I DID COLLECT A TOTAL OF 44 SIGNATURES.
THOSE WHO OPPOSED REPRESENTED 75% OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT I SURVEYED.
THESE NEIGHBORS WHO OPPOSED THOUGHT QT WAS A BAD FIT FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH INCLUDES A HIGH DENSITY OF SCHOOLS IN THE VICINITY OF THE PROPOSED QT.
NUMBER TWO ON TUESDAY, WHILE I WAS AT THIS PAST TUESDAY WHILE AT WORK, I RECEIVED A CALL FROM MY FRIEND DAVE, WHO LIVES IN GILBERT.
HE TOLD ME THAT HE STOPPED AT THE QT AT 2010 SOUTH ARIZONA IN CHANDLER AT ABOUT 1:00 PM THAT DAY.
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FIVE MILES FROM THE DOBSON RAY INTERSECTION.HE WAS APPROACHED BY A QT EMPLOYEE WHO WAS STANDING OUTSIDE THE ENTRANCE AND ASKED HIM TO SIGN A PETITION SUPPORTING THE DOBSON.
DAVE ASKED HER WHY SIGNATURES WEREN'T BEING COLLECTED IN THE DOBSON RAY NEIGHBORHOOD INSTEAD, AND SHE REPLIED THAT THEY NEEDED SIGNATURES TO OUTNUMBER THOSE BEING COLLECTED BY THE OWNER OF THE DOBSON RAY CHEVRON.
HE ASKED HER WHERE SHE LIVED AND SHE SAID SHE WAS FROM TUCSON.
I DROVE TO THAT QT AFTER WORK AND ARRIVED AT FIVE 30.
AT THAT TIME, THERE WERE TWO QT EMPLOYEES WITH CLIPBOARDS COLLECTING SIGNATURES.
I TOOK A PICTURE OF THE SCENE AS I ALMOST COULDN'T BELIEVE WHAT I WAS SEEING.
I IMAGINE MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE SIGNING THE PETITIONS DID NOT HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THE DOBSON RAY NEIGHBORHOOD.
I JUST WONDER IF QT WAS ALSO COLLECTING SIGNATURES AT THEIR OTHER LOCATIONS IN CHANDLER.
IN CLOSING, I HOPE OUR MAYOR, WEIS MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL SCRUTINIZE THESE PETITIONS AND IN THE END, MAKE A DECISION THAT WILL SAFEGUARD MY COMMUNITY.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS CHRIS VIC.
MR. VIC, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES, SIR.
I LIVE AT 2110 WEST KNOX ROAD, UH, WHICH IS JUST NORTH OF THE PROPOSED SITE.
SO I DIDN'T REALLY COME HERE THINKING THAT I WAS GONNA SAY ANYTHING.
I JUST WANTED TO LISTEN, SEE WHATEVER THE PEOPLE HAD TO SAY.
MAYBE LISTEN TO WHAT THE COUNCIL HAD TO SAY.
AND THAT CHANGED OBVIOUSLY THE MORE I LISTENED.
SO HOPEFULLY IF YOU GIVE ME, I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT.
I FEEL THAT IT'S FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED THE WAY THAT, QUITE FRANKLY, INFORMATION WAS GATHERED ABOUT PEOPLE IN THE AREA.
I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS UNTIL RECENTLY AND I MEAN, VERY RECENTLY, THE DISTANCE OF THE AREA WAS FAR TOO SMALL, ESPECIALLY FOR THE INITIAL NEIGHBORHOOD INPUT.
IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE AREA WHERE I LIVE, I'M 500 YARDS AWAY.
DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT, WASN'T TALKED ABOUT.
I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT UNTIL THE SIGN GOT PUT UP NEXT TO THE SITE.
BUT THEN I AM ALSO SEEING THAT SIGNATURES WERE GATHERED FOR PEOPLE THAT WERE WANTING TO APPROVE IT.
AND I MEAN, I'M SORRY, BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SUN LAKES AND YOU'RE APPROVING THAT SITE, YOU HAVE NO BEARING ON MY COMMUNITY.
YOU JUST DON'T LIKE YOU LIVE AT RURAL AND RAY OR RURAL AND CHANDLER.
I MEAN, IF IT'S CLOSE, IT'S NOT CLOSE.
NOT FOR ME, NOT FOR WHERE, WHERE I DRIVE EVERY SINGLE DAY.
I, AND I DON'T CARE IF IT'S QT OR NOT TO ME, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S QT OR ANOTHER GAS STATION.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED IT THERE.
WHY DO WE NEED ANOTHER GAS STATION THERE? IT'S DIFFICULT ENOUGH, NO OFFENSE TO GET INSIDE THE CHA UH, THE CHEVRON WHEN I NEED TO AND EVEN GETTING OUT OF IT.
I ALSO DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IN GOOD CONSCIENCE WE CAN ALLOW BUILDING A QT THERE WHEN WE HAVE NOT EVEN DECIDED THE, THE EXACT DESIGN THAT WOULD BE CHOSEN FOR THE INTERSECTION IN ALL DIRECTIONS.
AND I'M HEARING THAT FROM THE GENTLEMAN THAT'S FOR, UH, THE CITY.
SO HOW CAN WE GOOD CONSCIENCE DO THAT ALSO, WHEN HE SAID WE DIDN'T NEED TO DO STEPS TWO AND THREE, UH, AGAIN FROM MR. MILLER'S INFORMATION, HE SAID IT'S BECAUSE IT'S NOT FOR REDEVELOPMENT.
WELL, I'M SORRY, BUT THE DEFINITION OF REDEVELOPMENT IS THE ACTION OR PROCESS OF DEVELOPING SOMETHING AGAIN OR DIFFERENTLY.
IT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WE'RE PUTTING SOMETHING NEW THERE THAT'S NEW, THAT'S NEW DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S WHAT THAT IS AGAIN, WITH WHAT MR. MILLER STATED.
AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE TOO MUCH TIME.
I REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS A CVS, I'VE ONLY BEEN LIVING IN THE COMMUNITY FOR 17 YEARS.
I DON'T CONSIDER THAT A LONG TIME.
A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LIVING HERE LONGER THAN ME.
HOWEVER, I REMEMBER WHEN WAS A CVS AND IT WASN'T THAT HARD TO GET IN AND OUT OF.
SO WHEN PEOPLE SAY IT'S ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC AS WHAT A QT OR ANOTHER GAS STATION OR CONVENIENCE STORE WOULD DO, THAT'S WRONG.
SO I THINK THE INTERSECTION HAS ISSUES ALREADY, ACCIDENTS, ET CETERA.
I'M SURE PEOPLE SEE CARS RUNNING RED LIGHTS THREE TO FOUR IN A ROW.
IF I COULD ASK YOU TO JUST ALLOW THE SPEAKERS TO ADDRESS US AND, AND NOT GIVE VERBAL RESPONSES, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
I I DON'T WANT ANYONE BOOED YET ON THE OTHER HAND EITHER.
SO OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS APRIL BAUER QUINN, I APOLOGIZE FOR MISPRONOUNCING YOUR NAME.
IF I HAVE, IF YOU COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES.
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QUICK.UH, APRIL BWIN 1255 NORTH ARIZONA AND I'M PERSONALLY JUST IN FAVOR OF PUTTING A GAS STATION.
I DON'T THINK THAT PUNISHING ANY, UM, COMPANY IN TERMS OF THE BILLINGS.
WHAT I DO AND DON'T DO, AND I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AROUND, BUT I'M ALSO LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC WHERE EASY INGRESS EGRESS IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN TRYING TO MAKE U-TURNS, WHICH LEADS TO A LOT OF THE, UM, TRAFFIC AND I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ERICA DIAL.
AND AGAIN, IF YOU CAN PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
YOU HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES TO SHARE WITH COUNSEL.
I LIVE AT 2012 WEST TYSON IN CHANDLER, JUST SOUTH OF THE PROPOSED AREA.
UM, MY HUSBAND AND I ARE ABSOLUTELY IN FAVOR OF THIS.
WE HAVE SPOKEN TO MANY NEIGHBORS.
UH, WE FREQUENT A LOT OF THE BUSINESSES THAT THEY MENTION WE'RE IN FAVOR OF THIS.
UM, AND WHEN WE'RE THERE, MY HUSBAND IS A SALESMAN, SO HE TALKS TO EVERYBODY.
UM, AND I SIT QUIETLY NEXT TO HIM.
SO IT'S VERY UNUSUAL FOR ME TO GET UP HERE AND TALK.
UM, AND EVERYBODY WE'VE TALKED TO OR HE'S TALKED TO AND I SAID, AND LISTEN, IS IN FAVOR OF THIS.
I THINK THE MAIN REASON THAT YOU'RE NOT GETTING A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK AND SUPPORT IS BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS THE SQUEAKY WHEELS THAT WANNA COME UP AND SQUEAK.
UM, SO WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF SUPPORT.
UM, I AM VERY GLAD THAT QT WAS ABLE TO GET ALL THOSE SIGNATURES BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN THE SUPPORT AND HEARD THE SUPPORT FOR THIS.
UM, SO I WAS TRYING TO MAKE NOTES AS I WAS SITTING THERE.
UM, THE TRAFFIC STUDIES THAT EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT WAS ALL ADDRESSED IN THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION.
'CAUSE I HAVE BEEN TO EVERY SINGLE MEETING.
I STARTED WITH THE OCTOBER MEETING.
UM, SO FOR PEOPLE SAYING THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT 'EM, THEY PUT THOSE GIANT ORANGE SIGNS ON BOTH CORNERS OF THE PROPOSED SITE.
SO IF THEY DIDN'T KNOW, THEY DIDN'T SEE IT.
'CAUSE THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR MONTHS, SINCE OCTOBER.
UM, IT IS THE OWNER OF THAT CHEVRON THAT IS LEADING THE CRUSADE TO, UM, STOP THIS.
AND HE MENTIONED THAT HE HAS BEEN A PART OF THE ANDERSON SPRINGS HOA FOR 28 YEARS.
HIS BUSINESS IS A PART OF THAT.
HOA, HE IS NOT, HE DID NOT MENTION HIS ADDRESS.
UM, AND WITH THE MASSIVE INFLUX THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN OUR AREA OF ALL THESE NEW APARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT ARE BUILT, THE ONE, THE NEW APARTMENTS THAT WERE JUST BUILT BY THE FRYS ON CHANDLER, THE NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT IS STILL GOING ON ON FRY WITH MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF NEW APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND THAT INFLUX OF PEOPLE, WE ABSOLUTELY NEED MORE GAS STATIONS.
AND I THINK THE PROOF IS THAT COSTCO IS LOOKING AT EXPANDING THEIR GAS STATION.
SO I MEAN, THAT TELLS YOU IF THEY DIDN'T NEED THAT, IF THERE WASN'T THE NEED, THEY WOULDN'T BE EXPANDING.
AND IF THERE WASN'T THE NEED, QT WOULDN'T PROPOSE THIS SITE IF THE NEED WASN'T THERE.
AND TO THE, UH, ONE OF THE LAST ONES THAT THEY SAID, THIS ISN'T NEW DEVELOPMENT, IT'S THEY'RE JUST ASKING FOR A, THE GAS PAD.
THEY'RE NOT ASKING TO REDEVELOP IT INTO LIKE, UH, HOUSING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT I THINK WOULD QUALIFY FOR THE THE FULL THREE PART TRAFFIC STUDY.
BECAUSE AGAIN, WE ALL JUST GOT OUR, OUR DEGREE IN THAT.
THANK YOU, MR. OUR NEXT, AND AGAIN, I'M TAKING THESE IN THE ORDER.
THEY'VE COME, UH, MR. BUTLER, PHIL BUTLER.
MR. BUTLER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
I AM, UH, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER.
UH, I'M THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE CHEVRON.
UH, IN MY EXPERIENCE, GAS STATIONS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A TARGET FOR THE HOMELESS AND FOR PAN HANDLERS.
FOR THOSE LOOKING TO BUY AND SELL DRUGS AND OTHER CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AND BEING BUILT DIRECTLY BESIDE A DAYCARE AND A HIGH SCHOOL, IT WILL BECOME A HANGOUT FOR CHILDREN.
UH, HIGH SCHOOLERS, UH, QT, LIKE OTHER LARGE GAS STATION CHAINS, SEEM TO, TO ALLOW THESE PEOPLE TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT, UH, WHICH MAKE THEIR LOCATIONS MUCH MORE DANGEROUS THAN OTHER BUSINESS, OTHER LIKE BUSINESSES.
UH, AT OUR STATION WE ARE VERY AGGRESSIVE AT REMOVING THESE PEOPLE THAT HARASS AND ENDANGER OUR CUSTOMERS AND OUR EMPLOYEES.
WE HAVE ZERO TOLERANCE, UH, AND RESPOND IMMEDIATELY TO REMOVING THEM.
QTS SAY THEY HAVE A STRONG POLICY FOR
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DEALING WITH THESE PEOPLE, BUT, UH, IN, IN MY EXPERIENCE VISITING, UH, ANY QTS YOU WILL SEE THIS IS NOT EXISTENT.THE SAME IS CIRCLE K, UH, ONE OF THE ZONING AND PLANNING.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT VOTED IN FAVOR, UH, OF THIS QT BEING.
BILL, UH, SAID IT'LL BRING A SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT THEY WILL BRING NOTHING THAT ISN'T ALREADY THERE AND WILL BE THE EIGHTH GAS STATION WITHIN A MILE AND A HALF OF THIS INTERSECTION.
UM, THEY WILL BE TAKING AWAY REVENUE FROM LONG ESTABLISHED BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BUILT UP THIS AREA IN THE LAST 25 AND 30 YEARS.
NOBODY WILL BENEFIT FROM QT BEING HERE EXCEPT QT.
SINCE THE FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
QT IS REPEATEDLY, REPEATEDLY MANY MISLEADING STATEMENTS REGARDING THE SERIOUS CONCERNS, OR RATHER OPINIONS AS THEY CALL IT, OF THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, SUCH AS TRAFFIC WILL BE LESS, UH, THAN THE ORIGINAL PAD THAT I BELIEVE WAS WRITTEN 25 YEARS AGO.
THEY ALSO STATED THAT WESTBOUND TRAFFIC HAS TO MAKE A U-TURN, UH, TO GET INTO THE CHEVRON, WHICH IS NOT TRUE.
THERE IS A DEDICATED, UH, TURN LANE, UH, TO GET INTO THE CHEVRON FOR WESTBOUND TRAFFIC.
UH, SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THESE MEETINGS HAVE HAVE SAID, I LOVE QT, BUT NOT HERE.
UH, EVEN THEIR OWN CUSTOMERS DO NOT WANT THIS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
QT KEEPS CALLING EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS, OPINIONS, BUT THESE ARE NOT OPINIONS.
FACT, THERE WILL BE MUCH MORE TRAFFIC, FACT, MORE ACCIDENTS, FACT MORE CRIME, AND ALSO FACT MORE CLOSED DOWN AND BOARDED UP BUSINESSES THAT ALWAYS SEEM TO FOLLOW NEW QT STATIONS WHEREVER THEY BUILD.
DOES CHANDLER WANT OR NEED TWO OR THREE GAS STATIONS ON EVERY CORNER? JUST LOOK AT PHOENIX AND MESA.
AND WHEN A QT MOVES IN, MANY OF THE OTHER SMALL CHAIN GAS STATIONS ARE SHUTTERED FURTHER LEADING TO MORE BLIGHT AND HOMELESS CAMPS IN THE AREA.
PLEASE CONSIDER THE, THE FACTS REGARDING THIS PROPOSAL AND NOT QTS CONTINUE.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER CARD IS FROM GRACE MCMAHON.
MS. MCMAHON, IF YOU COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES.
I'M AT 1560 WEST IRONWOOD DRIVE, CHANDLER IN ANDERSON SPRINGS.
IT'S THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF GRAND DOBSON.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY FUN STATISTICS FOR YOU.
I AM YOUR TYPICAL 34 YEAR RESIDENT
THAT'S JUST SAYING I AM FOR THIS.
I'VE LIVED THERE AND WATCHED THAT CORNER BE BUILT TO A CVS.
IT'S GONE BE BUILT TO, I WANNA SAY IT WAS A PETCO, BUT I CAN'T SWEAR BY THAT.
AND THEN THE NEXT PET THING IS GONE AND I'M SICK OF AN EMPTY BUILDING JUST SITTING THERE.
I'M LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT WORKS.
I DON'T SEE THE TRAFFIC ISSUE.
AND I DO RIGHT NOW WITH THE INTERSECTION THAT IT'S GOING TO BE, BUT IT'S NOT GOING.
OR THAT IT IS, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT, LIKE WE'VE ALL SAID, IT'S ALREADY ON THE BOOKS TO BE UPGRADED BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S LIKE HERD AND CATS IN THAT INTERSECTION.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THAT INTERSECTION'S GOING TO BE WHEN THIS BUSINESS IS THERE.
OUR OUR NEXT SPEAKER CARD IS FROM, UM, PEG IN, IN, I WON'T HEAR YOU SAY THAT.
IN, IN VERY GOOD
I LIVE AT 1630 WEST IRONWOOD DRIVE IN ANDERSON SPRINGS RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM GRACE.
AND I ALSO WILL SAY I'M TIRED OF THAT CORNER NOT HAVING A PROSPEROUS BUSINESS.
IT WAS A CVS, IT WAS TWO PET STORES.
NOW IT LOOKS PRETTY AWFUL 'CAUSE IT'S BOARDED UP.
UM, I KNEW ABOUT THIS FRONT BECAUSE I WAS GIVEN MANY PLIERS ON MY DOOR.
SOMEONE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY MAKING PLIERS AND POSTED THEM ON ALL OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DOORS ABOUT THE VARIOUS MEETINGS THAT WE HAD.
UM, SOME OF THE CONCERNS, THE TRAFFIC, YEAH, IT'S A BAD INTERSECTION.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S GONNA MAKE IT ANY WORSE BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE, AS STATED BEFORE, PEOPLE WILL GO TO THE QT IF THEY'RE GOING WEST MONTE RAY OR IF THEY'RE COMING SOUTH ON DOBSON, THEY'RE GOING THE OTHER DIRECTIONS.
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UM, AS FAR AS THE KIDS AND TUTOR TIME, I THINK TUTOR TIME.MOMS AND DADS MAY LIKE THE QUICK, THE QUICK TRIP RIGHT THERE.
'CAUSE THEY CAN ZIP OVER THERE FOR THEIR MORNING COFFEE OR THEIR SNACK, OR MYSELF, A DIET PEPSI AND THE KIDS FROM SETON.
I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THEM.
BUT AFTER SCHOOL, I SEE SO MANY HIGH SCHOOL KIDS WALKING DOWN DOBSON.
IF THEY WANNA SNACK, AS YOU KNOW, MOST HIGH SCHOOL KIDS DO.
THEY EITHER HAVE TO CROSS DOBSON TO GET TO FRIES OR THEY HAVE TO CROSS RAY TO GET TO THE CHEVRON HERE THEY CAN JUST WALK ON THE SIDEWALK TO THE QT GORGE THEMSELVES.
UM, THE OTHER ISSUE WAS POSSIBLE HOMELESSNESS.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HOMELESSNESS PEOPLE.
WE, WE DO HAVE HOMELESS PEOPLE IN CHANDLER.
UM, I'VE SEEN PEOPLE LIVE BEHIND SPROUTS, UH, IN ANDERSON SPRINGS.
WE HAD FOR SEVERAL MONTHS DURING COVID.
WE HAD A WOMAN LIVING IN THAT BUS STOP AT RAY IN PENNINGTON.
UM, I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY AT CHEVRON AND I DON'T THINK I'LL SEE ANY QUICKTRIP.
I JUST WANT A PROSPEROUS BUSINESS THERE.
UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I LIVE ON 2141 NORTH EVERGREEN STREET.
UH, I'VE LIVED IN CHANDLER FOR ABOUT NINE YEARS, UH, WORK AT THE CHEVRON FOR EIGHT YEARS AND I'VE SEEN HOW BAD THE INTERSECTION CAN BE AND I SEE A LOT OF THE STUDENTS CROSS THE STREET ALL THE TIME AND I'M WORRIED AND CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR SAFETY AND I'M HOPING THAT THIS QT DOESN'T GET PUT THERE JUST FOR THE OP CHANCE THAT IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE MORE DANGEROUS OR MAKE THE DISSECTION MORE DANGEROUS FOR THE STUDENTS.
AND THAT'S ALL I REALLY GOTTA SAY.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER CARD IS TYLER GRESH.
SITTING NEXT TO TRISTAN GRESH, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
SIR, DO YOU HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES? AWESOME.
I LIVE AT 2141 NORTH EVERGREEN STREET.
UH, I'M NOT FOR THIS QT FOR THE OBVIOUSLY STATE OF REASONS AND ISSUES WITH DATA AND ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AS FAR AS WHAT COULD BE GO, WHAT CAN GO THERE, I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF OTHER THINGS THAT CAN GO THERE THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AND ACTUALLY WORK BETTER WITH THE SCHOOL AND DAYCARE.
UH, HAVING THAT QT THERE, THAT'S JUST A LOT OF EXTRA TRAFFIC FOR THIS.
THE TOUR TIME BUSES, THE PARENT TRAFFIC, AND OF COURSE THE CHILDREN COMING IN AND OUT.
UH, OVERALL, I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S A SAFE OPTION.
AND OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JUSTIN WITT.
MR. WITT, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
ADDRESS IS 1560 WEST IRONWOOD DRIVE.
UM, I'M FOR THE QT GOING IN ON THE CORNER OF RAY DOBSON.
I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE CITY, GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND GOOD FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE LOCATION'S BEEN EMPTY FOR FAR TOO LONG.
IF OTHER BUSINESSES COULD WORK THERE, THEY WOULD'VE GONE IN THERE ALREADY.
QT THINKS THEY CAN MAKE IT WORK AND I APPLAUD THEM FOR THAT.
WHEN THE INTERSECTION RECONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETE, MEDIAN BARRIERS WILL CONTROL THE TR FLOW OF TRAFFIC.
THERE'S ALSO RED LIGHT CAMERAS AT THAT INTERSECTION.
YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE ARE RUNNING RED LIGHTS, DOING THINGS ILLEGAL, THAT'S SUPPOSED TO CATCH 'EM.
UM, I THINK THE, UH, FIRST PRESENTER, THE OWNER OF THE CHEVRON, UH, HAVING A MONOPOLY ON THAT INTERSECTION.
I JUST THINK HE'S AFRAID OF COMPETITION.
I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY AND AGAIN, GOOD FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS GRETCHEN RENBAUM.
SOUNDS LIKE TANENBAUM LIKE STREET.
IF YOU COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES.
GRETCHEN RENBAUM 1 7 6 2 WEST GARY DRIVE, CHANDLER BOULEVARD, UM, IN CHANDLER.
AND, UM, I JUST THINK THAT, I REALIZE THERE'S BEEN A VACUUM THERE FOR A WHILE AND A VACUUM REALLY WANTS TO BE FILLED.
BUT I THINK WE NEED TO NOT JUST INFILL THIS SPACE WITHOUT MUCH MORE CAREFUL CONSIDERATION THOUGHT AND INDEPENDENT RESEARCH.
I FIND IT A LITTLE BIT INTERESTING THAT A LOT OF THE STATS WERE RELATED TO QUICKTRIP VERSUS OTHER KINDS OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE THE SAME.
IT DID NOT ADDRESS THINGS LIKE WHAT OTHER KINDS OF BUSINESSES COMPARED TO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS RELATED TO STATS WITH CRIMINAL STATISTICS, HOMELESSNESS, CRIME AND SO FORTH.
UM, I THINK IT'S VERY SKEWED BECAUSE OF THAT.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF INDEPENDENT RESEARCH ON THIS SITUATION.
I'VE LIVED THERE FOR 30 YEARS.
I LIVED LITERALLY ON, UM, DOBSON
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AND RAY JUST EAST OF THE, UH, FRIES.AND I'VE SEEN THE TRAFFIC GET HORRENDOUSLY WORSE.
UM, AND I AM, UH, ALL THE NEIGHBORS THAT I TALK TO ARE ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO THIS.
SO I'M GONNA BE A SE SQUEAKY WHEEL ON THAT SIDE.
I DON'T KNOW, THE CHEVRON PEOPLE NEVER MET THEM.
MY CONCERN IS WITH THAT AREA, THAT TRAFFIC AREA IS HORRENDOUS.
IT'S GOTTEN WORSE EVERY YEAR AND I THINK WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH RESEARCH AND INDEPENDENT LOOKING AT IT TO TELL US WHAT IT'S REALLY ALL ABOUT.
AND I THINK THAT, UM, FOCUSING ON HOW MANY MORE CARS ARE GONNA GO BY IS NOT THE ISSUE.
THE ISSUE AGAIN IS HOW MANY STARTS AND STOPS, INS AND OUTS AND THINGS THAT ARE GONNA CAUSE TRAFFIC OBSTACLES THERE THAT ARE GOING TO POTENTIALLY INCREASE.
AND I DON'T THINK A MEDIAN IS GOING TO NECESSARILY SOLVE ALL OF THOSE PROBLEMS. I THINK IT WILL HELP, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO DO EVERYTHING.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS PROPOSED OPTION IS BETTER THAN THE FRY GAS STATION THAT WAS PROPOSED IN THAT SAME AREA, RAY AND DOBSON AND WAS TURNED DOWN.
HOW, HOW IS THIS ONE DIFFERENT OR BETTER OR DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF MEETING PARTICULAR REQUIREMENTS THAN THE FRY'S WAS, WHICH WAS TURNED DOWN I THINK JUST A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
SO MY CONCERN IS THAT WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION AND THAT, UM, SOME OF THE INFORMATION WE'RE GETTING IS AGAIN, NOT INDEPENDENT.
AND THAT I, AND I FEEL THAT, UM, WE NEED TO, TO REALLY BE MORE CAREFUL AND IS THIS REALLY A FORWARD THINKING APPROACH TO WHAT WE WANT IN OUR CITY IN TERMS OF DO WE NEED A GAS STATION WITH EIGHT PUMPS THAT ARE GONNA HAVE THINGS THAT HOPEFULLY DOWN THE ROAD WON'T BE NEEDED WHEN WE HAVE ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I JUST THINK IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE FORWARD THINKING THAT WE NEED AND I DON'T THINK IT'S INDEPENDENT THINKING NECESSARILY BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN GATHERED TO DATE.
AND OUR LAST SPEAKER IS DANIEL PESTA.
MR. PESTA, YOU COULD PLEASE COME STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
YOU HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES, SIR.
UM, MY ADDRESS IS 9 0 3 NORTH SELITA DEL.
SO, UM, I'M VICE PRESIDENT OF THE CAPRIANA HOA, WHICH IS DIRECTLY SOUTH, UM, ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF DOBSON AND RAY.
UM, I'VE HAD NUMEROUS RESIDENTS TALK TO ME ABOUT, UM, THE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.
IT'S ALREADY ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO TURN, UM, WEST OUT OF OUR DEVELOPMENT TO GET TO THE 1 0 1 FREEWAY.
UM, THERE SHOULD BE A LIGHT AT IVANHOE AND RAY.
UM, I'VE TALKED TO, WE'VE TRIED TO GET A LIGHT PUT IN THERE.
I GUESS THE TRAFFIC STUDY DOESN'T WARRANT IT RIGHT NOW, BUT, UM, IT IS REALLY HARD TO TURN, UM, WEST OUT OF THERE.
AND IF YOU, YOU STOP AT THE LIGHT, YOU CAN TELL, UM, WE END UP, A LOT OF TIMES WE TURN RIGHT AND THEN MAKE A U-TURN AT TUTOR TIME JUST BECAUSE IT'S THE SAFEST WAY TO GET THROUGH THERE.
UM, THERE'S FOUR SCHOOLS NEARBY.
MY CHILDREN GO TO ANDERSON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, SO, UM, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT MORE CHILDREN WALKING THROUGH THIS AREA.
SO IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY, IT'S ABOUT CHILDREN WALKING.
UM, AND THEN DO WE REALLY EVEN NEED ANOTHER GAS STATION IN THE AREA? THERE ARE EIGHT OTHER GAS STATIONS IN THE AREA ALREADY WITHIN A MILE AND A HALF.
UM, AND LIKE THEY SAID, THE FRY'S GAS STATION TRY TO BE PUT IN THERE, UM, ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.
AND THAT WAS NOT ALLOWED BECAUSE WE DON'T EVEN NEED ANOTHER GAS STATION.
UM, WE'RE GOING TO MORE ELECTRONIC VEHICLES.
UM, SO I FEEL LIKE GAS STATIONS ARE GONNA BE LESS POPULAR IN THE FUTURE.
UM, THEY MENTIONED THAT ALL THIS BUILDING OF FRY'S, UH, UH, ON FRY ROAD OF APARTMENT BUILDINGS, UM, THOSE PEOPLE WON'T BE GOING TO THIS GAS STATION ANYWAY BECAUSE IT'S NOT A DESTINATION, AS WAS STATED.
UM, YOU USUALLY GO AS A PASS BY.
SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE TRAVELING, PASSING BY HERE TO GET TO THIS GAS STATION.
ALSO, THIS IS A GIANT CORPORATE COMPANY.
IF THEY DO PUT A SMALL BUSINESS OUT OF, OUT OF BUSINESS, LIKE THE CHEVRON IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THEM, UM, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO THAT VACANT LOT? 'CAUSE THAT WILL BE A VACANT LOT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ZONED AS A GAS STATION AS WELL.
SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION AND LET YOU KNOW THAT I OPPOSE THIS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY DO AS WELL.
WELL, COUNSEL, WE'VE PROBABLY HAD ABOUT 17 CARDS, UM, AND AGAIN, THERE ARE PROBABLY ABOUT NINE THAT WILL BE WRITTEN IN INTO THE RECORD, VERY SIMILAR, UH, THOUGHT AND BANE OF COMMENTS.
UM, I, I'LL I'LL START OFF WITH COMMENTS AND THEN IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO CALL SOMEBODY ELSE BACK TO TALK OR, OR CLARIFY AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHERE THIS GOES.
UM, IT'S BEEN MENTIONED A COUPLE TIMES, THE, THE FRYS GAS STATION, AND THAT WAS FOR OUR, OUR FAIRLY NEW FOLKS.
THIS WAS A DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS TUCKED IN ON HUNTINGTON ON THE NORTH, UH, EAST SIDE OF THE FRIES THERE.
IT WAS BACKED UP RIGHT AGAINST THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND COUNCIL AT THAT TIME OPPOSED THAT BECAUSE
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IT WAS LITERALLY, UH, I DON'T, IT WAS, IT WAS RIGHT NEXT TO THE RESIDENCE.LIKE IT, IT BACKED UP AGAINST THE RESIDENCE WALL.
SO THAT WAS THE, THE STORY OF THAT.
THEN THERE WAS NOT A QUESTION OF WHETHER AT THAT TIME THAT COUNCIL THOUGHT, UH, A GAS STATION WAS GOOD OR BAD.
IT WAS JUST COUNCIL, UH, OPPOSED THE LOCATION OF THAT.
AND I DON'T THINK THE DEVELOPER ACTUALLY BROUGHT THIS TO A CASE TO US.
I THINK THEY, THEY, UM, SAW THAT THEY WEREN'T GAINING TRACTION, SO THAT THAT WAS WHY THAT ONE WASN'T DEVELOPED.
IT WAS JUST THE LOCATION RIGHT NEXT TO RESIDENTS.
SO COUNSEL, HOW, UH, WHAT COMMENTS DO YOU HAVE OR WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO VICE MAYOR? YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO CALL BACK UP QT BECAUSE, UM, THERE WAS A COUPLE OF CONCERNS I WANTED THEM TO ADDRESS BECAUSE IT WAS CALLED OUT WHEN THEY WERE, UM, SPEAKING, AND I JUST KIND OF WANT TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW THAT MR. GREATHOUSE THAT RESPONSE.
IT IS GONNA BE, UM, YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER.
I THINK IT'S GONNA BE FOR A DIFFERENT PERSON.
BUT, UM, THE FIRST QUESTION WAS CORPORATE RESPONSIBILITY.
I REALLY WANTED TO KNOW, UM, QTS CORPORATE RESPONSIBILITY AND THEN WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR CHANDLER, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND THAT'S WHAT I HEARD THAT WAS, UM, BEING ASKED, WHAT IS YOUR CORPORATE RESPONSIBILITY AND WHAT DOES THAT SPECIFICALLY LOOK LIKE FOR CHANDLER? AND I WILL PROBABLY SAY MORE IN THAT AREA TO SEE WHAT, WHAT STEPS OR APPROACHES ARE YOU LOOKING TO TAKE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT JUST HERE RECEIVING THE PROFITS, BUT YOU'RE ALSO BEING MINDFUL OF PUTTING IT BACK INTO CHANDLER.
YEAH, SO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO CORPORATELY WIDE IS 5% OF OUR EARNINGS GO BACK TO CORPORATE IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND WHAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE, IT'S ACTUALLY THE STORE EMPLOYEES MAKE UP HOW WE DECIDE WHERE THE CHARITIES GO.
SO IT'S A COMMITTEE THAT, UM, THEY MEET ONCE A QUARTER AND THEN THOSE STORE EMPLOYEES WILL TAKE ALL THE APPLICATIONS AND THEY GO THROUGH THEM AND THEN THEY DECIDE LOCALLY.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE TRENCHES EVERY DAY.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT SEE WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS ARE.
SO THEY'RE THE ONES THAT DECIDE WHERE THE FUNDS GO LOCALLY.
AND THAT HAPPENS, UM, NOT JUST HERE IN ARIZONA, BUT UH, EVERYWHERE.
SO THAT WAY IF A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION IS DOING GOOD AND IT'S HELPING THEM AND IT'S HELPING THEM WITH THE, THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY GET THE MONEY VERSUS JUST CORPORATELY SOMEONE DECIDING, HEY, WE SHOULD GIVE IT TO THIS CHARITY OR THAT CHARITY.
SO THAT'S HOW ALL OF THE FUNDS GET DIVIDED UP LOCALLY IS IT'S DONE BY A, A TEAM OF STORE EMPLOYEES WHO, WHO KNOW BETTER THAN SOMEONE AT CORPORATE WOULD HOW TO BEST ALLOCATE THE FUNDS.
UM, IN TERMS OF OTHER SUSTAINABILITY AND, UM, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, WE DO HAVE A SUSTAINABILITY TEAM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO LOOK AT JUST NOT ONLY FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT, BUT JUST FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT AND HOW WE CAN GROW, GROW OUR BUSINESS AND CONTINUE TO BE RESPONSIBLE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING HERE SPECIFICALLY ON THIS SITE IS WE'RE RETAINING ALL THE EXISTING LANDSCAPE BECAUSE IT'S MORE SUSTAINABLE AND IT'S MORE, LESS ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.
THERE'S A LOT OF MATURE ESTABLISHED LANDSCAPE ON THIS SITE AND IT'S VERY BEAUTIFUL AND IT DOES A VERY GOOD JOB OF SCREENING AND WE'RE KEEPING ALL OF THAT.
SO WE TRY TO DO AND LOOK AT THOSE THINGS TO HOW WE CAN BETTER AND BE MORE SUSTAINABLE AND ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY COMPANY.
AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION'S PROBABLY GONNA BE FOR THE ATTORNEY, UM, IS TO, I WANTED TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE SETBACKS AROUND THE QT AND THE PAD.
JUST KIND OF WANTED TO LEARN THE SETBACKS IN TERMS OF, UM, THE SCHOOL WHERE IT'S ACTUALLY POSITIONED AT.
I JUST KIND OF WANTED YOU JUST TO SHARE WHERE THE, HOW THE SETBACKS AND HOW MANY FEET IS THAT FROM THE, UM, FROM THE DAYCARE, FROM THE SCHOOL, THE SIDEWALK, UM, TO ALLOW PEDESTRIANS TO WALK.
SO IT'D BE PROBABLY IN THE EARLIER PHOTO YOU SHARED WITH US.
IT'S TIME TO GO TO ENGINEERING 1 0 1 NOW,
I THINK YOU HAD ANOTHER SLIDE THAT ACTUALLY BROUGHT IN THE, UM, GAVE US A LITTLE WIDER OUT SHOWING WHERE THE SCHOOL WAS IN THE DAYTIME AS WELL.
IS THIS WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, MAYOR? IS THIS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? YES, THIS, YES.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE, WE WE'RE FAR SET BACK FROM, UH, RAY ON THE SOUTH, WHICH IS ON THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND
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SIDE OF YOUR, OF YOUR, OF THE SCREEN THAT THE CANOPY AND THE, UH, QT STORE SET BACK FAR FROM THE EAST SIDE WHERE, WHERE DOBSON ROAD IS LOCATED.UM, BASED ON THE SCALE OF THIS, THIS DRAWING, IT LOOKS LIKE THE TUDOR TIME IS SET BACK EVEN GREATER THAN THE SETBACK ALONG DOBSON ROAD OR ABOUT A SIMILAR DISTANCE, UM, FROM THE BACK OF THE QT BUILDING TO THE, TO THE PLAYGROUND AT THE TWO TIME.
UH, ON THE NORTH SIDE, THERE'S LESS OF A SETBACK, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S A, A PARKING LOT THERE FOR SETON.
AND IN FACT, WHEN WE MET WITH SETON, THEY ASKED US TO INSTALL A SEVEN FOOT WALL ALONG THE NORTH, NORTH PROPERTY LINE OF THE QT SITE.
AND WE'VE DONE THAT, WE'VE AGREED TO IT AND IT'S SHOWN ON THE, ON THE SITE PLAN.
AND IN TERMS OF THE, DID UH, UM, UH, KINDER CARE, THE DAYCARE, DID THEY ASK FOR A WALL? DID THEY ASK OR DID THEY JUST ASK FOR SPEED MITIGATION? UM, SPEED MITIGATION, LIKE BUMPS AND STUFF, BUT I WANTED TO KNOW, DID THEY ASK FOR A BARRIER WALL AS WELL? YEAH, I'M UNAWARE OF THEM ASKING FOR A BARRIER WALL, TANYA.
THEY JUST, WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, ADDING LIGHT AT THE DUMPSTER, ADDING SOME, I CAN'T POINT TO IT ON HERE, BUT ADDING SOME SIGNS ON THEIR PARKING THAT SAY FORT TIME ONLY, NO QUICKTRIP CUSTOMERS, UM, PUTTING THE SPEED BUMPS IN, ADDING JUST SIGNS INSIDE THE SITE TO DIRECT QT CUSTOMERS.
AND SO LET 'EM KNOW TO TRY TO AVOID GOING THROUGH THE TUTOR TIME PORTION OF THE SHARED ACCESS.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS WHAT THEY ASKED FOR.
AND THEN, UH, I GUESS MY LAST QUESTION, LEMME SEE AGAIN, UM, YES, FROM THE TIME THAT, UM, SO IF THIS PROJECT BUMPS UP AGAINST OUR CAPITAL, UH, PLAN FOR IMPROVING, FOR WIDENING, ROAD WIDENING, UM, WHAT DOES THAT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AND, AND, AND, AND WILL YOU BE PREPARING FOR THAT? IF THIS WAS TO, TO GO ACROSS THE FINISH LINE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE, THE DOBSON ROAD MEDIAN IMPROVEMENTS? YES.
AND, AND IN CONNECTION WITH WHEN THE QT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED AND OPENED? YES.
UH, ONE THING WE HAVE TO DISCUSSED WITH YOUR, YOUR STAFF IS IF THERE'S A GAP IN BETWEEN, LET'S SAY A SIX MONTH GAP OF WHEN A QT STORE WOULD OPEN VERSUS WHEN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT WOULD BE COMPLETED, THAT WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO INSTALL WHAT'S CALLED THE PORK CHOP, UM, DIVERTING TRAFFIC RIGHT IN AND RIGHT OUT, WHICH EFFECTIVELY DOES THE SAME SORT OF THING AS A, AS A MEDIAN WOOD MEDIAN'S, A LITTLE MORE PERMANENT AND, AND HARDER TO VIOLATE.
BUT WE'D BE HAPPY TO INSTALL A PORK CHOP IF THAT WAS REQUIRED IN, IN AN INTERIM SOLUTION.
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCIL, MAYOR.
COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART? UH, THANK YOU.
SO ON THE CHARITIES THAT, THE FOUR STORES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN CHANDLER, DO YOU KNOW WHO THEY GIVE TO AT THIS CURRENT TIME? I, NO, I APOLOGIZE.
I DON'T KNOW ALL THE SPECIFIC CHARITIES THAT THEY, THAT THEY GIVE TO.
I CAN FIND THAT OUT AND GET BACK, GET THAT INFORMATION OVER TO YOU VERY QUICKLY.
UM, SO WHAT WAS THE TIMING ON THE TUTOR TIME LETTER THAT SAID THEY WERE AGAINST IT VERSUS WHAT WE'RE HEARING TODAY WAS LIKE OKAY.
WITH SOME STIPULATIONS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO MENTIONED? GOOD QUESTION.
IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A ROLLER COASTER RIDE WITH TUTOR TIME.
UH, WE INITIALLY REACHED OUT TO TUTOR TIME AND THEY TOLD US THAT THEY HAD NO OPPOSITION, UM, AND THEY WERE NOT OBJECTING TO THE QT UH, BEN PLANNING STAFF REACHED OUT TO TUTOR TIME AS WELL AND AS DESCRIBED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, UH, TUTOR TIME TOLD BEN THAT THEY HAD NO, NO OBJECTIONS.
UM, THE DAY OF, I UNDERSTAND THE DAY OF THE MARCH 21ST CITY COUNCIL, UH, MEETING, THERE WAS A LETTER SUBMITTED BY TUTOR TIME.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE, UH, OPPOSITION LETTERS ON RECORD THAT DAVID MILLER, UH, SHOWED YOU ALL, UM, OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH.
AND, AND I HAVE EMAILS
UH, AND THEN CAN YOU SEND THAT TO ME REAL QUICK? YEAH, WELL, NOT, NOT RIGHT NOW, BUT WHEN YOU SIT DOWN, YEAH.
UH, AND THEN YOU HEARD DAVID MILLER SAY THAT HE, HE TALKED TO TUTOR TIME TODAY AT 4:00 PM AND, AND THEY'RE IN OPPOSITION.
SO IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF, OF THIS THROUGH THE PROCESS.
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UM, FOR ME, THIS REALLY HAS BEEN CENTERING AROUND TRAFFIC.LIKE I'VE HEARD A LOT OF THE OPPOSITION, MUCH OF THE OPPOSITION IS, I, I'VE LEARNED NOW IS FROM A COMPETITOR IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND AS A CITY, YOU KNOW, OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO FACILITATE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS.
WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY HERE TO PROTECT OUR SMALL BUSINESS OWNER.
WE, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS WELL.
BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE HERE IS THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO BLOW OUT THIS INTERSECTION.
UM, I DON'T KNOW, DO WE HAVE THE POWER TO MOVE THAT UP? SO THIS TIMES AND GETS IN LINE, I KNOW THERE'S SOME FEDERAL FUNDING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND I DON'T WANNA GET INTO THE WHERE TOS AND WHAT FORWARDS THEM, THE DETAILS, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S A HUGE SOLUTION TO A MAJOR PROBLEM THAT MANY OF THE OP OPPOSING NEIGHBORS HAVE ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE.
I DON'T THINK THAT THE CRIME IS, UH, ANY DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER CONVENIENCE STORE OR ANY OTHER LOCATION, BUT THE TRAFFIC REALLY SEEMS TO BE AN ISSUE.
AND IF WE CAN SOLVE FOR THAT FASTER, UM, MAYBE WE CAN FIND A COMPROMISE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE UP HERE TO DO, IS TO FIND A COMPROMISE THAT WORKS FOR THE NEIGHBORS.
WHAT CAN WE DO? CITY MANAGER? YEAH.
UM, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE THE PROJECT IS PARTIALLY FEDERALLY FUNDED AND THAT IS TIMED IN SEQUENCE.
SO JUST LIKE WE COMPETE FOR PROJECTS THROUGH MAG OR THROUGH ANY OF THE OTHER FEDERAL SOURCES, WE KIND OF GET IN LINE.
UM, AND, AND WE GET CALLED WHEN WE GET CALLED AND WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO PURSUE SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
UM, SO IN THIS CASE, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THE COUNCIL WANTED TO MOVE UP, WE WOULD HAVE TO SEEK SOME OTHER SOURCE OF FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THAT PROJECT OR PERHAPS TRY TO ADVANCE THAT UP IN THE SCHEDULE.
UM, WE CERTAINLY COULD, 'CAUSE WE'RE IN DESIGN NOW, WE COULD PURSUE THAT.
I CAN'T GUARANTEE FROM MY POSITION HERE TODAY THAT THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE.
UM, BUT IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S DIRECTION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO AGGRESSIVELY PURSUE MOVING THAT PROJECT PERHAPS AHEAD OF AN OF, OF OTHERS ON THE LIST OR TRYING TO GET THAT FUNDING SOONER, UH, WE COULD CERTAINLY TRY CITY MANAGER.
UM, SO WHAT'S THE RISK REWARD HERE AS IT RELATES TO THE FUNDING? RIGHT.
WE HAVE A, A NUMBER OF OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE TO DO HERE IN THE CITY.
UM, AS MUCH AS PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED WITH SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING SOME REALLY GOOD ROAD CONSTRUCTION DONE.
SO WHAT'S THE RISK REWARD FROM A TIMELINE? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS, RIGHT? WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? CAN WE GET REIMBURSED? YEAH.
MR. MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART, TYPICALLY WE HAVE TO OBLIGATE THE FEDERAL FUNDING, UH, BY A CERTAIN TIME.
SO WE HAVE TO BE READY WITH DESIGN, HAVE FINAL APPROVAL, UH, FROM YOU TO PROCEED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION, AND THEN THAT ALLOWS US TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT FUNDING.
IN THIS CASE, IT'S A MIX OF FUNDING.
I ACTUALLY PULLED THIS ITEM UP IN OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM TO MAKE SURE I HAD IT STRAIGHT IN MY HEAD.
SO IT'S A MIX OF LOCAL BOND FUNDING FROM VOTER APPROVED BONDS, AS WELL AS SOME CAPITAL GRANTS THAT ARE ANTICIPATED FROM THE FEDERAL SOURCES.
SO, UM, IF THAT WAS THE DESIRE, AGAIN TO TRY TO SWAP THAT OUT, THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE'D HAVE TO HAVE.
BUT YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF BUDGET SEASON RIGHT NOW, AND WE COULD SEE WHAT AVAILABILITY THAT IS.
THAT'S PROBABLY A CONVERSATION WE NEED TO HAVE OFFLINE.
OR DO YOU WANNA WHISPER ME THE NUMBER? OH, HOW, HOW MUCH IS THE, HOW MUCH IS IT? YEAH, YEAH.
SO, MR. MAYOR, UH, COUNCILOR STEWART, THE PROJECT IS CURRENTLY BUDGETED FOR $10.3 MILLION.
THAT IS THE CONSTRUCTION ONLY.
SO THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE DESIGN AND OTHER, THERE'S SOME RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION, THINGS LIKE THAT IN PREVIOUS YEARS.
UH, A LITTLE OVER 10.3 MILLION.
I WON'T GO TO ALL THE DETAILED NUMBERS.
UH, ABOUT 3.3 MILLION OF THAT IS COMING FROM, UH, THE GRANT SOURCE.
UH, AND ABOUT 6.9 MILLION IS SHOWN FROM YOUR LOCAL BOND FUNDING AT THIS TIME.
CAN WE GET, CAN WE WORK WITH DANIEL THE, UH, H-O-A-V-P ON THAT TRAFFIC STUDY AND, AND KIND OF HELP HIM OUT ON THAT TOO, PLEASE? THANK YOU.
YEAH, I, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IF COUNCIL DOES VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS, THAT AS MUCH AS ANY, THAT'S AN, IF I'M NOT PUTTING WORDS IN ANYBODY'S MOUTH, BUT TO ME THAT WOULD ALSO BE A PLUS TO TRY TO ALIGN THESE TO WHERE THAT, UH, ANY, IF THERE WAS A TEMPORARY SOLUTION THAT WOULD BE LESS INHIBITED.
BUT I, I'M NOT ONE FOR WANTING TO TURN DOWN A $3 MILLION, UH, FEDERAL, UH, FUNDING OF THIS QUEUE.
AND, UH, IF, IF THERE'S A WAY TO DO THAT, UM, COUNCILMAN BURESS IS NEXT.
THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT, UM, I WILL SAY MORE LIKE QUESTIONABLE WAYS OF GETTING THOSE SIGNATURES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED.
AND TRULY I'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE WHO TRULY HAVE TO GAIN FROM THE QT NOT BEING THERE VERSUS THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
MAJORITY OF THOSE WHO HAVE SPOKEN.
UM, IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FREE MARKET SOLUTIONS, WHICH IS BASICALLY WHAT THIS WHOLE COUNTRY IS BASED ON, IS THE FACT THAT EVERY ONE OF US HAVE A RIGHT TO PUT OUR BUSINESS AS LONG AS IT'S VIABLE
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AND IT'S, UH, GOING TO HELP THE COMMUNITY IN A PLACE WHERE WE WANT TO PUT IT JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE HAVE A BUSINESS THERE.THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CANNOT PUT ANOTHER BUSINESS SIMILAR TO THAT.
I'VE HEARD A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT HOW MANY, UM, GAS STATION WE HAVE WITHIN AN AMOUNT OF, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE, UH, THE APPLICANT SPEAK TO THE MANNER THAT THOSE, UH, SIGNATURES WERE TAKEN, NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO IS THAT I MOVE IN ANDERSON SPRING IN 1990.
I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TO BUY A HOUSE IN THAT CORNER.
OH, SHE'S LIVING, SHE KNOWS IN 1999 WHEN I MOVE OUT FROM THERE, WE HAD TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.
I HAVE WATCHED THAT CORNER, I HAVE WATCHED THAT CHEVRON IN A BAD SHAPE, SO NOT BAD SHAPE.
AND NOW I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE IF I GO BY, THE GAS IS SO EXPENSIVE, I CAN EVEN BUY IT.
AND SO MY CONCERN AT THIS TIME IS THAT, AM I STOPPING EVERYBODY ELSE THAT LIVES IN CHANDLER FROM BEING ABLE TO SAVE ON GAS TO BE ABLE TO BE CONVENIENTLY GO THERE WHEN THEY ARE DRIVING WEST, GOING TO THE FREEWAY TO GET THEIR GAS? AM I STOPPING THEM, THEM FROM BEING ABLE TO DO THAT AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS CONCERN, UH, ANSWERED CONCERNING HOW THOSE SIGNATURES WERE COLLECTED.
BECAUSE ONE TIME WHEN I STOPPED AT THE CHEVRON AT THE FRONT DESK, THERE WAS SOMEBODY WHO WAS ASKING FOR US TO SIGN BECAUSE THEY SAID, IF WE DIDN'T SIGN, THEY'RE GONNA LOSE THEIR JOBS.
SO I WANNA KNOW ABOUT THAT, HOW THOSE SIGNATURES WERE COLLECTED.
UM, WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS HER QUESTION ABOUT HOW WERE THE SIGNATURES COLLECTED? UH, THROUGH THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER? THE SIGNATURES WERE COLLECTED, UH, PRIMARILY BY BILL STE CONSULTING THEIR, THEIR TEAM.
UM, THEIR, THEIR TEAM IS MADE UP OF, UH, VOLUNTEERS, UH, PEOPLE WHO THEY FOUND JUST LOVE QT AND THEY ALSO HAVE PAID EMPLOYEES THAT, UM, GATHERED THESE SIGNATURES.
UM, THEY, I DON'T KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WAS SHOWN.
THIS IS WHAT WAS SHOWN TO PEOPLE AS THEY WERE REQUESTING SIGNATURES.
THE FRONT AND BACK OF THAT TO SHOW THEM WHAT THE KEY SHEET.
AND YOU MAY TAKE THESE ONE, TWO FROM THAT.
SO WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME AT THIS TIME, AND THAT THEY WERE HONESTLY COLLECTED BY A COMPANY THAT YOU HIRED TO DO THAT, IT WAS NOT YOUR EMPLOYEES STANDING ON A CORNER TRYING TO GET SIGNATURES.
THEY, I BELIEVE THEY HAD A QT BADGE.
BUT THEY WERE NOT QT EMPLOYEES.
THEY HAD, THEY HAD A QT BADGE SO THAT PEOPLE WHO WORKED AT THAT QT STORE KNEW THAT THEY WERE ON, ON SITE AND, UH, BUT THEY, THEY'RE NOT EMPLOYEES OF QT.
FOR SAFETY PURPOSES, THAT'S WHY THEY WERE WEARING THE BADGES.
OH, YOU CAN JUST PUT IT, HE'LL GRAB THAT.
WELL, COUNCIL, IF, IF THERE IS NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, UH, A MOTION WOULD BE IN ORDER.
I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART'S PROBABLY IN THE BATHROOM RIGHT NOW, SO BEFORE WE VOTED, YEAH.
COUNSEL, WHAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE HERE TONIGHT, COUNSEL? LET ME ASK AGAIN.
A MOTION WOULD BE IN ORDER TO, UH, DO YOU EITHER REQUEST THAT THIS GOES ON OR IS DENIED HERE? I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT, UM, THAT WE APPROVE THIS DEVELOPMENT.
I, AS, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I, I DO NOT GO TO QT, BUT THEY DID PUT ONE UP ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY CHURCH.
AND I DID FIND THAT THE COMPETITION WAS GOOD AT THE CIRCLE K THAT I DO GO TO THAT THERE SUDDENLY THERE WAS WATER IN THE WINDSHIELD, WIPER THINGS OR WHERE I COULD DO MY WINDSHIELDS,
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WHERE BEFORE THEY, HONESTLY, I, I WOULD GET FRUSTRATED IF I CAN'T DO MY WINDS, MY WINDSHIELDS THERE.I, I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET OR I, I DRIVE THERE ACROSS THE STREET EVERY DAY AND I, I'VE NOT FOUND TRAFFIC TO BE MORE ONEROUS AND SOMETIMES I'M MAKING A HARD LEFT OUT OF MY PARKING LOT TO HEAD NORTH, UH, CROSS TRAFFIC AND I WAIT A LITTLE BIT.
AND, UM, BUT I'VE, I'VE NOT FOUND IT TO BE ONEROUS.
SO I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 25.
IS THERE A SECOND? MAYOR? I'LL SECOND, UH, WITH SOME COMMENTS.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
AND COUNCIL, BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE COMMENTS? YES.
UM, MAYOR, THIS MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN VERY DIFFICULT, UM, DECISION FOR ME TO COME TO, UM, BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT, UM, I WANTED TO HEAR EVERYTHING.
AND I, I THINK I'VE BEEN INUNDATED WITH, UM, MULTIPLE COMMENTS.
I SPENT A LOT OF TIME PONDERING ON MY MIND.
AND I'M A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, BUT I'M ALSO ALSO BELIEVE IN SOME FRIENDLY COMPETITION TOO.
UM, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT MAKES US, UH, GREAT.
I THINK WE'RE NOT SERVING IN THE MILITARY, IT'S JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
THAT'S ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, BE HONEST WITH YOU, IF I DIDN'T HAVE ANOTHER JOB RIGHT NOW, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THIS JOB.
UM, BECAUSE I HAVE TO WORK AND I HAVE TO COMPETE AND I DON'T, I'M ALWAYS FEELING LIKE I'M AT A DISADVANTAGE 'CAUSE I DON'T, 'CAUSE I'M SPENDING TIME, YOU KNOW, WORKING HARD FOR THE PEOPLE, BUT I ALSO GOTTA LEAVE HERE AND, AND GO WORK TO PROVIDE FOR MY WIFE AND MY FAMILY.
AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S A SACRIFICE.
AND, UM, SOMETIMES, UM, COMPETITION IS GOOD BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AT ONE POINT I OWNED 35 LOCATIONS, UM, 35 TAX AND ACCOUNTING LOCATIONS AND SEVEN DIFFERENT STATES.
AND MY BUSINESS MODEL WAS TO OPEN UP RIGHT NEXT TO THE COMPETITION BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT I WANTED TO BE BETTER THAN THE COMPETITION.
IF THE COMPETITION'S NOT BETTER, I'M GONNA BEAT THEM DOWN REALLY BAD.
AND I PUT TOGETHER STRATEGIES TO DO THAT.
UM, AND I KNOW THIS IS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND I LOVE MY COMMUNITY AND I LOVE MY NEIGHBORS.
UM, MY ONLY RESERVE THAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE QT AND THE CITY WORK TOGETHER TO BUMP UP SO THE TRAFFIC, SO THAT WAY THAT CAN BE TAKEN CARE OF.
I KNOW THAT THEY WANNA GET IT ON QUICKLY, BUT I FEEL VERY UNCOMFORTABLE IF I THINK THAT THERE COULD BE TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS OR ISSUES THAT'S RELATED TO TRAFFIC.
UH, AND I KNOW I'VE READ THROUGH, UH, QT, THEY TALK ABOUT BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
THEY TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND OPENING UP A QT WHILE WE'RE THERE.
NAVIGATING TRAFFIC AND NOT HAVING ENOUGH ROOM CONCERNS ME.
AND I HOPE THAT THE QT FAMILY WOULD GO BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA DO A BETTER JOB AND WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH THE CITY.
WE'RE NOT GONNA OPEN THIS BUILDING.
WE'LL GET IT TOGETHER AND WE'LL START MAKING THE PROPERTY LOOK NICE AND START RENOVATING THE THINGS THAT NEEDS TO LOOK NICE TO MAKE IT PREPARED.
BUT WE'RE GONNA WORK CLOSELY TO MAKE SURE THAT TRAFFIC IS ADDRESSED.
I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
WE ALREADY HAVE SPEED LIGHT CAMERAS THERE, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT, UM, QT UM, UM, QT IS A BUSINESS JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
YOU MAY HAVE TO SPEND SOME TIME DOING IT.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, MAYOR, UM, I, I YIELD MY, UM, I YIELD MY TIME.
UM, AND I'M GOING TO TALK TO EVERYBODY WHEN I LEAVE HERE, UH,
WITH THAT BEING SAID, THANK YOU MAYOR.
BEFORE I ASK ANY OTHERS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO REMINDED ME THAT CAN I, UH, IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE SECOND OF MY MOTION, CAN WE INCLUDE THE, UH, STIPULATION THE STIPULATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE INSURED AND FOLLOWED UP ON? IS THAT T IS THAT, UH, LEGALLY DONE OR DO I NEED TO MAKE A MAYOR? IF I MAY, YOU'LL NEED TO DO A MOTION TO AMEND.
AND THEN YOU'LL NEED AN APPROVAL OF THE MOTION TO AMEND AND THEN YOU CAN VOTE ON THE AMENDED MOTION.
SO DO I MAKE THE MOTION TO AMEND? YOU MAY.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND MY ORIGINAL MOTION THAT INCLUDES THE FOUR, UH, STIPULATIONS TO WORK WITH TUTOR TIME.
AND, UH, IS THERE A SECOND ON MY MOTION TO AMEN.
MAYOR, CAN YOU ADD THE PORK CHOP TURN LANE FOR SAFETY AND UH, YES AND WHATEVER IS NECESSARY.
IF A, IF IN TIMING, IF A PORK CHOP IS NECESSARY, IF, IF THIS TIMING DOES NOT WORK, THAT WE WOULD ALSO,
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UH, INCLUDE THAT THERE, THAT WOULD HAPPEN AND THAT WOULD IT JUST BEING A WRITE IN AND WRITE OUT.IS THERE A SECOND? DO WE NEED TO INCLUDE THE SEVEN FOOT WALL? SOME OF THOSE AGREEMENTS WITH SETON AS WELL, SINCE WE'RE INCLUDING THE AGREEMENTS WITH TUTOR TIME? I, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THIS, THAT WAS ALREADY IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THE SEVEN FOOT WALL HEADING DA DA DIDN'T, YEAH.
UH, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE SEVEN FOOT WALL THAT IS PART OF THE PDP APPROVAL.
IS DOES THIS SATISFY WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO CONTINUE? IF I HAVE A MOTION AND DID I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
AND THIS IS A MOTION TO AMEND THE PREVIOUS MOTION.
ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
UM, AND WE CAN DO THIS THROUGH OUR, OUR VOTE THING HERE.
COUNCIL, PLEASE VOTE TO AMEND THE MOTION.
TO AMEND THE MOTION OR TO, YES, TO AMEND.
WE'RE NOT AMEND VOTING ON THIS.
WE'RE JUST VOTING TO AMEND, TO ADD THE NEW THINGS.
SO WE'RE, YOU'RE NOT SAYING YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT PUTTING YOUR
ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL, PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION TO AMEND, UM, CARRIAGE UNANIMOUSLY.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR STILL CORRECT FOR THE NEW WITH THE AMENDMENTS IS, IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS COUNCIL YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE? UH, LET ME, LET ME, LET'S START OVER.
WE'LL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ENCINAS.
I JUST WANNA THANK ALL THE RESIDENTS FOR BEING PART OF THIS TONIGHT AND BEING HERE.
IT'S ALMOST 9:00 PM UM, YOUR INPUT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US HERE ON COUNCIL, AND WE TAKE THAT IN GREAT CONSIDERATION.
SO I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU GUYS A THANK YOU FOR STILL BEING HERE TODAY AND VOICING YOUR OPINIONS, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS WHO YOU GUYS ARE, OUR BOSSES IS WHO WE'RE LISTENING TO.
SO I JUST WANNA THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING A PART OF THIS PROCESS.
I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING DOWN THIS WAY.
THANK YOU COUNCIL US FOR, UH, SAYING THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT SO MANY OF YOU HAVE COME OUT TONIGHT AND NOT REALLY TELLING US EXACTLY WHERE YOU STAND ON THIS, ON THIS PROJECT AND HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT.
IT'S ALWAYS GOOD FOR US TO HAVE DIALOGUE.
UH, I FEEL THAT, UH, THE APPLICANT REALLY BROUGHT A LOT OF THINGS TO THE TABLE FOR US TO LOOK AT.
SAME THING FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE FEELING THAT YOU DON'T WANT THIS INTO YOUR AREA AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
BUT I WILL LEAVE THIS WITH YOU IF, UM, IF YOU MAY JUST SOMETIMES REALIZE THAT FOR THE GREATER GOOD, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US SOMETIMES HAVE TO REALLY REAL GIVE A LITTLE SO THAT EVERYBODY ELSE CAN BENEFIT FROM IT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
NOTHING FROM ME, MAYOR, BUT JOSH, PLEASE, LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT TRAFFIC AND, AND GETTING THAT INTERSECTION DONE QUICKER, PLEASE.
ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF BITTERSWEET TONIGHT 'CAUSE I'VE WORKED WITH SOME OF YOU ON THE ANDERSON SPRING POST OFFICE AND I WORKED ON SOME OF YOU ON SOME NEIGHBORHOOD ISSUES.
SO EITHER WAY I GO TONIGHT, I WANT YOU TO KNOW I STILL LOVE YOU, AND I'LL STILL RESPOND TO WHATEVER NEED YOU HAVE, BUT AS THE MAYOR SAID EARLIER, IT'S GONNA BE HALF OF YOU, OR SOME OF YOU WILL BE DELIGHTED TONIGHT.
AND SOME OF YOU MAY NOT BE DELIGHTED.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE WORKED WITH QT ON ANOTHER PROJECT.
I THINK YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THE ONE ON, UM, UH, MCQUEEN.
I WORK AT THE RESIDENCE ON THAT ONE.
UH, MAJOR CONCERNS ABOUT IT AND NEVER GOT OFF THE GROUND.
UM, YOU KNOW, UM, MANY OF THE SUPPORTERS THAT I READ AND TALKED TO, THEY DO CONSIDER QT A DESTINATION PLACE.
AND WE HAVE THESE FACTS AND FIGURES, 5%, 2%, 5%.
BUT IF YOU TALK TO THE PEOPLE THAT USE QT AND I HAVE, IT'S A DESTINATION PLACE.
THEY WILL DRIVE OUTSIDE TO GO TO QT FOR WHATEVER REASONS.
UM, THAT'S NOT A BUSINESS MODEL.
THAT'S, THAT'S POSITIVE, THAT'S NOT A THING.
UM, I'M NOT HERE TO PICK WINNERS OR LOSERS.
I'M NOT HERE TO SAY CHEVRON'S ANY BETTER THAN QT.
I HAVE ELECTRIC CAR, BY THE WAY.
I JUST PLUGGED MINE IN AT NIGHT AND I GO, UM, SO I'M NOT HERE TO PICK WINNERS OR LOSERS.
UM, I'M ALSO CONCERNED OF HOW SIGNATURES ARE GATHERED AND HOW IT'S PRESENTED.
WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT BEFORE.
YOU DO A VERY WELL JOB ON THAT.
WE'VE WORKED, WE'VE HAD FOLKS THAT WORK TOGETHER THAT KNOW YOU.
SO I'M NOT REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THAT AS MUCH AS WHAT I AM WORRIED ABOUT, AND I SAID THIS EARLIER TOO, IS WHAT DO THE FOLKS IN THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD
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FEEL ABOUT THIS? AND I ALWAYS ASK MY GUIDEPOSTS, AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF YOU HAVE TOLD ME, FRIENDS, I'VE BEEN TO THE MEETING ALONG WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ENC FRIENDS CAME UP TO ME AT THEIR MEETING AND SAID, MATT, WE'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME.SO IT'S HARD FOR ME TO, TO SAY YES OR NO, THIS AT RIGHT TIME.
BUT, UM, MY, MY ROLE HERE IS, UM, MY CONCERN IS THE INTENSITY OF THIS PROJECT.
I REALLY BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO CREATE MORE OF A ISSUE WITH TRAFFIC AND EVEN WITH THE MEDIA.
AND AS OUR OWN TRAFFIC EXPERTS SAID, IT WILL HELP, I THINK THE WORD WAS WILL HELP TWO AND THREE, BUT REALLY NECESSARILY SOLVE THE WHOLE ISSUE.
I ONLY WISH WE HAD THIS REPORT EARLIER SO WE COULD HAVE DIGESTED IT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND DI AND DISCUSS IT.
SO, UM, UH, WITH THAT, I WON'T BE, UH, SUPPORTING THIS 'CAUSE POSTED.
UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ECHO THE THOUGHTS OF THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
I, WE DID HEAR ALL OF YOUR VOICES.
I HAD A LOT OF CONCERNS WHEN THIS ITEM FIRST CAME UP, UM, AND WALKED THROUGH THEM.
UM, MANY OF THOSE CONCERNS WERE SATISFIED TONIGHT.
AND AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, I AM GOING TO ENCOURAGE MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SUPPORT TAKING A LOOK AT ADDRESSING THE TRAFFIC ISSUES, WHICH I AGREE SEEM TO BE SOME OF THE MOST IMMEDIATE CONCERN AND CONCERNED WHETHER THIS AND, AND A CONCERN FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHETHER THIS ITEM GOES HERE OR NOT, IT SEEMS TO BE AN ISSUE RIGHT NOW.
SO I'D LIKE US TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE, UH, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS.
UH, I BELIEVE VOTING IS AN ORDER.
MOTION PASSES FIVE TO TWO WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ENCINAS AND COUNCIL MEMBER ORLANDO DISSENTING.
UM, COUNSEL, NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS UNSCHEDULED PUBLIC APPEARANCES.
IS THAT STILL TRUE? CITY CLERK MAYOR HARKEY? YES, THERE ARE, THERE ARE NO CARDS.
[ Current Events 1. Mayor's Announcements 2. Council's Announcements 3. City Manager's Announcements]
NEXT IS CURRENT EVENTS.UH, I'VE GOT A COUPLE COMMENTS RELATED TO THIS.
YESTERDAY, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE RESIDENTS THAT SERVE ON OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AT OUR 2024 APPRECIATION EVENT.
I WANTED, UH, PARTICULARLY THANK OUR CLERK'S OFFICE, OUR FIFTH FLOOR STAFF THAT PUT A LOT OF WORK AND ENERGY INTO THIS TO REALLY HONOR OUR, UM, BOARDS AND COMMISSION MEMBERS.
IT WAS A GREAT MORNING OF CONNECTION, A GREAT MORNING OF A GENTLE REMINDER OF THE IMPORTANT WORK AND, AND INSIGHT THAT OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS PROVIDE FOR OUR COUNCIL.
AND OVER THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS, THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER VOLUNTEER RECOGNITION EVENTS SCHEDULED TONIGHT.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD THE CHANDLER POLICE DEPARTMENT VOLUNTEER APPRECIATION BANQUET.
I, I THINK EVEN THE LEFTOVERS HAVE BEEN CLEARED AWAY BY NOW, SO WE WILL NOT BE ATTENDING THERE.
UM, SORRY TO OUR VOLUNTEERS, TOMORROW MORNING IS THE CHANDLER VOLUNTEER RECOGNITION BREAKFAST.
THIS WAS FIRST SUGGESTED OVER A DECADE AGO BY THE CHANDLER NONPROFIT COALITION.
IT WAS DIRECTED AND RAN BY FOR OUR CITY CHANDLER FOR MANY YEARS.
AND NOW IT'S UNDER THE THOUGHTFUL CARE AND DIRECTION OF OUR DIVERSITY, EQUITY, AND INCLUSION STAFF.
SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HONORING OUR VOLUNTEERS TOMORROW AT THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS.
AND, UM, NEXT FRIDAY AFTER OUR ALL DAY BUDGET SESSION IS THE CHANDLER CENTER FOR THE ARTS VOLUNTEER FRIENDS APPRECIATION.
SO THAT WILL BE EXCITING TO, TO HONOR AND PARTICIPATE AS WELL.
THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD WORK BEING DONE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WHETHER YOU SERVE AS A COMMISSIONER OR A VOLUNTEER, YOU ARE THE REASON THAT CHANDLER IS AWESOME AND SPECIAL.
SECONDLY, UH, THIS SATURDAY IS EARTH DAY.
IT'S AN EXCITING EVENT I WANNA MAKE SURE TO HIGHLIGHT BEFORE I TURN OVER TO COUNCIL IS EARTH DAY FROM SATURDAY, FROM NINE UNTIL NOON.
COME ON DOWN TO THE CHANDLER NATURE CENTER TO ENJOY CRAFTS ACTIVITIES, INFORMATION BOOTHS, AND MORE.
THIS FREE FAMILY FRIENDLY EVENT IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUTSIDE, ENJOY OUR BEAUTIFUL VETERANS, OASIS PARK, LEARN ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF CONSERVATION AND SUSTAINABILITY.
AND FINALLY, TO CURRENT AND FORMER CHANDLER HIGH GRADS LIKE MR. ENCINAS.
TOMORROW, SATURDAY WILL BE THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF, UH, OF OUR FAVORITE TACO SPOT ON ARIZONA
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AVENUE AND, UH, ELMER'S.AND, UH, I'LL BE READING A PROCLAMATION THERE AT 11.
AND, UH, SO WE WANNA CELEBRATE ELMER'S AND THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL.
MR. COUNCIL MEMBER ENC, UH, PERFECT.
I'LL BE WITH YOU CELEBRATING WITH A BEAN AND CHEESE BURRITO FROM SWISS SAUCE
UH, BUT NO OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS.
AND I'LL BE THERE TOO BECAUSE THAT'S MY, ONE OF MY FAVORITE PLACE.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO MENTION THAT, UH, A NEW CHANDLER MUSEUM EXHIBIT THAT JUST STARTED NEXT WEEK, APRIL 23RD.
THERE IS AN EXCITING, UH, NEW EXHIBIT AT THE CHANDLER MUSEUM THAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT TONIGHT.
UH, SHE HAS INTERVIEWED AND PHOTOGRAPHED OVER 304TH GRADERS IN OUR SCHOOL, STUDENTS FROM ACROSS THE WORLD, FROM CHINA, FROM NICARAGUA, AND FROM THE US.
SHE HAS COMPILED THEIR STORIES, WHICH IS NOW AN EX AN EXHIBIT AT OUR MUSEUM, HIGHLIGHTING THE CO UH, ALL THE DIFFERENCES OF CHILDHOOD AND ALSO ALL THE COMMENTING THAT THE CHILDHOOD HAS TOGETHER TO ADD LOCAL VOICES TO THIS EXHIBITION.
CHANDLER MUSEUM STAFF, THEY MET WITH LOCAL FOURTH GRADERS AT GALVESTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
AND, UM, THEIR THOUGHTS ARE ALSO ON THIS DISPLAY.
SO THEY PUT EVERYTHING ON DISPLAY FOR ALL OF THEM.
THE FOURTH GRADERS PROJECT WILL BE ON VIEW ON THE CHANDLER MUSEUM, APRIL 23RD UNTIL AUGUST 11TH, 2024.
MAKE SURE YOU CHECK IT OUT FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE THERE.
AND THIS WEEK IS, UH, NATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATION.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO THANK OUR FIRST RESPONDERS THAT ARE IN THE ROOM.
AND IT IS START APRIL 14TH TO APRIL 20TH.
IT IS THE NATIONAL SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATION WEEK.
AS I SAID, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT PROVIDE ESSENTIAL 24 7 SUPPORT TO OUR COMMUNITY, ENSURING THAT OUR RESIDENTS HAVE CRITICAL ACCESS TO CITY SERVICES WHEN THEY NEED IT THE MOST.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.
I WANT TO THANK ALSO, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT,
THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR TONIGHT.
COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART, WHY DON'T WANNA BE QUICK.
C PARK'S COMING UP THIS WEEKEND,
SO WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF EXCITING EVENTS.
CENTER PARK, UH, THE FREE TUMBLEWEED MOVIE SERIES IS STARTING BACK ON MAY 3RD WITH A, UH, VIEWING OF THE SUPER MARIOS BROTHERS MOVIES.
BRING A BLANKET OR A CHAIR, SOME SNACKS AND COME ENJOY, COME ENJOY A MOVIE UNDER THE STARS.
IT'S A A GREAT FAMILY EVENT, SO MAKE SURE YOU'RE THERE.
WATER SAFETY WALK IS COMING UP.
SO AFTER THAT CENTER PARK SHOWING ON MAY 4TH, THAT'S A SATURDAY, COME OUT TO DESERT OASIS AQUATIC CENTER FOR OUR ANNUAL WATER SAFETY WALK.
OUR CHANDLER FIRE DEPARTMENT'S LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS, SO PING THEM AND LET THEM KNOW IF YOU'D LIKE TO HELP OUT.
UM, AND THIS IS A GREAT EVENT THAT MAKES A REAL DIFFERENCE IN PREVENTING WATER RELATED INCIDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND YOU CAN SIGN UP OR LEARN MORE ABOUT OUR WATER, YOU DOING CAMPAIGN ON OUR WEBSITE.
AND THEN, AND THEN AND THEN, UH, THIS MORNING, UH, THE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR HARRIS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS AND MYSELF, WE ATTENDED THE GOVERNOR'S PRAYER BREAKFAST IN DOWNTOWN PHOENIX.
AND, UH, WHAT A GREAT, GREAT WAY TO START YOUR MORNING.
90 MINUTES, PEOPLE FROM ALL SIDES OF THE AISLE, CLERGY, BUSINESS LEADERS, UH, JUST KIND OF LOCKING ARMS FOR ABOUT 90, 90 MINUTES TO, UH, TO PRAY FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND, AND TO PRAY FOR PEACE AND, AND FOR, UH, I GUESS COLLABORATION, RIGHT? IT JUST REALLY FELT COLLABORATIVE THIS MORNING.
SO THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING AND, AND, UH, THANKS FOR BEING A PART OF THAT.
MAYOR, I WANTED TO TELL TOO LATE, MARK, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR INVITING US AND, AND BEING THERE AND, AND ALL THE HOSPITALITY.
JUST REALLY THANK YOU FOR THINKING US.
APPRECIATE YOU COUNCILMAN ORLANDO.
MAYOR, I'M GONNA BEARISH YOU A LITTLE BIT.
I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR CONDUCTING A VERY GOOD MEETING TONIGHT.
YOU KNOW, YOU READ ABOUT A LOT OF COUNCILS OVER THE VALLEY AND THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES AND, UH, WE HAD A VERY CIVIL CROWD HERE AND YOU HANDLE IT WELL, AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE INDULGING ME IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILS, UH, TO BEND THE RULES A LITTLE BIT SO WE GET SOME MORE INFORMATION.
THANK YOU FOR ASKING FOR THAT.
THANK YOU MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER.
ALL RIGHT, CITY MANAGER, THANK
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YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JUST BRIEFLY WANTED TO WISH YOU ALL A HAPPY PASSOVER, WHICH STARTS ON MONDAY.HA MAYAK, HAPPY PASSOVER TO EVERYONE.
ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL, UH, GET READY FOR BUDGET DAY ON FRIDAY AND, UH, READ THOSE BIG BOOKS.
AND, UH, CONCLUDES OUR MEETING.